Yes I agree 100%. I really hope we keep seeing updates with this family on a regular basis. This is the third update I have seen with this family and I really enjoy seeing the progress of the young boy and girl. I hope to see MANY more updates throughout the upcoming years.
First, it started off as the Ice boy. Now I feel unfair for the other kid who left his school to work in the city leaving his grandma alone. Please make a video on that boy too. He needs support equally as well.
The contrast between the grandma who says she lives in the old house alone with the leaky roof and then the mum (who abandoned her family until they got famous) beaming with a smile and singing in the next scene makes me sick. The grandma is so selfless and it's amazing that she holds no resentment and still helps them out.
And it is the perfect encapsulation of Chinese family culture. Many parents selflessly sacrifice everything for their children and their children's children.
I literally just saw Justin Y for the 2nd time today in the 21st September music video, and this was recommended for me, so I pressed on it, scrolled to the comments, and so this...I was shocked, then realized it was a fake. lol
Grandma is sturbon, doesnt want to move, they offer her a house, she wants to stay there, the issue is that she is keeping the uncle stuck too... whats the need ?
I'm glad that the Dad decided that it wasn't worth working for pennies and started to herd his own animals and plant his own crops. Respect to him for keeping his family together.
This kid is such an inspiration. And to the family from the U.S. to help him and his family is really selfless of them. We need more stories like this.
@@robertnguyen2025 man what are you talking about lol. It's like hate is the one that drives you alive every morning. How abt u take a stroll thru the hannoi memorial of Vietnam 🇻🇳 war and breathe it all in will ya.
Saw this on another comment but at 6:59, the grandmother states that in the new house, old people like her aren’t able to find a job, so she stays in the old one.
@Ella Rosenberger No she did not refuse. She said she was not able to make a living. Pretty big difference. She should be there instead of the mom. I bet she gave the mom that black eye 😂 She should get some money from donations too. I mean she or the family or what not was living off of 95 cents a day so why would she have to work at her age.
In chinese culture, most old people tend to stay in the house where they grew up or lived most of their lives in. I know this because my dad is old himself and no matter what kind of luxury hotel or accommodation he is being offered he would just go back to our house. He feels more comfortable there and that's where his work is :)
She deserves it, but remember how she has like a potato field? She can’t bring that with her. And if she leaves it behind, there won’t be anyone tending the field. Besides, she won’t even make money at the settlement because there’s no work there for her.
@@Eldawn actually, if you give them donations that exactly what they will do. They split whatever you give to all the families in the same economic state.
The American Family is awesome. Not everyone has the patience to teach them and be in constant communication with them. Even her kids have golden hearts!
People are saying they wish they had a fundraiser for gran and the uncle, stop wishing and actually do something, all their social media’s (South China Morning Post) are in the description, contact them in any way possible through Twitter, Instagram or whatever and ask them to set it up. I don’t ask for likes but it would be appreciated to get this comment noticed. Email them if you can. A lot of messages on the same topic, hundreds maybe, has to get noticed. Even something like “Can you set up a fundraiser for the uncle and grandma in relationship to the new “Ice Boy” Film that you posted on your TH-cam?” Will do, it doesn’t have to be super long. Edit: People are saying that the Chinese government will just end up splitting the money. Well them getting a small amount of money is better than them getting nothing.
You have no idea what their situation was like... so you really have no right to judge her You can’t just assume she returned because they all of a sudden got money and she left just because they had no money. But even if that was the case I’m sure it’s more normal for people in poverty. For us, people living in houses with access to education and food, we can’t possibly imagine what things went through her head
@@leo-vr4yr so you are supporting a child abuser? the kid literally said SHE HIT HIM ,now that the husband has more money she is back and is nicer to them? the husband also mentioned that she left cause he didnt have enough money? did she think of her kids or her husbands when she left? no. But now that he has money, she is back ,thats enough explanation.
@@dylanabela4058 My bad, my info was backwards, there were 800 m poor people lifted from poverty, 200 is still in poverty. So what I should be saying is, 200 mil as you've said.
Are you serious?! The Granny is abandoned in that leaky roofed house after helping raise the children when their "Mother" left?! This is wrong. I feel so sorry for her :( What a slap in the face.
*the mother is toxic af...* - quarreling whenever she's mad - threatening to leave - bad communication - not even trying to improve and stop quarreling - justifying and finding excuses of her leaving the family instead of just apologizing for it - only coming back when cameras are on - she's also the only one wearing nice clothes - she said she missed her kids when she was away, so she came back. she didn't mention missing the father at all. she taking him for granted?? - the boy said she enjoys beating him (in a previous video) *the father deserves better tbh*
You do realise it's in women nature to be like that??? Women love their kids more than the dad. Whilst she was away she probably worked to make money and then came back. Women in their periods become emotional and have random mood swings. It's only natural for her to get upset and blame it on the father for being poor. Since it's been I assume over 5 years she has to put up with it. Put your self in their shoes then talk. Don't judge. Also she is being strict on the kids to give them a better future. If you've been up to date with the videos you can see that she is a young mom and she started off hitting then trying to control her rage, the kids even said it.
@@tayyibali5052 don't you dare generalize that women are like that, it's insulting. Everything you mentioned is understandable, but it doesn't make it a valid reason to justify her ways. It's not "natural" to blame the father, what did he do wrong?? He's working hard af to support his family. Why doesn't the father ever blame her?? She simply lacks what we could call emotional maturity. People are not perfect, but we must learn to control our emotions and be willing to improve. I did not see her willing to improve, maybe i missed something. I simply disagree with the behaviour and values she has shown us till now
@@Alpa_Chino I don't know if this is an Asian thing or just a coincidence. My grandfather was already 90+ years old. He has 11 childrens and each of them is pretty successful, yet my grandfather wouldn't take a penny out of his children. He still wake up 5 am, go to the farm, run his shop, take care of the pigs, all by himself
Since the family is trying to help get internet and a computer for them. Then all they would need is a camera or a smartphone to do videos. Nowadays that’s all it takes. The kids are smart and I know they will be able to catch on quickly. As we all would probably pitch in to show them some pointers. Now how do we get in contact with the family?
If that happen, they can start by creating Douyin (TikTok) or Kuaishou account to create daily vlog of their life. Those apps also able to produce Yuan.
Looks like the kids resemble their father and grandmother--- a silent but strong resolve, pensive, hard workers. I hope they continue to learn to develop their family's happiness and progress.
Their relationship wasn’t like that till the wife broke it herself. The wife left the kids and the father to fend for themselves because the dad was too poor. She came back only when she saw cameras were on her kids. She came back for something. But it wasn’t her husband and it wasn’t her kids.
They weren't left out. The grandmother wanted to live in the old house because that's where she can work. The new house though better has no jobs for those who arent educated and are older. Thats why she went back. They wven offered for her to stay with them and she chose not to. The uncle wanted to help make more money so he chose to go to the city and work. But they all are still living in poverty. They just have been able to get get some livestock now.
@@itsumiyeeiiih3924 so basically building a new house or even redoing the old one would be even more expensive. And still she would need to work off the old home. Thats why the uncle moved to the city to work now because they owe so much money on the current old house and land. Its more about their personality type and pride in self sustainability. She wants to be a provider and doesnt want to live off of what was given to her sons family. I just hope they can convince her to live with them.
The father seems to be a hard worker who is interested in taking advantage of the opportunity to work on the home/farm. The mom seems like she had kids and got married WAY too young and this will likely impact her behavior for the rest of her life unless she gets some kind of therapy/support.
Yes, it may very well be true that the parents got married very young. As in many Asian cultures today, people in more rural regions still follow custom, and get married starting at 14 years of age or even younger.
There has to be some understanding for the mother. She is also dealing with unresolved trauma from her life. Hurt people hurt people and she never had the opportunity to resolve what is probably generational trauma. It’s easy to judge someone far away- but she undoubtedly lived a life so far basically none of us can truly relate with. Nothing can negate the bad that she is doing or has done but there has to be some understanding of the chain of events that brought about her actions.
@@setaripantheon8801 she is just having trouble coping with her family living in poverty, she knows there is a better life out there, but they can't obtain it so she gets frustrated and lashes out at the husband because society has always made it "the husband's fault" even though it's none of theirs. It's just the area they're stuck in. They all just need help, not judgment.
I’m chinese, the grandma wasn’t really trying to avoid her, she was trying to be polite. Chinese people are aggressively polite a lot of times. They quarrel and bargain so they won’t be a burden on other people
^^ yup, it's considered polite to offer and refuse lol. It's like two families fighting to pay a bill at a restaurant! One family offers, other says no and tries to shove their credit card over to the waitress 😂
That mother acting like the kids are “Learning to be more wise” as if they are catching up to her when her kids are the ones who have surpassed her level of wisdom. Lady, if you threaten to leave just leave you ungrateful
@@sangaygembo5247 honestly, that could be a possibility. She doesn't care about anyone but herself and it is sad to see everyone else in the family caring about her and wanting her to be there when she literally threatens them with her leaving whenever she does not get her way.
@@lilybell8104 what her children and husband beg her to stay, and she always curses at them and threatens to leave when she doesnt get her way. Her children are much more mature than her
I don't get the vibe that she cuddles or even smiles at her children? I think she's heavily depressed - illiteracy and poverty can do that to anyone - but she needs to, like the daughter said, communicate in a nicer way. What wonderful children the father has raised.
I'm pretty sure those kids are part of the village he grew up in and live in similar circumstances as he once did. I doubt they were laughing to be mean, it was probably just a common occurence and as kids they were laughing along with him
I am so happy to see he and his family doing much better. And a big thanks to this beautiful american family showing so much love and respect to the world ❤️❤️ Love changes everything always ❤️❤️
@@王琦琪-e7q such a negative comment. The internet has a way to move someone emotionally and reach out digitally to touch a life halfway across the world. It's beautiful that SCMP shares the update.
@R Lumière Éclairante there's no excuse for beating your children. Plus, she only showed up out of nowhere, years after she ABANDONED them, when his story became famous and people were sending his family money because they felt bad. She simply wanted to get in on some of that. Don't be so naive. I don't want that woman to hurt them any further.
R Lumière Éclairante sound like you same like ice boy mum that why you defend her mum , she not loving her family anymore that why she leave her family , if she love she not gonna leave and work so hard at town and give money to family not leaving her family sorry bad english
Thanks for the update! Hats off to the Miller family for their support financially but also in taking the time to get to know the kids and have a relationship with them! Such a beautiful act of kindness and generosity
There's alot of sadness looking at their dad's eyes and face. The mom however, looks like she actually yearns for some kind of freedom. Well then again. Who am I to judge not knowing the full story of their lives. Pity the dad, grandma and uncle tbh. Hopefully they will live on and fight strong. Not sure how old is these kids parents, but they look a tad young, and I feel like they too deserve some kind of basic education, including their uncle.
My fiancee grew up in rural Shaanxi and had some very similar experiences as a kid, poverty was a big problem, especially at that time. She would go back and forth to school once a week, because it was at least an hour a way, all while carrying all her food and rice for the week which were prepared for her by her aunt as her parents were in the cities working in factories and construction. I had the opportunity to spend time with her family in her home town this Chinese New year, and I've never met such honest, hardworking, lovely people. China has grown so much since she was a kid, but there will always be poverty. I hope in the future I might help kids in the Chinese countryside with their educations, and help them pursue opportunities that will improve their families lives.
@@CountHelezoostIV would u want still want a mother who leaves for 6 months, comes back when things gets financially better and still argues when things are not going ur way and threatens to leave the family? she def needs help
Dont be so naive. That lady is not the one dealing with them everyday. Everyone has flaws, but its easier to see those flaws when you actually live with each other. Mom's always say things they dont mean, but the fact is shes the one who carried them for 9 months and raised them even in dire situation, so she deserves respect just like any mother..
@@pj7371 raised them in that situation just to leave them for half and year and return with nothing but selfishness. How convenient of her to leave when she's frustrated then return when she finds out there is funds being provided.
@@MZ-ez1nu thats because you have no idea what living in the third world is like. Most people have to leave their family to find work in bigger cities. Its also easy to have a healthy mind when all your basic necessities are met.
I think people in the comments are being too harsh on her. Of course, I don’t know her, but there seem to be genuine things she’s saying, and I think she just has issues we can’t see. She might be bad like people are saying, or she might be normal and be dealing with problems. I just dislike the white and black perceptions I’m seeing in the comments.
i do the same every day for work, 1 hour one way every day, wether its 110f outside, or a full on blizzard at 0f ... lol, its a lot more common than you think
The children seem to be more mature than their parents. I like how the daughter is very honest about her mother. I’m not sure if the mother will stay with her children because doesn’t seem to be happy with her husband even though financially things are better. I hope the children will be taken care of if she does leave again. 🙏
@@neepers To get more access to better education outside of physical school, communicate with others and interact/make friends, Possibly find better schools/move to better places...you name it.
@@LvngBrd I remember when I was young, 'access' to education was the mantra for world change. Yet, now basically everyone has access and nothing happened. Access doesn't change motivation, that's why you or I don't have our PhD in any topic and we don't spend our free time watching MIT's, or other universities freely accessible courses. It's a nice gesture of course. But to do all those things, a nice cell phone with a monthly service would be more useful for making friends. The computer will be restricted by internet access, and who will provide that? Then to reach the outside world, who will install and provide the VPN? The western world seems to think the best way to help this family is to provide a computer, it's very 'western' thinking, but it's limited thinking.
@@neepers english is the most global of languages and therefore vital to learn for anyone in a country where it isn't the native language. there's always a demand for workers who speak it well, so it'll set the kids up for better job opportunities in life.
I am just so happy the Ice boy family get helps. A little kid who walked one hour in the ice mountain just for education. I really have respect for him.
It’s probably that she doesn’t want to take more from her son’s family than about the mom. It’s common etiquette in China to refuse offers like this from family.
That woman needs to leave. She is the toxic one in the whole family that probably controls the husband and the kids. She cares for herself only. Also probably the reason the grandparents don't live with them. Just because the kids are biological to the mom doesn't mean they have to suffer through her, its always better to get away from toxicity.
These kids are so great! Very intelligent and caring. I love them! I wish the best for this family and hope that the mother and father can get along and communicate better moving forward .
The American family seems so nice. I remember I felt the same way when watching the initial videos. I'm glad they are helping support his education. It's exciting he is getting a computer!
@@Lime23415 He might use it for game only. When I was at his age, I told my father I needed a computer to study. But actually I wanted to play games. :D
"I thought Americans didn't care about others" I don't blame him. Look at the USA now. Edit: Whoa guys, looks like we have Republicans *and* Democrats here. No need to fight, you know you're different. Just lay off and talk about your political views later.
He said I never thought a American would video chat with someone from China. And with downs come ups we can't sacrifice this state it's still the place wear men fought for where we were and we will do the same now. America is a free place while others have a socialist country or a king and queen we shall keep America free.
And she also left to work in the city in order to make money. She didn’t just sit around expecting the dad to support her or the kids or become famous.
@@kramraliuga5589 Funny how she didn't send any of that money to her family, or the first episode of this series would've been a bit different ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So awesome that this American woman cares for this family. When I saw this video, a few years back, I was moved as well. I show this video to my third grade students, who complain about having to do classwork. They definitely learn to be grateful after watching it.
What happened to the mom's face? It looks like she got hit. Also the daughter is such a smart and kind cookie. Edit: harsh weather and spending a lot of time outside. Thanks to folks who answered my question!
The translation was misleading; the boy meant to say “she likes to hit people”, which is a generally common Chinese phrase that describes short tempered/bullish people (not that she outright beats her children…)
I really feel bad for the uncle and grandma , especially the uncle , I mean they got a new house , enough food to eat , and the uncle , he can’t even do all the grades he has to drop out to make money doesn’t get that much food to eat . If I would be in that place I would take both of them with me . 💔😭
Mom: "The kids are starting to better understand things." The kids have understood since day one how immature the mom and dad were being. Especially the mom and telling her to get her act together. Just watch the previous two videos on this family.
For everyone who wants to judge the mom as a gold digger- you have to realize their situation is not that simple. The parents had relationship problems too. Also, it’s absolutely none of OUR places to judge THEM. I mean they lived in poverty and used to (or still do) struggled possibly week to week getting food. We live in nice houses with easy access to education and don’t have to worry about our basic needs. I personally don’t believe we, sitting in a place of extreme privilege, can say anything about how bad of a person she is.
Holo Scope comparatively, anyone who has a roof over their heads, plumbing, electricity, a phone, access to education, access to affordable transportation, not having to worry about war or violence, are already much more privileged than the majority of the population on earth. I’m not saying you have a fantastic house. But I AM assuming that by having internet and access to TH-cam you’re at least better off than the ones living in poverty in these videos I’m not super poor or super rich. Maybe I’m ‘better off’ than you, so I can’t say anything for your situation. But I personally recognize my own privilege. I also know the majority of people who read my comment are pretty privileged (even if you might not be)
I really appreciate the guy who’s running this project going back to check on them every year - major respects
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Yes I agree 100%. I really hope we keep seeing updates with this family on a regular basis. This is the third update I have seen with this family and I really enjoy seeing the progress of the young boy and girl. I hope to see MANY more updates throughout the upcoming years.
100%
Totally
5:22 *chinese propaganda at work*
First, it started off as the Ice boy. Now I feel unfair for the other kid who left his school to work in the city leaving his grandma alone. Please make a video on that boy too. He needs support equally as well.
I agree
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@@TedEhioghae Whatever helps u sleep at night
Why is he called the ice boy?
@A box I couldn't understand it!
The contrast between the grandma who says she lives in the old house alone with the leaky roof and then the mum (who abandoned her family until they got famous) beaming with a smile and singing in the next scene makes me sick. The grandma is so selfless and it's amazing that she holds no resentment and still helps them out.
Agree
The story of the prodigal son. Forgive and love, do not begrudge.
It drives me crazy how she's the only one wearing brand new clothes
#sotrue
And it is the perfect encapsulation of Chinese family culture. Many parents selflessly sacrifice everything for their children and their children's children.
I feel so bad for his grandma and uncle, they were the only ones to help him through tough times.
it was the moms decision
Hey fake Justin Y
@@motivationalmoments5134 you
Justin Y u don’t have the 500k subs as the real Justin y had
I literally just saw Justin Y for the 2nd time today in the 21st September music video, and this was recommended for me, so I pressed on it, scrolled to the comments, and so this...I was shocked, then realized it was a fake. lol
I think the grandmom and the uncle of the child also deserves a part of donation bcs they are also suffering from poverty .
Grandma is sturbon, doesnt want to move, they offer her a house, she wants to stay there, the issue is that she is keeping the uncle stuck too... whats the need ?
@@jjba3571 wait really?? How do you know that.
@@user-hf7bb8uy4j it's literally in the video, she doesn't want to move because in the new place she would be too old to find a job.
@@Improperman oh I think I missed it. Anyways thanks.
Yeah she said can’t make a living how she gonna eat and survive there ? Make it make sense bruh
I'm glad that the Dad decided that it wasn't worth working for pennies and started to herd his own animals and plant his own crops. Respect to him for keeping his family together.
I would like but it’s 699
@@lophop9444 why do you even exist bruh
goats foot hurt poor goat,sad
No steroids! Hope he gets more money for them
sounded risky
The souls of those two kids are special. The daughter seems wise beyond her years and the boy has the spirit to keep moving forward like a champ.
Perfect duo.
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@@ZanDuz ok!
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This kid is such an inspiration. And to the family from the U.S. to help him and his family is really selfless of them. We need more stories like this.
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Why.dont they have their own people they are so loving to one another to help them out? Or will their own people rob them also of leftover?
anh tran what is that link?
@@robertnguyen2025 To whom are you referring?
@@robertnguyen2025 man what are you talking about lol. It's like hate is the one that drives you alive every morning. How abt u take a stroll thru the hannoi memorial of Vietnam 🇻🇳 war and breathe it all in will ya.
Anyone else noticed how the girl is very smart and extremely mature for her age? Wow. Mad respect!
Living in conditions like this, you have no other options but to work hard and be mature.
That's because she is not American. All non American children are this mature.
@@ivandinsmore6217 I don't know
The kids are more mature than their parent..
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Seems like the parents have been bitter with each other for a long time now. They should really listen to their kids advice and become better.
Usually that maturity comes from trauma.
please keep this story up yearly, trust me, everyone here wants to know how ic boy is coping :)
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Very true you can't believe where I am and still waiting for this story all the way from Ghana
more people should like this so the Post can see!
Yeah not many channels do that even though they're in the us , which makes communication with these people much easier as it's mostly urban country
Brave little kids.
Why the grandma not in that house she deseves it more than the mother who left children
Saw this on another comment but at 6:59, the grandmother states that in the new house, old people like her aren’t able to find a job, so she stays in the old one.
@Ella Rosenberger No she did not refuse. She said she was not able to make a living. Pretty big difference. She should be there instead of the mom. I bet she gave the mom that black eye 😂 She should get some money from donations too. I mean she or the family or what not was living off of 95 cents a day so why would she have to work at her age.
In chinese culture, most old people tend to stay in the house where they grew up or lived most of their lives in. I know this because my dad is old himself and no matter what kind of luxury hotel or accommodation he is being offered he would just go back to our house. He feels more comfortable there and that's where his work is :)
She deserves it, but remember how she has like a potato field? She can’t bring that with her. And if she leaves it behind, there won’t be anyone tending the field. Besides, she won’t even make money at the settlement because there’s no work there for her.
Ikr. All those other people get phones and things like that. Maybe she should get someone to fix up the house.
I love how the mom acts so happy and loving on camera but then they cue to the family describing her differently.
She is a horrible human...
Maybe she just wanna be famous also
Many sick parents in the world😏🤷♀️🤦♀️
The kids seem wise for their age
I wish there was a fundraiser that goes straight to the uncle and grandma.
Yes!
The uncle needs a better life.
Dropping out of school to help his mother, dude seems like a nice guy.
2nd/3rd that!
True I would totally donate
@Greg McFarland Hey, it's not like we can help everyone..
@@Eldawn actually, if you give them donations that exactly what they will do. They split whatever you give to all the families in the same economic state.
The American Family is awesome. Not everyone has the patience to teach them and be in constant communication with them. Even her kids have golden hearts!
Her daughter is very pretty as well ❤
Mashallah tbark Allah alhamudillah inshallah better astgfrallah
@Sean Yang haha
Absolutely! They are all so patient and committed to helping this family. This mom has raised her kids well.
People are saying they wish they had a fundraiser for gran and the uncle, stop wishing and actually do something, all their social media’s (South China Morning Post) are in the description, contact them in any way possible through Twitter, Instagram or whatever and ask them to set it up. I don’t ask for likes but it would be appreciated to get this comment noticed. Email them if you can. A lot of messages on the same topic, hundreds maybe, has to get noticed.
Even something like “Can you set up a fundraiser for the uncle and grandma in relationship to the new “Ice Boy” Film that you posted on your TH-cam?” Will do, it doesn’t have to be super long.
Edit: People are saying that the Chinese government will just end up splitting the money. Well them getting a small amount of money is better than them getting nothing.
Here's a like. Thank you for pointing this out to me ☺️
Here's a thumb and I appreciate your advice. In fact, I'm going to use it right now! 👍
And here you are writing a comment instead of doing that.
Darren they’re pointing it out
Facts
the mom left the kid when the dad was broke,she beat her children too and now that he has money,she is back? what a gold digger bro
True she is the biggest gold digger recorded on camera
You have no idea what their situation was like... so you really have no right to judge her
You can’t just assume she returned because they all of a sudden got money and she left just because they had no money. But even if that was the case I’m sure it’s more normal for people in poverty. For us, people living in houses with access to education and food, we can’t possibly imagine what things went through her head
@@leo-vr4yr so you are supporting a child abuser? the kid literally said SHE HIT HIM ,now that the husband has more money she is back and is nicer to them? the husband also mentioned that she left cause he didnt have enough money? did she think of her kids or her husbands when she left? no. But now that he has money, she is back ,thats enough explanation.
@@leo-vr4yr watch the last episode btw
Hi
What about the young uncle? He deserves a better life too.
Wasn’t she the mom that left the dad to raise the kids by himself? And came back out of nowhere when cameras showed up?
there was another episode where the mom wanted to come back because she missed them too much
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@@Xandropemoff ? wdym "idk"
keewa yu idk I’ve never heard of this show
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Please also save the grandma :( My heart aches for the grandma
Grandma was already given a new house in a resettlement area but choose not to move.
Can you also include all the poor people in China? Like 800 million of them.
@@Kopie0830 800 million have been lifted out of poverty in China since 1990. 90 million now live in poverty in China.
@@dylanabela4058 My bad, my info was backwards, there were 800 m poor people lifted from poverty, 200 is still in poverty. So what I should be saying is, 200 mil as you've said.
Are you serious?! The Granny is abandoned in that leaky roofed house after helping raise the children when their "Mother" left?! This is wrong. I feel so sorry for her :( What a slap in the face.
She said there would be no work for a woman her age at the new place. I was under the impression she’s the one that wanted to stay.
@Jacky Drywater enough how? Come Winter and they May starve again.
@Jacky Drywater what can you do about it, she didnt want to move in. The parents had to think about their childrens well being.
@Jacky Drywater bro she didn’t want to go. What are you gonna do, drag her out by her hair screaming? Get some reading comprehension
@@dembi2770 woah woah woah did y’all watch the previous video? The grandma wanted to come but the wife. didn’t want her to live there.
Sincerely hope that everything is going to be better and better in the future for these kids.
Those two kids are way smarter than an average child. They both understand what is going on with the family and they are better at understanding it.
yes true but thats sad in a way. kids shouldnt have to grow up that fast.
*the mother is toxic af...*
- quarreling whenever she's mad
- threatening to leave
- bad communication
- not even trying to improve and stop quarreling
- justifying and finding excuses of her leaving the family instead of just apologizing for it
- only coming back when cameras are on
- she's also the only one wearing nice clothes
- she said she missed her kids when she was away, so she came back. she didn't mention missing the father at all. she taking him for granted??
- the boy said she enjoys beating him (in a previous video)
*the father deserves better tbh*
How full of yourself you should be to judge people like that!
You do realise it's in women nature to be like that??? Women love their kids more than the dad. Whilst she was away she probably worked to make money and then came back. Women in their periods become emotional and have random mood swings. It's only natural for her to get upset and blame it on the father for being poor. Since it's been I assume over 5 years she has to put up with it. Put your self in their shoes then talk. Don't judge. Also she is being strict on the kids to give them a better future. If you've been up to date with the videos you can see that she is a young mom and she started off hitting then trying to control her rage, the kids even said it.
@@HelloKitty-kb7ji I'm literally just stating facts straight from the video?? I could give you the timestamps if you want 🙄
@@tayyibali5052 don't you dare generalize that women are like that, it's insulting. Everything you mentioned is understandable, but it doesn't make it a valid reason to justify her ways. It's not "natural" to blame the father, what did he do wrong?? He's working hard af to support his family. Why doesn't the father ever blame her?? She simply lacks what we could call emotional maturity.
People are not perfect, but we must learn to control our emotions and be willing to improve. I did not see her willing to improve, maybe i missed something. I simply disagree with the behaviour and values she has shown us till now
@@tayyibali5052 Bruh my GF gets mood swings but not like this. I mean my GF even told that this mother is toxic.
I hope he gets enough education so he become successful in life and becomes rich so that he can support his family
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Not his mother though(like hopefully he doesn’t really help his mother because she just came back once there was donations)
I don't think he will be a rich person
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Yeah
To everyone watching this. Just be grateful for what you have.
This comment deserves more likes.
@@tashanaebernard3521nope. Cause in this situation it's the wrong thing to say.
I feel bad for the grandmother. Oldest and alone. Still lives poorly in the old house.😞
It brokes our hearts :(((
She said she has a modern house but doesn't want to relocate because there are no jobs there.
@@kendimm1 sorry but for people old like her , their sons should look after her. She shouldnt be thinking about work in her age.
@@Alpa_Chino I don't know if this is an Asian thing or just a coincidence. My grandfather was already 90+ years old. He has 11 childrens and each of them is pretty successful, yet my grandfather wouldn't take a penny out of his children. He still wake up 5 am, go to the farm, run his shop, take care of the pigs, all by himself
@@janson2911 Same as my grandpa he still works in his own independent gas station(which grew pretty big in the past 5 years)
This story needs to be a TH-cam channel. Then they can make their own money just by people watching. We will be contributing in that way.
They can’t start their own channel in China, perhaps the California family can help.
Agreed. Just like that one famous Chinese country girl
they have social media now so yay!
Since the family is trying to help get internet and a computer for them. Then all they would need is a camera or a smartphone to do videos. Nowadays that’s all it takes. The kids are smart and I know they will be able to catch on quickly. As we all would probably pitch in to show them some pointers.
Now how do we get in contact with the family?
If that happen, they can start by creating Douyin (TikTok) or Kuaishou account to create daily vlog of their life.
Those apps also able to produce Yuan.
He's not Ice Boy anymore, he's Chill Teen now.
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@@marteeolivera7617 what?
@@marteeolivera7617 are you being a bot?
No he is defrosted
And after the Chill Teen phase, he's gonna become *Frost Man*
the kid couldn't hold back his excitement when he heard he was getting a computer hahaha that was wholesome
Looks like the kids resemble their father and grandmother--- a silent but strong resolve, pensive, hard workers. I hope they continue to learn to develop their family's happiness and progress.
The kids seem to have more on the ball than the mother and father!!
China Ice Boy is so hardworking!
Ray Mak bro ive commented this on at least three other vids but YOURE EVERYWHERE
Ray Mak the question is do you respond?
I bet this guy is commenting on every video so people checks out his channel. Plus probally a bot
bro why are you everywhere
hardworking boy but i needd figure howhe name is iced
When the children are the ones fixing their parents broken relationship I-
Their relationship wasn’t like that till the wife broke it herself. The wife left the kids and the father to fend for themselves because the dad was too poor. She came back only when she saw cameras were on her kids. She came back for something. But it wasn’t her husband and it wasn’t her kids.
@@tiffanyribbons for attention and to live like a princess... She is a horrible person and should never have become a mother!
@@tiffanyribbons she left to work to provide.she sent her kids small cash and and clothes at times.
Really? He IS too poor. Why can’t she leave? Starve to death with everyone?
@@momoxiaoshizi You're weak.
I just hope they'll remember their grandmother who took care of them too.
Can someone please make a gofundme for the grandma and the son
Like they took care of them and now they are left out..
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They weren't left out. The grandmother wanted to live in the old house because that's where she can work. The new house though better has no jobs for those who arent educated and are older. Thats why she went back. They wven offered for her to stay with them and she chose not to. The uncle wanted to help make more money so he chose to go to the city and work. But they all are still living in poverty. They just have been able to get get some livestock now.
@@Ch-ch-ch-chia I understand but maybe do a house beside it or like rebuild it or use the money for them to get clothes as stuff.
@@itsumiyeeiiih3924 it's not as simple as that unfortunately
@@itsumiyeeiiih3924 so basically building a new house or even redoing the old one would be even more expensive. And still she would need to work off the old home. Thats why the uncle moved to the city to work now because they owe so much money on the current old house and land. Its more about their personality type and pride in self sustainability. She wants to be a provider and doesnt want to live off of what was given to her sons family. I just hope they can convince her to live with them.
The father seems to be a hard worker who is interested in taking advantage of the opportunity to work on the home/farm. The mom seems like she had kids and got married WAY too young and this will likely impact her behavior for the rest of her life unless she gets some kind of therapy/support.
@R Lumière Éclairante NO. Stop it please. The dad did all what he could to help his family 😡
Yes, it may very well be true that the parents got married very young. As in many Asian cultures today, people in more rural regions still follow custom, and get married starting at 14 years of age or even younger.
No, she is just a horrible exuse for a human being....
There has to be some understanding for the mother. She is also dealing with unresolved trauma from her life. Hurt people hurt people and she never had the opportunity to resolve what is probably generational trauma. It’s easy to judge someone far away- but she undoubtedly lived a life so far basically none of us can truly relate with. Nothing can negate the bad that she is doing or has done but there has to be some understanding of the chain of events that brought about her actions.
@@setaripantheon8801 she is just having trouble coping with her family living in poverty, she knows there is a better life out there, but they can't obtain it so she gets frustrated and lashes out at the husband because society has always made it "the husband's fault" even though it's none of theirs. It's just the area they're stuck in. They all just need help, not judgment.
Bless Carolyn’s family. People like them make the world a better place to live.
You can tell the grandma doesn't like the mom Lol
no one does. the mom is an evil gold digger
That 'no' from the mother in law when the mother asked her to stay and eat was so abrupt and made it clear that she doesn't like her.
I’m chinese, the grandma wasn’t really trying to avoid her, she was trying to be polite. Chinese people are aggressively polite a lot of times. They quarrel and bargain so they won’t be a burden on other people
^^ yup, it's considered polite to offer and refuse lol. It's like two families fighting to pay a bill at a restaurant! One family offers, other says no and tries to shove their credit card over to the waitress 😂
Yeah I bet she only asked her to stay for dinner because the cameras were rolling
That mother acting like the kids are “Learning to be more wise” as if they are catching up to her when her kids are the ones who have surpassed her level of wisdom. Lady, if you threaten to leave just leave you ungrateful
rocky lala Yeah. The woman doesn’t even know how to write.
I have a feeling the grandmother and uncle arent with them because of her.
@@sangaygembo5247 honestly, that could be a possibility. She doesn't care about anyone but herself and it is sad to see everyone else in the family caring about her and wanting her to be there when she literally threatens them with her leaving whenever she does not get her way.
We don't know the circumstances.
@@lilybell8104 what her children and husband beg her to stay, and she always curses at them and threatens to leave when she doesnt get her way. Her children are much more mature than her
I can tell the daughter is smart and level headed, I hope she is able to go into the city to achieve great things in the future.
One day ice boy will become ice man and save us from the x-men sentinels.
@中国共产党人吃狗屎 haha
Ok?
@中国共产党人吃狗屎 lol ya
Yes 👍
@中国共产党人吃狗屎 😁😁😁😀
The sister is a talent. She is really a great person. These two kids are angels.
We have to make the uncle's life better also.
He's still so young and have a lot of probability
I agree!
I'm so happy life has gotten better for them I wish the grandmother's life would improve too she deserves it
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I don't get the vibe that she cuddles or even smiles at her children? I think she's heavily depressed - illiteracy and poverty can do that to anyone - but she needs to, like the daughter said, communicate in a nicer way. What wonderful children the father has raised.
The grandmother raised.
Seeing the picture that the little boy’s hair is covered in ice and in the background his classmates are laughing hurts.......
I'm pretty sure those kids are part of the village he grew up in and live in similar circumstances as he once did. I doubt they were laughing to be mean, it was probably just a common occurence and as kids they were laughing along with him
They laugh because they are light hearted and because they are in no better situation
Kids are cruel
It's nervous laughs, I think!
@@KingKongStrong But all of once were once kids.
I am so happy to see he and his family doing much better. And a big thanks to this beautiful american family showing so much love and respect to the world ❤️❤️ Love changes everything always ❤️❤️
假的，不要相信 我刚刚看了他们还是在当地不错
Mashallah tbark Allah alhamudillah inshallah better astgfrallah
I really thought those were chinese , just living in america
@@王琦琪-e7q such a negative comment. The internet has a way to move someone emotionally and reach out digitally to touch a life halfway across the world. It's beautiful that SCMP shares the update.
Remember that the “mother” left them in a freezing shack and liked to beat her son. Smh. 😒
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@R Lumière Éclairante Yeah!!!!!!! Preach man!
@R Lumière Éclairante there's no excuse for beating your children. Plus, she only showed up out of nowhere, years after she ABANDONED them, when his story became famous and people were sending his family money because they felt bad. She simply wanted to get in on some of that. Don't be so naive.
I don't want that woman to hurt them any further.
R Lumière Éclairante sound like you same like ice boy mum that why you defend her mum , she not loving her family anymore that why she leave her family , if she love she not gonna leave and work so hard at town and give money to family not leaving her family sorry bad english
@Aisha Littleton How do you know? The little boy said that she beated him. He dont looks like a liar
Thanks for the update! Hats off to the Miller family for their support financially but also in taking the time to get to know the kids and have a relationship with them! Such a beautiful act of kindness and generosity
There's alot of sadness looking at their dad's eyes and face. The mom however, looks like she actually yearns for some kind of freedom. Well then again. Who am I to judge not knowing the full story of their lives. Pity the dad, grandma and uncle tbh. Hopefully they will live on and fight strong. Not sure how old is these kids parents, but they look a tad young, and I feel like they too deserve some kind of basic education, including their uncle.
Mother wants money for her hubby in city
I agree when the mom started singing it just seemed like her eyes asked for freedom even the way she spoke during that section
The father should be 31.
Ha! The granny knows that the mother is now pretending... When at first the mother ask her to eat before she left, she almost immediately said no
My fiancee grew up in rural Shaanxi and had some very similar experiences as a kid, poverty was a big problem, especially at that time. She would go back and forth to school once a week, because it was at least an hour a way, all while carrying all her food and rice for the week which were prepared for her by her aunt as her parents were in the cities working in factories and construction. I had the opportunity to spend time with her family in her home town this Chinese New year, and I've never met such honest, hardworking, lovely people. China has grown so much since she was a kid, but there will always be poverty. I hope in the future I might help kids in the Chinese countryside with their educations, and help them pursue opportunities that will improve their families lives.
At least the mother is doing work. She might came back after they got money but she still works with the family.
And still fights with them. She needs some help
J Chanel having mother is better than not having one tho
@@CountHelezoostIV would u want still want a mother who leaves for 6 months, comes back when things gets financially better and still argues when things are not going ur way and threatens to leave the family? she def needs help
@@CountHelezoostIV I know that. But is she behaving like one? She needs to release her stress on something else not her family.
Serena millions of kid’s parents are like that (mine are). it’s pretty normal in china, discipline is very important to them .
Dad is doing amazingly well raising a family and keeping his cool given the circumstances. I couldn't imagine having that kind of responsibility
She's more of a mom to them than their actual mom
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Dont be so naive. That lady is not the one dealing with them everyday. Everyone has flaws, but its easier to see those flaws when you actually live with each other. Mom's always say things they dont mean, but the fact is shes the one who carried them for 9 months and raised them even in dire situation, so she deserves respect just like any mother..
it was ccp doctrnation.
@@pj7371 raised them in that situation just to leave them for half and year and return with nothing but selfishness. How convenient of her to leave when she's frustrated then return when she finds out there is funds being provided.
@@MZ-ez1nu thats because you have no idea what living in the third world is like. Most people have to leave their family to find work in bigger cities. Its also easy to have a healthy mind when all your basic necessities are met.
Wife when the Family is Poor: Adiós
*Family gets funded*
Wife: Hola
Wife: nihao
Wife: hey!! Hao jiu bu jian🤪👋🏻🤑🤡
Wife: Bonjour
she left for the city to work for money I believe.
@@davidliu2243 Funny how she didn't send any of that money to her family, or the first episode of this series might've been a bit different ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
this boy will be a star someday, I can see it in eyes and the way he carries himself.
Thanks to this Miller family in California for their encouragement and financial support. Greetings from Texas.
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It sounds like his mom might have depression, I hope they can get help for that and the family can live happily.
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Its not depression, its poverty.
Or she’s just a bad person for leaving her family when things got bad
I think people in the comments are being too harsh on her. Of course, I don’t know her, but there seem to be genuine things she’s saying, and I think she just has issues we can’t see. She might be bad like people are saying, or she might be normal and be dealing with problems. I just dislike the white and black perceptions I’m seeing in the comments.
That girl seemed so happy when they called the smile on her face when that phone was ringing
Now he wouldn’t be exaggerating when he tells his kids about how he used to go to school.
The classic Asian Parents walk to school: I WALK OVER THE MOUNTAIN AND ALL THE WAY TO AMERICA JUST TO GO TI SCHIIL
@Mr. Anonymous Yes, back in the day, my mum had to dodge bullets on a daily basis on her 2hrs walk to school.
😂😂😂
i do the same every day for work, 1 hour one way every day, wether its 110f outside, or a full on blizzard at 0f ... lol, its a lot more common than you think
@@XiaoYueMao your are one hardworking lad
I hope his grandma also gets some help to improve her lifestyle ❤️
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@@anhtran-ti9ve stop🙂
@@parkjihoon_0314 army 🥺💞💞
Sahar Hayat can you not be like that on a video like this. Istg yall armies are getting annoying with saying this everywhere
My heart breaks for the grandma's poor living conditions and that blank stare after she says its a mess =/
The children seem to be more mature than their parents. I like how the daughter is very honest about her mother. I’m not sure if the mother will stay with her children because doesn’t seem to be happy with her husband even though financially things are better. I hope the children will be taken care of if she does leave again. 🙏
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Can’t wait to check next year and see this kid learning on the American family’s promised computer
I'm curious what their goal is. To teach English? If so, for what purpose?
@@neepers To get more access to better education outside of physical school, communicate with others and interact/make friends, Possibly find better schools/move to better places...you name it.
@@LvngBrd I remember when I was young, 'access' to education was the mantra for world change. Yet, now basically everyone has access and nothing happened. Access doesn't change motivation, that's why you or I don't have our PhD in any topic and we don't spend our free time watching MIT's, or other universities freely accessible courses.
It's a nice gesture of course. But to do all those things, a nice cell phone with a monthly service would be more useful for making friends.
The computer will be restricted by internet access, and who will provide that? Then to reach the outside world, who will install and provide the VPN?
The western world seems to think the best way to help this family is to provide a computer, it's very 'western' thinking, but it's limited thinking.
@@neepers english is the most global of languages and therefore vital to learn for anyone in a country where it isn't the native language. there's always a demand for workers who speak it well, so it'll set the kids up for better job opportunities in life.
@@neepers maybe move to America when they are old enough idk
I am just so happy the Ice boy family get helps. A little kid who walked one hour in the ice mountain just for education. I really have respect for him.
The mother may have made mistakes but she seems just like a kid herself.
I fell sory for the dad
Like you said... like a kid, not like a mother
So she shouldn’t be a mother
Yeah, sometimes it's hard to believe that parents are humans after all and make just as many mistakes as we do.
David Liu yeah i guess leaving a poor family and stop supporting a childs education is ok to do as a parent
it was so weird to see how they introduce themselves to the kids!
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definitely that savior complex in them :/
Yeah...weird indeed
@@MugiwaraCarat YES! finally someone said it. thank u.
@@MugiwaraCarat does it matter why they did it if they actually manage to help the kids through school?
Mom: please stay for dinner
Grandma: no
Bruh nobody likes the Mom! no body!
Exactly
Don’t judge something you don’t know.
weird.. according to the subtitles the mom said, "please eat dinner and go home"
2:33
It’s probably that she doesn’t want to take more from her son’s family than about the mom. It’s common etiquette in China to refuse offers like this from family.
"We will work with your *DAD* to get you a computer and the internet"
Don't make excuses for their mom, there is a reason why no one trust her.
The children are so much wiser than their mother....if you can even call her that!
@@maddib8173 lol
@@maddib8173 How much you wana bet that scar if from her dead-beat boyfriend from the city?
@@dot1068 just because someone is blood doesnt always make them family! I've learned that through out my own lifetime.
That woman needs to leave. She is the toxic one in the whole family that probably controls the husband and the kids. She cares for herself only. Also probably the reason the grandparents don't live with them. Just because the kids are biological to the mom doesn't mean they have to suffer through her, its always better to get away from toxicity.
He's going to be an amazing guy in future..! N hatts off to their hardworking dad 🥰
At least he have friends
This is Wholesome
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Hats off to Carolyn & her family for providing moral & material support to "ice boy" & his family, you guys have a heart of gold 👍👍🙏🙏
Appreciate the American family from CA who's trying to help them.. atleast the kids.....Respect....
Scmp: Here is the third ep of Ice boy
Me:
Guess I'll be supporting him till he grow up well🥰
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i wonder how the crew got paid on running this channel. contents were amazing, consistent, and super quality content
SCMP > Alibaba Group > Jack Ma
@@littlechicken56 Alibaba Intelligent (AI)
These kids are so great! Very intelligent and caring. I love them! I wish the best for this family and hope that the mother and father can get along and communicate better moving forward .
The American family seems so nice. I remember I felt the same way when watching the initial videos. I'm glad they are helping support his education. It's exciting he is getting a computer!
And what will a computer do?
@@neepers he can type up school reports, use it to look things up, use it to code/CAD, etc. And even use it to game. It's exciting.
@@Lime23415 He might use it for game only. When I was at his age, I told my father I needed a computer to study. But actually I wanted to play games. :D
If someone isn’t a part of your struggle, don’t let them be a part of your success.
~Dhar Mann
Oh no not Dhar Mann, time to get Cody Ko in here
Pwofessa whats wrong with him!
**joinen intensifies**
Each year they look like they got more nutrition and look happier,I'm so happy for them😄
"I thought Americans didn't care about others"
I don't blame him. Look at the USA now.
Edit: Whoa guys, looks like we have Republicans *and* Democrats here. No need to fight, you know you're different. Just lay off and talk about your political views later.
ya because we are dealing with the china virus
I agree even though I live in the US but I'm Taiwanese.
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He said I never thought a American would video chat with someone from China. And with downs come ups we can't sacrifice this state it's still the place wear men fought for where we were and we will do the same now. America is a free place while others have a socialist country or a king and queen we shall keep America free.
Ya same
And the saying still keeps going like : *the mom went to go get milk and came back 5 years later, when the kid started getting famous*
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actually its 6 months
And she also left to work in the city in order to make money. She didn’t just sit around expecting the dad to support her or the kids or become famous.
😆🤣😂
@@kramraliuga5589 Funny how she didn't send any of that money to her family, or the first episode of this series would've been a bit different ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So awesome that this American woman cares for this family. When I saw this video, a few years back, I was moved as well. I show this video to my third grade students, who complain about having to do classwork. They definitely learn to be grateful after watching it.
What happened to the mom's face? It looks like she got hit.
Also the daughter is such a smart and kind cookie.
Edit: harsh weather and spending a lot of time outside. Thanks to folks who answered my question!
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She should. Many many times for leaving them like that.
Sunburn and windburn
I think it got by cold wind 💨 lack of skin care
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It looks like dirt to me, and lack of moisturizer. It's a very cold and windy climate.
My mind was blown by the courage and level of maturity these beautiful kids have!
pls don’t forget when the boy said the mom beat him.
The translation was misleading; the boy meant to say “she likes to hit people”, which is a generally common Chinese phrase that describes short tempered/bullish people (not that she outright beats her children…)
I really feel bad for the uncle and grandma , especially the uncle , I mean they got a new house , enough food to eat , and the uncle , he can’t even do all the grades he has to drop out to make money doesn’t get that much food to eat . If I would be in that place I would take both of them with me . 💔😭
Mom: "The kids are starting to better understand things."
The kids have understood since day one how immature the mom and dad were being. Especially the mom and telling her to get her act together. Just watch the previous two videos on this family.
You guys rock. You're so patient in teaching these disadvantaged kids. I hope they both complete their education and live well.
Bless the family helping them! And bless the Chinese family ❤️
Big respect for the guy/team that come back every year to visit them. Respect again
bless the kids, they have been through so much. When they heard about getting a computer their faces lit up!
May that kid and his family be highly bless soon and live a prosperous life🙏
I am so happy they are doing better. I hope grandma and uncle can get some help too. 🙏
Father is truly a jackpot
Hardworking family man and very handsome on top
The opposite of his wife he chases
OOF
For everyone who wants to judge the mom as a gold digger- you have to realize their situation is not that simple. The parents had relationship problems too.
Also, it’s absolutely none of OUR places to judge THEM. I mean they lived in poverty and used to (or still do) struggled possibly week to week getting food. We live in nice houses with easy access to education and don’t have to worry about our basic needs. I personally don’t believe we, sitting in a place of extreme privilege, can say anything about how bad of a person she is.
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Exactly, people be judging her as if they would do something different if they had been in her shoes. Pathetic
leo ikr plus it had been years ago since that happened, people shouldn’t judge others by their past mistakes and move on
what? what gives you the assumption that I have extreme privilege and live in a nice house?
Holo Scope comparatively, anyone who has a roof over their heads, plumbing, electricity, a phone, access to education, access to affordable transportation, not having to worry about war or violence, are already much more privileged than the majority of the population on earth. I’m not saying you have a fantastic house. But I AM assuming that by having internet and access to TH-cam you’re at least better off than the ones living in poverty in these videos
I’m not super poor or super rich. Maybe I’m ‘better off’ than you, so I can’t say anything for your situation. But I personally recognize my own privilege.
I also know the majority of people who read my comment are pretty privileged (even if you might not be)
that could be tough for a 1 hour walk in a freezing weather.
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Glad for the boy and his sister. Hope things will start to look up for his teenage uncle as well. ❤️
Nice to see that the post gets very invested in the content it makes.
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@@lisaolivera6115 stop