My present issue with Cal-Fire : Inspector gave me his business card and the card of ONE local brush clearing company. "I've got a guy who can do this for you." "I'm good. Own my own Landscaping business." Two weeks later the same inspector issues a formal notice of inspection...A DEFINITE CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
I work in the logging industry and your completely right about the “managed” timber from the government. They’d rather watch it burn then actually use or maintain it, then when they finally decide to do anything it’s a complete nightmare to deal with them because of the ridiculous rules they have. Just ask any logger in the Pacific Northwest about the Forest Service and they’ll give you a earful.
They ARE the cause of the Hermit Peak fire here in Northern NM, the largest fire ever here in New Mexico, which was just contained after 6 months. 50+ years of mismanagement and 50+ years of disallowing locals to thin land grant forest. Fck the Forest Service, so much loss here that could have been prevented.
Speaking from somebody who works on the suppression side of that organization. You and your dad keep dropping trees. There's plenty (of trees) ,thanks for making it safer for us.
What’s happening and I’m seeing it in other industries now, cities and states are bleeding money and losing revenue, so they are looking for anything or changing codes to make things now out of code so revenue comes in. Greg Whitstock the Pond Guy posted a while back that the city his large business is in changed the height of ladders in regards to elevators. What was acceptable last year is now out of code. So the inspector arrived and after a fine of about $450 if I recall they found out about the new code. The easy thing for a city is to see how many building they have that have elevators and they can project the income they will make by changing code. A state like California that is losing so many people and changing laws in regards to vehicles and pollution, I’m sure it’s only going to get worse for the small guy dealing with the government trying to recoup losses.
They set the code offices up like law enforcement to bring in revenue like a traffic cop does on vehicle violations. It’s all about the money nothing more.
Except what was existing prior to the Code Change is Grandfathered by Law (Federal I think) so the City can't just change the Code to generate Revenue through Fines, not Legally anyway. If the Elevator Ladders existed at Height before the Code made Height Illegal, those Ladders ARE STILL LEGAL...NEW Ladders installed at Height after the Code changed are not Legal and can be Fined, but not the ones that existed before the Code changed... Grandfathering is why you still see really old buildings with Insulation/Plumbing/HVAC/Electrical etc. that's completely inadequate according to Code and yet the Inspectors don't do anything about them...they can't...
back a few 100 years ago controlled burning was used to manage under brush. now its over grown with idiots in the woods %90 ish fires started by idiots
Yeah don't ya just love it when a simple job turns difficult and usually it's not the job but all the people that give the permissions and permits that make it difficult, oh and the weather to
It’s a joke, if the land owner says “I want those trees cut down”, that should be all that’s necessary. The government should not have a thing to say about it when you are on private land!
That's why California has a fire 🔥 season. They call them "managed forests" because they manage to prevent landowners from actual clearing the under brush. I love the Midwest! We don't have those issues here in Missouri.
You guys should know in California you can clear cut your whole property without any issues as long as you do not remove the timber from the property to be sold. Our issue is they do not want over graving for profit that’s why they limit it.
@@VBELTandSON So cut down the trees, run them through a chipper and you've now got fuel for a wood-pellet stove for YEARS... Saves on your electricity/gas bills for heating & cooking...
@@VBELTandSON That is what the original Act said. In fact the original Act allowed logging on parcels under five acres without a THP. Now if you want to clear your property, it may be considered converting it to a non-timber use and require a conversion permit.
It's a real shame that California doesn't realize that cutting clearings and cleaning up the dead debris and undergrowth would greatly reduce the chance of fire.
Not sure where you’re getting you’re info. In our area of California out of Bakersfield in the mountains they go through and drop dead trees and guys go collect firewood after. They just want to make sure people are following the rules and not taking good stuff They’ll use goats as well to clear the underbrush growth
@@lilredcummins 👍 The area is Alta Sierra, Shirley meadows out of Bakersfield that the forest service’s goes through and drops the dead trees then guys go through and grab the felled trees to take home for firewood Cattle are ran in the mountains around here and they seem to keep the underbrush trimmed down pretty good, not sure how? But seems to be the case St Helena California area has goats go through to clear the underbrush that I’ve seen personally and I’ve been told by the goat guy he goes to many areas of California
Those oversight guys did a really great job this year, only half the flippin state burned to the ground!! Sorry, just push's some buttons!! Great job Sam! Everything we've seen you do has been above and beyond. It's a shame you have to get straight out harassed like that. Great job keeping your cool!! 8) JMHO --gary
*Not sure how it is in California but where we're from if you pulled 100,000 lbs of lumber off a wet hill without a paper permit posted they'd probably shut you down for a month. Plus we've got to have contractor name and license number on every truck. We had some enviros pop our tires, ice pick our radiators and sand our fluids on one job three different times. We had cameras and everything but they came in on bicycles and worked in the dark. :-(*
great video as usual, those inspectors can be a real pain in the backside, yours and V Belts work has always been exemplary and to the letter of what your hired to do, that shot at th end from the owner, wow what a view they will enjoy once the house is done, my wife and I built a house in 2000 and i was aloud through my lawyer and the builder to have a access key and to monitor the work from the short time window we had to sell, move and take position of our new home and found 1 day when i arrived to meet 1 of the tradesman their about so changes and found an inspector going through materials on my site and had a measuring tape out and then tried getting into the house, we looked at each puzzled and went to ask him what he was doing their, oh surprise inspection a neighbour complained about the site, i said nor possible can i see some I.D. then he got mad , oh i don't have to so i called my lawyer and he told me to call the cops so i did without this guy knowing , when they got there a few minutes later he was really mad, they asked why he was trespassing with out documentation and made up some B.S. reason the officer told him pack up took his I.D. and plate # and would be investigated just to be sure, i was glad for the officer, he said some of these guys just show up check out sites and steal material of all kinds, and this house was out on the city limits, we were lucky i believe showing up when we did, thx for the video 👍
I hate some inspectors. I'm not in logging or anything like that but I used to be agriculture pesticide applicator and worked in 3 different counties. My counties inspectors were great the neighboring counties were all garbage. They would literally look for any little thing to write you up on and if they couldn't find anything they would try to create something. My home county would come out see im in 100% compliance thank me for doing such a diligent job making sure I was in compliance and leave. The other county made me feel like some sort of criminal that was out on parole with a parole agent looking for a reason to send me back.
@@johnnysouza5601 awesome to have some good ones around, in our case we bought just about 1/3 of an acre and was a nice place and people going to be our neighbours and we were told there had been allot of theft going on in new home construction so this is why I had my lawyer write this agreement with my builder who was awesome, if materials had gone missing we were on the hook for them, so I visited our property twice a day it on my way home from work, so no big deal, when the framer and I got there and this guy walking around measuring my piles of lumber, framer says oh oh, maybe he's a thief and was on his personal vehicle, a piece of junk old truck, tall rust bucket,I got worried he got defensive when we asked what he's doing and got nowhere and called the cops and they took care of it, we later found out through our builder he had been fired from the city inspection office for theft and illegally trespassing on jobsites and home sites, he pleaded guilty charges were dropped by the Crown attorney and he lost his pension asking with his job, and he made people feel the same way those idiots made you feel when you were doing your job properly, there are lots of good ones and crooked ones
I have 40 acres recreation property. The state let the bark beetle kill all the pine. So I had to deal with all the standing dead. Took me 5 years to get permits. I didn’t want ground raked and slash piles. So logger and I agreed that limbs would lay where they fell. The county didn’t like that so they said the logger was taking advantage of me. I told them to take a hike. Then they wanted permission to inspect. I said ask the logger, if and when he says, you can. Logger thanked me, had to remove a tree that fell across a dry creek before inspection. After inspection, county asked if they could bring other land owners and loggers into my property to show them how logging should be done. The land looked like no logging had been done other than a few skidder trails. The logger and I are still friends 10 years latter.
Like all compliance inspectors, they try to justify their existence. I particularly despise those that have no freakin experience in what they are inspecting or idea what their own rules are. Nice video.
Just to put this out there, before all the Tribes native to California were put on Reservations, the Tribes did back burning, cleared fire breaks an trails and used the dead fallen timber for cooking and heating fires for 1000s of years. That is the ONLY reason there are trees in California in excess of 2500 years old, a rare few pushing 5k or 6k years.
I think your Dad quoting chapter and verse to CDF was great. Tell him guy he knows down in R&R the that used to have the 97 F350 dually said hi. The whole situation with forest management is a outright disaster in this state. You are young and have patience...I have none anymore.
Wants to issue a violation for having an electronic version of a piece of paper, meanwhile is in violation of several actual safety requirements himself. What a joke.
@@VBELTandSON Its the same on about any job. I've been around a minute or two and I have seen it in every industry I have worked in, Military, Logging, Construction, Vehicular Maintenance, Demolition, Real Estate, Paper Production, whatever. I had some jackass stop in the ditch in front of my home and ask for a logging permit a few weeks ago when I was clearing some pines to build a new shop. I asked him if he was lost. He proceeded to tell me that I was on Company property... I told him he should have the Sheriff swing by and we could talk about it together or he could get ventilated if I caught him on MY property again. Long story short, He leased some property adjacent to mine to hunt and was less informed than he should have been. There ya go. Cant stop idiots even in the private sector...LOL Keep your saddle oiled and your gun greased.
Everything the lunatics running Kommiefornia for the last 40 years is designed to burn the State to ashes. The lack of proper Forest Management. Either decommissioning or letting water reservoirs decay from lack of maintenance. Letting the tanker planes for fire fighting be destroyed by over use and lack of proper maintenance, killing over 30+ seasoned air crews(200 people give or take) and not replacing the lost airframes....... purely criminal.
It is such an eye opener seeing other businesses in others parts of the country and how they operate. It is so different at times it’s like another country it seems. I operate from Indiana, Georgia, and Florida. We do not require any type permits to clear vegetation. Just license and insurance. The fire department certainly doesn’t show up unless requested for control burn or if god forbid something bad happens. Just like your other video regarding trailers. No cdl unless your 26,100 gross overall. Must be a headache but I’m sure your very used to it.
Not only tractors need greasing… that’s why we have inspectors.. and that’s why they ask who owns the company, different envelop thickness from different company owners..
They need to let people manage the forest properly and remove some of the red tape. The pencil pushers seem to want to go back to the old natural way of allowing fire to manage the forest.
Watching your videos, and dreaming of owning well forested land to be able to take care of a section myself. Can't wait to buy some heavy equipment, a mill and a fire truck of my own.
Last time I was out west, I turned around in Needles. I said I would never enter California again, it’s a shame because California was a nice place. I wouldn’t contribute a dime to that state, besides there are other beautiful states. Montana and Wyoming are much more worthy of my money and I’m happy living right here in Northern Florida. Good luck dealing with the tyrannical government.
If inspector asks what company you are or who is the owner, most of the time he knows all guys operate in this area and have some benefits from them And he don't want any new guys around. That's how they saved jobs for guys what they know and protect them because they somehow pay him, this way or other.
I hate to see a burned area like that, lost timber value, lost public opportunity to enjoy the area, and worst of all is the loss of wildlife and the habitat. I serve as chairman of our local soil and water conservation district and I am a forest landowner. The one thing I do every year is do controlled burns on some of my tracts to keep the underbrush height down which makes it harder for a wildfire to climb into the canopy. This also improves the quality of the habitat for all manner of wildlife. I find that most private landowners are better stewards of the land than the government.
A Thick Forest is NEVER a Healthy Forest within 50 feet or so of an Above Ground Power Lines... If you've got Forest Fires that are being caused by trees coming in physical contact of Power Lines, the Utility Company that owns those Lines is NOT doing it's Proper Preventative Maintenance and should probably be Investigated for Criminal Negligence and/or Sued for any and all damage caused by said Forest Fire since as I understand it, ALL Companies that own High-Tension Power Lines (the ones you see running through the wilderness bringing power from distant Power Plants to your County/City) are REQUIRED to keep plant life away from those lines so that short circuits and/or Forest Fires don't happen because a tree touched a live line...
They hand out free wood cutting permits where I live at. Dead fallin wood all over. I went to go cut some, took a different truck and forgot my "wood cutting permit". About half way through of loading my truck, a forest maintenance guy shows up asking for my permit. I didn't have it on me. He gave me a big ol lecture how I was stealing from the government and how he could write me a very expensive ticket. Made me unload my truck and told me to leave. This is what's wrong with California's forests.
Very true words in the middle of the video mate they need to be managed, we have a similar issue in Australia, I’m a bit more of a coastal living person but I love seeing these mountain views, wow great job
once watched a guy who claimed to have been falling trees "all his life" in his 50's... i tried to warn him what he was attempting would never work... physics was not on his side... not at all... i offered to get the tractor running and ensure it didnt fall on the house... guy told me to stfu and let him do his job... he fell a massive tree, directly threw the center of his daughter and son in laws home.. in the end....they stripped it down to the ground floors and had to rebuild the house due to the damage done.... the daughter who had told us all her father knew his shit... well...she moved most of the stuff out of the house into the living space they had converted the close in barn to, (the upper loft area was all turned into a living space), anyway... yeah it was a fucking mess.. the 12yo daughter just looked at grandad, told him he should have listened to me, i may not look it, but, im quite skilled at mechanical and tech stuff, and even she saw it looked really bad... thing is... i cold have used some cables they had, to rig a rope between a couple other very large trees, and the tractor, that would have ensured it didnt hit the house but went to the side (also would have been pulling on it with a pully winch setup)... the professional who came out to evaluate the sitution was glad they had pictures form that day taken by the daughter... he was just shocked the guy thought he could fall that tree and not have it hit the house..you couldnt have topped it without hitting the house with the top 20-30% of the tree FFFS... it was great... the guy realized who did the job and kept talking about the mistakes, how its simple for people who have helped fall a few trees to think they can manage things that... even a very experienced faller wouldnt try... they were lucky the insurance covered it... but... took over a year for the home to be back to move in state... the old guy who the barn was setup for as a living space got to live in an old RV till the house was rebuilt... also.. seen so many people not pay attention and walk into danger zones when people are falling trees.... wish we could have had one boss had arrested for that shit.. nearly got himself killed a few times doing that shit...
I've delt with suprise inspectors in a work safety area before. Had them coming up asking for this or that without wearing the appropriate safety gear. Let them blow all that Hot air...then tell them to put it on or leave. Half the time they turn with their tail between their legs and get the gear, others want to argue. But after threatening them about OSHA regs...they usually comply. Of course there is always one that thinks they are above the rules. A phone call shuts them down pretty quick.
Owner operator* and he couldn’t get more aggressive tires because of supply chain issues. Back ordered. Maybe he should have kept the bald tires on there 😬
Here in Washington State after Mt St Helens blew its top, they wouldn't allow loggers to come in and get the millions and millions of board feet of timber cleared from Spirit Lake. It's still just floating on about 1.5 square mile raft, rotting.
No matter what you do to help yourself or property sucks that everyone on else wants paperwork permits and money. That's why nobody wants to work with the city or states
been watching your channel for quite a while.just bought my first cummins,2021 3500 dually with a dump body.gonna start working it monday,replaces a 2015 f350.see how it goes.
Amazing how neighbors think they can make you do what they like on your land! If they wanted that why didn’t they buy it? Because they couldn’t afford it! So shut up!
Paper documentation in today’s society is dumb. Digital easier to manage and carry. Remember when your math teacher said you need to know this because you won’t carry a calculator around. Time and technology changes procedures. Get with it inspectors
I have had idiots come walking into my unit telling my my corks weren't sharp enough. lol one day a was wearing Romeo's . people need to stay in there lane
My mother a few years back in our old second gen with a V10 took her horse it to go riding and when she pulled in she didn't see a pretty big rock and she pushed that thing 10 ft with a gooseneck horse trailer. Me and my brother had to go out there and fix a couple steering components. Can't beat a second gen
My present issue with Cal-Fire : Inspector gave me his business card and the card of ONE local brush clearing company. "I've got a guy who can do this for you."
"I'm good. Own my own Landscaping business." Two weeks later the same inspector issues a formal notice of inspection...A DEFINITE CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
I work in the logging industry and your completely right about the “managed” timber from the government. They’d rather watch it burn then actually use or maintain it, then when they finally decide to do anything it’s a complete nightmare to deal with them because of the ridiculous rules they have. Just ask any logger in the Pacific Northwest about the Forest Service and they’ll give you a earful.
They ARE the cause of the Hermit Peak fire here in Northern NM, the largest fire ever here in New Mexico, which was just contained after 6 months. 50+ years of mismanagement and 50+ years of disallowing locals to thin land grant forest. Fck the Forest Service, so much loss here that could have been prevented.
Speaking from somebody who works on the suppression side of that organization. You and your dad keep dropping trees. There's plenty (of trees) ,thanks for making it safer for us.
I totally agree with your opinions on forest management. Your spot on.
Worthless government employees trying to justify their job.
What’s happening and I’m seeing it in other industries now, cities and states are bleeding money and losing revenue, so they are looking for anything or changing codes to make things now out of code so revenue comes in. Greg Whitstock the Pond Guy posted a while back that the city his large business is in changed the height of ladders in regards to elevators. What was acceptable last year is now out of code. So the inspector arrived and after a fine of about $450 if I recall they found out about the new code. The easy thing for a city is to see how many building they have that have elevators and they can project the income they will make by changing code. A state like California that is losing so many people and changing laws in regards to vehicles and pollution, I’m sure it’s only going to get worse for the small guy dealing with the government trying to recoup losses.
Yeap, seems to be happening every where that is seeing population decline. Fun days.
They set the code offices up like law enforcement to bring in revenue like a traffic cop does on vehicle violations. It’s all about the money nothing more.
Except what was existing prior to the Code Change is Grandfathered by Law (Federal I think) so the City can't just change the Code to generate Revenue through Fines, not Legally anyway. If the Elevator Ladders existed at Height before the Code made Height Illegal, those Ladders ARE STILL LEGAL...NEW Ladders installed at Height after the Code changed are not Legal and can be Fined, but not the ones that existed before the Code changed...
Grandfathering is why you still see really old buildings with Insulation/Plumbing/HVAC/Electrical etc. that's completely inadequate according to Code and yet the Inspectors don't do anything about them...they can't...
Its like whack-a-mole between fire departments, conservation officers and forest rangers around here you shoo one off and another pops up
"Log it or watch it burn". It really is that simple.
Now days sad but true
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@@thomaskirchoff2027 it’s always been like that.
back a few 100 years ago controlled burning was used to manage under brush. now its over grown with idiots in the woods %90 ish fires started by idiots
Yeah don't ya just love it when a simple job turns difficult and usually it's not the job but all the people that give the permissions and permits that make it difficult, oh and the weather to
It always makes me wonder who complained when the Permit Police show up on a job site.
It’s always a neighbor
It’s always a good time when you call out the inspector.
It’s a joke, if the land owner says “I want those trees cut down”, that should be all that’s necessary. The government should not have a thing to say about it when you are on private land!
Too bad it doesn't work that way. The government can declare just about anywhere they want a "Green Belt" or an "Ecologically Protected" zone.
That's why California has a fire 🔥 season. They call them "managed forests" because they manage to prevent landowners from actual clearing the under brush. I love the Midwest! We don't have those issues here in Missouri.
You guys should know in California you can clear cut your whole property without any issues as long as you do not remove the timber from the property to be sold. Our issue is they do not want over graving for profit that’s why they limit it.
@@VBELTandSON So cut down the trees, run them through a chipper and you've now got fuel for a wood-pellet stove for YEARS...
Saves on your electricity/gas bills for heating & cooking...
@@VBELTandSON That is what the original Act said. In fact the original Act allowed logging on parcels under five acres without a THP. Now if you want to clear your property, it may be considered converting it to a non-timber use and require a conversion permit.
I say to heck with all those critics of your work. I think you do a great job, I would be proud to have you work for me.
Like most inspectors who feel they must justify their jobs. By collecting fines and fees.
It's a real shame that California doesn't realize that cutting clearings and cleaning up the dead debris and undergrowth would greatly reduce the chance of fire.
Not sure where you’re getting you’re info. In our area of California out of Bakersfield in the mountains they go through and drop dead trees and guys go collect firewood after. They just want to make sure people are following the rules and not taking good stuff
They’ll use goats as well to clear the underbrush growth
@@Fordgroup00 Well that is good news. Glad to hear that land management is happening in your area.
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The area is Alta Sierra, Shirley meadows out of Bakersfield that the forest service’s goes through and drops the dead trees then guys go through and grab the felled trees to take home for firewood
Cattle are ran in the mountains around here and they seem to keep the underbrush trimmed down pretty good, not sure how? But seems to be the case
St Helena California area has goats go through to clear the underbrush that I’ve seen personally and I’ve been told by the goat guy he goes to many areas of California
Love the music...Nice work as allways...Got to love rubbernecking inspectoyds
Looks beautiful, reminds me of British Columbia. I lived there in 1980.thank you for taking the time to video. Steve from N.B Canada
Those oversight guys did a really great job this year, only half the flippin state burned to the ground!! Sorry, just push's some buttons!! Great job Sam! Everything we've seen you do has been above and beyond. It's a shame you have to get straight out harassed like that. Great job keeping your cool!! 8) JMHO --gary
*Not sure how it is in California but where we're from if you pulled 100,000 lbs of lumber off a wet hill without a paper permit posted they'd probably shut you down for a month. Plus we've got to have contractor name and license number on every truck. We had some enviros pop our tires, ice pick our radiators and sand our fluids on one job three different times. We had cameras and everything but they came in on bicycles and worked in the dark. :-(*
great video as usual, those inspectors can be a real pain in the backside, yours and V Belts work has always been exemplary and to the letter of what your hired to do, that shot at th end from the owner, wow what a view they will enjoy once the house is done, my wife and I built a house in 2000 and i was aloud through my lawyer and the builder to have a access key and to monitor the work from the short time window we had to sell, move and take position of our new home and found 1 day when i arrived to meet 1 of the tradesman their about so changes and found an inspector going through materials on my site and had a measuring tape out and then tried getting into the house, we looked at each puzzled and went to ask him what he was doing their, oh surprise inspection a neighbour complained about the site, i said nor possible can i see some I.D. then he got mad , oh i don't have to so i called my lawyer and he told me to call the cops so i did without this guy knowing , when they got there a few minutes later he was really mad, they asked why he was trespassing with out documentation and made up some B.S. reason the officer told him pack up took his I.D. and plate # and would be investigated just to be sure, i was glad for the officer, he said some of these guys just show up check out sites and steal material of all kinds, and this house was out on the city limits, we were lucky i believe showing up when we did, thx for the video 👍
I hate some inspectors. I'm not in logging or anything like that but I used to be agriculture pesticide applicator and worked in 3 different counties. My counties inspectors were great the neighboring counties were all garbage. They would literally look for any little thing to write you up on and if they couldn't find anything they would try to create something. My home county would come out see im in 100% compliance thank me for doing such a diligent job making sure I was in compliance and leave. The other county made me feel like some sort of criminal that was out on parole with a parole agent looking for a reason to send me back.
@@johnnysouza5601 awesome to have some good ones around, in our case we bought just about 1/3 of an acre and was a nice place and people going to be our neighbours and we were told there had been allot of theft going on in new home construction so this is why I had my lawyer write this agreement with my builder who was awesome, if materials had gone missing we were on the hook for them, so I visited our property twice a day it on my way home from work, so no big deal, when the framer and I got there and this guy walking around measuring my piles of lumber, framer says oh oh, maybe he's a thief and was on his personal vehicle, a piece of junk old truck, tall rust bucket,I got worried he got defensive when we asked what he's doing and got nowhere and called the cops and they took care of it, we later found out through our builder he had been fired from the city inspection office for theft and illegally trespassing on jobsites and home sites, he pleaded guilty charges were dropped by the Crown attorney and he lost his pension asking with his job, and he made people feel the same way those idiots made you feel when you were doing your job properly, there are lots of good ones and crooked ones
He said “hopefully while he’s down there he greases the 180”🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Cant hear a word he saying without his hard hat.
I have 40 acres recreation property. The state let the bark beetle kill all the pine. So I had to deal with all the standing dead. Took me 5 years to get permits. I didn’t want ground raked and slash piles. So logger and I agreed that limbs would lay where they fell. The county didn’t like that so they said the logger was taking advantage of me. I told them to take a hike. Then they wanted permission to inspect. I said ask the logger, if and when he says, you can. Logger thanked me, had to remove a tree that fell across a dry creek before inspection. After inspection, county asked if they could bring other land owners and loggers into my property to show them how logging should be done. The land looked like no logging had been done other than a few skidder trails. The logger and I are still friends 10 years latter.
Like all compliance inspectors, they try to justify their existence. I particularly despise those that have no freakin experience in what they are inspecting or idea what their own rules are. Nice video.
Just to put this out there, before all the Tribes native to California were put on Reservations, the Tribes did back burning, cleared fire breaks an trails and used the dead fallen timber for cooking and heating fires for 1000s of years. That is the ONLY reason there are trees in California in excess of 2500 years old, a rare few pushing 5k or 6k years.
It’s always something and if it’s not one thing, it’s a thousand others.
I think your Dad quoting chapter and verse to CDF was great. Tell him guy he knows down in R&R the that used to have the 97 F350 dually said hi. The whole situation with forest management is a outright disaster in this state. You are young and have patience...I have none anymore.
Wants to issue a violation for having an electronic version of a piece of paper, meanwhile is in violation of several actual safety requirements himself.
What a joke.
Exactly! It’s unreal
@@VBELTandSON Its the same on about any job. I've been around a minute or two and I have seen it in every industry I have worked in, Military, Logging, Construction, Vehicular Maintenance, Demolition, Real Estate, Paper Production, whatever. I had some jackass stop in the ditch in front of my home and ask for a logging permit a few weeks ago when I was clearing some pines to build a new shop. I asked him if he was lost. He proceeded to tell me that I was on Company property... I told him he should have the Sheriff swing by and we could talk about it together or he could get ventilated if I caught him on MY property again. Long story short, He leased some property adjacent to mine to hunt and was less informed than he should have been. There ya go. Cant stop idiots even in the private sector...LOL Keep your saddle oiled and your gun greased.
Inspectors have been disappearing into deep holes. For many generations so put that excavator to good use. 😂😂
Cal fire has the appearance of "safety" but like everything in California it's becoming more of a revenue stream for the local and state government.
Holly suffering catfish, get a life inspector. Focus on all the thousands of acres that need proper forest management🙄, 080💪🏻 thanks for sharing Sam
If it wasn’t so heavily regulated there wouldn’t be any forest. People poach trees as well as animals
Cal fire, ya, they come up to give you guys crap yet they don’t do anything to property owners that don’t clear anything for fire hazards.
Everything the lunatics running Kommiefornia for the last 40 years is designed to burn the State to ashes.
The lack of proper Forest Management. Either decommissioning or letting water reservoirs decay from lack of maintenance. Letting the tanker planes for fire fighting be destroyed by over use and lack of proper maintenance, killing over 30+ seasoned air crews(200 people give or take) and not replacing the lost airframes....... purely criminal.
Ol Haus with the bottle jack, nice trick!
It is such an eye opener seeing other businesses in others parts of the country and how they operate. It is so different at times it’s like another country it seems. I operate from Indiana, Georgia, and Florida. We do not require any type permits to clear vegetation. Just license and insurance. The fire department certainly doesn’t show up unless requested for control burn or if god forbid something bad happens. Just like your other video regarding trailers. No cdl unless your 26,100 gross overall. Must be a headache but I’m sure your very used to it.
Not only tractors need greasing… that’s why we have inspectors.. and that’s why they ask who owns the company, different envelop thickness from different company owners..
here in KY, it seems weird to hear the phrase..'now we are ALLOWED to fell trees on private property that the owner wants down..
The registration only apply to the owners that are going to sell The timber. If they want to cut the al down and grind them up on site we can.
Inspectors always try to dominate and exert any authority they think they have. Mostly dick head moves.
Hahaha!! I hope he greases the 180! 😂 I love it
They need to let people manage the forest properly and remove some of the red tape. The pencil pushers seem to want to go back to the old natural way of allowing fire to manage the forest.
Nice job!
I "PERMIT" you to move on to the next job and get more permits!
Do as he says not as he does . 😂🤣 great video as always.
Man I you guys put out really good content.
Keep the videos coming!!! 🤙🏼
Watching your videos, and dreaming of owning well forested land to be able to take care of a section myself. Can't wait to buy some heavy equipment, a mill and a fire truck of my own.
Last time I was out west, I turned around in Needles. I said I would never enter California again, it’s a shame because California was a nice place. I wouldn’t contribute a dime to that state, besides there are other beautiful states. Montana and Wyoming are much more worthy of my money and I’m happy living right here in Northern Florida. Good luck dealing with the tyrannical government.
And forward to keep the forest plump and nice they got to be able to keep it alive and not let it burn down
That old skiddy has worked out pretty well for you it seems like!!!
What old skiddy?
If inspector asks what company you are or who is the owner, most of the time he knows all guys operate in this area and have some benefits from them And he don't want any new guys around. That's how they saved jobs for guys what they know and protect them because they somehow pay him, this way or other.
For inspectors to ask that it’s a joke. He is there because a permit with a company name is on file. He knows who is there before he shows up
I hate to see a burned area like that, lost timber value, lost public opportunity to enjoy the area, and worst of all is the loss of wildlife and the habitat. I serve as chairman of our local soil and water conservation district and I am a forest landowner. The one thing I do every year is do controlled burns on some of my tracts to keep the underbrush height down which makes it harder for a wildfire to climb into the canopy. This also improves the quality of the habitat for all manner of wildlife. I find that most private landowners are better stewards of the land than the government.
A Thick Forest is NEVER a Healthy Forest within 50 feet or so of an Above Ground Power Lines...
If you've got Forest Fires that are being caused by trees coming in physical contact of Power Lines, the Utility Company that owns those Lines is NOT doing it's Proper Preventative Maintenance and should probably be Investigated for Criminal Negligence and/or Sued for any and all damage caused by said Forest Fire since as I understand it, ALL Companies that own High-Tension Power Lines (the ones you see running through the wilderness bringing power from distant Power Plants to your County/City) are REQUIRED to keep plant life away from those lines so that short circuits and/or Forest Fires don't happen because a tree touched a live line...
Great video! You guys are doing excellent work!!
They hand out free wood cutting permits where I live at. Dead fallin wood all over. I went to go cut some, took a different truck and forgot my "wood cutting permit". About half way through of loading my truck, a forest maintenance guy shows up asking for my permit. I didn't have it on me. He gave me a big ol lecture how I was stealing from the government and how he could write me a very expensive ticket. Made me unload my truck and told me to leave. This is what's wrong with California's forests.
Hey Sam thanks for the video sitting in the shop on a rainy day in the pnw
feel bad for you guys dealing with all that BS
Yeah it’s a load of bs for sure. Always got to be something
@@VBELTandSON if it's not one thing they find another
Login those good healthy trees might give us better lumber to build with these days
Very true words in the middle of the video mate they need to be managed, we have a similar issue in Australia, I’m a bit more of a coastal living person but I love seeing these mountain views, wow great job
Log truck has some racing slicks it looked like
Taylor will be busy changing tires for V-Belt!
Owner must enjoy watch this nice video
Very cool 👍🏼
once watched a guy who claimed to have been falling trees "all his life" in his 50's... i tried to warn him what he was attempting would never work... physics was not on his side... not at all... i offered to get the tractor running and ensure it didnt fall on the house... guy told me to stfu and let him do his job... he fell a massive tree, directly threw the center of his daughter and son in laws home.. in the end....they stripped it down to the ground floors and had to rebuild the house due to the damage done.... the daughter who had told us all her father knew his shit... well...she moved most of the stuff out of the house into the living space they had converted the close in barn to, (the upper loft area was all turned into a living space), anyway... yeah it was a fucking mess.. the 12yo daughter just looked at grandad, told him he should have listened to me, i may not look it, but, im quite skilled at mechanical and tech stuff, and even she saw it looked really bad... thing is... i cold have used some cables they had, to rig a rope between a couple other very large trees, and the tractor, that would have ensured it didnt hit the house but went to the side (also would have been pulling on it with a pully winch setup)... the professional who came out to evaluate the sitution was glad they had pictures form that day taken by the daughter... he was just shocked the guy thought he could fall that tree and not have it hit the house..you couldnt have topped it without hitting the house with the top 20-30% of the tree FFFS... it was great... the guy realized who did the job and kept talking about the mistakes, how its simple for people who have helped fall a few trees to think they can manage things that... even a very experienced faller wouldnt try... they were lucky the insurance covered it... but... took over a year for the home to be back to move in state... the old guy who the barn was setup for as a living space got to live in an old RV till the house was rebuilt...
also.. seen so many people not pay attention and walk into danger zones when people are falling trees.... wish we could have had one boss had arrested for that shit.. nearly got himself killed a few times doing that shit...
I've delt with suprise inspectors in a work safety area before.
Had them coming up asking for this or that without wearing the appropriate safety gear. Let them blow all that Hot air...then tell them to put it on or leave. Half the time they turn with their tail between their legs and get the gear, others want to argue. But after threatening them about OSHA regs...they usually comply. Of course there is always one that thinks they are above the rules. A phone call shuts them down pretty quick.
That is an awesome view. Also: Nothing worse than an @$$hole with a little power.
Take a little oil, spin a gear in it and you can haul tons of log up a hill.
State government bureaucracy must be the #1 employer in CA.
love how these drivers run highway tires off road talk about danger start slideing with 80k on isnt going too end good
Owner operator* and he couldn’t get more aggressive tires because of supply chain issues. Back ordered. Maybe he should have kept the bald tires on there 😬
Hard time no hard hat, oh well LOL!!
just tell the communist dictators, just let you do your job and leave you guys the hell alone, you guys do a great job and take pride in your work!
Can't believe what you were moving with a mini excavator job well done
20k machines get a lot done somehow
Here in Washington State after Mt St Helens blew its top, they wouldn't allow loggers to come in and get the millions and millions of board feet of timber cleared from Spirit Lake. It's still just floating on about 1.5 square mile raft, rotting.
Brandon type people.
GREAT GREAT GREAT JOB. GOD BLESS ALL Y'ALL...
100% nailed it here in CA.
i like to see that tree huging inspector come to wv he would takeing ass kicking
Looks amazing!
No matter what you do to help yourself or property sucks that everyone on else wants paperwork permits and money. That's why nobody wants to work with the city or states
Blatant effort to revenue raise, no 2 ways about it
Um from what I've seen Mr. Inspector needs to be out clearing forested land of underbrush so California doesn't burn down yearly.
He can't fine the forests for money tho is why
Nice work again
Nice work! How was Mr Haar to work for? I removed all the stumps and built the road on his adjacent property several years ago.
been watching your channel for quite a while.just bought my first cummins,2021 3500 dually with a dump body.gonna start working it monday,replaces a 2015 f350.see how it goes.
Not easy but you 2 did an amazing job 👍🏻💪🏻
Will you show the details on that scabbard for your saw mounted on the front of the excavator sometime? That is pretty cool
Amazing how neighbors think they can make you do what they like on your land! If they wanted that why didn’t they buy it? Because they couldn’t afford it! So shut up!
Logging Truck Drivers are a different breed of drivers.
Log it, graze it, or watch it burn 🔥
So much for actually owning the land. More like renting the land there.
Thanks for another great video 👍🇦🇺
Great job sorry about the bullshit you had to deal with!
Looks good Sam 👍👊
Come to Louisiana and you do not see pine needles 2' thick under pines like I saw in Nevada.
I’m not in Nevada
I agree with your comments, some just don’t get it 🤔!!!
California. The inspections are a means a extortion
Now you know have the paper permit on the job I'ave had some logging done twice and no problems from Cal Fire:)
In a digital world. Makes sense. Try doing 1000s of logging jobs. They will try an find something on you at some point right or wrong. Bs logic
Paper documentation in today’s society is dumb. Digital easier to manage and carry. Remember when your math teacher said you need to know this because you won’t carry a calculator around. Time and technology changes procedures. Get with it inspectors
great work!!
Your 080 is a beast. Curious where you got your grapples from ?
Some pretty logs!
Wow they sure don’t let you load trucks down in Cali like they do in BC... here that would be a half load.
Truck weighs 40 empty only aloud 80k total on the highway
Why you and your dad sold the cable and grapple skidder y'all had ?
Still have the cable Skidder
I have had idiots come walking into my unit telling my my corks weren't sharp enough. lol one day a was wearing Romeo's .
people need to stay in there lane
My buddy Andy
as thick as those trees are, there is no way want to live in that gas tank!
My mother a few years back in our old second gen with a V10 took her horse it to go riding and when she pulled in she didn't see a pretty big rock and she pushed that thing 10 ft with a gooseneck horse trailer. Me and my brother had to go out there and fix a couple steering components. Can't beat a second gen
Great video
Hoss is a beast.