Smash Ultimate's Forgotten DLC Character
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 พ.ค. 2024
- One player has managed to take a character that was written off as an unviable tournament character, solely an online gimmick, to levels never before thought possible.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 Intro
00:40 Banjo-Kazooie are Raring to Go!
01:11 Banjo is BAD
02:01 Online Banjo
02:18 Tweek's Banjo
03:20 Sora
03:51 Toriguri and The Rise of Banjo
07:30 Umebura SP10
08:30 vs. Zomba
10:23 KOWLOON #9
11:47 Outro
📝✂️ Written & Edited by Jazara
📸 Produced by @turndownforwalt
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#SSBU #Toriguri #Tweek #Umebura #Banjo #SmashUltimate #turndownforULT - เกม
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I know that you have edited for WolfeyVGC in the past and I was wondering if you had anything to do with the title of one of their more recent videos, "There will never be another Pokemon Player like Ray Rizzo"? Since, the title is so similar to that one Melee video about HBOX.
The tag of the first player at 8:20 is Ball, #okpg is a crew(?) iirc
Kowloon is also pronounced “ku-ron”
And you should consider stop with the freaking Banjo jokes, how about that? Yeah we know the character is mediocre, you do not need to keep going yelling about how bad is he at any moment. I am happy enough that TG showed how any character has potential
Plant's so forgotten, it didn't even get the video for "Smash Ultimate's Forgotten DLC Character"
I came here to make the same joke. Props for beating me to it
Waiting for the Lucky plant video
At least there’s Sparg0’s joke pick.
i miss brood
#PlantGang rise up
Every character in ultimate just needs time, dedication, determination, motivation, and a cracked Japanese player to have top representation
And the Smash fandom, like many communities, don't really want to put time into anyone who didn't get a spotlight first hand unless someone discovers something strong or the meta, which leaves untapped potential that goes on for years until a player uses one of them and gets far.
@@bulletcola7890literally. So much whining and no actual training
Except ganon. Cause fuck ganon.
@@bulletcola7890 See: Melee Yoshi
@@mickjaegar2379also see: Ultimate Yoshi.
The funniest thing is he was already the best banjo. He had already made top 8 at two majors before his run at Umebura SP 10.
As a Banjo player myself, I have mad respect for this man because he shows that us Banjo players can really pull off some cool shit
I WAS A BANJO MAIN FROM THE DAY HE WAS FIRST RELEASED AS DLC
AND STILL A BANJO MAIN FOREVER
BANJO FOR LIFE!!!
ME TOO
We're the only real ones y'all 😎 I get packed up almost every game but that doesn't stop me from taking the bear for another go
@@VinnimonCinnimon the Bear and Bird grind never stops
SAME HERE
Same. A dream come true ⭐️
Toriguri is so good, he got 3-0'd by yoshidora and then won 3-1 in the run back
We must’ve watched the same video cuz I think I’ve heard that somewhere
Adaptation is a hell of a drug as they say
I wasn't aware that Banjo stars were rising, hell yeah
It's more so ONE player.
I'm convinced any character can find success in this game given the right player who can mesh with their moveset and attributes and play them at an adept level. I think that's also a crazy sentiment given the previous smash games's history of balancing lol
that simply isn't true nobody is doing anything at top level with dr.mario, ganon, isabelle, mac or ddd. The few that did in the past are falling off for a reason. Low tiers can do well but you're definitely holding yourself back if you play them, if you wanna be good you should be playing characters that are at least mid tier, and if you're playing at top level you should probably have a top/high tier secondary. It's cool banjo got good results, but make no mistake he sucks and you cannot get results with any character in this game, once you get to high level you have to the skill. There's a reason this rarely happens, it's impressive but he also didn't get top 8.
@@nascour5991 There are really good Dr Mario and Little Mac players. JaZaR in Mexico and Tsumusuto in Japan for Doc, and Peanut for Little Mac.
@@nascour5991didnt get results but beat the likes of zomba and yoshidora…
not top 8 YET
@@dean988 i think the downside of this is very akin to yoshi in melee once people figure u out its kinda over for u. yea u can adapt but eventually banjo will just get walled and beaten by stronger and better characters. id say not top 8 YET may sadly be a now or never
@@nascour5991Dr. Mario got into a japanese major top 6
Toriguri is so good.
Toriguri is fucking awesome. Definitely a top ten favorite player for me.
Best Banjo in the world, no debate
@@s-zz I second that
I think people genuinely don't like Banjo because he doesn't have a combo game haha. Like next to nothing true converts into anything. It's very understandable.
But look at him! He's about as fast and heavy as Ridley...without being Ridley! When he dashes he's in someone's face immediately! He doesn't need a good air game or frame data because he's got disjointed moves that cover a bunch of space!
Banjo isn't weak; he just doesn't feel natural to play whatsoever. You need to play neutral as much as a zoner, but without their immediate long-range projectiles. But that doesn't make him bad - just look at his kit!
Banjo needs to be very patient and attack when the opponent makes a mistake or be campy if Banjo can't find an opening. He's kinda like Sonic in a sense.
In Banjo Tooie, boss fights are about running away from the bosses until they expose themselves. It also take about 6 mins to beat the Hag 1 in Banjo Tooie as well.
Also Banjo's nair can sometimes damage characters on shield.
One trick I discovered is that Banjo can edge guard with nair, and if Shockspring jump isn't enough he can use Wonderwing to make it back on stage.
Bruh Banjo just needs to spam eggs and he is a beast
As a Steve main I can't do SH... against Elite Banjos
Ever since Banjo was released he's been my main. I was even lucky enough to get a Banjo amiibo when it released
ayo no cap, i really dont be watching this type of like documentary/video essay type content but you be making these HELLA entertaining and informative so good shit homie :)
I always like seeing a non-meta player find great success, this Banjo player, and a Panda player in Tekken.
I feel like Banjo was the fan-pick for the entire 'primarily English-speaking' parts of the world, not just the US. Remember that Rare is British... and Banjo-Kazooie is very, VERY British.
honestly, despite not having a specific gimmick to him and not being played as much as the other dlc characters, Banjo is still my favorite of the DLC Characters IDC what anyone says
Stop. Sleeping. On. Banjo.
I must be one out of those 3 Banjo mains and I will say, I love the look on people’s faces when I use him and they get spanked. GUHAH🐻😂
It’s absolutely satisfying. Especially when we asked for them to be in the game for a very long time. Sakurai & his team delivered on the presentation & faithfulness to the Banjo Kazooie series. They play so right in Smash Bros.
5:34 this is why we need l4st back, he loved saying futari no kiwami ah~!'s name
This guy shows the potential I see in Banjo when I play him. Watching the footage in this video all I can see is how I play him, but 1000 times better and using up tilts. The bear and bird may not be the best, but this gives me hope that people aren't seeing everything they offer.
For someone who plays casually, it kinda confuses me and seems like everyone just decided universally that he was 'boring' to play. But like, how is he any different to like Mario or Luigi. They have quite simplistic moves in concept, and it's not like Banjo Kazooie was a deep thinker strategy game, it was laid back and simple. What high octane shit were people expecting from this stoner bear? I really enjoy playing him
people expected some gimmick that changes the entire game from every DLC character :/
@@jojostarsea It seems like the people who are mad about it haven't actually played the banjo games haha
@@jojostarsea Banjo needs to be very patient and attack when the opponent makes a mistake or be campy if Banjo can't find an opening. He's kinda like Sonic in a sense.
In Banjo Tooie, boss fights are about running away from the bosses until they expose themselves. It also take about 6 mins to beat the Hag 1 in Banjo Tooie as well.
Also Banjo's nair can sometimes damage characters on shield.
One trick I discovered is that Banjo can edge guard with nair, and if Shockspring jump isn't enough he can use Wonderwing to make it back on stage.
Facts. They are my main for a reason. I wanted Banjo Kazooie for a long time. They are represented and play so faithful from their series. Sakurai and his team delivered. They DO play more traditional, it’s like they are a character that belonged in the base roster many smash games ago.
@@Oscar-Guzman Comparing Banjo to Joker, Terry, and Steve is not a fair comparison. Terry is from a fighting game, Joker is from an RPG, and Steve is from a sandbox game.
Banjo is a platformer, so it makes more sense to compare him to Peach, Luigi and Diddy Kong.
I love your content! Happy to see you’ve started blessing the ultimate community with your amazing storytelling skills!!!
Characters arent bad, just unexplored
Yeah I remembee when people said Steve was bad,
I'm a Banjo Main.
Now yes I don't play ultimate anymore because the online is unplayable.
But I loved banjo for his interesting hybrid play style that allows him to take advantage of projectiles for zoning and Chip damage to build percent well also enabling some really fun combos when you're ready to scrap
I felt that statement at 6:45 in my soul😂
So true 🙃
guys the difference is that one has lowercase p and the other one has uppercase p
Hope the channel works out for you, not sure how much of a big leap you are taking by doing this but by branching out I hope you can connect to more people who enjoy this form of content
I LOVE TURN DOWN FOR ULT!!!💕
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Seriously though Walt by far and away has the best smash ultimate content on YT
Banjo can be amazing online... until your opponent gets a little smart and makes you look like a fool. He's still gonna be my permanent main, cause I voted for him in 2015. 10,000 KOs and counting!
It’s still so weird that after we finally got banjo, the banjo meme stopped. Obviously it stopped because he finally got in, but it was such a big thing in American internet gaming history. K. Rool, Ridley, and banjo were some of the big memes and you’d always hear requests for them and move sets. It’s done now and that’s such a weird thing to me in a way I can’t describe
Banjo needs to be very patient and attack when the opponent makes a mistake or be campy if Banjo can't find an opening. He's kinda like Sonic in a sense.
In Banjo Tooie, boss fights are about running away from the bosses until they expose themselves. It also take about 6 mins to beat the Hag 1 in Banjo Tooie as well.
Also Banjo's nair can sometimes damage characters on shield.
One trick I discovered is that Banjo can edge guard with nair, and if Shockspring jump isn't enough he can use Wonderwing to make it back on stage.
None of them were meme picks though. Remember that Smash's competitive playerbase is a very, VERY small portion of the overall playerbase. The grand majority simply play the game for the casual Nintendo (now video gaming) fighting game crossover. Next to nobody was wanting them in to take them to major competitive events; they wanted them in just so they could be in at all.
She Tori on my guri till I gyuhuh!
Fantastic video walt keep it up +algorithm
I thought Banjo would be one of the better characters after he released. People seemed to think he was good but now think he's mediocre. I still think Banjo's mad underrated.
Agreed. He is like a low high tier (which is like a 40-50 best character) he is just harder than most other characters because of how much more neutral he demands. It makes him a bad secondary and he does not have the match up spread to make it worth trying to pilot him for most people. Japan had mad respect for this character in the 1st tier list. All the other regions just snubbed him from being considered viable.
The problem with banjo is just how clunky he is to play vs other characters. If you didn't need to B reverse every grenade egg or do weird movement to pick it up, you could almost take snake skills and apply them to Banjo and it'd work. But with that move being so integral to his neutral and being one of the clunkiest and different moves to use out of the whole cast, its a problem. Yeah diddy's banana has the same quirk, but diddy can grab it effortlessly with a short hop, while banjo's is a bit too heavy for him and his poor air drift makes it akward.
Add in the long startup and limited use of wonder wing and his very slow drift, and he just feels weird to play. Hes not weak, wonder wing can 2 frame a fair amount of characters for free and guarantee a kill if you manage to get them offstage as early as 50%. (Although not to the top tiers.) but that down B being so clunky really hurts him. The egg would need to bounce higher or come out like snake's B to really see him get more use.
@@archmagemc3561 Banjo needs to be very patient and attack when the opponent makes a mistake or be campy if Banjo can't find an opening. He's kinda like Sonic in a sense.
In Banjo Tooie, boss fights are about running away from the bosses until they expose themselves. It also take about 6 mins to beat the Hag 1 in Banjo Tooie as well.
Also Banjo's nair can sometimes damage characters on shield.
One trick I discovered is that Banjo can edge guard with nair, and if Shockspring jump isn't enough he can use Wonderwing to make it back on stage.
I love how aMSa's victory not only proves Yoshi's (hard earned) viability in Melee, but also illustrates how many fighting game characters that are written off as unviable can win big tournaments in the hands of a master. In that context, it isn't as surprising that someone would get good placements with BK. Still impressive, though.
Everyone: Talking about how underrated Banjo is.
Me: *”..so does this mean we’re not getting Banjo-Threeie or..?”*
Banjo has a lot of tools to mess with Steve.
Love these vids and love jazaras editing
This is the main reason why i only ever agree on top teir placements generally, because i can guarantee you that every good player of an upper low to low high teir character knows the secret sause of their chosen main carries them to a higher spot than anyone gives them credit
Reminds me of a lot of recent Incinaroar potential. Good to see under appreciated character’s be used
TG is proof that Banjo hasn't really been pushed to the level of optimization, but will be the person who pushes him further than anyone else.
Banjo needs to be very patient and attack when the opponent makes a mistake or be campy if Banjo can't find an opening. He's kinda like Sonic in a sense.
In Banjo Tooie, boss fights are about running away from the bosses until they expose themselves. It also take about 6 mins to beat the Hag 1 in Banjo Tooie as well.
Also Banjo's nair can sometimes damage characters on shield.
One trick I discovered is that Banjo can edge guard with nair, and if Shockspring jump isn't enough he can use Wonderwing to make it back on stage.
@orangeslash1667 The way you described Banjo's playstyle just called out my entire playstyle, but I do it with Ike, Roy, and Incineroar.
i wasnt subscribed because i didnt realize you made a 2nd channel for ultimate
I was a day one Banjo main. I mained him through high school, and got my school to 6th in a Utah State tournament in 2021. I was determined to not play campy, and to rarely use wonderwing. Until my hiatus from the game altogether, I mained banjo and pocketed K Rool. Most all my games were played with Banjo, and I saw really good results with Ness, Sonic, Mario, and fellow zoner characters. Really struggled with Roy, Captain Falcon, and oddly enough Donkey Kong. I don't remember the MU chart off the top of my head, but I don't believe it follows those trends really well.
I returned to Smash slightly, but not to the competitive scene. I have not hardly ever touched Banjo since, and almost don't want to. The amount of shit I'd get for playing Banjo, and how limited he sometimes felt with his speed, high-damage, and breathing room really hurt. K Rool became my fulltime main and has been since. I really do miss Banjo a lot, I have a soft spot for him in my heart, and hope he gets a better moveset in the next game. I'm super glad to see someone actually use him too.
6:45 Thank you, Smash fans really need to get called out for this mindset.
As a Dedede main myself, it's so true for him specifically too, since you beat Dedede by playing mindfully and mixing up how you respond to gordo.
People would rather optimize their play on the character select than optimize their play in the actual game, it's very disappointing.
MOOOOORE UltWalt! Great video!!!
6:50 as my local's dedede player, I can sadly say noone needs a secondary for me 😔
When they said bad stuff to Byleth's data overall until Leo picked him up lol
Cosmos has been reduced to the “and more!”
Hi, did you get the tg 11:00 yoshidora set that tg wons?? Also amazing video!!
Where can we find the entire TG vs Zomba set ??
damn, me and tg have a very similar banjo playstyle . maybe i should start competing
I've literally been playing Banjo & Kazooie since their release date lol
It just feels like they were made for me
9:39 not anymore :D
Banjo & Kazooie succeeding makes me very happy :)
ever since i played the character they felt lacking in some areas for sure, but i could never stop playing them and trying to optimize everything possible with them, they're just mad fun
Shout out ristermice for doing a toriguri doc before this (love you still Walt)
Sorta reminds me of Peanut and his main Little Mac ( I'm pretty sure Peanut did actually cause a sensation in smash that little Mac in the right hands is DEVASTATING [ im also pretty sure at the time people wrote off little Mac the end period ] )
Great video!
4:08 that’s all it takes for anything or anyone to succeed
Min-Min is the forgotten dlc
Forgotten? Bruh Elite Smash is FULL of Spam Banjos
As a Steve main this PAINFUL
Skill issue.
From what i’ve seen in the smash community, they just think every character is bad except bowser
As a Banjo main, Guh-hyuck.
I don’t play the character but his inclusion in Smash is everything to me and I’m glad he’s rising!
Go Banjo mains!
Sometimes, all we need is someone’s presence, even if they can’t offer us anything of value the fact that they are here is a value within itself
Then there’s Steve, if we knew what we were getting ourselves into we wouldn’t have been asking for his presence as much as we had been.
Incredibile un video su Cacca Dura
Banjo and Kazooie is one of my mains
Thanks Walter
Plok needs to be in this game
I wish I could forget about Banjo
Banjo is gonna get that aMSa Yoshi treatment
another great vid
pretty sure banjo is larger in europe than in the us
I always hated banjo's inclusion NOT because I hate banjo as a character, but because majority of the people who wanted him, including the "I don't care if he's bad I'll use him" types who just simply dropped him
it was VERY funny to see people totally 180 on him when they found out he was an Okay Zoner Thing and not like. melee fox or whatever people wanted. what DID people want anyway
Honestly Smash Remix Banjo is what I wanted Smash Ultimate Banjo to be, don't get me wrong, I bought a Switch and Smash Ultimate because of Banjo's inclusion in the first place and I still main them and love playing as them, but if Ultimate Banjo was more like Smash Remix Banjo I'd probably play Ultimate way more.
@@MexicanSheepMan Banjo needs to be very patient and attack when the opponent makes a mistake or be campy if Banjo can't find an opening. He's kinda like Sonic in a sense.
In Banjo Tooie, boss fights are about running away from the bosses until they expose themselves. It also take about 6 mins to beat the Hag 1 in Banjo Tooie as well.
Also Banjo's nair can sometimes damage characters on shield. Breegul Blaster is very good for dealing pressure.
One trick I discovered is that Banjo can edge guard with nair, and if Shockspring jump isn't enough he can use Wonderwing to make it back on stage.
so cool
I got all of them and I'm good with all of them
Im a banjo main,i was inspired by a godlike amiibo of mine
I think the reason that Banjo gets slept on is because he's not as bombastically and click-baitingly overtuned as say, Joker or Steve. It's nice to see that Toriguri is finally getting people to notice the bear & bird and explore their potential.
Banjo needs to be very patient and attack when the opponent makes a mistake or be campy if Banjo can't find an opening. He's kinda like Sonic in a sense.
In Banjo Tooie, boss fights are about running away from the bosses until they expose themselves. It also take about 6 mins to beat the Hag 1 in Banjo Tooie as well.
Also Banjo's nair can sometimes damage characters on shield.
One trick I discovered is that Banjo can edge guard with nair, and if Shockspring jump isn't enough he can use Wonderwing to make it back on stage.
@@orangeslash1667 That's actually an amazing way to describe Banjo's playstyle, yeah!
Adding to that he doesn’t have much gimmicks to his fighting style as a DLC character but Wonder wing. He plays faithful to the game series. Banjo & Kazooie play traditional like they were meant to be in the base smash roster many games ago. That’s why I love the way they play. Banjo Kazooie main here from Day 1.
@@Oscar-Guzman Most DLC characters are from fighting games or RPG's. Banjo is from a platformer, the genre is known for running, jumping, and exploring. So it makes more sense to compare Banjo to say Peach, Sonic, and Diddy Kong.
Plant is the forgotten and its not close.
Bro if Mithra and pyra can be separate and most occasions cuz nobody knows what their God damn sword is called then at least you can do is to keep the name Benjo Kazooie and say they because Benjo only half the move set.
I main banjo, and my secondary? PIRANHA PLANT
BK were the only good DLC choices because they're the only ones who look like they even FIT in Smash Bros. I guess Xenoblade girls and Byleth kinda fit too, but those were wasted slots more than anything.
BTW, BK are UK creations, so if anything it's for us Brits and not you yanks.
I honestly think Banjo has the most unlocked potential than any character in the game. I wish a top player would pick him up and put the time I have into Banjo, over 6k matches online, then see the results! I’ve sadly never played an offline match with Banjo 😢
I Appreciate the video but people overrate how bad Banjo actually is. I know a high level Banjo player who would agree that Banjo does well against R.O.B. Min Min and Sonic.
Banjo needs to be very patient and attack when the opponent makes a mistake or be campy if Banjo can't find an opening. He's kinda like Sonic in a sense.
In Banjo Tooie, boss fights are about running away from the bosses until they expose themselves. It also take about 6 mins to beat the Hag 1 in Banjo Tooie as well.
Also Banjo's nair can sometimes damage characters on shield.
One trick I discovered is that Banjo can edge guard with nair, and if Shockspring jump isn't enough he can use Wonderwing to make it back on stage.
That's my main!
TG has also beaten Muteace, fyi.
Joever and Midooie
It sucks that the only DLC to not get DLC privilege was the one that deserved it most
Banjo needs to be very patient and attack when the opponent makes a mistake or be campy if Banjo can't find an opening. He's kinda like Sonic in a sense.
In Banjo Tooie, boss fights are about running away from the bosses until they expose themselves. It also take about 6 mins to beat the Hag 1 in Banjo Tooie as well.
Also Banjo's nair can sometimes damage characters on shield.
One trick I discovered is that Banjo can edge guard with nair, and if Shockspring jump isn't enough he can use Wonderwing to make it back on stage.
6:45 lmfao
7:56 LMAOOO POOR JAKAL 😭
He DQ'd from Umebura and went to LMBM, it's why he wasn't mentioned.
@@SeriousStriker Oooh, I thought they were just joking cuz he's a writer for this channel
Phenomenal video I loved it… except it’s about banjo… ( Jokes aside it was still great happy for TG)
Piranha Plant is so bad and forgettable that people forget to mention him when talking about bad and forgettable smash fighters
Bro I'm a banjo kazooie main
How could Europe not like Banjo? He was created in Europe.
Banjo needs to be very patient and attack when the opponent makes a mistake or be campy if Banjo can't find an opening. He's kinda like Sonic in a sense.
In Banjo Tooie, boss fights are about running away from the bosses until they expose themselves. It also take about 6 mins to beat the Hag 1 in Banjo Tooie as well.
Also Banjo's nair can sometimes damage characters on shield.
One trick I discovered is that Banjo can edge guard with nair, and if Shockspring jump isn't enough he can use Wonderwing to make it back on stage.
🔥🔥🔥
I still use Banjo all the times
Makes me chuckle when a character that has been requested for more than a decade is just forgotten just like that because of how bad they are in the actual game. Funny
It's almost as if their home series didn't really work well in terms of translating it to a fighting game
Joker from pedosona is in smash= epic fail
Banjo, Steve and Sora were the best ones.
Nice title change
banjo kazooie? ok
Which DLC character do you think would shock the world at a Japanese supermajor? *lists the 3 best characters in the game*