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Sorry Pup but did you have to say that this game was treated like it was a ''redheaded stepchild''? It's not very nice, how is a redheaded stepchild a bad thing? They're children who don't deserve to be treated badly even if they are stepchildren with ginger hair that would be abusive
@@cliffturbo2146 it was basically the same as black knight almost everything was great but the gameplay because it was on wii i blame it on Nintendo tho
@@lwetho1519 No. Literally, the game would have functioned completely differently had it not been forced into a Wii U exclusive. The game was made using an engine incompatible with the Wii U, and intended for consoles far more powerful. The fact the game runs at all and was finished to some extent is a testament to the skill of the programmers at BigRedButton. Unfortunately nobody knows about the behind the scenes stuff so people just rag on the game and its programmers, when in reality, SEGA/Sonic Team deserve all the vitriol for the state of the game.
Honestly love this game. I understand the momentum argument (though it was never particularly important to me), and not every level's a winner, but despite all that the parkour gameplay is *really* fun. And I just felt that the levels that do land, really stick that landing.
Even if they did make one, don't expect games like Shadow, 06, or Unleashed to show up. They delisted them due to bad reviews, so they won't touch them outside of references in other games. It's another example of SEGA bowing to 'fan' pressure.
Parkour gameplay elements very much do have a place in Sonic games. It almost seems like a perfect match. Yet because it failed in Lost World, I doubt they'll ever try it again.
Nobody forgets Lost World because SoA refuses to let us forget by continuously Forcing Zavok into the games. The games SoA wants us to forget are Sonic Chronicles & Sonic 4.
I really want to play the Sonic Rivals series, and for those who don't have a PSP we could ask SEGA to port the Rivals series to Steam, Ian Flynn literally said he had this idea on Twitter.
When you showed the gameplay from cobanermani456 I got so sad. I remember watching him and he was my childhood. He will always be special to me. Keep up the great vids man. You deserve all the love
Every game where Sonic has technically a Boost ability before Unleashed Sonic R - 1997 Sonic Advance 2 - 2003 Sonic Rush - 2005 Sonic Rivals - 2006 Sonic Rush Adventure - 2007 Sonic Rivals 2 - 2007
When this game came out, I had really mixed feelings on it. But after playing it a second time, I started to actually enjoyed it despite its flaws. And wow this game is so colorful and pretty.
back In 2017, I remember that I was really excited to play this game, because it was on PC and it seemed to be my favorite pretty unique. I enjoyed playing this game quite a lot, the parkour is something I wanted SEGA to keep evolving, just so that we have a slower, but still a fast-paced 3D sonic game. Hopefully, it can happen
Awful Frame Sonic To be fair I’m sure in Japan you will find they would use that type of language in the games but when it comes here it gets taken out. Especially in Sonic X. Sonic swears pretty much at the start in the Japanese version 😂
This game has the steepest learning curve of all 3d sonic games imo: hence why the more i play it, the more i get good, the more i love it, the more this game is close to the top 3 fav sonic games. EVERYTHING has to be discovered. The spindash, the parkour, the homing attack, they all have different types of use. For example, the parkour is simply pressing ZR facing a wall, but you can improve it by using the spindash with the right timing and side stepping if you're facing a vertical wall. Beautiful!
That seems to me counterintuitive to their desire to attract the Mario market by taking so much inspiration from the Galaxy games. Mario's best titles have been easy to learn + hard to master.
@@ahmadkazan7994 Now don't insult the classics like there just look what there did to the nightmare of Metropolis zone the Slicer there turned him into a complete caricature of it self and the same goes for pretty much all the classic imagery that took for lost worlds. Beside Sonic 3 has a better overall story than lost worlds anyway.
Sonic Lost World huh? I suppose it was pretty overlooked, but I was kind of thinking something along the lines of "Sonic and The Dark Brotherhood" or "Sonic Rush" and "Sonic Rush Adventure." Perhaps even "Sonic and the Black Knight."
Honestly, i'd recommend giving the 3DS version a try when you get a chance. It's my personal favorite of the two versions despite the issues mostly since I feel like it had overall the more fun level design and stages. Yeah it has some stinkers in there (like the snowball level which will instantly make you shut up about the wii u one being bad when you play this one) but i'd even say that it overall made better use of it's parkour mechanics and has one of the best final stages in the series before the final boss. It also just had a lot of neat extras in it like having actual special stages with the sonic 1 requirements of getting in them and despite the awkward control of those (which I never had an issue with because I played the game sitting on a swivel chair) it's up there with the sonic mania special stages as a favorite of mine. Plus, the hard mode was pretty nice even though I would've preferred just getting more extra stages. It has a pretty big learning curve though since sonic's air control is as slippery as butter on ice and takes a lot of getting used to compared to how snappy he is in the wii u version. Plus, while i'd say the 2D sections in the game are handled better (somewhat helped by the fact that sonic has faster movement and his jumps carry him better) they still aren't anything to write home about. Bosses are pretty sweet overall but unfortunately the final boss is still egg nega wisp version infinity .
Sonic really has a staggering amount of Good to Okay games in the series. Kinda makes sense why they're so easily forgotten. They're not good or bad enough.
And it also raised the game from E10+ to T rated. Really shows the writers had no idea how to carry a tone. Just look up the scene Tails gets caught, how the character's personalities do a 180, and then the cut scene just ends. What!? Plus the random banter in the game is just awful.
@@Orange_Swirl Truth You can't defend Lost World as a faithful Sonic game that respects the core idea of the franchise It's a budget mario game and that has been proved many times
8:55 "This is the closest it gets to feeling like a Sonic game" You can't be more wrong. Sonic didn't even have the boost before Sonic Unleashed (or Sonic Rush). So, the lack of a boost doesn't make the games feel less like a Sonic game. The spindash was the boost but it had a better purpose in the classic games. In Sonic Adventure you can spam it, something fixed in Sonic Adventure 2. Looks like you like the games that are "boost to win" to feel it like a Sonic game. Sonic's speed is about your momentum, not about pressing a button (That's why I don't like to have a run button in Sonic Lost World).
So what?Spindash was in lost world and it was heavily required,exactly like the adventure games.No,sonic was all about burst speed and quick reflexes,that's why sonic isn't considered a platform like mario or Megaman.
@@ahmadkazan7994 Wrong. Sonic's been about speed yes, but also platforming and exploration. Using only speed to make a Sonic game is having a wrong concept about Sonic. Look at Sonic Advance 2 or Sonic Forces. Those games only use the speed of Sonic and the rest is 99% gone. "Heavily required like the adventure games" I used the spindash in the 3 games, but it was barely required.
I honestly enjoy this game for what it is... it's definitely not my favorite Sonic game, but I still really appreciate that they tried to change up the core gameplay to make this one stand out from the others. Compared to Forces, this one just feels more... unique. And functional. :P And as someone who played it on Wii U, I didn't find the controls to be a problem? Although the Gamepad is probably my favorite controller, so that might be a part of it lol
So...I have a kind of weird input on this, I guess. I’ve always struggled with Sonic gameplay. As much as I’ve wanted to get into the series, I just never quite was able to adapt to the massive speed that was so intrinsic to the game design. Sonic Lost world made me feel a little more welcome. To be honest? Though the entire franchise still needs a massive tonal overhaul plot-wise, I think if they wanted to do an AU Sonic experience, they should have built on this play style, not tried to create Sonic Boom. That way they could have the core, traditional speed based games for long time fans and also a separate Sonic franchise that was a sort of middle ground where people like me could feel more comfortable. I do wish they’d go back to the pre-2010s tone though. I always loved it when Sonic got dark. Sonic 06 actually had a ton of great ideas in its plot (Princess Elise was not one of them) that were really engaging and it’s sad that Sega and Sonic Team have gone so far in the other direction. Sonic Forces tried, but just couldn’t commit.
Well said, I want a return to form for 3D Sonic like what we got in the Adventure Games in Story, Characterization, & Gameplay. The 2010s Direction for the series was cancerous to Sonic & reduced it instantly to the joke of the gaming industry. I agree that 06 had a lot of great ideas & if it were a finished produced named Sonic Adventure 3 complete with Chao Gardens it would be considered the best game in the Sonic Series. Trying to avoid everything that 06 did right, led the series to it's worst decade. The real problem is Sega of America who never should have been left in charge of the series after Yuji Naka left. SoA insists on giving us a silly animal cartoon instead of the Shonen Anime tone the series is supposed to have.
@@WaterKirby1994 I mean its not like the Japanese front does it currently any better with Iizuka openly admitting that he let Colors and Lost world design to appeal to General Nintendo and Mario fans rather than Sonic fans AND Sega of Japan even giving Pontact and Graff the level of input there had (to the point of allowing them to completely write Lost worlds)(while also advising them to not do to much research on the series). Lets not kid our self here Sega as a whole is a pretty incompetent company no matter if SoA purposefully killing the Saturn or SoJ forcing impossible deadlines on there teams. I only can't really say anything about SoE as there usually don't have enough power in the overall Sega Sammy company to do much of anything.
I'm gonna call back to what you said and put the correct names in. So here we have Satan (Zavok) himself, old guy (Master Zik), Wild Card (Zazz), Fat Dude (Zomnom), Angst (Zor) and Girl (Zeena).
I find it funny how people say the yeti or the deadly six don’t fit in a sonic story and that’s not true they just weren’t written well - ya know what doesn’t fit in a story ? Marvel in phineas and ferb they just don’t belong in this goofy world
The ONE thing that needs to be taken, without question, from Sonic Lost World is the "Hold R to run" idea (even though it wasn't implemented correctly). It should control like a platformer under normal control, and then play like a racing game when you're hitting the gas.
I disagree. The idea of Sonic is being like a Mario game without holding the run button meaning you gain speed as a reward and of course, using the rolling abilities.
I actually think that sonic lost world is not a bad sonic game. I enjoyed it for the most part. And the exploration makes the game more replayable. I would rate the game an 8 out of 10.
Sonic Lost World was actually my first 3D Sonic game, my 1st Sonic game being Sonic 1, 2, 3 & Knuckles on that weird Sonic games collection on the DS. I had Lost World on the 3DS and, in all honesty, I thought it was fun! I had looked up videos about sonic since i had gotten that DS Sonic Game and lost world reminds me a lot of the cancelled Sonic game, Sonic X-Treme, even down to some of its early concept plots. Then when I finally got a PC, I got Lost World on Steam. It was just as good as the 3ds version. I just think its a fun game, even if the story kinda stinks (so does that Casino Level, dear god, never again).
Honestly, all of the Sonic games considered bad or mediocre by many have so many good ideas and a new game based on any of them could be fantastic if they would just trim the fat and polish it. It worked for the Unleashed/Boost gameplay (cut the fat of the werehog and focused the gameplay more), so why wouldn’t it work for Secret Rings/Black Knight, Sonic Lost World, or Forces? For Secret Rings, remove the motion controls and focus on the constant forward motion and spectacle of the levels, and just make it highly intense and fun to try and get higher and higher scores (sort of like Sonic Dash, but way more movement based and not infinite). For Lost World, polish up that gameplay and maybe add some momentum and maybe more jump abilities, ditch the Galaxy-esque level design, make the parkour more intuitive, and focus on making a bunch of fun and explorable platformer stages that are fun to speed run, or just make it a flat out Sonic-ified collectathon (I would love a Sonic collectathon). For Forces, well, just make a spin-off based purely on the Avatar and make it more platformer based. If I had to guess what we are going to get next for the 30th Anniversary game, other than a Mania 2/new Classic Sonic game, I would guess it would take the Lost World gameplay and refine it, making it feel more like a Sonic gameplay style. I’m hoping Modern Sonic will be the only Sonic playable, but I could very well see them just throwing him in there because they feel like they have to. Assuming they don’t do that, and we have Modern Sonic with refined Lost World mechanics and gameplay, then I think that they will try and go mostly 3D with the gameplay. I could see these really intricate, non gravity based, platforming stages with plenty of secrets to find and alternate routes to explore (sort of like the 3D sections of Generations but more Platforming centric). I think the art style will likely continue the LW/Forces trend with its own little flare. As for other playable characters, I think it’s very likely we could see the Avatar again with more robust and varied wispons and customization options. I would welcome this, but I would personally rather see Knuckles or Tails playable, and they very well could be if Sonic Team follows Mania’s example. Speaking of that, I think they may try to do exactly that, having a Special Stage and all, but I still think we will see things like Wisp power ups and stuff a lot of people don’t want. In terms of story, I have no idea. If they’re smart they’ll get Ian Flynn but that likely won’t happen. Still for a big anniversary title, I’m sure we will get something interesting out of the story. That’s basically what I think the best case scenario is for the next game, and if that ends up being the case I’ll happily take it because that sounds like it could be a really awesome experience. But for all I know, it could be the start of a completely new era for Sonic. Yah never know when they’ll try a completely new artstyles, playstyles, and story telling, but that could just be me. Next year will surely be a year to remember for Sonic at the very least.
Good to know I'm not the only one who likes this game. It's not spectacular, but I had a pretty good time with it. I'd still much rather play Colors or Generations, but this was a better experience than Forces.
Fact: the only people who like sonic games are the one's owning it and the haters are the 5 y.o who saw a bad review and thing that its cool saying that a game is bad. And well TH-camrs own the game but they want to agree with their fans so they trash the game too
Lost world is to modern sonic what heroes was to adventure sonic. A weird game that completely got rid of gameplay people loved, and is equally hated or loved by quite a few fans, with many more just being like "Eh, it's alright" lol
I remember my dad telling me this was coming out and me being super excited and well that years Christmas I got the game for ds and also got a poster for it
I don't think lost world is a bad game honestly. I don't own a Wii U but my cousin does so when ever I went to his house we'll play together games. Sometimes even let me play alone. One of the games that he owned was sonic lost world. Before seeing on his shelf I've never heard about that game before. At point I was familiar with the franchise. I watched sonic X, play sonic generations. So I asked if I can play it. He said yes. what I discovered was one of my favourite games (at the time) I liked the music, the cutscenes(I thought they were hilarious as a kid) I really liked the levels too!
Sonic Lost world is the greatest example of misreading the room ever, Gens had people excited for Sonic games again and hopefully the best boost game ever and Izuka was like "nah modern boost Sonic is not what we want or need" completely ignoring the massive signs saying "yes More Sonic Gens stuff DLC or new boost game plz"
And then Forces happened and we know the results. I think they did it right with Lost World when talking about gameplay. Of course, the game's not perfect but at least we got something new and they do it better mostly when they ignore most of the toxic fans.
I’ll be honest I have sonic lost world on my 3ds and I recently got it on my Wii u. The 3ds version isn’t that good but I think that the wii u version isn’t that bad actually. There was a lack of momentum at times but I don’t think it’s a bad sonic game. I see what SEGA we’re trying to do with this game, they just wanted basically a sonic colours 2. I love the non-stop speed levels even though there is only like 2 levels which have that as the full level. I don’t think lost world deserves all the hate it gets.
Imo i think sonic lost world was a fun game Yeah the story could of been better but other than that gameplay was fun music was great like always I liked the parcour system
3:16 I always find it funny how one-sided this team-up really is, Eggman joining forces with sonic doesn't seem to add anything to the story or gameplay at all, and its always remind me of Ratchet & Clank: All4one which in my opinion did a better job when the villain forced to team-up with the heroes on both gameplay and story.
This game makes me feel like Sonic Team should just not make Sonic games I mean, how many times did Pup say something like "this doesn't feel like Sonic"? It's okay to come up with new IPs, guys
Sonic is 19x the person that you will ever be, leave noel alone, he is a gentleman he has done so much for the fandom. Get a grip of yourself Johnathon you are putting your family honor at risk.
With dialogue, from what I've seen of the Japanese dub, with subtitles that are true to the Japanese voice acting and not just dubtitles for the English one, it does seem better. Like take the "Do you know how much that bites!?" scene for example. th-cam.com/video/VSuL3cdYoTQ/w-d-xo.html Though saying that, the Japanese dialogue does seem to be better compared to what we're getting these days when you have actual proper subtitles. Like there's no "this blue hedgehog's going to fed you your car!" in the Japanese Team Sonic Racing, which really does just make Sonic seem like a jerk. th-cam.com/video/6JdSFCY7R0o/w-d-xo.html
I thing its worth noting that Colors and lost worlds scripts were written first into English and afterwards translated and changed for the Japanese release.
Now that game was a nightmare. But cobi456 made it much better of him reacting of his game giving an error every time. What I meant is this video: th-cam.com/video/tdAf_g3sDlI/w-d-xo.html
I think calling this "The Forgotten Sonic Game" is a bit of an exaggeration. If anything, this game is engraved in most people's memory due to this game's questionable gameplay and story. Plus, being a follow-up game to Generations probably hyped people up before they even knew what this game was going to be.
I love sonic game hopefully than make a good sonic game because sonic is a video game franchise and I look forward to seeing sonic the hedgehog movie 2 and we going to talis will meet sonic and I what to see knuckles in the film and more sonic character
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I love for you to do sonic boom rise of lyric
I do not have patreon.
You LOST the perfect opportunity to title this video as "The Lost Sonic game"
Sorry Pup but did you have to say that this game was treated like it was a ''redheaded stepchild''? It's not very nice, how is a redheaded stepchild a bad thing? They're children who don't deserve to be treated badly even if they are stepchildren with ginger hair that would be abusive
@@johnpauldarbyshire3712
I understand what you mean.
R.I.P sonic and the secret rings and tails sky patrol
Sonic and the secret rings is still remembered.
@@cliffturbo2146 it was basically the same as black knight almost everything was great but the gameplay because it was on wii i blame it on Nintendo tho
Secret ringw is not forgotten, the tails games however...
@@silviox8637 is there a tails game?
@@kitthecat6557 Yup, there are 2 games for the game Gear: Tails Skypatrol and Tails Adventure
The 3-game deal SEGA made with Nintendo is the entire reason Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric was so bad.
Jep. Witsh is sad. I really like the comics and the show of Sonic Boom and a "Deadpool like" Sonic Game? Hell yeah! I hope Sonic Boom is not dead.
They really shouldn't have made that deal.
Sega makes stupid decisions.
Yeah, if it was for any other console, Rise of Lyric would have least looked good
@@lwetho1519 No.
Literally, the game would have functioned completely differently had it not been forced into a Wii U exclusive.
The game was made using an engine incompatible with the Wii U, and intended for consoles far more powerful. The fact the game runs at all and was finished to some extent is a testament to the skill of the programmers at BigRedButton.
Unfortunately nobody knows about the behind the scenes stuff so people just rag on the game and its programmers, when in reality, SEGA/Sonic Team deserve all the vitriol for the state of the game.
I've never been a big fan of sonic but your sonic videos have really intrigued me to give them a try thanks😁
I recommend sonic mania, sonic adventures series,sonic generations
And if you don't care that much for the story try sonic colors it has fun gameplay
@@hussainn.al-saeed4971 thanks for the recommendation mate
Also, don’t get into the fanbase. Just play the good games. That’s it!
@@PeopleWithPlushies i aggre and disaggre with the comunity
Yes, its fucked up, but there are some good people, you just gotta new where to find them
@@waxenpolecat24 anytime
Honestly love this game. I understand the momentum argument (though it was never particularly important to me), and not every level's a winner, but despite all that the parkour gameplay is *really* fun.
And I just felt that the levels that do land, really stick that landing.
Sega just needs to have a sonic collection on current consoles
Even if they did make one, don't expect games like Shadow, 06, or Unleashed to show up. They delisted them due to bad reviews, so they won't touch them outside of references in other games.
It's another example of SEGA bowing to 'fan' pressure.
@Oh it’s that guy! i would try colors and unleashed a try because I never had a wii or ps3/xbox 360 :(
@@LiveHedgehog I think SEGA should remake those games,those games seriously need a remake
@@LiveHedgehog they should include them (not 06) unleashed was amazing and the quality and cgi was amazing for its time
@@raptorzeraora2632 In order to put 06 they really need to remake and finish lots of parts of the game.
Parkour gameplay elements very much do have a place in Sonic games. It almost seems like a perfect match. Yet because it failed in Lost World, I doubt they'll ever try it again.
it actally worked in the 3DS version.
When you said forgotten, I was assuming you meant Sonic Rivals! Lost World isn’t really the forgotten one...
Yeah I don't think SLW is forgotten since I play it alot.
@@ichikoo398 I think he meant community wise, just because you haven't forgotten dosen't mean everyone else has :/
@@comicarlton I know-
Nobody forgets Lost World because SoA refuses to let us forget by continuously Forcing Zavok into the games. The games SoA wants us to forget are Sonic Chronicles & Sonic 4.
I really want to play the Sonic Rivals series, and for those who don't have a PSP we could ask SEGA to port the Rivals series to Steam, Ian Flynn literally said he had this idea on Twitter.
The forgotten Sonic game?
Don't you mean the LOST Sonic game!
😃😃😃
When you said it's forgotten. I remember this for a long time.
When you showed the gameplay from cobanermani456 I got so sad. I remember watching him and he was my childhood. He will always be special to me. Keep up the great vids man. You deserve all the love
At least he found his Dad. I can die in peace, now.
Love that man.
This game is criminally underrated IMO
Every game where Sonic has technically a Boost ability before Unleashed
Sonic R - 1997
Sonic Advance 2 - 2003
Sonic Rush - 2005
Sonic Rivals - 2006
Sonic Rush Adventure - 2007
Sonic Rivals 2 - 2007
When this game came out, I had really mixed feelings on it. But after playing it a second time, I started to actually enjoyed it despite its flaws. And wow this game is so colorful and pretty.
Yeah, it was because they wanted Mario fans to join.
So...when I played it, it felt like a Mario game.
back In 2017, I remember that I was really excited to play this game, because it was on PC and it seemed to be my favorite pretty unique. I enjoyed playing this game quite a lot, the parkour is something I wanted SEGA to keep evolving, just so that we have a slower, but still a fast-paced 3D sonic game. Hopefully, it can happen
In the Japanese version Zazz said “go to hell”
We are seeing Shadow the hedgehog level of edginess right here.
Awful Frame Sonic To be fair I’m sure in Japan you will find they would use that type of language in the games but when it comes here it gets taken out. Especially in Sonic X. Sonic swears pretty much at the start in the Japanese version 😂
This game has the steepest learning curve of all 3d sonic games imo: hence why the more i play it, the more i get good, the more i love it, the more this game is close to the top 3 fav sonic games. EVERYTHING has to be discovered. The spindash, the parkour, the homing attack, they all have different types of use. For example, the parkour is simply pressing ZR facing a wall, but you can improve it by using the spindash with the right timing and side stepping if you're facing a vertical wall. Beautiful!
That seems to me counterintuitive to their desire to attract the Mario market by taking so much inspiration from the Galaxy games. Mario's best titles have been easy to learn + hard to master.
@@christiannorton9400 not really,sonic adventure was easy to learn hard to master,lost world was a classic game in full 3D.
@@ahmadkazan7994 Now don't insult the classics like there just look what there did to the nightmare of Metropolis zone the Slicer there turned him into a complete caricature of it self and the same goes for pretty much all the classic imagery that took for lost worlds.
Beside Sonic 3 has a better overall story than lost worlds anyway.
I like Sonic Lost World if they fleshed out the parkour and level design then it will be the perfected adventure style game
Sonic Lost World huh? I suppose it was pretty overlooked, but I was kind of thinking something along the lines of "Sonic and The Dark Brotherhood" or "Sonic Rush" and "Sonic Rush Adventure." Perhaps even "Sonic and the Black Knight."
One thing i remember from the game was we got sonics most savage line "what i ment is that I'm sorry that you have nothing better to do in your life".
I had this game on Wii U I thought it was pretty fun but nothing special.
I like how I just played this under 30 minutes ago. The REAL forgotten game is all the sonic boom ones
I really liked the parkour in this game, and I feel like it could work well in a boost game.
Honestly, i'd recommend giving the 3DS version a try when you get a chance. It's my personal favorite of the two versions despite the issues mostly since I feel like it had overall the more fun level design and stages. Yeah it has some stinkers in there (like the snowball level which will instantly make you shut up about the wii u one being bad when you play this one) but i'd even say that it overall made better use of it's parkour mechanics and has one of the best final stages in the series before the final boss. It also just had a lot of neat extras in it like having actual special stages with the sonic 1 requirements of getting in them and despite the awkward control of those (which I never had an issue with because I played the game sitting on a swivel chair) it's up there with the sonic mania special stages as a favorite of mine. Plus, the hard mode was pretty nice even though I would've preferred just getting more extra stages.
It has a pretty big learning curve though since sonic's air control is as slippery as butter on ice and takes a lot of getting used to compared to how snappy he is in the wii u version. Plus, while i'd say the 2D sections in the game are handled better (somewhat helped by the fact that sonic has faster movement and his jumps carry him better) they still aren't anything to write home about. Bosses are pretty sweet overall but unfortunately the final boss is still egg nega wisp version infinity .
Sonic really has a staggering amount of Good to Okay games in the series. Kinda makes sense why they're so easily forgotten. They're not good or bad enough.
I'm sure Sonic Drift and Shuffle are more forgotten than this lol
The scene with egg man smashing the ice was so left field, like where did that even come from
And it also raised the game from E10+ to T rated. Really shows the writers had no idea how to carry a tone. Just look up the scene Tails gets caught, how the character's personalities do a 180, and then the cut scene just ends. What!? Plus the random banter in the game is just awful.
Sonic Lost World is actually a masterpiece in my opinion!
Idk man there's better Mario games out there
HAAAAAAAAAA
Funny joke there, brother.
same
@@Orange_Swirl stfu its called a opinion
@@Orange_Swirl Truth
You can't defend Lost World as a faithful Sonic game that respects the core idea of the franchise
It's a budget mario game and that has been proved many times
noone forgot about this game, we just chose not to talk about it
Never Forgot About it. As a matter of fact, I'm quite Fond of it.
It's not that we forgot, we just would rather we didn't remember lmao
Lol
The only thing that's "forgotten" are the names of the one-dimensional Zetis.
ZAVOK
ZAZZ
ZEENA
ZOMON
ZOR
ZIK
I remember Zazz, Zeena, and Zavok, but yeah, I blanked on the other 3.
I remember Zazz more, because of Sonic Dash, and I love Jazz 🎷🎷
8:55 "This is the closest it gets to feeling like a Sonic game"
You can't be more wrong. Sonic didn't even have the boost before Sonic Unleashed (or Sonic Rush). So, the lack of a boost doesn't make the games feel less like a Sonic game. The spindash was the boost but it had a better purpose in the classic games. In Sonic Adventure you can spam it, something fixed in Sonic Adventure 2. Looks like you like the games that are "boost to win" to feel it like a Sonic game. Sonic's speed is about your momentum, not about pressing a button (That's why I don't like to have a run button in Sonic Lost World).
So what?Spindash was in lost world and it was heavily required,exactly like the adventure games.No,sonic was all about burst speed and quick reflexes,that's why sonic isn't considered a platform like mario or Megaman.
@@ahmadkazan7994 Wrong. Sonic's been about speed yes, but also platforming and exploration. Using only speed to make a Sonic game is having a wrong concept about Sonic. Look at Sonic Advance 2 or Sonic Forces. Those games only use the speed of Sonic and the rest is 99% gone. "Heavily required like the adventure games" I used the spindash in the 3 games, but it was barely required.
When your losing momentum when wall running you can use the spin dash to speed you back up
Sonic Lost world is inspired by Sonic X-Treme. Not just Mario Galaxy
I've played this game on both the Wii U and steam and I have to say its that oddball Sonic game that I I genuinely enjoy. Despite the short comings
The 2010s were more of a dark age than 05 to 08 was
I honestly enjoy this game for what it is... it's definitely not my favorite Sonic game, but I still really appreciate that they tried to change up the core gameplay to make this one stand out from the others. Compared to Forces, this one just feels more... unique. And functional. :P
And as someone who played it on Wii U, I didn't find the controls to be a problem? Although the Gamepad is probably my favorite controller, so that might be a part of it lol
I like how TH-cam needed to highlight “people also watched this video”
Kinda underrated game ngl
So...I have a kind of weird input on this, I guess. I’ve always struggled with Sonic gameplay. As much as I’ve wanted to get into the series, I just never quite was able to adapt to the massive speed that was so intrinsic to the game design. Sonic Lost world made me feel a little more welcome. To be honest? Though the entire franchise still needs a massive tonal overhaul plot-wise, I think if they wanted to do an AU Sonic experience, they should have built on this play style, not tried to create Sonic Boom. That way they could have the core, traditional speed based games for long time fans and also a separate Sonic franchise that was a sort of middle ground where people like me could feel more comfortable. I do wish they’d go back to the pre-2010s tone though. I always loved it when Sonic got dark. Sonic 06 actually had a ton of great ideas in its plot (Princess Elise was not one of them) that were really engaging and it’s sad that Sega and Sonic Team have gone so far in the other direction. Sonic Forces tried, but just couldn’t commit.
Well said, I want a return to form for 3D Sonic like what we got in the Adventure Games in Story, Characterization, & Gameplay. The 2010s Direction for the series was cancerous to Sonic & reduced it instantly to the joke of the gaming industry. I agree that 06 had a lot of great ideas & if it were a finished produced named Sonic Adventure 3 complete with Chao Gardens it would be considered the best game in the Sonic Series. Trying to avoid everything that 06 did right, led the series to it's worst decade. The real problem is Sega of America who never should have been left in charge of the series after Yuji Naka left. SoA insists on giving us a silly animal cartoon instead of the Shonen Anime tone the series is supposed to have.
@@WaterKirby1994 I mean its not like the Japanese front does it currently any better with Iizuka openly admitting that he let Colors and Lost world design to appeal to General Nintendo and Mario fans rather than Sonic fans AND Sega of Japan even giving Pontact and Graff the level of input there had (to the point of allowing them to completely write Lost worlds)(while also advising them to not do to much research on the series).
Lets not kid our self here Sega as a whole is a pretty incompetent company no matter if SoA purposefully killing the Saturn or SoJ forcing impossible deadlines on there teams.
I only can't really say anything about SoE as there usually don't have enough power in the overall Sega Sammy company to do much of anything.
Sega needs to go back to the adventure style and they need to make Sonic Adventure 3.
with the parkour system.
Most underrated TH-camr in my opinion.
I'm gonna call back to what you said and put the correct names in.
So here we have Satan (Zavok) himself, old guy (Master Zik), Wild Card (Zazz), Fat Dude (Zomnom), Angst (Zor) and Girl (Zeena).
I wouldn't say that it's forgotten, but ok. I played it on my 2ds and tbh I really liked it.
0:35 Actually, it was Sonic Rush.
I honestly liked Sonic Lost World
The Levels were unique. His controls were pretty decent.
Yes I agree
Think I remember this one
I find it funny how people say the yeti or the deadly six don’t fit in a sonic story and that’s not true they just weren’t written well - ya know what doesn’t fit in a story ? Marvel in phineas and ferb they just don’t belong in this goofy world
Zeti*.
@@bakedbeans5494 🙃
0:22
Now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time...a long time.
God I miss the Skadooshinator.
Eggman's angry speech to the Zeti is the most threatening I think we've ever heard Mike Pollock. So props for that.
Funny that for many ability Sonic has, Super Smash Bro Ultimate still struggle to get his abilities right
Agreed,shakuria just won't listen.
I haven't played the wii u or steam but I have played the 3ds lost world and I love it
Sonic Lost World= 2022= Sonic Lost Game
Who forgot this game? It wasn't even that long ago?
Me: *sees title*
Also me: yeah ok but which one
I really like Sonic Lost World gameplay. We need this or something similar instead of "boost to win" games that are too boring.
@@LUNA-zn7ep Generations is also boost to win. 99% of the time, I just used the boost
Does it make me weird if I like 06' and Lost World?
No
@Unknown - Sonic Battle was a great game, what are you talking about?
I like the 3ds version
The ONE thing that needs to be taken, without question, from Sonic Lost World is the "Hold R to run" idea (even though it wasn't implemented correctly). It should control like a platformer under normal control, and then play like a racing game when you're hitting the gas.
I disagree. The idea of Sonic is being like a Mario game without holding the run button meaning you gain speed as a reward and of course, using the rolling abilities.
CosmoBunny said in her rewrite of sonic lost world that the story isn't bad but it was more of the execution and i agree with her
No one has forgotten it......there are OTHER sonic games that are more forgotten than this lol.
I never forgot Lost World, 3DS version is the better one tbh
I actually think that sonic lost world is not a bad sonic game. I enjoyed it for the most part. And the exploration makes the game more replayable. I would rate the game an 8 out of 10.
Sonic Lost World was actually my first 3D Sonic game, my 1st Sonic game being Sonic 1, 2, 3 & Knuckles on that weird Sonic games collection on the DS.
I had Lost World on the 3DS and, in all honesty, I thought it was fun! I had looked up videos about sonic since i had gotten that DS Sonic Game and lost world reminds me a lot of the cancelled Sonic game, Sonic X-Treme, even down to some of its early concept plots.
Then when I finally got a PC, I got Lost World on Steam. It was just as good as the 3ds version. I just think its a fun game, even if the story kinda stinks (so does that Casino Level, dear god, never again).
It's like we had all those games on last gen but not on next gen. What a shame
RIP cobanermani456 you will be missed
Honestly, all of the Sonic games considered bad or mediocre by many have so many good ideas and a new game based on any of them could be fantastic if they would just trim the fat and polish it. It worked for the Unleashed/Boost gameplay (cut the fat of the werehog and focused the gameplay more), so why wouldn’t it work for Secret Rings/Black Knight, Sonic Lost World, or Forces?
For Secret Rings, remove the motion controls and focus on the constant forward motion and spectacle of the levels, and just make it highly intense and fun to try and get higher and higher scores (sort of like Sonic Dash, but way more movement based and not infinite). For Lost World, polish up that gameplay and maybe add some momentum and maybe more jump abilities, ditch the Galaxy-esque level design, make the parkour more intuitive, and focus on making a bunch of fun and explorable platformer stages that are fun to speed run, or just make it a flat out Sonic-ified collectathon (I would love a Sonic collectathon). For Forces, well, just make a spin-off based purely on the Avatar and make it more platformer based.
If I had to guess what we are going to get next for the 30th Anniversary game, other than a Mania 2/new Classic Sonic game, I would guess it would take the Lost World gameplay and refine it, making it feel more like a Sonic gameplay style. I’m hoping Modern Sonic will be the only Sonic playable, but I could very well see them just throwing him in there because they feel like they have to. Assuming they don’t do that, and we have Modern Sonic with refined Lost World mechanics and gameplay, then I think that they will try and go mostly 3D with the gameplay. I could see these really intricate, non gravity based, platforming stages with plenty of secrets to find and alternate routes to explore (sort of like the 3D sections of Generations but more Platforming centric). I think the art style will likely continue the LW/Forces trend with its own little flare. As for other playable characters, I think it’s very likely we could see the Avatar again with more robust and varied wispons and customization options. I would welcome this, but I would personally rather see Knuckles or Tails playable, and they very well could be if Sonic Team follows Mania’s example. Speaking of that, I think they may try to do exactly that, having a Special Stage and all, but I still think we will see things like Wisp power ups and stuff a lot of people don’t want. In terms of story, I have no idea. If they’re smart they’ll get Ian Flynn but that likely won’t happen. Still for a big anniversary title, I’m sure we will get something interesting out of the story.
That’s basically what I think the best case scenario is for the next game, and if that ends up being the case I’ll happily take it because that sounds like it could be a really awesome experience. But for all I know, it could be the start of a completely new era for Sonic. Yah never know when they’ll try a completely new artstyles, playstyles, and story telling, but that could just be me. Next year will surely be a year to remember for Sonic at the very least.
Good to know I'm not the only one who likes this game. It's not spectacular, but I had a pretty good time with it. I'd still much rather play Colors or Generations, but this was a better experience than Forces.
Fact: the only people who like sonic games are the one's owning it and the haters are the 5 y.o who saw a bad review and thing that its cool saying that a game is bad. And well TH-camrs own the game but they want to agree with their fans so they trash the game too
Lost world is to modern sonic what heroes was to adventure sonic. A weird game that completely got rid of gameplay people loved, and is equally hated or loved by quite a few fans, with many more just being like "Eh, it's alright" lol
We also have the drop dash, triangle jump, and the super peel out
I remember my dad telling me this was coming out and me being super excited and well that years Christmas I got the game for ds and also got a poster for it
*3ds. This game was never released for the DS
Am I the only one that likes Lost World!?
No
I don't think lost world is a bad game honestly. I don't own a Wii U but my cousin does so when ever I went to his house we'll play together games. Sometimes even let me play alone. One of the games that he owned was sonic lost world. Before seeing on his shelf I've never heard about that game before. At point I was familiar with the franchise. I watched sonic X, play sonic generations. So I asked if I can play it. He said yes. what I discovered was one of my favourite games (at the time)
I liked the music, the cutscenes(I thought they were hilarious as a kid) I really liked the levels too!
Sonic Lost world is the greatest example of misreading the room ever, Gens had people excited for Sonic games again and hopefully the best boost game ever and Izuka was like "nah modern boost Sonic is not what we want or need" completely ignoring the massive signs saying "yes More Sonic Gens stuff DLC or new boost game plz"
And then Forces happened and we know the results. I think they did it right with Lost World when talking about gameplay. Of course, the game's not perfect but at least we got something new and they do it better mostly when they ignore most of the toxic fans.
You weren’t lying when you said that you would be covering this next last video
The real forgotten sonic games are the sonic games that tiger electronics made
Super sonic can also easily deactivated by the player and not forced to lose rings forcibly
I’ll be honest I have sonic lost world on my 3ds and I recently got it on my Wii u. The 3ds version isn’t that good but I think that the wii u version isn’t that bad actually. There was a lack of momentum at times but I don’t think it’s a bad sonic game. I see what SEGA we’re trying to do with this game, they just wanted basically a sonic colours 2. I love the non-stop speed levels even though there is only like 2 levels which have that as the full level. I don’t think lost world deserves all the hate it gets.
The DS and 3DS ports. So forgotten you didn't even cover them. They're actually good.
Sonikko Lost World 3DS is bad
The Minecraft 🌞 fax
Sonikko I agree
Imo i think sonic lost world was a fun game
Yeah the story could of been better but other than that gameplay was fun
music was great like always
I liked the parcour system
3:16 I always find it funny how one-sided this team-up really is, Eggman joining forces with sonic doesn't seem to add anything to the story or gameplay at all, and its always remind me of Ratchet & Clank: All4one which in my opinion did a better job when the villain forced to team-up with the heroes on both gameplay and story.
This game makes me feel like Sonic Team should just not make Sonic games
I mean, how many times did Pup say something like "this doesn't feel like Sonic"?
It's okay to come up with new IPs, guys
I think I know why this comment has no agreement.1)The game is Nintendo execlusive.
2)It feels like a sonic game for me.
4:45 now i don't agree with the state "took insporasion from mario galaxy" becuase sonic did that first with sa2's mad space
i just hope to see one more sonic game
Nice job again home dog!😎
Sonic lost world is underrated
I would sell my soul for a sonic adventure 2 on current consoles with current graphics
Sonic is 19x the person that you will ever be, leave noel alone, he is a gentleman he has done so much for the fandom.
Get a grip of yourself Johnathon you are putting your family honor at risk.
Nobody forgot this fucking game pup. You should know that
sonic lost world was the 2nd sonic game i’ve ever gotten lol
I personally loved Lost World
I thought you were going to do sonic runners
I liked Lost World and It should get a sequel with a better story and urban landscapes
The only problem I have is the title . EVERYONE KNEW ABOUT SONIC LOST WORLD . IT'S NOT EVEN SLIGHTLY FORGETTEN .
With dialogue, from what I've seen of the Japanese dub, with subtitles that are true to the Japanese voice acting and not just dubtitles for the English one, it does seem better. Like take the "Do you know how much that bites!?" scene for example.
th-cam.com/video/VSuL3cdYoTQ/w-d-xo.html
Though saying that, the Japanese dialogue does seem to be better compared to what we're getting these days when you have actual proper subtitles. Like there's no "this blue hedgehog's going to fed you your car!" in the Japanese Team Sonic Racing, which really does just make Sonic seem like a jerk.
th-cam.com/video/6JdSFCY7R0o/w-d-xo.html
I thing its worth noting that Colors and lost worlds scripts were written first into English and afterwards translated and changed for the Japanese release.
Can you do sonic boom rise of lyric next
Now that game was a nightmare. But cobi456 made it much better of him reacting of his game giving an error every time.
What I meant is this video:
th-cam.com/video/tdAf_g3sDlI/w-d-xo.html
I know but I still ❤️ boom amy
I think calling this "The Forgotten Sonic Game" is a bit of an exaggeration. If anything, this game is engraved in most people's memory due to this game's questionable gameplay and story. Plus, being a follow-up game to Generations probably hyped people up before they even knew what this game was going to be.
I love sonic game hopefully than make a good sonic game because sonic is a video game franchise and I look forward to seeing sonic the hedgehog movie 2 and we going to talis will meet sonic and I what to see knuckles in the film and more sonic character