The market moves with overall economic trends, which is expected. At this time, with the C6Z, any increase in median market value really can be attributed to the car reaching max depreciation and the value increasing slightly is due to overall economic inflation. That could be compared with something like the 911SC, which a few years back sold for $15k and now sell for $50k. Obvious during that time period the economy didn't triple, so when you take out the economic growth, there is ACTUAL appreciation in the value of the car. I only bring this up to point out that you can rest assured that the Corvette C6Z, like essentially every corvette, from new will go through period of depreciation (passed), then reach max depreciation where the value will only increase/decrease as a result of economy health. You won't have to worry about it shooting through the roof like NSX, Supra, air-cooled 911's, or essentially any desirable sports-car that had lower production numbers. The Corvette never had low production numbers, there are so many of them available, there will never be meaningful appreciation. Buy, drive, throw away. Enjoy and repeat. That's what Corvettes are for. They aren't for investing in.
TheSmokingTire markets been declining steadily in my opinion... there is a huge range in price between 06/07 then 08/09 then 11-13. About the only corvette 20 years and newer that has stopped losing value and even increased a little is the C5 ZO6
A lot of people think that the great thing about the LS7 is that it packs 427ci/7.0L displacement into a small block. And while that's a big part of it (no pun intended), it also comes down to race-derived heads that can move an incredible amount of air, and titanium connecting rods which allow for a 7000 RPM redline--which is bonkers for that much displacement. Even though the LT4 makes more power with its blower, and way more torque, I still prefer the mechanical ballet of the LS7.
Power for power n/a is faster than boost, power under the curve , no heat soak,less timing pull and weight. A 550 575 whp n/a c6 zo6 will dog walk a 575 whp c7 zo6.
I got a ride along in Z06 at an HPDE a few years back. The only changes from stock were slicks, racing buckets, and 5 pt seatbelts. It was so fast it was uncomfortable and borderline painful in the corners and on the brakes. Tremendous performance for the dollar.
@@aaronhauber3119 yea, but when you live here, and experience the amount of population density which results in the highways being as clogged as they are, it really is not surprising that auto pollution is such a big concern here. Yea, we all know that cruise ships cause more pollution, and manufacturing in India does to, but there is very real effect for coastal cities here trapping pollution in the air (smog) from cars on the road. YI love uncorked V8 exhaust, but I also like being able to breath ... the air here has only gotten better over the past few decades as policies were put in place to make cars pollute less. These days it's possible to make 700+hp cars and still have proper emissions equipment, so I don't really see any problem with it from a performance perspective.
Recently picked up an 08' Z06 in velocity yellow and it has been amazing so far. I've had three C6's in the past either LS2 or LS3 and no doubt the LS7 is the way to go. So much more power and the engine revs much freer as well. Also agree with Zack on the widebody C6's, they have aged really well and get a ton of looks too.
What's your recommendation if we're talking S/C? I know the LS7 is considered worse than the LS3 bc of thinner walls, but just wondering if you have any experience.
Josue Manzano technology and luxury is heavy! The new C8 is heavier in all variants. More insulation, more brakes, more cooling heat exchangers, heavier transmission, etc etc.
@@torod213 No Voodoo will make 750hp at the crank. The LS7 has done that many times. And this engine was created in 2005. lol It's not even a comparison.
@@cali2468 Uh no it's not even a comparison cause it's 5.2 vs 7 litres lol.. Hardly fair. If power is all you want, strap a couple of turbos on a Ford GT or Gallardo/Huracan, 2500hp all day. LS7 is not better just cause it's older, wtf kinda logic is that... LS7 is awesome but if I wanted 500hp as a crate motor, wouldn't even look at anything other than a Voodoo. Flat plane crank, 8250rpm. It's just on another level.
The Z06 is probably the only Corvette I would buy for the money...Never been a Corvette fan, but when the Z06 and ZR1 first came out, they were really impressive. C4's and C5's are great values today :)
I've never been a Corvette fan before either, but I felt the same way when the C7s came out. Now I would actually consider owning a C7, preferably a Grand Sport, in 5-10 years as they continue to get cheaper.
Austin Becker yeah man I love my Z. I found a Ron Fellows 1/300 car and got a good deal on it. If you buy privately you can save even more money. I originally wanted a C5, but I absolutely loved testing the C6 and I was sold. Even in stock form, it’s a blast.
AMG merc -07&08 are going down to 10k , incase that corvette is too expansive. Just watch out for bad headbolts on the AMG, look under the hood for signs of leaks
I did too. I still keep old issues of MT and C/D in my house. I still have a 2009 Corvette calendar that featured a velocity yellow zo6 that i haven't changed in forever
Just picked up a C6 Z06 a week ago for 29k with 43k miles. What an amazing machine. Daily driver for school and work, average about 28mpg on the freeway!
What other supercar can boast such a low cost of ownership? Fuel economy? I know if you can't afford the fuel/parts why are you playing in this sandbox. But it's nice to have an attainable supercar that won't require doubling the purchase price in operating costs.
love my 09Z. Still have the Stock bottom end and managed 9.86 @142.63mph and still using the 6spd. H/C/I set up on the LS7 screams serious potential with the right chosen parts. Looking to go deeper into the 9s this yr.
This past December I traded my F30 BMW N55 for a 2013 C6 Grand Sport. It’s a daily driver with occasional autox days. Wanted NA and classic styling since time is running out for that breed. Such an amazing machine. Mostly bulletproof and you just can’t beat the wide body curves. And yea, round taillights are better. They’ve aged so well. Long live the C6.
I love all of the love for the LS7... My old man worked for Chapman Racing Heads and was one of the cylinder head developers. This engine runs deep in the family, it's truly phenomenal! Way more work went into this engine than most folks have any idea of. Save for Comtech's issue with valve guide bore reamers (making them noodle shaped if ya feel me lmao) it's reliable, smooth, easy to drive, and it RIPS. Great vid and discussion!
Car manufacturers just don't understand that we generally like the classic look of performance cars but want the new and improved technology. Just improve the internals and stop wasting money on developing this new look every three years.
I just bought a 2009 Corvette C6 Z06 last week, already has H/C/I + headers and some other mods too.. makes 557whp, BEST SPORTS CAR FOR THE MONEY! And the funniest part is, I never drove a Stock C6Z 😂😂😂
Sometimes I really miss my '08 jet stream blue Z, creaking hatch and crummy interior and all (got spoiled by the C7). Cold startup in the garage cam sound was magic.
Hands down the C6 Z06 are the best bang for the buck, they must be driven on a road course to fully be appreciated ! The LS7 is beast ! If you have the means , pick one up!
The C5 z06 is the best bang for the buck performance car. If you want supercar levels of fast for $50k then bothing touches the C6 Z06. The levels of grip they have is insane.
Harrison Conyers I've had a c5z and c6z , c6z's are easily found in utah around $25k with decent mileage. Got mine in 2015 with 29,000 miles for $29,200. Definitely the best bang for buck in my opinion. My 2002 c5z was $23,500. I loved it but the c6z was by far my favorite!
@@C6Z_Bob What? First time I've heard that! I don't generally like yellow cars but on the c6z06 with the perfect tint GM picked I think it looks awesome. Stands out among all the white, black and silver cars out there.
@@whatsupwithsteve A buddy of mine picked up a yellow a 600 rwhp HCI C6Z with a Weld RTS drag pack and 26k miles for 32k, and that was about 2 years ago. If you watch the market they're always cheaper.
Bob he scored if it hasn’t been wrecked or otherwise abused. Velocity yellow as you know was the color chosen for the racing c6rs. When I park in the sea of white, silver and black cares I am the one who stands out. I like that..;). In 2008 the z06 only had 8 colors to choose from and their red sucked! I’va had dark cars and they are a bitch to keep clean. That left silver and white and white was boring as hell. Of course the month after I bought mine they came out with the Will Cooksey special in burgandy metallic. I would have bought that . Other than that I’m happy with my old yeller...
@@whatsupwithsteve Yeah he hit the jackpot. IIRC it also has either a Mantic clutch or an RPS clutch, can't remember. It did a verified 170 mph at a half mile event. The car is bad as hell and as clean as it gets.
C6 ZO6 LS7, previous generation C63 amg black series, 458 speciale, dodge 392 Hemi, ls3, mustang 5.0 coyote, Lexus 5.0 V8 AND bmw V1Os ARE SOME OF my favorite engines ever made and are going to be missed as we enter into the twin turbo generation. I am highly excited for GM 4.2 TWIN TURBO V8. I'M hoping that dodge twin turbos their HEMI for the future versions of SRT HELLCATS ETC
I just bought an 08 zo6 with ahp stage 4 heads btr 3 cam and a full exhaust. Makes around 550whp. Its a blast to drive. Had 25kmiles paid 32.7k clean title
Another C6Z 2009 Velocity Yellow 3LZ owner here . Picked up the car in 2016 with 65K Miles now I have 93K miles on it . Car only has a Borla axle back and everything else is stock . I bought this car for the performance and the exterior I don’t know why so many people are harping on the interior and how bad it is . This cars interior doesn’t bother me in the least . If interior means that much to you then buy a Benz or some Luxury car . Car has been 2 and a half years of solid enjoyment and other than a few scary lessons every now and then associated with driving a 500 horsepower car I wouldn’t trade the experience for anything in the world !
I think the C6 is the best looking body style of the modern day Corvette. I am 21 and just became a realtor. Hopefully I’ll be able to afford a C6 Z06 or ZR1 sooner than later.
I'm so happy and elated that I went with a 2015 Camaro Z/28 rather than a 2016 Mustang GT350. The LS7 is just unbeatable. I love everything about it. No regrets whatsoever. GM will never make another engine like it again.
Had a new 06 base and loved it and then a C6 race car which I loved even more. Getting a high mileage C6 wide body now and can’t wait. So much car for the money. No, rod bearings, IMS, RMS, bore scoring, throttle actuators, rear sub frame or any other of these crazy issues to deal with. Sure, the German cars I’ve had have been awesome to drive, but these Corvettes ask you for nothing.
There is no question in my mind that the C6 is the cleanest design of the Corvette ever made. While I like the improvements to the interior of the C7, I agree that the overall design to the exterior is too busy. I also think the C4 is another example of a clean design with not too much going on to make it busy looking.
I agree with both of you and that's where I put my 48k recently (2013 60th Anni), instead of any of the C7 models. I had considered a C7 Z06 vert (but in the low 60's a little over budget) but not really any other C7 - I do love the interior of the C7 but the exterior of a C6 Z06 looks as good as maybe any Vette every made.
@@seamusb.8933 I think it has more to do with where I live. Its in the midwest, and I have 3 neighbors with them. They're great cars for the money. However I would hardly say they are "cool"
I'm buying one next month. So glad most people discount domestics in favor of the euro stuff, keeps these monsters dirt cheap! Side note: how can anyone claim to be a car enthusiast and complain about interiors? Forest for the trees. Smdh
LS7, WITH the valve fix, & N/A. Through my entire time owning my last 1LT C7, this is the only Corvette I knew I should’ve bought instead. SOLID choice in a Vette.
I got a 2001 zo6, pro charged with meth injection n also have coil over suspension all 4 corners 840hp on c12 fuel 805hp on pump gas n I LOVE IT!.. she run a 10.11 140mph in the quarter mile!!.
When buying a c6z spend the $$$ to have the heads /valve guides checked prior to buying if ya have that dream c6z in mind. Regardless of the mileage or lack of mods. Mine went bad at a year and 32,000 miles and it tore the shit out of the top end. $7,200 of damage I about died!
I currently own a 2016 5.0. Been looking into these C6 Z06's. Would this be a good upgrade? I can't get over the platform of this car it seems amazing!
I also drive a 2015 GT PP and yes I would say that a C6 Z06 would be a major upgrade. One thing to remember about the Mustang is that no matter how much money you throw at upgrades, it's still based on an affordable, entry level performance car that shares a lot of parts with other vehicles in the Ford family. The C6 Z06 on the other hand is, for the most part bespoke within the GM family. It has a specifically designed aluminum chassis, performance suspension and brakes, carbon fiber or composite body panels, composite floorboards, etc. These cars new were $60-80K depending on options when new. That's a far cry from $35K of a Mustang GT. The only thing I would say that a C6 Z06 lacks is that the interior feels cheap. Aside from the known horrible seats and steering wheel, the Vette's interior is full of plastic and cheaply imitated materials. Not what you would expect from a flagship vehicle. Otherwise it truly is the best performance car for the money on the market today. So the question really should be: Are you ready to trade in the "crowd killer" stereotype for the "baby boomer with deck shoes and no socks" stereotype?
@@RB_CO Lol!! Thank you for the response. I appreciate it. One thing I'm concerned for is insurance on the Z06 versus the GT. Claims are probably made more frequent on the GT due to being driven by much younger drivers I'd assume.
@@kylemartin354 I would guess you're right. There are plenty of wrecking yards and body shops making money off totaled Coyote's. It's almost unreal how many.
I have the same year Z. Having trouble getting any local shops to step up with any enthusiasm to replace the heads. It does run like crazy. Repairs- shifter (warrantee), ABS system (a clip under the steering wheel) ABS system now still flaky (supposed clip needed under the seat). $2000 to replace fuel delivery/level sensors.
Black Cup wheels and tires - $3000. The weatherstrip falls unglued in the roof/hatch line. Need a good body shop. I cracked a body panel climbing around trying to re-glue that. Should have left that to a pro.
I was just looking at the C6 Z06 vs Challenger Scat Pack for my next car. It's mighty tempting to get the Z06, Scat Packs ate unfortunately too heavy and lose to everything. I'm not a racer, but I want bragging rights and the Z06 will give me that
Even to this day this car is very relevant performance wise. The classic combo of more power and more tire and lower weight will always be valid. You can also pick one up for less than a scatty.
I sold my 2011 Cadillac CTS-V wagon 6 speed And sold it for a LPE 606 2006 Lingenfelter c6 z06. 606hp , long tubes and straight pipes made the Ls7 one of my favorite sounding and performing cars I've drove. Awesome track car , road coursing was a blast! But yeassss valve guides huge issue, My bronze guides from LPE even failed and did some serious damage! $7,200 later up and running but yeah if ever buying another have to really have the heads looked at by a well known Performance shop that knows the Ls7.
I own a 2008 Jet Stream Blue Z06 that I bought new.It has 1500 miles on the clock and sits covered up in my heated garage.The 65,000 was a lot of money to spend on a car in 2008,but,i still think that is a classic.I'm not sure how to deal with the valve issue!Any suggestions would be welcome!Thanks!
You will need to get your heads either replaced with all the internals upgraded, or just take your heads and install dual retainer valve springs, valves, new guide, port and polish your heads and you should be good to go. Im getting mine installed now.
The z06/zr1 and GTR are value kings. I’m not sure which i would get personally probably the GTR because i have a g35 and it’s its far cousin but big NA power(z06) is amazing too
I personally prefer the look of the C6 but the C7 offers technology a decade newer, a much better interior, and is definitely a better all-around car. That said, as a C6 owner I would really love a C6 ZR1, which has proven to be exceptionally reliable for a 638 hp car and can be found for less than US$60,000 in excellent condition.
I bought an 08 z06 last year it had 8,000 miles it's got 12 now I am looking into the heads and cam. What's the best company to go with ? Is it really necessary to do them ?
I went with texas speed heads and cam, then also went overboard and supercharged/e85 my car, now im installing meth kit 2-step etc to it. So I would go with Texas speed PRC heads and LS7R or S cam.
Bro... do yourself a favor and join a Corvette forum. Don't ask random strangers on YT about stuff like this. I just saw some guy on here comparing buying an "old" car like a C6Z to his purchase of a Ford Fiesta. Run. Run to a forum. These are not the droids you're looking for.
Texas Speed, Lingenfelter(expensive) just do search on google. And no, you don't "have" to do anything. If you want more power then by all means do it. If you're worried about the valve issue and you have the means then yes go ahead and do cam, heads, valves, springs, pushrods etc.
The space in the back is usable. Getting service is better than any car of this type. Turning radius is like a truck, it's so wide that it's not good for daily use. The LS engines are the best!
Holy shit your doing one takes??? I stopped the chime on the channel when you said that they were going to stop...... Time to start checking back by to see if another chime is warranted.
If I don't purchase a Porsche in the next few months it will be a C6 Z06. I've always had my eyes on them. Beautiful machines, interior is a little less entertaining, but all out amazing car.
I went from a Porsche to a C5. The Porsche was great in its own way (mainly handling was far more communicative and easier to place. It didn’t necessarily go faster around bends just felt better and you knew where to limit was. Throttle response better) but I loved the Corvette so much more. The low end torque is addicting. Something else to take in to account is reliability and cost of maintenance. My Porsche cost me ~$1800 for a scheduled service. If you run in to mechanical problems prepare to drop several thousand minimum. The Corvette is unique among sports cars in that it is very reliable and incredibly cheap to fix if there is an issue.
Well said and great looking Z. The C6 widebody is one of the best looking Vettes ever made. I have the light version, a Grand Sport. I’m old school and never warmed up to the ugly C7 rear and weird angles in all places.
Incredible car, ricer headlights. You can pick up these headlights with the interior buckets painted black, some of the special edition ZO6 had that, and it looks way better.
Sure you might have to, not all of them go bad. But even so, you spend at the most a couple grand and you still have a car that can compete with exotics. Ferrari's don't get driven half as much and they have problems as well.
there a real difference between this and the base? in driving performance at least. I had an 09 base and strongly disliked it, traded it in for a lotus elise and had a miata before so cant really say i loved how it drove. maybe ill go hunting for a ZO6 when they get super cheap like the C5s
I had a Lemans Blue C6Z. It was a really special car. I drove it as a daily drive, putting snow tires on it during the winter. 20k miles per year I drove it, and at that amount, the interior just wore on me. After a couple years I moved into the C7 Stingray, which fixed my issue with the interior. The nice thing is because the C7 has 10% less horsepower, and about 7% more mass, the acceleration isn’t nearly as much fun as it was in my old C6Z, so I find myself driving in a more responsible manner, because I don’t like being disappointed with the acceleration. ;)
Hey, I am looking at buying a Z06 from 07. What should I know? You mentioned the valves dropping. Is there some defect I should ask the owner or dealerships if they addressed?
As I shop for a new/used toy or truck to add, I just convinced myself recently that I don’t need one of these cars...and then, this...damn you, Smoking Tire, for stoking those flames again...🤣🤣
Stop making these vids. I want used prices to stay low for a little longer
Pretty much what I was thinking, "well there goes the used market price of ________" but the realization was bound to happen eventually.
LOL remember when Motortrend single handedly bumped the price of every clean E30 up 3k?
Lol. The market has been moving up for the last 5 years, so you can't blame us! ZK
The market moves with overall economic trends, which is expected. At this time, with the C6Z, any increase in median market value really can be attributed to the car reaching max depreciation and the value increasing slightly is due to overall economic inflation. That could be compared with something like the 911SC, which a few years back sold for $15k and now sell for $50k. Obvious during that time period the economy didn't triple, so when you take out the economic growth, there is ACTUAL appreciation in the value of the car.
I only bring this up to point out that you can rest assured that the Corvette C6Z, like essentially every corvette, from new will go through period of depreciation (passed), then reach max depreciation where the value will only increase/decrease as a result of economy health. You won't have to worry about it shooting through the roof like NSX, Supra, air-cooled 911's, or essentially any desirable sports-car that had lower production numbers. The Corvette never had low production numbers, there are so many of them available, there will never be meaningful appreciation.
Buy, drive, throw away. Enjoy and repeat. That's what Corvettes are for. They aren't for investing in.
TheSmokingTire markets been declining steadily in my opinion... there is a huge range in price between 06/07 then 08/09 then 11-13. About the only corvette 20 years and newer that has stopped losing value and even increased a little is the C5 ZO6
A lot of people think that the great thing about the LS7 is that it packs 427ci/7.0L displacement into a small block. And while that's a big part of it (no pun intended), it also comes down to race-derived heads that can move an incredible amount of air, and titanium connecting rods which allow for a 7000 RPM redline--which is bonkers for that much displacement. Even though the LT4 makes more power with its blower, and way more torque, I still prefer the mechanical ballet of the LS7.
FI engines can also run into cooling issues (see C7 Z06). Good notes on the ti rods and heads.
Is it reliable motor? Any issues?
Power for power n/a is faster than boost, power under the curve , no heat soak,less timing pull and weight. A 550 575 whp n/a c6 zo6 will dog walk a 575 whp c7 zo6.
Good stuff
Well said
I got a ride along in Z06 at an HPDE a few years back. The only changes from stock were slicks, racing buckets, and 5 pt seatbelts. It was so fast it was uncomfortable and borderline painful in the corners and on the brakes. Tremendous performance for the dollar.
Not used to hearing a LS7 without headers and a cam here in houston lol
Car Authority agreed
California is annoying about that stuff
@@aaronhauber3119 yea, but when you live here, and experience the amount of population density which results in the highways being as clogged as they are, it really is not surprising that auto pollution is such a big concern here. Yea, we all know that cruise ships cause more pollution, and manufacturing in India does to, but there is very real effect for coastal cities here trapping pollution in the air (smog) from cars on the road. YI love uncorked V8 exhaust, but I also like being able to breath ... the air here has only gotten better over the past few decades as policies were put in place to make cars pollute less. These days it's possible to make 700+hp cars and still have proper emissions equipment, so I don't really see any problem with it from a performance perspective.
Yall gotta crazy good car scene
Lmaooo y'all dont fuck around out there. Coming from a South Florida resident
Recently picked up an 08' Z06 in velocity yellow and it has been amazing so far. I've had three C6's in the past either LS2 or LS3 and no doubt the LS7 is the way to go. So much more power and the engine revs much freer as well. Also agree with Zack on the widebody C6's, they have aged really well and get a ton of looks too.
No targa roof though. :(
I'll be buying one myself this winter after I graduate college! I can't wait. I want an 08-09 JSB.
What's your recommendation if we're talking S/C? I know the LS7 is considered worse than the LS3 bc of thinner walls, but just wondering if you have any experience.
I bough an 08 z06 velocity yellow, and love it ... haven't done the heads yet. Have u I am torn that do all these cars need it done ?
Stefan Petrov The LS7 loves boost if your builder knows what he is doing. Make sure to do the valves guides first.
We will never see Chevy make a car this light ever again.
What about the new c8?
Josue Manzano technology and luxury is heavy! The new C8 is heavier in all variants. More insulation, more brakes, more cooling heat exchangers, heavier transmission, etc etc.
@Josue Manzano The C8 weighs in at 3648 lbs
@@manzano5620 It's 500lbs heavier....
Calin Campbell z06 might have the DOHC FPC v8 from the C8.R
The LS7 is such an amazing engine. One of the best naturally aspirated V8 of all time in my opinion.
Exactly why I plan on swapping one into my G8
Yes, but Voodoo...
@@torod213 No Voodoo will make 750hp at the crank. The LS7 has done that many times. And this engine was created in 2005. lol It's not even a comparison.
@@cali2468 Uh no it's not even a comparison cause it's 5.2 vs 7 litres lol.. Hardly fair. If power is all you want, strap a couple of turbos on a Ford GT or Gallardo/Huracan, 2500hp all day. LS7 is not better just cause it's older, wtf kinda logic is that... LS7 is awesome but if I wanted 500hp as a crate motor, wouldn't even look at anything other than a Voodoo. Flat plane crank, 8250rpm. It's just on another level.
@@torod213 😂😂😂 poor child. Your are confused.
C6 Z06 is truly an amazing machine. Great job Zack.
“Preach!”
The Z06 is probably the only Corvette I would buy for the money...Never been a Corvette fan, but when the Z06 and ZR1 first came out, they were really impressive. C4's and C5's are great values today :)
I miss my c5z, such a good car for the money
Imma see if I can pick up my aunts ‘99 c5, you’re right the z06 is the way to go though.
I'd like to own a C4 ZR1 before I die, or at least get to drive one....
I've never been a Corvette fan before either, but I felt the same way when the C7s came out. Now I would actually consider owning a C7, preferably a Grand Sport, in 5-10 years as they continue to get cheaper.
Austin Becker yeah man I love my Z. I found a Ron Fellows 1/300 car and got a good deal on it. If you buy privately you can save even more money. I originally wanted a C5, but I absolutely loved testing the
C6 and I was sold. Even in stock form, it’s a blast.
My dream car in high school! I still have calendars, motor trends and anything else related to the release of her. She's in my price range now..
Get that shit bro!
AMG merc -07&08 are going down to 10k , incase that corvette is too expansive.
Just watch out for bad headbolts on the AMG, look under the hood for signs of leaks
I did too. I still keep old issues of MT and C/D in my house. I still have a 2009 Corvette calendar that featured a velocity yellow zo6 that i haven't changed in forever
You were in high school in 2007? Jeeeez, kid status
Mark my words, these will be worth a lot of money in the future. Last N/A 427 stock.
Just picked up a C6 Z06 a week ago for 29k with 43k miles. What an amazing machine. Daily driver for school and work, average about 28mpg on the freeway!
picked up a c6 z06 as well last week, payed a tad more, 42k miles
Do the heads
@@toodanderson351 Heads were done at fasterproms about a year ago :)
What other supercar can boast such a low cost of ownership? Fuel economy? I know if you can't afford the fuel/parts why are you playing in this sandbox. But it's nice to have an attainable supercar that won't require doubling the purchase price in operating costs.
How are those front a-arm bushings doing? Still pleased with the Delrin?
love my 09Z. Still have the Stock bottom end and managed 9.86 @142.63mph and still using the 6spd. H/C/I set up on the LS7 screams serious potential with the right chosen parts. Looking to go deeper into the 9s this yr.
What wheel and tire package are you running?
what h/c/i set up do you have?
This past December I traded my F30 BMW N55 for a 2013 C6 Grand Sport. It’s a daily driver with occasional autox days. Wanted NA and classic styling since time is running out for that breed. Such an amazing machine. Mostly bulletproof and you just can’t beat the wide body curves. And yea, round taillights are better. They’ve aged so well. Long live the C6.
Ive had a C6 base z51 for 6 months and i still get a rush as i walk up to it! Best daily i could ask for
I have had mine for four years and it just gets better--plus, unlike the Z06, you can take the top out!
I want a base with the 6 speed. It's my next car. Can't wait.
The C5 and C6 are just a timeless design in my opinion.
CrownWorthy Especially the C5. I personally think it’s one of the best looking Corvettes out there.
Alex Pascutiu I agree.
C5 coupe in Nassau Blue is the best looking car ever in my opinion.
@@Michael-lu2tz lol u must be kidding
Alex Pascutiu and last of the pop up headlights 👍🏼
I love all of the love for the LS7... My old man worked for Chapman Racing Heads and was one of the cylinder head developers. This engine runs deep in the family, it's truly phenomenal! Way more work went into this engine than most folks have any idea of. Save for Comtech's issue with valve guide bore reamers (making them noodle shaped if ya feel me lmao) it's reliable, smooth, easy to drive, and it RIPS. Great vid and discussion!
Car manufacturers just don't understand that we generally like the classic look of performance cars but want the new and improved technology. Just improve the internals and stop wasting money on developing this new look every three years.
Zack, i respect you more now knowing the C6Z is one of your favorites. Good taste brother, hands down the best gen vette
I just bought a 2009 Corvette C6 Z06 last week, already has H/C/I + headers and some other mods too.. makes 557whp, BEST SPORTS CAR FOR THE MONEY! And the funniest part is, I never drove a Stock C6Z 😂😂😂
Oh and I only paid $30k for it.
We're those numbers on a Mustang Dyno? What cam is in it?
What color? how many miles? clean title?
@@cali2468 idk which exact cam tbh lol
Abu Nation nice deal
Some people had Lamborghini posters, some people had posters of R34 GTRs, I had a Velocity Yellow Z06 poster on my wall. Love these cars
Jeremy Clarkson
Alex Clement let me buy it off of you lol
Or where did you find it? I actually have the exact z06
Sometimes I really miss my '08 jet stream blue Z, creaking hatch and crummy interior and all (got spoiled by the C7). Cold startup in the garage cam sound was magic.
The 7.0 engine may just be my favorite vette engine
Hands down the C6 Z06 are the best bang for the buck, they must be driven on a road course to fully be appreciated ! The LS7 is beast ! If you have the means , pick one up!
The C5 z06 is the best bang for the buck performance car. If you want supercar levels of fast for $50k then bothing touches the C6 Z06. The levels of grip they have is insane.
You can get a c6 z06 for like $30k lol $50k almost gets you a used c7 z06
If you want a low mileage C6Z (
Harrison Conyers I've had a c5z and c6z , c6z's are easily found in utah around $25k with decent mileage. Got mine in 2015 with 29,000 miles for $29,200. Definitely the best bang for buck in my opinion. My 2002 c5z was $23,500. I loved it but the c6z was by far my favorite!
Ryan Brown paid $29k for my 29,000 miles '06 c6z. They're pretty cheap in utah even low mileage because of the snow season I'm sure.
The Architect that’s an insane deal for 2015... it’s hard to find that in today’s market but I’m sure as the get past summer it will get better
Yellow is less desirable? I like the Velocity yellow.
Yeah they're typically a bit cheaper
@@C6Z_Bob What? First time I've heard that! I don't generally like yellow cars but on the c6z06 with the perfect tint GM picked I think it looks awesome. Stands out among all the white, black and silver cars out there.
@@whatsupwithsteve A buddy of mine picked up a yellow a 600 rwhp HCI C6Z with a Weld RTS drag pack and 26k miles for 32k, and that was about 2 years ago. If you watch the market they're always cheaper.
Bob he scored if it hasn’t been wrecked or otherwise abused. Velocity yellow as you know was the color chosen for the racing c6rs. When I park in the sea of white, silver and black cares I am the one who stands out. I like that..;). In 2008 the z06 only had 8 colors to choose from and their red sucked! I’va had dark cars and they are a bitch to keep clean. That left silver and white and white was boring as hell. Of course the month after I bought mine they came out with the Will Cooksey special in burgandy metallic. I would have bought that . Other than that I’m happy with my old yeller...
@@whatsupwithsteve Yeah he hit the jackpot. IIRC it also has either a Mantic clutch or an RPS clutch, can't remember. It did a verified 170 mph at a half mile event. The car is bad as hell and as clean as it gets.
Great video Zach, GM knocked it out of the ball park with the LS7, I watched the C6Rs win at LeMans, they were yellow and sounded epic.
C6 ZO6 LS7, previous generation C63 amg black series, 458 speciale, dodge 392 Hemi, ls3, mustang 5.0 coyote, Lexus 5.0 V8 AND bmw V1Os ARE SOME OF my favorite engines ever made and are going to be missed as we enter into the twin turbo generation. I am highly excited for GM 4.2 TWIN TURBO V8. I'M hoping that dodge twin turbos their HEMI for the future versions of SRT HELLCATS ETC
The C5 and C6 Z06 are the two best performing supercars under $40k.
I could afford the c5 rn but I think I wanna wait on the c6. Pretty much the ultimate N/A corvette.
Independence City Motoring you forgot about the gt500, boss 302
@@stunna_CODM both good but have live axles, high center of gravity and suboptimal weight distribution. Really good straight line cars though.
Independence City Motoring u mean sports car
I just bought an 08 zo6 with ahp stage 4 heads btr 3 cam and a full exhaust. Makes around 550whp. Its a blast to drive. Had 25kmiles paid 32.7k clean title
Another C6Z 2009 Velocity Yellow 3LZ owner here . Picked up the car in 2016 with 65K Miles now I have 93K miles on it . Car only has a Borla axle back and everything else is stock . I bought this car for the performance and the exterior I don’t know why so many people are harping on the interior and how bad it is . This cars interior doesn’t bother me in the least . If interior means that much to you then buy a Benz or some Luxury car . Car has been 2 and a half years of solid enjoyment and other than a few scary lessons every now and then associated with driving a 500 horsepower car I wouldn’t trade the experience for anything in the world !
I think the C6 is the best looking body style of the modern day Corvette. I am 21 and just became a realtor. Hopefully I’ll be able to afford a C6 Z06 or ZR1 sooner than later.
The owner is the kind of Car Guy I hate! Always serious and corrects people on the tiniest things 24/7
Double tap Productions no doubt !
He's just passionate about his vehicle, cut him some slack
Stop crying young man/girl
Probably a little nervous. Maybe he's just coming off that way because of it.
Thanks for taking us for a ride on this! Always wanted to know how these beauties drive! great vid!
Finally other guys that share my sentiment about retaining those round twilights! Love my C6
I'm so happy and elated that I went with a 2015 Camaro Z/28 rather than a 2016 Mustang GT350.
The LS7 is just unbeatable. I love everything about it. No regrets whatsoever. GM will never make another engine like it again.
You are not happy. You are full of regret
A 4.10 gear REALLY makes it fun to drive and really wakes it up. In addition all six gears are more usable. Still very good road mileage too.
Had a new 06 base and loved it and then a C6 race car which I loved even more. Getting a high mileage C6 wide body now and can’t wait. So much car for the money. No, rod bearings, IMS, RMS, bore scoring, throttle actuators, rear sub frame or any other of these crazy issues to deal with. Sure, the German cars I’ve had have been awesome to drive, but these Corvettes ask you for nothing.
just watched this again 3 years later
LS7 - greatest NA engine ever!
you can't change my mind
"Rear ended by a Mustang" 😂😂enough said
Where, at a stop sign?
The kid is stepping up in these videos. He's been promoted from driving economy cars to sports cars like the Z06.
I thought I was the only person in the world who didn't like the looks of the C7, ha ha. Great video!
There is no question in my mind that the C6 is the cleanest design of the Corvette ever made. While I like the improvements to the interior of the C7, I agree that the overall design to the exterior is too busy. I also think the C4 is another example of a clean design with not too much going on to make it busy looking.
The C7 screwed up the rear in my opinion. The c6 z06 or the zr1 are the best looking vette since the 60s.
I agree with both of you and that's where I put my 48k recently (2013 60th Anni), instead of any of the C7 models. I had considered a C7 Z06 vert (but in the low 60's a little over budget) but not really any other C7 - I do love the interior of the C7 but the exterior of a C6 Z06 looks as good as maybe any Vette every made.
C7 = Transformers. My next Corvette will likely be a C6 Z. Cam and heads can make a great car even better.
These are like 30k still used, great cars but everyone knows they're sweet. I personally think the current gen Z06 look the best.
Check back in 10-15 years and see if your opinion has changed! Good thing is both cars will still be just as fast.
@@seamusb.8933 I think it has more to do with where I live. Its in the midwest, and I have 3 neighbors with them. They're great cars for the money. However I would hardly say they are "cool"
I was going to get into one but went '17 Camaro SS 1LE instead. I still want a C6 ZO6 in time. Fantastic car, as is the SS 1LE.
Can't go wrong with either one, dynamically. ZK
You're right Zac, this is THE car. I will have this car one day.
C6 grandsport is my personal favorite Corvette ever
I'm buying one next month. So glad most people discount domestics in favor of the euro stuff, keeps these monsters dirt cheap!
Side note: how can anyone claim to be a car enthusiast and complain about interiors? Forest for the trees. Smdh
LS7, WITH the valve fix, & N/A.
Through my entire time owning my last 1LT C7, this is the only Corvette I knew I should’ve bought instead.
SOLID choice in a Vette.
ralatorre9 why the C6Z over the C7?
I got a 2001 zo6, pro charged with meth injection n also have coil over suspension all 4 corners 840hp on c12 fuel 805hp on pump gas n I LOVE IT!.. she run a 10.11 140mph in the quarter mile!!.
This car is scary fast! Drove one.
Its is my goal to add one of these generation c6 z06s to my collection!
Go get it!!
When buying a c6z spend the $$$ to have the heads /valve guides checked prior to buying if ya have that dream c6z in mind. Regardless of the mileage or lack of mods. Mine went bad at a year and 32,000 miles and it tore the shit out of the top end. $7,200 of damage I about died!
Interior is easy fix = cage/race seats/race non airbag steering wheel, + do the shifter mod
And you are done!
Were used Ferrari 360’s and 996 Turbos ever comparable price to used C6 Z06’s?? I find that hard to believe
What if my heart falls into that motor?! Too late.
I currently own a 2016 5.0. Been looking into these C6 Z06's. Would this be a good upgrade? I can't get over the platform of this car it seems amazing!
I also drive a 2015 GT PP and yes I would say that a C6 Z06 would be a major upgrade. One thing to remember about the Mustang is that no matter how much money you throw at upgrades, it's still based on an affordable, entry level performance car that shares a lot of parts with other vehicles in the Ford family. The C6 Z06 on the other hand is, for the most part bespoke within the GM family. It has a specifically designed aluminum chassis, performance suspension and brakes, carbon fiber or composite body panels, composite floorboards, etc. These cars new were $60-80K depending on options when new. That's a far cry from $35K of a Mustang GT. The only thing I would say that a C6 Z06 lacks is that the interior feels cheap. Aside from the known horrible seats and steering wheel, the Vette's interior is full of plastic and cheaply imitated materials. Not what you would expect from a flagship vehicle. Otherwise it truly is the best performance car for the money on the market today.
So the question really should be: Are you ready to trade in the "crowd killer" stereotype for the "baby boomer with deck shoes and no socks" stereotype?
@@RB_CO Lol!! Thank you for the response. I appreciate it. One thing I'm concerned for is insurance on the Z06 versus the GT. Claims are probably made more frequent on the GT due to being driven by much younger drivers I'd assume.
@@kylemartin354 I would guess you're right. There are plenty of wrecking yards and body shops making money off totaled Coyote's. It's almost unreal how many.
One of the best TST videos in a while!
I have the same year Z. Having trouble getting any local shops to step up with any enthusiasm to replace the heads. It does run like crazy. Repairs- shifter (warrantee), ABS system (a clip under the steering wheel) ABS system now still flaky (supposed clip needed under the seat). $2000 to replace fuel delivery/level sensors.
Black Cup wheels and tires - $3000. The weatherstrip falls unglued in the roof/hatch line. Need a good body shop. I cracked a body panel climbing around trying to re-glue that. Should have left that to a pro.
best car ever made
I was just looking at the C6 Z06 vs Challenger Scat Pack for my next car. It's mighty tempting to get the Z06, Scat Packs ate unfortunately too heavy and lose to everything. I'm not a racer, but I want bragging rights and the Z06 will give me that
I love every version of the C6.
One of my favorite cars will definitely get one soon and build a monster
Don't go crazy just treat her right.
6:47 that chuckle says all
C6 ZO6 is the purist Corvette.
Even to this day this car is very relevant performance wise. The classic combo of more power and more tire and lower weight will always be valid. You can also pick one up for less than a scatty.
One of my favorite vettes!
Owner definitely from the East Coast. Sweet Vette
Don't agree that Velocity yellow being less desirable........your opinion. Or silver too.
It's the headlights... Not really a fan of the color matched housings in general but yellow is a bit more awkward than the rest!
He was talking about market value of those colors. Not a matter of opinion. Fact
I sold my 2011 Cadillac CTS-V wagon 6 speed And sold it for a LPE 606 2006 Lingenfelter c6 z06. 606hp , long tubes and straight pipes made the Ls7 one of my favorite sounding and performing cars I've drove. Awesome track car , road coursing was a blast! But yeassss valve guides huge issue, My bronze guides from LPE even failed and did some serious damage! $7,200 later up and running but yeah if ever buying another have to really have the heads looked at by a well known Performance shop that knows the Ls7.
I own a 2008 Jet Stream Blue Z06 that I bought new.It has 1500 miles on the clock and sits covered up in my heated garage.The 65,000 was a lot of money to spend on a car in 2008,but,i still think that is a classic.I'm not sure how to deal with the valve issue!Any suggestions would be welcome!Thanks!
You will need to get your heads either replaced with all the internals upgraded, or just take your heads and install dual retainer valve springs, valves, new guide, port and polish your heads and you should be good to go. Im getting mine installed now.
I live in mass and don't know of a speed shop in my area
63 split window is my favorite. Then C6 Z06 but hate red and yellow especially stripes. Still give respect cause they're fast and I can't afford it.
The z06/zr1 and GTR are value kings. I’m not sure which i would get personally probably the GTR because i have a g35 and it’s its far cousin but big NA power(z06) is amazing too
I'd get a lightly used manual z06 for $50k
This is a crazy beautiful car man, I like it better than the new Z06
ZACK IS GREAT! good stuff man love the reviews!
I’m wondering if I should get one of these instead of the C7 stingrays I’ve been looking at!
I personally prefer the look of the C6 but the C7 offers technology a decade newer, a much better interior, and is definitely a better all-around car. That said, as a C6 owner I would really love a C6 ZR1, which has proven to be exceptionally reliable for a 638 hp car and can be found for less than US$60,000 in excellent condition.
What is the valve issue I keep hearing about
I bought an 08 z06 last year it had 8,000 miles it's got 12 now I am looking into the heads and cam. What's the best company to go with ? Is it really necessary to do them ?
I went with texas speed heads and cam, then also went overboard and supercharged/e85 my car, now im installing meth kit 2-step etc to it. So I would go with Texas speed PRC heads and LS7R or S cam.
Bro... do yourself a favor and join a Corvette forum. Don't ask random strangers on YT about stuff like this. I just saw some guy on here comparing buying an "old" car like a C6Z to his purchase of a Ford Fiesta. Run. Run to a forum. These are not the droids you're looking for.
Texas Speed, Lingenfelter(expensive) just do search on google. And no, you don't "have" to do anything. If you want more power then by all means do it. If you're worried about the valve issue and you have the means then yes go ahead and do cam, heads, valves, springs, pushrods etc.
Had no idea Alan from the hangover was a Corvette guy!
Love how he drove for 1 minute before he smoked a big ass rock with the front splitter 😫😫
The space in the back is usable. Getting service is better than any car of this type. Turning radius is like a truck, it's so wide that it's not good for daily use. The LS engines are the best!
In the Targa top vettes the roof goes in the back. So yes it's useful lol.
Holy shit your doing one takes??? I stopped the chime on the channel when you said that they were going to stop...... Time to start checking back by to see if another chime is warranted.
I love mine !! 07 LeMans Blue.
how reliable are these cars?
It’s 3:20 am, I literally just watched a cat video moments ago. Klapman - pretty solid analyses of viewer demo.
Trump 2020
tiger cat agreed
Well, you and I share a bedroom, so it's not that surprising. ZK
It isn't the Smoking Tire without Matt Farah and his reactions.
i hear good things about that green egg you got in your backyard, how do you like it? would you recommend one?
If I don't purchase a Porsche in the next few months it will be a C6 Z06. I've always had my eyes on them. Beautiful machines, interior is a little less entertaining, but all out amazing car.
I went from a Porsche to a C5. The Porsche was great in its own way (mainly handling was far more communicative and easier to place. It didn’t necessarily go faster around bends just felt better and you knew where to limit was. Throttle response better) but I loved the Corvette so much more. The low end torque is addicting. Something else to take in to account is reliability and cost of maintenance. My Porsche cost me ~$1800 for a scheduled service. If you run in to mechanical problems prepare to drop several thousand minimum. The Corvette is unique among sports cars in that it is very reliable and incredibly cheap to fix if there is an issue.
I’m in the market for either a 2003/04 cobra or one of these. Which would you guys recommend.
MrTyler8877 depends what you’re trying to do. Cobra is a better cruiser and Z06 is better around turns.
Well said and great looking Z. The C6 widebody is one of the best looking Vettes ever made. I have the light version, a Grand Sport. I’m old school and never warmed up to the ugly C7 rear and weird angles in all places.
Can you guys review a c6 ZR1? surprised you haven't already
Incredible car, ricer headlights. You can pick up these headlights with the interior buckets painted black, some of the special edition ZO6 had that, and it looks way better.
Edwin Perez-Clancy car came with them. Not a fan but the film does protect the lights.
The only thing that sucks on these is you have to plan on heads/valves if you get one which doesn't have it done already.
Sure you might have to, not all of them go bad. But even so, you spend at the most a couple grand and you still have a car that can compete with exotics. Ferrari's don't get driven half as much and they have problems as well.
It’s like “pouring oil” lol zack klapman analogies are the best alogies
there a real difference between this and the base? in driving performance at least. I had an 09 base and strongly disliked it, traded it in for a lotus elise and had a miata before so cant really say i loved how it drove. maybe ill go hunting for a ZO6 when they get super cheap like the C5s
I had a Lemans Blue C6Z. It was a really special car. I drove it as a daily drive, putting snow tires on it during the winter. 20k miles per year I drove it, and at that amount, the interior just wore on me. After a couple years I moved into the C7 Stingray, which fixed my issue with the interior. The nice thing is because the C7 has 10% less horsepower, and about 7% more mass, the acceleration isn’t nearly as much fun as it was in my old C6Z, so I find myself driving in a more responsible manner, because I don’t like being disappointed with the acceleration. ;)
Hey, I am looking at buying a Z06 from 07. What should I know? You mentioned the valves dropping. Is there some defect I should ask the owner or dealerships if they addressed?
GLACIAL message me on ig if you want to know more a_haubs
As I shop for a new/used toy or truck to add, I just convinced myself recently that I don’t need one of these cars...and then, this...damn you, Smoking Tire, for stoking those flames again...🤣🤣
Guy's car has the same problem mine does with the carpet sliding down off the trans tunnel.