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32:19 "ooh invis, who buys invis?" *said by PA with Blur carrying a silver edge*
personally I love that Tormentors are just a imposing cube, not everything has to be a giant lizard. Gameplay wise they are fine, you have to make a trade-off between farming on your cores and giving up map position to group and take it. If you take the enemy's while pushing, you take a lot of damage and make yourself open to counter attacks, so there's an interesting choice to be made.
To answer your question: I like tormentors. I just wish more people on my team would play around them. They're basically impossible to solo because of how much damage you do to yourself, but they're great otherwise. A way to make that much better would be to have it be the *only* source of aghs shards, and maybe to balance that out it gives two shards instead of one.
Tormentors in concept are quite nice.
My personal opinion is that it's not placed in a good spot, its mostly awkward and taken from the enemy team if they have the advantage.
This only gets taken if you're behind and the cores have nothing more to do, or when you're even against the enemy.
The next patch should add an area of the map where all the supports can go to chill while waiting for the cores to afk farm / afk feed enough that they finally decide to focus on an objective. The sups from both teams can go there and take no damage while in that zone. It can have a mini-bar and pool table.
I remember Tiny back in the day. I used to rush Scepter in order for him to have permanent cleave and then get crit, then hyperstone, then finish crit item, then finish assault cuirass, then get heart, next was bkb, then moonshard. I made him a hyper carry, once you had Scepter and Crit he really started taking over the game and could end up saving you from a loss.
About the tormentors: I love having another boss, love having another functional building, and LOVE that those ideas are combined. Makes building damage heroes feel like they have more use when they aren't able to push. Visually doesn't really make sense why it has a dispersion effect, but that's a small gripe because it needs some kind of defense and I think AoE was the right kind for a weaker boss.
Also +rep pugna his ultimate cancels out its regen so he can take it with any other hero.
23:55 i think they are pretty cool in the concept of having another boss on the map with unique mechanic (has 1 hp and a regenerating barrier) but it is sometimes really hard to convince your carry/mid to go and kill it in 3k mmr sea lobbies
Yeah some people aren't keen on taking them to help out supports. But they are really enjoyable when you're playing with a team that communicates.
@@triattack1529 it doesn't take much to take down though. One who will deal damage and 1-2 extra heroes to split the return damage, i don't understand why i gotta convince my teammates to get free 1400 networth, but oh well, sometimes people are just stubborn i guess
Tormentors are nice addition to the game. The fact it gives shards is even better. But the problem is, that only support plus offlane can't ussualy kill them alone, and good luck getting your carry to help. Maybe if they put them somewhere else on the map or just made them more killable for supps... (maybe make them take dmg from disable spells or spells in general so u dont need to rightclick it that much).
Baumi farming here then talking about his allies being lower level is very much like the john candy thanksgiving scene from family guy :P
Tormentor Concept model : It was a Egg, Storrega egg with Aghanim, thats why she give Aghanim shard, because she made out of rock, with Aghanim mana inside her. So it's Golem
baumi got that peter griffin laugh
In Brazil too. We don't say Happy Birthday before... 😆
I really like the tormentor, specially bc I play support, but I feel like people aren't used to it yet. In my games at least I almost always have to beg for people to come kill it...
I love tormentors. I wish my team would love them as much as me. I think it would be cool if it were a creature that could be taken by the 2 on the map who want to take it most, the supports, rather than something that requires your cores to care about their team.
what a supprise it was ti 7 XD baumi just loves to talk about ti7 XD
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Tormentors seems like something you stumble upon midgame. Have not played with them self though.
As support player i like tormentor, its just getting your team to actually kill it, is sometimes proven more challenging than the match itself. Funnily enough if you watch the stream chat as Baumi starts talking about it... there is one guy who says something along : As a carry player, i dont like to go out of my way killing it....... Well ofcourse you dont, you have unlimited money income, since your supports are doing the hard work of giving you space you piece of something.
AS A CARRY player
I love tormentors free money
It's like 400 gold in turbo I think
I lost a 90m ranked game because my friend had pathed back to base and while he was observing a fight we managed disengage from without losses the tormenter spawned and game decided to force him to attack
And since he had deso crits and Stygian, in the few attacks he managed to get out before having time to react he killed himself and tormenter
I think purge also mentioned something similar to tiny regarding inability to burst down heroes somewhere along his career just can’t rmb when
I like this mod feels like 1x6 but at home
Knowing valve if they ever decided to change the tormentor model it would nevet be a dragon
a golem would be more likely
Is it enemy PA from normal dota looks like😮
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Tiny not being picked ti7 - Talents, Raindrops and glimmer, even cm was able to survive tiny combo those days
When was AEON disk introduced?
I think tormentor needs to be inside the base or easier to contest with a real advantage , and they should give a team buff instead of a shard. And team buff lasts for a 4-5 min to help defend/push or whatever
By advantage I mean tormentor needs to be on low ground
Sounds like the Fire Giant from Smite. A big boss equally between each base that gives a power and survivability buff to the team that kills it. It only cares about who gets the last hit so fighting over it even just for hype steals is always valuable.
Baumi, template for dota buts has a big flaw: bots are just unusable. And because pretty much any dota but is played by very few people it's a huge issue
That's not the issue of the template. That's an issue of the bots. We need proper bots templates/support to work with customisation in other parts of the game like map, items, talents, skill levelling and skill usage.
For both tormenters and Roshan i love the idea of bosses i just dont care for their locations
tormentors are super cool balance wise, how it functions as just this structure that damages you as you hit it, it's not just some big bad dude chilling somewhere. it's also cool idea wise as another objective but hidden away far in a corner making players use more of the map
my only problem is it looks so boring, the effects are cool but it being just a colored cube is boring. it has such significance to aghanim with it probably literally being the stones his scepter are made of.... so why are they cubes and not shards or just straight up a giant crystal, and why is one red if they are supposed to be aghanims scepters crystals which are blue
and this is a very minor complaint but they really could've made its "death" more interesting right now it just dips down into its little hole again after dying, and there is no indication of how a player got a shard, why not give it these cracks as it has taken more and more dmg, that could also be a neat indication of how it functions visually cause you see the cracks disappear as it mends itself, but if you kill it there will now be visible chunks gone as the team has literally gotten the shards used for aghanims scepter of off killing it
@@LittleDanny9899 As if it was specifically designed to be done by 4-5 heroes from a team, not soloed on 10 minute by huskar with armlet.
@@LittleDanny9899 If you hero doesn't meaningfully contribute to dmg at least you will share some damage and help your team survive. Hoodwink doesn't do much to Roshan either but you still go and provide vision to your team, don't you?
I feel like universal heroes are broken in this mode unless they took universal out.
I think goodwin channel in youtube he is the one alchemist with 6 butterfly i think
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I can’t belive I guessed ti7 lol
For what it's worth I also blame your chat for everything.
Dude u should try sniper
it's more than quintuple daggers, 40:39 you hit 6 targets while the gold show 7 bounties
Nope it's quintuple keep in mind baumi has cleave from bf
@@acewingman372 but there difently was 6 daggers, all creeps died from first 2 daggers, that hits first two creeps, and there 4 dagger left
Tormentors are incredibly bad imo.
You need at least 3 people to do tormentors unless you have meepo or aomerhing. And those 3 heroes can't be the 3, 4, and 5. Maybe if the offlane is a carry offlaner, you can take it easily, but otherwise you either need your carry to disrupt their farming pattern to come, or the mid has to waste time and resource for a very meh objective.
Mos of the time, you usually have 1 support that has a good shard, and 1 that doesn't. The randomness makes it a low reward objective. If both supports have an incredibly good shard, they usually buy it anyway.
People take it if they have the advantage which is nice, but some line ups need to commit a lot of health to take it and it becomes pretty risky.
If you are ahead, going for your own tormentor gives the enemy so much space. Maybe you carry, or your mid is alone during that time and can be ganked. Either that, or you have to give up map control to do it.
Baumi can you please play a game of custom hero chaos
Yeah we have the same Birthday date but i dont know if same year mine is 31.07.94
i find tormentors to be a little late. people that want their shards asap will just buy em at 15 min because why wait 5min longer and hope you happen to be one of the 2 lowest networth heroes who gets the coinflip and gets shard when you could instead rush it after boots and get it 5min earlier and have it for the next 2 or so fights. as a carry there isnt much incentive for you yourself to really help with tormentors as it takes away from farming and can even put you at risk (if enemy team happens to scout it) and its not like you are gonna get the shard cuz you shouldnt be lowest nw hero on your team. (yes i know its still a big win for team but that doesnt mean it feels good)
overall i dont like em, as a support you pray you happen to actually get the shard, as a carry you have to go out of your way to go fight the thing instead of farming/pushing/fighting
i do like the idea of another boss just not the way they have done it
You did not have to build silver edge, your shard skill is a break, same effect when using silver edge
I think valve would just sell tornentors skins
I don't like Tormentors, or much of the new map to be honest. I think it's just making it harder for new players to learn all of the extraneous busywork needed to play the game optimally.
I'm a relatively new player and I don't agree with that sentiment tbh.
Lotus pool is something that you get used to very quick.
Tormentor destruction happens almost as rare as Roshan in my low skill games - both of them may as well not exist, their existence have little impact on the game.
I'd agree with your sentiment if you told me that low skill games did Roshan not late in the game on older maps, but otherwise it's the same as Tormentor.
Nevertheless, their purposes are something you learn early.
What I found to be the worst part in the map is actually the Wisdom runes. To my knowledge and experience, there's no way to learn when they spawn from within the game itself.
@@edmis90 as a veteran player.... all runes are FAR to complicated not just wisdom.... but i am extremely casual only playing a few turbo matches every now and then
@@LittleDanny9899 I guess i perhaps phrased it wrongly, I just see it as feature bloat where adding new things doesn't always improve a game by upping the complexity.
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is Lion's lvl 10 talent still that +60 dmg? i hate that f* talent of his
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tormentors are kind of annoying as it makes the game too much about just killing things at the perfect timing