Hey dude: I don't think that you are a fool. If you don't allow for any feelings you are not so human after all. Your stories inspire me and I would seriously like to give Thailand a try. Only problem is that I#m handicaped and can't walk for long distances and I don't dare to . I like your stories from meeting girls and going to grab some food with them getting shown some local stuff. But in my imagination that should all be difficult if you are bad on your feet. Don't loose your feelings! Better a fool than a complete asshole, as long as you keep a reasonable judgement, and you did that from what you told and I wouldn't call your time a rip off - you gave a lot you got a lot
Hi, sorry to hear about your disability but thought I’d like to share something with you. Occasionally I go to pattaya for a couple of weeks of the year, and I go with my friend who is also disabled and has a dodgy heart. So when we are hopping bar to bar we just take small breaks so he can catch his breath or jump on a baht bus even if it’s a short distance. Yeah the roads are trash, but it’s doable. If you’re bound to a wheel chair it will be a lot more difficult though. Give it a try for a week, stay in central pattaya so you don’t have to travel far 👍 I have also pinned your comment so if any other Thailand visitors with disabilities could give you some advice. Would hate for you to miss out on a great experience!
@@TalesBeyondHorizons my friend goes to pattayia most years and sadly he is wheel chair bound and he manages fine he has Ms the people are good and always helpful in restaurants bars etc. And he has great fun with the girls like the rest of us. Don't think twice you will have a great time. Just be careful and don't get overly friendly with the bar girls. Look at u tube and educate yourself and you will have the time of your life. No where in the world like pattayia. It will blow your mind. It did mine. Be street wise with these girls take them on your terms for the night and return them back in the morning in perfect condition. Ha ha
@@gonzothebonzo123, Hi, I use a manual wheelchair, can't walk but have well-trained arms and upper body. Do you think it will be possible to travel to Pattaya alone? Thanks
Thing is, it can work out or it can fail. Same with anyone, whether they are a bar girl or not. Plenty of people in normal relationships get dumped or cheated on after 7 years.
Thanks for sharing, this kind of stuff is very useful to prevent others from making the same mistake. I had a very similar experience to this guy, but with a girl from a North African country. Lots of phone calls, messages, interactions daily and then one day after about 3 years she just went cold and by this time I was tired of her games so I didn't chase after her, which deep down she probably wanted. She initially feigned heartbreak / offence but I could sense the direction the relationship was heading in so I let it go. 3 months later I checked her FB page and she was married to a short, unattractive, rich man in a huge ceremony Modern women are like handguns, 10 in the barrel and 1 in the chamber. Not saying 'AWALT' or black pilling, but men arm yourselves with this type of knowledge. This channel is outstanding
Heartbreak is never easy, especially after such a long journey together. Sometimes, these moments teach us the deepest lessons about love and life. Wishing strength and healing to those involved-may they find peace and new beginnings on the horizon. 💖🌿
These girls (most girls) want happiness and security in life for themselves and their kids; can't really judge her/be surprised for upgrading from someone who said he didn't want anything serious.
Thank you for sharing your experience in Thailand, it’s not too late Sir . I wish you all the best just be happy and always positive, have Faith and Hope 😊
Not so bad girl. She and you never have a serious commitment, engagement, married or a kid. So in reality she was just a girlfriend who likes you and she offer you a good time and a nice companion to Thailand. When she has the opportunity for a good safe life for her and her daughter,she go for it. So i think you are lucky to have in your Life so nice moments.
It’s ALL about the money! 💵💵💵 She went to the highest “bidder!” It was that other guy. What they do. Who can give me the most money! In this case for her and her daughter. When they have kids they are the number one thing on their mind. Not you. Not the guy. It’s all about securing a future for herself and her daughter. That’s it. The best thing to do is not get really involved. You can’t. Otherwise you are setting yourself up for hurt. Has to remain casual. Has to. These girls know how to play the game. They usually win too!
I wouldn't say its all about money. She probably wanted progress in the relationship. I mean marriage, a house, kids. etc. You can't keep a woman on girlfriend status for 7 years.
I too had a very similar story. I really liked this massage lady and we got a long well. But she too ghosted me and would not respond to my messages etc.. Her close cronies would lie for her at every turn. Once her farang left for his own country she would recontact me and say crap like "I miss you" and I stupidly went back to her. Long story short we parted ways and I try to avoid her as much as possible. In Pattaya money is truly Number One.
Yeah, this guy learned that she was cheating on the main guy with him! I was thinking when he asked a massage girl on a date “so you think you’re the first or last foreigner that will ask her out?” Another richer farang was already sponsoring her.
I've never been to Thailand but this story reminded me a lot of an experience I had with a girl in Costa Rica back in 2005. Lots of trips to see her, expensive phone bills, and eventual heartbreak as I was able to get her a visa to come see me and she used it to go see other guys in the US as well without telling me. It was one of the most intense affairs I've ever been through but in the end I knew she was betraying me and I let her go. In reality, no matter how much these type of women say they love you in the end it's all about them. They could actually care less about you if something they perceive as better comes along regardless of any investment financially or emotionally you've made into the relationship with them. Remember guys, you are the prize.
You did well, you had your fun and didn't get fleeced. Tbh everyone here who brought their Thai wives over are now split up and the Thai girls are now with wealthier men. All the Thai girls want is a visa to a better life.
Honestly this story isn’t so bad … we have all heard way worse . Some of this may have been the Norwegians fault. After so many years visiting her … did he offer to have her come to his country ?? It seems like she found someone who was willing to bring her to his country.He said he was willing to help support her but she never asked so he didn’t offer. Maybe if he helped a little she wouldn’t have moved on. I was in a 4 year relationship with a Filipina who had a good job ( not in the sex industry ) and I still helped her out a little from time to time .Not too much but when you’re in an actual relationship men often help their girlfriends(or women help their boyfriends). I broke up with her simply because I had grown bored of her. I felt like an ass because she’s a good person.
Similar story…..Thai boyfriend on the side who threatened to leave her if she didn’t break up with me…. Two weeks after our break up she traveled to Phuket with him…… it’s all about them. They try to take as much as they can from you until the well runs dry and then they move on. Love is not the same to them as it is to us….
Amazing how easily a Thai girl will trade up to a more richer farang …if they have kids, this is usually the case..I have seen it twice with my own eyes…
the moment a woman feels u are more into her , then she is into u.. its done.. her attraction drops.. no matter how long u are dated.. its biological.. u as men lead, is dominant and she cant get a hold of it.. that the proper balance, that mean in a relation ship she is reaching out to for 70% of the time, if this is out of balance, her attraction drops..
I think this girl proberly did like this guy!! From the story she never seemed to try to rinse him money wise but someone financially more viable came along and she took the opportunity and moved on.
Not sure what you expected. You didn't want a serious commitment, just a FWB even though you became closer than that. The other guy offered her a lot more. It seems you didn't get scammed so you should be thankful for that.
Heard this before , ages ago , she never asked for money , the only extras are meals and transport . The dude spent the money willingly and had no plan for a future with here . I avoid un married mothers !
It's kind of normal in Thailand. My girlfriend still speaks to her ex German fiancé a lot. I know this from Facebook because her profile isn't locked to friends only. The funny thing is I am going back in July to live with her on her farm. We only speak every other day now but she is excited I am coming. My guess is she is only trying to get money out of him and a few extra Wester men because she knows I don't give out much money so she doesn't ask.
He was her first choice and thats why he met the family but the other guy hadnt （yet). As he suspected,she was probably dating both at the same time but I think this could have worked and wasnt a “scam” in any sense.
Yep, exactly. If he would have been committed to her and offered her to marriage and move to his country, he would have won. They just look for the best provider, a pretty natural instinct and no different from the west.
@@gloofisearch I dont blame her tbh. These girls, whether bar girls or otherwise, are used to foreigners making promises and then disappearing. Its natural to keep a “backup mate” Arguably she kept hers way longer than was appropriate, but I think our guy played it wrong.
Great story, at least she did not take all his money like having house built and big sponsorship money monthly he waznt committing enough she knew that and took another guy who was going to commit more.. At least he saw the first red flag that he was so right about . 😮
eventully al woman wil lie soner or later . red flag .when they ask very rapidly privet info like adres were you live , che's allreddy thinking how to rip you off . carefull .
I think you were not a fool, you were careful, you haven’t given here cash, you only SPENT the money together, after 7 years she was very patient, and played long term but couldn’t see a lot of benefit from you. Merit of the story, a Thai girl has the time to be with more than one partner and she should play and she can provide same attention, but her radars working all the time for third or forth.
Weird observation but I can’t help but notice all the plastic bags! Yet here in little New Zealand they are more or less banned. What hope is there if places like Thailand won’t abandon plastic bags?
Hey dude: I don't think that you are a fool. If you don't allow for any feelings you are not so human after all. Your stories inspire me and I would seriously like to give Thailand a try. Only problem is that I#m handicaped and can't walk for long distances and I don't dare to . I like your stories from meeting girls and going to grab some food with them getting shown some local stuff. But in my imagination that should all be difficult if you are bad on your feet. Don't loose your feelings! Better a fool than a complete asshole, as long as you keep a reasonable judgement, and you did that from what you told and I wouldn't call your time a rip off - you gave a lot you got a lot
Hi, sorry to hear about your disability but thought I’d like to share something with you.
Occasionally I go to pattaya for a couple of weeks of the year, and I go with my friend who is also disabled and has a dodgy heart. So when we are hopping bar to bar we just take small breaks so he can catch his breath or jump on a baht bus even if it’s a short distance.
Yeah the roads are trash, but it’s doable. If you’re bound to a wheel chair it will be a lot more difficult though.
Give it a try for a week, stay in central pattaya so you don’t have to travel far 👍
I have also pinned your comment so if any other Thailand visitors with disabilities could give you some advice. Would hate for you to miss out on a great experience!
@@TalesBeyondHorizons my friend goes to pattayia most years and sadly he is wheel chair bound and he manages fine he has Ms the people are good and always helpful in restaurants bars etc. And he has great fun with the girls like the rest of us. Don't think twice you will have a great time. Just be careful and don't get overly friendly with the bar girls. Look at u tube and educate yourself and you will have the time of your life. No where in the world like pattayia. It will blow your mind. It did mine. Be street wise with these girls take them on your terms for the night and return them back in the morning in perfect condition. Ha ha
@@TalesBeyondHorizons Thanks for your ideas - no wheelchair yet, the baht bus idea sounds good - I hope it's something like a cheap taxi
@@gonzothebonzo123, Hi, I use a manual wheelchair, can't walk but have well-trained arms and upper body. Do you think it will be possible to travel to Pattaya alone? Thanks
Thing is, it can work out or it can fail. Same with anyone, whether they are a bar girl or not. Plenty of people in normal relationships get dumped or cheated on after 7 years.
He had fun and from the sound of it she didn’t fleece him, I’d see that as a win to be honest
She did kind of fleece him, but at least not to the point of destitution
A cheated heart may be harder to heal than an emptied wallet.
Thanks for sharing, this kind of stuff is very useful to prevent others from making the same mistake. I had a very similar experience to this guy, but with a girl from a North African country. Lots of phone calls, messages, interactions daily and then one day after about 3 years she just went cold and by this time I was tired of her games so I didn't chase after her, which deep down she probably wanted. She initially feigned heartbreak / offence but I could sense the direction the relationship was heading in so I let it go. 3 months later I checked her FB page and she was married to a short, unattractive, rich man in a huge ceremony
Modern women are like handguns, 10 in the barrel and 1 in the chamber. Not saying 'AWALT' or black pilling, but men arm yourselves with this type of knowledge. This channel is outstanding
Heartbreak is never easy, especially after such a long journey together. Sometimes, these moments teach us the deepest lessons about love and life. Wishing strength and healing to those involved-may they find peace and new beginnings on the horizon. 💖🌿
These girls (most girls) want happiness and security in life for themselves and their kids; can't really judge her/be surprised for upgrading from someone who said he didn't want anything serious.
Thank you for sharing your experience in Thailand, it’s not too late Sir . I wish you all the best just be happy and always positive, have Faith and Hope 😊
Not so bad girl. She and you never have a serious commitment, engagement, married or a kid.
So in reality she was just a girlfriend who likes you and she offer you a good time and a nice companion to Thailand. When she has the opportunity for a good safe life for her and her daughter,she go for it.
So i think you are lucky to have in your Life so nice moments.
It’s ALL about the money! 💵💵💵
She went to the highest “bidder!” It was that other guy. What they do. Who can give me the most money! In this case for her and her daughter. When they have kids they are the number one thing on their mind. Not you. Not the guy. It’s all about securing a future for herself and her daughter. That’s it. The best thing to do is not get really involved. You can’t. Otherwise you are setting yourself up for hurt. Has to remain casual. Has to. These girls know how to play the game. They usually win too!
What would you say to married men whose wives deprioritize them and cut off sex after having kids?
I wouldn't say its all about money. She probably wanted progress in the relationship. I mean marriage, a house, kids. etc. You can't keep a woman on girlfriend status for 7 years.
I too had a very similar story. I really liked this massage lady and we got a long well. But she too ghosted me and would not respond to my messages etc.. Her close cronies would lie for her at every turn. Once her farang left for his own country she would recontact me and say crap like "I miss you" and I stupidly went back to her. Long story short we parted ways and I try to avoid her as much as possible. In Pattaya money is truly Number One.
Sounds like my massage lady 😂😂
@@iantravis5530and mine!
Yeah, this guy learned that she was cheating on the main guy with him! I was thinking when he asked a massage girl on a date “so you think you’re the first or last foreigner that will ask her out?” Another richer farang was already sponsoring her.
I've never been to Thailand but this story reminded me a lot of an experience I had with a girl in Costa Rica back in 2005. Lots of trips to see her, expensive phone bills, and eventual heartbreak as I was able to get her a visa to come see me and she used it to go see other guys in the US as well without telling me. It was one of the most intense affairs I've ever been through but in the end I knew she was betraying me and I let her go. In reality, no matter how much these type of women say they love you in the end it's all about them. They could actually care less about you if something they perceive as better comes along regardless of any investment financially or emotionally you've made into the relationship with them. Remember guys, you are the prize.
Shes never yours. Its just your turn
😮
How long is the line?
You did well, you had your fun and didn't get fleeced. Tbh everyone here who brought their Thai wives over are now split up and the Thai girls are now with wealthier men. All the Thai girls want is a visa to a better life.
You didn’t lose much money. Sounds like you paid for companionship but didn’t get hosed. Positive outcome 😊
Just a normal Bangkok/Pattaya story.
The old line applies, guys think, hope their one is "different".
Honestly this story isn’t so bad … we have all heard way worse . Some of this may have been the Norwegians fault. After so many years visiting her … did he offer to have her come to his country ?? It seems like she found someone who was willing to bring her to his country.He said he was willing to help support her but she never asked so he didn’t offer. Maybe if he helped a little she wouldn’t have moved on. I was in a 4 year relationship with a Filipina who had a good job ( not in the sex industry ) and I still helped her out a little from time to time .Not too much but when you’re in an actual relationship men often help their girlfriends(or women help their boyfriends). I broke up with her simply because I had grown bored of her. I felt like an ass because she’s a good person.
Similar story…..Thai boyfriend on the side who threatened to leave her if she didn’t break up with me…. Two weeks after our break up she traveled to Phuket with him…… it’s all about them. They try to take as much as they can from you until the well runs dry and then they move on. Love is not the same to them as it is to us….
happens in every country in the world. You had fun, move on
Amazing how easily a Thai girl will trade up to a more richer farang …if they have kids, this is usually the case..I have seen it twice with my own eyes…
the moment a woman feels u are more into her , then she is into u.. its done.. her attraction drops.. no matter how long u are dated.. its biological.. u as men lead, is dominant and she cant get a hold of it.. that the proper balance, that mean in a relation ship she is reaching out to for 70% of the time, if this is out of balance, her attraction drops..
I think this girl proberly did like this guy!! From the story she never seemed to try to rinse him money wise but someone financially more viable came along and she took the opportunity and moved on.
It always ends in tears.
Not sure what you expected. You didn't want a serious commitment, just a FWB even though you became closer than that. The other guy offered her a lot more. It seems you didn't get scammed so you should be thankful for that.
Heard this before , ages ago , she never asked for money , the only extras are meals and transport .
The dude spent the money willingly and had no plan for a future with here .
I avoid un married mothers !
wow.. 7 years is a long time... he did well.. it should have been 7 mos. tops
7 weeks. 😂😅😊
What a great **Cautionary Tale**.... something for us grown men to consider. The hypergamy is real.
It's kind of normal in Thailand. My girlfriend still speaks to her ex German fiancé a lot. I know this from Facebook because her profile isn't locked to friends only. The funny thing is I am going back in July to live with her on her farm. We only speak every other day now but she is excited I am coming. My guess is she is only trying to get money out of him and a few extra Wester men because she knows I don't give out much money so she doesn't ask.
Then why are you going back to her?
Sure, if that's what you need to tell yourself
It's not normal my friend.
dummy😂😂
Living with her now, it's a give and take relationship. I live here for free, pay for any improvements I want to do. She doesn't ask for much
He was her first choice and thats why he met the family but the other guy hadnt （yet). As he suspected,she was probably dating both at the same time but I think this could have worked and wasnt a “scam” in any sense.
Yep, exactly. If he would have been committed to her and offered her to marriage and move to his country, he would have won. They just look for the best provider, a pretty natural instinct and no different from the west.
@@gloofisearch I dont blame her tbh. These girls, whether bar girls or otherwise, are used to foreigners making promises and then disappearing. Its natural to keep a “backup mate” Arguably she kept hers way longer than was appropriate, but I think our guy played it wrong.
@@gloofisearchwould have worked for a while anyways…character matters, no matter what your culture.
Great story, at least she did not take all his money like having house built and big sponsorship money monthly he waznt committing enough she knew that and took another guy who was going to commit more.. At least he saw the first red flag that he was so right about . 😮
Why didn’t you move to her ? Or she to you ?
You can’t expect her to not want more outta life than Skype
eventully al woman wil lie soner or later . red flag .when they ask very rapidly privet info like adres were you live ,
che's allreddy thinking how to rip you off . carefull .
I not sure how someone could not catch on that she was not telling the truth for 7 years
As saying goes: Holy place is never empty. So: As soon as he was out another worshipper was in.
I think you were not a fool, you were careful, you haven’t given here cash, you only SPENT the money together, after 7 years she was very patient, and played long term but couldn’t see a lot of benefit from you. Merit of the story, a Thai girl has the time to be with more than one partner and she should play and she can provide same attention, but her radars working all the time for third or forth.
Great cautionary story on life for a westerner in thailand. Can anyone tell me how well i can live in thailand on $8,600/month for retirement?
Assuming you mean US Dollars you can live very well
You can live like a king is that's $8,600 USD
I don't think you can get residency at all as a westerner even if you take on a Thai bride with $ in the bank.
Weird observation but I can’t help but notice all the plastic bags! Yet here in little New Zealand they are more or less banned. What hope is there if places like Thailand won’t abandon plastic bags?
At least she was not a gold digger, many stories here ended up with guys losing tonnes of monies
Man are the most important source of income.
They can't earn that much money in other ways.
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Never Ever Trust What These Women Say it’s all about getting what they want and Money!!!!!!
Been there done that.
No big deal. Nothing is for free.