1000% one of the best current BMW's 1 - Proper iDrive controls 2 - Proper AC controls 3 - Amazing Engine 4 - Good sized grills...... 5 - Fun to drive... How can you go wrong with that!
@@arizonacolour8793it is pretty ugly. I hate when people say “well compared to” as if that’s a good argument in anyway lol ugly is ugly, wtf is less ugly?
Sad but true. In this dystopian BMW design scheme we have to be satisfied with a 7 out of 10 car that has kind of a "rich executive" suit and tie look rather than aggression and muscles under the skin look I would like to see more of.
have had bmws for over 30 years. But the new ones have lost all the bmw looks. front end looks like a skoda. And the guy that was head at the M department got tired of the topp brass suits didnt let him build the cars like he wanted. He went to Hyundai and started with the Hyunday N cars.
@@evidencenutrition > And stupid easy to tune I wish. Newer BMWs are a pain to tune. Gotta remove the DME, ship it to finland to be unlocked, get a license for tuning software, have software installed, reinstall DME, then load your maps. Definitely not easy compared to something like a WRX or Mustang where you can buy a handheld tuner and get the car tuned in 15 minutes. They do make good power with a tune and bolt ons. It's just expensive, time-consuming and nerve-wracking to get them tuned.
Had both a base 718 boxster 2.0 and a z4 m40i. Here is the real world list of pro/con: Z4: + much more comfortable on cruise and highway + Engine noise is better at low rpm + Easier to rev on open road (see boxster below) + More practical (one bigger trunk is better than 2 small trunk - steering wheel feel numb - feel heavy to drive and less controlled that the boxster - gearbox feel slow on paddle rev - no ventilated seat - over 2 year lots of issue so I recommend buying on warranty - average on track (but both car are extremely expensive for tracking so unless you are very wealthy) Boxster 2.0: + feels sturdier in terms of quality + super fun to launch and in every day usage (thanks to the sport chrono button) + feels faster even on base boxster (less insulated) + steering wheel best in class + Porsche community is great (people hail on the road and so forth) + ventilated seat ! + only car that I sold for more than I bought - issue with gearbox for open road rev, 7k rpm in 2nd gear goes at 120km/h… so you go in 1st gear sometime 🤣 feels bad - less practical - less comfortable on highway - Porsche premium warranty program is expensive
I've been looking at both on the used market and the biggest difference is that a low mileage, loaded Z4 M40i will have decreased ~$20K in price in 2 years, which has been very tempting to me to go get a used one. A used 2023 Boxster S would've originally cost around $85K, and 2 years later, it's STILL somewhere going for around $85K lol.
@@JOBNUMBER The Boxster is a 4 banger, which turns off a lot of people. I owned 2 Boxster S's, both 981s with the 6, they were brilliant, but expensive to buy and expensive to maintain. I was offered an allocation for a 2024 Boxster GTS which would have had the 6, but throw in a couple options and you're at $140k.....ridiculous, especially for something you can't park outside in the rain without risk of water ruining the electronics inside the cabin.
Holy shit! I had no idea they brought back the manual. I just spec'd mine out on BMW's website. $77k USD. I can't wait to buy it in 5 years when it's half price!
You are not going to get this half-price in the used market dude. Because simply there are going to be a lot fewer than the auto and when it goes out of production in 2026 these just may be future classics with a price over their current price.
Now you're just dreaming too big. I seriously doubt that BMW would do that, but I believed them when they said no manual in the Zed too. Bring back the two-door hatchback!
So glad they made this. Even though I wasn’t about to go and buy one, it was just upsetting to me that it wasn’t available with a manual; especially with the low/cramped ceiling situation in the Supra. This is a special car, an inline 6 convertible that ‘only’ weighs 3300lbs. The manual gods are smiling down on BMW for this one.
I own a 2023 Z4 automatic... so while manual is fun, even the automatic is a GREAT roadster. Nothing beats it for every day use, plus fun use, plus road trips. A good size trunk (better than other roadsters), quiet ride when the soft top is up. So much goodness.
I always look forward new videos for contrasting discussion approach between Jacob and Yuri. Jacob focusing on primary issues such as steering and ride versus Yuri focusing on tertiary issues such as rewinding stations and stickers. Always a laugh, especially when Jacob forced to ignore the silly stuff.
Back in the 90's and 00's these kinds of roadsters were everywhere - Z3/Z4, Audi TT, Miata, Mercedes SLK - it as was a good time for sports cars and convertibles. This new Z4, even if not perfect - is now really the only one left. The Boxster is a slightly different thing, but obviously the most natural competitor. Still - B58, manual, roadster, not "crazy" money - and way more power than anything from that golden era... It's a cool ride and we will look back on these as special cars, because they won't sell many. I barely ever see new Z4's on the road.
Hey Jakub, I think you can program one of the 1-8 buttons to deactivate the gear assistant. Just go the gear assistat menu and press hold for example the number 1 button. Then anytime you press the 1 button, it‘ll activate or deactivate.
I think one of the coolest parts of owning this chassis would be pulling up to BMW cars and coffee meets in "not just another G80 M3 or G87 M2". Real talk so few of these sell, throw some better wheels on here with a proper fitment and you have an easy show stopper
My next car…hopefully. Ticks all the boxes: you get the manual, you can get the Thundernight Metallic purple, and 382 HP. But you never mentioned “Handschalter.” Fail!
I was waiting for this review - thank you! A bit disappointed to hear that the transmission is typical-BMW rubbery, since I had heard earlier that BMW had supposedly done some work in that regard. But I won't ever complain that BMW put a manual option on a car...I'd still take this over the auto 100%.
It's over dampened for sure. It for sure doesn't feel organic like the Miata's or S2000's. It feels like it's there to do a job, and not particularly enjoying the job.
Yes, there was an M Roadster in the Z3. Don’t know about Canada, but the story is the same as the E36 M3 in the US. It came with only 240 hp initially, but as the E46 was launched, it was finally given a proper M motor, making 315 hp.
The Porsche Boxster is not super comfortable, it is a real sports car. Comfortable compared to your typical track maybe, but definitely not comfortable overall (girls don't like to ride in them as passengers, that is the test)
@@nafnaf0 I have both in my garage (Cayman GTS 4.0, not a Boxter). My wife drives both and the ride is equal on the comfort setting. However, the sport ride on the Cayman is much stiffer than the Z4. It actually lowers the car too! The seats on the Cayman are more comfortable than the Z4 and fit me better.
I know purists won't like this comment because of the previous designs from most of the older models, but I think this looks the absolute best. I've never wanted one until I saw this driving in the streets of Torrance, CA... I also really love the Supra that we're comparing this to
Both cars, the Toyota and the BMW share the B58. But the BMW wins the cool-o-meter. My grandmother loves her Toyota sedan, even though Toyota just told her they have to replace her car’s engine, along with 120,000 other people’s engines. Oh-oh, guess the quality control guy at Toyota went on vacation.
The Porsche 718 Boxster is the only competition with a manual for this Z4.. That's more expensive but also offers superior handling (it's basically a previous gen (991) 911 with better midengine layout).. The Porsche is more of a pure sportscar than the BMW.. The Z4 is more like a luxury GT-cruiser.. And it's a Porsche, just the badge alone makes it worth more..
I have been eyeing this car for months!! At first I was thinking about the Supra MT but I do want a convertible that has more power and tech than a Miata
It's a pretty cool car. How often do car reviewers get to roll a real soft-top convertible with a six speed manual and enough power to put a grin on their faces. Hint: not very often.
Would be so nice if they gave it the circular dual exhausts they used to do. I hate the trapezoids! Something always a little off to me with Z front ends, but overall still looks great. B58 is so fun!
At around 5 minutes why couldn’t you guys think Boxster?
Probably because the engines in the back/middle
And it’s 4cyl for at least 15k more.
@@TheStraightPipes it’s still a comfortable, convertible, manual. You didn’t say anything about front or mid engine…still love you guys lol
@@laloloco14 it will hold its value better than a Z4. I’d rather have the Boxster even if it is a bit slower.
@@cavaseno You'd rather have a base boxster with 4 cylinders over the 6cyl BMW for less money? That is quite literally the definition of materialism.
1000% one of the best current BMW's
1 - Proper iDrive controls
2 - Proper AC controls
3 - Amazing Engine
4 - Good sized grills......
5 - Fun to drive...
How can you go wrong with that!
Except the front end is ugly. Looks shocked.
@@arizonacolour8793 Its gorgeous by todays monstrosity standards...
@@arizonacolour8793it is pretty ugly. I hate when people say “well compared to” as if that’s a good argument in anyway lol ugly is ugly, wtf is less ugly?
Sad but true. In this dystopian BMW design scheme we have to be satisfied with a 7 out of 10 car that has kind of a "rich executive" suit and tie look rather than aggression and muscles under the skin look I would like to see more of.
have had bmws for over 30 years. But the new ones have lost all the bmw looks. front end looks like a skoda. And the guy that was head at the M department got tired of the topp brass suits didnt let him build the cars like he wanted. He went to Hyundai and started with the Hyunday N cars.
Probably one of the most underrated cars. As a fun weekend car, throw an exhaust on it and it rips. Fast enough for the road, comfortable, not $200k.
And stupid easy to tune 😈
@@evidencenutrition > And stupid easy to tune
I wish. Newer BMWs are a pain to tune. Gotta remove the DME, ship it to finland to be unlocked, get a license for tuning software, have software installed, reinstall DME, then load your maps.
Definitely not easy compared to something like a WRX or Mustang where you can buy a handheld tuner and get the car tuned in 15 minutes.
They do make good power with a tune and bolt ons. It's just expensive, time-consuming and nerve-wracking to get them tuned.
@@BrianBeckmanseriously? How about a 2018 340? Same thing? Does the gen of the b58 matter?
@@jaioncebollero1168no a 2018 340 dose not have a locked ecu
@@Bluestingergt thank you
The B58 is a marvel.
Sad day when its retired one day. Its the only reason why I'd consider buying a BMW is because of the B58.
Had both a base 718 boxster 2.0 and a z4 m40i. Here is the real world list of pro/con:
Z4:
+ much more comfortable on cruise and highway
+ Engine noise is better at low rpm
+ Easier to rev on open road (see boxster below)
+ More practical (one bigger trunk is better than 2 small trunk
- steering wheel feel numb
- feel heavy to drive and less controlled that the boxster
- gearbox feel slow on paddle rev
- no ventilated seat
- over 2 year lots of issue so I recommend buying on warranty
- average on track (but both car are extremely expensive for tracking so unless you are very wealthy)
Boxster 2.0:
+ feels sturdier in terms of quality
+ super fun to launch and in every day usage (thanks to the sport chrono button)
+ feels faster even on base boxster (less insulated)
+ steering wheel best in class
+ Porsche community is great (people hail on the road and so forth)
+ ventilated seat !
+ only car that I sold for more than I bought
- issue with gearbox for open road rev, 7k rpm in 2nd gear goes at 120km/h… so you go in 1st gear sometime 🤣 feels bad
- less practical
- less comfortable on highway
- Porsche premium warranty program is expensive
The $75k USD loaded price seems crazy at first but a well equipped Boxster S is way over $100k now.
I've been looking at both on the used market and the biggest difference is that a low mileage, loaded Z4 M40i will have decreased ~$20K in price in 2 years, which has been very tempting to me to go get a used one. A used 2023 Boxster S would've originally cost around $85K, and 2 years later, it's STILL somewhere going for around $85K lol.
@@JOBNUMBER The Boxster is a 4 banger, which turns off a lot of people. I owned 2 Boxster S's, both 981s with the 6, they were brilliant, but expensive to buy and expensive to maintain. I was offered an allocation for a 2024 Boxster GTS which would have had the 6, but throw in a couple options and you're at $140k.....ridiculous, especially for something you can't park outside in the rain without risk of water ruining the electronics inside the cabin.
That Z4 is a future classic.
yo Horatiu your review is fire tho, the z4 handschalter is a gem
Holy shit! I had no idea they brought back the manual. I just spec'd mine out on BMW's website. $77k USD. I can't wait to buy it in 5 years when it's half price!
Don't even have to wait 5 years. Give it about 3-4 yrs. 2020-2022 Z4s are selling 50% MSRP right now.
But the downside to that approach is that they are not selling well, so there could be very few on the used car market 😢
The manual is only going to be in production for 2 years. In April 2026, it's gone. There won't be many of these.
Same. Though I’d rather just spend extra and get a lotus
You are not going to get this half-price in the used market dude. Because simply there are going to be a lot fewer than the auto and when it goes out of production in 2026 these just may be future classics with a price over their current price.
I had that press car back in June. It was awesome ! The manual transforms the car.
any noticeable rev-hang?
FINALLY a review of this car on a major YT car channel. Mine has been on order for months and is now at the port awaiting departure to the US.
The shooting break concept with a manual would be the dream…BMW make it now.
Me too, would have loved to buy it used in 10 years 💸💸💸
@@Marc_prime that’s exactly what I thought too 😂
Now you're just dreaming too big. I seriously doubt that BMW would do that, but I believed them when they said no manual in the Zed too. Bring back the two-door hatchback!
Won't happen
So glad they made this. Even though I wasn’t about to go and buy one, it was just upsetting to me that it wasn’t available with a manual; especially with the low/cramped ceiling situation in the Supra. This is a special car, an inline 6 convertible that ‘only’ weighs 3300lbs. The manual gods are smiling down on BMW for this one.
Bravo on the audio of this video. No wind noise when you are driving a convertible top down. Impressive gear or software.
No software 👍
Hands down, the most beautiful BMW in the current lineup.
I own a 2023 Z4 automatic... so while manual is fun, even the automatic is a GREAT roadster. Nothing beats it for every day use, plus fun use, plus road trips. A good size trunk (better than other roadsters), quiet ride when the soft top is up. So much goodness.
2000 M Roadster manual was the most fun vehicle I've ever owned.
Same here... the most car I regret selling
With the S54. They are currently the cleanest way to get into an M engine.
When Jakub rips- Yuri looks scared
When Yuri rips- Jakub is having fun
both acting
I always look forward new videos for contrasting discussion approach between Jacob and Yuri. Jacob focusing on primary issues such as steering and ride versus Yuri focusing on tertiary issues such as rewinding stations and stickers. Always a laugh, especially when Jacob forced to ignore the silly stuff.
I drove this exact press car. It rips!
I loved it as well. I had one for a few hours when I was getting the oil changed on my M4C.
Back in the 90's and 00's these kinds of roadsters were everywhere - Z3/Z4, Audi TT, Miata, Mercedes SLK - it as was a good time for sports cars and convertibles. This new Z4, even if not perfect - is now really the only one left. The Boxster is a slightly different thing, but obviously the most natural competitor. Still - B58, manual, roadster, not "crazy" money - and way more power than anything from that golden era... It's a cool ride and we will look back on these as special cars, because they won't sell many. I barely ever see new Z4's on the road.
Hate most new cars, but a red one of these caught my eye. Looks really good inside and out.
Hey Jakub, I think you can program one of the 1-8 buttons to deactivate the gear assistant. Just go the gear assistat menu and press hold for example the number 1 button. Then anytime you press the 1 button, it‘ll activate or deactivate.
took mine home 2weeks ago in SRG, great car and entertaining review gents
Finally a nicely designed BMW! Easily tops their current lineup. Also it being manual is a major +
The 718 Spyder!!!!!!!!!!!!!🥶
Until the new one comes out 😢
@@jasonhestandSadly no more ICE boxster. They only make Spyder RS which is $200k+
@@user-nifinei34jd9 I know. Was commenting to that.
In my opinion the best looking
Car on sale today
100% agree, best looking BMW right now 👌 💯 👏 the front end is so mean. Now stop talking about it, so the aftermarket prices stay low!!!
no no no, talk about it more so people buy them so that BMW will keep making them.
Keep BMW making them, I don’t want to buy an M car just to get a manual.
I think one of the coolest parts of owning this chassis would be pulling up to BMW cars and coffee meets in "not just another G80 M3 or G87 M2". Real talk so few of these sell, throw some better wheels on here with a proper fitment and you have an easy show stopper
I like the shift knob, it feels quite retro in it's design
I have a G29 Z4 M40i and it’s an absolute blast to drive. Favorite car I’ve owned for daily driving.
love Yuri's little smirk during his first launch there
My next car…hopefully. Ticks all the boxes: you get the manual, you can get the Thundernight Metallic purple, and 382 HP.
But you never mentioned “Handschalter.” Fail!
I was waiting for this review - thank you! A bit disappointed to hear that the transmission is typical-BMW rubbery, since I had heard earlier that BMW had supposedly done some work in that regard. But I won't ever complain that BMW put a manual option on a car...I'd still take this over the auto 100%.
They did improve it
@@TheStraightPipes The problem is where they started.
It was improved, but it's not yet at the level of a Cayman GTS for example. Still a better gearbox than in the M2 and M3/M4
This seems more like a GT car/ cruising car for car enthusiasts who on a few occasions do spirited driving.
But the softness makes it a good daily.
I approve of Yuri's convertible sun protection.
Wow great video ❤
Porsche!!! Boxster!! Come on guys
"...being honest gets people mad" - Quote of the decade.
I'll call it rubbery. Miata 6 speed for the win
It's over dampened for sure. It for sure doesn't feel organic like the Miata's or S2000's. It feels like it's there to do a job, and not particularly enjoying the job.
Yes, there was an M Roadster in the Z3. Don’t know about Canada, but the story is the same as the E36 M3 in the US. It came with only 240 hp initially, but as the E46 was launched, it was finally given a proper M motor, making 315 hp.
Boxter is super comfortable.
The Porsche Boxster is not super comfortable, it is a real sports car. Comfortable compared to your typical track maybe, but definitely not comfortable overall (girls don't like to ride in them as passengers, that is the test)
@@nafnaf0 I have both in my garage (Cayman GTS 4.0, not a Boxter). My wife drives both and the ride is equal on the comfort setting. However, the sport ride on the Cayman is much stiffer than the Z4. It actually lowers the car too! The seats on the Cayman are more comfortable than the Z4 and fit me better.
Not for pocket
I been waiting on this review.
I will always be a B58 fanboy, it just seems the perfect power and reliability and they can put it in everything
This was such a funny video, loved it. As a supra owner, and with family who all owns convertible cars, C5 vette and SLK Benz, i WANT ONE.
Love this car and I considered buying it but I ended up with a 340i. Better daily.
Oh really? You must be one of the smartest people on this planet
Green BMWs rock!
5:00 The Mustang? V8, front engine, rear wheel drive, a comfy cruiser. Very similar to this one albeit +2 cyls. Or -2 cyls on the Ecoboost.
Cognac door inserts would be nice.
the metalic green looks on point so gorgeous
I know purists won't like this comment because of the previous designs from most of the older models, but I think this looks the absolute best. I've never wanted one until I saw this driving in the streets of Torrance, CA... I also really love the Supra that we're comparing this to
Both cars, the Toyota and the BMW share the B58. But the BMW wins the cool-o-meter. My grandmother loves her Toyota sedan, even though Toyota just told her they have to replace her car’s engine, along with 120,000 other people’s engines. Oh-oh, guess the quality control guy at Toyota went on vacation.
Im really happy to see another great car on the market with a manual!
I really like the look of this. Nice to have a manual option.
underrated platform
I’ve been waiting for this video 🎉 cheers.
Dream car right there. Thank you guys for this review, feels like my birthday.
Happy birthday!
Others have said it has a better less rubbery stick than the M2 / M3 / M4, but still a little rubbery. Sounds like it is pretty good overall
Exactly what we said
The Porsche 718 Boxster is the only competition with a manual for this Z4.. That's more expensive but also offers superior handling (it's basically a previous gen (991) 911 with better midengine layout).. The Porsche is more of a pure sportscar than the BMW.. The Z4 is more like a luxury GT-cruiser.. And it's a Porsche, just the badge alone makes it worth more..
Agree 👍🏿
How about a c8
@@rgstar7702 Everytime I see that car I think it's gonna transform into some Autobot or something.. 🤣
And no manual..
You forgot about the 911 cab manual. Very comfortable car
Lexus LC500? M4 and M8 Convertibles too. Corvette convertible also comes in around the price of the Z4 m40i too.
Viewing from the future 🙋♂️ Bros haven't fell off..
How 😮
Fallen*
He is a member
Past... 4 days ago...
He pays actual money to watch a video early
I’m renting one in Germany next week, I’m very excited
@6:36 favorite looking BMW... Of course. It's the only one that looks good now, plus it has a manual transmission. It's "the" desirable BMW, period.
Really nice car, love the Design, love the "formactor" and the Engine
Yesss, best spec z4
Please make a video on 2024 Mercedes AMG GT 4 door
Jacob, nice looking Pepsi you have on your wrist there!
I was shopping for an Z4 40i but bought a Shelby GT 350. I still want a Z4 😎
The dark green paint complements the commando hat style well
That shooting brake concert looks amazing. Too bad I’d never be able to afford it.
it looks like roadster from FIAT
Agreed! 6:35 this is so beautiful
I love that you always include the half, Jakub. I, too, am in the 6'1 1/2" club, and always include it as well!
🤔🧐💯 🤪😂
Always gotta be accurate and honest
@@TheStraightPipes You realize I have to start calling it out every time you say it now that you've acknowledged our mutual existence, right?! 😆💯
The Boxster is a direct competitor to this car, manual convertible reasonably comfy sports car
Correct
BMW guys, make the hard-top concept car !!!!!!!!! Will be one of your greatest hit to the market !!!!!!
mini cooper convertible is available in manual i think, boxter too
I have been eyeing this car for months!! At first I was thinking about the Supra MT but I do want a convertible that has more power and tech than a Miata
Man they seem so excited
It's a pretty cool car. How often do car reviewers get to roll a real soft-top convertible with a six speed manual and enough power to put a grin on their faces. Hint: not very often.
2024 Miata right now in base trim 35k CAD w discounts applied !!!
12:24. Love your edits 😂
That was an edit? Lmao looked real
Great work guys. Keep it up.
The fact that it has hard buttons makes it better than any of these new bmw's!
I wonder if this manual has rev-hang like the Supra has??
Those seats are beautiful
Props to Yuri's hat. He's beating melanoma.
The competition car you were looking apart from Miata are Mini coopers, they're convertible that come with a manual in a budget. I think.
Such a cool car, I currently have the supra 6mt but the convertible is tempting
How about using one of the programmable function buttons to switch off the gearbox assistant?
That wheel size difference is going to be a pain in the ass when it comes to tire wear and tire rotations.
as a miata driver it's a little crazy that the next rung up the Manual Convertible ladder is 3x the miata's cost
I had a m340i Xdrive...i always said if it had a manual option it would be the perfect car.
Yes. Exactly. ZEE 4. Just like ZEE 06. Or a ZEE F transmission
Is the manual in this new z4 better than the manual in the new M2 ?
Looks like a fun car to drive. What's the price difference between the Supra?
Would be so nice if they gave it the circular dual exhausts they used to do. I hate the trapezoids! Something always a little off to me with Z front ends, but overall still looks great. B58 is so fun!
it matches the body lines imo
Get the B48 and you'll have the round exhaust tips.
Did you try setting the gear shift assistant to one of the 1-8 buttons?
Hello! Porsche Boxster Manual is a convertible but of course it’s over $100k with a six cylinder.
I wonder how the hardtop will look I’ve always like the older hardtop bubble . Z4 bubble top hard core addition?
Looks very similar to the 2017-2020 Abarth 124 Spider. Curious, is it bigger than the Fiat? Looks like it has more interior room… wider?
Love my Thundernight Metallic Z4 Auto =D
Wished they had the green for Auto
Is the B58 basically the 2jz successor?
You could possibly program this setting under number button in this iDrive.