I don't fpv, but I still have my original tx16s in gold, I love it and it brings back nostalgia for me, like the futaba gold radios. But it's so popular because you can't name any other brand that offers upgrades that you actually do yourself.. its like having a hotrod, you can upgrade it any way you want.
Have a original Radiomaster, upgraded it four months ago with gold cnc parts and new sticks, but after this review I'll be buying a Mark II next week lol. Great review Andy.
Have the first silver TX16S MAX and love it. For me not enough difference to change to the Mark II though. Next purchase for it is the Five33 MCK thumbsticks, find the original a little bit to slippery sometimes. Still running OpenTX but is going to swap for EdgeTX soon. You can't go wrong with eather version of the radio I think. Great radio overall! Great informative review Andy!
I purchased markII with the 4 in 1 version and a ELRS Happy Model module too I fly a lot of airplanes with Spektrum receivers. And I have two drones with ELRS receivers. I will not be upgrading the gimbals,too expensive.
Wow Pal thanks so much you help me make the final decision on my next purchase of a controller!!! I'm a noob and started out with a Emax Tinyhwak freestyle 2 RTF kit. Didn't know there was so much to learn for this hobby thank God for TH-cam!!! I have already swapped out the box goggles for Fat Shark Attitude V6 goggles with Rapid Fire. Being a noob the 4 in 1 multi protocol is nice and module bay for future proof is also nice for later purchase of different drones!!!
Fantastic review, Andy!!! 😃 After all the backlash of FrSky I'm happy that a brand like Radiomaster showed up in the market! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Great review Andy, I always enjoy watching your videos. Just so you know, RadioMaster does sell a removable antenna mod under TX16S Accessories, so you could buy that when purchasing a new radio from them and add that mod as soon as you get it (I ordered one and am waiting for it to get here!) Additionally, for the modules - I have the full Crossfire Tx too, and I’ve found that the best way to get it into the radio is to put the module in the bay, then press down on each side’s release tabs. That seems to get it in without too much trouble (at least for me) and it means I’m not pressing on the expensive module, but rather the cheap to replace JR bay adapter. I got the MCK edition simply because I’m a sucker for that PVD (Plasma Vapor Deposition) look. Finally, for the hole in the back of the radio, RadioMaster markets it as being a modding hole/being for adding a button or switch if you want. They even sell both momentary and 2 position buttons that are supposed to be a direct wire into the radio.
I bought the original version, hall sensor with touch screen a couple weeks ago. $199. I don't plan to change it at all. It works fine and I can spend money on other things like receivers or frames, FC, ESC, etc. I have the 4 in 1 so I can fly the D8 micros and just about everything else out there. I have the 900 ELRS module in it and that is all I fly on. Switched out all of my Crossfire to ELRS a few weeks ago because of price and availability. If I do anything to mine it will be to paint the case with Cerakote the next time I spray some guns. I did change it to EdgeTX.
I have the Radiomaster TX16S the first version with the hall gimbals I'm sticking with it I have no interest in upgrading it all especially since I had bad luck with gimbals going bad on me twice when I lost my spring tension thankfully it never happened while I was in the air my uncle had to mod the other hall gimbals now they're holding up fine 👍👍👍. Great job on the video Andy I'm still waiting for your smoke system😁😁😁😁
Great vid I chose the 4 in 1 so i can still use my spektrum recievers, and will be able to use other brand recievers, i brought the radiomaster tx16s mk11 so i can have all the extras that my lousy dx7s doesn't have, and il no longer be using spektrum
The antenna should be made removable, but require you to disassemble the shell to remove the default antenna. This would prevent noobs from damaging their radios. Just give the stock antenna a flange to prevent it from being pulled out of the shell
@@AndyRCchannel I've got a feeling deep in the cockles (maybe even the sub-cockles) that head-tracking will become a significant area of FPV that will develop as the technology improves. The T-16S MK2 's improved connectivity is the opportunity to "strike" just when the iron's hot 🔥 Your name was bought up on one of Joshua Bardwells streams in relation to head-tracking QED: my comment to you on your previous videos. This could well be the perfect opportunity to expand your public profile within the FPV community. Good luck Sir 👍
@@AndyRCchannel I'll take a look...The comment I left on your channel a few days back directly referred to it. The subject was brought up around someone's use of a movable camera POV based on an FPV cinelifter....Paul Nurkaler (forgive my Spelling NurkFPV🤦♂️) BEAR 🐻 with me Andy..let me find the video. Most of the important ref to you were made in the comment section where many people were interested and wanted to know about You after you were ID"d as someone particularly prevelant in the realms of head-tracking.🙂
Thanks for the video.. I woke up a little crazy this morning and bought the TX16s MKII Max with AG01 Gimbals.. expensive, but I am positive it won't disappoint when it arrives.
The non removable antenna is no big deal for anyone whos been messing with RC for any length of time, i swapped out mine for a SMA socket within days of getting my Tx16s Mk1
Got the red Max version of the original. Added a Bluetooth trainer module inside but otherwise stock. Nice radio, might be tempted to swap to the v4 gimbals if they are available in red.
u were lucky there as frsky has stopped selling the x lite preflashed firmware version of the bluetooth module. I was gonna do a video on it but no point if you cant buy it. the horus ones dont come with any firmware. the horus flashes the firmware to it when its installed into the horus. I did read that someone was working on a way of being able to flash the horus ones. Fingers crossed for radiomaster stepping up
Probably won't upgrade, but if I did I would probably buy the 4-in-1 version, even though all of my quads are ELRS. I already have an ELRS module, and I would rather have the ability to fly other stuff should I need to, plus, as you say, the power of the inbuilt one is limited. To add to your survey, of the 4 of us who fly together regularly, 2 of us have the TX16S. The other two are FrSky QX7
Think I'd have chosen the 4in1 module for these exact reasons too. Still rocking the V1 TX16S and trainerport wired quanum headtracker which has been totally solid for me and I can't fault it.. but might upgrade to the V2 for the bluetooth module... if it's any good... maybe.
The same thing happens to me when I try and plug my CRSF Module into my Taranis QX7S. The CRSF Module is just a tad bigger and has to be kinda forced in perfectly straight. I think it's a TBS issue considering all my other modules fit perfect with no issues. Thanks Andy 😊
this is true its a tbs issue but the crossfire module clips in much better on the first version compared to the second and you have to be mega careful. you can think its clipped in but its not. So just an advisory more than anything
@@AndyRCchannel Imo frsky changed size of module bay some time ago. I have turnigy 9xr and frsky djt module fits really nice, but when i use r9m i need to use some foam to keep module from movement. Imo problem seems to be caused by frsky changing dimensions of modules and module bay.
The non-removable antenna is because of laws preventing changing(raising) dbi. That's why tbs had to make a cover with screws over the sma for their module.
@@AndyRCchannel Guess it's not really enforced. But the well known names or bigger companies don't like to take that chance I think. But that's what Trappy said, about the law, I never looked into it.
@@AndyRCchannel I suspect they just don't care about it. Shipped directly from China. Same reason why you see any of them with a CE mark. Almost all of the modules are in fact illegal to use... (in Europe anyway) But so are VTX's set above 25mw. Chances of getting in trouble with it are also very low... who's going to uphold these laws regulations in in daily practice, right?
Unfortunately if Trappy said it was law, I'd want the link to the law... I get the impression at times there is more hot air than fact. I would not be surprised if this is true though, but is a more recent legal requirement. If it is, it would seem at odds with radiomaster still making transmitters with removable antenna (e.g. TX12) and that it is an upgrade option for the TX16S... although that probably falls a grey area then...
we have a radio that as a 4 in one bay with illegal protocols on it. Illegal power outputs from 2.4ghz elrs.. but the reason we have a non removable antenna is for legal reasons? Not from my knowledge
I own V1 and i love it! i know i will buy AG01 sooner then later! as I'm a noob in FPV i don't know nor will i feel any different if i change my radio the TX16s fits like a glove in my hands.
The JB version also has his voice pack installed, so each time you turn it on, you will learn something 😆 I'm still mainly using Spektrum and also using a FlySky Nirvana and a Jumper T-Lite, but I'm thinking of replacing the DX9 with a TX16 or the FrSky X20. With the Mark 2, I'm tending more to Radiomaster now.
Great review Andy, it certainly does look amazing but I will be sticking to my current Tx16S running CRSF. I feel like I’ve invested so much time from nearly bricking it (failed update), playing with the stick tension, researching lua scripts, updating to edge, setting custom sounds etc. I’m fully committed to it. Also I’m a cheapskate, I would rather buy a new quad. If I was coming in fresh into the hobby I would definitely get this.
I jumped on radiomaster t16s when they were 159 bucks probably a year and a half ago or more now. Amazing radio its crazy to see the others jumping on them now and they are 299 and 500bucks now lol
Great review... and I have to admit I was oblivious to the bluetooth/wireless module... so am now going to start pestering Ben "are we there yet!?" :😂 Just some additions/comments from watching the video... I think Lee (Painless360) has his heart set on orange/yellow trimmings ;) I would think the hole in the JR bay will go away, as it was added during the development cycle as the first iterations of the internal ELRS module had a USB port for hard-wired/recovery firmware update (now update-able through passthrough), and that was how you could access it without dismantling the transmitter. The hole in the back (opposite the new headphones jack) is for DIY... I don't fancy your chances of changing the battery through that (and wouldn't recommend it due to the high chance of shorting something out). Another plus is the trainer port is now standard TRS, rather than the longer-than-standard TRRS one that was used previously, so no more having to modify the socket, or source a different plug. I have both the V1 and V2 (pre-production). For my V1, I added the AG01s (and red CNC bits), and the V2 has it's v4 hall gimbals. I do prefer the AG01s due to the stick ends, lack of flex in the gimbal, and the extra mass seems to make centering more positive (less bounce). I'll probably get spares for the sliders and pots as the V2 ones are a real improvement. I can also see that difference in the faceplate... the top and bottom halves of the faceplate are the same now, rather than two different finishes.
I have a v1 TX16S and the eachine TX166S. I put AG01 Gimbals in the eachine and put the eachine's old gimbals into the v1 TX16S. The eachine gimbals are the v4 gimbals. I also have a Zorro. I don't see a compelling reason to get the TX16S v2. But I'm glad Radiomaster continues to make improvements.
Thanks for the indepth breakdown, exactly what I wanted to know if it's worth upgrading my TX16S Max Pyro Edition with CNC gimbals. I think I'm good with Max still for now unless some major firmware upgrades are released.
I pre-ordered the very first tx16s and i never could switch to it and sold it ... I just ordered the max carbon elrs with ago1 gimbals im gonna give it another try
I’ve got the original tx16s, well it was a bit later model but basically the same, love it but I wish it was smaller, which is why I have a Zorro with the 4 in one module on order. I still love my tx16s, but I find it a little awkward because of the size, but I won’t get rid of it because it is a great backup radio when I get my Zorro.
Hi I have version 2 with 4 in 1 module I have no plans to modify it with add-ons as it's a great system out of the box I'm running spectrum ar620 receivers as I was upgrading from a DX6I and don't want to replace my receivers I also like the fact radiomaster is working on and provided Forward programming with this version of Edge TX although at the moment it may have some limitations it's great to have that if I get an as3x receiver
I'm sticking to my pre-order first version running crsf I got it for 139$ on pre order, lol , FPV Dive Bombing here in California,,, when you coming to fly with me? I got Tacos!!
When you change modes, you may not need a ratchet on throttle, but you still need to take the back off to add friction to the throttle or it will be flopping about all over the place.
@@AndyRCchannel When I removed the self centering on the stick to use as throttle, there was zero friction and no ratchet so the stick would just flop about at the whim of gravity. When I took the back off the transmitter the friction band and the ratchet band were not in contact with the stick mechanism.
Very well explained video. Like it! Greets from Holland. Ps, What do you advice, for pure airplane flying? the 4 in 1. Or the lrs? greets en thanks for the information in the video. :)
Hy Andy I'm glad that I watch this video because I order that same radio . Also I have the original version and the jumper t 16.the one I order is the 4 in 1 because I have the crossfire module and ELRS thank u for the video.
Hi.. Million thanks for this video 😎👍🏾. Today ive just done two flights( a full equipment maiden actually- TX16S mk2 v4 Edgetx,R88 wired as sbus,Zohd Kopilot Lite ,Bixler3), but im get upset.. 1- rssi not good, during takeoff only get around 67db. While flying around 90ft tx16s says 'rssi low' @ 52db.. the furthest ive tried is around 120ft and tx16 says 'rssi critical' and at 39db..almost lost signal. Have tried both D8 and D16 protocol on the Frsky modulation.also same.R88 rx dual antenna angled at 90deg or 180deg also same, rssi not strong and not full up to 100%. 2- 1st flight done. Manual & Balance mode is fine,if switched to RTH mode the Bixler just circling above me at 50ft+-, it wont self land to runway(as i set during power up the plane on the middle of the field).. i did adjust the Rth/Rad Pot clockwise till it stop.as illustrated in zohd manual. 3- second flight. Tried change rf protocol to Frsky,D16 8Ch.and tried both style angled antenna( 90° & 180°), still didnt get full rssi to 100 during sit on runway.just got under 77db.. Managed to fly around 100ft radius only,during last landing ive stalled the bixler and it just dive stall from 20ft height..no way to survive it😅..loll Conclusion: what is not right about it? Did i missed setup something on Tx16s that i just bought new? Kopilot unit- RTH function didnt land the plane, is it just thats all? The day before, i did try out other setups: elrs mode. Jumper Aion mini tx module & Jumper Aion mini 2.4 Rx(pwm).. only ch a.e.t.r did work, but ch5 for use the flight mode is not work..anyway i did not have access to see the Aion mini Rx pwm signal graph,as my laptop is not compatible to download the Expresslrs Configurator(mine is Windows8, popup blocked says didnt have 64-bit to run it)🤦🏻♂️ Or should i try my other ORX receivers tats laying around? Got a Orx R610Lite v2, a Orx NanoRx ppm rx, a JR R721 and a R921 rx sets.. Btw/: i will be need to have at least 7or8 useable channels to run also an fpv pantilt 2servo gimbal. Will someone please help me out...?😭 Ill be really appreciate your help.
After watching this video it only upsets me to find out that I bought the very original first version used just this year and it's because lack of product knowledge and so many different versions out there unfortunately I won't be upgrading🎉
Great review! I have the Max edition w 4-1, for the same reasons you mentioned… ability to fly LOTS of other protocols and a 1W ELRS module as well as a 915 mhz module for my long range builds. BTW, Nice flight video… **how do you do the super clean hands and radio overlay?** very nice!
Just curious if the crowd at your club have started using the Zorro instead of the TX16s mkii? If not, why? Is it the 16's big screen? More switches? I only fly basic unmodded foamies, so is the Zorro 4in1 enough, or is the TX16s Mkii worth the extra money?
Great review. Any news about the bluetooth adapter what you have mentioned at 4.33. Have you got any information from Radiomaster as it will be released this year? I m currenly using the internal pin header connected an Arduino BLE on it for headtracking
Are you sure that a removed antenna destroy the rf? Because when you use the feature of to do range check it doesn't add much power so it is like having without the antenna. Correct me if wrong.
Have a TX16s new color edition but do not like it at all. Did several mods to try make it feel better (and replace cheaply made plastic parts that came broken from factory) however I still fly and love my trusty old Taranis X9D+. That X9D+2019 you held up looked mighty nice to me=-)
Hey Andy, Thanks for all of the great info - super helpful, as always. So have you heard anything lately about the wireless bluetooth module for head-tracking? I've still got an original Jumper T16 and was going to add the Frsky bluetooth module to it but am considering upgrading to the RadioMaster TX16S mk II instead and I'm wondering if I should wait for the new module to come out.
@@AndyRCchannel I wonder if the new board plug has the same connections that the SMD pads had in the previous version. If so, I guess you could potentially solder a wire harness on the PARA module and plug it in, instead of soldering it directly to the board. I've already bought the PARA module and want to buy the new TX16S but I wish I could figure out if the two are compatible. Can't find any info so far.
we have a radio that as a 4 in one module that has illegal protocols on it. Illegal power outputs.. but the reason we have a non removable antenna is for certification reasons?
@@AndyRCchannel I put Edge on my RM the other day. Very easy, just load up the SD card and flash it. Please do a video on Widget editing as the standard backgrounds are pretty hideous TBH....
@@EnglishTurbines i dont mind them but when you say backgrounds do you mean the images or the way the data is displayed? because the backgrounds are just image files you can make yourself.
@@AndyRCchannel Yes, I think I meant to say the themes are a bit hideous. This is the background the widgets are displayed over. Also, the colours seem a bit bland and less vibrant compared to how they were in OTX...? I think it would be of interest to many of us...🤔
@@EnglishTurbines I had to dial the brightness down to pretty much 0 so that the screen didnt blow out on the camera. they are more vibrant than the OTX ones i think but yeah. just a case of making your own image or sticking with opentx if you prefer as it supports both
That's a lot of exclamation marks mate. And you are almost right it's for modding wires according to ben but sure stick button there. I be careful though it sounds like your buttons are easily pressed bud
I still see no reason to upgrade from my Jumper T16 Pro with R9 module running ELRS, specially since i'm only like $200 in to the whole thing, mods and all.
Hi there, thank you for the great video! I just recently got this transmitter and while I do like it, I am having some issues possibly. I had just gotten a tbs crux3 toothpick and after getting everything setup to run 1mw for a range test, I did some test flights
The plastic behind the rear grips of the TX16S is humped out much more than on the Jumper. The new Radiomaster back is only about $10, maybe the whole back can be swapped?
Hey,thank you for the video, if i bought radiomaster mkii mode 2 can you change it to mode 1?? only because there discounted for the next 2 days where i live also can i get 4in 1 and put module happy elrs still?? cheers ..nice overlay at the end too btw!
@@AndyRCchannel haha your awesome thanx for the quick reply .. im off to buy it and a Happy Model ES24TX Pro 1000mW Micro Express LRS 2.4GHz ELRS TX Module cheers again much appreceated ox . God bless
Didn’t know I got the MK2 as well, till now😀 How is the feeling of your throttle stick? Mine feels very “unsmooth” compared to all my other Radios. it’s very unsatisfied..
7:45 this actually annoys me a lot! Have you found any solution to this? I wonder if would be possible to swap the jr module box that comes with the crossfire. Tested my ELRS Jr module and it drops in just fine
@@AndyRCchannel my idea is to get an empty Jr module box ( project box) and transfer all the internals from TBS Jr module. This is just an idea, but I don't see why it should not work. Its just 3 or 4 wire cable.
@@AndyRCchannel I imagine the Jr module box that came with The crossfire is Empty . Its just holding the TBS crossfire module which is held by double sided tape. As soon as I get the spare jr box I'm gonna try my idea.
I don't quite get why its been so popular. It is a great product for a great price but idk if its the marketing or something else. Any how, I hope to pick on up some day.
Quite simple really. Frsky locking out their system leaving a big gap in the market for an open source radio that can bind to anything. Jumper comes in with the tx16 where there's a disagreement internally. one person wanted functionality over quality (t18 with built in r9 but executed poorly. Gimbals literally fell out of my one) jumper continues with this ethos with the t pro not working with elrs devs and releasing a lemon. Radiomaster is born and went down the quality route as well as functionality.. working with devs and rewarding them. Massive success at the right price
@@AndyRCchannel thats neet I didn’t know the history of that. It’s also at a really affordable price! Cost the same as a dx6 and has 16 channels and ability to use any receiver. One more question, what is the advantage to using spectrum? I just can’t see it with the insane price of the transmitter? Iv got a dx6 but when it comes time to upgrade I just can’t see myself sticking with them. I do want to get in on the smart batteries which is awesome advancement in battery teck!
@@excellenceinanimation960 for fpv theres no advantage of using spektrum. It has Really poor range. Random failsafes and fly aways. The radios are mega expensive. The Los community is stuck in the past because it does the job. We call spektrum team fail safe in the fpv community. Rightly so as it personally cost me a fortune losing models to poor range. Can't believe people with ten and 20 grand jets and large models still use it
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I don't fpv, but I still have my original tx16s in gold, I love it and it brings back nostalgia for me, like the futaba gold radios. But it's so popular because you can't name any other brand that offers upgrades that you actually do yourself.. its like having a hotrod, you can upgrade it any way you want.
Have a original Radiomaster, upgraded it four months ago with gold cnc parts and new sticks, but after this review I'll be buying a Mark II next week lol. Great review Andy.
Love the overlay of you working the sticks during the flight, Andy!!!
Glad you like it!
Have the first silver TX16S MAX and love it. For me not enough difference to change to the Mark II though. Next purchase for it is the Five33 MCK thumbsticks, find the original a little bit to slippery sometimes. Still running OpenTX but is going to swap for EdgeTX soon. You can't go wrong with eather version of the radio I think. Great radio overall! Great informative review Andy!
Thanks Marcus
I purchased markII with the 4 in 1 version and a ELRS Happy Model module too I fly a lot of airplanes with Spektrum receivers. And I have two drones with ELRS receivers. I will not be upgrading the gimbals,too expensive.
Thanks for a thorough review Andy. Since it doesn't have both ELRS and the 4 in 1 internal, I think I'll stick with my original.
Wow Pal thanks so much you help me make the final decision on my next purchase of a controller!!! I'm a noob and started out with a Emax Tinyhwak freestyle 2 RTF kit. Didn't know there was so much to learn for this hobby thank God for TH-cam!!! I have already swapped out the box goggles for Fat Shark Attitude V6 goggles with Rapid Fire. Being a noob the 4 in 1 multi protocol is nice and module bay for future proof is also nice for later purchase of different drones!!!
Great review Andy! Just what I need. Very much looking forward to the Bluetooth wireless dongle for HT!
Fantastic review, Andy!!! 😃
After all the backlash of FrSky I'm happy that a brand like Radiomaster showed up in the market!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
the hole in the back of the radio on the bottom right side is for a aux button
Great review Andy, I always enjoy watching your videos. Just so you know, RadioMaster does sell a removable antenna mod under TX16S Accessories, so you could buy that when purchasing a new radio from them and add that mod as soon as you get it (I ordered one and am waiting for it to get here!)
Additionally, for the modules - I have the full Crossfire Tx too, and I’ve found that the best way to get it into the radio is to put the module in the bay, then press down on each side’s release tabs. That seems to get it in without too much trouble (at least for me) and it means I’m not pressing on the expensive module, but rather the cheap to replace JR bay adapter.
I got the MCK edition simply because I’m a sucker for that PVD (Plasma Vapor Deposition) look.
Finally, for the hole in the back of the radio, RadioMaster markets it as being a modding hole/being for adding a button or switch if you want. They even sell both momentary and 2 position buttons that are supposed to be a direct wire into the radio.
I bought the original version, hall sensor with touch screen a couple weeks ago. $199. I don't plan to change it at all. It works fine and I can spend money on other things like receivers or frames, FC, ESC, etc. I have the 4 in 1 so I can fly the D8 micros and just about everything else out there. I have the 900 ELRS module in it and that is all I fly on. Switched out all of my Crossfire to ELRS a few weeks ago because of price and availability. If I do anything to mine it will be to paint the case with Cerakote the next time I spray some guns. I did change it to EdgeTX.
I have the Radiomaster TX16S the first version with the hall gimbals I'm sticking with it I have no interest in upgrading it all especially since I had bad luck with gimbals going bad on me twice when I lost my spring tension thankfully it never happened while I was in the air my uncle had to mod the other hall gimbals now they're holding up fine 👍👍👍. Great job on the video Andy I'm still waiting for your smoke system😁😁😁😁
So am I :)
Great vid
I chose the 4 in 1 so i can still use my spektrum recievers, and will be able to use other brand recievers, i brought the radiomaster tx16s mk11 so i can have all the extras that my lousy dx7s doesn't have, and il no longer be using spektrum
The antenna should be made removable, but require you to disassemble the shell to remove the default antenna. This would prevent noobs from damaging their radios. Just give the stock antenna a flange to prevent it from being pulled out of the shell
Great video as usual Andy. Super Dooper 👌 An informative and comprehensively explanatory review of this beautiful radio. 😍
thanks that means a lot. its been a lot of work. Thanks for noticing :)
@@AndyRCchannel I've got a feeling deep in the cockles (maybe even the sub-cockles) that head-tracking will become a significant area of FPV that will develop as the technology improves. The T-16S MK2 's improved connectivity is the opportunity to "strike" just when the iron's hot 🔥 Your name was bought up on one of Joshua Bardwells streams in relation to head-tracking QED: my comment to you on your previous videos. This could well be the perfect opportunity to expand your public profile within the FPV community. Good luck Sir 👍
@@wearemany73 Oh really do you know what that video was? id love to see it. Thanks
@@AndyRCchannel I'll take a look...The comment I left on your channel a few days back directly referred to it. The subject was brought up around someone's use of a movable camera POV based on an FPV cinelifter....Paul Nurkaler (forgive my Spelling NurkFPV🤦♂️) BEAR 🐻 with me Andy..let me find the video. Most of the important ref to you were made in the comment section where many people were interested and wanted to know about You after you were ID"d as someone particularly prevelant in the realms of head-tracking.🙂
@@wearemany73 no worries. No rush.. Thanks for making me aware
Thanks for the video.. I woke up a little crazy this morning and bought the TX16s MKII Max with AG01 Gimbals.. expensive, but I am positive it won't disappoint when it arrives.
Andy your review is as good as any I have looked at. Please keep up the good work! 🇧🇲
thanks so much
Sticking with the original and my t-lite. Using the game pad style remote more and more recently.
14:47: cool greenscreen
The non removable antenna is no big deal for anyone whos been messing with RC for any length of time, i swapped out mine for a SMA socket within days of getting my Tx16s Mk1
Got the red Max version of the original. Added a Bluetooth trainer module inside but otherwise stock. Nice radio, might be tempted to swap to the v4 gimbals if they are available in red.
u were lucky there as frsky has stopped selling the x lite preflashed firmware version of the bluetooth module. I was gonna do a video on it but no point if you cant buy it. the horus ones dont come with any firmware. the horus flashes the firmware to it when its installed into the horus. I did read that someone was working on a way of being able to flash the horus ones. Fingers crossed for radiomaster stepping up
I've just moved over to the radiomaster TX16S mk ii 4in1 from the Taranis qx7 .. loving it
Probably won't upgrade, but if I did I would probably buy the 4-in-1 version, even though all of my quads are ELRS. I already have an ELRS module, and I would rather have the ability to fly other stuff should I need to, plus, as you say, the power of the inbuilt one is limited.
To add to your survey, of the 4 of us who fly together regularly, 2 of us have the TX16S. The other two are FrSky QX7
Wouldn't it make more sense then to buy the ELRS version and use an additional JP4-in-1 than the other way round?
4in1 because its handy to connect to anything. Get a full power external for your "main" protocol
Think I'd have chosen the 4in1 module for these exact reasons too.
Still rocking the V1 TX16S and trainerport wired quanum headtracker which has been totally solid for me and I can't fault it.. but might upgrade to the V2 for the bluetooth module... if it's any good... maybe.
The same thing happens to me when I try and plug my CRSF Module into my Taranis QX7S. The CRSF Module is just a tad bigger and has to be kinda forced in perfectly straight. I think it's a TBS issue considering all my other modules fit perfect with no issues. Thanks Andy 😊
this is true its a tbs issue but the crossfire module clips in much better on the first version compared to the second and you have to be mega careful. you can think its clipped in but its not. So just an advisory more than anything
@@AndyRCchannel Imo frsky changed size of module bay some time ago. I have turnigy 9xr and frsky djt module fits really nice, but when i use r9m i need to use some foam to keep module from movement. Imo problem seems to be caused by frsky changing dimensions of modules and module bay.
Just a heads up for those that have not seen it yet but HDZero is now using the onboard ELRS backpack to transmit head tracking positions!
The non-removable antenna is because of laws preventing changing(raising) dbi. That's why tbs had to make a cover with screws over the sma for their module.
@@AndyRCchannel Guess it's not really enforced. But the well known names or bigger companies don't like to take that chance I think. But that's what Trappy said, about the law, I never looked into it.
@@AndyRCchannel I suspect they just don't care about it. Shipped directly from China. Same reason why you see any of them with a CE mark. Almost all of the modules are in fact illegal to use... (in Europe anyway) But so are VTX's set above 25mw. Chances of getting in trouble with it are also very low... who's going to uphold these laws regulations in in daily practice, right?
By the way... Sticking with my carbon TX16 and AG01 gimbals... for now... ;-)
Unfortunately if Trappy said it was law, I'd want the link to the law... I get the impression at times there is more hot air than fact. I would not be surprised if this is true though, but is a more recent legal requirement. If it is, it would seem at odds with radiomaster still making transmitters with removable antenna (e.g. TX12) and that it is an upgrade option for the TX16S... although that probably falls a grey area then...
we have a radio that as a 4 in one bay with illegal protocols on it. Illegal power outputs from 2.4ghz elrs.. but the reason we have a non removable antenna is for legal reasons? Not from my knowledge
I own V1 and i love it! i know i will buy AG01 sooner then later! as I'm a noob in FPV i don't know nor will i feel any different if i change my radio the TX16s fits like a glove in my hands.
You are gonna love AG01 ... Its almost lige getting a new transmitter.
Well f**k now i need to by them!
Awesome review! Right to the point, very clear and understandable. Fun to watch. Love your channel. Cheers!
The JB version also has his voice pack installed, so each time you turn it on, you will learn something 😆
I'm still mainly using Spektrum and also using a FlySky Nirvana and a Jumper T-Lite, but I'm thinking of replacing the DX9 with a TX16 or the FrSky X20. With the Mark 2, I'm tending more to Radiomaster now.
Radiomaster is a good choice
it's awesome...great
and the way you review is very unique, thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge,
God bless you.
thanks i try to go as deep as I can.
@@AndyRCchannel this is a very helpful review for beginners like me. thank you andy best regard
It really is amazing what radiomaster is doing. All while FrSky seems to be pissing everyone off
Just started using this great tx, friend recommendation it and i have been learning the hows. Love being able to go internal or external.
Great review Andy, it certainly does look amazing but I will be sticking to my current Tx16S running CRSF. I feel like I’ve invested so much time from nearly bricking it (failed update), playing with the stick tension, researching lua scripts, updating to edge, setting custom sounds etc. I’m fully committed to it.
Also I’m a cheapskate, I would rather buy a new quad.
If I was coming in fresh into the hobby I would definitely get this.
I jumped on radiomaster t16s when they were 159 bucks probably a year and a half ago or more now. Amazing radio its crazy to see the others jumping on them now and they are 299 and 500bucks now lol
the trainer port actually works unlike the original
Great review... and I have to admit I was oblivious to the bluetooth/wireless module... so am now going to start pestering Ben "are we there yet!?" :😂
Just some additions/comments from watching the video... I think Lee (Painless360) has his heart set on orange/yellow trimmings ;) I would think the hole in the JR bay will go away, as it was added during the development cycle as the first iterations of the internal ELRS module had a USB port for hard-wired/recovery firmware update (now update-able through passthrough), and that was how you could access it without dismantling the transmitter. The hole in the back (opposite the new headphones jack) is for DIY... I don't fancy your chances of changing the battery through that (and wouldn't recommend it due to the high chance of shorting something out).
Another plus is the trainer port is now standard TRS, rather than the longer-than-standard TRRS one that was used previously, so no more having to modify the socket, or source a different plug.
I have both the V1 and V2 (pre-production). For my V1, I added the AG01s (and red CNC bits), and the V2 has it's v4 hall gimbals. I do prefer the AG01s due to the stick ends, lack of flex in the gimbal, and the extra mass seems to make centering more positive (less bounce). I'll probably get spares for the sliders and pots as the V2 ones are a real improvement. I can also see that difference in the faceplate... the top and bottom halves of the faceplate are the same now, rather than two different finishes.
please do we need that ASAP
Just got one! It’s been fun to learn.
Yes - upgrade all! And don’t forget to put you old TX 16 on ebay for 1€
I have a v1 TX16S and the eachine TX166S. I put AG01 Gimbals in the eachine and put the eachine's old gimbals into the v1 TX16S. The eachine gimbals are the v4 gimbals. I also have a Zorro. I don't see a compelling reason to get the TX16S v2. But I'm glad Radiomaster continues to make improvements.
Good job radiomaster!
Got the ELRS M2 Max to replace my Jumper T16. Going to use my external Jumper 4n1 module with it as well.
nice :)
where are you Andy? we have missed you...:)
Thanks for the indepth breakdown, exactly what I wanted to know if it's worth upgrading my TX16S Max Pyro Edition with CNC gimbals. I think I'm good with Max still for now unless some major firmware upgrades are released.
I pre-ordered the very first tx16s and i never could switch to it and sold it ... I just ordered the max carbon elrs with ago1 gimbals im gonna give it another try
I’ve got the original tx16s, well it was a bit later model but basically the same, love it but I wish it was smaller, which is why I have a Zorro with the 4 in one module on order. I still love my tx16s, but I find it a little awkward because of the size, but I won’t get rid of it because it is a great backup radio when I get my Zorro.
Transmitters have always been big boxes for me from flying in the early 90s so the tx16s is compact for me haha but I understand
@@AndyRCchannel , I used to have a hitec years ago, and even then I thought that they were a bit awkward lol.
Hi I have version 2 with 4 in 1 module I have no plans to modify it with add-ons as it's a great system out of the box I'm running spectrum ar620 receivers as I was upgrading from a DX6I and don't want to replace my receivers I also like the fact radiomaster is working on and provided Forward programming with this version of Edge TX although at the moment it may have some limitations it's great to have that if I get an as3x receiver
Thanks great review pal 😉
Great review AndyRc👍🙏👍🙏
Thanks 👍
I'm sticking to my pre-order first version running crsf I got it for 139$ on pre order, lol , FPV Dive Bombing here in California,,, when you coming to fly with me? I got Tacos!!
Andy:
Another great job. Very thorough & clear. Happy flying! - Jim
When you change modes, you may not need a ratchet on throttle, but you still need to take the back off to add friction to the throttle or it will be flopping about all over the place.
I had no problems adjusting the sticks to where I like them my without taking it apart for what It's Worth
@@AndyRCchannel When I removed the self centering on the stick to use as throttle, there was zero friction and no ratchet so the stick would just flop about at the whim of gravity. When I took the back off the transmitter the friction band and the ratchet band were not in contact with the stick mechanism.
Thanks and great video Andy. I must’ve missed it but what’s the secret?
I wish I waited just a bit back then, because I actually got the Radiomaster TX18 Pro. I am thinking of selling my T18 and going for the TX16s II...
Radiomaster TX18 Pro? Really? Isn't that a Jumper radio?
Very well explained video. Like it! Greets from Holland. Ps, What do you advice, for pure airplane flying? the 4 in 1. Or the lrs? greets en thanks for the information in the video. :)
Hy Andy I'm glad that I watch this video because I order that same radio . Also I have the original version and the jumper t 16.the one I order is the 4 in 1 because I have the crossfire module and ELRS thank u for the video.
Nice review Andy, better send that one back though the throttle is on the wrong side 🤣👍
haha. Might need to send my car back too ;)
@@AndyRCchannel I never thought of it like that 👍
Super rádio Andy 👌👍
Hi.. Million thanks for this video 😎👍🏾.
Today ive just done two flights( a full equipment maiden actually- TX16S mk2 v4 Edgetx,R88 wired as sbus,Zohd Kopilot Lite ,Bixler3), but im get upset..
1- rssi not good, during takeoff only get around 67db. While flying around 90ft tx16s says 'rssi low' @ 52db.. the furthest ive tried is around 120ft and tx16 says 'rssi critical' and at 39db..almost lost signal.
Have tried both D8 and D16 protocol on the Frsky modulation.also same.R88 rx dual antenna angled at 90deg or 180deg also same, rssi not strong and not full up to 100%.
2- 1st flight done. Manual & Balance mode is fine,if switched to RTH mode the Bixler just circling above me at 50ft+-, it wont self land to runway(as i set during power up the plane on the middle of the field).. i did adjust the Rth/Rad Pot clockwise till it stop.as illustrated in zohd manual.
3- second flight. Tried change rf protocol to Frsky,D16 8Ch.and tried both style angled antenna( 90° & 180°), still didnt get full rssi to 100 during sit on runway.just got under 77db..
Managed to fly around 100ft radius only,during last landing ive stalled the bixler and it just dive stall from 20ft height..no way to survive it😅..loll
Conclusion: what is not right about it? Did i missed setup something on Tx16s that i just bought new?
Kopilot unit- RTH function didnt land the plane, is it just thats all?
The day before, i did try out other setups: elrs mode. Jumper Aion mini tx module & Jumper Aion mini 2.4 Rx(pwm).. only ch a.e.t.r did work, but ch5 for use the flight mode is not work..anyway i did not have access to see the Aion mini Rx pwm signal graph,as my laptop is not compatible to download the Expresslrs Configurator(mine is Windows8, popup blocked says didnt have 64-bit to run it)🤦🏻♂️
Or should i try my other ORX receivers tats laying around? Got a Orx R610Lite v2, a Orx NanoRx ppm rx, a JR R721 and a R921 rx sets..
Btw/: i will be need to have at least 7or8 useable channels to run also an fpv pantilt 2servo gimbal.
Will someone please help me out...?😭
Ill be really appreciate your help.
After watching this video it only upsets me to find out that I bought the very original first version used just this year and it's because lack of product knowledge and so many different versions out there unfortunately I won't be upgrading🎉
Nice review andy thanks
The fixed antenna is mostly because of eu regulations for sending devices
Great review! I have the Max edition w 4-1, for the same reasons you mentioned… ability to fly LOTS of other protocols and a 1W ELRS module as well as a 915 mhz module for my long range builds.
BTW, Nice flight video… **how do you do the super clean hands and radio overlay?** very nice!
Same, grabbed the ranger and the 4 in 1
Thanks! So lots of useful info noone else tells)
ofcourse i upgrade. look at other prices of normal brands, theres good open source for transmitter, all perfect...till?
Verry verry good rewived Andy. And you talk so clearly so even i can understand what you Said. Im old man from Sweden hehe😻
Thanks so much
Im happy with my RM TX16S Mk1 so I will keep it.
Just curious if the crowd at your club have started using the Zorro instead of the TX16s mkii? If not, why? Is it the 16's big screen? More switches? I only fly basic unmodded foamies, so is the Zorro 4in1 enough, or is the TX16s Mkii worth the extra money?
How does the v4 gimbals compare to the mark I? Would you advise to go for the AG01 or are the plastic ones good enough in the mark II?
Is the 4 in 1 HF modul able to flash firmware in the Frsky receivers ? The Taranis transmitters has a slot to connect a 3 Pin cable.
Great review. Any news about the bluetooth adapter what you have mentioned at 4.33. Have you got any information from Radiomaster as it will be released this year? I m currenly using the internal pin header connected an Arduino BLE on it for headtracking
Are you sure that a removed antenna destroy the rf? Because when you use the feature of to do range check it doesn't add much power so it is like having without the antenna. Correct me if wrong.
Have a TX16s new color edition but do not like it at all. Did several mods to try make it feel better (and replace cheaply made plastic parts that came broken from factory) however I still fly and love my trusty old Taranis X9D+. That X9D+2019 you held up looked mighty nice to me=-)
I have the mark 2 with upgraded gimbals
Hey Andy, Thanks for all of the great info - super helpful, as always. So have you heard anything lately about the wireless bluetooth module for head-tracking? I've still got an original Jumper T16 and was going to add the Frsky bluetooth module to it but am considering upgrading to the RadioMaster TX16S mk II instead and I'm wondering if I should wait for the new module to come out.
Sadly I have not. I hope to make a vid on how to make the mk1 have the wireless module
@@AndyRCchannel I wonder if the new board plug has the same connections that the SMD pads had in the previous version. If so, I guess you could potentially solder a wire harness on the PARA module and plug it in, instead of soldering it directly to the board. I've already bought the PARA module and want to buy the new TX16S but I wish I could figure out if the two are compatible. Can't find any info so far.
First, I feel a lot of MOD videos coming.
for sure. where theres a hole theres a mod haha
I have the Max Carbon and I freaking love it. Not going to lie I ripped my hair out learning but it was so worth it. Bye bye spekjunk
I heard that certification require fixed antenna in many cases.
we have a radio that as a 4 in one module that has illegal protocols on it. Illegal power outputs.. but the reason we have a non removable antenna is for certification reasons?
@@AndyRCchannel I dont know, it's an hypothese, a practical reason could be to protect the module from burning if powered without antenna.
@@michelcote that's what I said in the video :-)
Great overview, I won't watch the others now....I wish Edge TX would improve the Widget backgrounds, or can we edit them in some way?..
Yeah you can edit them In loads of ways. Just not got my head around that part yet.
@@AndyRCchannel I put Edge on my RM the other day. Very easy, just load up the SD card and flash it.
Please do a video on Widget editing as the standard backgrounds are pretty hideous TBH....
@@EnglishTurbines i dont mind them but when you say backgrounds do you mean the images or the way the data is displayed? because the backgrounds are just image files you can make yourself.
@@AndyRCchannel Yes, I think I meant to say the themes are a bit hideous. This is the background the widgets are displayed over. Also, the colours seem a bit bland and less vibrant compared to how they were in OTX...? I think it would be of interest to many of us...🤔
@@EnglishTurbines I had to dial the brightness down to pretty much 0 so that the screen didnt blow out on the camera. they are more vibrant than the OTX ones i think but yeah. just a case of making your own image or sticking with opentx if you prefer as it supports both
It’s not a battery access!!!! It’s a button you can fit in there!
That's a lot of exclamation marks mate. And you are almost right it's for modding wires according to ben but sure stick button there. I be careful though it sounds like your buttons are easily pressed bud
I have the first addition , Tx16s not going to to change any thing.
Very nice radio's
I still see no reason to upgrade from my Jumper T16 Pro with R9 module running ELRS, specially since i'm only like $200 in to the whole thing, mods and all.
Hi there, thank you for the great video! I just recently got this transmitter and while I do like it, I am having some issues possibly. I had just gotten a tbs crux3 toothpick and after getting everything setup to run 1mw for a range test, I did some test flights
any news on the wireless headtracker?
Any word on the Bluetooth headtracker adapter?
What is the best receiver for Radiomaster TX16 ?
I've got the first version of the radio and hell no, I won't upgrade!!
How many models can you bind to these?
Great rundown! Do we know if the grips fit the Jumper T16 since the case is virtually identical
Good question I'll check and get back to you
@@AndyRCchannel thanks Andy!
The plastic behind the rear grips of the TX16S is humped out much more than on the Jumper. The new Radiomaster back is only about $10, maybe the whole back can be swapped?
@@ooOoo..... thanks for that! might be an option
Hi Andy, Yes bad antenna and not bluetouch module I don't buy it 😫
Do you use this radio with ELRS with planes too? This protocol does have the same speed than the 2.4ghz?
Not yet but I will be doing
Is there anyway to increase the volume on the Mk2 ? with a db meter - the needle did not move , flicking a switch got to 62db.
It ships with edge tx that has the wav files loudness reduced so the fix is to upload the opentx sounds
Hey,thank you for the video, if i bought radiomaster mkii mode 2 can you change it to mode 1?? only because there discounted for the next 2 days where i live also can i get 4in 1 and put module happy elrs still?? cheers ..nice overlay at the end too btw!
Yes you can
@@AndyRCchannel haha your awesome thanx for the quick reply .. im off to buy it and a Happy Model ES24TX Pro 1000mW Micro Express LRS 2.4GHz ELRS TX Module cheers again much appreceated ox . God bless
Didn’t know I got the MK2 as well, till now😀 How is the feeling of your throttle stick? Mine feels very “unsmooth” compared to all my other Radios. it’s very unsatisfied..
I find it mega smooth for me. maybe something is catching inside or you need to play with the tension?
Throttle ratchet perhaps? It has both smooth and ratchet options.
@@pfeerick ah yeah could be that
7:45 this actually annoys me a lot! Have you found any solution to this? I wonder if would be possible to swap the jr module box that comes with the crossfire.
Tested my ELRS Jr module and it drops in just fine
Just press it in really hard. Can't think of another way
@@AndyRCchannel yeah,well .. I'm thinking to change this Jr module box,because my Express LRS JR module fits in like a glove.
@@RS_ how would you change it? Not sure if the Mark 1 backplate fits but that's all I can think of?
@@AndyRCchannel my idea is to get an empty Jr module box ( project box) and transfer all the internals from TBS Jr module.
This is just an idea, but I don't see why it should not work. Its just 3 or 4 wire cable.
@@AndyRCchannel I imagine the Jr module box that came with The crossfire is Empty . Its just holding the TBS crossfire module which is held by double sided tape.
As soon as I get the spare jr box I'm gonna try my idea.
I don't quite get why its been so popular. It is a great product for a great price but idk if its the marketing or something else. Any how, I hope to pick on up some day.
Quite simple really. Frsky locking out their system leaving a big gap in the market for an open source radio that can bind to anything. Jumper comes in with the tx16 where there's a disagreement internally. one person wanted functionality over quality (t18 with built in r9 but executed poorly. Gimbals literally fell out of my one) jumper continues with this ethos with the t pro not working with elrs devs and releasing a lemon. Radiomaster is born and went down the quality route as well as functionality.. working with devs and rewarding them. Massive success at the right price
@@AndyRCchannel thats neet I didn’t know the history of that. It’s also at a really affordable price! Cost the same as a dx6 and has 16 channels and ability to use any receiver. One more question, what is the advantage to using spectrum? I just can’t see it with the insane price of the transmitter? Iv got a dx6 but when it comes time to upgrade I just can’t see myself sticking with them. I do want to get in on the smart batteries which is awesome advancement in battery teck!
@@excellenceinanimation960 for fpv theres no advantage of using spektrum. It has Really poor range. Random failsafes and fly aways. The radios are mega expensive. The Los community is stuck in the past because it does the job. We call spektrum team fail safe in the fpv community. Rightly so as it personally cost me a fortune losing models to poor range. Can't believe people with ten and 20 grand jets and large models still use it
@@AndyRCchannel didn't know that. I'm a bit surprised considering there price.
@@excellenceinanimation960 exactly why this radio is the best :)