Great review Stu! 100% agree on the arming switch. I like actual switches like the T20 uses over buttons, I find they are quicker to use, simply flick the switch so an option to swap these out would have been great. And the other point about the antenna I couldn't agree more. The fold down antenna design cant be beat and radiomaster need to get with the game and start using these. I have a radiomaster module with the stiff antenna type on my X9D and I really have to be careful not to break it when putting it in my bag and traveling not to mention it also takes up extra space. Its these two points alone that makes the Jumper T20 better than this radio and I'm happy I bought one for my partner and to use when going on holidays. Just wish I could get a pink housing for it, that colour scheme on yours does look sic!
I bought the Boxer a few months back to upgrade my fixed wing planes. I was able to get headtracking working using the SPI interface in the back of the radio (you need to open it up, it's label BLE) and an arduino Nano using the SBUS protocol. It's a great radio if you don't want to go all out with the tx16s.
Hey buddy I got the mob 8 kit you recommended. Would you happen to have any sim keys left? If nor its OK just figured I'd ask. Thanks for what you do. I love the pocket
@UAVfutures looks like someone tool those key codes which is a bummer. I was pumped. But regardless thank you for it anyways. That was super cool of you my friend. It's crazy I caught your reply within 20 min. Thanks again man for what you do Cheers
@@kurtzFPVWell because some of us who fly with the Boxer like to swap antennas for different applications. I usually use a loop style antenna for general purpose and then swap to a more directional antenna for longer range. I absolutely love the removable antenna just the same as on my goggles.
Hi Stew, I love my Boxer. Like Steve, I can't tell the difference between the gimbal, but I would change them when I break one. I just hope I can change the case. No Stew, Arm switch is on the left. LOL
Why not use a momentary switch as an arm switch? With little bit of programing and use a "sticky" option for logical switches should be done. But personally I will use that momentary button for for pre-arm or flip over after crash
Pre-Arm is the way. Arm with the SA switch. There is no problem with the switches on the boxer. I also would be pissed if they took away my removable antenna. I have a Pocket, too. It is fine for certain things but it will never take the place of my Boxer.
@@UAVfutures Yes, fully undstand. I only want to say that there is a option to make that happend. Or pick your soldering iron a swap the buttons around. ;-)
@@UAVfuturesI'm interested in becoming a lizard person. How should I set up my switches on a TX16s and/or Boxer? Do I need to physically swap inside the radio which switch is on the left and right?
Looks nice I still have my old FrSky running crossfire and a few with the old recivers. Though I just went to fly and nothing will arm, I would like this more if it had a JR module to replace all te recivers be too expensive.
Dear Radiomaster, if you watch this, please keep the Boxer exactly as it is. Many of us fly with it every day and absolutely love it. People who want folding antennas and different button and switch lay outs have many other options with those features. The Boxer has become the most popular radio for a good reason. Most of us love it the way it is!
I added an external battery bay that plus an external elrs and it’s clunky af. Thinking hard about modding it for 21700’s in the grips. It’s a dumb design but nice to use.
So yesterday I picked up my first radio master Tx got the Tx16s with the master fire module combo and it has the hall effect gimbals..idk if they all do or not. But got it second hand off of facebook marketplace for $100. I was pretty certain this was a good deal or should i have just gotten a boxer? Radio fully functions as far as im aware as well. Powered and went through all settings
@shaft3r1 I think the smaller ones are nice but personally I've always been one for the larger "techy" transmitters. I've always ran the spektrums and stuff for fix wings. I might try a smaller tx soon though
Didnt really see any in depth comparison, but from what Ive seen, cant see how RM will justify me getting this radio and not the Jumper T15 that costs less. Can someone shed a light on this?
Ahh, can't decide between this and the Jumper T15... I feel like Radiomaster has the best quality especially with the AGO1 gimbals, but the T15 does have that color screen so idk
Just starting out with FPV and i did order a normal Boxer so i can simtrain... its arriving today... and now they tell me i can get a Boxer with AG1 gimbals for 80€ more? :/ In germany with shipping Boxer = 160€, Crush = 240€
I'm gonna leave my frsky quads as they are. But I've been wanting to get into some new micros coming out and gonna need elrs radio. Think boxer is way I'm gonna go. Looks really good
@@UAVfuturesThey actually all look awesome! The one you had was growing on me the more I seen you guys using it. Overall getting into elrs and the size of the radio would help me so much. Qx7 have hard time pushing sticks all the way.
It's crazy to do this upgrade to your own radio. It is about the same price of buying a new radio. Honestly , makes me not wanna buy another product from them.
@UAVfutures Correct , but I bought the version without the gimbals. It's $130 to upgrade the gimbals. At that point, I might as well just buy a new radio and then have a spare.
Most of these radios are literally a qx7 ,no literally, check the oem details and the factory list and do a breakdown, these are all variants of that design.
Ive been wishing they'd do a zorro v2 with the pockets screen and dual 18650! Maybe with more powerful radio, but leave everything else alone!!! I hate those stupid touchy push buttons on the front... Switches are the only safe way to go!
Do you not check to make sure the antenna is screwed on before you start flying? Maybe it's just me, but I am almost OCD about checking and double checking SMA/RP-SMA connections.
@@William_NS I check constantly. It unscrews while i am flying. I will make it as tight as possible and after a while i start getting RSSI low and its loose.
@@christopherconkright1317 That is crazy! I've never had that happen. Although I don't usually use the stock Radiomaster antenna. I usually use a Niminmo (sp) Pearl loop for general purpose and a TrueRC Moxon for longer range applications.
Don't feel too bad, I bought the stock Boxer, $139 then added AGO1 gimbals, another $130 and then did the button and face plate upgrade. So I've got over $300 in my custom Boxer Max! Lol! I'm really not mad though, I absolutely love my Boxer!
@@William_NS I love it aswell, but it's still a little rough for me. I really liked those fancy gimbal, but their stand alone price is too much for me. I'm saving for hdzero and I want to get rid of my old eachine boy goggles as soon as possible. Btw 139 is a sweet deal, I payed 169€ I'm EU, but got the non EU version at least
The stock boxer antenna SUCKS! RM! Broke 2 of them but now I just go for the moxon antenna that has better range and won't spin as break like their T antenna. But I love my boxer but I do wish it had a big touch color screen but they might do that if enough people complain about the black and white screen. The crush of just a colored case to compete with jumpers without a color screen. RM PLEASE put the foldable antenna to the boxer and color screen then you can sell it for over $250. Radio Master come out with some clear color cases like clear pink and the other colors you offer then you'll get me buying more and CNC buttons to add to them.
C’mon man! I can’t follow the video as I’m trying to catch a good screenshot of your shirt so I can order one. Btw. if you’re not affiliating those already, I don’t know what to tell you.
Think I’d rather go for the jumper T15 instead bc of the foldable antenna, swapable shoulder switches and its about the same price, downside is jumper’s QC can be hit and miss. Happy with my T20 v2 though
Got myself a Jumper T20 recently and I couldn’t be more happy. The little screen needs getting used and it’s very helpful if you had something with big screen before using T20 (or use edgeTX companion)
They didn't listen to the community and add a folding antenna 🫤 weak sauce. I was sent the clear cased Boxer instead of the clear cased Pocket I ordered a while back. Didn't want to wait even longer to fly, so I kept it. I had been using the Zorro for well over a year, so the Boxer feels huge, awkward to hold and makes my hands ache a lot faster. Wish I would've sent it back and waited for the Pocket tbh.
@UAVfutures I don't fly all that far from myself, so I don't feel like I need 1w. Taking the antenna off to pack up just gets annoying. Most importantly the smaller form with slanted sides is so much more comfortable for an arthritic thumber lol
What Color would you get?
Green or grey I just wish it had a JR module.
Pink.
Ngl that pink one looks pretty slick. I think this is the radio im picking!
I'd go for the gray-looking ones
Yellow
i love that color coordination! don't think we didn't notice 😉
The Jumper T15 with the AGo1 Gimbals would be the winner.
Stew you are too nice! Spreading the love to your homies! The world needs more people like you ❤
Cheers brother. Did you see my DIYFPV project I have been working on for pilots?
@@UAVfutures Tell me about it!
.... and your shirt matches the colorway!! 😊
The radio looks really appealing. Happy to see more new videos!!!
thanks mate. its been almost 1 a day now lol
Great review Stu! 100% agree on the arming switch. I like actual switches like the T20 uses over buttons, I find they are quicker to use, simply flick the switch so an option to swap these out would have been great. And the other point about the antenna I couldn't agree more. The fold down antenna design cant be beat and radiomaster need to get with the game and start using these. I have a radiomaster module with the stiff antenna type on my X9D and I really have to be careful not to break it when putting it in my bag and traveling not to mention it also takes up extra space. Its these two points alone that makes the Jumper T20 better than this radio and I'm happy I bought one for my partner and to use when going on holidays. Just wish I could get a pink housing for it, that colour scheme on yours does look sic!
i know right. Plus if it is pink we wont loose it ... hopefully
Just buy the transparent T20 cover and paint it pink on the inside, works great!
Radiomaster needs to make a new model based on the TX16 with the screen on top of the radio. That will make the screen more usable
The radio master zorro is that😎
@@EMDRONESif you fly los it could be nice
like a big zorro?
@UAVfutures Like A FRSKY X18, X20. But a " Big Zorro" will be great too.
@gringo_fpv A color and big screen like the one on the X16s. For Fix wing, Heli, LOS in general, and FPV pilot that use flight control systems
I’m still flying a Taranis.. decided on the boxer when I upgrade.. but that “arm” switch was a no-go.. seen a mod to swap . Thinking hard about it
Same here, X9D still rocks but I invested in a Jumper T20 for traveling and it ticks all the boxes for me when size and durability matter more.
a qx7 or an x9d taranis?
X9d@@UAVfutures
@@UAVfutures x9D plus taranis.. it’s a great piece.. but it’s like having a microwave oven hanging from my neck compared to newer controllers
Stu, thanks for the great content! I believe you can order replacement switches and move your arm switch. I did that on my TX16S.
I bought the Boxer a few months back to upgrade my fixed wing planes. I was able to get headtracking working using the SPI interface in the back of the radio (you need to open it up, it's label BLE) and an arduino Nano using the SBUS protocol. It's a great radio if you don't want to go all out with the tx16s.
Hey buddy I got the mob 8 kit you recommended. Would you happen to have any sim keys left? If nor its OK just figured I'd ask. Thanks for what you do. I love the pocket
G79WH-7K2PW-HCEMX
C4GP5-8P7H2-57MV4
either of these should work
@UAVfutures looks like someone tool those key codes which is a bummer. I was pumped. But regardless thank you for it anyways. That was super cool of you my friend. It's crazy I caught your reply within 20 min. Thanks again man for what you do
Cheers
Great video. I did the 'Low Profile Antenna Mod' on my Boxer. Works great!
I don't understand why they dont ship them with the same folding antenna as the pocket.
@@kurtzFPVWell because some of us who fly with the Boxer like to swap antennas for different applications. I usually use a loop style antenna for general purpose and then swap to a more directional antenna for longer range. I absolutely love the removable antenna just the same as on my goggles.
@@William_NS this is a good point actually
I use the Jumper T20 with AG01 gimballs, best of both worlds. 👌🏻
Great I like the colours hope to get 1 happy flying👍
Which one?
Looks like a very nice pad, and the perfect spot for long range. Nice!
it might be time for a wing flight, what do you think?
Hi Stew, I love my Boxer. Like Steve, I can't tell the difference between the gimbal, but I would change them when I break one. I just hope I can change the case. No Stew, Arm switch is on the left. LOL
you mean on the "right?
Why not use a momentary switch as an arm switch? With little bit of programing and use a "sticky" option for logical switches should be done. But personally I will use that momentary button for for pre-arm or flip over after crash
i like the tactile feeling of "yep its pressed in and armed" if that makes sense?
Pre-Arm is the way. Arm with the SA switch. There is no problem with the switches on the boxer. I also would be pissed if they took away my removable antenna. I have a Pocket, too. It is fine for certain things but it will never take the place of my Boxer.
@@UAVfutures Yes, fully undstand. I only want to say that there is a option to make that happend. Or pick your soldering iron a swap the buttons around. ;-)
@@UAVfuturesI'm interested in becoming a lizard person. How should I set up my switches on a TX16s and/or Boxer? Do I need to physically swap inside the radio which switch is on the left and right?
you've been teasing this over your last few videos - saw it on the right hand side of the desk and in a blury thumbnail - in short yes please!!!!
Did you see it in the beginner 2024 kit? on the side of the desk shot?
@@UAVfutures yeah and I was thinking oooh that’s a pretty custom case 😂
Looks nice I still have my old FrSky running crossfire and a few with the old recivers. Though I just went to fly and nothing will arm, I would like this more if it had a JR module to replace all te recivers be too expensive.
it does have a module bay
Dear Radiomaster, if you watch this, please keep the Boxer exactly as it is. Many of us fly with it every day and absolutely love it. People who want folding antennas and different button and switch lay outs have many other options with those features. The Boxer has become the most popular radio for a good reason. Most of us love it the way it is!
Random question How would the Zorro compair to the pocket?
Zorro uses unpopular 18350 size cells. That means 1200mAh at best. In my Pocket I have Samsung 3500mAh cells that are quite cheap & plentiful.
Bigger gimbals, bigger screen, better trims, more sliders, more buttons, different switches, worse battery life.
I added an external battery bay that plus an external elrs and it’s clunky af. Thinking hard about modding it for 21700’s in the grips. It’s a dumb design but nice to use.
Got to hang a battery pack off the back of the Zorro
@@kmieciu4ever Yeah righto, but once you add a bigger battery pack under it would the range from it be as good as the boxer?
Theres also a 3d print that you can mod the boxer with the foldong antenna
yeah ., i just want it default
Theres a 3d print to get rid of momentary switch and it has a hole to replace the switch with a 2 or 3 way switch
i want it included
So yesterday I picked up my first radio master Tx got the Tx16s with the master fire module combo and it has the hall effect gimbals..idk if they all do or not. But got it second hand off of facebook marketplace for $100. I was pretty certain this was a good deal or should i have just gotten a boxer? Radio fully functions as far as im aware as well. Powered and went through all settings
For 100 bucks it was a steal. However I love my new pocket, I can just throw it the backpack etc
100 dollars is great. well done
@UAVfutures well thank you then I'm quite proud of the find.
@shaft3r1 I think the smaller ones are nice but personally I've always been one for the larger "techy" transmitters. I've always ran the spektrums and stuff for fix wings. I might try a smaller tx soon though
@@ZagFurn Me too, I was always using large TX. Now I think they are too clunky.
I have my arm in the same place and was hopeful they'd changed it... I guess I'll stick with my Tango 2 then!
god I love the tango 2. did you ever see the tango 1?
Didnt really see any in depth comparison, but from what Ive seen, cant see how RM will justify me getting this radio and not the Jumper T15 that costs less. Can someone shed a light on this?
Will they ever make a Boxer with color touchscreen. That would be super amazing.
when would you use this screen? in field time my goggles are down when im flying so I cant see anyt screen
You would probably be happy with a TX16s. It's a little taller to accommodate the color touch screen, but you get the added benefit of extra switches.
Ahh, can't decide between this and the Jumper T15... I feel like Radiomaster has the best quality especially with the AGO1 gimbals, but the T15 does have that color screen so idk
i wish i wouldve known this was coming out, i bought a regular boxer elrs like a week ago as my first remote
still a great radio
Just starting out with FPV and i did order a normal Boxer so i can simtrain... its arriving today...
and now they tell me i can get a Boxer with AG1 gimbals for 80€ more? :/
In germany with shipping Boxer = 160€, Crush = 240€
I'm gonna leave my frsky quads as they are. But I've been wanting to get into some new micros coming out and gonna need elrs radio. Think boxer is way I'm gonna go. Looks really good
Buy 4-in-1 module for your new elrs boxer and you are all setup ;)
what color would you choose?
@@UAVfuturesThey actually all look awesome! The one you had was growing on me the more I seen you guys using it. Overall getting into elrs and the size of the radio would help me so much. Qx7 have hard time pushing sticks all the way.
@@shaft3r1Really? That would be awesome if could use it with other quads! Yeah hopefully sometime I can move into one of these
What does the region mean?
Yuuup there's the thumbnail!
No idea why Radiomaster do not do it, but there is such a simple mod to actually get a Pocket antenna on a boxer!
Great radio 😎👊🏽
with nice looks too
If you like the Boxer, but hate the T antenna, try the Jumper T14. Seriously.
you will really like todays video.... t14 incoming.
@@UAVfutures I knew it was just a matter of time... 😁
Why does this drop 2 months after I got the stock boxer lol
thank you for your sacrifice
Stu, ya think I need glasses when I read that title as "How this NEW VALVE radio Crushed FPV"? In my defence it is 3am. ... or is that 2?
I had to double check... tripple check lol
Why would I buy this, over the Jumper T15 for cheaper, and get a full color touchscreen?
Get him a pink shell!
It's crazy to do this upgrade to your own radio. It is about the same price of buying a new radio. Honestly , makes me not wanna buy another product from them.
what do you mean? this is the whole radio for $189
@UAVfutures Correct , but I bought the version without the gimbals. It's $130 to upgrade the gimbals. At that point, I might as well just buy a new radio and then have a spare.
Pocket brought me back to the hobby.
its so good right?
I notice a lot references to Chinese stores. Are the sellers there selling legit items? Is there some trusted stores you recommend?
my link is straight from radiomaster itself
Most of these radios are literally a qx7 ,no literally, check the oem details and the factory list and do a breakdown, these are all variants of that design.
where would I find this info? got a link?
jumper t14?
? my review of one?
@@UAVfutures yep
Ive been wishing they'd do a zorro v2 with the pockets screen and dual 18650! Maybe with more powerful radio, but leave everything else alone!!! I hate those stupid touchy push buttons on the front... Switches are the only safe way to go!
you dont have to use the buttons though right
My boxer antenna unscrews itself constantly lost a drone due to it one time
Do you not check to make sure the antenna is screwed on before you start flying? Maybe it's just me, but I am almost OCD about checking and double checking SMA/RP-SMA connections.
@@William_NS I check constantly. It unscrews while i am flying. I will make it as tight as possible and after a while i start getting RSSI low and its loose.
@@christopherconkright1317 That is crazy! I've never had that happen. Although I don't usually use the stock Radiomaster antenna. I usually use a Niminmo (sp) Pearl loop for general purpose and a TrueRC Moxon for longer range applications.
@@William_NS I bought the 2.4 moxy have not tried it. I wrote to radiomaster waiting to hear back. I don't know what the Niminmo pearl loop is?
@@christopherconkright1317 it's just a loop antenna made by Niminmo (I think is how it's spelled). I know Pyrodrone sells them.
no way, how they put those gimbals in for that price?
I just bought a boxer 3 months ago :(
Don't feel too bad, I bought the stock Boxer, $139 then added AGO1 gimbals, another $130 and then did the button and face plate upgrade. So I've got over $300 in my custom Boxer Max! Lol! I'm really not mad though, I absolutely love my Boxer!
@@William_NS I love it aswell, but it's still a little rough for me. I really liked those fancy gimbal, but their stand alone price is too much for me. I'm saving for hdzero and I want to get rid of my old eachine boy goggles as soon as possible. Btw 139 is a sweet deal, I payed 169€ I'm EU, but got the non EU version at least
The stock boxer antenna SUCKS! RM! Broke 2 of them but now I just go for the moxon antenna that has better range and won't spin as break like their T antenna. But I love my boxer but I do wish it had a big touch color screen but they might do that if enough people complain about the black and white screen. The crush of just a colored case to compete with jumpers without a color screen. RM PLEASE put the foldable antenna to the boxer and color screen then you can sell it for over $250. Radio Master come out with some clear color cases like clear pink and the other colors you offer then you'll get me buying more and CNC buttons to add to them.
C’mon man! I can’t follow the video as I’m trying to catch a good screenshot of your shirt so I can order one. Btw. if you’re not affiliating those already, I don’t know what to tell you.
lol,the t shirts or big colored shirts
First like, view and comment
Yop
Its just a boxer in colors..with the pro gimbals
yep and $189
why not spend $20 more and get the TS16 MKII?
Think I’d rather go for the jumper T15 instead bc of the foldable antenna, swapable shoulder switches and its about the same price, downside is jumper’s QC can be hit and miss. Happy with my T20 v2 though
Don't mention Q.C.when RM produced the Zorro with Real Time Clock issues.
It's still 200 vs 250. I'll stick with the tx16s
If you use ELRS. Boxer go to 1W output the TX16s just go to 250w.
Got myself a Jumper T20 recently and I couldn’t be more happy. The little screen needs getting used and it’s very helpful if you had something with big screen before using T20 (or use edgeTX companion)
and i just buyed an normal RM boxer 4 weeks ago.. shit happens!!
still a great radio
is this walksnail footage and goggles?
it is
@@UAVfutures looks pretty good
Boring…. New colour, ag01s
So what 🤷🏼♂️
Nothing really new like a 4-1 Elrs hybrid or better screen
the price is pretty nice for someone who wants those gimbals etc
Why not a foldable Antenna? Who wants this thing sticking out?
my thoughts too
None would not buy that radio
They didn't listen to the community and add a folding antenna 🫤 weak sauce. I was sent the clear cased Boxer instead of the clear cased Pocket I ordered a while back. Didn't want to wait even longer to fly, so I kept it. I had been using the Zorro for well over a year, so the Boxer feels huge, awkward to hold and makes my hands ache a lot faster. Wish I would've sent it back and waited for the Pocket tbh.
you prefer the function of the cheaper pocket over a boxer?
@UAVfutures I don't fly all that far from myself, so I don't feel like I need 1w. Taking the antenna off to pack up just gets annoying. Most importantly the smaller form with slanted sides is so much more comfortable for an arthritic thumber lol