Didnt realize this until the 6th rewatch but when Magneto says "Please do not make me let you down" he was using a double entendre because he meant disappointing their expectations but also that he couldve killed them by letting drop back down to earth. Such good writing from a show long missed.
I think Magneto this episode might have been among the best Magneto has every been show in a TV/movie adaptation. His righteous anger really came through.
When i was a kid, i was an outcast and felt like an alien 👽 The Morlocks were my favorites because i could relate to their experiences so much. So cathartic to see Callisto and Leach 😫💞
I always love seeing your comics in the background for each occasion. This show was been awesome so far. The details have been spot on. Storm loses her powers then is startled by lightning. The council shakes due to the cold being up so high. It's touches like this that take a show to the next level.
Two things I loved about this episode... 1.). They continue to be dedicated restoring the damage FOX XMEN did to Storm's character. It was like they are saying, "Ok... THIS is Storm FOX XMEN!! Now that re introduced you to the Omega level mutant, let's get to showing you why she is one of the best characters in Marvel by taking you through one of her most epic character arcs. If you thought she was a badass goddess before......yoouu juuuust waaaiiiit!" 2.). The tongue in cheek joke of having Jean faint as soon as she is revealed. 😂😂😂😂. HILARIOUS. Only people that are true fans of the original will get that deep cut. Nathaniel Essex!! You're up!!!
I like that they are going through the Trial of Magneto arc. To me, it feels like a nice callback to the first season of the show as well; Beast spent most of the season in jail awaiting trial, deciding to argue his case in court. (in the end President Kelley just gave him a pardon)
I’ve been watching the reactions to these Xmen episodes. Man, the feels I get watching you get into the moment as I did. After a few rewatches, these episodes are heavier than I realized and connect to current events in this world. The Xmen have always had that connection to the human struggle.
I love these first two episodes it not only looks like the original series from the 90s it feels like it especially with Magneto's speech like you don't see many shows today that still talk about this stuff
GREAT reaction. I watch you 2 alot. Very smart. Glad to see another reactor know the book material and watched/knew the previous material. Especially the "Rogue was a bad guy before". Some seem to think the Magneto + Rogue is a new thing. Oohhhh no it isnt. 😅 Also, thanks for watching the Intro. I hope/think it's going to change each episode after they bring in a new Main charactet. Also hope Storm is going to Wakanda to get fixed. Heh. Just a wish of mine that likely wont happen. Lol
Ye but also the 90s series wasn't completely following the comics like dark phoenix saga ending and we can actually see assumed Madelyne actually using Jean's powers and prob for a long time too. My guess is since they don't wanna do the whole fantastic four finding jean deep in the ocean storyline I think they are just gonna cut it short and turn into this.
The only problem I have with the idea of Jean being the one at the door is the fact that Jean had to use the Cerebro. Maddy is a copy with no powers. So, unless Sinster replaced her at the hospital, which I doubt as she would have went home after birth. Or they totally rewrite the story and give Maddy powers. As far as Rogue; I know that didn't do this storyline yet, butI can't help think back to Magento and Rogue's time in the Savage Lands, where she fell in love with him. This of course leading to Age of Apocalypse where they were husband and wife.
Well sure they've changed a lot. Jean was "dead" in the comics and Maddie never thought she was Jean, and neither did Scott. In the comics, I guess Maddie having the same powers as Jean as well as looking like her would have been a bit too suspicious to ignore.
They are definitely taking liberties with the Madelyne Pryor storyline but honestly I think the changes are for the best. The original comic storyline didn’t paint anyone in a very flattering light, especially Cyclops. I do think for this condensed storyline, having Maddie believe she was Jean and be her exact copy will play out much better and much more tragically than the comic.
The second episode with magneto has made me appreciate his contrast to professor x now that im 28 now looking back on it they were both trying to help mutants. Just using a different message
We also don't know when Madelyne replaced Jean. It can be recent,right after dark phoenix saga or in between phoenix sagas. I think she was probably using that costume as Jean for a long time actually.
I’m actually starting to think that the real Jean Grey is first introduced into X-Men 97 when pregnant Jean (likely Madelyn Pryor) is using Cerebro to enter that guy’s mind. Pregnant Jean (Madelyn) suddenly gets startled-something about someone else being there, detecting an intruder that we are meant to think is Mastermold. But I think the intruder is the real Jean Grey who appears suddenly in her blue & orange X-Men uniform, not pregnant, and she’s floating around wondering whose mind she is in. Madelyn needs assistance from Cerebro to enter the guy’s mind but the real Jean Grey, an omega-level mutant, can access the man’s mind without the use of cerebro or any device. In the comic books, I remember that both Xavier and Jean could astral travel as part of their telepathic powers. So I think that’s the real Jean Grey showing up in that guy’s mind. And at the end of the episode 2, I think Jean has come to find the X-Men to alert them that she has seen a vision or mental blueprint in that bigoted guy’s mind of a mutant extinction at the hands of Mastermold.
A minor nitpick on my part. The Baby's name was Nathan Christoper Summers (named for Scott's dad the leader of the Starjammers) not Nathen Charles Summers.
I don't see the doctor's choice to not deliver a mutant baby as bigoted.. It's a legit concern for everyone in the hospital and themselves potentially, he was explaining it even and you dismissed the concern. They have to be concerned with everyone there, not just 1 patient. That's what makes the writing so good is because it's not just blind hatred, there is actual concern and consequences for both sides.
I was ready to disagree with you, but I read your comment thoroughly and at the end I can see you made a valid point. I would add this, though: one could argue there is bigotry in a hospital or its staff refusing to serve a mutant member of their community without making sufficient effort to incorporate evidence -based safety protocols into their clinical practices, so that their hospital can serve ALL patients whether they be human or mutant. When I first watched this episode and saw that scene in the hospital where Jean us refused prenatal care in a critical time of need, it immediately brought to mind the 1940s and racially segregated hospitals in the U.S. If I recall correctly, Jazz(Blues?) singer Billie Holiday was in a bad car crash, and she died from bleeding out as she was being driven to a hospital that treated ‘negroes’ at the time because the nearby Hospital refused to treat Black people, even though she was in critical condition and hemorrhaging blood. So for me, I felt like the main purpose of this scene was written into this episode more to add to the sense of marginalization, exclusion, and (sometimes willfull) ignorance that mutants experience in the X-men universe, often to their great detriment. The concern about delivering a mutant baby as a medical concern could also come across a bit like the prejudice against gay men in the 1980s at the height of the HIV epidemic where people did not want to come into proximity to a gay man for fear of possible exposure, even after the science came out and showed that the virus could only be spread through the direct exchanging of fluids. Thus these men were denied critical services, denied job opportunities and more. Again, I can see your point, but in a shared society - in a compassionate society - we would hope that our social institutions would do what they could to the extent possible to figure what needs to be done to be able to serve everyone in society, and not just the majority or privileged minority. And that’s what I love about the X-Men. It allows us to understand and contemplate various human experiences, and develop a sense of empathy in the real world. And it generates some really interesting Discussions and commentary 🙂
Finally, disney understands what woke is again. Instead of the fake woke they've been since captain marvel. Love that they understand what it means to be inclusive again.
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Magneto and Storm voice actors need an Oscar omg their words were so powerful and moving.
Agreed! 🙏🏽💪
I still can't believe that's Matthew Waterson (Doomguy) voicing Magneto.
I truly believe the x-men are about to become the new Avenger's of marvel in popularity. Taking its throne back
Didnt realize this until the 6th rewatch but when Magneto says "Please do not make me let you down" he was using a double entendre because he meant disappointing their expectations but also that he couldve killed them by letting drop back down to earth. Such good writing from a show long missed.
I took rewatching it 6 times... 😅
@@chadthaw6241 Confirmed
I realized that the first time
@@JH-mo7xm You, sir, are a genius.
@@VAOdin thank you sir. I appreciate it.
Magneto's speeches were GOLD!!!!
As a young boy in the 90s growing up in rural South Texas, the "X-Men" comics and cartoon series taught me a lot about tolerance and equality.
I think Magneto this episode might have been among the best Magneto has every been show in a TV/movie adaptation. His righteous anger really came through.
When i was a kid, i was an outcast and felt like an alien 👽 The Morlocks were my favorites because i could relate to their experiences so much. So cathartic to see Callisto and Leach 😫💞
I loved them to just a bunch of outcasts that look out for each other, glad they got saved by magneto they deserve the W
I know a true fan when they recognize the Executioner.
Some one give these writers a raise, like jeez. Also shout out to the INCREDIBLE cast for their VO work.
In the comics Madelyn Pryor is Nathan Summers/Cable's mom therefore the one on the door has to be the real Jean Grey.
I always love seeing your comics in the background for each occasion. This show was been awesome so far. The details have been spot on. Storm loses her powers then is startled by lightning. The council shakes due to the cold being up so high. It's touches like this that take a show to the next level.
Two things I loved about this episode... 1.). They continue to be dedicated restoring the damage FOX XMEN did to Storm's character. It was like they are saying, "Ok... THIS is Storm FOX XMEN!! Now that re introduced you to the Omega level mutant, let's get to showing you why she is one of the best characters in Marvel by taking you through one of her most epic character arcs. If you thought she was a badass goddess before......yoouu juuuust waaaiiiit!"
2.). The tongue in cheek joke of having Jean faint as soon as she is revealed. 😂😂😂😂. HILARIOUS. Only people that are true fans of the original will get that deep cut. Nathaniel Essex!! You're up!!!
What "damage"?
I like that they are going through the Trial of Magneto arc. To me, it feels like a nice callback to the first season of the show as well; Beast spent most of the season in jail awaiting trial, deciding to argue his case in court. (in the end President Kelley just gave him a pardon)
17:36 It emphizes Magneto's point that the xmen needed to fight just for Nathan to be born into the world.
(11:05) "Stop the count!" They're storming the capital!😆
I love the new Look from Magneto!!
My gay coworkers are already calling him Dadneto. I can't with them lol
Ja, the real Jean is the one who passed out. 😅
All jokes aside you might be right. Nathan was Jeans clone Madelyn's kid.
Fake jeans is goblins queen
I’ve been watching the reactions to these Xmen episodes. Man, the feels I get watching you get into the moment as I did. After a few rewatches, these episodes are heavier than I realized and connect to current events in this world. The Xmen have always had that connection to the human struggle.
Really enjoying the portrayal of Val Cooper
I want to hear a discussion between Magneto and Vision.
I want to hear a discussion between Magneto and Castlevania Dracula
Both would be interesting encounters
nice hearing feedback from someone so well-versed in the comics. i've always loved the x-men but i don't have that knowledge.
I love these first two episodes it not only looks like the original series from the 90s it feels like it especially with Magneto's speech like you don't see many shows today that still talk about this stuff
I choked when you saw the infamous green dress 😂
Not so much that Rogue was part of The Brotherhood but moreso that she and Magneto were intimately involved for a time before she met Gambit.
Is Magneto the greatest comic book villain ever? I think he just may be
This show is amazing
GREAT reaction. I watch you 2 alot. Very smart.
Glad to see another reactor know the book material and watched/knew the previous material. Especially the "Rogue was a bad guy before". Some seem to think the Magneto + Rogue is a new thing. Oohhhh no it isnt. 😅
Also, thanks for watching the Intro. I hope/think it's going to change each episode after they bring in a new Main charactet.
Also hope Storm is going to Wakanda to get fixed. Heh. Just a wish of mine that likely wont happen. Lol
I knew that was Madelyn Pryor. She gave birth to Cable. Jean Grey had a daughter called Rachel.
From an alternate future, but yes.
Ye but also the 90s series wasn't completely following the comics like dark phoenix saga ending and we can actually see assumed Madelyne actually using Jean's powers and prob for a long time too. My guess is since they don't wanna do the whole fantastic four finding jean deep in the ocean storyline I think they are just gonna cut it short and turn into this.
You guys are so correct in the feelings that the X-men feel for each other! Great insights! 🤩👍
Love your reactions🔥🙌🏽
another great reaction and chat about the episode, thank you :)
Yes both episodes were awesome
Great show and reaction
Is it weird that I kind of missed those cliffhangers at the end?😅😅😅
Jean and her best pal, Mr faint😅
The only problem I have with the idea of Jean being the one at the door is the fact that Jean had to use the Cerebro. Maddy is a copy with no powers. So, unless Sinster replaced her at the hospital, which I doubt as she would have went home after birth. Or they totally rewrite the story and give Maddy powers.
As far as Rogue; I know that didn't do this storyline yet, butI can't help think back to Magento and Rogue's time in the Savage Lands, where she fell in love with him. This of course leading to Age of Apocalypse where they were husband and wife.
Well sure they've changed a lot. Jean was "dead" in the comics and Maddie never thought she was Jean, and neither did Scott. In the comics, I guess Maddie having the same powers as Jean as well as looking like her would have been a bit too suspicious to ignore.
They are definitely taking liberties with the Madelyne Pryor storyline but honestly I think the changes are for the best. The original comic storyline didn’t paint anyone in a very flattering light, especially Cyclops. I do think for this condensed storyline, having Maddie believe she was Jean and be her exact copy will play out much better and much more tragically than the comic.
Sir, I love your shirt ❤
my random question is, how did jean not have a doctor she was seeing for checkups / who was going to deliver her baby? lol
The second episode with magneto has made me appreciate his contrast to professor x now that im 28 now looking back on it they were both trying to help mutants. Just using a different message
As many speculated/implied over the years.........Malcolm and Martin.
19:25 i think the emotion is FEAR because she isn't one with the elements
It absolutely is fear, that's her first time experiencing lightning without knowing it was coming, she's never been taken off guard by it before.
Interesting.. When "Jean" is using the cerebro, she went through a series of visions where she is in costume. Was that just for misdirection?
Madelyne has Jean memories. That one might believe she is actually Jean Grey
We also don't know when Madelyne replaced Jean. It can be recent,right after dark phoenix saga or in between phoenix sagas. I think she was probably using that costume as Jean for a long time actually.
I’m actually starting to think that the real Jean Grey is first introduced into X-Men 97 when pregnant Jean (likely Madelyn Pryor) is using Cerebro to enter that guy’s mind. Pregnant Jean (Madelyn) suddenly gets startled-something about someone else being there, detecting an intruder that we are meant to think is Mastermold. But I think the intruder is the real Jean Grey who appears suddenly in her blue & orange X-Men uniform, not pregnant, and she’s floating around wondering whose mind she is in.
Madelyn needs assistance from Cerebro to enter the guy’s mind but the real Jean Grey, an omega-level mutant, can access the man’s mind without the use of cerebro or any device.
In the comic books, I remember that both Xavier and Jean could astral travel as part of their telepathic powers. So I think that’s the real Jean Grey showing up in that guy’s mind. And at the end of the episode 2, I think Jean has come to find the X-Men to alert them that she has seen a vision or mental blueprint in that bigoted guy’s mind of a mutant extinction at the hands of Mastermold.
is that magneto or granny goodness?😂
I laughed out loud at Julia's comment about Magneto kicking Scott in the head
guy reminds me of henry cavil
As someone who hasn’t seen the original series, I’d love if you guys would react to the first 5 seasons and share your knowledge.
Or you could just watch it yourself.
A minor nitpick on my part. The Baby's name was Nathan Christoper Summers (named for Scott's dad the leader of the Starjammers) not Nathen Charles Summers.
I want the "real Jean" to be the lost Mary Jane.
😂 Dead ☠️
This is why we also need a continuation of the 90s Spider Man series.
Wo wow woooooowwwww
Didn't she die at the end?
@@fernandosepulveda7297 no. She went into the multiverse or something.
Have you seen the new trailer for bad boys ride or die yet
Yasssss
I don't see the doctor's choice to not deliver a mutant baby as bigoted.. It's a legit concern for everyone in the hospital and themselves potentially, he was explaining it even and you dismissed the concern. They have to be concerned with everyone there, not just 1 patient. That's what makes the writing so good is because it's not just blind hatred, there is actual concern and consequences for both sides.
I was ready to disagree with you, but I read your comment thoroughly and at the end I can see you made a valid point.
I would add this, though: one could argue there is bigotry in a hospital or its staff refusing to serve a mutant member of their community without making sufficient effort to incorporate evidence -based safety protocols into their clinical practices, so that their hospital can serve ALL patients whether they be human or mutant.
When I first watched this episode and saw that scene in the hospital where Jean us refused prenatal care in a critical time of need, it immediately brought to mind the 1940s and racially segregated hospitals in the U.S. If I recall correctly, Jazz(Blues?) singer Billie Holiday was in a bad car crash, and she died from bleeding out as she was being driven to a hospital that treated ‘negroes’ at the time because the nearby Hospital refused to treat Black people, even though she was in critical condition and hemorrhaging blood. So for me, I felt like the main purpose of this scene was written into this episode more to add to the sense of marginalization, exclusion, and (sometimes willfull) ignorance that mutants experience in the X-men universe, often to their great detriment.
The concern about delivering a mutant baby as a medical concern could also come across a bit like the prejudice against gay men in the 1980s at the height of the HIV epidemic where people did not want to come into proximity to a gay man for fear of possible exposure, even after the science came out and showed that the virus could only be spread through the direct exchanging of fluids. Thus these men were denied critical services, denied job opportunities and more.
Again, I can see your point, but in a shared society - in a compassionate society - we would hope that our social institutions would do what they could to the extent possible to figure what needs to be done to be able to serve everyone in society, and not just the majority or privileged minority.
And that’s what I love about the X-Men. It allows us to understand and contemplate various human experiences, and develop a sense of empathy in the real world. And it generates some really interesting Discussions and commentary 🙂
How is cable white but he’s black doesn’t make sense lol
Bishop is black, Cable is white, you seem to have conflated the two.
@@ripleyjlawman.3162I see I was confused cuz I thought bishop and cable was one and the same I guess I never pay attention lol my bad
Finally, disney understands what woke is again. Instead of the fake woke they've been since captain marvel. Love that they understand what it means to be inclusive again.
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