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3,300+HP SMX with the NEW ProCharger F4X-140 Engine Dyno!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ต.ค. 2021
- This is another nice SMX engine that we just finished up for Tony Braglio. We are using the new F4X-140 ProCharger and putting down over 3,300HP on Methanol at just under 50 pounds of boost.
Quality! In 1956 when I was running around in 'hot rods,' we never imagined in our wildest dreams that such an engine would ever exist.
Long live fossil fuels
@@nathanthomas8184 sure we have enough here..... good one fanboy
@@nathanthomas8184 You don't have to run on fossil fuels... This doesn't.
@@nathanthomas8184 Yes because lithium batteries are killing us!
@@mewrongway the combustion of hydrocarbons results in co2 and water... pretty sure thats as "green" as they come, but what do I know?
As a longtime fan of Cleetus, I can only thank him for coming across you! I subbed immediately when I saw your work.
I think we all did
I’ve heard of SM In passing I’m sure .. name sounded familiar.. besides proline .. I didn’t know any high end motor builders .. and TBH why would I .. I can’t afford a $100k motor for a nonexistent promod
But I really love watching this dudes vids
As much or more than good ole cleeter
Steve has a good channel going .. def very charismatic and does a great job breaking down what he’s doing and why
Did u see the one with his Boost Master wagon running mid 6s .. 212 mph
He was showing us his tune up and data logs etc
Really cool
@@geraldgoodiii6993I didn't see that one, but that Devel 16 is dope.
Yep, same
You could hear the dyno holding it back then the Pro Charger kicks in and WOW that's nuts lol
We used to attach the blower to the engine, now Steve attaches the engine to the blower.
I totally understand it's a direct drive but it looks rediculous. I like the roots blowers those ones make the engine look taller instead of longer
@@jackdaniels2657 Over the years, I always ran nitrous because i hated that big block hanging out the hood. The gear drive setup is where it's at. You can see the flashlight or tree way better, no ridiculous mountain hanging out the hood, and yet it makes the power.
@@jasonstormoen yeah bit bottles are for babies and u gotta keep feeding the baby unlike that big monster sticking out the hood. If u dont like up front why not mount it behind u like in tge bed of a truck
@jackdaniels2657 😆 🤣 I like the gear drive and the sound of it, and I like where it mounts. And, this isn't a turbo so, you can't mount it in the bed of a truck, trunk, or wherever. A blower needs the crank snout for it to work, and the crank snout is in the front.
@@jasonstormoen but if put the engine in the read pf the car it will work ive seen engines in the bed of trucks rear wheel drive. Turbos are too much maintenance and i cant stand turbos spool ovee a belt driven blower
Steve, you make some you do some fantastic engine work.
I'm impressed that idle seems to be smooth,
Cleetus this is what you need for the Blazer 😂
Hell yeah brother!
they'd still throw nitrous on it :P
He needs one for all of his cars. Lol
And with enough tire, it's doing a back flip the second it takes the hit. That Blazer would definitely need a wheelie bar if this engine or any engine making 1500+ hp.
too bad it is not the engine cleetus is waiting for for the El Camino
Wow that blower unit on the front of that engine is almost the length of the block.
260👍's up Steve Morris thank you for sharing another great video on an awesome innovative product and the abilities and outstanding service to make the world go around faster
Geez I don't know if you can call that engine outlaw but I'm a 60s kid I'm 55 going on 56 I've seen some wild HP builds & been behind them to where my own father was scared to even ride with me after my oldest brother had rapped his roadrunner around a telephone pole. thank God he lived threw the crash. My father & family guys along with junkyard owner friends was building racing cars from round track to drag strips those were good old hot rod days sure miss them days myself especially my father & uncle's along with friends I lost my oldest brother in 2019 he was in his early 60s due to heath but anyways seeing engine builds just brings back good memories thank you for the video of a sweet looking engine that I'd like to drop in my ole 04 single cab silverado. 😁 hope it makes your engineering a success Steve keep up the great and powerful HP mindset 👍
That might fit in a mid 70s Monte Carlo, i think the radiator is almost far enough out front 😂
I could see it in a 72 lmao
It will fit in anything. Will twist anything, if not race prepped.
@@denialphasebitcoin5639 Not for a street application no it won't.
This would make a dodge viper engine bay seem small 😂😂
Dang!!! What a beast!! Some day maybe i will have 1 of your pieces in my car!!!
Awesome work as usual!
I found your engine channel prior to Cleetus but you guys produce an amazing engine; not a motor! Cleetus has made some incredible drag race improvements with your engine platform!
It's amazing to watch both your channels as they improve.
its a piece of art love it
Wonder if I can fit one of these in my little mazdaspeed
Lol. I love the versatility of qlot of your motors. Like you said you can road trip these motors which is awesome
When the dino put the load on that motor snap your fingers and we’re at 8800 RPM damn impressive
Wish you would build me a mod motor for my Gen2 lightning 🙌
Great stuff Steve. Well done sir
Richard Holdener did some bolt-ons, cams, twin turbos and support equipment to the 5.4 DOHC out of the Navigator and got 1,000hp. They are damn good engines in my eyes.
Steve does some beautiful work !,
FYI - If you are worried about the last rpm reading on the dyno graph, it is likely a software issue on the dyno, specifically the graphing program. If it is what I think it is, they are doing a digital sampling of the HP between two RPM values (like for example between 2550 rpm and 2600, the sampling rate being between 50 rpm). They use that to build a rectangular bar with the HP being the top, and this is in a series of rectangular bars to build a graph (digital sampling). The graph line is then "best fit" to the tops of the digital sampling rectangles. The problem happens when you don't have a last value of RPM to compare to the previous rpm - so the last rpm values are dumped from the graph. This is most likely the reason your highest rpm value doesn't show on the graph - you still have all the data from the run including the top HP, it's just that the graphing program wasn't up to the job.
incredible motor steve
Great build
nice piece ! good power, thank you.
"good power"??!! WTF? Is Mt Everest just a hill?
@@paulcopeland9035 Ok , sorry about that , Awesome power and very , very impressive !
@@paulcopeland9035 hahahaha that comment had me cracking up
I have seen alot of Prochargers touch down. They need to get that figured out
Nice! That's a beast!!
never get tired of dyno time
Steve.Smx are made for endurance drive on pump gas which is insane with all that horsepower that's what it's all about drive 20 or 2000 miles and race it runs six seconds or faster drag.and drive is insanely cool never thought it would happen. STEVE SMX ROCK'S. GOD SPEED LOVE IT
Just a calm 6+ hp per cube... Awesome build... How things have changed over the years...
Remember when the target number for effeciancy was: 1 Horsepower for each Cubic Inch displacement? That was like Wow! Now...!
@@timothyvaher2421 Yes, I do remember those days (showing our age, lol) I made it to 2hp per ci before getting out of bracket racing years ago, wasn't easy, or cheap to get there.... Boost brings it to an entirely different level. 6, 7, 8 times per cube was a pipe dream years ago, outside of top fuel. Now, a common reality.
@@timothyvaher2421 it really wasn’t that long ago considering engines have been around for about 130 years and racing has been around for 129 1/2 years😳. 1.5 Na is still impressive, 2.5 with power adder is good for a streetable motor, 6 for a streetable motor is insane. 2000 ft lb at 8000 rpm is a pretty typical deal🤔 really?
@@mikelliteras397 2+hp per inch NA doesn't seem all that impressive when nascar is getting that with a two barrel and serious restrictions on valve sizes.
@@mikelliteras397 the first race happened when the second car was built
That pin on the charge pipe looks like its ready to just be sucked into the procharger haha
that thing sounds glorious
Hmm, I thought everyone hated Procharger. I was looking into them back when I was in highschool and they seemed like a good way to go. The only thing that was stopping me was that I was in highschool so naturally I was broke.
Nice bit of kit, that.
Great content thanks for sharing
So Frigin Awesome!! I hope Cleetus & Crew realizes how much of a privilege it is to work with you one on one basis! I mean... to say you had Steve Morris come to you shop, Help you with your build and tune your setup is something you would tell your grandchildren about!! #BuiltByBo
I’m sure that service can be provided to anyone willing to pay for it. By working with Cleetus he’s generated a ton more interest for himself and his product. This is straight business, no need for praises or stories to your grandchildren, have some dignity.
@@Nick210 I was soley referring to the "Cool Factor, It was nothing negative. Business or not, its still Cool! 👍
I just bought a diesel motor to put in my f100 I am pretty excited about.
It's rated at 105hp 300tq.
I'll just go walk into oncoming traffic now after watching this.
Always awesome!
Is this the most power you have seen with a centrifugal supercharger in your years doing this?
This, in a clapped out two door 78 Impala would be a great daily.
Steve your my hero lots of respect from canada peace brother
Steve can you do a video from first putting engine on dyno after build to after tuning? I want to see how much you make and get after original flat numbers.
Ol cleet needs this for the blazer
Does your performance Trends control the water brake?
That’s not a supercharger, it’s a jet turbine😳. Keep the pets away from it or they’ll get sucked in. The numbers these days are just insane. Glad there’s a guy like Steve explaining these things with so much details without being afraid of letting too many secrets out.
Why does that starter motor sound so awesome and turned it over so fast?
I need this for my Honda
exactly what am I looking at and how could I fit it into my prius?
Cleetus needs one of these for his white Holden ute
That ring bouncing above the charger makes me nervous lol
How many inches does the procharger protrude out from the balancer? It seems these procharger will only fit on chassis cars with stretched front ends.
Good lord that must beat the snot out of that dyno.
Would love to have this! Do they make a front procharger drive that you can still run a water pump for street driving?
remote mount
This setup is running on a remote pump! To be honest with the Holley Dominator it is really nice once you get everything setup. It will drive like a "normal" street car with the right amount of cooling in it. Radiator, Trans cooler, oil cooler, etc.
😮...........THAT THING IS A F'N BEAST!!!
Would love for you to make me a billet ecoboost block and head, be nice to make 1-1200hp and not worried about cylinders splitting
I'm surprised the procharger didn't suck the whole shop into a vortex on start up lol holly molly
So good Sound the Zoomis are so load but this is Asome How much Cost this Motor whit blower on Alkohol....nice day
Crazy 1 spark plug can fire under all that air
How about liquid oxygen inlet, no boost needed?
I'm putting together a 1990 two door Caprice to go big wheel racing, my local chassis shop tabbed me up a ladder bar setup with a quick performance 9" rear end with a strange aluminum third member with a 3.90 gear at the moment mini tubbed my car sits pretty low to be on 26's i have it squatin just a little in the rear nothing crazy but besides some kirky front seats and 10 point cage it still has carpet and a back seat and it's way lighter than a lot of the guys I know who are going pretty damn fast on 26's and 5000 pounds I think I should come in less than 4200. It's on 26x9 fronts and 26x12 with the softest 26/35/305 I could find out back I'm gonna try to run it like a radial car I have qa1 mod shocks with about 4 or 5 inches of extension I'm basically running stock front suspension parts that are lightend up with strange double adjustable shocks I still haven't figured out what spring rate I'm gonna start out with. If I wasn't so poor my little turbo small tire 00 Z28 and the Caprice would have a smx in them except with a huge single Harts 140mm turbo. I'm gonna start out with the a aluminum 5.3 I put together for this car nothing special and pretty budget friendly the machine work is top notch the compression ratio is 11 to 1 it's got a stock crank with the reluctar welded on and summit ls pro rods and pistons they are actually nice pieces the pistons where all b where all within a gram of each other if I'm remembering right the rods where the same way my best friend works at the machine shop and it didn't really need all the extra work he put in it and didn't charge me for it I reckon their shop upgraded a few machine's but this motor is probably the smoothest running one I've ever owned, I picked up some slightly used Speedmaster cathedral port 210cc heads that have been cnc ported by PRC and some swapped the valves with some decent Manley valves, BTR 660 springs and BTR 120 dollar push rods Morel lifters that are supposed to be better than ls7 lifters they don't cost much more than real ls7 lifters a trunion kit and off the shelf btr turbo cam that will be rowdy in a 5.3. I'm running a summit brand 102mms sheet metal intake and throttle body with Bosch 210s I'm gonna run it on Ignite E90 that what I used to run in my camaro for a couple years until I swapped it over to methanol, I've got a used ATI balancer from another friend I would have ran the stock one but over the past year and half I've feel in love with running methanol and mechanical fuel pump setups. The motor hasn't seen boost yet the turbo kit is about 80% finished but it was stout for a 5.3 just playing on my street at the moment it's got a terminator, I run a NO ecu my camaro but the terminator will probably be fine I don't need any more input or out puts for this one. I've got the Vs racing s488 with the big boy turbine and a 1.32 t6 housing it should make the power I want it to for now I'm gonna run my.back up th400 and have Dusty Bradford spec me out a pic converter I only run his stuff . I've tried running a few hard tire races but with 285/60/15s but never 26's with less than four inches of side wall it's all gonna be new to me but if you like grudge racing as much as I do and live in the South I live in North Alabama and I'm in the perfect area of where most all big money big wheel grudge racers race at in North middle and south Ga and North Carolina, Tennessee. It would be awesome to hear Steve Morris's thoughts on big wheel racing and what it takes to go fast on a rubber band no forms of traction control heads up 1/4 mile 1200+hp bricks that are trapping damn near 160mph because everyone who is running big wheel stuff are not sharing anything lol it's more.crazy than the 1/8 mile grudge racing I'm used to plus I've only made 4 full 1/4 pass's in my other car it's a n/t car but I will say it went 8's on my weakest tune I just don't really care for that extra 660 feet it's like I can hear parts yelling please stop I don't like this LoL
This motor has got to go into Mullet ✌🏼😬
Steve i cant afford to buy a set up like that but what to they cost ball park
His "budget" 1000hp LS type set up is about $35,000.
I’m curious to know how much hp it takes to spin the blower at that boost level compared to a roots blower at the same boost.
Good question. At the same time, if I had the room to run a gear drive I definitely would. No belts makes it far more consistent and less maintenance. I would take more parasitic draw if it had to gain the reliability.
Blowers are also terribly inefficient at compressing air. AIT goes wayyy up. And then u can even have an intercooler..
@@MitchRichard65 One word, Methanol!
@@johnbujalski8602 still would be better with a turbo tho
Got dam the rpm on this engine is ridiculous, is the gear drive letting this engine spin much quicker or is it the ecu controller set up this way to get optimum WOT ? wow this thing is unreal a re-engineered pro charger with the abillty to make outer space power? WOW this thing is from outer space i love the sound of this charger makes at high RPM
How would that run on your 572? Vs the 540!
How do u control boost on this sort of combo ?
Besides changing pully
I’ve heard of guys bleeding off boost from the blow off valves.. and seen waste gates rigged up
Just wondering what the big boys are really doing.. I’m sure they are controlling the boost in some sort of dynamic way rather than static setting of the pulleys that build boost with rpm
Thats a bad boy. Be fun at a no prep track
So where does the 80 gallon fuel cell go?
How do you fit that Masterpiece under a hood? The length is way too long!
Can u change pulleys tho to make it faster?
Sheesh! I would love to have an early '60's daily with 324 HP. Hard to imagine what I would do with 3K more. Noice!
Lmao it's for the track your not putting down more than 1/3 of that anywhere but the track
He said you could run it on pump gas with a few changes
might be some witchcraft i don't know about but that graph is why I always prefer positive displacement superchargers or turbo chargers always over a procharger. lots of money and effort for very little torque relative to horsepower. that engine and procharger combo will out perform anything and everything I've ever driven or had but still very low torque on centrifugal superchargers I don't know why but ill never spend my money on them for that reason
what is a zumi don't quite understand that I just asking
Man i would love to assemble insane engines like this for a living. Where does a guy start? Ive been wrenching all my life basically.
Maybe Santa will get me one of theses bad boys
Cleetus McFarland needs this and take mullet next level
Curious- if that engine ( engine itself ) was, say, 100-150 inches smaller but, otherwise about identical. Could you equal the power of the larger engine ? If so, more boost and or rpm, correct? I just wonder how much the displacement effect the power level. thank you
In theory, yes. But that would be in nitro methane territory and parts breakage would be a serious problem
Ruffly what does that monster cost ready to drop in ?
Santa wherever you are please fucking get me one of these
Santa is an anagram for Satan.
@@brucedressel8873 ok bro there’s kids I’m sure that watches this chill
Mr Morris is there a reason you don't make a 565 ci instead of just a 540 ci
This is only a guess, but SM uses hoops and copper head gaskets. Those hoops get really close to the cylinder wall on a 4.6” bore, leaving a paper thin ring of iron between the hoop and cylinder. A 4.5” bore gets the edge of the cylinder .050” further away from the inside edge of the hoop, leaving more iron to support and protect the hoop. Edit: The hoops are installed in heads not block but same situation with support material
I need this in my moterhome..or a good daily supercharged BBC
4:58 is it just me or did i just hear someone summoning the final boss like that supercharger hit fuking hard
Who needs a balancer when you can have compressor wheel 😂
Would this work as a daily driver
Can you put this in my BMW??? Haha kidding of course! Very cool!!
You should make a 2 Wheeler out of that
I didn’t see a cut in the video, does he do a test hit on a cold engine right after starting it up?
Probably had it running before or has controlled dyno water temp.
How interesting, I Never Noticed there's a spot in left hand bottom corner where dyno predicts how fast the car will go & how quick the car should be in 1/4mile..They must be basing the car on prob 3600lbs Or more bcz if that engine made over 3300Hp & 2000fb, Well my car only makes 3000Hp w/a F11 Blown Wedge Engine, 3spd Lenco & Im knocking on 5s door w/a 6.006, was prob making more then 3000Hp tho, I spike my P/M with Nitro & that 6.0 run had 40/60 split Nitro to Alcohol, So prob alot closer to 4500Hp but still goes in V.low 6s running All Alcohol, So to have over 3300Hp Id think the dyno would say more like second faster than it says car would go, Just my dumb-ass 2cents😂
oops, discovering the magic of steve morris engines and dyno lol
And I am happy just breaking into the 10’s naturally aspirated. Not going to lie I really want boost for my 56.
New to this channel, can someone tell me what a zumy is.
Will this engine be chassis dynoed on a hub dyno?
Say rip to the pistons buddy😂
Why no intercooler?
Is this California carb legal?
Very cool
How much for one of those engines with exact same set-up?
Yes
I just love direct drives. Got belt slippage? Remove the belt.
Would it take a 24hr race?
When is Cleetus going to get on board with this?
LOL I love the way he says waaddr (water) lmao!
Cletus needs this in "Rocky"
Cleetus has an SMX engine already..Still in the crate sitting , about 10 months or so.
@@bobgreene5460 Would be fun to see a nitrous thrown at it!
@@lordcommander3224 no need this engine 540cu
Procharger.
@@bobgreene5460 No, I mean the SMX block Cleetus bought.
@@lordcommander3224 He doesn't have a SMX just a regular SME FF edition. Still powerful though
I want a ride in Tony’s car🤤
Would this fit in my Fiat 500?
Imagine driving a 3000+ hp engine to California? wow!!!