Makita 40v Dust Extractor Vacuum Review. Does it Suck? Or Does it SUCK!
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- The new Makita 15L Dry Dust Extractor Vac takes 2 batteries, but only runs on 1. What else does it do?
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they really should have brought this out with an ac plug as well like there 36v model. i wont by the 40v model because it doesn't have the ac option
40v XGT combined with AWS is always tempting to jump from Milwaukee. Thanks for video
Do it!
"Jump from milwookie" to what ?..... lol
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Congrats on the vac and chip! My saws and dust extractor are the non chip version so I have to hit the big power button with my foot! Amazing how well the dust extractors work, especially with the old corded cement board circ saw. Alnost no dust gets away, I can't stand cutting that stuff without it!
Congratulations on your Makita's recognition of your great work! your videos are fin and interesting.
You've got me sold on several Xgt tools that I'm waiting to be available in my area.
I got exactly the same one it's a massive upgrade from the old 18vx2
Well I'm sold! I wasn't sure with with suction figures down dramatically from the non-AWS wet/dry version, but it looks like it still sucks good.
I still think they should bring out a cordless vacuum with auto-clean though.
I sure am glad that I use a dust separator when doing wood working. Never have to clean out my vacuum, just dump the bucket. I have a portable one I made using the Dusttopper. AWS would be great but the only tool I have right now is the LXTx2 miter saw. I use a remote control to turn on the vacuum, and a lot of times I forget. If Makita made one of these that operated as a dust separator, I'd be all over it.
Get the festool cyclone
@@kizzjd9578 That's not going to work with AWS so I can just use what I have.
@@nicksgarage2 it does, i use mine every day.
I do a bit of drywall work and this would be such an awesome tool to have!
I have a corded festool and have Milwaukee cordless tools but dam that vacuum looks like it has a ton of power. The 40V makita system is super nice. That vacuum is a nice size and the rubber bumper is a nice touch too.
Was just looking up the 40V prices here in Canada they are almost 2x the price of the Milwaukee 18V system.
But they will last 10x longer.
Great review as always. Thanks a lot.
One thing that really annoys me about makita twin battery tools or tools with a battery status indicator. The indicator on the tool only has 3 bars, where the batteries all have 4.
Why Makita? Why? Just make them match ffs.
Better still, allow a duel battery/mains option as them 40v 8amp batteries are extremely expensive.... i think around $400 each and you need atleast 4, 2 on charge and 2 being used..... 40 mins runtime, 76 miins charge time, so you have to wait 40 mins before you can work again, unless you buy another 4 batteries giving 86 mins runtime, and 76 mins charge time...... thats 8 x $400 ($3,200 at todays prices).... plus $1,000 for machine or whatever it costs in u.s.a, plus 🤣 the cost of them white bags that dont fully fill and leave a mess if you rip them by sucking up something sharp......
Go buy one of them bagless cylinder vacumes....... or a Henry with 4,000watts of corded power..... no electricity? Then buy a little generator....
Happy days, as i would want to walk into "home depot" with a fresh claim for replacement on 8 batteries that have been overheated and worn out every 6 or 8 months..... them little aa batteries inside them packs can only take so much, and full discharge of a 40v 8amp battery every 40 mins all day for 6 months really burns them out......... and i guess at $3,200 per set of 8, how many times will "home depot" allow a warrenty claim on smoked batteries every 6 to 8 months?...... you will be lucky once or twice, then you will have to keep buyin new yearly, and try to claim on those gurantees.... that machine over 6 years could cost you $10,000 in replacement batteries (8 every 2 years)....... or a bagless vacume that allows water spilladge at $100? and lasts 3 years?.....
DEAR DEWALT TEAM - If anyone from the Dewalt design / product team is watching can you release something similar using flexvolt batteries, ideally with exactly same features PLEASE. It does not have to be M class with shaking filters and alarms like DCV586 (not everyone needs it / works on building sites) something that you can use in a workshop or take it to customers house without making constant alarm noises and filters banging every 30 seconds. PLEASE PLEASE
Brilliant 👍
About time someone did a decent video on the new 40v extractors 👏
Could you please , please do a comparison between the 40v and the 36v as i bought the DVC157 last year , turns out the 40v was released 6 onths later but the 40v seems to be twice as powerful as my DVC157 won't pull the skin off a rice pudding when its on full power .
Great video again , Thank you 👍
Ohh and i also got sick of trying to pull the plastic bags out and empty them so i converted mine to use Henry Hepa bags !
Thanks for your comment, I was wondering to buy old 157 because of the batteries etc I didn't want to buy 40v and spend a lot of money... in deed seems to me that VC004 is very powerful and I will decide for that eventually. But 2.5amp battery in the kit holds for maybe 15min on max sucking option :/
Glad you finally got some recognition from Team Teal. You're very likely to be their #1 salesman in the English speaking world. Heck, they aught to give you a salary 😬
That vac is sweet though, looks like it's got enough suck to put up with a stand-alone cyclone. Don't know if you all have Dust Deputy cyclonics in kiwi land, but I highly recommend it. Keeps 95% of the shit out of your filters.
Thanks , been waiting on a hood review of this exact vac .
Looks perfect to me .
All I’d recommend is You need a plain commercial hard floor tool , they vac concrete so easy and cheap to buy , I hardly ever use supplied vac heads .
Great review 👍👍👍👍😎😊
I can't believe that in 2022 we still have crappy 3-bar battery indicators rather than a % display. Makita must have ordered 100 million of those 3-bar LEDs and has to spend the next 20 years using them up.
Don't get me started on chargers and deciphering the various blinks.
meh it’s not like you look at your battery percentage everytime. theses tools actually made our work much faster, it doesnt hurt you to push a single button to look how much battery you have left, by that i mean how many seconds will you lose from pressing.. 2 secs??
@@regieregie748 Can't see him complaining about pressing the button but rather the inaccurate method of showing the status. Wouldn't hurt to put at least 5 indicators on there.
i'm not entirely sure if i'd appreciate something as fragile on a thing i kick around a con site.
Incredible tool, makes buying into this system make so much sense.
Just bought the 2 gallon version of this in the kit from Acme tools so I can get the extra battery they are running as part of the promo.
Real damn pricey to say the least, but hoping it's worth it.
Dropped 1.3K on this + the little 40v XGT blower that everyone raves about.
The run time you showed on this is a bit worrisome as well tbh. We'll see how it goes. Wish it had dual battery/outlet option for power.
7 months later, hows the run time?
43 mins (like the bigger version of this vaccume) but 76 mins to charge those batteries on 2 chargers.....
To have it work continually, you need 4 40v 8 amp batteries giveing 86 mins runtime, and 4 more batteries charging in 4 chargers which take 76 mins to charge......
To empty a 40v 8 amp battery in 43 mins means they get really hot (as seen)..... i cant imadgine what damadge is being done to the batteries being "fast charged" then emptied in 43 mins ???????
8 x 40v 8amp batteries and 4 chargers being used continually all day, to just suck up wood chips.....
$400 per battery = $3,200 plus 4 fast charge chargers (don't know that cost lets say $300?) then the cost of machine $1,000 that equals $4,500
I paid in the UK, £35 for my corded black and decker bagless cylinder 3,000 watt vacume cleaner, works all day, no bags, just empty every hour as its smaller in size, but holds more then them white bags, and a lot less mess everywhere........
£35 has got to be around $40~? ...... perhaps cheeper for you as its american made.......
Suction is around 30% less, but works fine, with more attachments, (3kw motor is good), with pethair and heppa filtering in what looks like a small car engine oil filter which is reusable 🙂.... never needed a new filter in the 3 years ive used the machine becuse i clean the filter with a soft brush and clean the secondary filter weekly......
$40 or $4,500, and replace bags at whatever cost + replace batteries after 1 year if they last that long..... if your using them constantly 10 hours per day, they will need replacing (8 of them) every 6 months under warrenty)
How many "hits" of $3,200 loss will your retailer take before refusing to exchange them?..... same with manufacrurer claims....?
Then after 2 or so years.... you will have to pay $3,200 6 months later again, and then use that guarantee to keep claiming replacements....
In 6 years, that machine (if they keep allowing you to pull on the warranty will cost you 3,200 every 2 years, or $10,000 over 6 years.....) in that time, i expect my £35 vacume to break down and need replacing due to motor clog up like the last one...... my guarantee is 3 years..... and ive never had to claim on that...... (i bet the "white makita bags" for 1 month cost more then my bagless machine)......
Make your mind up..... $10k over 6 years, or $80 over 6 years ?......
It does look very nice though 🙂
P.s, i shouldn't suck up liquids with my machine, but i have done, no problem if im carefull....... for bigger spils, i use my vax carpet washer/cleaner which is ok for that... (£78, which is about $90~? and only used a few times 5? In 3 years)...... bagless ofcourse being a washer..... total vacume costs about $170 all in, no additional monthly makita bag tax, and i can do just as much as this machine can in my 2 machines 🙂👍🏻❤️.......
No electricity?..... i can buy a petrol generator and that will power either or both vaccumes at a very low cost, but ive never been in that position ever 🙂👍🏻..... enjoy your Makita machine, as some of us who do charity work for the elderly cant afford 10k over 6 years in vaccumes and batteries that heat up and could cause a fire.....
@@mohammedisaa9952 bruh, you really know how to miss a point, gas generator lol, and that fire part is just 🤦♂
Can you do a review on the newest Makita XCV22 (US model) 18vx2 (36v) vac? Allegedly, it's performance has been amped to 120CFM and I'm wondering how it compares to the XGT model?
I'll need a comparison with festool CT 26 vacuum!
I bought this and regretted it. I needed a more heavy duty wet vac for pulling water out of carpets after plumbing emergencies... This did not cut the mustard! After I had wasted my money on this, they released the 80v model, which I didn't buy because I was so annoyed by the whole ordeal
It's not a wet vac
Have always wanted the cordless Makita ,but the capacity on them is terrible .
The 9 gallon Ridgid (or AEG? ),holds so much more.
I install cabinetry ,tracksaw,and mitersaw,and clean up create a high volume of dust.
Paid $100 US for the first one,paid $65 for the second on clearance .
The latter is being moved to the packout rolling cart, and will be running m18 batteries .
The current daily use,is running on Makita batteries .
My pet peeves are changing bags,and not enough charged batteries 3# 2.5,16# 5ahr.
Bet the batteries dont last long, i heard 15 mins for the 2.5 amp ones...... thats very little work time using 2 x 2.5 amp batteries.....
Ever considered a corded vaccume and maybe a little gennie if theres no electric?..... (but there must be electric, as how are you recharging your batteries evey 15 mins which takes near to an hour, so thats loss of work time before you can use a power tool that needs a vacume).....
@mohammedisaa9952 absolutely but I'm not an idiot. I'm not running 300 ft of extension cords through mud. I work on site with little power.
Will be a cold day in hell,before I run extension cords through parking lot to have other subcontractors drive over.
I run a cyclonic dust/debris trap before my vac as I use so much mdf. Just a thought to spare your new vacuum the vagaries of dust.
If I end up using it in one spot, i.e., connected to my Mitre saw, then that's what I will do.
Congrats on the video. I'm a fan of Makita. All my tools are from Makita l8nha 18V, I have a specific complaint about Makita: she doesn't have a hybrid vacuum cleaner with Bluetooth and that, in my opinion, is against Makita. I dream of one day being taken care of.
You can buy a BT AWS adapter that you plug into the vac.
You only have 40 mins of work time before batts go flat and take 76 mins to charge up...... poi tless using it as you have to wait before using your power tools again..... unless you want mess everywhere, which defeats the point of buying that vaccume...
Maybe a corded option is better, no electricity then buy a little generator or a caravaning 12 volt to 110 volt converter and run the corded vaccume off your truck?.....
Detailed video, keep up the great work
Thanks, will do!
I got mine six months ago and just love it. One thing I don't know is how to roll up the smaller hose. It just doesn't want to roll up. The other annoying thing is when one battery starts to run low it seems to be down on power for a while before it changes over.
Hikoki has a cordless M and H class dust extractor coming out soon. Hopefully makita follows them.
Better than expected
So if the numbers don't lie, and I was using cfm and lift numbers for each, this makita vac is more powerful than the cordless milwaukees and metabos. Nearly the same specs as the electric bosch vac090
great review as per usual 👍. i got the 40v router and put the guide bushing on that it came with and the bushing was 1mm out of centre with the bit and it moves around. shocked at how bad it was. did you notice yours being out?
I never use the crappy ones that come with routers.
Yeah just get a set of porter cable router template guides. Cheap, widely available, more versatile and work with the standard Makita base
@@nominalvelocity ok thanks
Holy crap! I'm stoked you finally got something for free! Whhoooohooo
Cheers man... took a while...
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The last scene was the part that I want to see.
Not for me, the batteries are just too darn expensive. I love my Makita 40V tools, but I will never get a vac that needs batteries that cost around 600-800 bucks. No. Way. If you could use it with 2 2,5Ah batteries easy, as in charging on pack while the other is in the vac than okay, I might be in the market but I don't want to ruin my batteries by cycling it that much. Hopefully there are gonn'be some trust worthy long term reviews with smaller capacity batts in the next couple a months.
Maybe even on this channel??
Excellent. I’m considering that beast. I notice in the background that you’ve now got your hands on a 305 40v drop saw. Would you recommend it over the 216, Which I know you reviewed.
it's possible to get 5m hoses from Japan and grey jointers for hoses. The AC AWS relievers can be daisy chained to one vacuum to extend coverage or an extension cord can be used to keep the vacuum in a different room. Metabos solution ìs better for bigger tools that are ac and draw too much power.
Why use "origional" pipe?.... are they not all the same when taped together with duct tape?.... im sure in america, the same pipe can be found, it all comes from china anyway......?
I got this this stuck on my testicles last week and now one of us is bagless.
Been using the makita AWS External wiring harness on my plug-in festool vac and gotta say it sucks because the run time of the vac when triggered by the saw is way too short. Getting one of these this afternoon so hope it’s an improvement.
Can you clarify? Are you talking about once you turn the tool off, the run time before the vac shuts off?
Great review as always, how about a full review of that 305mm 40v saw, don't think you've done one yet?
Coming soon...
Epic video as usual 🔥🔥💯 love that vac
Cheers
Have had my eye on the 8L one. But they only seam to be in Japan. Have the VC4210L. It's nice on the drop saw but would not mind a smaller one for small odd jobs.
The 8L is available elsewhere, where do you live?
I have it’s twin brother…. 003 or something. More powerful but no AWS. I turn it on manually and it’s fine for me when I have a few cuts to make.
The one thing I wanted to learn is how to wrap the hose around the damned thing when in storage.
Lift up the handle, wrap it around then thred the end through the middle of handle, he shows you in the video..... please look at the picture on the bigger cordles vacume demo video
Thanks....😊
It's better for your health, dust extraction is important.
Good review mate, are you able to review the larger 40V mitre saw? I noticed you were using the 305 saw in this vid, but I’ve only seen you review of the 216.
Cheers 👍
Yeah I need to get around to reviewing that.
and why not bring out an on off switch like the dewalt style watch looking thing. i really like that idea it allows you to use corded tools with yhere vac. makita aren't doing to great on the innovation side of things
I wish I had seen this video before someone flew over my vacuum and kicked me; would have saved me a ton of hassle
That bag looks like a A-48430, can you confirm?
Makita is telling me that bag is compatible only for the 18V line, XCV04Z, XCV06Z, XCV07ZX, XCV08Z.
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I just want a mini one 40v for cleaning window tracks of a wet dry back pack.
They still dont offer a wet/dry with AWS as far as I can tell.
Still need a better option to be honest.
XGT, Wet&Dry, Hepa, AWS, AC cord, with Plug socket output, M/H class, 8L/15L options.... until then this is BS from makita really.... some of the XGT tools seem like they're lazy on design. The plunge saw depth stop is just a real let down, and things like that.
How big a battery goes into it? Great review
8amps
Makita need to make an AWS power point/socket so you can plug in your existing dust collector in and run it with the AWS tools. Their AWS vacuums are so expensive. Not worth the outlay in my opinion.
They do.
Is there any way you can let me know the part number for the bags you was using? As the poly bags are no good really and a pain
I contacted makita uk and they don’t have any listings for bags for the VC004 only the poly bags
Would be real great if you can kindly help me
Keep up the great work
Really love what you do and your info helps loads
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Thank you kindly for your quick reply
Do you happen to know what the UK part number could be? As postage on your links are way more than the bags cost due to our rubbish exchange rate
I’d be most great-full if you can kindly help
well if you get the chance to speak to makita again... try to ask them what is happening with that special "in-between" battery pack module thingy. that lets you program the tool with different modes / settings / speeds etc. would be nice to know if it hasn't been scrapped / canceled then when they expect to be launching it. this year / next year. or really any infos about it. would be great thanks so much
Are you referring to the bluetooth module that was introduced with the TD002G Impact Driver?
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL thanks so much for jogging my memory here... yes indeed was it. seems to be called the Makita ADP11 A-73879 Communication Adapter. and i can see is already available for sale to japanese market and also internationally on ebay for $111.
huh... seems like perhaps they are not planning to release it more broadly to international market. or in fact to work for any other tools? i suppose that makes sense if the tool itself needs to actually be designed to be programmable by this adapter. oh well nevermind then.
just remembered it and wondered what happened there with it. my memory wasn't so great remembering the details. still plenty of other cool new 40v stuff keeps coming. thanks so much for clearing that one up
Do you now how long it’s going to run with 2 x 2.5ah batteries ? Makita has a redemption program right now so I was thinking to buy this extractor but in the kit there are 2.5ah batteries
I suspect your wife is probably much happier now with less dust/ saw dust, etc. around the place.
Any info on costs with a twin pack of largest 40V batteries and charger?
And presumably Makita gave you some stats on air flow and suction power?
Makita gave me the tool to do as I please, they give to direction for me making a video. I don't give prices in my videos because there are lots of different countries on this planet and prices change.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Great, thanks.
What’s the part number for the filter bags ? Iv just ordered a vc001gl and it’s comes with the open top plastic bags
I just want a die grinder on the xgt platform.
Nice Cool Tool 😎
Can you direct me to item/model # for those disposal bags, please?
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What kind of disposable bag does this model use?
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Thanks
Булатный лайк мой👍
This review sucks!
Because now I need one.😬
If you have a tool connected with the Bluetooth and the battery dies, do you have to reconnect it once you put in a new battery?
If the battery dies on the tool, when you replace it you just need to push the AWS button on the tool, not the vac. If you change battery on the vac it will automatically connect to any activated tools.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL thanks for the reply. That sounds dead on 👍
Do you have info about xgt 80v vacuum? Now available to pre order in Australia.
I've seen it. It's M class. Haven't used it yet.
did you see the new, one hand , 18v recip saw ?
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Are they bringing a big cordless wet dry vac out anytime soon do you know?
I'm reviewing it right now.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL amazing 🤘
If it doesn’t thump it’s just a vacuum not an extractor
Did the fly kick warning come in handy
No-one's got me yet!
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL good keep an eye out for them could come at any time
Do you think they have a M class cordless in the pipeline? Please reply 🥺
Yes
It really sucks, going need to get one.
Do they make an AC powered vac which has AWS?
You can buy an AWS receiver to plug into AC models.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL but only the models with the power pass through I guess.
@@ChadTolkien correct can be used on any shop vac or dust extractor with power supply on it. automatically turns on the vac just like it would if you had a corded tool plugged in.
"gravity sucks" said the astro nerd.
What's the difference between a dust extract and the shop vac?
A shop vac is for floor cleanup of sawdust etc. A dust extractor is designed specifically for tool hook up. They can be used interchangeably, but if you you're connected to a tool often, you will really appreciate the direct tool/auto start plug in. You can get aftermarket auto plugs to use with a shop vac, but a dedicated dust extractor is nicer to use.
Great video..
There’s no doubt it’s a great extraction unit … but tut tut makita you ain’t gonna sell many in the Uk to carpenters especially, if it’s nots m class .
No m class no work , in the Uk .
Shame ..
cordless festool midi it is ..
£900 with 4 x 5.2 amp batteries.
If you can get free tools of festool for your channel to review.
You know you’ve made it … 😆👍🏼
@Jack Esplin yes your correct on that , festool are the same all there vacs use the same filters , it’s just the alarm that gives it the m class rating .
It’s the L class sticker on the unit , unfortunately that causes the problem.
Print a sticker with an M on it ;)
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 😆.. I’ve got a few ..off eBay .. tempting, I would prefer to stay on the makita platform…
Not True. I work for 7 years on different sites on South East UK and I am using L class extractor all the time.
@@spyker121 depends what your cutting, if it’s mdf it has to be m class .
It’s building & safety regulations in the Uk .
fucking love this vid
Cheers!
Oh no, you’ve taken free stuff! Does that make you a sell out?
That's for you to decide.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL that’d mean I’d have to think - not my forte
Then I'm sure it's all good.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL after a few fermented potato based beverages, I’ve come to the conclusion that you can’t be a sell out, Makita owe you so THEY are the sell outs!
Correct.
Sir I don’t blame you give me some free tools and such to thrash.
Man, this thing sucks!
Sure does!
AWS will connect to up to 10 tools at once, then when number 11 is added, it drops the first one you connected, and so on.
He gives very good advise but, you really need too brush up on what means what when it comes too the batteries, ampage or amp means the longevity of the battery, and volts is the power of the battery, more amps does not mean more power it means the battery will last longer and does not give more power, power comes from the volts,not the amps
Once again you only have half the facts and knowledge. You are mixing Amps and Amp hours up for starters. The Amps the batteries can put out varies from battery to battery, especially when you start comparing 18650 cells to 21700 cells, as well as the fact that the 5Ah and 8Ah use twice as many cells, so put out more power. Voltage doesn't = power, Amps do. Ah = runtime. But these days with modern battery tech, many higher Ah batteries are putting out more Amps due to the cells being used and the amount of them.