FujiFilm X Pro2 vs. X Pro3: Relevant Differences You Need to Know Before Buying

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  • @albertsmith9315
    @albertsmith9315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    When the X-Pro3 was announced, I decided to get the X-Pro2. I read the reports on the changes made to the 3, and found that the 2 would be better for me. I bought it new-in-the-box for less than when it was brand new.
    Some reasons:
    The 3 changed the optical finder to where it doesn't allow for very wide angle lenses, the frame lines get too compressed in the window.
    I like the D-pad.
    I had the X-T2, and had all the film simulations tweaked out for consistent results. The X-Pro2 allows me to get identical results and my Q menus are exactly the same allowing me to choose which camera to use based on the operation, not the results.
    I enjoy my X-Pro2 and am glad to have got it before it was sold out.

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Solid reasons it always comes down to personal preffrences when I come to chosing a camera. When I got my first X-pro3 I had an XT4.
      Awhile later my X-pro got stolen and a was missing it so I made a trade for a X-pro3 against my XT4.
      The X-pro series of cameras have a certain feel too it, that makes me enjoy shooting with it much more than I ever did with my XT4 or any other camera.

    • @perryvalton4245
      @perryvalton4245 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I totally agree even though I don’t owned either of them but I did tried x pro 3 in the Fuji shop last year it was the best experience I ever had with camera.

  • @DyoArndt
    @DyoArndt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I love how TH-cam is recommending smaller creators that should have at least 1M subscribers. Awesome content! Keep it up!

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for you kind words!
      I'll keep it up!
      If you have any questions I intend to doing Viewer questions regularly where I give deeper answers to my viewers questions.
      th-cam.com/video/hltfHoj9HDU/w-d-xo.html
      th-cam.com/video/xdPO0mK8nEw/w-d-xo.html

    • @emelgumus5265
      @emelgumus5265 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kim_Alexander v8

  • @StevenBrokaw
    @StevenBrokaw ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I am upgrading from an X-Pro1 and am trying to decide between the 2 and 3. Thanks for the useful comparison. I don't see much in the X-Pro3 that I'm willing to pay extra for.

    • @ulfgreger
      @ulfgreger 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you dont shoot any video i think the X-Pro2 is the better choise

  • @pandoraefretum
    @pandoraefretum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Agreed. I also have both - XPro3 is snappier in use, and significantly faster in autofocus. The OVF viewfinders differ ; one is better with XF23 and one is better with XF35... I forget myself which way round this is but I think it's the XPro3 which is optimized for XF23.... I agree about the build ; Titanium not that successful in practice. These are my favourite cameras I have ever owned (around 20+ over 40+ years) and still I would tweak the design a fair bit (add 1:1 larger straight through OVF optical viewfinder in order to use both eyes to view naturally in stereo) - also manual mechanical focus lenses, not fly-by-wire. Basically I would go even more retro. That said, these are lovely cameras to use.

    • @torb-no
      @torb-no 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The X-Pro2 is *signifcantly* better with the XF50mm which I feel don’t work that well with X-Pro3 since it only have a single magnification unlike X-Pro2 which has two magnifications.
      I don’t see why the X-Pro2 should be much worse with the XF23mm as it works very well with the wide magnification.

  • @bobboothby9175
    @bobboothby9175 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm Xpro2 all the way but I did learn a rather significant fact about face recognition on back button focus. Maladyetz 😊

  • @bennielaars
    @bennielaars 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I got the X-Pro2 and I like it. I don’t believe I miss anything that is on the X-Pro3 except that it doesn’t store WB shift in the recipes so no quick flipping between them.
    My X-Pro2 has been heavily used and initially regretted not having waited until I came across a mint copy though it doesn’t really affect the experience.

  • @leimleim
    @leimleim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    nice honest review. Build quality descriptions are on point and really helpful

  • @KeshenMac
    @KeshenMac 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    No mention of the optical viewfinder's 2 magnifications on the X-Pro2? If anyone is planning on shooting with wide lenses, X-Pro2 is the better option, X-Pro3 only has the 0.52x magnification while X-Pro2 has 0.36x and 0.6x

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      there 8s a difference however this is nothing the I paying attention to they both does the job for me

  • @torb-no
    @torb-no 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Regarding the sensor colours. Personally I think the colours are slightly better with my X-Pro2 vs X100V (that’s my stand in for X-Pro3), but where the big difference is in high ISO noise. The noise on the X-Pro2/XT-2/etc generation of cameras is just beautiful. It doesn’t quite look like film (only film looks like film), but it has this gorgeous organic quality, that I think sadly is missing in the newer generation of cameras.
    Roligt å se folk snakka om *detaljer i sjølve bruken av kamera* og ikke bare det tekniske spesifikasjoner. Jettebra video! (Beklaga min svorsk. 😂)

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Härligt att höra, mitt fokus ligger på själva användandet och hur saker funkar i praktiken 🙂

  • @paultaylorphotography9499
    @paultaylorphotography9499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video Kim personally I just bought a used X pro 2 I get it next week cannot wait. I love the idea of the hidden screen coming from film camera that would suit me but I’ll just disable the screen on the 2 and I’m sorted I also don’t like the back monitor on the back of the 3 I’d prefer a flush back anyways liked and subbed happy to support a fellow creator 📷❤️

  • @joyjeetpaul2218
    @joyjeetpaul2218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very important video for me as I'm trying to get Xpro2 ( in india 🇮🇳 ).

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice!
      I started to feel that i want an X-pro2 as well there is no logic reason for it tho.

  • @janivauhkonen
    @janivauhkonen หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I personally would like the screen not to be visible, but I would like the camera to be well built, so I'll probably buy an x-pro2 this year 2024

  • @ulfgreger
    @ulfgreger 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for a great video. I'm on my 8 years with X-Pro1 and looking to upgrade. Will make a new TH-cam video when i finally get a X-Pro3

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      awhile ago i said that the X-trans5 detrones the X-Trans1 as the best looking Fuj sensor, Perpahs you should keep rokcing your X-pro1 until we get an X-pro4
      The X-pro3 is however a fun camera to use :D

  • @robter4279
    @robter4279 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the good video Alex!
    allow me to suggest: please change your mic setup as it generates low frequency bumps in the audio every time you put down the cameras or touch the table.

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your comment!
      Glad you enjoyed the video.
      Finding the right sound have been a long journey for me trying and endless amount of microphones and pre amps.
      I thing I finally nailed it, but on this older video I didn't nailed the sound yet.

  • @simon359
    @simon359 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Two megapixels does make a difference, as I can’t remember if they changed the sensor from the 2 to 3. But it does make a difference especially when you crop!
    I used to own the pro2 until the viewfinder broke, a common problem with the camera. I can’t remember if the pro2 was made in Japan, or China, same with the pro3?
    My X 100V was made in Japan and it’s put together extraordinarily well - no problems so far. On the other hand my XT4 was made in China and I’ve had nothing but problems with it. First the back screen went out and then less than a year later the shutter button froze and I couldn’t get a picture for anything. A very costly repair.

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dude we are talking about 6000 x 4000 VS 6240 x 4160 what's that a 3,9% difference? It makes no difference In practical use.
      I never hade any issues with my viewfinder on the X-pro3 it's a different design compared to Pro1 & 2 (if you look at the very first frame in my film your see that it covers all the glas witch the older one don't)
      I pretty sure that all X-pro modes are made in Japan, at least my X-pro1 & 3 are. I don't own the pro2 any more. The XT models seams to be made in China. Fun things with camera problems, I been making my living out of photography for 17 years, and never had any problem with any camera (knock in wood)
      I hope you are more lucky with you cameras in the future.
      My wife hade some issues with her X100T where the LCD got stuck, and I had to tap the body to get it lose.

    • @simon359
      @simon359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kim_Alexander
      I still think it made a difference with the 26 megapixels. The only reason I say that is from cropping, a lot of images in street photography. My pictures have better resolution, I can’t tell you why. Either way I’d rather have the 26 than the 24. 🖖

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@simon359 less than a 4% difference ;)
      I don't think the difference you see is due to the megapixel.
      I came across this @pal2tech film yesterday: th-cam.com/video/IT8hI_BenyE/w-d-xo.html
      He compare XT3 against the XT4 I was surprised about the difference considering that it's the same sensor.
      There is also this link: mirrorlesscomparison.com/preview/fujifilm-xpro2-vs-xpro3/
      Where they compare XT2 (X-trans3 sensor) vs XT3 (X-trans4 sensor)
      Where the X-trans3 performs bether on noise performance at higher Iso. However if it reduce more noise in camera that could result in a softer image when you crop.
      I think what you experience is a combination of this things rather than megapixel count.
      Same goes for some sensors that have anti aliasing filter witch soften the images slightly however fuji X-trans don't need anti aliasing filter
      To be really picky the X-pro2 have
      24.3megapixel with makes the difference 1,7

    • @simon359
      @simon359 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kim_Alexander
      I don’t doubt what you say, I just notice the difference when I’m editing! Remember, I came from the pro2 to the XT4🖖

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simon359 I'm not sure how I would handle a change from a X-pro body to an XT for street photography. Whet I like with the XT4 tho is the fully articulated screen, so that I can hide it!
      Shooting this films with an XT4 it's a nice camera tho..

  • @forneverarrow
    @forneverarrow ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like your comparison! These are two magnificent cameras. If I had to choose one that should have been the XPRO 3 only for the hidden screen. As for the Back button focus… the existence of such a button (and AF in general) in a camera like XPRO 3 is a shame in my opinion. That camera meant to be used only with MF lenses! If I wanted AF there’s numerous options from Fuji like XE4, XT5, XS10 or XH2…

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree with with the hidden lcd but I truly enjoy the af and eye af. just having the option to use a Zeiss Planar with Af is just awesome..
      but it's also fun to trow on some leica glas on it an focus manually.
      there is some Chinese manual lenses that are small and nice as well.
      looking forward for the xpro4 I hope the get rid of the small lcd and make the gap of the rear lcd smaller and less vissable.
      and ofc the xtrabs 5 sensor that one is really good I truly enjoy the look from my xt5

  • @tomscott4438
    @tomscott4438 ปีที่แล้ว

    One huge difference is the fiddly ISO/Shutter Speed combo dial. On the X-Pro2 you either deal with it (completely unnecessary and quirky IMHO) or you set it to Auto ISO. On the Pro3 you now have the option to use one of the Command dials (like the X-E4 and X-100V) to control ISO. I hate the flip screen and would have concerns about that ribbon connector. Then there's the sticking shutter button that is currently the subject of a class action lawsuit in the US. I love Fuji, but they make it difficult.

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  ปีที่แล้ว

      The X-pro is a niche product after all. I always liked the pro3 more than the pro2 mostly for the screen and the back button focus.

  • @NightBrEedzZ123
    @NightBrEedzZ123 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    in 6:54 ish you mentioned that we could get classic negative in editing / changing the media-data , how would we do that? Do you have video on that? I would love to see one if you do!

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      7 houers after you comment i made that film: th-cam.com/video/Uy5IwW-Sr3E/w-d-xo.html
      i hope you enjoy it :D

    • @NightBrEedzZ123
      @NightBrEedzZ123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kim_Alexander THANK YOU SO MUCH ♥

  • @hanzkilian1806
    @hanzkilian1806 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I heard the x-pro 3 has fault problems with the evf and the flip down LCD. I heard the evf flickers and the LCD fails. Apparently the ribbon is TOO tight when pulling down the screen. This Apparently puts stress on the connection causing an issue with the LCD. I have read and seen a few youtube clips referring to this fault.
    Can you give your opinion?

    • @huntrrams
      @huntrrams ปีที่แล้ว

      There’s reports of users saying the shutter doesn’t take the shot sometimes

  • @palamj2
    @palamj2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video. The x-pro3 feels like junk next to the x-pro2 and the flip down screen is just waiting to break. I returned my x-pro3 after a month and kept my x-pro2.

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that's highly subjective. personally I take the x-poro3 over the xpro2
      I had one xpro2 2 go bad in the rain never had any issues with xpro3 in that regard.

  • @tsvetelinmonchev624
    @tsvetelinmonchev624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What do you mean you can change the metadata and have the newer simulations??? Can you make a video on that?? Amazing!

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be a good topic making a video about.
      But you get an ap that allows you to batch change the camera metadata from Xpro2 to Xpro3
      Open the images in capture one or. Light room who now things the camera used was an xpro3 and allows you to use the film simulation that the xpro3 have

  • @ciudadanosdelcosmos
    @ciudadanosdelcosmos ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi..good video...wich do you prefer these or Lumix gx9 or fuji xe3 ? Thanks

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      without doubt The Fuji XE3

    • @ciudadanosdelcosmos
      @ciudadanosdelcosmos ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kim_Alexander.. thaņks for answering....its good .but no ibis...i was looking at fuji xe4 or a6600( poor lcd scŕeen resolution) for street photography...hard ďecistion. Subscribed

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ciudadanosdelcosmos thanks!
      I had a a6600 for a short while as well.
      I believe that Fujifilm provide a photo experience that not many brands can do. Because of its design with dials and it's color reproduction
      If we are talking street photography I would say fuji in almost any situation.
      I really like the xe4 but prefer the xe3 because of the focus mode switch in the front I use that a lot!
      Ibis is slightly overrated keep in mind that even if the camera is stable the subjects you shoot are still getting blurry.

    • @ciudadanosdelcosmos
      @ciudadanosdelcosmos ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kim_Alexander thats true..still gx9 has better ibis than 6600...i am wachting pros anď contras each other...and taking ýour aďvice thanks!

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ciudadanosdelcosmos the micro 4/3 sensor in the Lumix is in the size where things starts to get boring and where you are missing out on alot of character that are associated with the filed of view that you are shooting with.
      Aps-s size just works great it is after all a super 35 siza that been around in the move industry for decades.

  • @tjheritage7986
    @tjheritage7986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an XT1 and I would really like to get another camera with a faster focus. Does it make sense to buy an xpro2?

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Buying an X-pro2 makes a lot of sense its still an camera that is highly up to date and an amazing camera. It would by no doubt make it on my top 10 best cameras to buy for photography in 2022

    • @tjheritage7986
      @tjheritage7986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kim_Alexander Thanks!

    • @pandoraefretum
      @pandoraefretum 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have XT1 with me on holiday. At home my workhorse cameras are XPro2 and 3. In order to improve focus speed significantly over the XT1 you need the XPro3, not XPro2.

    • @drs-Rigo-Reus
      @drs-Rigo-Reus ปีที่แล้ว

      no, get better lenses. 16mp is quite enough.

  • @ExiledGreed723
    @ExiledGreed723 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this video!

  • @goodmythicalmukbang3757
    @goodmythicalmukbang3757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had my xpro3 display stopped functioning twice. Sold them after getting them fixed. Its nice and all but that issue is just concerning.

  • @michaelfedorsha8147
    @michaelfedorsha8147 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I prefer the X pro2 or the X pro 🌲tree

  • @JustMeow22
    @JustMeow22 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine the xpro 3 have the same tilt screen mechanism as the Xt4, just so much better, it gives people choice to shoot with whatever they prefer, hope the xpro 4 will have that feature

    • @js9204
      @js9204 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noooooooooo

  • @Souleymane-kz3np
    @Souleymane-kz3np 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "what is back button focus? well, it's a button on the back that triggers focus"

  • @cstpa1
    @cstpa1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this was really helpful thank you

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your comment!

  • @Narsuitus
    @Narsuitus ปีที่แล้ว

    The differences between the X-Pro1 and X-Pro2 were significant enough for me to make the upgrade.
    The differences between the X-Pro2 and X-Pro3 are insignificant. I will not upgrade. In fact, if I need another body, I will purchase another X-Pro2.

  • @favoriteblueshirt
    @favoriteblueshirt ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks great video, very useful points.

  • @Thomas_Geist
    @Thomas_Geist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For me, had Fuji not eliminated the dual magnification in the OVF I would have kept it. Now l’m looking to buy an X-Pro 2…AGAIN.

  • @ronald7482
    @ronald7482 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will be the x pro 4 better?

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      most likely, there's generally always improvements on newer models

  • @2klatte
    @2klatte ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the X Pro3 made in Japan?

  • @burneshollyman2621
    @burneshollyman2621 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have no idea why you upgraded. The X2 sounds much better.

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  ปีที่แล้ว

      I use back button focus that's enoght reason for me. besides that I also like the lcd on the pro 3 more

  • @NCSTalkid
    @NCSTalkid ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I plan on buying xpro 2 or 4 next year (depend on the design and new feature) along z8. Im hobbyist. Rangefinder style best for street while using m mount lens. Mirorless and dslr are too large and the lens is like cannon

  • @photomorti
    @photomorti ปีที่แล้ว

    Sadly Xpro3 sub monitor and lcd keep dying when you use the screen :(

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  ปีที่แล้ว

      Easy solution is to not use the screen :)
      Some of them indeed have issues I had two houses probably made 100k images no issues

    • @photomorti
      @photomorti ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kim_Alexander Yeah that could work haha. I think i just got very unlucky with mine.

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@photomorti perhaps bit it's that's a well known issue with these there's even a law suit in usa going on. I think what worked for me is that I never use it with the lcd folded down.
      I think if the cable get replaced the risk of getting this issue is more less gone

    • @photomorti
      @photomorti ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kim_Alexander Yeah i think thats why Fuji doesnt seem to make new Xpro3's anymore if im correct.
      This is what im doing at the moment i only flip it down 50% and never all the way anymore after its been repaired.
      So i hope i can enjoy this camera for a few more years.

  • @xiaoying2451
    @xiaoying2451 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Useful thanks

  • @etctera2611
    @etctera2611 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it really annoying to shot with the 23mm f1.4 WR which is bigger than the f2?

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I never tried the 1.4 35mm wr how I ever I use viltrox 23mm 1. 4 that is in a similar size isch. It's not annoying
      it works but it makes you realise how nice the small size of the f2 fujinon is

    • @etctera2611
      @etctera2611 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kim_Alexander i hesitate between the 1.4 and the f2... since i like to shot with low light... i'd like to test them both)

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@etctera2611 i never had any issues with f2 in low light situations where you have light like in the city and so on. Say that you come into a dark bar then that extra stop of light is quite handy.
      but at the same time a small lens on a bar is quite nice.
      today we. can push the iso slot.
      back in the days we we could push the film to 1600 and still took pictures in low light.

    • @etctera2611
      @etctera2611 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kim_Alexander exactly !!! The f2 looks nice)

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@etctera2611 you get the f2 and a viltrox 1.4 for less money than the fujinon 1.4 wr only compromise is that you don't have wr at under f2 but that seams like a small compromise.

  • @herwarthaug
    @herwarthaug ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.

  • @harshnama5168
    @harshnama5168 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    isn't the viewfinder on Xpro3 is bigger then Xpro 2?

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it is but nothing I thought to much about.

  • @joaoconceicao6856
    @joaoconceicao6856 หลายเดือนก่อน

    P Diddy's party time!!!!!

  • @ray_han_ls
    @ray_han_ls ปีที่แล้ว

    Boaring

    • @Kim_Alexander
      @Kim_Alexander  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yet you watch and commenting!