Celtics fans aren't stressing. Celtics have played the most amount of games in the league and played played way too many back to back games. Also, the team is not healthy. I had a bad feeling about the Knicks game when they said Brown and Morris would not play.
Celtics have a shot to run the east even with LeBron staying. Celtics are doing this without Gordon Hayward and with a bunch of kids. The Cavs are running out of cap space to operate with. Unless they pull of a trade to clear some room, their team is only going to get older. The Cavs are the best team in the East this season though
Talk about how everyone was talking about how the East sucks even more this season but if you look at the standings, the East is actually on par if not better than the West right now.
That is what happens when a team dominates a conference, other teams decide it is time to rebuild because it isn't even worth trying to outplay the Warriors or earlier in the decade with the Heat in the East.
Kaipo Gonzalez they been basing conference strength off standings forever??? People say West is better bc a few years back teams in the West were winning 48+ games and missing the playoffs and 41/41 teams in the east were getting the 6-7 seed.
The Celtics loose two games in a row and now they're losing too many games?? Really?? I'm trying to make sense of this. It's not like they lost 5-6 in a row like my team did. (I'm a Pistons fan).
Does it really matter.? Lebron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers are coming out of the Eastern Conference anyways. When the Cavaliers are fully healthy they are going to tapp the Celtics candy asses. The Celtics are the young upcoming team in the future. They have nothing to worry about. It is just not there time. You can put your lips on that because history don't lie.
I love how "trust the process" has become the easiest excuse in the book. Philly loses 10 in a row? Trust the process. Philly loses to the Hawks? Trust the process. Philly goes 0-82? Trust the process.
It's good & spot on analysis. I'd add several other key points: 1. They played way more games than any other team due to the game in London for a front stacked schedule. So much less time to practice, rest & recharge. 2. Some teams they played earlier were not at full strength as key players missing. 3. Morris' been in & out of line up & they hv no go to scorer off a full 2nd unit 4. Shorter pre-season, teams depending on star players without strong system are less ready. That's why you see the Spurs & Celtics win a lot of games with good, solid offensive & defensive schemes. 5. Stevens was spot on in saying they are not a 16 straight win team. Even if they make it 20 straight will not be. Apart from being too early in the season, they still hv many new pc & many rookies to integrate who hv no exp in NBA. 6. Having only 4 players returning means other teams will hv to throw out the scouting report from last yr & devise new schemes on Celtics. 7. 2nd unit has been up & down v inconsistent due to both Rozier & Smart's play & the rookies. Even in the games they played well, they frequently do not play in certain schemes and much more reliant on individual plays & creation then try to pass off & play solid enough individual def but young players missed out on the rotations. This eventually caught up with them. 8. No true versatile & reliable play maker who can score & defend on 2nd Unit: In Steven's system, there should always be at least 2 player makers who can defend & score on floor at the same time to execute the ball movement schemes. Smart & Rozier's scoring so unreliable. Rozier's playmaking is suspect, he's more of 2 guard. Larkin is a defensive liability (like IT last yr) & not strong enough as a good PG in NBA yet. Celtics are forced to hv Horford or Irving to play with 2nd unit players at times, & sometimes need to play with full 2nd & 3rd stringers, and takes time to learn each other & the sets. That's where Hayward's injury really hurts. 8. They got lucky several times as the games could have gone either way. 9. Without Hayward, this team is still a good team to win 47-52 games & make it to 2nd round in playoffs.
You made some very good points swishout. These young guys have lots of energy but that is a major difference in how many games they are used to playing in a season. And the scouting reports adding up was also a key factor you brought attention to. Let's see how it all plays out. I agree on LeBron being durable as a mountain.
Its the schedule too. Celts have played 6 more games than the raptors. The sched is crammed rn because of the london game, and its showing. The players look so tired on the court. Also the bench is weak with marcus morris being out
Gordon Hayward is a snake. I hope he gets well soon and completely recovers from his injury but that does not change the fact that he betrayed the Jazz.
I think kyrie should also be to blame. I'm a celtics fan and based on the few games i've seen, kyrie is stagnating the offense with fancy isos and tough contested midrange shots. The celtics offense relies a lot on ball movement and drive and kicks so when kyrie keeps the ball to himself, it kind of reduces the effectiveness of the team as a whole. Especially late in games, kyrie tends to dribble up the ball from half court and tell everybody to get out the way. As good as he is, and i think he's one of the best pgs in the league, I think this type of hero ball mentality can be kind of toxic. At least with IT, he initiated the play by passing to al in the high post or passed the ball first before getting it back after a cut. Hopefully, they figure it out soon.
THANK YOU. It's been frustrating to watch, especially since the media has only been focusing on Kyrie's highlights. His defense lately has been pretty terrible too, if he can't get a steal, it's usually a pretty easy blow-by and score for the opponent.
I'd say its a combo of Kyrie's isos and lack of team shooting. There's about 5 guys who can shoot. Kyrie, Al, Morris, and the Jays. Jaylen to me seems like he can be hot one day then cold the next and Morris has been in and out the rotation with injuries.
LaQuentin Mack I’m also a Celtics game and after watching every game this year I disagree Kyrie has been getting us wins him and Tatum he’s doing better than when he was on the cavs in terms of playing team ball
Because it's hard to be the focal part of an offense. This team doesn't have enough talent or experience. That puts the load on kyrie who starts jacking up shots. Good coaching is what makes them look better then what they are.
They are just slumping through a dense schedule (due to their London trip) with few breaks and many back to back games. Combine that with the injuries (Hayward, Morris) and guys missing games for rest (Kyrie, Brown, Larkin, and Horford), and there is your reason. Almost all the losses recently had at least 2 starters and 1 or 2 second unit guys out for the game. That is not very discouraging. They"ll be fine.
If they were to get AD and a healthy Hayward they would be one scary ball club. Regardless, I agree they are probably worn out because they play at both ends of floor. I see them in the Eastern Conference Finals this year with the Cavs, but they will probably be out in game 6. I just hope Kyrie can stay healthy.
I hate how people are talking like Kyrie is the only guy we have on or team.. like no one else is productive. Terry Rozier is doing well. Horford is doing better this season to me, compared to last season. Jayson Tatum is killing it, Marcus Smart is pretty decent right now & Jaylen Brown has been doing really well. Stop acting like all we have is Kyrie. Just because he’s been putting up 30+ pts doesn’t mean all we have is him. Every time we have a good PG, suddenly he’s all we have like no one else is doing anything. Foh
@swishout so you not gone note a reason to them losing like that is because Joel was out four straight games and when he came back he played 22 min and we got blew out, and added to our five game losing streak!!!
Celtics are not very deep and likely can't sustain the pace, especially as teams gameplan for the new featured players more. Brad Stephens is their saving grace tho, he can get the maximum talent out of every player on his roster.
Because Kyrie isn't a star, Brown isn't getting enough touches, and they gave up a ton of defense and chemistry. They need to add George or Gasol quickly then they will be a problem long as the Cavs don't counter
After Lebron is gone there will never be another player that takes his team's Heat/Cavs to 7 and going for 8 straight Finals appearances, ever!!! People get used to players coming in and having great careers, scoring points, winning titles, yet no one seems to pay attention to the fact that no one has ever done what Lebron has done and I don't think he will be fully appreciated until long after he has retired!!!
Swish, I think you're looking at this the wrong way. Celtics are fine. Basketball games are games of matchups. You never made the argument of how hard it is for the Cavs barely winning games, just as Boston is barely losing to some of these teams. They are merely swings in action. The Celts will be ok. They'll get to a pocket and roll. And them having rookies inthe starting lineup have nothing to do with it. All these guys have been playing ball all their lives. And Kyrie played less games in college then Brown and Tatum...and still baking people from day one. Lebron's durability doesn't even factor into why the Celtics are losing games...OR winning them. That is a totally separate argument.
TBH if the Cavs was in the western I bet u they would not make it to the finals, bcuz there’s so many gud players on the Western , but the Eastern c’on bruh ain’t no tough players over there. No hate to Lebron fans much respect to y’all.
Is kyrie really the true leader of the Celtics? There are a lot of solid players on the Celtics with a great head coach. Kyrie is the best player on the Celtics but I think I'd say Stevens is the true leader
Celtics fans aren't stressing. Celtics have played the most amount of games in the league and played played way too many back to back games. Also, the team is not healthy. I had a bad feeling about the Knicks game when they said Brown and Morris would not play.
Celtics Nation yeah smh
Celtics have a shot to run the east even with LeBron staying. Celtics are doing this without Gordon Hayward and with a bunch of kids. The Cavs are running out of cap space to operate with. Unless they pull of a trade to clear some room, their team is only going to get older. The Cavs are the best team in the East this season though
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Talk about how everyone was talking about how the East sucks even more this season but if you look at the standings, the East is actually on par if not better than the West right now.
You can't base conference strength by standings.
That is what happens when a team dominates a conference, other teams decide it is time to rebuild because it isn't even worth trying to outplay the Warriors or earlier in the decade with the Heat in the East.
Kaipo Gonzalez I think shows a lot out of a team though. It’s a good way to measure how good a team is
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It's just the Western Conference is more top heavy.
Kaipo Gonzalez they been basing conference strength off standings forever??? People say West is better bc a few years back teams in the West were winning 48+ games and missing the playoffs and 41/41 teams in the east were getting the 6-7 seed.
The Celtics loose two games in a row and now they're losing too many games?? Really?? I'm trying to make sense of this. It's not like they lost 5-6 in a row like my team did. (I'm a Pistons fan).
Factz From AKT ik for real
Factz From AKT atleast you haven’t lost 8 of the last 9 games like my sixers. But again what do I expect from the sixers it’s a losing culture
Alex You had a point but ya lost me when you called him a dickrider.
Factz From AKT they’re 5-5 rn, not looking hot
Does it really matter.? Lebron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers are coming out of the Eastern Conference anyways. When the Cavaliers are fully healthy they are going to tapp the Celtics candy asses. The Celtics are the young upcoming team in the future. They have nothing to worry about. It is just not there time. You can put your lips on that because history don't lie.
Thats why I love SWISHOUT, the ability to present information from different perspectives, great video, keep up the hard work.
I love how "trust the process" has become the easiest excuse in the book. Philly loses 10 in a row? Trust the process. Philly loses to the Hawks? Trust the process. Philly goes 0-82? Trust the process.
Danny Sullivan Philly trades Joel Embiid? Trust the process.
Damn if Hayward where there the minutes load would be taken off of Brown and Tatum... they have way to big of a role for their age.
Guy at 3:22 REJECTED! Lmao
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Jaylen brown shocked me this season he’s a freak
It's good & spot on analysis. I'd add several other key points:
1. They played way more games than any other team due to the game in London for a front stacked schedule. So much less time to practice, rest & recharge.
2. Some teams they played earlier were not at full strength as key players missing.
3. Morris' been in & out of line up & they hv no go to scorer off a full 2nd unit
4. Shorter pre-season, teams depending on star players without strong system are less ready. That's why you see the Spurs & Celtics win a lot of games with good, solid offensive & defensive schemes.
5. Stevens was spot on in saying they are not a 16 straight win team. Even if they make it 20 straight will not be. Apart from being too early in the season, they still hv many new pc & many rookies to integrate who hv no exp in NBA.
6. Having only 4 players returning means other teams will hv to throw out the scouting report from last yr & devise new schemes on Celtics.
7. 2nd unit has been up & down v inconsistent due to both Rozier & Smart's play & the rookies. Even in the games they played well, they frequently do not play in certain schemes and much more reliant on individual plays & creation then try to pass off & play solid enough individual def but young players missed out on the rotations.
This eventually caught up with them.
8. No true versatile & reliable play maker who can score & defend on 2nd Unit:
In Steven's system, there should always be at least 2 player makers who can defend & score on floor at the same time to execute the ball movement schemes. Smart & Rozier's scoring so unreliable. Rozier's playmaking is suspect, he's more of 2 guard. Larkin is a defensive liability (like IT last yr) & not strong enough as a good PG in NBA yet.
Celtics are forced to hv Horford or Irving to play with 2nd unit players at times, & sometimes need to play with full 2nd & 3rd stringers, and takes time to learn each other & the sets.
That's where Hayward's injury really hurts.
8. They got lucky several times as the games could have gone either way.
9. Without Hayward, this team is still a good team to win 47-52 games & make it to 2nd round in playoffs.
You made some very good points swishout. These young guys have lots of energy but that is a major difference in how many games they are used to playing in a season. And the scouting reports adding up was also a key factor you brought attention to. Let's see how it all plays out. I agree on LeBron being durable as a mountain.
Its the schedule too. Celts have played 6 more games than the raptors. The sched is crammed rn because of the london game, and its showing. The players look so tired on the court. Also the bench is weak with marcus morris being out
They don't have enough offense with Hayward out. If Horford struggles offensively any game they don't have enough to outscore the other team.
Radhames Carela youre missing the point they may struggle for a while but is growing pains jaylen and jayson will get better sooner than expected
Gordon Hayward should be there to take the load off Kyrie
gordon hayward's broken leg he will get inured
Cam Newton idiot
Gordon Hayward is a snake. I hope he gets well soon and completely recovers from his injury but that does not change the fact that he betrayed the Jazz.
Anthony Iafrate just stfu jazz are ass and he deserves to go to a better tesm
Anthony Iafrate are you new to how the nba works?
So happy we up now !
You're saying Philadelphia wrong
Shayfer Lyrics it bothers the shut outta me 😂 like where’s the O in that word
Please do one on the Memphis Grizzlies they were once a playoff team and now they're mightily struggling
AD is on his wayyyy to save the Dayyy *Babbbby*
Sike!
Mojo 99 Celtics need to give up Tatum to get AD
AD is injury prone, his not going to help them.
Muhidin Mohamed. Stfu he played 70 games for consecutive seasons.... da injury prone thing is overblown
At what cost. Brown, Tatum and a pick?
Love your vids man
3:22 The kid in the John Wall jersey sums up my life..
Keep up with the great videos!!
I ain't watched more than 3 games this year and I feel caught up watching these vids. Lol
God damn we lost 2 games and know were considered trash
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I think kyrie should also be to blame. I'm a celtics fan and based on the few games i've seen, kyrie is stagnating the offense with fancy isos and tough contested midrange shots. The celtics offense relies a lot on ball movement and drive and kicks so when kyrie keeps the ball to himself, it kind of reduces the effectiveness of the team as a whole. Especially late in games, kyrie tends to dribble up the ball from half court and tell everybody to get out the way. As good as he is, and i think he's one of the best pgs in the league, I think this type of hero ball mentality can be kind of toxic. At least with IT, he initiated the play by passing to al in the high post or passed the ball first before getting it back after a cut. Hopefully, they figure it out soon.
THANK YOU. It's been frustrating to watch, especially since the media has only been focusing on Kyrie's highlights. His defense lately has been pretty terrible too, if he can't get a steal, it's usually a pretty easy blow-by and score for the opponent.
LaQuentin Mack the hell are you talking about? Kyrie always set his teammates up for shots and his teammates brick
I'd say its a combo of Kyrie's isos and lack of team shooting. There's about 5 guys who can shoot. Kyrie, Al, Morris, and the Jays. Jaylen to me seems like he can be hot one day then cold the next and Morris has been in and out the rotation with injuries.
LaQuentin Mack Marcus smart has only been popping shots and flopping, he isn’t helping us.
LaQuentin Mack I’m also a Celtics game and after watching every game this year I disagree Kyrie has been getting us wins him and Tatum he’s doing better than when he was on the cavs in terms of playing team ball
The NBA grind...it's not a sprint, it's a marathon young blood!
Gordon’s play would be great right now. Your right.
Gordon looks like white Kobe
damn bro i remember watching your brandon roy video now u at 78k
Because it's hard to be the focal part of an offense. This team doesn't have enough talent or experience. That puts the load on kyrie who starts jacking up shots. Good coaching is what makes them look better then what they are.
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That no heart beat 🔥
They are just slumping through a dense schedule (due to their London trip) with few breaks and many back to back games. Combine that with the injuries (Hayward, Morris) and guys missing games for rest (Kyrie, Brown, Larkin, and Horford), and there is your reason. Almost all the losses recently had at least 2 starters and 1 or 2 second unit guys out for the game. That is not very discouraging. They"ll be fine.
If they were to get AD and a healthy Hayward they would be one scary ball club. Regardless, I agree they are probably worn out because they play at both ends of floor. I see them in the Eastern Conference Finals this year with the Cavs, but they will probably be out in game 6. I just hope Kyrie can stay healthy.
The Celtics are just tired.
Our schedule has been killing us! The Celtics have played more games and have had just the worst luck with the schedules
Last time they lost back to back they went on a 16 game winning streak.
they'll be fine. People like you clearly do not want to see the Celtics winning. But you was quite right up to the part about Hayward
Where u at?
Great video
RIP wizards fan 3:20
I hate how people are talking like Kyrie is the only guy we have on or team.. like no one else is productive. Terry Rozier is doing well. Horford is doing better this season to me, compared to last season. Jayson Tatum is killing it, Marcus Smart is pretty decent right now & Jaylen Brown has been doing really well. Stop acting like all we have is Kyrie. Just because he’s been putting up 30+ pts doesn’t mean all we have is him. Every time we have a good PG, suddenly he’s all we have like no one else is doing anything. Foh
They finally feeling the void of no Gordon Hayward that's why
W as always for me
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@swishout so you not gone note a reason to them losing like that is because Joel was out four straight games and when he came back he played 22 min and we got blew out, and added to our five game losing streak!!!
Now do a video on the Rockets recent losing streak
Right now the raptors are playing so much better than the Celtics and are going for the number 1 seed. Watch out baby
zBra_JokeR too bad Lowry and derozan choke in the playoffs
J AZ lol how did I know you were going to say that? Thats like the only thing I see people say about the raps
John Bambo Its a Big Problem
zBra_JokeR boi I was talking to J AZ
John Bambo oh... I feel bad now... sorry friend.
Celtics are not very deep and likely can't sustain the pace, especially as teams gameplan for the new featured players more. Brad Stephens is their saving grace tho, he can get the maximum talent out of every player on his roster.
Celtics played around 5 more games more than every other team in the month of December.
Because Kyrie isn't a star, Brown isn't getting enough touches, and they gave up a ton of defense and chemistry. They need to add George or Gasol quickly then they will be a problem long as the Cavs don't counter
After Lebron is gone there will never be another player that takes his team's Heat/Cavs to 7 and going for 8 straight Finals appearances, ever!!! People get used to players coming in and having great careers, scoring points, winning titles, yet no one seems to pay attention to the fact that no one has ever done what Lebron has done and I don't think he will be fully appreciated until long after he has retired!!!
What long way to go???? Must be talking about from now to June.
I know why it’s tough they’re playing real competition now teams are starting to care about winning
1. Ben Simmons
2. Kyle Kuzma
3. Jayson Tatum
Well, there goes my hopes of them dethroning the cavs this year
I hope Whitey Hayward has at least some regrets
We tired is all we played 4 games in 7 days we tired is all
3:23 DAAAMMMMNNN!!!!! Left him hanging
Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.
My nigga you speaking facts I said something similar in my video about the Celtics
Yo SWISHOUT WHERE'S THE VIDEOS
Tough Schedule
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The reason why they’re losing is the teams they play against are scoring more points than they are!
They’ve lost three games!!!! I’m a houston fan but cmon kyries right people like you think that the worlds gonna end when they lose three
Swish, I think you're looking at this the wrong way. Celtics are fine. Basketball games are games of matchups. You never made the argument of how hard it is for the Cavs barely winning games, just as Boston is barely losing to some of these teams. They are merely swings in action. The Celts will be ok. They'll get to a pocket and roll. And them having rookies inthe starting lineup have nothing to do with it. All these guys have been playing ball all their lives. And Kyrie played less games in college then Brown and Tatum...and still baking people from day one. Lebron's durability doesn't even factor into why the Celtics are losing games...OR winning them. That is a totally separate argument.
They are great but not great enough to hold up a .800 winning percentage. Sounds about right.
Can not think other team leader is build like lebron.
Do why the rockets are losing now there on like a 5 game losing streak.
They're not getting in the paint.
*WHY DOES EVERYBODY LOVE LEBRON??* GOOD QUESTION!!!!
THE LEAGUE IS RIGGED FOR HIM, SO THAT MAKES HIM "SEEM" BETTER THAN KD!
The NBA doesn't need 82 games
Why are you talking about the Celtics losing games? They only lost 2 games in a row, u should make a video for the Pistons! ;)
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TBH if the Cavs was in the western I bet u they would not make it to the finals, bcuz there’s so many gud players on the Western , but the Eastern c’on bruh ain’t no tough players over there. No hate to Lebron fans much respect to y’all.
76ers are going to be that good this year bcuz of that exact same reason as the Celtics
Celtics need Gordon back!!~ they need his offense.
Because the other teams are scoring more points than them
AD on the way
Man don't praise LeBron he got veteran and super team don't compare that team to a young Celtics.
they need gordon
Not losing anymore.
Is kyrie really the true leader of the Celtics? There are a lot of solid players on the Celtics with a great head coach. Kyrie is the best player on the Celtics but I think I'd say Stevens is the true leader
Westbrook last year Forced his team in the playoffs Lmaoo not only Lebron
Rockets are losing too
Lol that guy got left hanging by LeBron. 3:18
Its because Kyrie doesnt believe in Santa so hes on the naughty list
3:20 REJECTED
here before 700 views and 90 likes
Because its a bad game that simple..seriously u cant keep up a streak unless ur the 4 all star starters golden state.
Not 2009 again
Why would axe someone bro, should just ask them😉😂🤷♀️
they made a noob moove trading avery bradley
Bruh they only got 10 loses
Small slump is all. It happens all of the time
lil pump the goat
Stephanie Curry Really, why
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Its only December come on.
They’re tired plain and simple
Ofcourse LeBron is durable. He rests everytime they're getting blown out or don't play some games even if he's not injured
philadollphia?
They've played a lot of easy teams