Stephen King's Carrie | Jennifer - The Cinema Snob
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- The Cinema Snob has a double feature episode with the original classic 1976 adaptation of Stephen King's Carrie, PLUS the 1978 knockoff Jennifer, this time about a loner students who uses snakes for revenge!
Writer/Creator: Brad Jones
Title Card: Shaun Millington
End Screen: Nick Michalak, www.ravensfilm.com
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So Snob, when are you reviewing C.H.U.D.? I've been trying to get another reviewer, Brendon Tenold, to review it too. It's another '80's cult classic with a message like The Stuff and They Live.
th-cam.com/video/iOTxiLYFF-Y/w-d-xo.html I hope you'll review the infamous flop musical for "Musical March (In September)."
You outdid yourself with this one, snob! I could not stop laughing for 35 minutes. I can't believe you said it - people used to mistake me for Jessica instead of Jennifer too. I didn't get my own theme song until 867-5309, though. You hit ALL of the mentions except I was expecting an Eight is Enough somewhere. LOL
Have you considered reviewing the Carrie television movie, Brad??
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Does this mean you'll be reviewing Bolero next week?
They're all going to enjoy a humorous chuckle at your expense Jennifer.
You must have told me, mother. You must have told me!
He said some complimentary things about it too though.
"Carrie" is not only an effective horror film, it's a heartbreaking tragedy. Sissy Spacek and Piper Laurie are simply magnificent as plaintive, victimized daughter and violently disturbed mother. Hollywood should take note: In order to understand a film, we have to feel something towards the characters(sadness, anger, fear, respect, as examples), not just watch people read lines like they have nothing better to do.
And to really understand what led up to the ending. You can’t truly appreciate her tragedy from this review; one needs to watch the movie. I really love that “Carrie” shows the psychological aspects of the character, and with the way things went, it was almost inevitable that she would snap.
@@dancepiglover Agreed, the deck was fatally stacked against her, and there was no help to be found. As a therapist, I think they did an excellent job portraying the torment abused and bullied teens experience in their daily lives, and how dangerous even parents can be.
@@dancepiglover The book goes even deeper (as well as hints about the psychic powers being genetic, and going hand-to-hand in madness), you really see all of her thoughts and the breakdown is even more brutal (and consists of her wrecking a significant portion of the town too, not just burning the school gym and killing her insane mother), it honestly legitimately made me ugly cry reading it.
Hollywood no longer knows how to tell stories. All it does is show douchebags with hot bods being douchebags.
@@graemesmith6721 that's the truth!
One of the things from the 80s I would want to bring back was the roller skating rinks. For kids under 10 or so, the music, snacks, disco lights, etc. were pure cheesey goodness.
"Billy, meanwhile, is getting back at the pig who turned him down for prom."
LOL!
The 70s, an entire decade of “is this porn?” movies.
And 90% of the time the answer to that question was "yes, yes it is".
@@jamesgatz4490 Even Dawn of the Dead?
Especially Dawn of the Dead.
Yeah the 1970s had a porn overtone to it.
@@emilymatthews2990 The 70s was really hairy
@@emilymatthews2990 That's because of all the cocaine!
"We still have to find out who spiked the vodka with fruit punch"
I laughed waaaay too hard over that joke...
The best thing is that with ripping-off Carrie in Jennifer they went as far as to cast another girl of Czech descent with a bird surname (Špaček means Starling in English and Pelikan is, I think, self-explanatory) for the main role. Now that is some dedication!
Neat linguistic cinema trivia.
Curious indeed and most intriguing! 😳
Sandra Tremaine makes Chris look like Lizzie Macguire.
The 70s: The decade where the statement "That is some glorious hair" applied to both the men and women.
The original came out when I was a teenager.
Yes sir.
Above and below the belt.
@@bababui69foru I’m delighted to see full fluffy bush coming back in fashion. Shaving all that was for my late teens and 20s. In my 30s, I was struggling with too much shit to even want to date, let alone fuck. Now, in my early 40s, I enjoy that, even if bush weren’t considered “sexy” again, I’d still not give a fuck. It just feels good to not feel obligated either way.
Yeah,
and 65% of it is down their pants 😱
Carrie (1976) still scares me, almost as much as memories of middle/high school, after all these years.
Carrie and Star Wars were cast in a joint session, so a lot of the actors auditioned for both movies. Sissi Spacek was almost Princess Leia and Carrie Fisher was almost Carrie.
Well, then that Last Jedi moment of Space Leia would've been more acceptable had Spacek played her.
I read that William Katt was present at that audition with the intention of trying out for the part of Luke Skywalker.
So John Travolta was almost in Star Wars? Hell, hi would be great Luke!
I wonder if Fisher and Spacek would’ve done better or worse if Fisher was in Carrie and Spacek was in Star Wars.
We’ll never know.
Carrie and Carrie!
"This movie's so good that if the Razzie were around they would have nominated it for worst director." Seriously I really want a Snob video that's just about the history of the Razzies and why they have always been terrible.
Gotta love Stephen King's bullies. They are all borderline insane.
Really makes you wonder what his school life was like.
If ya complained about harassment the school counselor would just take a brick out of his office drawers and tell ya to smack them with it, then after ya leave he would tell the bullies you're coming for em so set up the ambush
And yet that's somehow better than today's "You stood up for yourself so you get detention, too."
At least the brick gives one the chance to fight back.
@@Thraim. You know you won the fight when you got out of school suspension. That’s not even a punishment, that’s like rewarding a gladiator for a good showing.
IIRC he based them on Charles Starkweather
@@MrPlow-jc4cr No, he bases most of his actual psychopathic killers after Starkweather and sometimes certain events, like the early sequence of Lloyd Hendried and Poke rampaging throughout the Southwest in The Stand. I don't think he's ever fully commented on the bullies, but it does feel like he must've been bullied some as a kid or observed a fair amount going on considering it's a pretty common King theme.
Generally I think that one of King's best abilities is his ability to channel childhood and teenage years extremely well, and one of the side effects of that is the ability to both channel some kids' innocence and some kids' maliciousness.
It's perfect. I have EXACTLY 35 minutes before I gotta open up my shop... and here is a 35 minute new snob episode.
'House' should have featured William Katt flashing back to the prom massacre rather than Vietnam.
Then getting a limp, vicodin addiction and becoming a doctor
The quality between the two movies is quite staggering. Carrie looks timeless while Jennifer looks what I imagined every 70s movie look like
Great, now I miss the days again when the Snob videos used to open with the theme for Greatest American Hero.
Can’t believe you brought up Willard. I loved Willard!
I went to school in the seventies, and I *HATED* cigarette class.
What could I do? It was mandatory. 🚬
I got out of it by taking an extra light beer credit; sadly, it hurt me on my college applications.
@@Dream0Asylum the actual beer experience probably paid off at college, though.
The fact that there was a Stroh's brewery a mile from my school and also, Stroh's thought the green by my dorm needed an 18-wheeler with 10 taps on each side, free to students, every other Saturday, was... shall we say, impactful. I lasted 2 semesters. 🍺
Did any of you even sign up for the optional Acid course? Sure you could have gotten your optionals from Pot and Coke 101, but this course would have gotten you through the Light Beer and Cigarette Classes with nothing but Cancer in your lungs, poison in your liver and beautiful images.
I went in the 90's, all we had was Ecstacy class.
What do you mean by 'cigarette class'?
So the Jennifer movie goes for straight up attempted murder. Pure brilliance.
The 70's when "Jennifer" would get a PG rating.
In the 70's you had stuff like Grizzly where you could show a 5 Year Old kid's arm getting ripped off and still get a PG. Then came the 80's and the horror movies triggered the MPAA to an absurd extreme. Must have been one hell of a change in management.
@@trustno173 I thought that happened in the 90s? Cause I remember 80s stuff still getting away with a LOT. Red Sonja had the main character get gang raped (partially on-screen) and it was only PG, you could show boobs at least once in pretty much any movie and still only get PG-13 at the highest, and Gremlins was only PG I believe, and was practically considered a kid's movie.
@@AnInsideJoke In the 80's they came down hard on horror flicks. Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street flicks got cut up, movies like the haunted house classic The Changeling got an R-rating even though there's nothing in the movie to warrant one (Poltergeist is far more graphic than the Changeling yet it still has a PG), and it was a time when Spielberg was pushing the limits of what a PG movie could do with Gremlins, Indiana Jones, Goonies and Poltergeist. The MPAA were just weird back in the 80's and 90's.
@@trustno173 Seems like a another way for an influential few to moderate taste to their personal dimensions.
@@AnInsideJoke Not to mention Sheena, Queen of the Jungle, where Tanya Roberts swims naked, shows her boobs, and the movie still gets a PG rating.
If someone killed my cat, you can be sure I’d get my revenge on them. Most realistic part of the movie, lol.
If someone even joked about killing my cat, I’d have my revenge and send the bastard straight to the pits!
Not gonna lie, I thought he was gonna snob 'Jennifer's Body' when I saw the name Jennifer in the title. Also, thanks for making me relive the ptsd of that Carrie ending.
Brad needs to snob Jennifer’s Body.
As soon as I see Piper Laurie, I just see her in Twin Peaks. Also, Margaret was one of many inspirations for Dahlia Gillespie in Silent Hill.
I think of Dream a little Dream.
These movies, while polar opposite, were both awesome!
6:47 nice (sniff) call back. Believe it or not, I remember when you had CARRIE’s theme song too.. 🥺😭
15:18 I’m surprised you didn’t include the _xtremely creepy_ scene where Carrie first walks into the bathroom, turns on the light... and then you notice _her mom was standing behind the door the whole time!_
15:55 _actually_ Snob, the statue in the closet is not Jesus but a saint who was murdered by Roman archers (hence the arrows). I think it is St. Sebastian (?).
Also note how she orgasms at the pain.
16:06 you can see glimpses of that original ending with the “rocks from heaven” crashing through the ceiling. I think the reason they ditched it is you couldn’t really _see_ what was happening, especially at night.
16:36 fun story: when Steven King went to watch the film, he sat in the very back row. According to him, 2 of the biggest, baddest black dudes came in and sat in front of him. When the movie started with the shower room, they were laughing and King thought “how in the hell are these guys going to get scared?”
... _but_ ... as the movie went on, they got quieter and quieter. When the movie got to this part, both of those guys _jumped in the air screaming_ when Carrie’s arm grabbed Amy.
And King sat behind them... smiling 😁
Never underestimate how easy it is to scare black people with ghosts/zombies/etc.
Yep, St. Sebastian! One thing I've never heard mentioned is how you hear the sound of shrill violins to signal Carrie's telekinesis stuff. But at the end, when the house is collapsing, I think we're supposed to think it's Carrie who is bringing the house down... except the sound isn't there. If it isn't Carrie, who is doing it...?
“Jennifer. Rated-PG.” Yep, perfect for all ages.
Very well directed film by Brian De Palma.
DJ Mexicano de TX fun fact Stephen king like de palma movie more then his book unlike the shining and stanley kubrick ( he did like full metal jacket )
Director of such classes as “Scarface” and “The Untouchables.”
The 3rd in the series is called 'KAREN' and she can summon the manager.....
Jammer Fan yes but that would be 9 or something like There a male version call Patrick
Also ruby and the spell
All mangers beware
@@macgyverdallas9444 I need a book cover of her standing in front of a burning Applebees: *Somebody called The Manager*
The Grand Finale is called "Ashley" just look up the Florida girl who called her boyfriend to a Burger King to kill someone because her order took too long (he did BTW). Karen's are a thing of the past now.
@@beejay271 *Karen has sent a complaint*
Now I want him to review "Carrie 2 - The Rage (1999)"!!!! :) :)
I love everyone slapping Chris.
The two weeks earlier joke is soooooooooooo TRUE.
I remember watching Carrie on network tv when I was a kid. Sissy Spacek scared the hell out of me so much, I refused to see her in another movie for a few decades.
Another Piper Laurie one to check out is Dario Argento's Trauma. Even has Pino Donaggio doing the music.
Two classic films. Good ones
Carrie was a boss ass horror movie.
Great movie. I watch it every time it’s on
You know what would make for an interesting remake? Jennifer.
and all the snakes will be CGI
With really high quality special effects on the snakes!
It totally would. I’d vote Quentin Tarantino to direct and Millie Bobby Brown to star as Jennifer.
I like how the cars just blow up in 70s movies.
It's actually kind of funny, the one 70s movie where the car doesn't just spontaneously explode is "Cujo." Except the car in that one is a PINTO, aka, the one 70's car that was actually capable of spontaneous combustion!
How else can you have the villain, or in this case, protagonist, impassively view the wreckage while eerily lit by flames?
Ack-shually, Cujo was an '80s movie. You should consider checking your sources.@@AnInsideJoke
I think Carrie is a good anti bullying psa, and that we need to teach kids morals and empathy more in classes.
Problem is, the concept Morals and Empathy have gone down the toilet. Hate is the new norm, unfortunately.
We can bring it back but only if we actually give a shit about our kids.
PJ Soles would take what she learned from Carrie about blowing up schools to Rock'n Roll High School.
Hope Brad gets into it as well
I just wanna have some kicks, I just wanna get some chicks! Rockrockrockrock Rock 'n' Roll High School!
I forgot how good this movie is. Also, thanks for that ‘Ruby’ joke.
Loving the use of the Carrie on Broadway commercial 😜
That’s it. 10:10-10:24 best snob ever. I’ve watched every episode for ten years and this is the perfect set of jokes. Peak. I can die now.
This became my all-time favorite Snob episode for that well timed "Happening" reference at 5:49.
@2manynegativewaves * Patreon supporter.
Only took me over two years, but I finally saw JENNIFER. It's actually pretty good.
That BIG snake, at 33:18, resembles the one in the serpent cult scene from Conan The Barbarian. In fact, I'm amazed that YOU failed to remark on THAT!
Carrie is probably the only Stephen King novel to have inspired 2 feature films, a Broadway musical and a television pilot.
Wow. I just love how Jennifer came out two years after Carrie but has significantly worse video and sound quality. That ending scene was pretty hilarious though, like the 70's version of Anaconda.
Carrie well deserves its' legendary status. Jennifer..... I mean, it deserves a watch, it's not a bad popcorn flick and you really DO want to see the bullies get theirs.
Not only that, but, if Carrie had been so inclined, she could have used her telekenisis to throw snakes at people. She beats out Jennifer in pretty much every way.
@@AnInsideJoke Agreed. Heck in the book she essentially wipes out the whole town!
You had my "like" with the description of Jennifer!
As someone who, like Brad, grew up going to a Christian school, i can say that at least 3 of the moms were essentially Carries mom
You had three Moms? Weirdly progressive Christian community to produce a Carrie Mom.
Nawf 4 other students moms. One of which I am surprised hasn’t turned out to be Ralph Feinnes from Red Dragon
Depends on the time period and location of the Christian school. I imagine that a Christian school in the midwest Bible Belt in the '70s would have resulted in an 80% or more saturation of Carrie's moms.
InsideJoke you never met Jackyln Swope. She literally believed that every time w Pokémon game was turned on, demons would be released upon the world, I know this because I played Pokémon platinum in school, she saw me and conducted a spiritual ritual for my eternal soul. I wish I was making this up
@@nealmaxwell790 Sounds like Utah and D&D. I had a friend whose doctor gave them a 20 minute lecture about D&D being Satanic.
Carrie remake is now 10 years old, and I didn't remember it even existing until re-watching this!
To be fair I scream "booo play some Alan Parsons Project" every time any band plays anything that isn't Alan Parsons Project
As you should.
As you should! Pink Floyd (or should I say David Gilmour) spoke of how much of APP influenced their music. You can hear it actually in some of the songs on Wish You Were Here and Dark Side of the Moon for sure. And on Echoes. They even served as Engineers on some of the songs at the studio. They really are the EYE IN THE SKY.
in an alternative universe, there is definitely a movie where Lisa Snake uses pelicans for revenge.
I am so happy I watched this stoned
Dont know how the heck i came across this channel but im addicted. Absolutely Killer channel.
Yea, best to leave The Rage: Carrie 2 stranded on the Island of Misfit Sequels along with Caddyshack 2, Dumb and Dumber 2, and of course A Christmas Story 2.
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I didn't hate The Rage....but I was a kid when I saw it and haven't seen it since so.....
And all the Starship Troopers sequels.
So glad "Ruby" got a mention... Should probably be reviewed by the Snob.
I absolutely love this movie, my personal favorite Stephen King movie adaptation, so much better than the 2013 remake.
Were I to have directed the remake, I should have determined to somehow follow the basic structure of the novel itself; perhaps something involving a list of entries in a search engine on the subject of her (with the title being her name typed onto the screen). If done capably, it could become not just a superior horror story but an excellent satire on the media as well. 🤔 🤨
Carrie is the best adaptation of a Stephen King novel, Next to The Shining
Joey JoJo Brad should do both shining damm it
Even tho Stephen King hated the Shining movie
DigitalCupcake Then again same with Peter George and Anthony Burgess neither like what kubrick did
I mean for peter George is turn his book red alert into a comedy
And for Anthony burgess is kubrick use American version of clockwork orange book and did not use that happy ending
Joey JoJo also he need to do firestarter too
Shining isn't good adaptation.
Jason didn't fight Carie in this?
He must have been in jail....
He's back! The man behind the mask!!
Jail.
The Man in Black was too busy breaking Michael Myers out of jail to swing by and pick Jason up.
Why does he say jail before the song? I don’t really get that joke. I know Brad says it, but I don’t get what he means.
And now we ship them
@@johnschou2172 I think he said in a review after that that it was an editing error he missed.
Do you know who should have played at Carrie's prom? Johnny Charo!!!!!!!!
Ooh, double feature Snob episode, hell yeah.
The 70's, when all the movies kicked ass!
When Carrie was asked why she did it , All she had to say was I Don't Like Mondays!
These videos are the best how the hell have I not heard of the cinema snob yet? Schlob on the snob, like corn on da cob, yall!
Forgot how great "Carrie" is. The soundtrack is one of the best ever. The acting and special effects are amazing.
Jennifer Jennifer, Jennifer Jennifer there's magic in your name. I want the movie soundtrack.
Everyone here named Jennifer has finally found their theme song.
Indeed they have lol.
@@JanetStarChild That and 867-5309. I was always thinking they were saying my name when I would see the trailer on tv. I would be "WHAT! WHO IS THAT? WHAT DO YOU WANT???"
Jennifer was the first movie my family ever saw once we got HBO. I will always have a soft spot in my heart just for that.
Carrie 1976 truly is one of my favorite movies of all time. Everything he said here I completely agree with and it's definitely the standard I set for storytelling about telekinetic characters
No rubber bung? Test tube? Bunsen burner first? Straight to glass beaker. Well done for highlighting the cruel and often hidden side of science. It took guts and shameless oversharing! 😀
Ain't even finished watching and I can already tell the only thing scary or even unsettling in Jennifer is the rampant infestation of Perms
I saw Carrie when it first came out, the audience screamed at the ending.
The GIGANTIC snake in Jennifer resembles the one in Conan the Barbarian (in that scene where they're stealing the jewel in the snake cult tower). And I'm disappointed that you didn't show/remark on her little victory twirl at the end of hat flick.
I'm listening to you talk about the marketing for Carrie while I sit next to my Carrie poster...and my Carrie collection. I guess you could say I very much like this movie/ book/musical.
Edit: you referenced the musical, yayyyy! Btw Betty Buckley's direction for that death scene was "squirm like a bug on a pin." That is all.
Yay! Double feature!
Thanks Snob!
There's like two scary shots in this movie and the rest of it is just genuinely heartbreaking
'Carrie' makes my heart ach. I should've known not to get excited when things were looking up. She was so happy🥺😔
I actually got to see a demo of Showscan here in Brisbane in 1988. The Hoyts Cinema showed the short “Kiwi Adventure”. It was pretty impressive & I was disappointed nothing much came of it.
Good god, you remember "H.O.T.S.!" I thought I was the only person on Earth who remembered that.
love Carrie ( 1976) , Jennifer, Ruby, the musical. , the rage , 2002 tv movie
You don't remember the SNL skit from 1976, The Snakehandler family? Real catchy theme song.
No one can deny that Halloween III would have done much better if it had a disco scene. That's just silver shamrock science right there.
Especially if the “doo DOO doo DOO” was made into a disco beat.
“Do the Shamrock!” (Do the hustle!)
Great movie Carrie! I've never watched Jennifer. But it do seem like the movie as so much in common with Stephen King's master peace. I'll have to watch it
They're gonna laugh at you!
THEY'RE GONNA LAUGH AT YOU!
T H E Y ' R E G O N N A L A U G H A T Y O U !
(face melts)
ThEy'rE gOnNa LaUgH aT YoU!
They're gonna laugh at YYYYYOOOOUUUUUU!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whoever liked my comment thank you!
Thanks for the like!
Yeah and in Carrie part 2 the burnt-out prom room is still there you would have thought they would have made a memorial park out of the place.
I saw that clip!!!
Piper Laurie thought the mother's dialogue and wardrobe was so absurd that she still considers 'Carrie' to be a black comedy.
Fuck, now i want to watch the damn movie again. Thank you, Brad for showing this classic some much deserved love.
It took me so long to figure out that the dummy being thrown down a well at 33:22 was supposed to be the guy being eaten by the snake. Just why the snake's stomach is portrayed as a sheer drop with a solid concrete floor is beyond me; but I guess they tried.
I think the snake bit his head off, and the rest of him fell off the roof.
Holy shit, we got references to House, Hollywood Knights, and The Man himself, Estus Pirkle. I vote greatest episode ever. Please do one about the greatest horror, if not overall, movie of all time.....House II: The Second Story.
Did you Know while auditioning for Carrie William Katt also auditioned for Luke Skywalker
Please learn the actual definition of irony.
dreamlandnightmare how much starch do you have to use to understand true irony?
Both films had shared casting sessions because Lucas and DePalma collaborated and supported each other over the years. You would be surprised who tried out for Star Wars and ended up in Carrie and vice versa.
And Carrie Fisher (Princess Leia) also auditioned for the role of Carrie.
5:24, it’s a me, Mario!
What I love most about this, is the menstrual pad commercial I got in the middle. Just 👌🏻 perfection.
So, Jennifer. I saw this when I was 8 or 9, never knew its title until now, 30+ years later
LOL Great job!
The "if this were made in 2020" line is agonizingly accurate.
04:55 I am now officially waiting for the _Red State_ Cinema Snob episode.
subbed, just found your channel this morning great stuff!!!!
Double features are awesome!!!
The original Carrie is definitely a classic, I still like the 2013 version though.