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This is the best channel on cycling! I used to watch WEDU in the early days until they became too commercial and never went back.
100%
Yeesss indeed, as well they talk all the time only his favorite: Pogacar. I think dont recognize Jonas V.
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@@angelamacchi977 C'mon that's not true at all. Considering that Tadej Pogačar is a serial winner of the races where he appears, this would be completely normal.
But on Wedu they are actually very anti-Pogi, especially George Hincapie, sometimes Armstrong too.
It's true. But Wedu JB2, with Johan Bruynel is a super podcast as well. Johan is an incredible connoisseur of cycling and a very interesting conversationalist.
Lance A. and George H. can hide from the interestingness of the show because they are much much more boring on their Wedu podcast.
The main reason I love Chris Horner:
Watching Chris race in Cyclocross in NJ, geez maybe 15yrs ago..Not winning, but getting 2nd place, but he was flying.. and friendly after his race with the racing fans..Very cool
You don't have to be perfect, you just have to be better than everybody else
No matter how you achieve it…
Just like being chased by a bear. 😏
Well the point was Tadej claimed it was perfect in an interview. Clearly it wasn’t but it was close enough to dominate
Tadej dominated on physical prowess. Just like Remco.
Well, fastest time. Yes 😜🦋👊
My Man Victor Camp... A win is a Win
True that. 😜🦋👊
The biggest problem UAE has now is what to do with Ayuso. I can't see him ever being in support for Pog. He doesn't want to be, and Pog and the rest of the team don't want him.
he'll go 2 Movistar 2 rot
What is the basis for all of this? Ayuso did ok. Just ok this year. Really can't understand what happened.
I don't understand this. What happened? He did ok this year. Just ok.
@@locoflahute8916Hey, I like Movistar no matter what.
Go to ineos and partner with Rodriguez m
We back on the Chesterfield 🎉
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Just can’t wait for your daily dose of knowledge. This knucklehead truly appreciates your perspective on pro biking. Thanks and keep it coming
Tadej raised his fitness level from '23 for sure, never appeared to be struggling, took off like a rocket whenever he wanted. I think
he needed a wide margin of victory to avoid criticism that he only won because of Jonas's depleted condition.
In ‘23 was his preparation hampered by a fractured wrist in april. For 6 weeks or so, it was home trainer only.
I would love to compare his numbers to the other past years at the TdF. I think he looked better also this year but in years past he would also drop form at some point during the race, where this year it never seemed to happen with the exception of stage 11. 🤔🦋👊💪
@@ChrisHornerCycling Pretty sure he has improved numbers since ‘23. As stated, he fractured his wrist in april in ‘23. Restricted to 6 weeks on hometrainer only. There is much speculation (mou twitter leak), that his new coach Javier Sola, has changed his training (probably added a bit more structure to his high intensity work) and is also using a Core device increased his ability to handle heat.
@@ChrisHornerCycling do u think kuss would make a difference cause i think that without kuss visma cant win vs pogacar 😃
One of the few people who says Tours de France. Wellplayed Horner!
Pogacar wasn’t the only one to improve his tactics later in the race.
Hehehe. To be fair to others out there saying it wrong. It took me all month to get finally get it right on autopilot. That drove me crazy thru out the TdF coverage 😂🦋👊
Pogacar was perfect this year because he avoided crashes and avoided illness through the Tour and when Pogacar doesn't crash or get sick or takes all his calories he's on the form he was this year and it was clearly shown this year as he never dropped.
And 2023 Stage 5 Pogacar's girlfriend Urska crashed hard that day and Pogacar was worried and just didn't feel like fighting or attacking that day that's why he didn't try that stage and Vingegaard gained all that time.
Pogacar doesn't make excuses. His fanboy club shouldn't either.
@@stevenmeyer9674 😄
Maybe the crash affected Pogi in other ways related to his drop in form. But Pogi certainly tried still. 🤔🦋👍
@jordanbirns4041 he bonked ..I’m sure he does love his girlfriend (watch the video where he’s interviewed and they show them at home in Monaco and goes on a ride w interviewer and have coffee and treats ) but he’s a competitor first, as is she
@danielreyes6225 I watched it along time ago, I'm really thinking he was worried about her more than the stage and I'm pretty sure he said that after the stage last year.
I mean winning the Tour and picking up 6 stages sounds pretty perfect to me. Obviously, there was stage 11 where he attacked too soon/didn`t eat enough but let`s be honest, this was as close to perfection as it gets.
He won by amile without being perfect so thst should everybody else but pogi 😄
The best thing about this video is remembering all the greatest Visma moments from past tours. Thanks Chris!
Perfection is in the eyes of the beholder. In Tadej's eyes, he was perfect.
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Then he has still some things to learn.
Chris is 100% right here. And if more than one rider is even close to his form next year, and they take turns attacking him, all the Watts in the world won't save him, but employing good tactics might.
@@mikedittsche How much are you ready to bet on this? Pog from 2024 was not Pog from 2022 or 2023. Pog from 2025 will be even stronger, the UAE will also be stronger and Visma can attack at will, he will destroy them nonetheless.
@@mikedittsche if he wanst perfect than thst is just another thing his opponents should worry considering he made them look like amateurs and not a thing pogacar should worry 😃
@@mikedittsche and also i think kuss is the thing visma was missing 😃
I've come to find race tactics endlessly fascinating, and this channel among the very most informative. A Portlander, we're thinking of showing up in Bend for a beer and a race on the tenth. Ha!
A win is a win,criticism is expected but Pogi was the true champion and winner.
Pogi’s the best no doubt. But if that’s all I got to say then I may as well just let you guys watch Peacock and then I can go to bed early each day. 😂🦋👊🦚
i have TDF withdrawals now totally depressed.
It’s just one of your best analysis of these racers extremely well done Chris could you talk more about the difference and weight between these riders and how it affects them I think it’s a major component of things that people don’t understand. Thank you.
Thanks Chris
Don't forget about Garrett
Great job Chris great job Garrett thanks for all your time and work on the show see you
Tomorrow
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Perfect means 100% A+. Pogacar’s performance this year deserves a 96% - clearly top of the class, but still some areas to improve if you want to be called “perfect.”
I know many commentators would ding Pogacar for not riding defensively once he had a sizable lead, but I strongly disagree with that sentiment. Pogacar is an aggressive racer who is always looking for the next win and is not willing to rest on his laurels. Pogacar dominated this Tour with his style of racing, so I would give him maximum points on that front.
Pogi fitness was certainly A+ 👊🦋💪
Great analysis, Chris. I can appreciate Tadej at the end saying it was perfect, because it really was a perfect outcome for him and his team mates despite some imperfection. Seems that there might be a problem with Ayuso, but other than that the team looked awesome, and Tadej looked genuinely appreciative and proud of them.
I thought Soler rode for his GC guy better than ever.
I'm glad they let him off the collar that one stage;)
Soler is a really good gregario. Always helping the team. I hope he rides Vuelta and wins a stage.
The imperfections make it PERFECT!!!
For all of us at home. So very true. 😂🦋👊🔥🇫🇷
Best race analysis anywhere!
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Hi Chris, Can you make one of those TH-cam donation buttons happen for your bike event fundraiser? Other channels have them and they make it easy to donate various amounts via Google Pay. And if not, no worries, not trying to cause you any hassles, just that I like to cha-ching that way, other than Patreon. 😀
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I will ask Garrett about that. Thanks 🦋👊
“Remco Evenepol.. the Belgian kid.”
Yeah.. we know, Chris 😂
I'm only 5mins in so, I have only just seen the part where you said Pogacar did made mistakes, I'm going to type this the only mistake he made in this 2024 TdF is stage 11 where he attacked way too early, a little eager is Pogi. he is by the most aggressive GC rider we have seen.
How can you forget stage 9. 🤔. Ok, I will give you that stage 4 was a bit complexed and Pogi won that stage which makes it even harder to say that he did something wrong there. But stage 9 you thought he was good tactically or you just forgot about stage 9. 😜🦋👊🇫🇷
@@ChrisHornerCycling I really struggle remembering every particular detail, I'm sure if I go watch the highlights of the stage, i'll remember it. I also had it on TV & was explaining it it a lot this year to my mum.
Stage 9 could have been bad instead of just a waste of energy @@Aka_daka
@@ChrisHornerCycling imagine if he had u giving him instructions and he would rode it perfectly? It has to be like that cause u learn much more with mistakes than with wins 😃 i dont know who said but he said thst he either wins or he learns amd thats how legends are made 😄
Fabulous job!
Your podium pic at the ehd, Chris, makes it look like Remco won a platter with a motocross rider on it. 😀
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Dropping science as always
I didn’t understand why Reno went after TP on that gravel stage
Yes I think that TP did mean perfectly in a holistic sense , that he was the victor by far but thanks for breaking it down Mr Horner, you rock!!!
Love your channel Chris. Amazing and keep up the great work. Would love to see a video on " Why Pogacar should ride in La Vuelta "
Very good analysis as always Chris! Yeah past two years TdF was won with better team and better tactics. This year Pogi took preparations more seriously.And weather was not even close as hot in previous two years.
Your channel is little treasure of cycling tactics. You should be a DS for some team!
Do you have some advices against crashing?
Great video Chris. I'm currently suffering from TDF withdrawl symptoms.
The one stage(11) that Jonas won, I'd like to hear your take on that finale. To me, it looked like Tadej wasn't in the gear he wanted to be. They also showed gear he was using earlier and it just seemed too easy of a gear for the flat terrain. middle of the cassette. When they sprinted head up he was spinning A LOT. maybe he was bonking like you said.
As far as stage 14 and beyond? It is week 3 and he was danged determined to disprove that "he fades in week 3" myth. He faded Jonas AND won stages.
Really respect your expertise, and I've learned a ton about tactics through your channel. How can you tell when it's a calories issue vs just having a bad day? In hindsight it seems like in this year's stage 11 it might have also been a calories issue for Pogs, because clearly he was riding better than Vingegaard and recovering better throughout the tour. But in the moment I couldn't tell if Vingegaard just recovered much better on the prior descent and out-climbed Pogacar, while Johan Bruyneel said in one of their podcasts that day that he felt it was a calories issue.
Pog is so much stronger than everybody else that he can afford making some tactical missteps and still be far ahead of the rest.
Perfect is making your mistakes when it's of little consequence and getting it right when it matters the most....closing the door in stage 19 and 20 was perfect . Winning the time trial ....all the better. But his best move was in the off-season and reevaluating every thing.
Chris, I believe Adam said in an interview that he had was having a bad day, agree on Ayuso before Almeida though
Watched twice, all fair comments from tactical master. These will be used in future for training tactics
Am pogi and bini fan,this year both of them win,am little over the moon (a nice July).jonas is looking un healthy to me this year,I don't know but he looks very thin.They sure entartain us,creadit to all of them.Thanks so much chris for all your caverage,love it very detailed and knowledgeable.
Jonas allways looks like that. Guy's weight is 58kg . Do you know how skinny that is? I know because It was my weight when I was 18years old and I'm 189cm.
I think Jonas dropped Tadej fair and square also on Hautacam climb during TdF 2022. That day, when he waited after Tadej had that small crash during descent from Col de Spandelles.
Pogacar also said in that same interview that he had one bad day at Giro. Care to guess, Chris, which stage was this?
Well, the easy answer is stage 2. Cause he crashed in stage 2. But that’s probably not it. 😂🦋👊
Yeah he didn't have a bad day at all there. In the TdF stage to Lioran, he did.
On Pogi, yeah no one shoots 18 in golf either…
On Jonas, better luck next time…
On The Belgian Kid, Remco…the future looks brighter
On Primoz, reports are that he won’t be racing the Vuelta due to having suffered a lower vertebrae fracture in his last crash at the TDF. At what point does the cumulative damage from all of his crashes diminish the 34 year old’s ability to perform at the highest level?
"Perfectionism is about the fear of failure, while striving for excellence is the urge for success. Excellence is superior performance, persistence, and the commitment to do something exceptionally well. Excellence requires risk, effort, spontaneity, hard work, and extending yourself to reach your full potential."
Pogacar was EXCELLENT.
Where’s this link to donate to the Cascade Cycling Classic? I looked all over for it…
In the description now! I (Garrett the editor) forgot it so thank you for asking
I had to laugh when Bobke said "Gravelstone" after I had heard it here first on the Butterfly Effect after never hearing that term before, so does that mean that he follows the channel? News at 11.
Hehehe. Probably. He has to learn bike racing from some where cause he was never at the front during his career that wouldn’t help him now. And doesn’t even remember that I won the Vuelta while he was calling it live last year. He probably thought he better sharpen his skills up and what better way to do that then to watch Beyond the Coverage. Which Peacock and Bob later even stole my name for their own channel because they watched so much of it. 😂😂😂🦋👊🦚🦚🦚🦚🦚
Like it is! And Lance as an NBC analyst really cracks me up.
Hi Chris, last year TDF didn't Tadej change bikes which wasn't the correct tactic costing him plenty of time plus loss of momentum? Thanks
Yeah that was indeed a very dumb move.
If you win, your tactics were perfect
Hi Chris. In relation to stage 11. I agree attacking too early was a mistake but loosing the stage could have convinced visma that Pogachar isn't that strong so they drilled the next mountain stage serving the win and a big time gain to him. If they ride more conservative maybe Pogachar would gain less at plateau de beille. So summing altogether .. maybe it wasn't a mistake...
Or more likely there were mistakes made on both days, just by different teams.
I would argue the tactical mistake on the stage 16 TT in 23’ was Tadej did the bike change. Lost him 30 seconds
It cost him more than 30sec. He lost hos rhythm completely too. costed him 50seconds if you add that too. It was dumb.
Hey Chris, what happens to the mind and body after 3 weeks of racing? 🙃
Chris I'd like your input on this idea: What if the reason Pogacar was so aggressive all the time in the early days of the Tour this year was because the Tour was backloaded in terms of climbing and he was just trying to put as much CTL on Vingegaard as he could before the mountains, hoping for a 2023-pog-style blow up from him in the 3rd week?
No Pogacar knew that if he stayed up his bike, and not getting sick that he was gonne win this tour. And how he did it was just magnificent.
So what about Hautacam? Vingegaard and Van Aert dropped Pogacar straight out of the wheel. Also w/kg on Marie Blanque by Jonas were 6.9, so very good level
Preperation. He was 6 weeks on hometrainer only and was racing in Flanders. This year he just raced the strade, volta a Catalunya, LBL, Giro and Tour. That's a lot less than previous years as preperation. Exept the Giro then. Without it it would've been 15minutes between him and Jonas.
Chris, which Directors Sportif do you respect and admire in the pro tour today...based on their choices of strategy and tactics and their ability to lead a team of riders that actually work together to execute the plan?
I couldn’t say because I’m not sure who all the DS’ are in the car are all time at each of the races. I could say from the ones that I have worked with personally but it’s to hard to say other than those. 🤔🦋👊
@@ChrisHornerCycling Its interesting that DS's don't seem to get the media attention and scrutiny that coaches and managers in other pro sports get. They don't have to explain themselves and their teams performance to media and fans after the race is over. They kind of lie in the shadow's and their performances as team managers remain largely an enigma. Maybe is different in Europe but that's how it seems from 'across the pond'. Is that a fair assessment?
Nice work on the Tours de France, not Tour de Frances. But actually I've been thinking and I think the French might actually say "he's won 3 Tour de France without any plural on the Tour part. Even Cav gets this wrong I've noticed and he's won 35 stages in the Tours de France he's ridden!! 🙂
Everything after stage 14 was perfect? What about the attack on stage 17 when Pogi himself said he didn't know why he attacked? Also, Jonas was not below 100%. He said himself he was pushing his best numbers ever. It was Pog's level that was so high.
Jonas form dropped on stage 19 for sure while he had to follow Remco on the wheel. Jonas said that to. But we are splitting hairs here. 😂😜🦋👊
If you watched the early season races, Jonas looked even stronger than last year until that crash. Maybe he did indeed put out better W/kg in some climbs than last year, but for one this doesn't say anything about long term conservation of form (stage 19) and we don't know where his numbers could have been if he continued his training schedule without the crash.
@@mikedittsche He said he put out his best performance ever and still was beaten by Pogi that day - the day when all three of the top riders beat a long-standing climbing record remember. He had one slightly off day during the entire TDF and then was able to drag Pogi up the mountain on the very next day. If this was not 100%, then perhaps 99.9% 😂
@@mikedittsche Yes its funny, how last year Pogi's disciples said it was due too his wrist injury he did not wun... And now they say that Vingegaard crash did not have anything to do with Pogi's win.. Vingegaards injuries was a lot more than just a broken wrist, and he lost a lot of muscles beeing in a hospital for 12 days... He could stay in Pogis wheel the first time he attacked.... Then it went downhill from there
@@oakdk4075 most importantly, after breaking your wrist, you can sit on an indoor trainer a day later. You can't with broken ribs and a punctured lung.
Yes. Tadej needs to win 21 2025 Tour de France Stages next year.
Excellent commentary on the Stage 4 tactical error not riding the echelon to maximum advantage. QUESTIONS: Do you think Matxin or Gianetti are good enough race stategists to recognize this? Do you think those guys are as competent as the Visma team on strategy and logistics?
They could be if they watched Chris Horner's videos. 😅
Amazing how many people missed this tactic on stage 4. Even the commentators talked about how good it was for Pogi to be on Jonas’ wheel or even way further back earlier in the climb like Pogi was. Matxin makes up for this miss in other ways though as he’s very good personally with the riders and they all love him. He was my DS twice and I always liked him but many DS’ and riders miss this tactic. 🤔🦋👍
@@ChrisHornerCycling Thx. OF COURSE!! I momentarily completely forgot you were with him at Saunier Duval. 2 more QUESTIONS: (1) How do you think the riff between Ayuso and Pogacar (and most all the other guys too) gets resolved? (2) Any insights you get back on the dynamics with Matxin/Ayuso? (Rumors are Matxin shows serious favoritism to Ayuso and it's led to Ayuso thinking he's "special" and doesn't have to answer the way the others do -- and rumor is the rest of the guys resent that favoritism and that Pogacar has said Ayuso will not ever again be on a Grand Tour roster that he rides -- and that Ayuso's early departure wasn't entirely about Covid).
@@ChrisHornerCycling One last Q ... Have you ever pursued a D.S. position? IMO, you'd be outstanding. No disrespect to others, but we all know there are D.S.es who cannot read a race like you can, who aren't as intelligent, as detail-oriented. You've raced for so many years at the very highest level for so many different teams, teammates, personalities, and you're such a relentlessly positive guy -- if I was team owner, you'd be top of my list. 😄
The bonking is probably the most dangerous. Once the body starts shutting down gels or energy drinks won't immediately kick in. Can lose loads of time. We've all been there...
I always wonder if the top guns like Tadej watch your videos and learn new things :)
Hey Chris, what's with you and Bob Roll??
Hey Chris, Am just waiting your analysis on Biniam Girmay’s Tour Performance and His new contract . Thanks 🙏🏽🇪🇷
I’m trying to use this week to get in as much post TdF talk as I can. I like Bini and especially how he rode here at the TdF 👊🦋👊
@@ChrisHornerCycling Thank you 🙏🏽!
The "problem" for cycling analysts and experts and arm-chair commentators is that strategy and tactics kind of go out the window when you're looking at a rider with seemingly infinite matches, all strengths and no weaknesses, and who's solution to every stage and moment is to just power through and dominate with sheer force.
That doesn't leave much room for analyzing, because you end up simply concluding that the guy wins because he's the fastest on the bike, and that's all there is to it.
On Belgium tv with José De Cauwer (ex cyclist (he's in his 70's) ) and the other guy was really good commentary.
😂😂😂 once Primọz Roglič̣ stops crashing 😅😅😅
UAE needs to up their DS game
_"... once Primoz Roglic stops crashing ..."_ LOL, the guy's never going to stop crashing. He's never going to be disciplined about positioning in the peloton. He's never going to invest the energy he needs to in reading the race ahead of him. And he's never going to invest time in developing better bike handling skills. This year's 2nd crash -- the one that took him out of the race -- is a perfect example. He was poorly positioned (too far back). He was not reading the road ahead of him -- there were 8 guys between him and the initial guy who went down, ALL of whom took evasive action and either avoided the crash or cushioned their falls. And, he took literally no evasive action, while every other rider around him did. He literally just plowed full-speed into the back -- and wound up taking down at least 4 other guys in front of and around him that otherwise wouldn't have gone down, not to mention all the guys behind.
What was Roglic's speed when he crashed into Lutsenko?
Hey, he rides pretty well for a ski jumper.
I can’t argue with you. I have all those very same things. 😱🦋👍
He has a side hustle as a gear tester, going down to test equipment and apparel literally it’s years of this…why wouldn’t he devote more time to handling ..the Belgians do it like first nature they don’t have to think .. I sometimes think Primoz is cerebral or zones out or in his head in some way or worse subconsciously sabotages himself, shame I love this guys and grit ..not everyone has ALL the traits to be a champion..I mean I know he is but this shit just happens way too much ..he is badasss ofcourse I just wish he was in the mix this year and as often as possible
PR is a squirrel, he belongs with the cat fives
Chris you keep saying col du Galibier in 2022 in fact the first climp was Col du Telegraph and Col du Granon respectively in 2022.
On Stage 11 Pogacar was one climb away from disaster. If they had one more climb or if the last climb instead of a uphill kicker was something of 5 km 7% or 8% he would have lost significant time and the blow to his confidence would have been huge. Nonetheless his stages 14, 15, 19, 20 and 21 are among the greatest performances of cycling ever.
Is the resume ready for a Director Sportif posistion? What team would you like, a team with Remco?
The biggest mistake was stage 21. You don't descend with full risk if you already have won, knowing that a small thing can make you hurt terribly andvloose everything. I know it was an almost perfect descend, but he still had to make a correction. You just want to avoid that bad luck that coup at the last moment spoil everything. However brilliantly done, it was very bad tactics!
Bikes are tight!
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If Tadej wins the Vuelta later his year, then he will be more than perfect. He will be the only phenomenal cyclist who has won three grand tours in the same year.
He doesn't ride Vuelta he's going for the World Championship on the road not TT. He said so himself.
Clickbait titles 😅 the only reason he lost the sprint to Jonas was because of poor fuelling. Should’ve been 7 stage wins, how incredible!
Too incredible….
Agreed. 👊🦋
Everyone makes mistakes, it's how you adjust and comeback from those mistakes which makes greatness. The imperfections is what makes Tadej human. Tactical improvements come with age and experience. With as much success as he has had in the past 5-6 years, Tadej is still learning.
Recently TP told in an interview that he had only one bad day at the giro, but didnt want to tell which one..what do you think Vhris? Was it day one??
I agree to some degree those were mistakes but i think uae knew that they couldn’t let jonas have a good first week to build up on for the rest of the race. Jonas already wasn’t 100% and when tadej made jonas claw back gaps on the short mountain stages and gravel stages it took ultimately took more of a toll on jonas than tadej. I do think these would of been big mistakes had visma as a team remained healthy throughout the tour.
Roglic had some fracture in his lower back. Do you think he will do the Vuelta?
Yes
A major factor in Pog's loss to Jonas at the Combloux ITT last year was his lack of recon, compared to the latter. This year the situation was reversed.
Yeah, I agree. This year the last couple of stages were practically in Pogacars backyard. This is where Urska and Tadej ride all the time.
No Jonas did just do more Watt pr kilo than Pog's.... What i dont like, that Pogi does not look like he is doing an effort at all
@@oakdk4075All cyclists make different faces. On some you would think they're dying and on some you can't see a thing.
The biggest mistake of UAE on this TDF: They did not let Solerism to shine 😅😢
After stage 11 I honestly thought he was gonna lose the tour again.
Pog races in the grand style, mistakes to the analyst but beautiful for the spectator
TP and the rest of UAE became perfect when they dropped anchor on ayuso. He was cancer that metastasized through the whole team.
Ok, you are just parroting mou
I just heard an interesting statistic that Pogacar has never DNF a race he has entered. That's pretty incredible in itself.
🤔 pretty sure he was a DNF at LBL last year, when he crashed and broke his wrist… however he probably has finished every stage race he has started… 🤷
He’s finished every stage race that he has ever entered. That is including racing as a junior.
Since 2018 I found only six one day races that were DNF. All stage races he finished since then. That’s impressive. 💪🦋👊
Chris you are apologizing for all the times Jonas has dropped Pogacar in the hills. You’re call them mistakes, they’re not. Eating, tactics, strength and power are all part of the race. All of them have to come together for one to win a race or a grand tour.
When you don’t forget to eat and you’re dropped, you’re dropped simple and plain because you’ve ignored a crucial ingredient of the race.
It would be boring to watch it it was totally perfect.
Tadej interview saying it was perfect was deflect tactic
It appeared to me that Vingegard looked almost anorexic at this year's tour. He didn't look well at all.
I think hes body just was not ready but he tried to force it with his willpower.
Yep. Jonas is super thin. 🤔🦋
He did incredibly well, regardless. The guy's a stud!
It is easy to be a general after a battle. Tadej said it was perfect for him and it was. After two wasted years,it was perfect. And by that he meant preparations,food etc….6 minutes lead and 6 wins. Chris dont be like Lance,please.
No vacation???
Nope. That’s what the winter is for. ☃️🦋👊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🧸
will Roglic stop crashing? 😭
Will the sun rise in the west some day?
With everyone at 100% I still believe Tadej is a level higher than all those guys. So no in that case tactics would not make the difference
Even Pogi said tactics did during 2021 and 2022 T’sdF in his interview after the TT this year. And that he couldn’t recover from those mistakes he made. I did say that in this video. 🤔🦋👊
If just two of the other 3 riders will be even close to his form, they can easily beat him by alternating attacks IF he rides like a knucklehead and attacks too early, leaving his team behind.
@@ChrisHornerCyclingTadej also is a much better version of himself compared to 2021 and 2022. You’d have to say this version of Pogi is basically unbeatable
No doubt that it wasn't perfect. Also I think not allowing his team mates the chance to take a stage here & there is also a mistake.
Surely the guys who work so hard for you must be given a chance when the GC is already in the bag.
To be fair. Pogi did give Soler a chance on stage 20. Adam a bit of a chance depending on who’s story of the team tactics you believe (Pogi’s or Adam). Last year Adam did get stage one. It’s very hard to help a teammate win until the time gap gets way up there. Keep in mind that UAE riders are all probably well paid, which does help with the sting of not winning much. 😜 🤔🦋👊💵
@@ChrisHornerCycling Soler possibly, Yates I doubt it. Yes they are well paid but they are still competetive riders who would like the chance to win a stage.
Visma allowed WVA to go for a win here & there, Kuss was allowed to go up the road & win a stage. I'm sure Pogi had the form to allow his hard working domestique to go up the road also. But I respect your opinion on the matter.
@@ChrisHornerCyclingagreed the team was being paid to support Tadej. The last thing you want as a team is to hold your Yellow Jersey back in any form whatsoever as that is WY they were working so hard in the first place to give Tadej ever possible second. Just found your channel Chris...excellent work too.
How did he get so much stronger in the last week?
Moto man
I believe it was intimate knowledge of the roads there. This is his home turf. He said in the interview that on the stage where he caught Jorgensen on the last km, he was looking back because he feared Jorgensen coming back and he was fading. So knowing the last 4 stages so well, knowing every bump there, he could allocate his power perfectly.
I heard that Ayuso won't go to the Vuelta and its a punishment for his attitude
Chris, please stop insisting that Jonas V. attacked Sepp Kuss at last year's Vuelta. It was actually Roglic. Jonas initially aimed to win the Vuelta, but when it became clear that Sepp Kuss had a chance, he let Sepp take the lead.
You are completely wrong. Jonas lit it up on stage 13 and 16. Jonas was to blame for attack Sepp 100%. Now delete this comment before your friends see it and laugh at you. I will for give you and forget but your friends never will. 😜🦋
@@ChrisHornerCycling Absolutely, Jonas lit it up on stages 13 and 16. At that point, there was no certainty that Sepp Kuss could win the Grand Tour against Ayuso, for example. So, what should Visma do to ensure that one of their riders definitely wins the Vuelta?
Of course, Jonas has to attack and ensure that someone from Visma wins (if not Sepp, then himself or Primož). He is the best rider in the world at this point and as the captain, he is supposed to win. Once it became clear that someone from Visma would definitely win the Vuelta, they could then decide to give the victory to Sepp. Jonas was definitely capable of winning last year's Vuelta if he hadn't decided to leave it to Sepp. In my opinion, people simply don't understand this story, unfortunately including yourself. But thanks for your answer. I appreciate your content (except for this part) very much.
Ayuso’ quit successfully reunited UAE team, also put damage on Visma😂 I bet Ayuso someday gona be karma for UAE, if they do nothing about his behavior.
I'd like to see a race without time bonuses and no radios. Let's see a real race where the race teams have to figure it out. Now, you just listen to what your team director tells you what to do.
I hated having no radios. It’s impossible to know the time of the break (yes the moto board is there but very few can see that during the race) and the riders in it. But I did race w/o radios for a very long time. 🤔🦋👍
I think you're just nitpicking. Consider the context. Last stage, he wins it, he wins the tour. Of course he says it's perfect. He avoided major problems, won big, had his team mostly behind him. It would be sad seeing the rider talking how he could be better, or worse, how his team could be better. It's obviously not the moment to be analytical. Take it in, say it's perfect, show some gratitude, some humility. Taking the word out of context is simply milking for content, and as much as I love Chris and his work, this isn't even valuable content. 0 new information.
Hate to be cynical but I’ve been a TDF fan for too long to watch stuff like this without a raised eyebrow. Pogi’s biggest mistake was being *too* good. As in, unbelievably good. And as we’ve seen over and over again, too good to be true in cycling is almost always too good to be true. (And don’t come at me with this advanced training, nutrition and bike tech BS). I’ll wait for the inevitable Oprah interview. Or who ever her equivalent is in Slovenia. The one thing he might have going for him is there probably isn’t some complete psycho like Travis Tygart in Slovenia.
Don’t think you can make mistakes when you running NOS …. Tadaj didn’t even break a sweat on this tour all while winning 6 stages and breaking records 😂😂Lmao
Nice call Chris. Hay do you run into JD or John Downing in your neck of the woods. Another endurance athlete Olympic cross country skiing. One of my home skillets, besides Soler!