How Time Trials Are RUINING Professional Cycling

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  • How Time Trials Are RUINING Professional Cycling
    Time trials have been a part of professional cycling for over a century now, and while it isn’t known when they first appeared, 1922 sort of stands as the year when time trialing was invented. But over the years, the discipline has evolved tremendously, and it’s no longer what it used to be. Nowadays, the face-in-forearms positions can be seen causing horrible crashes, and it’s all been due to the modern racing mindset. The riders will simply always do what makes them faster, no matter the cost. But have cycling’s time trials gotten faster than the safety regulations that are in place? And do we really have a time trial safety problem?
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  • @DaemonGeek
    @DaemonGeek 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    The problems outlined here points out the problem which cannot be solved: athletes will do whatever it takes to win, even at the cost of personal safety. You cannot "process out" the dangerous elements of sport without completely neutering the competition itself. Honestly, the only way to make TT's completely safe would be to make the event completely virtual, which would ruin the sport. This is also why PED's have been banned; if they were allowed, the athletes and teams would be pushing the envelope beyond what is safe and reasonable in order to win.

    • @francisdayon
      @francisdayon 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      This comment exactly paints the nature of PED use on the pro peloton right now. The guidelines are there so that athletes don’t overdo it but basically everybody still does it. the fact that we’re not seeing cyclist dying left and right shows that it’s actually somewhat working.

    • @finndegraaf2707
      @finndegraaf2707 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Time trials don’t necessarily have to be dangerous. By making the riders use normal road bikes for time trials you would basically solve all of the visibility problems.

  • @VincentKirby-f6o
    @VincentKirby-f6o 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Aerobars are up higher then pictured. Sight line is much improved over the last several years

  • @DanielMooreDJ
    @DanielMooreDJ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    People have become too soft in terms of safety. There is danger in all sports. May the TT's continue and get even faster!

  • @srennielsen8235
    @srennielsen8235 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Next up: Sprints and descent

    • @roadcyclist1
      @roadcyclist1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Next up: riding a bike!

    • @matthillard9363
      @matthillard9363 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No shit, sick of people watering down professional sports. TTT should be in every grand tour

    • @davidspagnolo4870
      @davidspagnolo4870 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Two wheeled vehicles are inherently unstable. Need to add training wheels too.

  • @roflrolf1782
    @roflrolf1782 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you place a mirror somewhere to see front while looking down?

  • @Michael00000001
    @Michael00000001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All good! Crashes in TT are really rare and most often it's some slippery corners or riders leaving too late the middle position. Saying so not sure if TdF TT down the Corniche in Nice is a good idea. It all depends how close the gaps in the GC are by then.

  • @gerhardw.933
    @gerhardw.933 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think you summed it up in the end 'Elite cyclists have to figure out the right balance between safety and speed on their own. Regardless of what the UCI decides there will always be a challenge in time trials when being aerodynamic is everything that truly matters.' As an amateur, I dislike aero bars in a real-world environment on public roads,
    - One of my friends had a serious accident on them in a corner
    - Chris Froome has made the case for banning time trial bikes in professional racing, suggesting using road bikes would be safer and fairer.

  • @out_spocken
    @out_spocken 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's not the responsibility of race organisers to make the course safe for riders that don't want to look up. WTF is going on here. In an idea world I'd love it if all Grand Tours made it mandatory to use the same bike and setup. You can change cassettes and chainrings but that's it. In the spirit of the Grand Tours. One person, one bike. It's bad enough we have race radios, shorter routes, teams, and everything else.
    But to safety, it's the organisers job to ensure the route is safe from obstacles and rides know where they need to go. THat's it. If you need race lines marked out or painted arrows to tell you where to turn because you aren't bloody looking up, then you either don't deserve to be a pro cyclist or deserve to crash.
    Part of being a pro is having the ability and skill to do the job. Race lines and markings on the road are for beginners in online games that can't work it out for themselves. Not to mention they have computers that can show where the turns are if they wanted to set them up given they are looking down at them presently.
    Just ludicrous.
    I mean, may as well suggest they all have motors to make it easier for them.
    If you want to actually make cycling safer....remove all crowds from the sides of the roads and get rid of support and media cars...because the bulk of bad incidents have come from there.

  • @AS-hv2ux
    @AS-hv2ux 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I remember right, the bars where called Scott bars. They were named by the guy who either invented them or got them manufactured first. Come to think about it, it seems like there were two different manufacturers around 1989 or 1990 when I was a license amateur. I like the Merckx rule in theory. No TT bike for Time Trials. Your bike must pass road bike standards. Allow rear disc wheels without the forearm type bars and call it good!

  • @nikolaizetrov617
    @nikolaizetrov617 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Put a small camera into the helmet and display the camera feed to the eye wear.

  • @mohamedaminesomrani-tb5rb
    @mohamedaminesomrani-tb5rb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for all your videos

  • @infovidasupps8640
    @infovidasupps8640 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So the new positions are causing really bad crashes and yet you don’t show a single video of what you say is happening complete bullshit

    • @GaiusPrimusMatius
      @GaiusPrimusMatius 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      U can change the Chanel cry baby😂😂😂😂

  • @boxedlunchmuncher
    @boxedlunchmuncher 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ngl wouldnt it just be easier to integrate into the helmets some glasses that allow you to see forward while fully aero seems to me a super simple solution for a couple gram of added weight

  • @GaiusPrimusMatius
    @GaiusPrimusMatius 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ....
    In Slovenia, we have a technological hall that is intended only for tt racing and where engineers and competitors test positions, materials and all the necessary things for the competitors to achieve the best results, last time we had cyclists from the united states of America visiting and they will borrow our way of working... at the Joseph Stephan Institute in Ljubljana, they developed a new tricarbonium oxalate material, which is the lightest material so far, but it must be approved by the European Institute for Development in Antwerpen..

  • @Robeuten
    @Robeuten 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The worst injuries to professional cyclists occur: 1) during training - here, quite often due to TT riding position 2) mass sprints. So, modifying the UCI rules will not help much in improving professional's safety...

  • @bvveiga
    @bvveiga 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem with Kung was the narrow fences with pods that should be banned of cycling as they aren't being used on arrival sectors.

  • @Jan-se1nd
    @Jan-se1nd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm now so provoked and hate your click-bate headlines so much that I've begun to ask TH-cam not top recommend your channel. Take from that what you will. I'm off.

  • @Gary-le7dz
    @Gary-le7dz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Top riders salary’s are a lot higher , interest higher but agree flat time trials are not great ….

  • @diegoeleazar9154
    @diegoeleazar9154 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Either helmet or eyewear companies need to invent HUD display.

  • @9thelastone6
    @9thelastone6 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So how are time trials ruining professional cycling?

  • @rainier939
    @rainier939 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can't controle the fact that people choose not to see for some extra gains. Even if you get them on normal roadbikes it will happen. Rider safety during a tt is mostly in the riders hands

  • @87togabito
    @87togabito 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This dude: Time trial courses are dangerous
    Sam hill: laughs in red bull rampage

  • @matthewnormand2041
    @matthewnormand2041 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought this would be more about cost and barriers to entry than safety. I'd like to see more road bike TTs like in the Tour Down Under. However, I think they do that more for logistical concerns than safety.

  • @terrywilkinson2885
    @terrywilkinson2885 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't think TT racing is the issue. As has been mentioned, the riders are the issue. They put themselves in these positions that compromise their vision. The TT scene is very popular in the UK. And the level/standard is very different. The top end have some very dubious positions in some cases. However, some riders are still sensible. Even pro riders will have the ability to say something if they feel like their position is unsafe. It is just careless stupidity that is stopping it.

  • @bb3lo
    @bb3lo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m quite sure this was written by a generative AI or LLM.

  • @honza1859
    @honza1859 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I suggest "timetrial" of the length of regular stage eg 150km, then we would see real shape of each individual, really fair race. But such a timetrial can decide stage races so maybe that's the reason the lenght of timetrials is not so high. And also that will eliminate strong teams so the strongest teams will be, I am afraid, against it.

  • @yeyeTF2
    @yeyeTF2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    these are AI generated right?

  • @davidlard8490
    @davidlard8490 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't agree at all to TT being a problem. There should be more team TT that shows how good a team is.

  • @RuffRides
    @RuffRides 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Contrary to what this suggests I think even pro-riders racing are inclined to want to look at where they are heading, even from a head-in-hand position. Course design looked as much to blame as anything with that Jung crash and I think course design and mashalling is as important as rule changes.

  • @michaelratcliff8634
    @michaelratcliff8634 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wasn't Bernal on a TT bike when he had that devasting crash?

    • @gourami7
      @gourami7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes he crashed into a bus

  • @hakonksnes8686
    @hakonksnes8686 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this is bullshit, tt should stay as it is

  • @kevinderung8524
    @kevinderung8524 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    certainly there is a way to implement a "periscope" view into TT helmets using small cameras on the top of the helmet (similar to rear view in cars) and video screens the rider can view while looking down or actually in the inside of their face shield

    • @TheFlowZoneX
      @TheFlowZoneX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My thoughts precisely

  • @ArnyRimmer
    @ArnyRimmer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But this is not just a matter of time trial. This air resistance also manifests itself in races with a mass start. There, too, it makes sense for a person to have a bent head. Cycling in general is terribly unhealthy from this point of view. Man, in contrast to the quadrupedal animal, has his head adapted to lean forward when standing. On the bike, we de facto return to the animal position on all fours, but in it our gaze is no longer directed forward.
    I can quite imagine that one day cycling will end precisely because of its unnaturalness for the human body.

  • @clenilsonsilas2456
    @clenilsonsilas2456 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just crying

  • @TheFlowZoneX
    @TheFlowZoneX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cameras in helmets.. With screens in visors?

  • @NicholasDMarshall
    @NicholasDMarshall 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    crazy idea... eliminate the TT bikes altogether. All athletes must ride their normal road bikes.

  • @gregtitus2467
    @gregtitus2467 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Use conventional bikes and standard kit for TTs, the same way you're riding in the peloton. It'll be a level playing field for everyone and cut out all this BS over aero technology, etc. Modern TTs in the grand tours not only looks ridiculous, it's just a bunch of crap. Lose it! Make it the Merckx category for all of it.

  • @glywnniswells9480
    @glywnniswells9480 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nothing is more dangerous than the bunches TT risk is up to you the rider

    • @davidspagnolo4870
      @davidspagnolo4870 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Flying down a mountain at 100+ kph in a peloton of 100 riders is way more dangerous than any TT.

  • @greghart6310
    @greghart6310 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TT shouldnt be a part of stage races. Id way rather see riders battle it out in a crit than watch (a really boring) TT with individuals hurting themselves on completely alien machines that have virtually zero relation to road race bikes. Lets leave that to the trackstars and tri athletes

  • @jamessher6956
    @jamessher6956 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Easy to fix, they should be required to use the same bike for every stage.

    • @gourami7
      @gourami7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would be pretty boring
      There's a risk of crashing any time you get on any bike regardless of type

  • @PizzaPokerPsych
    @PizzaPokerPsych 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TT bikes suck and are terrible for the sport. The solution is an obvious one that I've advocated for years. The bikes used for TTs should conform to the same rules as those used for mass start races. The manufacturers would hate this - it would now be so much harder to convince weekend racers they need moar bikez - but it would improve the sporting and safety aspects of the sport. Further still, for those of us old enough to remember, the tiny modifications riders would make to road bikes for TTs before the advent of the monstrosities they are forced to use now were actually an interesting and subtle part of the sport.

  • @njm3211
    @njm3211 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Use ordinary road bikes with aero helmets and skin suits. Safer and a lot less expensive.

  • @navca
    @navca 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You sais it at the end. Run TT in conventional bikes. Ban the aero helmet. Furthermore... be allowed to have just one model of bike per rider (or even team) with measured and fixed bike fit. That would relate more to real world cycling. Find the best compromise for flat, climbs and TT for a grand tour. That would also help a lot smaller teams that don't have the cash or staff to support 5 bikes per rider.
    And yes... I know brands wouldn't like it

  • @13opacus
    @13opacus 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Get rid of TT bikes in grand tours, their rubbish bikes anyway!

  • @mickelkobeck7376
    @mickelkobeck7376 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    I consider myself a TT rider. Here in America, some organizations are starting to add the "Merckx" class to many races. You MUST use a regular road bike, NO aero bars, NO deep dish wheels sets.

    • @jeffreymace6357
      @jeffreymace6357 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      The UK also adopted a category just for road bikes last season. It means that people are able to compete in TT's without having too spend a fortune on fancy bikes and kit

    • @Konzuug
      @Konzuug 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Good for the sport since more people can compete

    • @ChiTownBrownie89
      @ChiTownBrownie89 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the reason for that is because not many people have TT bikes.

    • @mikew466
      @mikew466 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Sadly, the higher categories rarely are allowed in Merckx class. It is usually reserved for Cat 4/5 riders. I think maybe it is time to end time trial bikes and go back to road bikes for TT's.

    • @mickelkobeck7376
      @mickelkobeck7376 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mikew466 Not a thing in Tennessee or Georgia where I race.

  • @johnhardwicke7285
    @johnhardwicke7285 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Racing and cycling in general are inherently dangerous. I have lost 5 acquaintances over 50 years all while recreational riding. I saw a death last year in pro cycling and Remco's fall from the bridge and many other horrifying wrecks over the years. But, to my knowledge, time trials are the safest if bad wrecks and fatalities are the measure. Kung's wreck was the fault of the course safety personnel in their failure to properly mark a course narrowing situation. Can't see with your head down? Duh! What's new? I hit a parked car 40 years ago looking down for a mystery bike noise. Professional TT's do not have parked cars on course or cars coming from side roads or pot holes etc.. I see way more issues with promoters who can't or won't force a rain or severe weather delay. TT's are "Ruining" professional cycling? I hope that's click bait for the "race of truth" deserves it's place in racing! Amen

    • @squatchy69
      @squatchy69 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea. Well no one holds a gun to our head and forces us to ride

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Course marshals didn't do anything wrong. Those barriers weren't hidden, they were right in front of him and everyone but him saw them

    • @johnhardwicke7285
      @johnhardwicke7285 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Having been a state champion in the time trial 6 times, I can tell you that we all take intermitten snap shots of what is coming. We all look down as much as is possibly safe.When you say "right in front of him" that is correct. Should have been paint on road or other visible warnings at a distance long BEFORE THE BARRIER was "right in front of him". Course marshalls are not course designers. If 100 see the barrier and 1 does not, that means it was safe? Rarely in TT history has anyone in history hit a barrier that was not on a sharp turn. Perhaps you can list a few? @@veganpotterthevegan

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@johnhardwicke7285 I can't list any that match this crash. That said, riders have definitely died in switchbacks multiple times. Should we ban downhills with turns?

    • @johnhardwicke7285
      @johnhardwicke7285 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Name one rider who died in a switchback@@veganpotterthevegan

  • @morrisizing
    @morrisizing 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    More crashes with bunch sprints and more risk of serious crashes with Mountain Stages with a downhill run to the finish. While the biggest risk is when training with some drivers behaviours.

    • @dorydiavelone3531
      @dorydiavelone3531 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How about we start thinking about safety!!

    • @morrisizing
      @morrisizing 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @dorydiavelone3531 things like barrier types and better placements of finishes on sprint stages to minimise dangerous road furniture would be a good start without changing the actual racing formats such as dropping TT's which are a core part of finding the strongest riders.

    • @Michael00000001
      @Michael00000001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@morrisizingcouldn't agree more. TT is the least risk. Only issue I see that poorer teams have a technology and research disadvantage.

  • @HudoHudHudec
    @HudoHudHudec 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Safety, safety, safety... the biggest bullshit that UCI "promotes". There are never any proper researches done on the matter. do we know how many pro-cyclists crased with super tuck position? No we don't, but they banned it anyway.
    TTs' are awesome. TT bikes are awesome. It is a special part of road cycling. Of course riders will do anything to go faster, but so do they in downhill skiing but we still have Wengen and Kuetzbuhl downhill where the 5 of skiers that get hurt every year is much greater to the % of riders riding TT.
    Make roads and courses safer (I am looking at you UCI) and not impose some stupid rules on bikes and positions, that have nothing to do with safety. Or at least present a valible research on why there needs to be new mesurements and new rules, not just some ideas from the top of their heads.

  • @littleworld2910
    @littleworld2910 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    tbh this take is almost laughable. we are talking about the sport of racing ... it is inherently dangerous and includes pushing physics to the limit. . at the end of the day stefan finished the tt. visually it looks a lot worse than it is. helmets are designed to break and absorb the impact force. how many people have died during a descent? racing any sort of vehicle (cycling, moto gp, gt, f1) is going to be inherently dangerous. should we ban descents greater than 6% because they are dangerous? bunch sprints are surely more dangerous .

    • @SecwetGwiwer
      @SecwetGwiwer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thing is, the “inherent dangers”can be managed to reduce risk. Let’s not pretend that there’s nothing that can be done. We also have to decide what we consider acceptable and unacceptable risk. It’s hard to argue that not being able to see where you’re going is an acceptable risk.

    • @littleworld2910
      @littleworld2910 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@SecwetGwiwer not being able to see where you are going is a bit exaggerated. how common are crashes in tt vs a regular stage race? a death on a descent is more acceptable than a concussion in a tt? lmao. no one is forcing you to look down at your forearms to get in the most aero position, just like no one is making you go 60 mph down a descent, you are free to use your breaks as you feel necessary. not ever rider is a demon descender, each rider must know their limits. should we max descents out at 4% gradients because some riders might push too hard on the descent? when it comes to safety, there is a much better argument against mountain stages with fast descents, but that would sound kind of ridiculous to go against wouldnt it? im not saying we should not try to mitigate risks, but i think they emphasis should be on equipment such as advancing helmet technology, better and safer barriers. if you are going to cry about safety in cyclng, i dont think time trials are the place to start the battle

    • @davidspagnolo4870
      @davidspagnolo4870 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@SecwetGwiwerit's hard to argue that blasting down a winding mountain road at 120kph with 200 of your best mates in stretchy pajamas is ever an acceptable risk either. At least in the TT, the risks that you take are your own. In a mountain descent, you could be killed due to someone else's mistake.

    • @SecwetGwiwer
      @SecwetGwiwer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@littleworld2910 actually, some of the riders really can’t see where they are going, looking up occasionally to make sure they’re still on the right course. I’m not suggesting banning descents, that’s a strawman argument, I’m suggesting that there are speed incentives to not being able to see where you’re going and that it’s easily rectified without affecting the sport in any way. A simple reduction in the incline of the aero bars would reduce the risks.

    • @littleworld2910
      @littleworld2910 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SecwetGwiwer how is that a strawman argument? are we not talking about rider safety "we have to consider what we consider acceptable and unacceptable". those are your words and according to your logic, the risk of a concussion and some stitches is more unacceptable than death by descent? the point i am making is tt's are probably one of the safer events in cycling. stefan kung finished his tt, and his crash was easily avoidable with the current rules and regulations. kung was the only person to crash into those barriers during the eu tt championships. how many crashes have there been in time trials because of visibility issues. not very many at all. again, it is easy to push your narrative because of the blood visuals associated with kungs crash, but the reasoning is not rational. kung took a risk and he paid the price. if riders were consistently crashing in tts because of this issue, i could maybe understand, but that is not the case. these types of crashes rarely happen at all. just a very soft take for the sport of racing in my opinion.

  • @larrylem3582
    @larrylem3582 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Why not show video clips of the things you're talking about (Obree arms under body, Obree Superman position)?

    • @GaiusPrimusMatius
      @GaiusPrimusMatius 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Changed the video ...this one is not for u cry baby😂😂😂

  • @chrissermoon4156
    @chrissermoon4156 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Very, very misleading title. The video is not about how TT is ruining cycling, but about that modern TT is too dangerous. Has nothing to do with each other. Having said that, of course safety has to matter.

  • @scottbecker4474
    @scottbecker4474 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What is going on with this script? It makes comments about events that it hasn’t spoken about yet. Feels like we are going in circles. Is this written by AI?

  • @jean-pierredecouvreur9500
    @jean-pierredecouvreur9500 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This vidoe is nonsense. Kung was responsible for his own crash and nothing to do with the aero position. If riders can't even lift their heads for for their own perceived safety, that's on them personally, as the same conditions exist for each and every rider on the same course. If if only one or two riders crash, out of all who races that day, who's fault is it. How come this issue isn't talked about in the World of triathlon, where the position originated. The comment about the speeds while cornering is also silly, depending on the corner, most riders getting up on their handlebars and out of the tuck. The major problem really is how each particular time trial course is designed, the danger being the course and not the position. There are far more (and more dengerous) crashes in the peloton, where the speeds can be even higher, the riders bunched and courses very tight and windy...are there calls for changes/modifications to equipment for bunch riding also?

  • @ruiteixeira1594
    @ruiteixeira1594 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How losers creating youtube channels are ruining cycling

  • @TheLongRanger
    @TheLongRanger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    01:33 "However the UCI banned Obree's invention in 1994" - that was a weird edit, as you didn't introduce Obree or his invention.

  • @doubik2
    @doubik2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really don't think I agree with this video. I even question whether or not TT'ing actually has a higher rate of incidence than road races. Look at all the crashes that happen during the road races!? Should we get rid of those, too? Silly.

  • @matthillard9363
    @matthillard9363 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    TTT should be mandatory at all grand tours. When have we seen a boring ttt?

  • @gur262
    @gur262 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wonder what a double mirror construction encased in aerodynamic glass could do for vision.

  • @fizzybubbelech
    @fizzybubbelech 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    every video starting with a fellow latvian on a bike gets an instant like lol.
    p.s. gets a like nevertheless

  • @Raven5763
    @Raven5763 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    If they have a safety problem due to time trial speeds, use standard tour bikes and helmets.

  • @luisrosano3510
    @luisrosano3510 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No they aren't. Khun is an isolate case.

  • @orlandoridgwell8772
    @orlandoridgwell8772 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What in the hell is this ai generated voice

  • @9thelastone6
    @9thelastone6 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is this video AI generated?

  • @jerrychicken967
    @jerrychicken967 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This has always been a problem for TTs. Even on our club Opens, I'd try to knock on doors to ask residents if they could move their parked cars as we got a TT coming through and the riders ride with their heads between their legs and will likely plough in to their car. They then go and move the car. Cyclists take too many chances even on Club TTs.

    • @buddhaboy-
      @buddhaboy- 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Spin to win -True that… been flat backed with head down with arms tucked in since my 1st 10 mile tt, as a junior in 1983😉 this problem is non existent- like saying skiing downhill in a tuck is just way too dangerous- i won more than a dozen tt’s as a junior and adult, many with tri bars and such… and never even came close to crashing 😂… no finish no win… notice- not everyone is crashing… what about natural light at dusky twilight ala tdf ttt? Now thats hazardous! 🧡😇✌️

    • @jerrychicken967
      @jerrychicken967 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We had an incident where we had a TT on a dual carriageway. a Mate of mine got clipped with a car mirror and that broke his shoulder. Ambulance came to pick him up and the TT was still going on. Alas a rider rode in to back of the ambulance and was proper messed up, a la Bernal. Saying that, I messed by face up by playing with my HRM on my normal road bike and went through the back of VW Golf. A car had parked where there's never a car parked, round the corner of my house. Arrr... silly me @@buddhaboy-

  • @djsaintb
    @djsaintb 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    who provides the voicing for this video? Is it an actor? or from text-to-voice software? While great sounding, the voice sounds so universal (heard everywhere... on everything)

    • @djsaintb
      @djsaintb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RobertTarmac thank you very much. Big fan!

  • @Ken_Adams80
    @Ken_Adams80 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bullshit headline

  • @Avianthro
    @Avianthro 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Should they stop using TT-specialized bikes? Yes. Should TTs no longer be part of the cycling world? Absolutely NOT. They are the only way to actually assess who's the best individual rider. There should be more, at least three, of them in all the grand tours, and in a balanced mixture of routes with mountainous ones and flat ones. Without them, a grand tour is much more of a team contest than an individual one, and one wonders whether it even makes sense to declare an individual winner.

  • @SergioCristancho
    @SergioCristancho 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Click bait!

  • @cibo23
    @cibo23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Excuse me? What do you expect if you hit separators on side? Do you think result would be any different if peloton hit the separators on the side? I guess the answer is no, so tt bikes are as same as regular road bikes.

  • @atakdd
    @atakdd 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If the front-end cockpit rules weren't so garbage, safety wouldn't be such a problem. The rules regarding bar lengths and bar/pad angles are so limiting in terms of comfort and visibility I don't understand how people can be surprised safety is such a problem. They need to de-regulate the heck out of the cockpit rules, the more flexibility we get in adjustment easier we can address vision + aerodynamics together.

  • @akg5306
    @akg5306 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mean you’re responsible for where you go. If you don’t pick your eyes up enough to see and crash that’s on you. You can’t regulate out recklessness or stupidity and it shouldn’t be at the expense of a great element of the sport.

  • @ChiTownBrownie89
    @ChiTownBrownie89 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Their line of sight is blocked and they are looking down" so that sounds like a rider problem not a UCI thing.

  • @proximityroars5149
    @proximityroars5149 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Controversial opinion. But I do love time trial. It’s due to the high tech bikes that I love seeing. I also compete in more solo sports, so time trial is a way for me to cycle in my favourite way

  • @amacichiro
    @amacichiro 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How about growing a pair of balls? -MotoGP

  • @Creedy1337
    @Creedy1337 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I would love to see time trials in basic form with standard bikes and helmets. You reduce the risk and the outcome will be the same - the fastest rider wins. And also it wouldn't look so ridiculous.

    • @larryt.atcycleitalia5786
      @larryt.atcycleitalia5786 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's really simple - just say NO to chrono bikes! Who needs these things? How many of 'em are sold? The same guys win in chrono stages at races where they're not allowed so what's the point? They also need to crack down on this "bra-stuffing" baloney while they're at it. In the start house the officials should be yanking the stuffing out of the front of Remco's skinsuit...what is that for other than to provide an unfair aero advantage? Same with those "chin fairings"! Nothing wrong with "the race of truth" it just needs more truth and less useless "tech".

  • @bee_whisper
    @bee_whisper 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know in local TT in the UK roundabouts you have to corner on the handlebars and not the skis on the front I think the concussion rule for cycling should be in place as kuss it was not safe for him to carry on with a smashed helmet

  • @mb10kx
    @mb10kx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Many here say ban the TT bike and ride on a normal road bike would solve this issue. However adopting the most aero position on a normal road bike also requires a looking down at the front wheel and not at the road ahead. Also it is much more uncomfortable than using aerobars.

  • @saisamsuri
    @saisamsuri 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just ban aero bars altogether. Do people realise what "innovations" have done to the bicycle? Bicycles used to be beautiful.

  • @bobbysilver272
    @bobbysilver272 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This click-bait headline is disgustingly inaccurate.

  • @alexmiles5238
    @alexmiles5238 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If speed is the problem make the time trials longer. The only reason why riders are able to push 55-60 km/h is because time trials are always between 10 and 15km. Making them longer will introduce better pacing slowing the riders down.

  • @g_y.rtz420
    @g_y.rtz420 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ROAD MARKINGS ARE THE LEAST THEY COULD DO AND IMPLEMENT EASILY AND IMMEDIATELY

  • @AlexF-n1p
    @AlexF-n1p 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about banning radio communications to force the rider to look ahead. You can communicate by megyphone like once did it in good old times to tell your rider the splits. And moreover, if the rider is not looking ahead, he can not complain about crashing into a barrier. It was Küng´s fault and nobody elses. The rules of time trial bike could be simplified very much. But safety is in riders hands more than anywhere else.

  • @fritsgerms3565
    @fritsgerms3565 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nonsense. Triathletes cycle 180km on roads much worse than the ones used for major cycling events. The current elites push above 45kmh. The problem is how hard the cyclists push themselves. A triathlete knows there is still a run ahead, while a cyclist wants to empty the tank. Racers should stop pushing past seeing stars.

  • @McBeatha
    @McBeatha 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TTs have ruined cycling by determining the outcome of grand tours. Not because of safety. Think back to how miserably boring last years Giro was decided by a single hill climb TT at the end. What a snooze fest 😴

  • @janemf
    @janemf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i love that it’s our fault as triathletes that cycling is suffering. it’s totally on brand for triathlon, we find ways to make everything worse.

  • @happy_megawarrior_
    @happy_megawarrior_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    .

  • @drewd9985
    @drewd9985 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This video was poorly produced. Stock footage overlayed with the wrong segment topics. Positions talked about not being shown. Voice-over segments placed in the wrong place. A mix of fact and disinformation. If you're looking at this video for education and don't have enough cycling knowledge to differentiate between fact and disinformation then you should not watch this video
    Stefan Kung's crash at the European championships was not due to the position he had to take as a taller rider. He just looked down for aero advantage in a strong head wind, looking at the white line on the road edge for direction, and failed to pay attention to the road ahead where the barriers were cutting across to stop riders going down the wrong side of a central divide as the riders went to turn right onto a different road leading to the finish. This was not a tall-person position being dangerous problem and was nearly entirely his fault as he would have pre-ridden the course at least once beforehand and 100% known about this situation. Also, short riders, from Ritchie Porte to Remco Evenepoel, do exactly the same head looking down thing for aero gains. In fact, short riders invented this position as they have to work harder on aerodynamics to compensate for their aero and power deficiencies compared to taller riders. It is absolutely not a tall person problem.
    When talking about Lemond's win over Fignon, they finished by saying, "However, the UCI banned O'Bree's innovation in 1994." This was not the item being discussed and the topic of O'Bree had not yet been introduced. Very sloppy voice-over editing.
    When talking about O'Bree's position innovations, not one concurrent image showed his "praying mantis" position and even showed Boardman in a conventional position at the Olympics before O'Bree had even become a factor in world cycling. Then, when talking about his "superman" position, which was adopted by hour-record-breaking riders like Rominger and Boardman, not a single image of that position was shown.
    When talking about the positions that taller riders are forced to take, the problem used to be far bigger for shorter riders who had problems with saddle length and saddle tip set-back from a vertical plumb-line from the bottom bracket. Shorter riders were heavily handicapped from the best aero positions due to these restrictions.
    The video only got around to talking about the head-down, sight-restricted position in the last part when that should have been the lead discussion.
    I've got to stop clicking on videos when I see the creator is "Watts". Their videos are mostly a waste of time.

  • @Technotranceism
    @Technotranceism 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If there was some way, to display a forward visual while they're looking down, it could help prevent some of the danger, but not all danger.

    • @m.talley1660
      @m.talley1660 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A language of symbolic markings on the ground. With warnings for turns and obstacles could be a start. Don't road running courses have an ideal line to follow at world class marathons?

  • @JosesAmazingWorlds
    @JosesAmazingWorlds 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds like when the Schlecks complained that having stages finishing on a downhill was unsafe. Cycling cannot be 100% safe

  • @scroobiussvenson7679
    @scroobiussvenson7679 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always good to try to improve safety. However, Kung complaining that the UCI should address the issue of a lack of sight due to the position is a bit weird since he kept on riding with a broken helmet and a bloody broken face. How that was possible, is the first issue the UCI should address.

  • @davidspagnolo4870
    @davidspagnolo4870 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why does no one ask this about mountain descents? Has any top level pro ever died in a TT? Most of these fatalities happen on fast downhills riding alongside other cyclists.

  • @joneinarmattiasvisser6113
    @joneinarmattiasvisser6113 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One option I see as good one is markings on the road, as to where the turn begins and also mark the edge of the road with say yellow lines. Like this people can see the turns even with their head down

  • @JeffreyHoeper
    @JeffreyHoeper 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why not allow them to use an electronic display so that they can "see" the road ahead -- perhaps on the visor of the helmet -- while still in the most aero position?

    • @gourami7
      @gourami7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That would be far too much common sense for the UCI with all their sizing rules and bans

  • @SuchBigglesworthy
    @SuchBigglesworthy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Time trial up hills. This reduces speed and the importance of aerodynamics, both good for safety. Fans seem to have loved the recent mountain time trials but they could be on gentler slopes, too.

    • @patrickschulze3787
      @patrickschulze3787 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      great. then you can say goodbye to the likes of Ganna, Küng, Bissegger, etc.

    • @SuchBigglesworthy
      @SuchBigglesworthy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@patrickschulze3787 Nothing can ever diminish Ganna's hour record, which is honestly far more impressive than winning a TT at any grand tour

    • @patrickschulze3787
      @patrickschulze3787 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SuchBigglesworthy what about worlds and olympics... did Dumoulin and Dennis look happy to you when they got silver and bronze in Tokyo? or Küng when he got 2 at worlds 2022, or Ganna in 2023. If they weren't important races, especially for tt specialists, they wouldn't care...the only one who I saw happy was Tarling getting third, but being the youngest to participate and the youngest ever podium finisher at the world tt, it only makes sense. They are impressive feats and to transform these into pure uphill battles, would mean that the tt specialists would not exist anymore.

  • @out_spocken
    @out_spocken 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about we just make TT's on perfectly straight roads. Ironman style. Up and down on a straight road. Remove all risk completely and not actually expect riders to develop the skills they need to keep up with the speeds they are doing. If they can't...ride frikkin slower. It's not anyone's job but your own to ride to the conditions. Should we also stop TT's happening in the rain too? because you know...risks.

  • @luc4662
    @luc4662 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Recumbent bikes should be allowed for TT. More aero, and you can see. UCI has way too much regulation.

  • @mattia9680
    @mattia9680 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TT became motorsport. They should ban tt bikes

  • @MrSlartybartfast42
    @MrSlartybartfast42 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The UCI has to do something. I think there should be a rule that makes the riders look up at where they are going. Ok on straight wide roads (with no road furniture) looking down all the time probably isn't too dangerous (unless someone lets a dog loose). However on more technical courses I think looking down for extended periods isn't a good idea from a safety point of view. Personally I think TTs should be ridden using normal road bikes ie no tri-bars and no disk wheels. That would be the quickest and easiest way to level the playing field.

  • @johndef5075
    @johndef5075 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just hate the goofy tt bikes. I actually wouldnt mind a time trial on their normal bikes.

    • @davidspagnolo4870
      @davidspagnolo4870 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I like the TT bikes. They're where physical performance and engineering optimization meet to create speed. There's nothing to me that's more impressive than a solo cyclist ripping down the road at 60kph. It's a spectacle and that's what sports is about.