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Some of my thoughts on the published case:
1. The rate at which the patient declined is shocking. As written, it doesnt seem like he drank much of the water, but we’ll never really know.
2. There’s quite a bit of medical literature published in languages other than English about BA and 3NP, from areas where partially fermented food products are a cultural tradition. Always interesting to see locoregional differences in health and medicine.
3. This case was published from Denmark. Another case was published in Norway the year after, and they were able to do more analysis J Appl Toxicol. 2022 May;42(5):818-829. Also linked in description. Would be interested to see if this is an underreported toxicity, because not all have the outcome had here, as indicated in other reports.
4. Thanks Michal W for recommending this case to me
life isn't safe
Great video!
@@eighty8lives832how you know you aint watch it yet
@@eighty8lives832 you havent watched it yet
bro just posted it
The fact that a dude who drank a whole lava lamp could survive, but a dude who accidentally drank a little bit of rotten coconut water dies is wild
Bruh spoilers 😔
Spoilers 😂
Spoiler...
@@cheemsburmger6289 Don't read comments before watching the video?
I live in Kerala, we have too many coconut trees here. As long as you don't remove the husk and/or don't poke holes in it, the coconut shouldn't get rotten. Oh and trust me, I've smelled rotten coconut water and you'll never forget the smell.
“Made a full recovery” 🥳
“Made a recovery” 🙂
“Made a decision whether to continue treatment” 😭
"Autopsy revealed..."
Autopsy revealed 😭
"Autopsy revealed" 💀
Made a full autopsy. 💢
new fear unlocked
When I was like 7 I begged my parents to let me try drinking from a coconut like they do in movies. It was the same sort of deal as this. I took one small sip and immediately threw up before I even swallowed. It was sooooo foul. My parents thought I just didn’t like it so they got mad. Then try also tried it and immediately threw it out. I feel pretty lucky now.
This one is heartbreaking. A rule my mom always taught me when it came to food safety was "when in doubt, throw it out."
Same
Literal best advice. Just don't risk it if anything is out of the norm. Even the faintest weird smell.
You can get a "fresh" piece of fruit from the store, and it can be completely molded on the inside.
My dad tells me that dates are a scam to get you to buy more
I work at a butcher shop and my boss literally sells meat that smells gassy or cheesey.. tells us to rinse it under water and let it sit so the sulfer smell goes away, can't tell you how many customers I've served who probably got the worst food poisoning of their life
@@Shredddddy🤢 meat is the worst. I'd hate to work in a butchers anyway (more like I never would!) perhaps you should whistle blow? I'm sure you would know as people would be coming in saying they'd been really poorly
I think the worst part is that he DID take a sip, thought "this is bad", spat it out, rinsed his mouth, and tossed out the coconut...but it was already too late. Sure, he could have cracked it open or checked if this particular type of coconut needed to be refrigerated, but it's not a mistake worth dying for. A lot of the cases in the past few months on this channel have had the patient recover, so my heart started sinking when you said his pupils weren't responding to light. I was like, oh no, he's not gonna make it. Poor guy.
He should have probably purged it out
It is not sure if that really happened, as it does not appear in the literature how much the individual actually ingested.
There's people who took a big gulp of their drinks like a habit. So he probably was that type. I suspect that he first took a big gulp, swallowed then took another gulp and then realised it had gone bad.
@@ms.chuisin7727 Good thing i don't do this. Probably. I mean i almost always smell/visual/taste test something before eating it, especially if i'm unsure of how long it's been sitting around outside/in the fridge/etc. Doesn't help when you have parents who throw away every packaging because of covid. People should always taste first, and if they didn't think to before, this video certainly is a good wake up call to do it.
@@Dice-Z You can't really smells the drink if it's in container like this especially if you used a straw. You should always have a taste first especially if it's soy, dairy or coconut milk products. It goes bad really easily.
“At autopsy” just hits hard. I hope his wife can at least make _a_ recovery from such a tragedy.
You mean the same wife that left out that month old coconut? Yes sure.
@@mulan7015 are you insinuating that she did this on purpose?
@@imconfused6955 I mean ya can't exclude the fact that she might have..
@@FrostySparks yes I will leave this coconut on the table for a month and count on the low chance that some obscure fungus few people know about will kill him in 24 hours
@@mulan7015 Yeah I mean the dude probably wasn't even her husband. It's not like he lived there and could have entered the kitchen and used his own brain to throw it away.
Holy shit, healthy one minute and dead a few hours later from a small drink of coconut water. That's so scary
few days
@@StressballLOUIS he died on the same day
As someone who worked in an all-organic produce department of a mom and pop grocery, those shaved coconuts mold SO EASILY and the only indicator we could use (without opening the product, making it unsellable) was when mold had already worked through the fibrous walls to reach the outside.
Wow that's kinda scary...
Good to know.
This is one of the craziest ones. He didn’t do anything that wild, this is something I’m sure we could all see one of our family members doing accidentally. Absolutely terrifying.
He drank from a month-old green coconut. If one of my family members did that I’d be seriously disturbed. 🥥 🦠
@@ADSHYN Not likely. This guy was just extremely unlucky.
@@felixmoore6781 not likely to grieve what? Are you just a psychopath or what?
@@g.h.7661 bro I’ve drinkin definitely over a month old water and I’ve smoked months old weed for sure just cause you’re the smartest person ever remembering when everything was left out and exactly how old it is doesn’t mean everyone is the same way some people barely even go home every month
@Bah humbug there is no age limit on weed I've smoked weed from places I'm sure has been there for years just really dry and crusty but won't kill u
This is probably the most terrifying story you’ve shared, I feel so bad for everyone involved. Its awful how fast he went from being completely fine to dead and having an autopsy. All from just swallowing a tiny bit of the coconut water
> All from just having the coconut water touch his mouth
No, the problem was he did swallow some.
He ingested a toxin that has a similar molecular diagram to a few known nerve agents so not to surprising he's dead
@@conelatilot wonder what would have happened if he immediately induced vomiting
@@johnr797 That MIGHT have just done the trick, it would have certainly reduced the chance of this happening, however that is only speculation.
@johnr797 Depending on how well it transfers Into the mucous membranes he was already dead the minute it touched his lips. I'd honestly say that this transfer and absorption into the body is probably more likely than he swallowed a tiny bit.
I do admire your textbook style presentation technique. "First, tell them what you're going to tell them. Then tell them. And then, tell them AGAIN". In slightly different wordings every time. As a lecturer myself, I can listen to you for days on end.
I do love your style !
My mom once drank coconut water from a can it wasn’t passed its expiration date but she did say it tasted funny. I’ve never seen my mom so sick she was violently ill for 5 hours. We ended up taking her to urgent care as she hadn’t taken in any fluids and was having a hard time thinking straight. She was fine 3 days later but had a rough 12 hours after she initially drank the coconut water. Medical team guessed that the can was not transported in a refrigerated truck and got too warm
People wonder why I always smell something before I eat or drink it....
@@ryanjacobson2508 Not anymore! I'm planning to do a lot more sniffing of things I'm considering drinking. So I guess other people can wonder about me...
I have no idea what coconut water should taste like, so I wouldn't know if it was meant to smell and taste a certain way if not.
Good to know this can happen! I'll remember to not drink coconut water for the first time unless someone who knows this stuff can tell me if it smells/tastes okay!
@@jimbailey3705human have already millions years developed sensory function to detect those thing. Any rotten food smells bad and tastes terrible.
I hope the medical team contacted the FDA. There should have been a recall or some sort of action taken.
A case where the patient wasn't stupid, just made a mistake to not cut open and check a one month old coconut, before drinking.
He spit most of it out. Was able to call 911 himself early enough.
His wife identified the source of toxin early on.
And in the end he still doesn't make it... man I feel really bad for this case, he seemed to make an honest mistake and everything else was done right in order for doctors to do their best in saving the patient's life.
Leaving any chilled product out of the fridge for 'A month' is just asking for trouble. 2hrs is ok. 6 is risky. Anything more makes it super risky.
@@Ztormrageheero I imagine maybe he didn't realize it was supposed to be refrigerated?
@@Ztormrageheero its like when I googled if spaghetti that was left out was safe to eat. I learned that day that it isn't the sauce I should be scared of, its the noodles. I was so surprised considering we keep uncooked noodles on the shelf for months but they can go bad in a few hours once cooked
@@celerispaghetti7495 Yeah, I always make sure to refrigerate leftover cooked noodles right away now. I knew they had to be refrigerated, but didn't know just how toxic they could become in a short amount of time.
nah he was stupid . he didnt even smell it . just straight up slurp it lol
It’s undoubtedly the most tragic story you’ve told yet. The fact that even just a tiny ingestion of the rotten coconut water was enough to do this to a person. This is genuinely very frightening.
Careful what you eat kids.
Yea, pretty much. Many of the other cases were out of pure stupidity while this one was more of an honest mistake. I say this because even though the coconut was left a long time like that and you obviously shouldn't trust it, 1) he isn't from a place where coconuts are a common thing to know everything about its demands to stay fresh and whatnot, 2) a coconut generally lasts a long time, 3) it was seemingly good on the outside and 4) illnesses from plant based food sources, even those that have gone bad, are pretty rare - even less so from just taking a sip. Like.. I've watched a yt video of someone devouring a piece of bread full of mold (it was all green) for the sake of 20$ and nothing happened to him really
@@rossobrink8097 Mold can do damage with time, because the toxics can stay in the body and some people are more resistent than other
@@lovelydream743 yeah, but you have to agree, even if someone gets colon cancer or something years after eating moldy food, that's not as bad as what happened here
@@wernerbeinhart2320 jup I agree, a very small and deadly mistake
he actually called the emergency room himself. what a legend
well his wife was not going to apparently
The wife was just watching like, "🤔🧐🤷♀️"
Considering the very tiny amount he accidently swallowed tells us how deadly this is. Poor man, I'm so sorry😢
Crazy how fast it killed him. He seemed like he drank the water and in a matter of hours he descended into an irrecoverable state.
tis what toxins do
I think a lot of it was because the doctors had NO idea what was going on, they didnt know at first about the coconut, by the time they did they had done all kinds of tests looking for something without a clue as to WHAT, and when they learned about the coconut it was too late.
@@HobbyOrganist Plus that particular toxin is very rare in our part of the world.
And a reminder that medical science can't always save you from bad choices.
Emergency rooms are slow and "stick to procedure". A fungal toxin is about a few rungs down from more common causes.
This case was absolutely scary and sad. He made a human mistake and didn't even consumed a considerate amount of dangerous substance. How unfortunate.
Thank you Chubbyemu for your wonderful work! Educational and fascinating as always ♡
In other cases where some would literally ingest the weirdest non-edible stuff like bleach, or medicines in excess like Benadryl, they will make at least 'a recovery' in the end. :/
One thing I learned at college is that Fungus, specifically their toxins are always the scariest.
I mean, it's no wonder the first antibiotic was from a Fungus.
It should raise the alarm if you see some fresh fruit at the counter for a month.
Definitely. Most of the time the people in these cases are ignorant or stupid, but this one could reasonably happen to any of us. I know I've drank spoiled things and not realized until swallowing a mouthful before.
Yes, the coconut shouldn't have been left out, but it's possible we could drink from one that's been left out and not realize until after a good swig.
Right?? I really thought he was going to have a bad case of food poisoning. 😔
Did he make some kind of recovery?
"Autopsy showed-"
Oh.
This is why I don't get people who just don't mind eating suspicious food, like it doesn't matter. If I have even the smallest doubt about a piece of food, it goes in the trash
Damn. Can't imagine my significant other dying from one sip of coconut water. My heart goes out to his wife.
IU was watching funus chocolate whiel watching this :I
Also he woke up that day not knowing it would be his last.
true but I'm still bewildered by how someone could even for a second think that a one MONTH old coconut is okay to consume??
@@arsena5209 I don't think this deserves a Darwin award. A month ain't that much taking about long lasting products
@@KingAGBozz considering the coconot shouldve been refrigerated, leaving it out in room temperature for a MONTH is a long time, im surprised they werent able to tell it was bad from the outside
That is horrific, I'm 8w pregnant at the moment and I've noticed that I interpret a lot more smells as rotten. My husband will think it smells fine but I'll be convinced its rancid, really does make me wonder if morning sickness is a protetive mechanism
Always listen to your gut instinct and senses . Your body knows what's best for you !!!
Yes, morning sickness is protective and is linked to lower rates of problems like miscarriage
Same !!
It is a protective mechanism since your body and unborn kids body is in a fragile state
Congratulations! Listen to your intuition! I knew before eating Subway that I shouldn't, looked it up and saw the no cold lunch meat suggestion, clearly there are work arounds. Same thing happened with black licorice. Trust anything in yourself telling you not to eat something, limit intake, or to heat thoroughly for safety first.
I've worked in produce and I've found these shaved coconuts with a straw out of date by a month although they've been refrigerated the entire time. They're not very popular so they tend to sit there until someone checks the expiration date.
as a South Indian where the coconut trees serves us in hundreds of ways and are part of our daily life... i can't believe that a coconut can harm someone like that 😢 it's very sad
It wasn't the coconut. It was the poison created by molds who harmed the poor guy.
Rotten month old molded coconut did it
On the bright side, at least you learned the easy way!
One month old though. We make coconut juice all the time in the Philippines, it doesn't even last 30 minutes.
@@bassyey > it doesn't even last 30 minutes.
As in it goes BAD in 30 minutes? Or it's sold OUT in 30 minutes?
I did NOT expect this poor fellow to die, we’ve heard so many strange cases that seem far more severe and the patient miraculously survived. Thoughts go out to this mama family and friends. Thanks for the always interesting and educational content.
Im afraid that a lot of those miraculous severe cases could have a different ending than what actually happened, because that would make them more youtube friendly.
A lot of these cases are when people ingest stuff that doesn't contain a lot of living things, which makes me think that those are usually less lethal. They eat far too many vitamins, they drink snow globe "water", they drink too much caffeine, ingest some sketchy workout stuff, then there's the pain relief lotion one.
@@pumkin610 Yeah it’s living things that complicates things, there’s so many different possibilities, whereas in other situations there’s a straight forward outcome that medical experts can expect to happen
We’re only atoms, get over it
SpOiLeRS
What a tragic case.
Most of the cases here that are even more absurd still have "a" recovery or at least a full one, yet this poor man lost his life because of a simple mistake.
May his soul rest in peace.
My condolences for the family.
I don't think drinking a month old coconut is a simple mistake.. I mean a week old apple isn't good at all, how much is a water filled fruit like a coconut
@@mikhailbolodo1597 A week old apple is absolutely fine unless it’s left out in a hot climate and some coconuts can last months at room temperature. It was the kind of coconut and how it was prepared that made a difference. It was a VERY easy mistake to make.
@@mikhailbolodo1597 are you aware that most apples you eat can stay fresh for several month (with proper type of apple and waxing, but still). Coconut, if unshaved and without a pre-made hole can last way more than month at room temperature.
anyone here remember the video where he said 'xy did not make a recovery'? i remember hearing it once
@@thamemeez5702 Yeah the farmer that cut out a suspicious mole.
There is a case exactly the same happening in the hospital my mother works in a week ago. It is shocking that even the doctor knew that the patient had the exact same thing happened to her in this case, no one knew what was going on and there was absolutely no one doing anything correct to save the girl (not even a lumbar puncture despite the fact that. the patient was confused), even when the patient told the doctors she drank some coconut water. The patient perished simply to the ignorance of the medical staff.
So sad!
ignorance of medical staff? How could they help? There's no cure.
I'm a new subscriber, and i have to say that i REALLY love these videos. At first, i was laughing at your intense narration, but I've gotten used to it and i find it to be so engaging. It builds tension in the story. And the way you weave in basic instruction on the roots of the various medical terms is just brilliant. Thank you for doing this. I've already told several friends to start watching.
Also, the way you frame the diagnostic processes for these various symptoms is fascinating. It kinda makes me wish i stuck with my initial premed university program.
I've never sent anyone some money, but i figure it's time. Fantastic work
Thank you!!
@@chubbyemu what would be best treatment for this case?
@@kylestoute8705 idk probably antibiotics
Oh ok
@@planerdude88- not for a reaction caused by a fungus
When I was a kid, my parents would occasionally let me get a regular coconut from the grocery store. One time I poked a hole into it, and drank the water. It tasted kind of sour, but I drank it anyways. When I was done, I cracked it open to find that the inside was full of black, furry looking mold. It looked a lot like the bad coconuts from Moana. After watching this, I feel pretty lucky.
Ew
Great to hear this ?
A random story when I was a kid, we went to visit some family members in mexico, we were at the beach and my uncle gave me a random coconut that looked different than the green ones we’ve been eating (he found it in his car, rotting in the hottest weather ever). Basically it tasted bad and a few hours later I got hella sick with extreme fevers, but after this video… I feel lucky too
Go buy a lottery ticket, because you’re either luckier than a rabbit or have somebody watching over you.
Lol just got done watching Moana
That's scary. Who hasn't, at some point in their life, taken a bite or a swallow of some kind of spoiled food, and immediately spit it out? Most of us manage to survive, with, at worst, a bout of vomiting and diarrhea, but for this guy, it was a fatal mistake.
Cases like this are very rare, but do happen.
Once I ate a day old chicken sandwich that was in the boot of my car in summer time. After lunch I started falling asleep but got up to go back to work. No chance I heaved like someone threw a bucket of water. I drove home sick spewing at every intersection about 20 times. I took a sleeping tablet and in the morning I survived. Never again!!!
Makes me wonder how tf I survived eating spoiled eggs, fruits and heavily contaminated water. I guess food consumption is just a dead roulette.
This guy drank something that was left out for a month.. it was supposed to be refrigerated that whole time.. this is an extreme case
@@strangemanmtd8350 why would you even do that... Once
The scariest part of this is it could’ve happened to anyone. We’ve all been in a situation like that- you try a food/drink you think is fine to find it’s gone bad and spit it out.
it happened to me with with months old natural juice, worst taste I ever experienced. But nothing happend to me, i didn't even feel sick.
Doc, you've really helped me over the years take good care of my personal food safety. Thanks!
Man, how does a student accidentally eating leftover pasta and this guy accidentally ingesting a fraction of spoilt coconut water both die, but all the other morons who all either had major oversight, huge neglect or just plain stupid ideas, still make full recoveries instead? Life is so unfair.
I thought college leftover guy survives, just had his feet amputated? (Which still sucks but is better than dying)
@@ameliarose47 nah he died. Assuming it's the pasta reheat guy from 2008.
don't mess with moldy food bro
Whenever, as a child, I played out the whole "that's not fair" game, my Grandma, who was a nurse, flight nurse for the airforce in Korea, and had worked in infant units, etc, would simply just tell me that life isn’t fair and go on with life. Damn, i’ll never forget that whenever unfair things are happening to me.
I've been binge watching this channel and there seems to be a common theme where people poisoned by man made chemicals like lava lamps or overdoses of ibuprofen recover while those who ingest or come in contact with rare hard to detect parasites or bacteria in nature or food don't make it .
I have to say, your videos have really made me more careful with my food handling. I passed on a slice of pizza that had been out for a while (not sure how long, some number of hours) because I thought to myself, while holding it, “I don’t want to end up on a ChubbyEmu video.”
I really love your videos. Probably my favorite channel, and I’m not exaggerating. If you ever get the time, I’d love some more Heme review episodes.
I’ve always been one to chance it, somehow it has never made me sick. Then again, I’ve been that way for years and you could say that my immune system is used to it by now.
@@Sniperboy5551 It works untill you contract something other than regular food poison like the guy in the video.
@@Sniperboy5551 Immune system? Nah dude, you've survived out of pure statistical luck. Every time you chance it is just rolling the dice again.
For years I would leave pizza or other foods in the oven for a couple of days and eat on it. Never refrigerated it and somehow never even got a stomachache. I got really lucky - and now I put that crap in the fridge right when I'm done eating.
@@MdnightWnd I've heard of a lot of people that used to do that... I did it once as a kid and it did not end well. Puked for hours and cried from the stomach cramps while slumped over the toilet.
My heart dropped so hard, it left a dent in the floor when I heard the words "At Autopsy-"
new band name: Suspicious Coconut Water
This is one of the most tragic cases you've covered yet. Tragic and shocking how quickly things went south here. As always thank you for covering these cases with such grace and respect while keeping it entertaining enough to digest.
I only know this one video where the person actually made zero recovery 😢. They usually at least make A recovery 😨
@@nameunknown007 There's at least one other he's done. It's is where a farmer cut out a suspicious mole.
the infection was so strong. From healthy to dead. Interesting case and interesting fungi. RIP A.C condolences to wife:(
Oh my! A toxin I've never heard of in my 20 years of intensive care nursing. So bizarre and so sad.
After working as an ER nurse for almost 2 years, I can safely say Chubbyemu gave a more thorough report of the patient than EMS did that day.
Don't be a snob. Emts have other stuff to worry about. That's why you're a nurse. Figure it out and don't complain about your job.
@@JangToki I’m sorry, did I complain or make a joking statement? EMS is notoriously as bad as ER nurses at giving report, it’s a running joke in the community. Maybe get off your high horse and learn to take a joke 🤷♀️
As a person from a tropical country, knowing other countries refrigerate shaved coconut is bonkers to me. You always drink that right after its shaved. The outer layering protects it from external elements
Thanks for the tip
It's because it has a premade-hole. I was surprised they exist when I first saw them a few months ago.
Edit: Oh, and also, shaving a coconut can introduce tiny invisible cracks where bacteria can get in. So yes, drink it right after shaving.
This type of product (selling pre-shaved coconuts hours or days after) should be fucking illegal.
Is because Northamericans will make an extra process for everything to make more money, we are talking about people who consistently wrap up Bananas in plastic, witch is wild.
Exactly! Fresh is the name of the game. This shaved and partially opened coconut sat on the counter for a month! Makes no sense why you would drink that!
This channel is actually probably good for public safety. It teaches people to make sure that the food they are eating is safe. A bit of caution can make a difference.
ik its been good for MY safety cause now i am very suspicious of leftovers and i warn my friends not to exercise too hard
@@blizzard_the_seal9863 yeah. I now always make sure to check the expiration dates and take a smell test before I eat anything I'm not sure about
wow who’d’a thunk
@@flamethefurry3516 yeah and having a deeper understanding of safe fermentation in general is necessary though. Botulism toxin has no taste or smell
@@blizzard_the_seal9863 no pain no gain, cmon youre not gonna gain anything by watching too much anime, too hard
That’s a shame the man passed away. I never eat or drink anything suspicious. I have a weak stomach for rotten anything so no way it’s going down anyhow. RIP guy.
That does it. If i want coconut, I'll eat a Mounds bar.
Food quality is one of the things where we strictly follow the rule "when in doubt, throw it out." It's a heckuva lot cheaper to just go buy more food than it is to end up in the hospital in a case like the one described in this video.
If you worry about "wasting food", just compost them or something lol
All due respect to this guy, but who drinks/eats food that has not been refrigerated in 30 days
I read a story on Reddit where this woman explained she accidentally made herself dangerously ill because she liked to leave hamburgers on her desk and nibble on them over the course of a couple days. Some people just don't have common sense.
@@shinjite06 oh my gosh, ugh that’s so gross
@@shinjite06 over an hour or so, sure, but DAYS?!
Thank you for covering a story like this. I worked in food service, directly with food, for a decade and a half, and it's always astonishing to me how little knowledge and/or regard most people have for food safety. Family and friends have always called me neurotic because I practice FIFO and dating on my food at home, and I consider them to be far too trusting of their own kitchen. I've noticed when dealing with food in their own house, most people don't look at expiration dates, they put new boxes of food in front of old boxes in the cabinet, and they "smell test" food to see if it's good. I've witnessed too many times in my life when a multi-person household purchases a product regularly, everyone assumes what's on the shelf is new and/or to date, or that clearly someone else bought it recently so it's good to eat, or why else would it be in the kitchen still? Surely someone would have thrown it out if it was bad, right?
As you've told us time and time again, food poisoning really isn't anything to mess with, so a little extra care doesn't seem obsessive to me.
I have contamination-OCD, and this was an interesting (and concerning) read, since I'm not sure how most other people handle food.
Nah bud you are just neurotic from being tunnel vision on all those rules they drill into people who serve food (for obvious reasons, I understand why it's done so in the industry). When it comes to home however, throwing something that looks, smells, and tastes perfectly just because of some arbitrary date is just outrageous food wasting. The most out of date food item I have consumed was an 8 month out of date mayo. Was perfectly fine, I was also perfectly fine, ate the whole jar myself since my mom was not feeling like eating it. I have also eaten beef that's about to go over, simply wash it with water and slice thicker and cook the exterior a little more so I can still have my medium rare. If anything I find it tastes better at that point. The one time that has stuck with me in the past year was with milk kefir. It smelled fine, it tasted fine, but it was a week or so out of date and already opened prior. I got some moderate food poisoning from that that hit me like a freight train with a fever about 14 hours after initial consumption. Was still able to work through it though since I only eat twice a day most days. Yet even after that unpleasant experience, I still follow what I said initially, especially with beef. It might be because I'm from Europe and our beef is not as hormone and antibiotic full so the bacteria are not as resistant.
At the end of the day it's just like covid, some people put their lives on hold due to fear and neuroticism but ended up ill regardless whilst others lived their best life and didn't get more than a sniffle.
smell and taste has worked fine for millennia since our species evolved, only modern stupidity has over ridden basic survival. If smell taste and sight show any signs it goes tot he compost, this story is beyond the pale though, this was natural selection in waiting, I slaughter and cut my own meat, usually it involves card board a hack saw and machete, and 22lr riffle, course salt.
@@valentine8161 It's unfair to accuse food service workers of being neurotic about handling food in the home. We're trained to track food that is being handled and prepared by multiple people across shifts. At home we do relax the process a bit because you know when you pulled your roast to thaw at home and there's no way you're going to grab something you don't know how long it's been left out to thaw. At work we leave the package under a drizzle of water because it causes people to notice it and poke it frequently, and it reminds the person who pulled it to mention to the next shift the details of that package. This is food that will be moving through a system that needs to maintain temperature control but the same person isn't following it through the course. At home we live with people who aren't aware or don't care that leaving a freshly opened can on the counter for hours until it's finally discovered and returned to the fridge is now in serious doubt as to its safety. But a food service worker will habitually look at a clock when opening something or at least be generally aware of the hour, and if finding they've accidentally left it out will have an idea of for how long and be able to judge what to do with it next, be it throw it out or heat it through and refrigerate it. It's not neurotic and we don't toss food just because its due date demands it. We often deal with food that's just a little past due dates at work and in certain cases can make a judgement on use or toss, but it depends greatly on where that food is going to be until it's served. If it's going to be served immediately, no problems, but if its going to sit on ice on a line all day and possibly get wrapped and refrigerated at closing, it's best to toss it because employees don't taste it before serving and would have no way of knowing the quality when selling it to a customer, so we stick to due dates pretty good at work. At home, we know where it comes from and where it's going, we can taste test and can relax those rules. At work when our shift ends it goes into someone else's hands that doesn't know or won't remember the food is pushing expiry. Use immediately or toss. And there's the added concern that customers might not consume the food immediately but carry it with them unrefrigerated for hours, or bring it home and refrigerate it for another day. Our prep has to provide a product that can handle a little mishandling after sale for safety sake.
I live with a family member with dementia who will forget to put things in the fridge and go to bed, then throw it back in the fridge later the next day, sometimes not until evening. And if questioned will become offended and upset and can't tell me when it was left out. I've had to become hyper-aware and check the kitchen over frequently for forgotten items. I do have to clean the fridge out often and mark dates on containers because it is a very handy way track food freshness and prevent an illness she might not be able to survive. God gives us our skills and gifts and puts us where He wants us to care for each other.
@@valentine8161 while it's true that food can last way longer than what it says on the label (my dad works in the food industry in a huge ass factory and he has confirmed this, specially in this time where most of the food has preservatives and that stuff) i don't think i can blame people for being scared o getting themselves or others sick due to food that has gone bad. not all foods have the same durability so the way you keep them can make them go bad faster. like in this video, the dude thought it was just a rotten coconut and probably nothing more, if he had checked the inside maybe he would have not died, which is sad but yeah, his death was preventable. i do agree with you that some people just waste food that is still good to eat and that bothers me too. if it smells bad then probably it's are bad so that's okay, but if we do a little bit of research some food can and will last longer if you keep them refrigerated and well kept, so it's not necessary to throw them away because of the date on the label! (i apologize for my english, it's not my first language lol)
So detailed, so informative, so concise. Fantastic presentation, thanks!
Hope you're well, Dr. Bernard.
This made me sad. Reminds me of a news story where a toddler had a tiny bite of lettuce from a salad and ended up with an e-coli infection that caused severe brain damage. Scary how you can eat or drink a drop of something and it can ruin your life.
That is also why food safety is taken seriously in the food service industry.
I used to think Gordon Ramsey was a bit exaggerating when he yelled at owners "People can die eating this"... And close the restaurant if he found horrible things in the kitchen ( in the Kitchen Nightmares show)
People really should take it seriously at home as well.
@@AaronShenghao he did see a customer being sent to the hospital for eating a stinky stale lobster in one of the episodes
I haven't been able to eat commercially grown sprouts since a horrifying e coli outbreak in Germany, people died because they ate a small salad at a restaurant.
I had an e-coli infection from kimchi last year. It was hell.
I don’t get why people generally don’t cook lettuce
food safety and sanitation should be a mandatory part of grade school curriculum. my family growing up was always very bad about this and I (after working in kitchens for a decade and realizing how bad it actually was) have no idea how I survived as long as I have.
Same. Big big facts.
Yeah, my mom and grandma both have a tendency to let things sit out for hours, just to eventually put them into containers and use them as leftovers. I’ve never been sick because of it, but I must have an incredibly immune system after so many years of improperly stored food 😂
You are absolutely right. It’s alarming that there seems to be so many people who don’t even know the basics (hot/cold hold temps, meat/poultry cooking temps, proper cleaning/disinfection/sanitation, eliminating cross-contamination, and personal hygiene in the kitchen). So important!! Thankfully, I’ve never had food borne illness from anything I’ve cooked at home, but I’ve had it twice from restaurants, and that’s the main reason I don’t eat out at all anymore.
Where I live now, there's a habit between my grandma and uncle where they leave food out for many hours. Sometimes they just put some plastic wrap over a plate and set it in the microwave. I've mentioned it being a bad idea and they give me the same "we've done it for years, never had any problems" speel. Most of the time, if I didn't prepare and put the food away, I don't have any. I'm very untrusting of food that has been sat out at room temperature for too long. I've seen them keep food in the microwave for 24+ hours and they eat it. No wonder my uncle doesn't feel so great most of the time...
@@ravent2631 Food that is fully cooked, salted, and relatively dry can be left out at room temperature for longer than you might think. But if it's missing any of these 3 properties, it can go bad much more quickly.
Reddit made me come here.
Poor guy that drank moldy coconut water today...
I once attempted to drink from a coconut I had sitting in the kitchen for a month or two. I shook it around and it sounded like it had a great yield so I poured it into a cup, took a sip, and dumped it all out. Easily one of the most bitter things I have ever tasted. I opened it up and it was all mushy inside. Idk if there were any side effects but if there were, it sure wasn’t as bad as this.
If your coconut is still have outer layered intact, I am sure it's relatively safe if you accidentally drink some of it, because sometimes I also accidentally drank some rotten coconut water when I was a kid, you know how kids behave with their curiosity lol
These cases have been great for my learning concepts as a new ICU nurse.
But usually, people just generally come in for normal things, not usually lava lamps or wild things.
Yeah same here 😅 stuff like alcohol or drug abuse is quite normal, sometimes even medication abuse but none of those like in his videos.
My roughest case was an elderly man who locked himself out and tried to climb over a balcony to get back in but he fell off and rushed about 8m deep. Luckily he survived and was at the ICU for a very long time. Unfortunately I dont know what happened to him because I changed the unit but it was very interesting for my learning 🙌🏼
Usually, yes, but don’t be surprised when these odd patients arrive. When I drove myself to the ER years ago for a wrist cut caused by a run-in with some glass, the staff all wanted to show me around as having somehow perfectly removed my skin layers without injuring the underlying tissue.
My heart sank when I heard the words "at autopsy." It's messed up how rapidly he declined after mistakenly sipping some coconut water.
when the pupils stop responding the prognosis is pretty certain to be dead. For slaughtering you touch the eye ball there will be no response meaning they are fully gone to what ever lays beyond (If you buy into that) basically the eyes are hard wired directly to the brain, so they only stop responding when the brain is gone.
I bought young coconut long time ago, when I opened the 🥥 it was rotten and has molds inside.I threw it right away. I don’t buy that anymore. Thank you for sharing his story and made us aware of taking food in your mouth without knowledge about how long it’s been sitting on the table.
I'm a new subscriber, and i have to say that i REALLY love these videos. At first, i was laughing at your intense narration, but I've gotten used to it and i find it to be so engaging. It builds tension in the story. And the way you weave in basic instruction on the roots of the various medical terms is just brilliant. Thank you for doing this. I've already told several friends to start watching.
Also, the way you frame the diagnostic processes for these various symptoms is fascinating. It kinda makes me wish i stuck with my initial premed university program.
despite getting really anxious every time I watch chubbyemu's videos, I still can't help but watch them all the way through because of how well made these videos are
I swear this isn’t an ad, but I’ve been bingeing Fascinating Horror for the same reasons. Not sure it’s good for me! lol
@@LiusilaI love Fascinating Horror as well!
Same
Extremely informative, too.
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I find it very heartwarming whenever you remind us that these situations are rare and not to go overboard when we watch your videos. Thanks for looking out for us
yeah, I think we'd be all paranoic by now if he didn't
I really appreciated that too. His videos are so enticing and alluring but they give me the absolute worst type of anxiety because of, for lack of a better example, a video like this one. I don’t even think I can say the guy made a proper mistake, I have definitely started eating something bad and bailed on immediately before. This is the first time I’ve seen him mention the anxiety effects his videos can have so it really helps me feel alot less unreasonable for my own natural reactions to them aswell as the anxious moments in my life.
I had a microbiology lecturer in the 80s who was an expert on food microbiology and often called in by the government when an outbreak happened.
Each week we would be looking at a different bacteria or bacterial family and she would pepper her lectures with actual cases, turning the class off just about every food or liquid under the sun. One rice dish killing 140 people at a wedding feast, a guy bringing uncooked lobster back from Florida to Wyoming and giving everyone cholera, a bloke getting pnuemonic anthrax in Australia (the only person ever) who had never been out of the city, but got it from working on the docks unloading rugs from Afghanistan full of anthrax spores, kids getting brucellosis from unpasteurised milk, etc, etc. You ended up realising that all food can be dangerous if handled incorrectly. Forty years later, the classmates I am still in contact with, still remember Dragonlady and her lectures...
yes i really need it 😭
@@skwervin1 do you have anything you can link on the rice dish one? I tried looking it up but nothing relevant came up.
One thing that I really appreciate about your videos is how you translate the Latin to make it understandable. For example "itis, meaning inflammation".
What an absolutely horrific way to go. That was just catastrophic destruction. Poor man. 😢
Now I gotta be afraid of coconut water
just make sure it isn't sus
Lmaooo
Afraid of everything lol
No you don't just don't leave a coconut that's supposed to be refrigerated on your counter for one month then eat it
lol
great detail in the video! u have a new follower🤙🏼
A few months ago i walked into a 7/11 and purchased a small container of chocolate milk. I opened this container as i was walking back to my car. I then took a drink of this stuff and immediately it felt like scalding hot water had hit the back of my throat. I wretched and spit back out what i yet had not swallowed. I poured the contents of this container on the ground and to my horror it was a coal black slimy mass of severely spoiled milk. I was furious and marched back in the store to show the clerk what i had just ingested, he just said "sorry man" and went into the back of the store and brought back a fresh container of milk and handed it to me. Before leaving that store i walked back over to the dairy cooler and opened the door, the air inside of it was barely even cool, 50 degrees at best. The next few days were a delightful mix of horrible stomache cramps, vomiting and endless diarrhea. This gross negligence could have easily killed me, as this very sad video clearly illustrates. I am now very very prudent when it comes to buying perishable items out of a cooler. And will never buy such a thing from another 7/11 ever again. Inexcusable!
This video was terrifying and tragic but it was also one of your best, the ones that keep me guessing what the problem is right to the very end are my favourites. I also really liked how you warned people not to be cavalier with spoiled food but equally not to be wasteful by throwing things out too early, and emphasising how rare this case was.
Nobody would expect 3-NPA right from the start. The fact that only traces level of this acid was able to kill him is terrifying. 3-NPA could even exist in naturally grown sugar canes and traditionally fermented foods.
I'm always wary of fresh products and products with a high water content. Things like pasta, rice, pretty much anything packaged is probably fine past expiration if it smells fine. Even eggs are fine past expiry because they're inside a sealed she'll. But I won't touch any fruit or vegetable that looks even remotely wilted. And I refrigerate all fruit, even apples and bananas. A peeled coconut sitting on the counter for weeks? Too risky.
Stuff like bread is fine after the expiration date as long as it isnt moldy. The date generally means when it starts to get stale
@@k-isfor-kristina refrigerated banana? 💀💀💀 just eat it within like a few days of buying it. Not that hard if you get the recommended 5 servings a day
Wilting isn't an issue usually.
First it was like "Wow this case is interesting", then promptly turned to "Oh, he died." That's mildly terrifying. And people give me crap because I will smell anything and everything I intend to drink or eat before doing so.
Same! It may have actually saved me multiple times. Like the time I sniffed the weetbix and smelt a fish oil smell.
It was _bloody ergot_
@@elvingearmasterirma7241 you lost out on a damn good time! constant streams of diarrhea and powerful, demonic hallucinations
but fr now this makes me think I need to sniff every single thing I eat.
@@AdamOwenBrowning Dont forget the seizures!
Def food you are uncertain for. And if youre still uncertain.
Chuck it
Hey, you have a nose, of course you should use it - more power to you! It (and our eyes, of course) is the first step to preventing something like this from happening to us. Should be, anyway.
Remember tho, he died as a result of toxic mold poisoning, not bacteria. The mold that killed him can grow on food that is not yet rotten. Mold doesn’t always have a smell, and this particular mold has killed multiple people around the world after they ate fruit that was not rotten & did not smell. They just thought it was fine to eat, because in most cases mold is not particularly dangerous to consume. So sniffing your food isn’t the most reliable way to avoid being poisoned by it.
Man this video genuinely traumatized me, I love coconut water but everytime i drink it now i immediately remember what happened to this poor soul. I can’t enjoy it anymore the way I did before seeing this.
I watched this video when it first came out but didnt comment back then, but i have to comment now because i just cant forget this story.
That such a common Food item some people drink and eat everyday could have such potent poison in it that basically a drop could kill you is so terrifying
I'm glad.
It’s cool how TH-cam algorithm brought your videos back. Used to watch your content few years ago it’s like bumping into an old friend 😅
This is actually very scary. I feel very sorry for both him suddenly dying due to just a small mistake, and for his family's loss.
I don't think I ever heard before of a case like this. Just feels soo.. scary, you know? One day you see your family member fully well, the next day they're in critical condition due to fungus from the fruit they barely touched.
Arghh spoiler!
@@ruthbat-leah4078 Duh, don't read comments 1st
Just avoid it by not drinking month old food that you left out when it was supposed to be in the fridge.
That is a true case of actual lethal poisoning. The fact that the dose could have been very small is very scary. And also the fact that apparently (we'll never know) he washed his mouth, something I've done a lot when tasting something expired.
Poor guy.
It's not known if the dosage was actually very small according to the published report.
Since it's a reproductive microbe, the "dose" of fungus doesn't relate to risk of death so much as the time to elapse to reach risk of death. The poison "dose" is released by that fungus as it multiplies.
@@enjerth78 terrifying
@@enjerth78 you sure this fungus kept multiplying or making more poison afterwards ?
From the video it seems the fungus only made the poison inside the coconut, and the dude drank some of the poison.
Also his decline was rapid due to chain reaction rather than an increase in amount of poison.
Some poisons aren't metabolised or short lived, they hang around and keep doing damage until they're either removed or it's too late.
I wonder if the guy immediately slamming some high-proof liquor after washing his mouth might have allowed a different outcome?
This story sounds a lot like how Christopher McCandles, the into the wild guy, died back in the 80's when he sojourned up to Alaska and after spending 100 or so days in the Alaska Wilderness was found dead from starvation.
I only saw the movie they made about him, based off the book that was written, based off his journal he kept that was found with his remains. In the movie, he gorged himself on the raw seed pods off of a plant called Eskimo potatoes. I don't know the chemistry of it, but if eaten raw, or in large quantities, something happens to you at a cellular level that keeps your body from converting the food you eat into a usable energy source for your body.
I go to the Saturday morning fresh market in my area. When I buy fresh coconut to drink water from it, the people who prepare it always tell me to drink the coconut water immediately and not leave it out for hours on end or it'll become contaminated.
I write my thesis from "Quantitative analysis from nitropropionic acid", but I am way behind schedule (months), because my depression and procrastination. I have been watching this channel for years, and this video just popped up on my recommended video list. This poisoning case is part of my thesis too, because there are not many human poisonings from 3-NPA. This video gave me a new motivation to really start to write my thesis. And I am very thankful for that :)
I totally understand how it feels to be behind schedule on a thesis... I'm years behind mine. Hope things get even if only a little better for you each day. Life is tough and mental health is even tougher, but you can make it. Your research sounds awesome and I'm pretty sure you're doing an admirable job. Cheers.
the guy did not die in vain then
Hey man, did you get back on that horse? Let me know!
I think everything happens for a reason, this was some kind of "higher power" giving you signs to get moving, I know it's hard to take that first step, trust me, I KNOW, I'm going thru it right now myself, and I feel like I seen this post because I need to stop being a hypocrite and giving people my opinion and advice and motivation (hopefully) and not listen to it myself. I don't have anything as important as a thesis, but it's about as important as it's going to get for me at this point in my life I'm sure, but I degrees, sorry, all we need to do is take that first step and once we do that it gets easier the next time, day whatever the case may be it falls in to place and gets better. It's not good to focus on the past BUT I feel just thinking back to the last time you felt this way or had a situation similar and you didn't die, you made it thru, it blew over, weather or not it was on a good note or a bad, the facts are is it's over and done with and you made it thru, you can get thru this, you are worth it, don't let anyone disturb your peace and happiness if it has to do with other people, you can still love everyone, just love them from afar, they don't have to be around you making you feel anything other than peaceful and content (being realistic cause who ever REALLY happy now a days?) Sorry for the rant. You are worth it, we are worth it and you'll get thru whatever this is, maybe with a few dings, but buff those b*tches out and hold your head high, cause we all are worth it to not only ourselves but for the genuine people out there that you know loves you, there so done for everyone and I'm not even talking just romantically, I'm talking about genuine friendships too.... Blessed be and you got this friend..... 🌺
P. S. Good luck on writing an awesome thesis! 🌻🌻
My uncle drank a mouthful of rotten coconut water once ,spat most of it out too, fortunately he survived. He said he got the sickest he's ever been and in the 50yrs since the mistake he's refused to touch coconuts ever again. After hearing this story I guess he should be just thankful he's alive, I had no idea it could kill you. I won't touch fresh coconuts either after I'd heard my uncles story, but I never imagined they could end you how horrorific.
Millions of people drink coconut water, you just have to be careful and drink it immediately before it's expiry(which is usually about a week)
@@abdullahtrees5204 yeah I drink the carton drink ones (the water without the nut) but I don’t think I’ll use a normal coconut ever again after this story I’ll stick to the carton juice ones instead
I once had a container of it FROM a company and it had a giant mold patty in it! I was terrified but didn't get ill from the one nasty sip. Thank God. I reported it to the company altho I don't think they gave a damn. Vita coco.
@@makeytgreatagain6256No bro even the cart ones aren't cool.
@@DreamseedVR I didn’t get vita coco. Costs too much money lol I buy a different brand and theh are alwyas on sale at Aldi and Lidl so I get 2 for £4 which is a good value as they are usually (vita coco) £3 on their own
I'll say this much: before I started watching this channel, I was a *lot* more cavalier about questionable food than I am now.
Killed by a coconut.. Unfortunate way to go out
I love how educational these videos are. I'm a biomedichal scientist, so I know some stuff and I have seen some stuff, but I still catch myself not being so careful when it comes to food. Amazing video, as usual.
Is there such a thing as a NON-bio medical scientist? Kinda seems like bio is a given in such a field. I'm like 57.3373% sure that a "non-bio' medical scientist would just be called a mechanic. Or robotologist.
@@WaylonCampbell
go away
just leave
bye bye
That sounds like a VERY rough way to die. Can't imagine how sick he felt conscious or not. Absolutely horrible. Rest in peace my friend.
and this is why putting coconuts into your fridge is a life saver
"Here lies AC. He died of coconut poisoning."
Wow, I didn't think the coconut from all the possible things will do him in.
wow! this was surprising - all these people who have done/drunk/eaten all these really stupidly ridiculous things, yet make 'a' recovery, usually a full one. something so simple having such a dramatic & drastic result is quite shocking.
I've worked in the food industry for idk how long and the thing that was always drilled in my head was 'when in doubt, throw it out'.
Not sure how long it's been there? Yeet.
Containers are not intact? Yeet.
Looks weird, smells weird? Yeet.
Tastes funny? Yeet then go to the doctor.
thats cos if you don't ure gonna end up getting sued to oblivion and food business never again. cant really sue yourself for giving yourself food poisoning
the fact that i didn't guess the problem really shows how this one was a really complicated case compared to the ones we usually get in these videos
i still do wonder how concentrated was the toxin in that coconut that it managed to pass through the gastric system and even stayed in large enough amount that even after he vomited there's still enough to slowly kill him
Your videos are wonderfully 💕informative..... thank you!!!
It seems like a big part of the issue that occured here was the coconut having the "premade hole". Had that hole not been made, there probably wouldn't have been any contamination of the coconut interior. If they had to make the hole themselves, they likely would have realized the interior was compromised before they'd ever mistakenly taken a sip
I take food safety very seriously and my family kinda berates me for being "too paranoid". Cases like this make me wonder what the right decision really is though.
better safe than sorry, as the saying goes
The thing is there's so many thousands of molds that will probably do nothing upon ingestion, the guy here just gulped a more dangerous specimen by sheer coincidence. It's one of those cases probably where being hit by lightning is more likely, assuming he did know the coconut wasn't fresh (I've had fresh samples and they still tasted bitter, which often indicates toxic substances).
@@whohan779 Kind of right, but it´s not the mold that is dangerous. Its the toxins made by the mold
@@whohan779 hi..what about raw coconuts..if left like that for a long time..if we drink the water after a month...will it be the same?
@@moulee007 If you only consume their pulp (which usually is fatty and with some sort of membrane) it should already smell or at least taste rancid when it's potentially unsafe to consume.
In this video there were some sort of insects (w/ strong bite) portrayed upon it. Those of course indicate an infestation and are a clear warning sign.
The victim apparently drank from a whole coconut and tasted something suspicious, if the shell was already cracked there probably would've been visual c(l)ues to refrain from doing so.
That must be some seriously toxic stuff, even a tiny accidental taste can kill you
Prior to watching this, I hadn't heard of 3-NPA before, but now I've deeply researched it, and it is truly interesting.
This case hit me. It's sad how he made a simple, human mistake and within hours was dead. It's also fascinating that a toxin acted so fast...Definitely makes me more cautious about eating dubious foods.
Toxin acting fast is the norm. I would argue this one isnt fast enough. Cyanide works in a similar way to this toxin but block complex 4 instead can kill in miuntes.
basically it is like cyanide, as that poison works the same way, and cyanide can be made 100% natural too think I'll be using this for all the mental midgets that keep saying "Oh but that isn't natural!!!" adnuasium when talking about medications and the like!
Most of the truly insidious toxins are mitochondrial
Simple ? that's not a mistake, that's an "ideology", you trained for that.
when it comes to food, if you don't know -> to the trash it go.
I don't play with my health.
Such a tragic case. I have noticed that people living in colder regions have less qualms about fruits going bad; when I moved from Malaysia to Canada people would often leave perishable fruits out on the counter. I always thought shaved drinkable coconut is more of a street food where it's consumed immediately after purchase. Just goes to show that rotting/fermentation can occur anywhere, be careful out there!
Just like ig happens more slowly jn the fridge, it happens more slowly in cold climates. Of course rotting can occur anywhere.
@@imhere1303 He's talking about his culture shock. He's just surprised people in cold climates don't really give too much thought to perishable foods.
@@ETin6666 They do give it thought
If you live in a cold enough climate, in the winter, if it is snowy and really cold outside? You can sometimes leave food that would otherwise perish in your car for several hours. It's like using the cold as a natural refrigerator, or freezer if it's cold enough. I have done this multiple times, but only if I'm damn sure it's cold enough to be refrigeration temp. One time it even got cold enough to freeze some cans of energy drinks I had in my car and the cans burst, another time I had a bottle of unopened coca-cola i my car overnight from a blizzard, and the second I tried to open it, it flash-froze into a slushie like when you put it in the freezer for just long enough.
Reminds me of when I lived in Australia - as an American, I was lead to believe that dry lentils & beans could be put in the pantry at room temperature. Apparently not; apparently there's enough heat/humidity to partially moisturize those legumes & allow bugs to colonize them.
Rip that one guy from Reddit
Here from a reddit post where someone drank rotten coconut water
Same, I am concerned for their safety
He probably died. It's insane how dangerous store bought coconuts can be. I find mold in those things all the time!
I'd never expect the outcome, it's horrifying
Also it's so weird, you show us all these cases where everyone thinks "well this couldn't happen to", like consuming 30000+mg caffeine and the people make a recovery
But a guy takes 1 sip of a coconut and dies, that could happen to basically anyone, thats scary af
Yes indeed. What is even more scary is that his wife told the doctors about the rotten coconut and they still couldn't save him
I guess that's what happens when you ingest a toxin that directly affects mitochondria, which is the powerhouse of the cell, instead of just the organs. It started from that then quickly escalated to brain, liver and kidney damage. I'm curious though if it would make any difference had the doctors found the toxin immediately.
@@somebodythatiusedtoknoooooooow that's because they only looked at ONE factoring fungus. if they looked for more they might have been able to save him.
>that could happen to basically anyone,
Fresh coconut is a common drink here. There's a reason you smell it before drinking, if the fruit wasn't directly prepared infornt of you.
And its not hard to tell either since rotten coconut smells like death.
Also Jesus Christ, do people not do a quick smell test on anything suspicious they eat or plan to eat?
@@erinthian7122 sucks it affected his mitochondria(which are the powerhouse of the cell) but I wonder what else could have been done to save him so his mitochondria(which are the powerhouse of the cell) didn't die? Also crazy as I didn't realize that a fungus could affect mitochondria(which are the powerhouse of the cell)
I think your transitions in this video were appropriate and well done given how dire this situation turned out to be. I could tell early on that this was not going to end well so it kinda gave me some time to process that. I just think you handled this case really well. It's devastating just how bad this got. This Definitely is one of the saddest cases you've presented.
*F* for the deceased man
Very informative and entertaining...subbed for sure
Hell yeah. Im glad your ch was recommended. Ive watched like 4 videos in a row. Very awesome and interesting stuff. Time to make some family members freak out 😂😂😂. Keep up the awesomeness 🤘🏾
Crazy that it was such a small amount that did this.
I believe the toxin this created is actually a nerve agent used by militaries so not alot is needed at all.
He might have drank half a gulp, in the description it stated it's based on a paper which sounds like he didn't drink much at all ..
@@AaronShenghao It's a guess but needless to say it wasn't deserved.
we talk about poison here. with so many types of it, a potent one can kill with just a single droplet.
@@tebasnineone Or even less
I was starting to wonder if, because of TH-cam's strict censorship because of monetization, we were only getting cases where the patient made a recovery. Not that I'm glad about the outcome of this, but it's important the realities of medicine be able to be conveyed freely on this platform.
Thanks for this video. Definitely gives me something to think about. I'm just floored at how quickly everything turned dire.
With regards to monetization I would be more worried about the Doom music in the background, which was an excellent choice imo. Foreboding that this was a "doomed case".
basically all metabolic toxins will act fast if you get a lethal amount, this basically acts like cyanide.
There were multiple other videos that ended in death. I think a girl that ate a sushi from a gas station died.
@@agurdel I love the Doom music. He's been using it for a while and I thought it was so obscure no one else noticed :)
Same thought
This was a case of Denmark. That's why people from tropical countries found this odd.
Literally saw a betterhelp ad while watching this video
Ok, so, this is the most horrifying video I've seen from you yet. It may have surpassed gas station nachos for me. The poor family and the poor patient! I NEVER would have thought such a thing would happen from one sip when he tried spitting it out and rinsing right after. I also would have thought that was gross it happened but everything would be fine. Absolutely terrifying what does destroy the body when other things I expect to be catastrophic instead end up being no problem...... 😨😰😱
If something sat on my counter for a month I'd at least open it and smell it before putting it in my mouth. The horrifying part is it didn't occur to him to do that. He just trusted the package.
gas station nachos?
@@maxtech226 it's from a different Chubbyemu video
@@chickenlover657 It seemed like the coconut was set up like a juice box where you puncture it with a straw and drink. It's a reasonable mistake to make if he was familiar shelf-stable juice boxes without understanding pasteurization.
@@BulbasaurLeaves No it's not. It's a foodstuff that clearly needs refrigeration. And it's not a package, but a fruit with just a plastic mechanism added. In plastic - which breeds bacteria. Keep anything that needs particular temps at room temp FOR A MONTH and see what happens. Like literally anything. Any fool knows this. So which Disneyland did this guy live in?