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The REAL Story of Columbus Part 1: Columbus WAS NOT A Monster
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2024
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As Columbus was exploring various islands on his first Voyage.
“He sent some men ashore, giving instructions as usual, that if the natives fled at their approach, the men must not touch or take anything from their houses. From the very beginning, Columbus notes how generously the natives shared whatever they had, and he did not want his crew to take advantage of them. He demanded that there be an exchange, for example, beads and bells for needed food supplies. It was unequal to be sure, but trade nonetheless. He continually recounts having to restrain his crew from looting villages when the residents fled at their approach. Throughout the diary he repeats: “I did not allow anything to be taken, not even the value of a pin” (Columbus Diary, p. 107).”- Columbus and the Quest for Jerusalem: How Religion Drove the Voyages that Led to America by Carol Delaney
People who were baptized COULD NOT BE SLAVES. It is crystal clear from multiple first hand sources that Columbus wanted to covert the natives and bring them into Spanish civilization, not conquer and subjugate them as so many Spanish nobles around him wanted to.
“His master plan consisted of baptizing every Indian in the major towns and hamlets of Hispaniola so they could 'serve Their Highnesses like the vassals in Castile,' in the opinion of Las Casas,”- Columbus: The Four Voyages, 1492-1504 by Laurence Bergreen
Bartolome de Las Casas was probably the first ever Native American rights activists and is famous for writing a history of the discovery and colonization of "The Indies" (The Caribbean). He arrived in the new world about the time Columbus finished his last voyage. Las Casas was initially just like the other Spaniards and took slaves, but upon seeing the horrors of what the Spanish were doing, he dedicated his life to working for their rights and good treatment. Las Casas had access to all the first hand witnesses and documents of Columbus when he wrote his history of Columbus's time period. While Las Casas does take issue with some of what Columbus did, this Native rights activist, who had all the primary sources available to him, still had a favorable view of Columbus.
“...truly, I would not dare blame the admiral’s intention, for I knew him well and all I know his intentions were good.” History of the Indies by Las Casas, Book One, Chapter 93, p. 53.”
Las Casas described Columbus as: “… imposing, good natured, kind, daring, courageous, and a pious man… God had endowed him with good judgment, a sound memory and eagerness to learn… as a God fearing man… he must have avoided exaggeration.” p. 15. “I think Christopher Columbus was the most outstanding sailor in the world, versed like no other in the art of navigation, for which divine Providence chose him to accomplish the most outstanding feat ever accomplished in the world until now.” p. 17. “Christopher Columbus, to whom all Christendom is so greatly indebted.” p. 18. “... he was a well-mannered, handsome man and a church-going Christian…” p. 19. “ .. well spoken, wise and prudent.” p. 29. “The excellence of Columbus’s project and its inestimable value...” p 30. “Many is the time I have wished that God would again inspire me and that I had Cicero’s gift of eloquence to extol the indescribable service to God and to the whole world which Christopher Columbus rendered at the cost of such pain and dangers, such skill and expertise, when he so courageously discovered the New World.” pp. 34-35. “My limited understanding and poor eloquence prompt me to think that the fruit of Columbus’s labor speaks better for itself than I do… God gave this man the keys to the awesome seas, he and no other unlocked the darkness, to him and to no other is owed for ever and ever all that exists beyond those doors.” p. 35. “It is fitting to stress that God most sublimely favored all of Spain over other Christian nation, when he chose Christopher Columbus to give to Spain such a golden opportunity in every sense of the word.” p. 36. “... that most worthy man Christopher Columbus was the cause, second to God but first in the eyes of men, being the discoverer and only worthy first admiral of the vast territory known as the New World…” p. 37.
Being raised in Guatemala, we always celebrated Columbus and I couldn't understand why Americans didn't. Thank you for your videos.
He have Columbus day here in America and we do celebrate him!
Yes, but it’s mostly ignorant Americans who continue to celebrate him.
Not anymore in New York City though I don't know why.@@weightelk
We did celebrate when I was a kid just 25 years ago or so. The marxists have taken over the public schools and turned him into a villain by spreading fake stories.
He was a monster. Historical proven that he was very bad man. What else do you expect, they were all criminal and malearía carriers that infected the whole native population.
He brought the evil in person , the catholics.
They slaughtered those people. All guilty. What you are saying is false. You need more prove.
Sadly, Knowing Better walked back on his comments due to history community backlash. He never actually said what he did wrong in his Defense of Columbus video but kowtowed to the history community
Ah yes, Knowing Worser. The man who made a video about our church by using caricatures he play himself rather than actual members to speak for themselves.
@@mattherron173I only watched a handful of his videos. I don't agree with everything the man says. I'm specifically talking about his Columbus video. That is it.
Yep. It’s a shame he cowered away under pressure. Everything in his video was true
@@whoareyou1034 Lol, okay. and I was just criticizing his methodology
There is a letter that Columbus wrote in which he speaks about his calling to explore and about the divine intervention - if you look into, I think it’s be incredibly difficult to not find amazing parallels between how he writes about his experiences and inspiration and the inspiration and direction that Joseph Smith accounted for in his work. Some sections would easily pass as the writings of either man. I suggest Latter-day Saints to look into it. “Our Lord unlocked my mind, sent me upon the sea, and gave me fire for the deed. Those who heard of my emprise called it foolish, mocked me, and laughed. But who can doubt but that the Holy Ghost inspired me?”
Thank you for doing this! I've wanted to do a similar video for years. Such a misrepresented guy. I've become a big fan in recent years (fully recognizing his humanity).
Awesome! Thank you for this. When I was teaching seminary we briefly discussed the prophecy in 1 Nephi that we believe it refers to Columbus as well as importance of the founding fathers of our nation. That it is church doctrine the constitution is inspired by God and that this land is special and a blessed land IF we keep Gods commandments . Our youth need to know these things!
Same here! When we got to those scriptures my youth started telling me how bad Columbus was! I stopped the lesson right then and instead gave them an overview lesson on the whole plan of salvation and how Columbus, the necessary hiding and finding of America, and the Restoration all fit together. This is something all youth should be learning at home but clearly are not. Sad.
We named our Son Christopher “Christ Bearer” 38 years ago. Columbus’s history is wonderful and memorable. Like other things, history is being changed with bad intent. Thanks for this!
Love this, thank you! I can't believe how ignorant we are and how much the truth gets buried.
Another fantastic book on this is "Christopher Columbus: A Man Among the Gentiles" by Clark B. Hinckley. It is written by Pres. Hinckley's son and gives a good overall history of Columbus through and LDS theological lens. I found the book when I was trying to reconcile two opposing views on Columbus: (1) the terrible things people in the media said about him and (2) the fact that he was vicariously baptized and ordained a high priest in the St. George temple by Wilford Woodruff. This book and Jacob's video do a good job debunking point (1) and validating point (2).
Thank you for sharing this! I've been searching for a book like this.
I’ve read this. It’s great!
Thank you so much for this. The Pilgrim Hypothesis by Tim Ballard gives a lot of this more truthful info on Columbus also.
Tim Ballard's books are Deseret Book fantasy for Mormon entertainment. They are just as fake as he is...so very.
I never believed all those terrible stories about Columbus. I know from The Book of Mormon that he was a righteous man. Besides, he is one of the eminent men that showed up to ask for his Temple blessings from Wilford Woodruff in the st. George temple.
Thank you for trying to set the record straight
Wow. Thank you for this. History is so complex, and we in our humanity are so quick to assume. There's almost always, no matter who it is, more to the story.
Just like Joseph smith and story we learn in the manuals
Thank you! I appreciate everything you are doing on your channel!
Will you do another video on misconceptions of George Washington?
Columbus is one of the greatest victims of defamation.
Now Jacob is really doing the lords work, the redemption of historical reputation
Thank you, this was interesting, i had heard some bad things about colombus and my son came home from school saying we should get rid of colombus day. But i remember reading how he was inspired by God to sail out west, or so he thought. It didnt perterb me too much because people can do good and bad things. But i had no idea people have painted him in a bad light without the good stuff.
Thank you for effectively articulating his defense. My ancestors are from Hispañola going back to the 16th century. So, I've done some research too and you're right about his defense of natives.
I remember being almost duped by my college english 101 professor who gave us anti Columbus garbage and I went home and told my mom why do we celebrate this guy. Then I did my own research and found he was vastly misrepresented and that half of what was attributed to him was actually done by his political opponents or against his express orders or crimes and unflattering facts/actions of the native americans had been eliminated or downplayed for the narrative sake. I was infuriated. Columbus was a man worthy of honor and study, he was also a man of his time period and like all other people imperfect and constrained by the culture of his time. But what he achieved and did should be celebrated
I know Tim Ballard is in hot water right now but he wrote a really great book called the Pilgrim hypothesis and it's very cool to see how inspired Colombus was and the connections Tim makes to restoration in America
Innocent until proven guilty 😊
Good book
Hey Jacob, could you provide your list of books in the description? I would like to go through that info as well at some point
It has been crazy watching the disparaging of Columbus in real time over the last 30 years. I went to an elementary school in California named after him, no doubt it has been renamed due to history dunces. He went from hero, to flawed man, and now to monster with each decade.
I don't believe Nephi was talking about Columbus. John Cabot sailed in 1497 from England to the northeastern coast of North America. The Pilgrims were inspired by Cabot, not Columbus, to come to "this country" for Religious Freedom. The Pilgrims landed in the Promised Land. Columbus never set foot in the Promised Land.
1Nephi 13:12. I beheld the Spirit of God, that it came down and wrought upon the man; and he went forth upon the many waters, even unto the seed of my brethren, who were in the promised land.
Nephi says the seed of his brethren were in the Promised Land. There are many other reasons to consider Cabot is the man Nephi saw in his vision, but there is not enough space here. Sure, Columbus became the main historical character in the colonization of North and South America, but there were many others, Cabot among them.
Awesome video. It's a shame so many historical heroes get bad reputations from nothing more but myths and lies.
Yeah, I feel like you have to go to biographies from 200 years ago to get the real story. The one I originally read was by Washington Irving
The argument that Columbus was a despot came from a monk that hated Columbus (perhaps mentioned here), for whatever reason. There is no valid physical witness to wanton atrocities on Columbus' part.
He can't be a really bad man, in Mormonism, because The Book of Mormon says he was a great historical figure.
You've got a religious bias.
Bro did you watch the video? He never had a bias because he was like everyone else disliking Columbus but then he studied and found he wasn’t a monster people paint him as.
Take that stick out the bum and stop being showing you anti Mormon bias
Thank you so much for doing this video. Someone needs to show this to Hanna Seariac.
Opinions are like armpits. Especially on social media.
All except my opinions. Lol. 😂
@@alexlindstrom555 Actually, I would say most of my opinions stink, too. Most of everyone's does.
Excellent analysis, Jacob. Imagine if you used this kind of research on the Church’s dishonest SEC filings instead of fabricating excuses for why such outright deception is ok.
The point is, please be consistent in your pursuit of truth. It’s pretty easy to see situational shifting in your approach and logic.
Also if Christopher Columbus was muslin and was sending people back to Europe to be indoctrinated I doubt that would be spun as such a positive. You're a prisoner in a forien land. I'm sure if you decided you didnt want to join the faith everyone would be fine with that /s.
He was nice to them because he wanted to baptize them... Really nice guy.
I had a socially awkward, perhaps neurodivergent fellow (like myself) correct me and someone else about Columbus Day vs Indigenous Peoples’ day. I said, “Hey! My phone gives me BOTH holidays!” With a little chuckle. But he launched into a lecture about white supremacy and there was no conversation to be had. It wasn’t so serious and threatening that I couldn’t just walk away. So I did.
This is why I don't believe any history, books or any history if I didn't live it myself and see with my own eyes... So much information as got changed in the past to know what is true and not true 😔
Thank you!
Columbus was a very inspired man and his journals show it.
Whoa, his own diary says he was a good guy!?
My mom likes me, and mommy is always right, so I must be a good boy --Chris Columbus
@@TheLeftwheel You're anass.
Ironically if you read his diary it’s pretty telling, in the sense he tells on himself. Anyone who is interested in Columbus should read his diary and you’ll see what kind of person he is for yourself instead of these second or third person sources. I read his diary in Spanish as a high school requirement. He talks about how the native people will make excellent slaves.
Columbus story is complicated, both sides have a narrative.
I'm pumped for this series Jake
Great episode!
Those who will never act heroically will always tear down those who did.
Great video!
This is kinda ironic to see this video. My son and I were just discussing Christopher Columbus this afternoon. I surprises me how what they teach in the schools today paint Columbus with a brode brush as being and evil and murderous mad man. I know from my childhood that he wasn't perfect and made mistakes along the way. I told him that I wasn't going to judge Columbus based of what someone else claims he did. He said that people back during that time made claims about Columbus. I am of the opinion that it still doesn't mean it is true. People said all kinds of things about Christ and still do. People say all k8nds of things about George Washington, but it doesn't make it true. We don't have all the facts about anyone in the past plus facts don't tell the whole story. I am really sick of people judging people in the past by today's standards. If I'm being honest some of the opinions and standards of our day suck. Someday we will be the people that are spoken ill of by future generations. THANKS JACOB FOR THESE VIDEOS!! The younger generations have serious been influenced by propaganda from the left. I personally think it is time to speak truth about people in the past. We are flawed human beings and need to show more respect and learn truth.
We can't even get stores straight about people yesterday 2023 much less 400 years ago.
Did you ever see the movie 1492: Conquest of Paradise?
Jacob is now a self-proclaimed historian and expert on Columbus because he read a few books on the topic. The idea that Jacob is now setting the record straight is laughable. And all his noble gullible followers just eat it up. Here’s something to set the record straight about: Jacob is not a historian and definitely not an expert on Columbus.
Well … I know more about him than you. So I guess that’s a start.
If I have left something out of his story or got something wrong let me know.
You can start by reading excerpts from Columbus’s own log or the journal of Bartolomé de las Casas.
@@thoughtfulfaith2020 There is absolutely no way for you to know that. And assuming you know more than ggalaso is arrogant and presumptuous. Neither of which are Christ-like attributes. I'd expect better from someone who is consistently trying to define what a good Latter Day Saint is.
100% amazing work
Thank you for this. I was fascinated by Nephi's kind words about Columbus, but I was convinced otherwise by the things I heard haha. Nephi was never naive 😂❤
This man just loves to defend controversial people with terrible track records… for what exactly?
The truth
@@normamitchell6179 The truth of genocide?
@@normamitchell6179 He is skipping over some terrible terrible stuff.
That’s his MO.
Always good to hear more than one aspect of historical figures to see them in more light. Columbus may have been "good or bad" but either way, the colonization, systemic genocide and occupation that followed him and continues to this day is what seems to me to be the source of the criticism that sparked your inquiry. Going into another place and attempting to acculturate it through baptisms or any other means is evil, as history as clearly shown.
B. De Las Casas is the main reason people look down on Columbus.
1) Las Casas almost certainly never knew Columbus.
2) Las Casas admired Columbus but blamed him for the bad actions of others.
@@hansenjacob1986 I'm pretty sure they did meet but doesn't mean they knew each other well.
Good work
This was fabulous, now I have at least 6 new books I want to read.
fantastic video!
Gratefully, “…public opinion is not the arbiter of truth.”(President Nelson)
It never ceases to amaze me how often disingenuous, dishonest, bad-faith interpretations of historical events and individuals are parroted by people unwilling to take the time-like you have-to understand what actually happened, and who these people truly are.
Are we all imperfect? Absolutely.
Gratefully, God knows our hearts, and we can know the hearts of men like Columbus “by their fruits”.
The actions of his 4th voyage are not that of a man worth defending. Columbus landed in Jamaica without enough provisions. The natives fed his crew for 6 months but chose to stop. Columbus knew he needed provisions to make the voyage back so he took advantage of the knowledge of the impending lunar eclipse. He told the tribal leader that God was angry with the native's treatment of Columbus and his men and that god would provide a sign by making the moon turn to blood. Columbus son wrote, "with great howling and lamentation they came running from every direction to the ships, laden with provisions, praying the Admiral to intercede by all means with God on their behalf; that he might not visit his wrath upon them." So Columbus then took advantage of this fear while the moon disappeared for nearly 48 minutes. Before the moon was set to come back, he told the natives that they would be forgiven if they gave him the food he required. When the moon returned, he told them that god had pardoned them. It was a disgusting priest craft and nothing more. It would have been more forgivable to use the knowledge to his advantage but by invoking god and making himself into some prophet, he was knowingly taking advantage of his knowledge and applying it to some religious power.
Lol. You do realize they were marooned and going to starve to death right?
I mean it's not such a nice thing he did but he had to save his crew who was under his charge and to make it back to Europe alive. In the annals of history this is not so bad for what his options were.
The Book of Mormon speaks of Columbus, so it is very relevant as that he fulfilled prophecy.
The book of Mormon was written after Columbus... How would he fullfil prophecy.
@@chunkycornbread4773 if you read it, you would know. But a little hint, 3 nephi and 1 Nephi it tells of the treatment of the Native Americans and the further events in the North American continent. The government drove the Lord’s covenant people (the Natives who were the lost and scattered tribes of Israel) about in brutal, ruthless ways. We are also have seen the great and abominable church fill the whole Earth and persecute the saints. The Pioneers heading west. So so so many prophetic pronouncements.
@@zionmama150 I appreciate the reply but that would be like me in the present day writing a book and saying that George Washington fulfilled prophecy by becoming the president of the united states. If it has already happened its not a prophetic claim. Unless I claimed the book I'm writing today was actually written 500 years ago.
@@chunkycornbread4773 um no because the natives weren’t scattered until decades later after the Book of Mormon was written. It also describes the calamity of our present day and is a prophecy of the secret combinations in our midst. 2020 was a direct apocalypse of this Book in that the year played out exactly as written in many places in the Book of Mormon. Tell me, have you read it cover to cover or not?
@@zionmama150 no I haven't and you sound exactly like every other person from every other religion. "Have you not read holy book well then you wouldn't understand or then you would know what I know". Your no different than any other holy person saying certian events fullfil their prophecy. I'm not going to read every holy book on earth. Expecially not the book of Mormon which has about as convincing an origin story as scientology.
Colombus day? Really? As a Mexican ex-mormon, I can tell you Colombus wasn't what Joseph Smith made him to be. Joseph Smith made it all up.
Bro you don’t even know the details of his story. Can you tell me briefly how his 1st voyage ended and what happened when he returned at the beginning of the 2nd voyage?
Columbus was definately a monster. Whats interesting is the twisted psychology of a person who feels the need to defend him.
Come back when you have some actual facts to present
Nice to see a Southpaw Media episode here on TF. Would you say maybe Chris was the Tim Ballard of his generation?
Trouble is, most people will never see your video. Most people laugh at me when I tell them I watch TH-cam videos. They think you can't trust anything on TH-cam.
I didn't have to do research. I knew Columbus was a man of God from The Book of Mormon. 1 Nephi 13:12.
This is true not an option like the disclaimer says
Excellent point, I remember reading that vox article lol
Wow! I always disliked people saying he was terrible but didn't know any of this. Can't wait for next episode.
What a load of Bensonite whitewash.
Did you watch the other 2 episodes? What did I miss?