@@beefmaster4 1. Colombus was a cool dude 2. Patriotism for American history. 3. Book of Mormon significance And most importantly: 4. I get to wear my tricorn hat
You might have stumbled onto a pure idea for an alternate channel for yourself, Jacob. I have thoroughly enjoyed this different kind of content from you, as well as the deeper exploration of our faith that most of your videos focus on. I think after having listened to this new content, you are truly gifted with a great ability for painting masterfully with your words, a story that helps create an image that not everyone can do.
Without fully knowing his history, I always assumed that revisionist attacks against Columbus came from two sources: hatred against America, which was founded when and how it was in large part due to Columbus' discovery of the new world; and hatred against Christianity, which Columbus and America have helped spread throughout the world. Also, he wouldn’t receive such high praise in the Book of Mormon were he actually a bad character.
@@KnuttyEntertainment It's a fun novel about historians who see problems that resulted in the way Columbus interacted with the New World, and travel back in time to head him off at the pass. It's been a decade since I read it, but IIRC, Card has a lot to say about what makes people "other" others, and what a difference reaching harmony with them can make. He also talks about the human roots of man-made religion, while still leaving the door open for legitimate divine manifestations. Good book, thought provoking, and playing the "what-if?" game with real history is always fun.
Carol Delaney a Anthropology book is awesome and such a great and objective book. Glad to see this is one of the books you include in your list. Great book and surprised me how little I knew about CoLumbus. Wikipedia really uses some of the false information similar to Vox so be careful reading this article. Thank you Jacob from Fallon Nevada
Abraham religion is the very same religion of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints . Wilford woodruff said he was baptized in the temple along with many others and presidents . Like George Washington . And others . Only five were made high priests that day and one was Christopher Columbus . I also heard he was looking for Jerusalem . And that not only did he have the Holy Ghost with him. But that Moroni actually guided him on his journey he sure sounds like a very choice spirit to me . And of course he was accused of things he did not do .
No no no!!! Columbus was NOT Italian!!! Have you not read Manuel da Silva Rosa’s book Columbus- The Untold Story? He researched Christopher Columbus for 25 years. He found A LOT of evidence suggesting that Columbus was born on the Portuguese island of Madeira. So much evidence!! Please- look it up and read the book and watch the videos.
Columbus appeared in Portugal at the age of 14: the age noble boys were recognized by the Crown. There is no previous record of him. He worked in the enterprise of the Portuguese Discoveries, which was limited to very few trusted people, mainly from military orders or important families. He married a noble Portuguese lady, and lived in Portugal up until 1488. He was esteemed by the Portuguese King and Queen.
He was known in Spain as “The Portuguese”. He spoke Portuguese fluently, some Spanish, no Genoese; the only genoese in Columbus‘s life were written in a few letters. In his will, he always favored the Portuguese side of the familiy (his second wife and son were Spanish).
His first wife was a Portuguese noble woman- who came from a family who would only allow her to marry a man of similar status and wealth- not some poor boy from Genoa.
Columbus was educated- he attended the University of Coimbra in Portugal. Back then, only wealthy families sent their sons to university. He wrote to his Italian bankers in Spanish. Anyway….. please read the book.
Sorry pretty sick of hearing about Christopher Columbus. It’s believed that The Polynesians were expert sailors-and research suggests they landed in the Americas centuries before Columbus. Polynesian voyagers sailed without a compass or any other nautical instruments. Maybe do some research on Polynesian voyagers.
Cool, but I hope you will listen to all of these videos. I think Columbus coming to this continent from Europe is a big deal. And The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ says that an angel from God showed Nephi in vision "a man among the Gentiles, who was separated from the seed of my brethren by the many waters; and I beheld the Spirit of God, that it came down and wrought upon the man; and he went forth upon the many waters, even unto the seed of my brethren, who were in the promised land." Many waters = what we call the Atlantic Ocean
Definitely faith promoting, as expected. I don't think Columbus was on par, with say, Hitler, as a bad person. I also think there are revisionists that are just as biased about the subject as LDS people are. The Book of Mormon mandates that God inspired Columbus. If God inspired Columbus, he didn't do a good job of it, because Columbus was not a good person, at all. Again, I'm not agreeing with extremist revisionists in their quest to paint him as on par with Hitler, but he just wasn't a decent person, by any measure. Reading through 1 Nephi 13, it's just an insertion into the story, of the polished version of the discovery and founding of America. It's a typical story told in Smith's time. It reads like a July 4th address, it's so nice about it.
Did you listen to all of these videos, and have you read the books that he read? I'm not convinced that Columbus was "not a good person at all." I haven't read the books yet, but I want to.
@@amandadangerfieldpiano Yes. And I've read the "con" side. And, the LDS position is biased because of the Book of Mormon. It's a religious position for LDS.
Colombus day (this Monday) is my birthday. Always loved the holiday. The slander he gets from the historical revisionists is entirely undeserved.
I understand it being your birthday, but why else do you love it? No festivities or anything
@@beefmaster4
1. Colombus was a cool dude
2. Patriotism for American history.
3. Book of Mormon significance
And most importantly:
4. I get to wear my tricorn hat
Hey, that was my birthday too!
You might have stumbled onto a pure idea for an alternate channel for yourself, Jacob.
I have thoroughly enjoyed this different kind of content from you, as well as the deeper exploration of our faith that most of your videos focus on.
I think after having listened to this new content, you are truly gifted with a great ability for painting masterfully with your words, a story that helps create an image that not everyone can do.
Really enjoying this. Thank you, brother.
This was excellent - thank you for putting this together!
Without fully knowing his history, I always assumed that revisionist attacks against Columbus came from two sources: hatred against America, which was founded when and how it was in large part due to Columbus' discovery of the new world; and hatred against Christianity, which Columbus and America have helped spread throughout the world. Also, he wouldn’t receive such high praise in the Book of Mormon were he actually a bad character.
Yes, I agree with you on all of that.
Happy Columbus Day!
Bringing the Bible to the American continent was part of God's plan.
Everyone should check out Pastwatch: the Redemption of Christopher Columbus by Orson Scott Card
The Latter-day Saint who made Ender’s game? Didn’t know he wrote about Colombus.
@@KnuttyEntertainment Yeah, he wrote it in the 90s when another round of historical revisionism was underway.
@@KnuttyEntertainment It's a fun novel about historians who see problems that resulted in the way Columbus interacted with the New World, and travel back in time to head him off at the pass. It's been a decade since I read it, but IIRC, Card has a lot to say about what makes people "other" others, and what a difference reaching harmony with them can make. He also talks about the human roots of man-made religion, while still leaving the door open for legitimate divine manifestations. Good book, thought provoking, and playing the "what-if?" game with real history is always fun.
GREAT episode homie
I though for a moment I imagined seeing part 2 on my feed.
Carol Delaney a Anthropology book is awesome and such a great and objective book. Glad to see this is one of the books you include in your list. Great book and surprised me how little I knew about CoLumbus. Wikipedia really uses some of the false information similar to Vox so be careful reading this article. Thank you Jacob from Fallon Nevada
I would like to see these truths in a docrementry.
That would be an excellent documentary.
My understanding was that they also knew the size of the earth as well, it was the size of Asia that was in debate
Great!
Do Joseph McCarthy next!
Abraham religion is the very same religion of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints . Wilford woodruff said he was baptized in the temple along with many others and presidents . Like George Washington . And others . Only five were made high priests that day and one was Christopher Columbus . I also heard he was looking for Jerusalem . And that not only did he have the Holy Ghost with him. But that Moroni actually guided him on his journey he sure sounds like a very choice spirit to me . And of course he was accused of things he did not do .
Abrahamic covenant is the same covenant as the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints .
It will be interesting to hear about Abrahamic religion to America! Remember - it wasn’t Lehi (obviously!).
You did . It says this is part two.
No no no!!! Columbus was NOT Italian!!! Have you not read Manuel da Silva Rosa’s book Columbus- The Untold Story? He researched Christopher Columbus for 25 years. He found A LOT of evidence suggesting that Columbus was born on the Portuguese island of Madeira. So much evidence!! Please- look it up and read the book and watch the videos.
Columbus appeared in Portugal at the age of 14: the age noble boys were recognized by the Crown. There is no previous record of him.
He worked in the enterprise of the Portuguese Discoveries, which was limited to very few trusted people, mainly from military orders or important families.
He married a noble Portuguese lady, and lived in Portugal up until 1488.
He was esteemed by the Portuguese King and Queen.
He was known in Spain as “The Portuguese”.
He spoke Portuguese fluently, some Spanish, no Genoese; the only genoese in Columbus‘s life were written in a few letters.
In his will, he always favored the Portuguese side of the familiy (his second wife and son were Spanish).
His first wife was a Portuguese noble woman- who came from a family who would only allow her to marry a man of similar status and wealth- not some poor boy from Genoa.
Columbus was educated- he attended the University of Coimbra in Portugal. Back then, only wealthy families sent their sons to university. He wrote to his Italian bankers in Spanish. Anyway….. please read the book.
I was born in Costa Rica, but I am not Costa Rican. That's because my parents (and their parents, and their parents) are from the United States.
Sorry pretty sick of hearing about Christopher Columbus. It’s believed that The Polynesians were expert sailors-and research suggests they landed in the Americas centuries before Columbus. Polynesian voyagers sailed without a compass or any other nautical instruments. Maybe do some research on Polynesian voyagers.
Cool, but I hope you will listen to all of these videos. I think Columbus coming to this continent from Europe is a big deal. And The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ says that an angel from God showed Nephi in vision "a man among the Gentiles, who was separated from the seed of my brethren by the many waters; and I beheld the Spirit of God, that it came down and wrought upon the man; and he went forth upon the many waters, even unto the seed of my brethren, who were in the promised land." Many waters = what we call the Atlantic Ocean
Definitely faith promoting, as expected.
I don't think Columbus was on par, with say, Hitler, as a bad person. I also think there are revisionists that are just as biased about the subject as LDS people are.
The Book of Mormon mandates that God inspired Columbus. If God inspired Columbus, he didn't do a good job of it, because Columbus was not a good person, at all. Again, I'm not agreeing with extremist revisionists in their quest to paint him as on par with Hitler, but he just wasn't a decent person, by any measure.
Reading through 1 Nephi 13, it's just an insertion into the story, of the polished version of the discovery and founding of America. It's a typical story told in Smith's time. It reads like a July 4th address, it's so nice about it.
Did you listen to all of these videos, and have you read the books that he read? I'm not convinced that Columbus was "not a good person at all." I haven't read the books yet, but I want to.
@@amandadangerfieldpiano Yes. And I've read the "con" side.
And, the LDS position is biased because of the Book of Mormon. It's a religious position for LDS.
Abrahamic covenant is the very same covenants the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has .