My grandpa had an 8430 for a while, he had a lot of engine trouble with it. He bought it with 2100 hours on it, he said when he bought it he was told that at 1400 the original engine had been replaced. At 2800 hours the engine let go again. He got it back together ran it for a while and broke a crankshaft in it. Finally put it back together and sold it. I don't know if it was turned up from stock or not it was before my time. He was told that Deere was trying to squeeze too much power out of too small an engine. The few I have seen advertised around here all have been repowered. Thanks for the video John! Hope you have a Merry Christmas
While the engine is out, consider fish plating the inside of the frame with some 3/4" plate steel. The engine is solid mounted, and these are noted for twisting the engine block in a hard pull. Anything you can do now to beef up the frame will lead to longer engine life. The Kinze Cummins conversion addressed the issue with an entire new sub frame and a pad mounted engine. Deere really screwed the original owner of these tractors, many engine failures at around 2,500 hours. They did have a program for a complete engine replacement, however. If I were in your situation, I would definitely be looking for a place to add rigidity. Either by boxing in the frame, or bolting plate to the outside of the frame, with a lip to roll over on the horizontal top rail. Maybe add a cross member ahead of the engine below the hydraulic pump.
I bought an 8630 from a dealer that was brought in for a clutch problem. Dealer said low clutch pressure and quoted over 12k. I bought it as is (cheap) and split it. Clutch looked fine, finally discovered when they put a new filter on, they split the rubber gasket on the filter and a chunk went into the valve body, cutting off oil supply. I went through a lot of work for nothing, but I know what I have now. Also, seemed low on power, and a youtuber, maybe you suggested I check for a hole in the steel air pipe that goes to the pump. Sure enough, the clamp rubbed a hole!
Operated a 8640 with the 50 series engine for years and years.. it was a great tractor. I did many tasks from pushing silage to discing . Pulled a plow with ease .. only once did we have to adjust the cable for the quad range. Other than that it was flawless.. I loved it..
Thank you for all your videos I really enjoy them! Good input on the sound guard 4wds too, I’ve always thought they had an unnecessary bad reputation. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Grateful for the mechanic videos, I’m a city boy but I’m hoping to tear in a 4455 before I go back to Chicago. A lot of takeaways from each project you have since I’ve only worked on construction equipment. Wish me luck.
Really enjoy your shop videos. Have you ever rebuild the lift cylinders on a 3155? They have the spring clip on the back side of the ram only accessible through the hose port. How in the word do you get it back on after you put new seals in ???
I remember when they come out with the 8430 and 8630 some guys would say the 7020 and the 7520 were better tractors then when the 40 series came they said they were alot better. I heard to that they like to put the 50 series in the older tractors.
Have you ever thought about hiring a farm hand/garage helper? You have a lot of knowledge and I hope you pass it on to someone else!! Thanks for the great information
Someday we will have to get a young person. My nephew is having their first baby, my wife and I told them when the kid turns 5 we get them for the summer!
I would be interested to hear your input on the investment verses the benefits of an enclosed shop, especially in the winter. My dad only had an open ended shed and I think the value of equipment was not kept up as well as working in the elements.
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 good tip on removing the 2 speed out of that tractor i need to do that to my 8430 this winter some time, merry Christmas and happy ney year to you Jon!!
Are the 8560 series tractors easier to work on, I've had thoughts of getting an 8760 over the years, grain cart and what the hell, put it on my strip till. Takes some power in some ground😆
So much easier to drive and more comfortable! An 8760 with 12 speed stick is a great tractor. There is an 8870 over here a farmer is selling, 42k is what he I asking. The only thing we have seen real bad is the circuit board in the cab can go bad, have seen fan switches melt. Otherwise like any tractor, anything can break
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 Ok, I didn't know much about them other than I got a toy 8760 on my shelf I got when they first came out😆 Looks like the transmission is in the front half? There's an 8760 south of here with the 12 speed powershift, 3 point and PTO with 6600 hrs, good rubber for 44,000, I was thinkin pretty hard about it for end of year but went on to the co-op and gave them all my money again 🤷♂️🤣🤣 Is an 8870 still the deere 619 motor?
Hey jon awesome videos really enjoy watching!! Have a question I have an 8430 4wd and cpl yrs ago it started dumping hydraulic oil in the crankcase at a high rate... 750hrs on an overhaul... Any ideas?? Thanks
Good question, if you remove that Green Round panel blow your door and below the right window and look around at the harnessing maybe you can see a plug. I will look tomorrow if I remember
@EDB Z28 lol There's a lot of these jobs that you just got tell yourself one step at a time because if you look at the whole picture you're kind of mentally defeated before you even start. For me the worst ones are like the 2955 with a cab
It’s great the pride you take in everything you do from working on tractors to raising the cattle and taking care of the land
Exhausting. Lol, 6:30 heading home, saw a cow look weak, now we will be here until 8 pm treating her. Hopefully she lives
My grandpa had an 8430 for a while, he had a lot of engine trouble with it. He bought it with 2100 hours on it, he said when he bought it he was told that at 1400 the original engine had been replaced. At 2800 hours the engine let go again. He got it back together ran it for a while and broke a crankshaft in it. Finally put it back together and sold it. I don't know if it was turned up from stock or not it was before my time. He was told that Deere was trying to squeeze too much power out of too small an engine. The few I have seen advertised around here all have been repowered. Thanks for the video John! Hope you have a Merry Christmas
Thanks for the story!
You have a great Christmas and a great new year
A lot of information again , love your videos as an old scool John Deere fanatic
While the engine is out, consider fish plating the inside of the frame with some 3/4" plate steel. The engine is solid mounted, and these are noted for twisting the engine block in a hard pull.
Anything you can do now to beef up the frame will lead to longer engine life. The Kinze Cummins conversion addressed the issue with an entire new sub frame and a pad mounted engine.
Deere really screwed the original owner of these tractors, many engine failures at around 2,500 hours. They did have a program for a complete engine replacement, however.
If I were in your situation, I would definitely be looking for a place to add rigidity. Either by boxing in the frame, or bolting plate to the outside of the frame, with a lip to roll over on the horizontal
top rail. Maybe add a cross member ahead of the engine below the hydraulic pump.
I bought an 8630 from a dealer that was brought in for a clutch problem. Dealer said low clutch pressure and quoted over 12k. I bought it as is (cheap) and split it. Clutch looked fine, finally discovered when they put a new filter on, they split the rubber gasket on the filter and a chunk went into the valve body, cutting off oil supply. I went through a lot of work for nothing, but I know what I have now. Also, seemed low on power, and a youtuber, maybe you suggested I check for a hole in the steel air pipe that goes to the pump. Sure enough, the clamp rubbed a hole!
Nice!
I would turn off the aneroid and enjoy bottom end hp
I had a video on that
Operated a 8640 with the 50 series engine for years and years.. it was a great tractor. I did many tasks from pushing silage to discing . Pulled a plow with ease .. only once did we have to adjust the cable for the quad range. Other than that it was flawless.. I loved it..
Nice!
Thank you for all your videos I really enjoy them! Good input on the sound guard 4wds too, I’ve always thought they had an unnecessary bad reputation. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Thank you very much you have a good Christmas and a happy New Year as well!
joh your kowledge about these tractors is impressive.
Ha! Thanks
Grateful for the mechanic videos, I’m a city boy but I’m hoping to tear in a 4455 before I go back to Chicago. A lot of takeaways from each project you have since I’ve only worked on construction equipment. Wish me luck.
Good luck!
The JD tech manuals are definitely your friend!
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 what’s the best place to get a tech manual?
From deere for a hard copy of there are places on line that you can download a copy.
Really enjoy your shop videos. Have you ever rebuild the lift cylinders on a 3155? They have the spring clip on the back side of the ram only accessible through the hose port. How in the word do you get it back on after you put new seals in ???
I know the video was more about the 8630, but those 4455 mfwd are just a dang nice tractor!
Yes they are! You would look good in a 4055-4455!
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 I agree! Its the price tag that makes things tough! Can you guarantee me $6 corn for the next 10 years? 🤪
I remember when they come out with the 8430 and 8630 some guys would say the 7020 and the 7520 were better tractors then when the 40 series came they said they were alot better. I heard to that they like to put the 50 series in the older tractors.
Yeah lot of repower out there with 50 series swaps, I was always told that the blocks got stronger.
Have you ever thought about hiring a farm hand/garage helper? You have a lot of knowledge and I hope you pass it on to someone else!! Thanks for the great information
Someday we will have to get a young person.
My nephew is having their first baby, my wife and I told them when the kid turns 5 we get them for the summer!
I like those rear axle casting jack stands! Get those at Menards? lol
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas Tyler and family!
2 for 1 sale!
I would be interested to hear your input on the investment verses the benefits of an enclosed shop, especially in the winter. My dad only had an open ended shed and I think the value of equipment was not kept up as well as working in the elements.
Good topic, let me work on that
Love the sound effects
Great video Jon!!
Thank you, you have a merry Christmas and happy new year!
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 good tip on removing the 2 speed out of that tractor i need to do that to my 8430 this winter some time, merry Christmas and happy ney year to you Jon!!
Are the 8560 series tractors easier to work on, I've had thoughts of getting an 8760 over the years, grain cart and what the hell, put it on my strip till. Takes some power in some ground😆
Hate to say light years ahead but darn close. Much much easier to work on,
So much easier to drive and more comfortable!
An 8760 with 12 speed stick is a great tractor.
There is an 8870 over here a farmer is selling, 42k is what he I asking.
The only thing we have seen real bad is the circuit board in the cab can go bad, have seen fan switches melt. Otherwise like any tractor, anything can break
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 Ok, I didn't know much about them other than I got a toy 8760 on my shelf I got when they first came out😆 Looks like the transmission is in the front half? There's an 8760 south of here with the 12 speed powershift, 3 point and PTO with 6600 hrs, good rubber for 44,000, I was thinkin pretty hard about it for end of year but went on to the co-op and gave them all my money again 🤷♂️🤣🤣 Is an 8870 still the deere 619 motor?
Yep
Sorry...got motion sickness watching your video.
Hey jon awesome videos really enjoy watching!! Have a question I have an 8430 4wd and cpl yrs ago it started dumping hydraulic oil in the crankcase at a high rate... 750hrs on an overhaul... Any ideas?? Thanks
Rear engine seal or seal housing to block or pan
Thanks that's what I was afraid of, time to pull it apart again...
Ugh sorry.
I can't picture any other way.
My thoughts as well, should come apart easy at least
@Aaron Dahl possible frost plug on end of cam?
Hello. I noticed on the 44 it has the lower work lights. Do you know if they all have the loom for them or extra lights if I was to buy some for mine?
Good question, if you remove that Green Round panel blow your door and below the right window and look around at the harnessing maybe you can see a plug. I will look tomorrow if I remember
Where’s the video on the little tractors in the back ground
Looks like a nightmare if you ask me! Lol. God bless ya
Not the nicest thing out there to do for jobs.
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 thank God for guys capable like you to do it. Takes more than just expertise…temperament is HUGE.
@EDB Z28 lol
There's a lot of these jobs that you just got tell yourself one step at a time because if you look at the whole picture you're kind of mentally defeated before you even start. For me the worst ones are like the 2955 with a cab
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 good advice. I remember watching some of that (29) on one of your videos. My head would be spinning.
i have a 8630 for sale with spun main bearing,good parts tractor im just south of lacroose,wisc.
What does it have for tires on it?
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 20x42 maybe 25%
What will.all states ag give you for it?
@@jonstevensmaplegrovefarms3754 A YEAR OR SO AGO THEY OFFERD 3500.00 THEY WOULD PICK IT UP.
Can see that, hard to make much money on them.