Thanks for reviewing this model you’ve saved me a lot of money I really wanted this set but haven’t got a big enough display cabinet being as it doesn’t move cheers Al
I’ll be investigating into the model more soon and I’ll make an update video when I can. I obviously can’t guarantee that every model will be the same as mine but with how much these cost it’s not worth the risk right now.
30-426SF Bachmann BR Western Pullman 6-Car Train Pack costs £637.95 from Kernow. It is DCC sound fitted and has a power car both ends! Hornby have never issued a train pack with power cars both ends. You have demonstrated that this is necessary to pull a full rake. This issue also applies to the Eurostar and the Brighton Belle. I think Hornby could make a second power car available as an option for those wishing to run a full rake. Thanks for uploading.
Bachmann Midland Pullman set is on another level in every department, I hope in time they will produce the class 43 HST’s and other sets Hornby chuck into production then pick a price out of the sky!
Thanks for watching. I have deduced that the coaches are the problem and not the motor unit. There is too much drag in these coaches. I’ve put coaches from my other class 800s behind the motor unit from this set and it can pull them.
Model looks great, but lack of pulling power is most disappointing. Hornby's 225 easily pulls nine coaches. Why do these manufacturers never learn. I was considering getting a nine coach rake, but that is unlikely now. Great review, thank you.
I once got the other gwr class 800 at only 300 pounds, absolutely a bargain although it is in the rainbow livery which actually doesnt look that bad-quite dissappointing that Hornby still get the lighting horribly wrong-changing light temperature isnt that difficult！ACCURASCALE PLEASE COME AND GET A GOOD CLASS 800 to the MARKET！！！！！
I believe there more chance of Rishi Sunak growing a spin than that happening, Accurascale are far too busy producing coke, coal wagons and fish vans, I don’t believe we will see anymore amazing things from them for the foreseeable in my opinion.
I had a similar issue with a full-length TT:120 HST. The power car suffered terrible wheelslip. I noticed, however, that the Mk3 coaches were not so free rolling as the earlier Mk1s. As the coaches are available separately (I wouldn't have wanted to risk fiddling with a coach from a train-pack) I took a file to the points of the axles. This released the running and the train runs fine now. Some others have had similar issues, others not. I guess it depends on what you are willing to do given the prices and the risk of invalidating the warranty on a whole train.
I will be looking into the model further to try and reduce the drag after I’ve heard back from Hornby. Fingers crossed I’ll be able to get her working properly
Lubricating the axels made a massive difference on mine. It hauls the full rake but sometimes struggles to pull away. Ill be interested to see yours after you add weight to the power car aswell
I’ll be doing an update soon. I’ve lubricated all the axles on all the coaches and added a bit of weight to the motor unit and needless to say she’s now almost perfect.
It would be great if Accurascale produced a set like this, I guess they’re too busy designing wagons most of the time, especially ones that most other manufacturers produce.
@@fyfieldjunction Hornby have too many underdeveloped products and they are getting found out big time, dull plastic fantastic products on sale for mega money which is a joke, they need to wake up before they go under, their coaches are good to be fair and some of the wagons with NEM pockets, rather than listen to the unhappy customers they keep churning out this poor quality stuff, if Marklin, Fleischmann, Roco produced this train pack it would rock your world believe me, Hornby are so far behind it’s embarrassing now.
Price issues aside, you’ve given very good ratings to a combined set of models which you’ve clearly demonstrated is not fit for purpose. If Hornby intended it to run as a 9 coach train yet it cannot so do, value for money would be generous at 1/10. Sorry to say, you need to send it back as it’s been mis-advertised under the Sale of Goods Act. Please don’t tamper with it meanwhile as you need to protect your warranty. I was keen to see your video as I’d spotted a Facebook posting saying the motor can’t handle 9 coaches. Your video proves this is a design fault which Hornby must now correct.
Good honest review of a not so great product in my opinion, Hornby haven’t even designed a decent motorised roof fan yet so I doubt they will venture into the motorised pantograph area, the price of this set is ridiculous! It’s no way near the quality of the Bachmann Midland/Western Pullman set in any department! I take my hat off to you for spending your hard earned money on this set, I hope you get what ever issues there were sorted, thanks for sharing.
@@fyfieldjunction To be fair there should be a power car at each end for the money! Those pantographs are made for pence and they’re flimsy and cheap like Hornby’s attitude, I hope Bachmann take on projects that include sets like this because they will be made very well indeed, I’m not sure if you have a Midland Pullman so if you get a chance to see how amazing the sets are, Bachmann started making them over 10 years ago with detailing that hasn’t really been surpassed to this day in my opinion, the price was reflective because the set was superb, I have a set and I’m seriously happy with it because it’s superior to anything Hornby has to offer.
Please let us know what if anything Hornby say or whether you do find that one or two of the coaches are not running freely. Hornby's new brand manager does claim that they respond to genuine problems. I recall that I bought some Bachmann Thompson coaches for my brother a few years ago only to discover that the wheels were catching on the underside of the coach bodies, creating lots of drag.
I believe the main issue with drag on these as lack of lubrication. Previous class 800 models I’ve purchased have had lubricant applied to the axles of the coaches from the factory however that isn’t the case on these.
It’s about time Hornby done two motors for there 800s and hsts especially at the prices they charged for. There just ripping people off. Obviously they did not test it with 9 coaches. They must thick or cluesless at Hornby 😂
You mentioned something about the controller you're using. When it's in a 9 car consist, maybe another controller might help. I believe a similar problem with Hornby's 2020 APT that due to only one NDM being motorised in the 14 car consist. It needs two motorised NDM.
The analogue controller I use is more than capable of providing enough power for locos. I only mention it because of the loud buzzing noise locos make when using it. Basically informing people that the buzzing isn’t a fault or issue or whatever with the locos motor but more just a standard feature of using this controller.
@fyfieldjunction without saying to much, what kind if controller is it? I know some Hornby controllers can make a traun motor make a buzzing noise. As stated before, for the 2020 APT, running a full car set needs two motorised motor (NDM) cars. That Azuma definitely needs another motorised, not a dummy car.
It’s the standard silver Hornby train set controller I use. I very rarely run analogue as i only really use it for running in new models or for testing analogue models that I’m doing work on so I have no need of buying something that’s more expensive. The APT was certainly an interesting one. As for this model I does seem like the issue is just too much friction on the coaches due to lack of lubrication. I’ll be doing an update video soon on the model once I’ve got it going properly.
@fyfieldjunction I've found something similar to a gaugemaster or a suitable CDA brand solves most noise problems. Ditto if it's DCC with a DCC controller/throttle.
Been eagerly waiting for this model to land since they announced it so to hear it is faulty and potentially not fit for purpose is very disappointing. Mine is yet to arrive and am keen to understand if I should cancel with the retailer. Do you have any further feedback or response from Hornby yet?
I haven’t heard anything as of yet but will let everyone know when I do an update video. The issue I’m hoping is easy to resolve as it just seems the coaches have too much drag. I’ll try oiling the axles and adding some extra weight to the motor unit for good measure. Love your vids btw mate and the new layout is looking excellent 👍
I have ran longer and heavy trains in this layout Before without issue. I even run two of my 5 car 800s together permanently now as a 10 without issue although that is with a motor unit at each end. The coaches on this new set do have a lot of drag to them when all together so I’ll look into reducing that if I can and I’ll add some more weight to the motor as well if possible.
@@fyfieldjunction One thing I would try is run it with the 5 car set first to see if the train slows down at any specific area(s). Gradually add/run with an extra coach, added one at a time, until it highlights any specific area of track that causes slowdowns or stoppages. Theoretically there should be a quantity of coaches when it starts to struggle. Other things to check of course is the gaps on the wheels.
I thought your video was really good, i bought the trainbow version of this and like it, i had a feeling it wouldn't be able to take the extra coaches, If you look back in the history of Hornby Remember the HST set where they put the motor in one of the power cars, well same problem add the extra coaches well its got no chance, Personally i have no idea why hornby brought out extra coaches pack for a train that can't take them, and to be honest for the price they can keep them, Overall after doing my own test nice train but a bit overpriced, Maybe hornby should have a chat with kato and see the N gauge version and that can pull far more,
Thanks for watching mate. The model definitely isn’t anywhere near as good as it should be for the money. The extra coach pack is required to make it a realistic length train. The 5 car set on its own wouldn’t be prototypical. A shame that out of the box the model wasn’t useable but luckily the fix was as simple as anything which is all documented in the update video of the model.
If the lights are flicking it can be a variety of things. Power setting could be too low, dirty wheels or track or sometimes it’s just how the model reacts to the controller your using as there’s such a variety out there and they perform differently just like how different locos perform differently. In this case though the flickering lights was just the way the camera picks them up. In person they weren’t flickering and were nice and stable.
It’s a 9 car set so it wasn’t going to be a short review. I know I didn’t look at all 9 coaches however that obviously wasn’t necessary as many of them are practically the same. I appreciate not everyone likes long reviews.
The coaches on the 390s have next to no drag on them though as they are a different design and the coaches don’t have pickups on them for interior lighting like on these. The pendolino mechanism is also completely different as it’s only single bogie drive with traction tyres as the motor unit is much lighter in weight compared to these.
I totally agree. There are far far cheaper and older models out there that have metal pantographs so no excuse really that Hornby haven’t done it on these especially with the latest price.
I admit I was quite generous their. I tried to take into consideration that when the model does run it runs very well. I have found that the issue is the coaches themselves causing too much drag so the motor unit itself isn’t at fault. I’ve tried all my other motorised class 800 units with the coaches from this set and none of them can shift them.
Just got an email announcing this set, but when I saw the pictures and the price I thought: you must be f…ing kidding me!!! The details look like from a toy train, and no decoder or sound for this kind of money is a joke. And the loco not being able to pull the full consist? Wow, I don’t know who engineers this crap, but they probably found their diploma in a Cracker Jack box. After my last experience with Hornby products (total junk), I will not send another penny to them. Can’t wait to watch Sam’s review… 1:10
The price for these is indeed an absolute joke, especially for a model that doesn’t work correctly out of the box. I’ve just released an update on the model and it’s now working fine but obviously shouldn’t need to do any work to a brand new model.
@@fyfieldjunction When one considers that I paid $834 for a 8-car Marklin DB ICE 4 that has sound, multiple light functions, operating pantographs (up & down) and runs like a charm, I think Hornby is really screwing their customers over...
So disappointing. These issues have been far too common with Hornby products over the past 10-15 years. One would have thought that Hornby would have improved their products by now, and the prices they are asking these days just simply aren’t worth it..
Saved me money too. thats shocking. bad instructions, bad motor, even there intro video for the class is bad, it nearly falls of the track! Accurascale need to do one!
Definitely disappointing and terrible value. Lucky the problem ended up being about as simple as it could have been to which I documented and explained in an update video of the model.
I admit the ratings were a bit generous however, I did take into consideration that when the model did run originally without the coaches it ran very well.
Out of interest which parts would you say are unnecessary. I admit I do have a habit of rambling. I just want to ensure I don’t miss out on anything that people may want to know.
Looks a very nice pack, good price for a 5 car unit, great detail, but think you flogged to death the expression " not too bad" over and over and over again, put me off watching the whole review, sorry but too many times repeating yourself, very monotonous, hope you managed to sort out the power problem, very bad on hornby that's for sure
@@fyfieldjunction you'll get better with time, I've done it too, when I've watched my own videos prior to publishing, it's not uncommon for me to re record 2 or 3 scenes, brain fog, nerves and just going blank play a big part, happens to us all, I've now started to write a script before recording, but I too need to improve, all the best.
Just watched your vid, i feel you are too biased, probably cos you just dropped a monkey on a static display model, Hornby have been knocking out overpriced trash for years, its where the likes of Accurascale have risen to fame, they do proper r&d and then release a model that is what we want. Your scoring was far too generous, they sell it as a 9 car pack, whether its the coaches or the motor car thats not fit for purpose is beside the point, its not a working model out of the box. After buying the eurostar with the extra coaches and finding that did not run properly, i refuse to give hornby anymore of my money for inferior poor quality trains.
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Thanks for reviewing this model you’ve saved me a lot of money I really wanted this set but haven’t got a big enough display cabinet being as it doesn’t move cheers Al
I’ll be investigating into the model more soon and I’ll make an update video when I can. I obviously can’t guarantee that every model will be the same as mine but with how much these cost it’s not worth the risk right now.
30-426SF Bachmann BR Western Pullman 6-Car Train Pack costs £637.95 from Kernow. It is DCC sound fitted and has a power car both ends! Hornby have never issued a train pack with power cars both ends. You have demonstrated that this is necessary to pull a full rake. This issue also applies to the Eurostar and the Brighton Belle. I think Hornby could make a second power car available as an option for those wishing to run a full rake. Thanks for uploading.
Bachmann Midland Pullman set is on another level in every department, I hope in time they will produce the class 43 HST’s and other sets Hornby chuck into production then pick a price out of the sky!
Thanks for watching. I have deduced that the coaches are the problem and not the motor unit. There is too much drag in these coaches. I’ve put coaches from my other class 800s behind the motor unit from this set and it can pull them.
Model looks great, but lack of pulling power is most disappointing. Hornby's 225 easily pulls nine coaches. Why do these manufacturers never learn. I was considering getting a nine coach rake, but that is unlikely now. Great review, thank you.
I really would love tk get one of these, I guess the issue is the extortionate price !!! Great video man, and love the review 👌 👍:)
Thanks for watching. The price is insane. Especially with issues like this. Hopefully I’ll be able to get her working properly soon.
I once got the other gwr class 800 at only 300 pounds, absolutely a bargain although it is in the rainbow livery which actually doesnt look that bad-quite dissappointing that Hornby still get the lighting horribly wrong-changing light temperature isnt that difficult！ACCURASCALE PLEASE COME AND GET A GOOD CLASS 800 to the MARKET！！！！！
I believe there more chance of Rishi Sunak growing a spin than that happening, Accurascale are far too busy producing coke, coal wagons and fish vans, I don’t believe we will see anymore amazing things from them for the foreseeable in my opinion.
I had a similar issue with a full-length TT:120 HST. The power car suffered terrible wheelslip. I noticed, however, that the Mk3 coaches were not so free rolling as the earlier Mk1s. As the coaches are available separately (I wouldn't have wanted to risk fiddling with a coach from a train-pack) I took a file to the points of the axles. This released the running and the train runs fine now. Some others have had similar issues, others not. I guess it depends on what you are willing to do given the prices and the risk of invalidating the warranty on a whole train.
I will be looking into the model further to try and reduce the drag after I’ve heard back from Hornby. Fingers crossed I’ll be able to get her working properly
Lubricating the axels made a massive difference on mine. It hauls the full rake but sometimes struggles to pull away. Ill be interested to see yours after you add weight to the power car aswell
I’ll be doing an update soon. I’ve lubricated all the axles on all the coaches and added a bit of weight to the motor unit and needless to say she’s now almost perfect.
It would be great if Accurascale produced a set like this, I guess they’re too busy designing wagons most of the time, especially ones that most other manufacturers produce.
It would be nice to see I better model of these units produced but doing we will ever see it
@@fyfieldjunction Hornby have too many underdeveloped products and they are getting found out big time, dull plastic fantastic products on sale for mega money which is a joke, they need to wake up before they go under, their coaches are good to be fair and some of the wagons with NEM pockets, rather than listen to the unhappy customers they keep churning out this poor quality stuff, if Marklin, Fleischmann, Roco produced this train pack it would rock your world believe me, Hornby are so far behind it’s embarrassing now.
I believe that only one company has permission to make the Azuma.
Price issues aside, you’ve given very good ratings to a combined set of models which you’ve clearly demonstrated is not fit for purpose. If Hornby intended it to run as a 9 coach train yet it cannot so do, value for money would be generous at 1/10. Sorry to say, you need to send it back as it’s been mis-advertised under the Sale of Goods Act. Please don’t tamper with it meanwhile as you need to protect your warranty.
I was keen to see your video as I’d spotted a Facebook posting saying the motor can’t handle 9 coaches. Your video proves this is a design fault which Hornby must now correct.
Thanks for watching. I have contacted Hornby about the issue and will not do anything until I see what they say. The Facebook post was me btw.
Good honest review of a not so great product in my opinion, Hornby haven’t even designed a decent motorised roof fan yet so I doubt they will venture into the motorised pantograph area, the price of this set is ridiculous! It’s no way near the quality of the Bachmann Midland/Western Pullman set in any department! I take my hat off to you for spending your hard earned money on this set, I hope you get what ever issues there were sorted, thanks for sharing.
This set looks like a Railroad offering!
Thanks for watching. I have deduced that the issue is the coaches themselves causing far too much drag so will try and sort it if I can
@@fyfieldjunction To be fair there should be a power car at each end for the money! Those pantographs are made for pence and they’re flimsy and cheap like Hornby’s attitude, I hope Bachmann take on projects that include sets like this because they will be made very well indeed, I’m not sure if you have a Midland Pullman so if you get a chance to see how amazing the sets are, Bachmann started making them over 10 years ago with detailing that hasn’t really been surpassed to this day in my opinion, the price was reflective because the set was superb, I have a set and I’m seriously happy with it because it’s superior to anything Hornby has to offer.
Please let us know what if anything Hornby say or whether you do find that one or two of the coaches are not running freely. Hornby's new brand manager does claim that they respond to genuine problems.
I recall that I bought some Bachmann Thompson coaches for my brother a few years ago only to discover that the wheels were catching on the underside of the coach bodies, creating lots of drag.
I believe the main issue with drag on these as lack of lubrication. Previous class 800 models I’ve purchased have had lubricant applied to the axles of the coaches from the factory however that isn’t the case on these.
Great Review but terrible it wont run with full rake at the price
Thanks for watching. I will be doing my best to try and get the thing working properly and when I do I’ll make an update video.
It’s about time Hornby done two motors for there 800s and hsts especially at the prices they charged for. There just ripping people off. Obviously they did not test it with 9 coaches. They must thick or cluesless at Hornby 😂
You mentioned something about the controller you're using.
When it's in a 9 car consist, maybe another controller might help.
I believe a similar problem with Hornby's 2020 APT that due to only one NDM being motorised in the 14 car consist. It needs two motorised NDM.
The analogue controller I use is more than capable of providing enough power for locos. I only mention it because of the loud buzzing noise locos make when using it. Basically informing people that the buzzing isn’t a fault or issue or whatever with the locos motor but more just a standard feature of using this controller.
@fyfieldjunction without saying to much, what kind if controller is it?
I know some Hornby controllers can make a traun motor make a buzzing noise.
As stated before, for the 2020 APT, running a full car set needs two motorised motor (NDM) cars.
That Azuma definitely needs another motorised, not a dummy car.
It’s the standard silver Hornby train set controller I use. I very rarely run analogue as i only really use it for running in new models or for testing analogue models that I’m doing work on so I have no need of buying something that’s more expensive.
The APT was certainly an interesting one. As for this model I does seem like the issue is just too much friction on the coaches due to lack of lubrication. I’ll be doing an update video soon on the model once I’ve got it going properly.
@fyfieldjunction I've found something similar to a gaugemaster or a suitable CDA brand solves most noise problems. Ditto if it's DCC with a DCC controller/throttle.
Been eagerly waiting for this model to land since they announced it so to hear it is faulty and potentially not fit for purpose is very disappointing. Mine is yet to arrive and am keen to understand if I should cancel with the retailer. Do you have any further feedback or response from Hornby yet?
I haven’t heard anything as of yet but will let everyone know when I do an update video. The issue I’m hoping is easy to resolve as it just seems the coaches have too much drag. I’ll try oiling the axles and adding some extra weight to the motor unit for good measure. Love your vids btw mate and the new layout is looking excellent 👍
@@fyfieldjunction perfect, thanks mate, hopefully it’s an easy fix 😀
Just out of interest, have you ever had any 9 unit train running your layout before?
I have ran longer and heavy trains in this layout Before without issue. I even run two of my 5 car 800s together permanently now as a 10 without issue although that is with a motor unit at each end. The coaches on this new set do have a lot of drag to them when all together so I’ll look into reducing that if I can and I’ll add some more weight to the motor as well if possible.
@@fyfieldjunction One thing I would try is run it with the 5 car set first to see if the train slows down at any specific area(s). Gradually add/run with an extra coach, added one at a time, until it highlights any specific area of track that causes slowdowns or stoppages. Theoretically there should be a quantity of coaches when it starts to struggle. Other things to check of course is the gaps on the wheels.
I thought your video was really good, i bought the trainbow version of this and like it, i had a feeling it wouldn't be able to take the extra coaches, If you look back in the history of Hornby Remember the HST set where they put the motor in one of the power cars, well same problem add the extra coaches well its got no chance, Personally i have no idea why hornby brought out extra coaches pack for a train that can't take them, and to be honest for the price they can keep them, Overall after doing my own test nice train but a bit overpriced, Maybe hornby should have a chat with kato and see the N gauge version and that can pull far more,
Thanks for watching mate. The model definitely isn’t anywhere near as good as it should be for the money. The extra coach pack is required to make it a realistic length train. The 5 car set on its own wouldn’t be prototypical. A shame that out of the box the model wasn’t useable but luckily the fix was as simple as anything which is all documented in the update video of the model.
Why do the lights flicker cause some of my models do that aswell
If the lights are flicking it can be a variety of things. Power setting could be too low, dirty wheels or track or sometimes it’s just how the model reacts to the controller your using as there’s such a variety out there and they perform differently just like how different locos perform differently. In this case though the flickering lights was just the way the camera picks them up. In person they weren’t flickering and were nice and stable.
This could have been a nice 20 min vid. Some editing software needed for your next birthday?
It’s a 9 car set so it wasn’t going to be a short review. I know I didn’t look at all 9 coaches however that obviously wasn’t necessary as many of them are practically the same. I appreciate not everyone likes long reviews.
Words fail me!
Strange that it can’t put it but a 390 can pull a 9 car set
The coaches on the 390s have next to no drag on them though as they are a different design and the coaches don’t have pickups on them for interior lighting like on these. The pendolino mechanism is also completely different as it’s only single bogie drive with traction tyres as the motor unit is much lighter in weight compared to these.
Why no working pantographs,at the very least they should be metal.
I totally agree. There are far far cheaper and older models out there that have metal pantographs so no excuse really that Hornby haven’t done it on these especially with the latest price.
How can you give 5 out of 10 for performance when it doesn't move?
I admit I was quite generous their. I tried to take into consideration that when the model does run it runs very well. I have found that the issue is the coaches themselves causing too much drag so the motor unit itself isn’t at fault. I’ve tried all my other motorised class 800 units with the coaches from this set and none of them can shift them.
You don't even get a built in decoder????
I thought that too. For that money I would want a HM7000-21TXS
All in all…. Not too bad.
I was far too generous with this.
@markd8799 sarcasm?
Just got an email announcing this set, but when I saw the pictures and the price I thought: you must be f…ing kidding me!!! The details look like from a toy train, and no decoder or sound for this kind of money is a joke. And the loco not being able to pull the full consist? Wow, I don’t know who engineers this crap, but they probably found their diploma in a Cracker Jack box. After my last experience with Hornby products (total junk), I will not send another penny to them. Can’t wait to watch Sam’s review… 1:10
The price for these is indeed an absolute joke, especially for a model that doesn’t work correctly out of the box. I’ve just released an update on the model and it’s now working fine but obviously shouldn’t need to do any work to a brand new model.
@@fyfieldjunction When one considers that I paid $834 for a 8-car Marklin DB ICE 4 that has sound, multiple light functions, operating pantographs (up & down) and runs like a charm, I think Hornby is really screwing their customers over...
So disappointing. These issues have been far too common with Hornby products over the past 10-15 years. One would have thought that Hornby would have improved their products by now, and the prices they are asking these days just simply aren’t worth it..
Saved me money too. thats shocking. bad instructions, bad motor, even there intro video for the class is bad, it nearly falls of the track! Accurascale need to do one!
Definitely disappointing and terrible value. Lucky the problem ended up being about as simple as it could have been to which I documented and explained in an update video of the model.
SEND IT BACK MATE
Just released an update video and all that was needed to fix the thing was a bit of oil.
That is disgraceful, hope Hornby offer a refund. If not, loading the power car with lead weights should make a big difference.
I’ll be adding extra weight to the motor and I’ll put some lubricant on the axles of all the coaches as they are causing too much drag.
For the love of God……
Indeed.
5/10 for performance? How? It didn't pull its full rake. It should of worked straight out of the box for that price.
Another Hornby rip off.
I admit the ratings were a bit generous however, I did take into consideration that when the model did run originally without the coaches it ran very well.
You could've shortened the video by cutting the unnecessary parts out of the video.
Out of interest which parts would you say are unnecessary. I admit I do have a habit of rambling. I just want to ensure I don’t miss out on anything that people may want to know.
@fyfieldjunction the unboxing, for example. Maybe just show the box, the ID number & a quick part of what's inside.
Looks a very nice pack, good price for a 5 car unit, great detail, but think you flogged to death the expression " not too bad" over and over and over again, put me off watching the whole review, sorry but too many times repeating yourself, very monotonous, hope you managed to sort out the power problem, very bad on hornby that's for sure
I know I have a problem with rambling and repeating myself a lot.
@@fyfieldjunction you'll get better with time, I've done it too, when I've watched my own videos prior to publishing, it's not uncommon for me to re record 2 or 3 scenes, brain fog, nerves and just going blank play a big part, happens to us all, I've now started to write a script before recording, but I too need to improve, all the best.
Appreciate the feedback and advice. I do re record sections quite a lot although that’s normally because I end up muddling my words.
Just watched your vid, i feel you are too biased, probably cos you just dropped a monkey on a static display model, Hornby have been knocking out overpriced trash for years, its where the likes of Accurascale have risen to fame, they do proper r&d and then release a model that is what we want. Your scoring was far too generous, they sell it as a 9 car pack, whether its the coaches or the motor car thats not fit for purpose is beside the point, its not a working model out of the box. After buying the eurostar with the extra coaches and finding that did not run properly, i refuse to give hornby anymore of my money for inferior poor quality trains.
I do admit I was too generous with the ratings and I should have been more critical. When I do an update video on the model I will redo the ratings.
Are we missing something here? You waffleled on about this 9 car unit for 45 minutes and didn't even show the whole set running.
I couldn’t show the whole set running because as was clearly shown towards the end of the video the full length set isn’t capable of moving itself.
So Hornby is charging nearly £800 for something that's unfit for purpose?
Pretty much
Another absolute Hornby rip off.