I was in a really bad mental space when I went to see this in theatres, but it honestly helped a lot because it was so light-hearted, feelgood and just so out there. For that this movie holds a special place in my heart.
You have to remember, the Wonka in the original spent 20 years in isolation after some of his employees betrayed him by selling his recipes to his competitors.
@@RRRRRRAAAAAAA there’s two books not one so I wonder which one he read. And oof that makes it worse! even though he did watch the 1st movie and read one of the books, he still couldn’t keep the plot accurate to the original story
Hugh Grant has been open about how he hated playing the Oompa Loompa, finding the motion capture aspect to be tedious, but signed on because he has several children, and needed the money.
I didn't know that. I forgot this man has kids, I’ve never been able to see him past his romantic comedy roles outside of Cloud Atlas, but at least he's trying.
Wth the man has made a fortune with his older movies, he may have hated the motion capture, but he absolutely was not forced to sign into this for money. He could easily make other movies if he didn't want to be in this one
To your point of wonka feeling different. Its explained in the books and movies that wonka has had his secrets stolen and was betrayed multiple times by his friends and coworkers. Thats why he fires everyone and closed the factory.
Honestly this part of the books would've been worthy to watch since it actually was a canon conflict than whatever this weird "He's a wizard now!" vibe was....
I totally agree with the final point: as a fantasy musical, it's quite charming and fun. You just have to divorce it from any iteration of Willy Wonka and take it as an entirely separate and independent story. Do that, and it's quite enjoyable.
why would you need to do that? This is Willy Wonka before the isolation and betrayal. You speak without knowing what you’re talking about. Why? who raised you improperly?
@@LegendOfYuka”Why? Who raised you improperly?” I hope you’re joking cause thats straight up wild 💀 I see you’re other comments, and judging by that, i can tell you’re one of those people who turns every small thing personal for literally no reason. Not sure who you think was raised improperly here, but it seems like you’ve got your own issues to work on.
@@LegendOfYuka There are several things about this movie that still don't mesh with the other iterations of Willy Wonka. Not just the fact that he's optimistic. So if anyone's speaking without knowing what they're talking about, it's you.
@@guineapig0983 the fact u scoured through other comments put u in the same position as I. This comment specifically wasn’t too bad, I was jus tweaking, however the majority of the others hating on a genuinely good movie with a message that needs to be said did make me upset. Also, terrible analysis, it’s not that deep, it’s the internet. If you truly are offended by anything on here perhaps you shouldn’t be on it.
@@maryannclementiii-uw5pk It may not match the original/the 2000’s adaption or the book by different race’s, minor details (majority of things that are pointless nitpicking) but if you removed the title and his name wasn’t said at all, you would immediately assume that this was a story of how Willy Wonka, or atleast some iteration of it, before the trauma. And it makes no sense on how the original movie changed from the books drastically but was praised for if, while this one isn’t even trying to adapt the books, simply an origin story yet people are complaining. It’s one of those things where you’re trying to find the negatives of an adaptation of a franchise instead of appreciating it for what it is.
Fun fact: I had terrible food poisoning when I watched this in theatres, and every scene with any kind of eating made me feel incredibly ill. Then I went to sleep, and all I could think of was the chorus that went like “well there’s chocolate and there’s chocolate” on loop forever.
Lol something like that happend to me we were pumpkin carving and for some reason since that day anytime I think of pumpkin seeds I throw up including right now hope you feel better
Slugworth started sending in people to work for Wonka and steal his recipes. So Wonka fired all the employees and started using just umpaloopas instead. That is what caused his distrust
This was exactly what I was thinking. One reason or another, Wonka cut people out of his life due to distrust. It turned a once whimsical man into someone who lacks care for humans.
I love the filter you have that takes away the background track to avoid copywrite... in this particular instance it makes Wonka look like a complete insane person (i mean, beyond the norm), as he's just belting lyrics to no backup track.... like an obnoxious subway train rider.
Instead of having Wonka expose the other chocolate makers as criminals, he could have tormented and sabotaged them until they surrendered. Would have fit the vibe of Wilder better
@@jamescallanan2443doesn't even seem to come close because this makes it seem like Wonka just lived his mother and not his chocolate if that makes sense
Yes, but... They floated off and he's not sure if they will ever get down. Potentially they keep floating and die of lack of oxygen in the air or fall down in the middle of the sea with no one to rescue them 😮 And he doesn't care much, so pretty in line with the original Wonka to me. At least the ending.
Willy Wonka in the original movie was trying to find a kid that isn't selfish or would do something different then what he would do so they can own the company since he is getting old. And each time something bad happened to the kids you noticed that he warns them before they do it. they just don' t listen.
I mean kids aren’t well known for their restraint and decision making, you wouldn’t trust a kid to drive down and pickup your dry cleaning from across town.
At the same time, it really feels like those kids' personalities were suspiciously geared toward the very specific tortures that befell them. I think the Tim Burton version even makes a joke about that. I have no idea how you would orchestrate it this way, but it almost feels like he really wanted those first four kids to find their tickets. Any grouping of kids might include someone like Veruca or Augustus, but Mike and Violet feel very specific to the things they were going to wind up seeing on their tour. I haven't read the books yet so I don't know if this is ever addressed, but my head canon for the movie is that those first kids were somehow planned and only Charlie was truly random. My theory is that Wonka wanted a kid he could trust, but his trust is so shaken by past betrayals that he felt the need to hammer in for whatever kid got the fifth ticket that horrible things might happen to them if they don't behave. And considering Charlie nearly dies in the Gene Wilder movie, I imagine that message was well-received. I generally find most fan theories exhaustingly stupid, but I'm honestly kind of proud of this one. I'm sure when I read the books, I'll find something in there that negates it. But for the Gene Wilder movie at least, in which he seems completely unsurprised whenever they disregard his apathetic and/or sarcastic warnings, I think it holds water. At the very least, I think you could make an alternate theory that he waited to see who found the tickets and then intentionally set traps based on the personality traits they showed in their interviews to test whether they could be good enough to overcome their impulses. That version of the theory might actually work better, even if it means he had to invent a new kind of gum in the span of like a week.
I kinda think his personality fits. Like he was so optimistic about life, and then he realizes how selfish and gluttonous kids are, and gets screwed over by employees then spends several years locked in his factory with just himself and the Oompa Loompas. He has many, many years to become jaded and to realize how much the world sucks.
1) Wonka didn’t care for the bratty kids because they were spoiled and selfish, which it why he was upset with Charlie in the end but changed attitude when Charlie gave up the gobstopper. Since Charlie showed character he gave him everything. We was just going to have the kids change their ways after they were all fixed up because he knew they were going to be ok. 2) This is a wonka that hasn’t experienced actual business yet. And business can change a person, especially when it is successful.
@@the_very_cozy_burrito to be fair they put this option on the table like it's not the first time they killed nor the first time they thought this was sweet irony.
I think he turned dark because someone betrayed him or something, in the Charlie movie, he turned people away because they took his recipes. I’m not sure about the first one, but that was the lore I kept
Also, in James and the Giant Peach (The Book), The setting is a seaside town with just a random whimsical man there and the peach also just casually rolls through a chocolate factory, so its safe to assume that those two books are in the same universe, and I love how this movie claims it supports the Roald Dahl Connected universe and then actually follows through with the details
Can we really call this a Wonka origin story when he was already Wonka at the beginning? He already had special and magical chocolate. It should've been him actually becoming Wonka.
Oh Wonka is like a "Europe Land" amusement park set 😂 It's like Britain-France-Germany-Czech Republic country. But some people explicably speak with American accents. Even when their mum is... Irish? maybe? 😂😂 Love it!
I wish they would have offered cameos to the actors who played the kids in the original. All of them except for Violet are still alive today so it would have been a thoughtful tribute
@@BigSplenda1885 is he? I haven’t heard much about him, other than he’s the only one of them who stayed in the acting business…Charlie’s a pet vet now!
In the original Willy wonka, wonka was like that because of people trying to steal his recipes hence why he was grumpy a lot while Timothee’s version was the one who found life as joy and where nobody would go against him just for chocolates
@@barbiqueareashe’s obviously not going to be evil, they also made the Maleficent movies with a redeemable Maleficent, it’s going to be a new trend of live action anti-hero “villain” movies
Exactly and to be fair to this movie they do show Wonka had a habit of being too trusting which get's him into trouble more than once. It just was'nt so bad he could'nt get out of it, but it is easy to imagine he hired the wrong people constantly and paid for it so much it turned him cynical.
Except we do know what happened in between. It's very weird that Alex didn't mention it at all but in the movie (and the book as some people are saying) Wonka was betrayed greatly by his employees and spent years in isolation. That's what caused the character change
I think an in between movie of him losing those he cares about and him becoming closed off and focused solely on his passion for chocolate would be perfect
I relate so hard to the comment about drinking. I once got pulled over on the way home from work and the cop made me get out of the car and asked if I had been drinking (not sure why, I was just going 5 MPH over). I told him no I was coming home from work. He later asked me again if I had been drinking and I told him I don’t drink. He looked at me like I was insane. I’ve never had alcohol and people straight up do not believe me lol
0:24 the original guy who played Willy Wonka, did not want any sequels or prequel, but the minute he died, they created a prequel and I just think that’s wrong
I LOVE THIS MOVIE IT HIT THE KID IN ME PERFECTLY. I loved the songs, I loved how the bad guys sang and the side characters sang . The villains were comically corrupt. And timothy did such a good job as wonka he made the magic feel magical if that makes sense 😂 My favorite movie of all time is Annie and this gave me those vibes.
lol, I was rather content with Wonka's background story being his strict dentist father didnt let him have chocolate and then just levitated his house away across the world
Police Chief: Finding Wonka is our top priority. Police: Are you sure? Shouldn't we be looking into all those unsolved murders? Police chief: No, this is our top priority Easily the best joke in the movie 😂
The portrayal of Slugworth, Prodnose and Ficklegruber in this movie made me think of the three evil farmers from Fantastic Mr. Fox, another Dahl book which got a flawless movie adaptation and one which I really loved
I think the reason for all the remakes, sequels, and prequels is because they either can’t think of new material that hasn’t been done already, or because the people at the top don’t want to take the risk funding it. For them it’s easier to create a story around something already made and it looks like guaranteed money from those who loved the original will most likely come see it. Meaning there is much less risk, also they can spend less on filming it to get more profits
Also nepotism,It's rare now to find new faces that are not related to someone already stablished,there is no pure talent anymore so Its always the same ideas coming from the same people funding their grand children's projects guaranteeing that they appear in an already known tittle.
It's all about risk, yeah. Movies nowadays cost too much to produce, so it's difficult to break even, and relying on preexisting IP instead of creating new ones is safer.
I mean the numbers show that people go to see things they’re familiar with. Smaller and indie studios will be willing to take risks on smaller budgets but if hundreds of millions are going into a movie it’s just not going to be risky, otherwise they would run out of money very quickly. It’s not that deep.
It's really sad how the quality of most movies have gone down. Is it just me or does if seem like the 2020's decade movies are poorly written or just sequels and prequels? Oppenheimer was absolutely amazing. Barbie was good, but I felt like something was missing.
i do want to point out that some stuff get super overly hyped and they want to please those and bring in the new gen to love what we had years ago. 80% of the time it just doesn't do well. not to mention a lot of fans or other people beg so badly for something to add to the story and a lot of times it doesn't need it. i don't always mind it, but i would have prefer it long ago or it make sense. Wonka was fine, but some was questionable because it doesn't add up and i cant figure out which one it can go with. i didn't mind the original and the one with tim burtin.
I was so shocked when that one chocolate bar at the end that he had since childhood lasted with him and didn't taste stale or anything from all the years. I can say it was the whimsical magic side too I guess.
Considering all the other things that happened in the movie that defied logic (my favourite one being that people didn't care about eating bugs in their chocolate), this is a pretty small thing.
On screen: Snow capped mountains in the background and a truck that says "Moreau & Fils" (French for Sons). Alex's narration: "(...)he's just gotten off the boat in some ambiguous UK London-esque town." Granted, it's a minor nitpick, but given that's what we do here, it's worth saying the setting is unambiguously not London-esque.
The og movie and book was showing how he moved far away from his childish wonder and the reason he made chocolate and candies in the first place (kinda like how wonka portrays him and his origins) the reason he’s so different and detached in the og movie is the whole point of his character in pretty much all the movies and especially in Charlie and the glass elevator 👍he’s a man who lost his wonder and is trying to find someone to replace him who has that same spark he once did for making candy and chocolate
The sign is pointed to and the cop holds out a hand for the fine. Whether he understood it or saw the number and knew it must be a fine for daydreaming after the guy says "no daydreaming" and points at it, or whether they forgot he couldn't read, i dunno
The officer says "no daydreaming" so Wonka never needs to read it. During the song if you keep count of the coins he has, he should have 6 at that point. The lady with the baby only takes 1, and Wonka loses the last. This means he understood what the officer meant, but still couldn't read the sign as he paid 4 instead of 3.
So taking the movie as its own work separate from the original Willie wonka, this is my favorite movie of the past five years. It was fantastical and fun in a way I haven’t seen in a long time
HH is how you get kids interested in a subject. Imagine a maths show that presents it in the form of maths duels, which actually happened, while teaching kids more advanced calculus.
Roald dahl actually didn't like willy wonka and the chocolate factory. Wonka isn't supposed to be that uncanny. Charlie and the chocolate factory is much closer to the book in characterization
I still found the prequel better than rubbish tom and jerry willy wonka and the chocolate factory cartoon version because at least in this one slugworth had his own actual dong rather than singing veruca's song
"This is how people react when I say I have never drank alcohol before." THANK you. I mean, my friends know and respect this, which is why we are friends, but everyone in college said "why" and when you're 30+ they look at you like you've never had fun in your life.
The most shocking thing about this movie was actually how good it was. Me and my little sister went to see it together during a school merit trip to hate-watch it because we expected it to be bad, but we genuinely enjoyed it. The songs gave me very whimsical, Mary-Poppins esque vibes, and I actually almost cried when Noodle reunited with her mother (which very few movies have been able to do to me). Also I love it how "Wonka and his fellow servants defy their master to sell drugs while evading the police and exposing the Mafia" is a somewhat accurate summary of the movie XD
After watching it for a few times, this movie feels isn't necessarily supposed to be a prequel (even if it was advertised as so) but rather a love letter to the idea of Wonka that most have in their heads. Even knowing how dark the books and OG movies are I still have this idea of the whimsy of Wonka, and I think the movie captured that idea perfectly. The setting of a young Wonka lends to this because it's supposed to be before he becomes recluse and cynical and completely beaten down by the world, while exploring in part how much of a toll it starts to take on him throughout the movie. This movie definitely should not be handcuffed to the other works but rather tied loosely to the idea, whimsy, and imagination of Wonka and the impact of society therein. But that's just how I feel 😁
but since the whole world around him is weird, then him being weird doesnt make much sense. he no longer stands out as much and tehres a lot of stuff that happens in this movie that dont make sense and theres no foreshadowing as to what mkaes him become insane and cynical
The problem with these prequel movies is that as a completely stand alone movies they’re fine, but the fact that they’re latched onto an already existing story makes any achievement they make feel somewhat hollow as it doesn’t quite match with the original story that it’s supposedly leading up to
OH YEAH. A kid is so gonna choose the gene wilder version over this version EVERYTIME. The only people I’ve ever met who like the gene wilder version are full grown adults. And sadly buddy this movie and the the original are kids movies. Not really made for you anymore bud
Wonka gives me horror movie villain origin story in this thanks to the line delivery, which actually makes sense considering the child ending deathtrap of a factory he ends up with
I absolutely loved this movie, it was so different than I thought it would be, but in a good way. I thought making Willy Wonka more friendly and optimistic was a good choice. He's just starting out, so it makes sense. I also liked the part about him not being able to read because at the end when he reads the note from his mom, he wouldn't have known what she said if Noodle hadn't have taught him
It was a fun watch for me as well. Just a movie you bring a girl to the date with. I mean, as long as I don't consider it a prequel to the other movies, just it's own thing. Then it works.
Wonka never went out of his way to punish any of the children in the OG. They punished themselves by being greedy and stupid and ignoring the clearly laid out rules and warnings. He just didn't baby them or feel all that sorry for them when their stupidity/greed INDEED landed them in hot chocolate.
Especially bc all of the other kids besides Charlie had their parents pay their way into the Factory. They had no respect for rules bc of how their parents had taught them that they’re above them.
I saw it in theatres with my friend, and I will admit I loved this movie because I’m a nostalgic little sap and nearly cried hearing ‘Pure Imagination’
@@strobo308i saw it with my grandma too! she wanted to watch it with me and my brother and since we didn’t wanna make her sad, we went. i thought it would be okay, but ended up loving it! music was nice and the vintage style was very appealing
I truly don’t understand the huge focus on Noodle’s character development and story arc, when this is a Wonka origin story. The movie literally could have been called Wonka & Noodle. I felt like we could have used that time to explore how he collected all of his exotic ingredients and all the unexplained magic.
I mean unlike a lot of other movie trailers hiding the fact they were musicals. The last 2 Charlie and the Chocolate factory movies are arguably musicals. I agree this is like full blown musical shenanigans with choreographed dance numbers. But it'd be surprising if it had no songs. I mean even the tim burtin one has a bunch of songs lol
@@endees1317 I loved reading the Roald Dahl books. Charlie and the Chocolate factory is totes a good read, the Glass Elevator the following book was pretty out there. My fav book of his was BFG, but The Witches is also pretty awesome. :)
@whimai412 oh same! I think Matilda was probably my favourite, but Charlie was a close second. Tbh though, the Tim Burton movie is my favourite Charlie movie lol - I love how he brings in the darker aspects of the book to the front.
As the video shows the scene of the dude drowning in the chocolate river, an ad pops up and says, "My skin has been so much smoother, so much more hydrated" Who knew chocolate was such a wonderful skin product
The best part of Wonka was the ending... where they recycled musicals from the original and had him in his factory. It's almost as if he belonged in his own little world of magic instead of forcing whimsy on a mundane world.
tbh we really didnt need this film but i really enjoyed it. it kept this fun whimsical feeling the og willy wonka film had and thats why i liked it sm cuz it wasnt a cut out of the 2005 charlie and the chocolate factory film which was really creepy (cuz of tim burton) and it reminded me so much of paddington
in the general sense, sure yeah, a film like this isn’t needed. but when you put into context how the film industry is oversaturated with more and more movies that are bleak in atmosphere, a whimsical, heartwarming, and feel good positive movie like this is absolutely needed, especially when you treat it as escapism from current events. it’s also made by paul king, who was the director for paddington 1 and 2. he’s really good at making movies that just makes you happy, honestly.
I also really liked it. To me, adults who complain too much about it are just too nitpicky and obnoxious (like the parents in the original movie). This movie is fun and heartwarming and colorful, which is a really nice change with all the stuff that is being released lately in the cinemas.
With how much he experiments with chocolate, I can imagine he's got a few screws loose from all of those combos. I forget that he talks about how he always wanted to be a magician. Maybe in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, he was having a mid-life crisis? Being a witness to a mid-life crisis, I can tell you, people do some messed up sheit.
Wonka set up the tour to exploit the weakness of each kid so he could figure out which kids would still do the right thing by not betraying him. He knew the kids weren't in danger, Augustus wasn't under the chocolate long enough to drown, Violet ate a product he designed specifically to appeal her her wants, Mike got shrunk with another specially made device he knew he could reverse, and Veruka only ever got sent to a garbage heap which is mostly chocolate. The closest we see to real danger is Charlie and Grandpa Joe because of the lemonade, but even there the exhaust fans generated zero air disturbance which they should have given their size and purpose, they were likely perfectly safe and intended just to give an impression of danger.
Except the reason Wonka sent out the golden tickets was to find an heir. And the plan was to get to know the kids and pick his favorite, it just mostly happened to be luck that they fell victim to their vices.
@@steveomac385 outside of the chocolate room and inventing room, the nut room and TV rooms were chosen by Mr. Salt and Mike respectively. He was seeing if the kids would actually behave
I think now a days, people just want to hate on movies. I mean i understand, bc lots of movies now are pretty rubbish, but that doesnt mean we have to hate on good ones. I feel like Alex is taking the movie about litteral magic, for children, a bit too seriously. If this movie came out in the mid 2010s, then this movie would be beloved. Its just bc its popular to hate on stuff now 🤷♂️
It's good on its own but fans of willy Wonka expected more of a sinister side of Wonka, I loved 2005 Wonka the best, he's hot, charming and weird and kinda... Yes sinister. While this Wonka is naive and child like which is fine ig
@@RyuKyu.77 One cannot forget this is also before his employees sold his recipes and betrayed him. He probably became more serious like that along the way.
This was a feelgood, holiday film. I came in with mixed expectations, and was very pleasantly surprised. It was well cast, and there was a fantastic rendition of "Pure Imagination."
Same. Even though he was creepy, but not as creepy as Johnny, he had a certain charm that you can't ignore. I can't believe it's been 8 years since this man died, but at least he's reunited with his wife, Gilda Radner.
What’s crazy is in the last movie we got a backstory. His dad was a dentist that hated him and he lived in the middle of no where and that backstory was definitely better if one was ever needed
It's funny how between the Two Major Willy Wonka movies after the original. You have the Tim Burton which forgot any sense of whimsy and then you have this that loses any sense of edge. When the combination of whimsy and edge is what made the original a classic.
There have been comments made about making a sequel to this that is darker and showcases how Willy eventually becomes the more edged character in the first movie.
Not only that but you have to kind of analyze the Wonkas too. As much as I love Johnny Depp his Wonka was horrible. It was so stale & stiff as compared to Wilder's who was charismatic & charming as well as slightly terrifying lol. Depp's felt like a visual "shock factor" while Wilder's was psychological.
I dont see this as a backstory or explanation for previous movies' willy wonka, but just a standalone story about willy wonka. I thought it was a bit wierd how a lot of people kept complaining about how it contradicted the lore of the first movie when it clearly wasnt meant to be a prequel to that movie .
I mean...everything we had about willy wonka, was him as this big well established famous chocolate maker in his 40s. So when a movie drops about a 20 something, poor, starting to make chocolate Willy wonka...Is a pretty fair assessment to think it's a prequel/ backstory to the 40 year old character, isn't it?
Well then don't call it a Willy Wonka movie🙄 Willy Wonka isn't a series about people or something it's a person, a character this movie hasn't got the character of Willy Wonka, it's not about Roald Dahl's world or anything else. They shouldn't have called it ''Willy Wonka'' because it's not Willy Wonka
I totally get why young wonka was happy and older wonka hates the world. Use to be super chill and happy then a decade in customer service has turned me into dr house “ everybody lies!!” 😂😂😂
@@scottwesner9362 You can get some at Aldi if you have any near you; I think it’s $1, the higher grade stuff is in special chocolate stores around big cities.
Im not much of a chocolate fan (also cant have it anymore so have become slightly more of a fan lol) belgian chocolate was 200% up there with favourites
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PLEASE DO A VIDEO ABOUT "SPIRIT: STALLION OF THE CIMARRON" or "RISE OF THE GUARDIANS"!!! 😭💔🔥
You are right, it’s a pretty weird movie, but it’s good
I love how Alex’s songs are actually good joke songs like he’s actually quite good at it
Agree😄
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Yea am I the only one that would like a full version 😅❤
Daniel Thrasher has new competition
Absolutely. It caught me off guard that he referenced how the English pronounce an “R” in phrases like “law-abiding”.
I was in a really bad mental space when I went to see this in theatres, but it honestly helped a lot because it was so light-hearted, feelgood and just so out there. For that this movie holds a special place in my heart.
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Yeah, this movie had a lot of charm to it. I think it will be one of those movies that is looked fondly upon in gen A's current childhood.
I laughed until I cried and then I couldn’t stop crying haha. But it was a good cry and a great story imo.
Hope you are doing better now, I wish you the best and stay safe.
yeah it was a nice feel good movie
You have to remember, the Wonka in the original spent 20 years in isolation after some of his employees betrayed him by selling his recipes to his competitors.
I wonder where the father in his past is that a dentist who hates candy and that lead to him running away and built his own candy factory
@@majesticgothitelle1802I swear the movie makers didn’t read either of the Wonka books nor watch the other movies
@@cc-terfayPaul had read the book and watched gene’s movie, I believe.
@@RRRRRRAAAAAAA there’s two books not one so I wonder which one he read.
And oof that makes it worse! even though he did watch the 1st movie and read one of the books, he still couldn’t keep the plot accurate to the original story
@@majesticgothitelle1802 That was a completely different Wonka. He doesn't exist in this universe.
Hugh Grant has been open about how he hated playing the Oompa Loompa, finding the motion capture aspect to be tedious, but signed on because he has several children, and needed the money.
I didn't know that. I forgot this man has kids, I’ve never been able to see him past his romantic comedy roles outside of Cloud Atlas, but at least he's trying.
Wth the man has made a fortune with his older movies, he may have hated the motion capture, but he absolutely was not forced to sign into this for money. He could easily make other movies if he didn't want to be in this one
@@kamsismith I only know the guy from an old tragic gay movie 💀 seeing him as an oompa loompa was very weird lol
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That explains him being Benoit Blanc's roomie...
(spoilers, I guess?)
To your point of wonka feeling different. Its explained in the books and movies that wonka has had his secrets stolen and was betrayed multiple times by his friends and coworkers. Thats why he fires everyone and closed the factory.
Then isolates himself for decades.
Relatable
Honestly this part of the books would've been worthy to watch since it actually was a canon conflict than whatever this weird "He's a wizard now!" vibe was....
Same here
@@SnowieShiba I would've killed to see this silly Willy get betrayed multiple times and completely shut down, become overly paranoid and isolated. :D
I totally agree with the final point: as a fantasy musical, it's quite charming and fun. You just have to divorce it from any iteration of Willy Wonka and take it as an entirely separate and independent story. Do that, and it's quite enjoyable.
why would you need to do that? This is Willy Wonka before the isolation and betrayal. You speak without knowing what you’re talking about. Why? who raised you improperly?
@@LegendOfYuka”Why? Who raised you improperly?” I hope you’re joking cause thats straight up wild 💀
I see you’re other comments, and judging by that, i can tell you’re one of those people who turns every small thing personal for literally no reason. Not sure who you think was raised improperly here, but it seems like you’ve got your own issues to work on.
@@LegendOfYuka There are several things about this movie that still don't mesh with the other iterations of Willy Wonka. Not just the fact that he's optimistic. So if anyone's speaking without knowing what they're talking about, it's you.
@@guineapig0983 the fact u scoured through other comments put u in the same position as I. This comment specifically wasn’t too bad, I was jus tweaking, however the majority of the others hating on a genuinely good movie with a message that needs to be said did make me upset. Also, terrible analysis, it’s not that deep, it’s the internet. If you truly are offended by anything on here perhaps you shouldn’t be on it.
@@maryannclementiii-uw5pk It may not match the original/the 2000’s adaption or the book by different race’s, minor details (majority of things that are pointless nitpicking) but if you removed the title and his name wasn’t said at all, you would immediately assume that this was a story of how Willy Wonka, or atleast some iteration of it, before the trauma. And it makes no sense on how the original movie changed from the books drastically but was praised for if, while this one isn’t even trying to adapt the books, simply an origin story yet people are complaining. It’s one of those things where you’re trying to find the negatives of an adaptation of a franchise instead of appreciating it for what it is.
Fun fact: I had terrible food poisoning when I watched this in theatres, and every scene with any kind of eating made me feel incredibly ill. Then I went to sleep, and all I could think of was the chorus that went like “well there’s chocolate and there’s chocolate” on loop forever.
This sounds so fun lol. Hope youre feeling better.
Hope your feeling better!
LMAOO
Lol something like that happend to me we were pumpkin carving and for some reason since that day anytime I think of pumpkin seeds I throw up including right now hope you feel better
I'm here because I've been thinking of that song on loop for the last few weeks :/
Slugworth started sending in people to work for Wonka and steal his recipes. So Wonka fired all the employees and started using just umpaloopas instead. That is what caused his distrust
This was exactly what I was thinking. One reason or another, Wonka cut people out of his life due to distrust. It turned a once whimsical man into someone who lacks care for humans.
Sucks this movie sent slugworth to jail so no way that can happen
Which doesn't fit this canon at all.
@@meshadow4908 he not in jail forever. He can get out in months to years and start over again
@nattynema well a life time of crime. And who would trust him to build his buisness back up
I love the filter you have that takes away the background track to avoid copywrite... in this particular instance it makes Wonka look like a complete insane person (i mean, beyond the norm), as he's just belting lyrics to no backup track.... like an obnoxious subway train rider.
😂😂😂😂😂
I thought he was putting it through Adobe Enhance, but then I realized that the singing is just really autotuned.
I mean it’s Wonka, what did you expect?
Instead of having Wonka expose the other chocolate makers as criminals, he could have tormented and sabotaged them until they surrendered. Would have fit the vibe of Wilder better
But they weren't trying to make a mini wilder lol
@gnat4999 Instead, they made a prequel character that doesn't feel like the original
@@jamescallanan2443doesn't even seem to come close because this makes it seem like Wonka just lived his mother and not his chocolate if that makes sense
Yes, but... They floated off and he's not sure if they will ever get down. Potentially they keep floating and die of lack of oxygen in the air or fall down in the middle of the sea with no one to rescue them 😮 And he doesn't care much, so pretty in line with the original Wonka to me. At least the ending.
@@Antonio-ys5zdyou guys are dumb this movie has nothing to do with that old version
Willy Wonka in the original movie was trying to find a kid that isn't selfish or would do something different then what he would do so they can own the company since he is getting old. And each time something bad happened to the kids you noticed that he warns them before they do it. they just don' t listen.
EXACTLY
I mean kids aren’t well known for their restraint and decision making, you wouldn’t trust a kid to drive down and pickup your dry cleaning from across town.
“Stop don’t comeback”
At the same time, it really feels like those kids' personalities were suspiciously geared toward the very specific tortures that befell them. I think the Tim Burton version even makes a joke about that. I have no idea how you would orchestrate it this way, but it almost feels like he really wanted those first four kids to find their tickets. Any grouping of kids might include someone like Veruca or Augustus, but Mike and Violet feel very specific to the things they were going to wind up seeing on their tour.
I haven't read the books yet so I don't know if this is ever addressed, but my head canon for the movie is that those first kids were somehow planned and only Charlie was truly random. My theory is that Wonka wanted a kid he could trust, but his trust is so shaken by past betrayals that he felt the need to hammer in for whatever kid got the fifth ticket that horrible things might happen to them if they don't behave. And considering Charlie nearly dies in the Gene Wilder movie, I imagine that message was well-received.
I generally find most fan theories exhaustingly stupid, but I'm honestly kind of proud of this one. I'm sure when I read the books, I'll find something in there that negates it. But for the Gene Wilder movie at least, in which he seems completely unsurprised whenever they disregard his apathetic and/or sarcastic warnings, I think it holds water. At the very least, I think you could make an alternate theory that he waited to see who found the tickets and then intentionally set traps based on the personality traits they showed in their interviews to test whether they could be good enough to overcome their impulses. That version of the theory might actually work better, even if it means he had to invent a new kind of gum in the span of like a week.
I looked away from the screen and GENUINELY thought Alex was Timothee singing a REAL song ( 2:15 )
Me too!
I kinda think his personality fits. Like he was so optimistic about life, and then he realizes how selfish and gluttonous kids are, and gets screwed over by employees then spends several years locked in his factory with just himself and the Oompa Loompas. He has many, many years to become jaded and to realize how much the world sucks.
That's gonna make for an interesting sequel, at least.
Wow, he's literally me
Exactly lol he's got like 40 years to get jaded
😂😂😂@@mishynaofficial
@@mishynaofficial you think that the world was meant to be this way
My favorite part is definitely "Oh...oh...Oh...Ooh..oh-" Like that was so unnecessarily needed.
Wut 😂 Heck of an oxymoron right there
When was that
@@Lucyyyyyy23 When Wonka was looking at the small print
it was funny
It actually made me laugh.
1) Wonka didn’t care for the bratty kids because they were spoiled and selfish, which it why he was upset with Charlie in the end but changed attitude when Charlie gave up the gobstopper. Since Charlie showed character he gave him everything. We was just going to have the kids change their ways after they were all fixed up because he knew they were going to be ok.
2) This is a wonka that hasn’t experienced actual business yet. And business can change a person, especially when it is successful.
The cartel was so ok with killing wonka in the chocolate that you wonder how many bodies are in that chocolate Willy feeds to people in the end.
That scene when they all eat that chocolate was so gross 🤢
To be fair they tried to kill him like three times before, im pretty sure they were just sick of the guy at that point
@@lujan1999-4 ya it was.
@@the_very_cozy_burrito to be fair they put this option on the table like it's not the first time they killed nor the first time they thought this was sweet irony.
Also its watered down chocolate, so it can't taste good either right?
I think he turned dark because someone betrayed him or something, in the Charlie movie, he turned people away because they took his recipes. I’m not sure about the first one, but that was the lore I kept
In case of doubt, always refer to the Charlie movie. It was incredibly faithful to the book.
Roald Dahl in general wrote dark kids books.
@@CuteHimboI'd say the Gene Wilder movie was a far better movie, but the Charlie movie was more accurate to the book
@@skyraider87 Meh, I liked the Charlie movie a lot more personally.
I know right
Also, in James and the Giant Peach (The Book), The setting is a seaside town with just a random whimsical man there and the peach also just casually rolls through a chocolate factory, so its safe to assume that those two books are in the same universe, and I love how this movie claims it supports the Roald Dahl Connected universe and then actually follows through with the details
Help. Police. Murder.
One of my favorite bits in that movie, Gene is pure magic and no one can match that.
Can we really call this a Wonka origin story when he was already Wonka at the beginning? He already had special and magical chocolate. It should've been him actually becoming Wonka.
That would just be his birth then. And he may have had the candy but he didn’t have the most famous part: the chocolate factory.
Yeah, like his parents aren't even in the movie. They could have done something interesting with them.
He was already gifted. That was boring.
@@cristalblackstar8177he literally mentions he spent 7 years perfecting his chocolate making skills, he ain’t gifted, he just trained super hard
@@cristalblackstar8177 he spent years perfecting his chocolate. That could've been something
Oh Wonka is like a "Europe Land" amusement park set 😂 It's like Britain-France-Germany-Czech Republic country. But some people explicably speak with American accents. Even when their mum is... Irish? maybe? 😂😂 Love it!
I wish they would have offered cameos to the actors who played the kids in the original. All of them except for Violet are still alive today so it would have been a thoughtful tribute
what happened to violet?
@hana2926 she turned violet
@@swra09 she died of pneumonia awhile back
At least Charlie for sure… the guy who played Mike Teavee is a pretty annoying guy now lol
@@BigSplenda1885 is he? I haven’t heard much about him, other than he’s the only one of them who stayed in the acting business…Charlie’s a pet vet now!
In the original Willy wonka, wonka was like that because of people trying to steal his recipes hence why he was grumpy a lot while Timothee’s version was the one who found life as joy and where nobody would go against him just for chocolates
Kind of like Emma Stone's Cruella. Although I can't fathom how she turns evil. I guess we will have to find that out in the sequel.
I know r
@@barbiqueareashe’s obviously not going to be evil, they also made the Maleficent movies with a redeemable Maleficent, it’s going to be a new trend of live action anti-hero “villain” movies
Exactly and to be fair to this movie they do show Wonka had a habit of being too trusting which get's him into trouble more than once. It just was'nt so bad he could'nt get out of it, but it is easy to imagine he hired the wrong people constantly and paid for it so much it turned him cynical.
I think it's implied he made the chocolate machine, like it's shown he's an inventor of complex machinery with the washing machine
“Who’s up Wonkin they Willys?”
Best meme that ever came from this franchise 😂🤷♂️
Lmaoooooo
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physically laughed out loud reading this
This is the kind of prequel that is jarring enough from the original that it requires a sequel to bridge the gap, and explain the transition.
Maybe that was the point. Allow for a sequel to the prequel which also happens to be a prequel.
Except we do know what happened in between. It's very weird that Alex didn't mention it at all but in the movie (and the book as some people are saying) Wonka was betrayed greatly by his employees and spent years in isolation. That's what caused the character change
@@rayanvij3457that’s like how despicable me had a prequel called minions and then a sequel to the prequel called minions rise of gru
@@caitlingill Exactly.
@@shawn.spenceralso the world became a little less...shiny over time
I think an in between movie of him losing those he cares about and him becoming closed off and focused solely on his passion for chocolate would be perfect
I relate so hard to the comment about drinking. I once got pulled over on the way home from work and the cop made me get out of the car and asked if I had been drinking (not sure why, I was just going 5 MPH over). I told him no I was coming home from work. He later asked me again if I had been drinking and I told him I don’t drink. He looked at me like I was insane.
I’ve never had alcohol and people straight up do not believe me lol
sometimes cops are just looking to fuck shit up. Not even joking.
I also never drink any alcohol
My response would've been ok give me a bottle of alcohol and then I'll pour it out right in front of you to show you how much I hate the crap.
Same here, that and other lifestyle choices people just think I'm lying.
i love how he made a song catchier than a disney song lol.
0:24 the original guy who played Willy Wonka, did not want any sequels or prequel, but the minute he died, they created a prequel and I just think that’s wrong
"WHAT, YOU'VE NEVER HAD CHOCOLATE!?!?" Wonka said calmly
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Still no
@@kirstym. My favorite line XD
@@KATIE-or2tc lol mine too he looks so flabbergasted
@@kirstym. Literally 🤣
Even when Noodle says that line, she looks like she's an unbothered queen
"Eldritch murder lemonade" has entered my personal lexicon.
dont forget " manic incubus dream boy"
"I yearn for the rectangle pizza..."
I LOVE THIS MOVIE IT HIT THE KID IN ME PERFECTLY. I loved the songs, I loved how the bad guys sang and the side characters sang . The villains were comically corrupt. And timothy did such a good job as wonka he made the magic feel magical if that makes sense 😂
My favorite movie of all time is Annie and this gave me those vibes.
I like how everyone in this world has the weirdest name and Noodle's mom's name is just "Dorothy Smith"
NO FR AND I WAS SO ANNOYED WE NEVER FOUND OUT NOODLE'S REAL NAME EITHER 😭😭😭
@@sonicsilliesit’s Matilda/nsrs
lol, I was rather content with Wonka's background story being his strict dentist father didnt let him have chocolate and then just levitated his house away across the world
Lol, I was always so confused by that scene. Like I know that the movies are whimsical and weird, but how the heck is his entire house just gone
that backstory makes sense why wonka was so weird. but his dad moving with his entire house was wwiilldddd 🤣🤣
@@emphoenixcat1110 I loved that scene. It made no sense, but it was fucking funny as shit.
This backstory and the betrayal of his employees made more sense on why he's such a sociopath
some people say it's more like a metaphor that his dad shut him off forever and he's gonna be absent in his life@@emphoenixcat1110
Every time Alex breaks out into song, I experience pure joy. It’s so funny 💀
Police Chief: Finding Wonka is our top priority.
Police: Are you sure? Shouldn't we be looking into all those unsolved murders?
Police chief: No, this is our top priority
Easily the best joke in the movie 😂
Fr it sound like normal cops 😊 (joking but- 13 HOURs TO CALL tHEM MIsSING?)
15:28 “thanks maleficent!” IKR! Now that’s every prequel lolz
The portrayal of Slugworth, Prodnose and Ficklegruber in this movie made me think of the three evil farmers from Fantastic Mr. Fox, another Dahl book which got a flawless movie adaptation and one which I really loved
I think the reason for all the remakes, sequels, and prequels is because they either can’t think of new material that hasn’t been done already, or because the people at the top don’t want to take the risk funding it. For them it’s easier to create a story around something already made and it looks like guaranteed money from those who loved the original will most likely come see it. Meaning there is much less risk, also they can spend less on filming it to get more profits
Also nepotism,It's rare now to find new faces that are not related to someone already stablished,there is no pure talent anymore so Its always the same ideas coming from the same people funding their grand children's projects guaranteeing that they appear in an already known tittle.
It's all about risk, yeah. Movies nowadays cost too much to produce, so it's difficult to break even, and relying on preexisting IP instead of creating new ones is safer.
I mean the numbers show that people go to see things they’re familiar with. Smaller and indie studios will be willing to take risks on smaller budgets but if hundreds of millions are going into a movie it’s just not going to be risky, otherwise they would run out of money very quickly. It’s not that deep.
It's really sad how the quality of most movies have gone down. Is it just me or does if seem like the 2020's decade movies are poorly written or just sequels and prequels? Oppenheimer was absolutely amazing. Barbie was good, but I felt like something was missing.
i do want to point out that some stuff get super overly hyped and they want to please those and bring in the new gen to love what we had years ago. 80% of the time it just doesn't do well. not to mention a lot of fans or other people beg so badly for something to add to the story and a lot of times it doesn't need it. i don't always mind it, but i would have prefer it long ago or it make sense. Wonka was fine, but some was questionable because it doesn't add up and i cant figure out which one it can go with. i didn't mind the original and the one with tim burtin.
I was so shocked when that one chocolate bar at the end that he had since childhood lasted with him and didn't taste stale or anything from all the years. I can say it was the whimsical magic side too I guess.
Considering all the other things that happened in the movie that defied logic (my favourite one being that people didn't care about eating bugs in their chocolate), this is a pretty small thing.
@XekutoZoren Yeah you're absolutely right. Don't question it just have an open mind and enjoy the fun!
I think chocolate takes a long time to really go bad. Even with bloom on it it’s safe to eat usually. That said, there was no bloom on it either.
The secret ingredient: the strongest preservative the river can provide
That's what you're hung up on in this movie?
On screen: Snow capped mountains in the background and a truck that says "Moreau & Fils" (French for Sons). Alex's narration: "(...)he's just gotten off the boat in some ambiguous UK London-esque town." Granted, it's a minor nitpick, but given that's what we do here, it's worth saying the setting is unambiguously not London-esque.
The og movie and book was showing how he moved far away from his childish wonder and the reason he made chocolate and candies in the first place (kinda like how wonka portrays him and his origins) the reason he’s so different and detached in the og movie is the whole point of his character in pretty much all the movies and especially in Charlie and the glass elevator 👍he’s a man who lost his wonder and is trying to find someone to replace him who has that same spark he once did for making candy and chocolate
yeah, how do you think charlie's character is similar to willy's character in this wonka movie
I like how wonka can't read in this movie, but he read the no daydreaming sign earlier in the movie
Didn’t someone point it out to him? He didn’t read it himself lol
He didnt?
The sign is pointed to and the cop holds out a hand for the fine. Whether he understood it or saw the number and knew it must be a fine for daydreaming after the guy says "no daydreaming" and points at it, or whether they forgot he couldn't read, i dunno
The officer says "no daydreaming" so Wonka never needs to read it. During the song if you keep count of the coins he has, he should have 6 at that point. The lady with the baby only takes 1, and Wonka loses the last. This means he understood what the officer meant, but still couldn't read the sign as he paid 4 instead of 3.
@@KirbyVoltwhat a keen eye you do have there...
So taking the movie as its own work separate from the original Willie wonka, this is my favorite movie of the past five years. It was fantastical and fun in a way I haven’t seen in a long time
I know I speak for every Horrible Histories kid when I say that Mat Baynton a.k.a Fickelgruber is THE most important guy here
HH is how you get kids interested in a subject. Imagine a maths show that presents it in the form of maths duels, which actually happened, while teaching kids more advanced calculus.
@projekttaku1753 Wish I'd had this tbh, I would've aced maths exams like I did history!
First rule: you put any member of the HH cast in a piece of media and I will watch it.
As a peep show lover I argue that Paterson Joseph was important love hh too tho
Exactly right. How to tell someone knows nothing about Britain, they don't know the HH cast.
"Nothing rhymes with 'noodle'," he said
"Doodle," I think of immedietly
Poodle
@@TheLooocie Just for fun, I'm gonna say: I want to doodle a poodle eating a noodle
Aoodle
Boodle
Coodle
Doodle
Eoodle
Foodle
Goodle
Hoodle
Ioodle
Joodle
Koodle
Loodle
Moodle
Noodle
Ooodle
Poodle
Qoodle
Roodle
Soodle
Toodle
Uoodle
Voodle
Woodle
Xoodle
Yoodle
Zoodle
Kit N kaboodle
@@iclynnx 📸🤨
Roald dahl actually didn't like willy wonka and the chocolate factory. Wonka isn't supposed to be that uncanny. Charlie and the chocolate factory is much closer to the book in characterization
willy wonka just has to be left alone now
meh, still better than yet another King Arthur, Robin Hood or Batman movie. always the same nonsense.
I still found the prequel better than rubbish tom and jerry willy wonka and the chocolate factory cartoon version because at least in this one slugworth had his own actual dong rather than singing veruca's song
"This is how people react when I say I have never drank alcohol before."
THANK you. I mean, my friends know and respect this, which is why we are friends, but everyone in college said "why" and when you're 30+ they look at you like you've never had fun in your life.
The most shocking thing about this movie was actually how good it was. Me and my little sister went to see it together during a school merit trip to hate-watch it because we expected it to be bad, but we genuinely enjoyed it. The songs gave me very whimsical, Mary-Poppins esque vibes, and I actually almost cried when Noodle reunited with her mother (which very few movies have been able to do to me).
Also I love it how "Wonka and his fellow servants defy their master to sell drugs while evading the police and exposing the Mafia" is a somewhat accurate summary of the movie XD
Yeah the amount of prequels, sequels, and so on is insane.. Especially when most of these don't even need a second movie or remake.
After watching it for a few times, this movie feels isn't necessarily supposed to be a prequel (even if it was advertised as so) but rather a love letter to the idea of Wonka that most have in their heads. Even knowing how dark the books and OG movies are I still have this idea of the whimsy of Wonka, and I think the movie captured that idea perfectly. The setting of a young Wonka lends to this because it's supposed to be before he becomes recluse and cynical and completely beaten down by the world, while exploring in part how much of a toll it starts to take on him throughout the movie. This movie definitely should not be handcuffed to the other works but rather tied loosely to the idea, whimsy, and imagination of Wonka and the impact of society therein. But that's just how I feel 😁
but since the whole world around him is weird, then him being weird doesnt make much sense. he no longer stands out as much and tehres a lot of stuff that happens in this movie that dont make sense and theres no foreshadowing as to what mkaes him become insane and cynical
Agreed
The problem with these prequel movies is that as a completely stand alone movies they’re fine, but the fact that they’re latched onto an already existing story makes any achievement they make feel somewhat hollow as it doesn’t quite match with the original story that it’s supposedly leading up to
OH YEAH. A kid is so gonna choose the gene wilder version over this version EVERYTIME. The only people I’ve ever met who like the gene wilder version are full grown adults. And sadly buddy this movie and the the original are kids movies. Not really made for you anymore bud
Wonka gives me horror movie villain origin story in this thanks to the line delivery, which actually makes sense considering the child ending deathtrap of a factory he ends up with
i always hated the wonka movies because of the deathtraps in the films but i do want to see this movie
I absolutely loved this movie, it was so different than I thought it would be, but in a good way. I thought making Willy Wonka more friendly and optimistic was a good choice. He's just starting out, so it makes sense. I also liked the part about him not being able to read because at the end when he reads the note from his mom, he wouldn't have known what she said if Noodle hadn't have taught him
Yeah, I actually enjoyed it too. Then again, I was a big fan of both the Paddington movies and it’s the same screenwriter.
I thought it was very fun. Not every movie needs to be a deep, serious cinematic masterpiece
I found it rather boring and nonsensical. Could've done with a better script
It was a fun watch for me as well. Just a movie you bring a girl to the date with.
I mean, as long as I don't consider it a prequel to the other movies, just it's own thing. Then it works.
The fine print part is funny too because he has the kids sign the contract with the small print no one can read in the original!
0:24 yes. It’s also fun to make up backstories for characters, as some artists in their “OC machine” phase would know!
0:42 ah yes, mountains by the coast, VERY 'Londonesque' 🤣
Never would I believe that Alex would be doing WONKA! Anyways, he should also do the Mean Girls musical movie in the future! 1:43 for sponsor skip!
you're a hero
Should absolutely do mean girls, that shit was soooo bad
he analysis every movie
2:36 No don’t disrespect roadkill like that lol
Wonka never went out of his way to punish any of the children in the OG. They punished themselves by being greedy and stupid and ignoring the clearly laid out rules and warnings. He just didn't baby them or feel all that sorry for them when their stupidity/greed INDEED landed them in hot chocolate.
Especially bc all of the other kids besides Charlie had their parents pay their way into the Factory. They had no respect for rules bc of how their parents had taught them that they’re above them.
That song scene Alex did really impressed me actually
I really liked this movie! Timothée's acting is really good, it is quite feel-good while still having some darker parts but in a light-hearted way.
Alex be changing where he puts his "but before that really quick" to keep us on our toes lol
I saw it in theatres with my friend, and I will admit I loved this movie because I’m a nostalgic little sap and nearly cried hearing ‘Pure Imagination’
Same, I went to see it with my grandma and teared up when the notes started playing and also cried when the full song was finally played
@@strobo308i saw it with my grandma too! she wanted to watch it with me and my brother and since we didn’t wanna make her sad, we went. i thought it would be okay, but ended up loving it! music was nice and the vintage style was very appealing
Same !!!
Me too!!!!
Real
I truly don’t understand the huge focus on Noodle’s character development and story arc, when this is a Wonka origin story. The movie literally could have been called Wonka & Noodle. I felt like we could have used that time to explore how he collected all of his exotic ingredients and all the unexplained magic.
I mean unlike a lot of other movie trailers hiding the fact they were musicals.
The last 2 Charlie and the Chocolate factory movies are arguably musicals.
I agree this is like full blown musical shenanigans with choreographed dance numbers. But it'd be surprising if it had no songs.
I mean even the tim burtin one has a bunch of songs lol
I'd argue this one and the og are musicals. Charlie is a movie with songs.
The actual book has songs - the oompa loompas made up a song and sang it after each child's "accident"
@@endees1317 I loved reading the Roald Dahl books.
Charlie and the Chocolate factory is totes a good read, the Glass Elevator the following book was pretty out there.
My fav book of his was BFG, but The Witches is also pretty awesome. :)
@whimai412 oh same! I think Matilda was probably my favourite, but Charlie was a close second. Tbh though, the Tim Burton movie is my favourite Charlie movie lol - I love how he brings in the darker aspects of the book to the front.
@@Tirnel_S So was the OG
Not Mr. Bean in a chocolate movie😂...love it
Greatest thing to come out of my hometown is mr bean
As the video shows the scene of the dude drowning in the chocolate river, an ad pops up and says, "My skin has been so much smoother, so much more hydrated" Who knew chocolate was such a wonderful skin product
2:41
Actually it sounded pretty nice not gonna lie
Lol the halfhearted “stop, don’t” 😂
They just gave him a tragic backstory and a happy man for relatability.
The best part of Wonka was the ending... where they recycled musicals from the original and had him in his factory. It's almost as if he belonged in his own little world of magic instead of forcing whimsy on a mundane world.
tbh we really didnt need this film but i really enjoyed it. it kept this fun whimsical feeling the og willy wonka film had and thats why i liked it sm cuz it wasnt a cut out of the 2005 charlie and the chocolate factory film which was really creepy (cuz of tim burton) and it reminded me so much of paddington
That's because it was the same director who made it
in the general sense, sure yeah, a film like this isn’t needed. but when you put into context how the film industry is oversaturated with more and more movies that are bleak in atmosphere, a whimsical, heartwarming, and feel good positive movie like this is absolutely needed, especially when you treat it as escapism from current events. it’s also made by paul king, who was the director for paddington 1 and 2. he’s really good at making movies that just makes you happy, honestly.
the director of paddington made this movie
I also really liked it. To me, adults who complain too much about it are just too nitpicky and obnoxious (like the parents in the original movie). This movie is fun and heartwarming and colorful, which is a really nice change with all the stuff that is being released lately in the cinemas.
The og Wonka traumatised me as a child-
With how much he experiments with chocolate, I can imagine he's got a few screws loose from all of those combos. I forget that he talks about how he always wanted to be a magician. Maybe in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, he was having a mid-life crisis? Being a witness to a mid-life crisis, I can tell you, people do some messed up sheit.
Wonka set up the tour to exploit the weakness of each kid so he could figure out which kids would still do the right thing by not betraying him.
He knew the kids weren't in danger, Augustus wasn't under the chocolate long enough to drown, Violet ate a product he designed specifically to appeal her her wants, Mike got shrunk with another specially made device he knew he could reverse, and Veruka only ever got sent to a garbage heap which is mostly chocolate. The closest we see to real danger is Charlie and Grandpa Joe because of the lemonade, but even there the exhaust fans generated zero air disturbance which they should have given their size and purpose, they were likely perfectly safe and intended just to give an impression of danger.
In the books all the kids get messed up. It was pretty much the only thing I liked about the Burton movie, because I loved that part of the book.
Yea the Tim burton one showed the kids all messed up and wrong in the end, which makes it creepier and sad
Except the reason Wonka sent out the golden tickets was to find an heir. And the plan was to get to know the kids and pick his favorite, it just mostly happened to be luck that they fell victim to their vices.
@tgiacin435 no the temptations were tailored to the kids.
@@steveomac385 outside of the chocolate room and inventing room, the nut room and TV rooms were chosen by Mr. Salt and Mike respectively. He was seeing if the kids would actually behave
Nah i starting dying when i saw that Mr. Bean was playing the priest 😂
I actually loved this movie, Timothee Chalame did a great job on playing that role, he was such a great singer too, I love this movie!
I think now a days, people just want to hate on movies. I mean i understand, bc lots of movies now are pretty rubbish, but that doesnt mean we have to hate on good ones. I feel like Alex is taking the movie about litteral magic, for children, a bit too seriously. If this movie came out in the mid 2010s, then this movie would be beloved. Its just bc its popular to hate on stuff now 🤷♂️
@@MondoMovieGamingAlso cause it just came out. Give it a few more years and more people will be open for it.
@@vastro921 yeah true
It's good on its own but fans of willy Wonka expected more of a sinister side of Wonka, I loved 2005 Wonka the best, he's hot, charming and weird and kinda... Yes sinister. While this Wonka is naive and child like which is fine ig
@@RyuKyu.77 One cannot forget this is also before his employees sold his recipes and betrayed him. He probably became more serious like that along the way.
I actually really enjoyed the songs, they were all very catchy
"Manic incubus dream boy" is one of the funniest terms I've ever heard~
Ok, "now let me out of here, or i shall shriek" made me chuckle.
This was a feelgood, holiday film. I came in with mixed expectations, and was very pleasantly surprised. It was well cast, and there was a fantastic rendition of "Pure Imagination."
Which portrayal was better: Timothee, Johnny, or Gene?
@@kamsismith Definitely Gene, he really embodied Wonka's eccentric personality the best.
Same. Even though he was creepy, but not as creepy as Johnny, he had a certain charm that you can't ignore. I can't believe it's been 8 years since this man died, but at least he's reunited with his wife, Gilda Radner.
@@kamsismithas someone who actually read the book, I'll say Timothee is the actual real one. Wonka was not creepy at all in the book, just whimsical
as a lover of British panel shows, I was really stoked by the many cameos!
1:58 ur singing was Amazing like im not even lyung it all worked together so well lol
2:46 not a bad singing voice not gonna lie
What’s crazy is in the last movie we got a backstory. His dad was a dentist that hated him and he lived in the middle of no where and that backstory was definitely better if one was ever needed
how is that better? I don't think it was better at all. this one is better because he was having a good time with a mum who supported him
@@taliagmail.com2005nah the darker background makes way more sense. How would a crazy chocolate genius have a normal healthy upbringing? Kinda lame
I completely agree
Yeah the dentist vs candy maker plot was way better especially when they come together at the end
@@mrrning6strr588 not it wasn't
These little drawings are so adorable! Especially the baby! ♥️😊
Wonka: nothing rhymes with noodle.
*poodle, doodle, feudal, strudel*
I mean, in the movie, he does use the rhyme poodle in a song. does that count?
This is a kid that can't read. Do you really expect him to know anything except the first two?
@@saucevc8353wonka literally says apple strudel in the song where he is rhyming. So yes, he knows the word strudel
@@Biotyn Yeah that’s true
"Hey there Noodle,
Please eat my apple strudel,
Else I'll turn you into a poodle
And it's gonna get feudal!"
...or at least, that's how I'd doodle.
It's funny how between the Two Major Willy Wonka movies after the original. You have the Tim Burton which forgot any sense of whimsy and then you have this that loses any sense of edge. When the combination of whimsy and edge is what made the original a classic.
There have been comments made about making a sequel to this that is darker and showcases how Willy eventually becomes the more edged character in the first movie.
Not only that but you have to kind of analyze the Wonkas too. As much as I love Johnny Depp his Wonka was horrible. It was so stale & stiff as compared to Wilder's who was charismatic & charming as well as slightly terrifying lol. Depp's felt like a visual "shock factor" while Wilder's was psychological.
So a movie about candy and a candy man actually made for kids. I say a good trade off for silly songs
1st whimsical
2nd edgy
3rd ???
Roald dahl actually HATED the original film
Thank you for this! I didn't know Wonka was a musical. Til I watched it.
12:32 oh boy its mr bean
I dont see this as a backstory or explanation for previous movies' willy wonka, but just a standalone story about willy wonka.
I thought it was a bit wierd how a lot of people kept complaining about how it contradicted the lore of the first movie when it clearly wasnt meant to be a prequel to that movie .
Lol it officially is a prequel to the first movie
@elsa.b that's what I thought lol
I mean...everything we had about willy wonka, was him as this big well established famous chocolate maker in his 40s. So when a movie drops about a 20 something, poor, starting to make chocolate Willy wonka...Is a pretty fair assessment to think it's a prequel/ backstory to the 40 year old character, isn't it?
The studio literally said it's a prequel.
Well then don't call it a Willy Wonka movie🙄 Willy Wonka isn't a series about people or something it's a person, a character this movie hasn't got the character of Willy Wonka, it's not about Roald Dahl's world or anything else. They shouldn't have called it ''Willy Wonka'' because it's not Willy Wonka
2:31 I wondered what this was about and then said ‘sofa exhibition’ out loud and there IS an unnecessary R in there 🤯
i love how it has no music and takes away every bit of life out of the movie
Probably so he doesn't get copy strikes 😭
He does this every time he puts a clip where a song is playing in order to avoid getting a copyright strike
Alex gets so many points for literally writing songs for his episodes
THE MUSIC IS AMAZING THOUGH
I totally get why young wonka was happy and older wonka hates the world. Use to be super chill and happy then a decade in customer service has turned me into dr house “ everybody lies!!” 😂😂😂
6:39 This is how I genuinely react when people say they’ve never had Belgian Chocolate
Belgian?
@@Kinglovinstone *WHAT?* It means from Belgium
@@AYVYNnever had it. What places sell it?
@@scottwesner9362 You can get some at Aldi if you have any near you; I think it’s $1, the higher grade stuff is in special chocolate stores around big cities.
Im not much of a chocolate fan (also cant have it anymore so have become slightly more of a fan lol) belgian chocolate was 200% up there with favourites
7:25 That actor plays literally every "womderous mother" in ever film ever nowadays and it drives me bonkers