3 Ways to Control 4 Mini Moving Heads: Program Betopper Lights Easily!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
- Learn how to connect a set of four inexpensive Mini Moving Heads from Betopper, first unboxing, then checking out their features, and then see how to control them: (1) First Independently, (2) then in Master/Slave Mode, (3) and finally with a DMX Controller!
You can buy very similar lights here:
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You can also buy the Obey 40 controller here:
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I got a pair of Lixadas based on your last Mover video and have been so pleased! We now run a PreProgrammed Light show via the DMXIS box running inside of Ableton. Can't thank you enough for helping me learn DMX and get it implemented!
I'm so glad to hear you like the Lixada's. (I've been happy with mine too) DMXIIS is a great system. I'm still an Ableton newbie but have always wanted to combine it with lighting control. Nice to know its working for you!
Best DMX channel ever. Great job explaining.
I appreciate those kind words and thanks very much for watching!
I own 4 and I was just thinking “I need a refresher on these things”. I was going to look up to see if you had a video as you are my go to channel for learning about DMX. You made a great video!
Appreciate the kind words and thanks so much for watching- Glad this one was helpful!
Awesome!! I love moving head lights and this makes them even more cool! Thank you!
I'm glad to know you liked it and really appreciate you watching!
Omg. Dude. You are so good at showing and explaining how this stuff works. Thank you so much
Thanks very much for those words of encouragement and appreciate you watching!
I stumbled upon this, but I must say it is exceptionally well done!
Appreciate those kind words!
Ahhh I just found this video this is exactly what In needed! You are great and you have helped me a lot! Your videos are amazing! They let me learn everything instantly! Thank you for this!
I'm so glad theses have been helpful and I really appreciate your kind words. Thanks very much for watching them!
I'm convinced Steve is the world's best Lighting tech
Ahh- Thank you!!
All the videos on my channel about 80 different bands I learned most of the lighting techniques from Learn Lizard!
Awesome job!!!
Thanks SO much for those kind words and I really appreciate you watching!!
A very very clear explanation
Glad it helped and thanks for watching!
Great run-through 💯👌👍
Thanks for the kind words and appreciate you watching!
Unbelievably helpful- thank you!
Glad it was helpful! (and thanks for watching)
Thank you for watching!
Hey, Fantastic video. Great example how to set up DMX. I’m sure you will do a Wireless one via Interface and iPad. Cannot wait to see more of your videos Steve. 😁🙏🏼
Really appreciate your kind words.🙂 I'd love to get my hands on a wireless mover and make a video. Thanks for the suggestion!
Thank you so much it was very helpful
I appreciate you watching!
Great Tutorial! Thx
Thanks for the kind words and appreciate you watching!
SIMPLE, BASIC INSRUCTION....High Five Dude(......smack!!...) I have 8 of these 'similar' fixtures and use them as Stage position SPOTS, and as 'PARTY MOVERS" for 'Break Music'. (shameful admition, here...), but I've never actually taken the time to SLAVE them, but this makes Programing a bit easier to understand...THANKS
Glad it helped. Would love to see all 8 of them in master-slave mode. Bet it looks awesome! Appreciate you watching...
Hi Robert! Do you know of any way to make these lights stay still in a single color without the use of dmx controllers? I think that is what you mean when you say "spots." Any tips will be appreciated! ❤️ Thanks
They are great little lights I have 2 of them on the end of my rig and use them to light the room as well as spot light things I used to use it with the dmx controller but I’ve now got it set to my adj airstream
Excellent! - That ADJ Airstream looks like a pretty cool all in one solution (and I like that it runs on an iPhone or iPad) Appreciate you watching...
How good is the Air stream as I have the MyDMXGo currently.
@@DjJeffo78 the air stream is really good you can use it on any iOS device and share you file and it’s really easy to set up just add the device the amount of channels used and it’s then all loaded for what each device does
@@DjJeffo78 I've only looked at it online but haven't tried it personally. The only downside of closed systems like that is that you are limited to their software, but ADJ makes good stuff from what I've seen.
Thank you !!!!
Thank you for watching!
I tested the betopper LM70S RGBW Wash Moving Head and run it in Fast auto mode and was bright to light up the backyard with colors and tested with my DMX Controller and works flawlessly and use it in a pool party
Thats awesome- glad to hear it worked out (and I bet that was a cool party!)
Hola con el dmx no te da menos luz? Yo tengo ese problema y creo que no está bien configurado gracias
@@TheHolazz asegura en la consola dmx selectas la luz y sube al maximo en 255, el canal de brillo de la luz depende en la luz que estas usando
is there anyway to invert pan in the x direction so the mirror eachother in auto modes when slaved
Hi
Thank you so much for this video.
Can you please teach more about ‘Stairville Show Bar TriLED 18x3W RGB’ and ‘ Stairville LED Commander 16/2’
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The Show Bar looks cool! I'd love to do a video on it. In the meantime here's a video on a similar Bar Light : th-cam.com/video/xIHZcgVrBB4/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching!
Love your vids, they are really helpful!
I'm really new to this world so I have a question... I can't decide if I should buy 2PCS of the ones you showed in this video or 2PCS of the Mini Gobo ones. I'll use them mainly for parties and not so big events, but at the same time I kinda want to put on a show with the lights, so I don't know which one will help me more with that. My main concern is them not covering up as many space as I want or not being so bright.
Wich one would you pick or Wich one do you think is the better moving head overall??? Thanks.
Thanks for the kind words! Each of these movers throws a different kind of light. If you want to mix many pure colors and fill a space with lots of light, I'd go with the mini movers in this video. If you want dramatic looking beams that look great with a fog machine or hazer and lots of crazy gobo patterns that can project on a wall or dance floor, go with the mini gobos. Appreciate you watching!
Haha. I just ordered two of those. Really, since getting onto stage for the first time I was curious about those devices.
A few years ago I wanted to DIY a USB DMX device.
And now, since getting into edrums, the time has come.... I would like to just try out some things with MIDI from edrums or the DAW into Q Light Controller+ through a cheap USB2DMX RS485 Adapter with FTDI chip.
I think I dont need an Enttec DMX USB Pro Interface for 2 moving heads and 4 PARs?
Thanks for your content, dude!
Thanks for watching! Here's a video about triggering DMX lights with edrums you might like:
th-cam.com/video/0uMbA5NeFCQ/w-d-xo.html
...and here's another about controlling a LaserCube with edrums:
th-cam.com/video/aXO4Ldbpsj4/w-d-xo.html
hello, your information is very valuable, thank you very much. There are 4 mini moving heads where I work. I run it with DMX. I set it to 1, 17, 33, 49 but the two work differently. I wonder why they have different colors and one of them turns in a different direction?
For the different colors check to make sure they are set to the same DMX channel mode number. (9 channel vs 14 channel mode for example) For the different directions got into the menu and make Pan and Tilt reverse is set the same on all of them (either on or off)
Another great video! Would this method also work with the Intimidator Wave 360 IRC?
I think the same basic method would work for DMX programming as the position and color of each head can be controlled independently. It looks like the auto functions control the whole set so I'm not sure how much individual control you would have in this mode (but most people would never need or want to)
Thanks for the kind words and appreciate you watching!
I have 4 of those lights and I’m trying to connect them to airstream DMX, would you know which patching name it would connect to, so I can control them digitally?
Hey Steve. Great video! I have 4 of these lights and they are very good. Is it possible to control them via a DMX controller staying on 1 color in sound activation mode? I wish to create front and back washes with Betopper par cans and have the moving head color match/compliment the wash. For live music the random color changing is a little erratic. Appreciate if you can help. Thank you :)
Hi- This is definitely a question that comes up a lot. Unfortunately, the built in sound and auto functions on little lights like these are completely separate from the DMX functions where you would set the colors. That being said, lots of controllers (even simple ones) have built in sound active functions so your best bet is to program your scenes and then try triggering them with the controller’s sound active functions. Good luck and thanks for watching!
One question please, if i purchase new dmx controller does it need to be programed or it can work with dmx lightings?
You will have to set it and your lights to match starting addresses and channels, and then program your own scenes. It takes a little work but its worth it!
So I have 2 moving head lights and I programmed all my chases (6) I wanna make more chases and have them not in the same pattern I have my regular chases to how can I make more chases? Or I can’t? On the DMX controller
The Obey 40 only allows you to make 6 chases (with up to 240 steps)
Sounds like you are going to need a bigger better controller! (you may want to consider getting a software controller) Thanks for wtaching!
Hi, can y set one color of all moving heads (red) for all night, 4ps and 1 master is conect dmx cable , but whit sound program moving all in red colors
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Hmm- I'm not sure exactly what you are asking. Do you want 4 lights to all be red, but to move in time to the music? You could program a chase with the different positions (all in red) and then sync it to sound using the "Music Scene Playback" function. Hope that helps and thanks for watching!
Can you set up 4 moving heads in different brand and can move together in same direction with dmx controller?
Yes, you can definitely set up lights from different brands but chances are that the DMX channels will be different on each light. So to get them to move together you would have to individually program each one in a chase made from scenes where the pan and tilt positions were matched. Hope that helps and thanks for watching.
Is there a way to limit the pan, I.e so that it only shines everywhere EXCEPT the DJ booth. Those lights are blinding at point blank range! Both with or without a controller? Thanks
I know what you mean about being blinded at point blank range! The answer is yes and no. If they are in auto or sound active mode I don't know of any way to limit the pan or tilt on these. But if you are using DMX to program scenes then it is easy to limit the range to whatever parameters you want. Appreciate you watching!
Is there a way to stop it strobing without using a controller on the “stand alone mode”? Thanks
Unfortunately there is no way I am aware of to do that. (and you are not the first person that has asked) I wish that was included in the programming options as the strobing can be really intense (especially when you want a mellower look) Thanks for watching!
Can you connect different types of lights together? Or do they have to be the same model?
You can connect completely different lights together as long as they are each set to their own DMX starting addresses.
Hi! Could you make a video about using dmx flamethrowers?
I would LOVE to make a video about a Fire Thrower! (I've wanted one ever since the first time I saw one) Hopefully sometime this year if I can get my hands on one...
That would be great! I’m interested in using some at our shows but I’m hoping someone has mastered an easy way to control them! What would be great is a footswitch control! Something that could be used by a musician during the show to emphasize a chorus or something.
Please make more moving head vids
OK- Please subscribe and there will be more in the coming year!
@@LearnLizard Thanks a lot
@@LearnLizard thanks can you also do some especially for the mini beams
How do you make a chase ?
Hi- Here's how:
1. Enter Program mode.
2. Press a chase button to select the chase to be created.
3. Use the bank buttons and the scene buttons to locate the scene that will be saved as a step in the chase. The LCD display shows the current bank just above the word Bank.
4. Press two times to save the scene into a step.
5. Repeat steps 3-4 to add more scenes into steps,or steps 2-4 to add more chases.
6. Exit Program mode.
7. Reset faders to 0 and deactivate blackout.
Hola tengo 2 de estas pero cuando las conecto al mixer dmx tira menos luz. Que podrá ser? Gracias
Puede ser que la función de atenuación del controlador no esté configurada al 100% y cuando las luces reciban el mensaje DMX se ajusten al valor más bajo.
Sadly the link to Obey 40 is expired, i guess i got to stick with cheap dmx controllers
I am still having problems with the USB-DMX
I just tried the link for the Obey 40 and it came up on Amazon US for $198 (with 25' DMX cable and 3, 10' Cables) I also have a cheap Lixada Controller (with basically the same functionality) and it works fine except there is no MIDI control.
Can you do a video about Goboes Please
Yes- I'm working on a video about gobo lights right now and it should be posting in a few weeks. Appreciate you watching!
I want to buy the ones that are listed on Amazon. My only worry is that the lights are sold by a company in China. When I bought a light from a Chinese company before it didn’t work. Do your lights still work after the years worth of using them?
Hi- I've been happy with most all of my "budget light" purchases. Aside from a loose bolt rattling inside a small laser I once bought, everything has been continuing to work without problems. That said, I am a musician/hobbyist who uses lights for shows a couple times a month at the most. If you are considering fixtures for a professional daily working environment, your results may vary. Thanks for watching!
@@LearnLizard Thank you so much, I am a starting DJ looking to expand my light performances. I was thinking 2 moving head lights would really spice up my set so I was looking for an inexpensive way to fulfill that. Thank you so much!
hi,anyone can assist without dmx controller how to set manually the lights not to blink? please..
On smaller lights like these, the designers always seem to put strobing (blinking) into their auto programs. There is no way (that I know of) to eliminate it from an auto or sound active mode- unfortunately you need to use DMX to get that level of control.
Sir, how do you set the moving head to 9-channel or 14-channel mode?
Hi- First press the menu button repeatedly until you see "14CH>9CH". Then press the "Enter" button. Now you can use the "Up" and "Down" buttons to switch modes. Hit the "Enter" button one more time to save. Hope that helps and thanks for watching!
@@LearnLizard Thank you!!!
How to control, so it's not moving around. I mean moving up and down, left and right but not at backward, thanks
If you are running these in the auto functions you can't edit or change any of the pan or tilt parameters unfortunately. You need to use DMX to get that level of control.
@@LearnLizard ok i get it. im buying the dmx controller soon. thanks
I still can't program my startec spot
I'd like to do a video on that one. It probably programs similar to the mini gobo in this vid: th-cam.com/video/IklDtZLkAOc/w-d-xo.html
link expired? @t also it costs double price if i buy them from china warehouse
How can i set two moving heads to just go around the room slowly. Its for a wedding and just going to use two of them going around slowly to give some atmosphere to the room. Total noob. Got some movingheads and the same dmx controller as you have
If you program a few different scenes on the controller with every parameter the same except for the position of the light, and then put the scenes into a chase with a slow speed you should come close to the effect you are looking for. (takes a little bit of work)
How do we know an audio XRL cable from a DMX XLR cable? You must look at the writing along the cable. The only way. Big f**king secret.
Shame it's so expensive to get them in Ireland over twice as expensive.
That is too bad- not sure why they would be so much there. Thanks for watching...
@@LearnLizard yeah it's just a pain but sure what can ya do.. no problem I love watching, you make DMX so easy to learn compared to any other way I've ever seen before.
Try buying UKing ones from ebay
7 x 8w = whatttt
7 x 8 x 4 lights- That's wattt! 😀
@@LearnLizardEach color in every LED is not 8w. The whole LED is 8w.