"I Don't Want Us To Be A Top 4 Team!" Tottenham 3-1 Nottingham Forest [STEL FAN CAM]
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The fact you still have this bloke come on your channel is embarrassing
Th fact you hide behind a keyboard is coward like.
@@TottenhamAwayTVGreat appearance Stel! Although I don’t agree with the Werner Ange Out thing, I’m still mostly with you! Ignore the haters🌟
@@TottenhamAwayTV posting a comment isn't hiding
@@TottenhamAwayTVhe says, hiding behind a keyboard 😂
Tott TV credibility lacking when they have an guy who’s “Ange Out” because of signing Werner.
I don't think from an emotional stand point. It's not for everyone as most fans are emotional operators.
@@TottenhamAwayTV Most fans are emotional operators and you're not really operating at all are you bud hahaha
@@TottenhamAwayTV he restated it after a win in a non-emotional state. Hardly someone anyone should take notice of.
@@ronaldomcdonaldo6289 hiding behind a keyboard EMOTIONALLY scared like the chicken you are 🐔
@@johno6294 stop hiding behind your keyboard coward.
I used to be quite skeptical about signing Werner on a permanent basis but I think it’s becoming more and more of a no brainer to do so. 7 G/A from 8 starts and 11 games is not bad. No, I don’t want him as our marquee LW signing next season but as a squad player, I’d much rather have him over Gil or Solomon.
When has Tottenham ever signed a £15 million back up, then gone out in the same transfer window and signed another marquee player in the same position to start above the "back up" they just bought? Tottenham doesn't work like that, if Spurs sign Werner he'll be a first team starter for us with Solomon as second/ third choice and then they'll move onto other signings like another striker, another CDM and Midfielder. We know he isn't good enough but Spurs fans are creating narratives that he'll be "back up" as a coping mechanism. The cultural rot continues I see.
@@checkmate7345 are you incapable of experiencing positivity?
@@DjNaste stop asking nonsensical questions of course I experience positivity. Right now the current system is very volatile to conceding goals, Ange has said on numerous occasions he won't change this means that we'll continue giving away goals. What this implies is that we need goals and lots of them to bail this system out. I'm all for Angeball but we need to be honest about what the system is going to need in order to flourish to the point where we can win trophies or titles. Werner isn't a natural finisher and doesn't get anything close to 15 goals. Right now the only players who regularly score for this team is Sonny and Richy, Tottenham fans have already conceded that they don't want him as starter but then say we don't mind buying him as a back up? This is a narrative that Spurs fans are making up in their heads and passing it off as facts as he won't be coming in as a back up but as a regular starter for Spurs as he is now. This is how deadwood acculmulates in the club we buy players we don't really want to begin with and then people point the finger at Levy for buying on the cheap.
@@checkmate7345 you sure?
@@DjNaste Go to sleep, we'll wake you up when your opinion is needed 🤣
The whole ‘if we sign Timo Werner Ange Out’ is a ridiculous statement. Of course we need better players in those positions for the starting XI. I hope we can sign our versions of Salah and Mane this summer, Ange is no fool and knows the frontline needs to be improved!
I agree I dont like this guy
Agreed, pure childish
@@davidtownsend466 He did speak some sense about needing better starting players but saying that about Werner and Ange is daft! I’m not Werner’s biggest fan but I think he had a good game today and did win the battle against the Forest right back! Credit where it’s due.
Werner seems good enough, yes. He is better than Gil, Solomon, Sessegnon, Kulu, sooo I don't know what the fuss is all about :)
Stel really needs to support another team. 😂 Maybe one of those oil clubs can buy any top players without a sweat.
I have to say. For a “fan”. Stelios talks down his own team a lot. He doesn’t understand that players get better over time once they grow confidence and learn a system.
People like him they spend so much time bringing down their own players. Apparently particularly the players that could particularly use some confidence like Johnson and Werner.
Ange hasn’t said we won’t buy a £70 million dollar player. Honestly, hasn’t said that. All he has said is he won’t do it only for the purpose of spending a lot.
It really annoys me when people put words in Ange’s mouth.
Also he cant accept Ange's comments about how money is spent, Ange is spinning the club line is he? Some of what Stelios says devalues other things he says, I can't take him seriously.
@@westindiman but yet yo watch the entire clip of me speaking. Stop your virtue signalling.
Im a UEFA B qualified coach who develops players for the pro academies including Spurs "he doesn't understand" hahahahaha 🤣🤣
You accept failure and don't know how to win.
Johnson & Werner would never be signed by BIG CLUBS they are average.
Ange has said we wont buy "superstars" and we wont spend big money on 1 player when we can buy 2,3, or 4 players instead.
It really annoys me when fans lie.
@@TottenhamAwayTV The way you are acting is B Grade for sure.
First- I think you are talking rubbish. I think you have paid to get your B Grade qualification and have started a small business trying to get players to be trained by you. But let’s be honest. You don’t know what you are talking about.
Second- guy if you are actually training Tottenham junior players do you think it might be a conflict of interest when you make comments suggesting Ange should be going to the academy to bring in quality players. Do you think maybe you should be declaring that conflict of interest when you make the comment? Because they would be bringing in players you allegedly are developing?
Anyway- look it doesn’t give me any pleasure doing this. But you keep trashing your own team. And that’s exactly the culture that needs to change. Because when you saddle a new team and new players with past failures you are just continuing the failure. You are actually contributing to the future failures of the club.
I will leave it at that, because it doesn’t give me pleasure pointing out these issues. Do better mate. I want you to be better.
@@TottenhamAwayTV There are fully qualified managers whos sometimes talk shit and make the wrong decisions, being a "qualified coach" doesn't make your opinions correct nor superior.
I remember when Stel was adamant we wouldn't get top 4 under Conte, he said there's no way. Then when we got it, he didn't back track and admit he was embarrassingly negative and so much of a drab
Yes! He was soo bloody sure. He said he ll wear an arsenal jersey n come on the show if we get top 4. Did he do it?? Im lost of words to describe this guy
We all get things wrong I'm not perfect BUT nor are you. Difference is I dont hide behind a keyboard like a chicken 🐔
Here he is, Pep 2.0
keep hiding behind your keyboard.
@@TottenhamAwayTVlook at all the hate you’re getting in the comments, you’re just very unlikeable tbh pal
@@TottenhamAwayTVlook at all the hate you’re getting in the comments, you’re just very unlikeable tbh pal
@@TottenhamAwayTV I'm hardly hiding as my name is my username. What do you think you would/could do if we met IRL?
Why give this guy air time. The clown contradicts himself... all the time.
Because I get the most fan cam views. Sorry you're in the minority of haters.
Stelios reminds me of that clown Arsenal have on AFTV TY every club has one, hope Sim and Ben take note and don’t put him on anymore.
Love most of the guests here but please bin Stel. Such a downer. At least Brian is occasionally positive
It’s amazing how many people live in the mud and are never satisfied. Just bloody enjoy the fun of the game a little?
1 trophy in 24 years.... what fun! Stop being SPURSY
Timo is literally one of only ones consistently doing his job at at the moment. Twice Brennan was not where he needed to be for two tap ins.
Brennan is more explosive coming off the bench
Werner is the new scapegoat for Tottenham away. Werner at 10m is a good squad player. We can still sign quality especially if Solomon is injury prone
Werner is joke.
Werner is not a good squad player.
@lentner3 he's a very good squad player. Game after gane he's the only one that does something in that frontline
Werner for 15 Million is a good buy, He's more of a short term player and not a long term solution. Werner makes pretty good runs, and has a few good crosses, we just need more players in the box or to pass to. I still think we need at least 1 more winger, and an Elite number 6. Where Stell is wrong is Manu Kone is more of a number 8, and Liverpool with Salah, Firmino, and Mane played completely different than we do. They had a false 9, and we don't play with a false 9, they had overlapping fullbacks, and we don't. We play more like Manchester City. The only similarity between us and Liverpool years ago was a high line, which btw Man city also did. We haven't made good signing when we splash the cash either so there is that too. Ange wants players hunger to play for our badge as well instead of wage merchants, ie Man United wage merchants.
Stel the clown is back 😂. Nonce
Not a clown Werner is rubbt stellios is spot on
Stel manages an U10s girls team and thinks he is Pep 😂
I develop players for pro academies mainly 16 to 21 year olds including Spurs... stop your lies. Stop being a coward.
If Timo does great against the big 3, I say I'm over Stel,
Stel out!
The argument is silly. How much did salah and mane cost together. Less than 40mill. They just turned out to be really good and became even better with great coaching. There are thousands of players all over the world. New ones every year. You don't need to spend 100mill all the time. You just don't. That's not to say it's easy to find gems.
Won’t admit that because it doesn’t fit the narrative he’s made in his head
Exactly, everyone forgets that any transfer into the club is a gamble and may not pan out. When Tottenham has spent big money relative to what other clubs are spending we buy average players. We bought Ndombele, Lo Celso, Soldado, Reggie, Richarlison, Kulusevski all for big money and they haven't worked out like we wanted. Kulusevski and Richarlison still need to improve to be worth the money.
Just contradicts himself for 16 minutes ffs
But he’s a coach and knows better 🤓👆
But I didn't. Stop your lies.
Give a simple example of him contradicting himself
1. Says, “I don’t believe in waiting for players developing”, yet says we should put time into Bergvall who he has never seen play 😂
2. “We need to sign ready many players like Van Der Ven”. We did not sign Micky knowing he was going to be as good as he is, he was a potential player….
3. Salah, Mane and Firmino were built into a title winning team, not bought as a title winning team
4. Lastly, says he’s open to other opinions, yet has shut down virtually every opposing comment on this video 😂
Always find a reason to sook. We are we so obsessed over stuff that may or may not happen? Stel needs a reality check. Spurs aren't like the scum or man city. We need to build our reputation up to compete in the transfer market. We need to check our expectations.
1 trophy in 24 years. You need a reality check.
@@TottenhamAwayTV Ange takes responsibility for *one* of those years
Werner was very good today.. I’d sign him as a squad player all day long.
Spurs can get a superstar winger and have werner as a sub.
Stelios is awful please don’t put him on anymore
Coward behind a keyboard 🤣
Imagine what he would say if we lose
Werner coming off the bench next season would still be a good signing for that!....this guy gets more off putting to watch the more you watch him!
Werner obviously does what Ange wants.. he could have had 3 assists today if others stuck to the plan..
Stelio has zero idea who Ange is, he quit being Aus coach cos they didn’t see eye to eye. If Levy won’t spend and keep progressing the team, Ange will also walk
Spurs sitting 4th. Lets be more positive. Yes we can be better annd focus on 1 game at the time.
Worry about the future after the season has finished
STELIOS IS SPOT ON.WHATS THE POINT OF CHAMPIONS LEAGUE IF THERE IS NO CHANCE OF winning it
Top class players are what is ended.
Generally, you need to be in the top competitions to attract the very top class players. Why is that so hard to understand? 😂
@@DeadlyDizzle-yn1vz We've never attracted top class players when we've qualified for CL.
@@TottenhamAwayTVso explain how you realistically expect it to happen without Champions League? Think it through my guy.
At least 10 teams have no chance , but it's only cool to measure yourself against the best.
@@TottenhamAwayTV So what is it you want? We need to sign top players but we can't, ok dammit lets give rugby a go i guess
Wener is cheap at £15m. It's really not a lot of money nowadays. Johnson, by comparison, was £47m.
Werner and Johnson could look like KDB and Stel would have an issue with them.
But they don't look like KDB hence the problem. Hope this helps.
@@TottenhamAwayTV if A then B ; if not A then B. therefore B. I hope this helps ;-)
Werner is a lot better than Gil or Solomon :)
All of them are crap.
@@TottenhamAwayTV I get it you dissed Werner very early on and he has made it awkward for you by scoring a few and being involved in quite a few goals :)
Werner right now is the best option on the left alongside a list of poor options on the left. We definitely need someome better but personally I'd keep Werner as a backup option and shift out Gil and Solomon for funds.
On the right hand side I'd keep Kulu and Johnson. Both young while Johnson is going through his first season.
In terms of the attack Son will continue to be the first choice no 9, while we will have Richy as a backup option.
In addition to the attack, we also need good backup options to both fullbacks as well as another centre back and midfielder.
Another 4-5 signings in the summer, a potential massive clearout of players in the upcoming season (Forster, Davies, Tanganga, Rodon, Royal, Spence, Reguilon, Sessegnon, Hojberg, Gil, Solomon) and things can only improve under Ange from there. COYS!!!
I thought Kulu actually looked decent at left wing in the final moments against Forest. It was just a short cameo, but could be interesting to try for a longer period. He was able to dribble a couple of times and was making runs in the inside left position. I wonder if Ange was actually experimenting with him there on purpose...
How much would a winger capable of 5 goal contributions in eleven games cost in today’s market, more than £15m? If yes, then Werner is worth signing as a stepping stone while adding better. Simple.
I agree. Some people have no idea.
Whyyyy is this fan group so toxic? I hate it. Ange Out, great for Ange, he’ll go to Man United and win the league. Such a drab, sour, dour fan base. They revel in misery.
Ange can win the league at Spurs if he doesn't keep Werner.
Stel loves the drama. Loves a good whinge, win loss or draw 🤡
@@TottenhamAwayTVsuch infantry logic, stop clout chasing with ridiculous comments for attention.
I do think that Levy needs to fund group psychology for the fan base
@@TottenhamAwayTVwhat a fcking child
Sign stell for center forward so we can pull him apart when he never scores
I'm sure you just get Stelios on, because he talks mental and upsets everyone 🤣🤣
The best business we can do this summer is working out how to get the best out of Bissouma.
We are in a different place than we were 10 years ago and the reason Ange is saying it now makes it all the difference. You aren't the manager and don't have any effect on the culture at large. You aren't the manager who thinks he can get something out of the club and squad (and has the ability to change what needs to be changed to do it). Surely you can see why Ange saying we aren't just aiming for top 4 is different than you saying it lol Ange is trying to change the culture because he actually believes we can get beyond top 4. We weren't in a place to do that 10 years ago and saying "I don't care about top 4" at that point in time was a bit reductive and reiterating now that you said it back then just misses the point.
I don't know why you wouldn't buy the player that has been your best winger for cheap. You're right, there shouldn't be a debate because the debate is ridiculous. If 10 million means we don't look to sign an upgrade then we aren't ever going to challenge for more than top 4 anyway. Sure, we should keep an eye on him for the rest of the season and see if he remains consistent enough even through the big matches, but on form since coming in I don't think there's any question that the answer right now should be to bring him in
I agree we can spend money. But Ange will still want to change quite a bit of the squad this summer and it'll be 4 or 5 in for 5 out to try and get a deeper more consistently Ange type squad (and I'd think we might bring in one or two more if we can do really well on outgoings but this is very unlikely as we've consistently struggled on that front). I think once the squad is mostly his players is when the club might push out the boat to get one of those top high dollar players as a "final puzzle piece". Maybe next summer, but I definitely don't see it happening this summer as it would hamper our ability to do quantity which I think will still be the aim
Very sensible comment!
Barnaby just gets it
Stelios still saying he's ange out if we sign werner.
Shows how little he understands about football.
He's a typical blind ambition fan.
Stelios says he admires Liverpool forward line from 3 or 4 years ago.
He would not have identified "that calibre" from any of those 3...when Liverpool bought them.
Werner will be a great back up. And it's very likely he has a good mindset.
We don't have one position that will make everything click.
Angeball is about the team working as a whole a certain way.
Stelios is just so thick!
Will Stel still come on the channel when Liverpool make him their next coach ?
His head wouldn’t fit through the door if he secured a job in FM24 😂
Sure. But why?
As long as we get 2 top wingers a left back another center back and a top 6 then we sign Timo i wouldn't mind
Straight from the get go i'm going to say that Werner is not a top class player OK? But as we re-build and strengthen the squad he is the perfect player for us at the moment, and into the future i can see him as the perfect bench player for us, in a long, long season and i can see a time that we will be glad we have a player like him............The Aussie Spurs Fan
Hes trash even for a bench player this level.
@@TottenhamAwayTV Do you not find it sad that some people just hang around to bad mouth others?
@@TottenhamAwayTV you probably thought that Ange was a bad appointment too. LOL
So we need a time-machine so we can go back and get prime Bale and Modric on the team with Kane and Son.
We need to change our players mentality.. we need to score, we need them to believe to win trophies
and that is exactly what Ange is doing. making them focus on the process and not the result or the club position on the table
So far this season we've got 65 goals (7 games left) ... but going backwards over the past full 6 seasons (with Harry K and Sonny stellar) we scored 70, 69, 68, 61, 69 and 74 ... I reckon, if we still had Harry K we'd be close to triple figures this season so could we be better ? ... of course we could, improvement is never ending but we're hardly going backwards ...
I get it with what Stel is saying. The attack is so far behind any of our competitors and no player currently at the club will be able to reach those levels.
I think timo has looked good for us not sure what stelious wants from him 😂
He's not good enough to start in a team challenging for a title. He lacks killer instict
@@user-tl9eu5ge3d I understand what you mean but we are not a title challenger team yet think we are getting above our stations like we did after first 10 games jmo
Fill the squad out as required, get a baseline and then add 2 or 3 quality signings per summer window.
Maybe I’m asking too much as a spurs fan.
~Stelio’s April 2024
Purchasing "talent" can be precarious . Ange is a people developer.
100% true.
It’s not a solid start it’s a brilliant start
FFS stop giving Stel time on this channel. If I wanted to listen to his nonstop negative bullshit I’d watch his channel…
Stells a secret Liverpool fan
Ange never once said he does not want top 4 he said he is not worried about getting top 4 its not the place we finish its how we improve, of course he wants top 4 Ange want to finish as high as possible BUT wants to see improvement from the squad were ever we end up IN ANGE WE TRUST COYSSSS
Here’s hoping for a Timo incoming.
Ange has always, throughout his career, had cheaper players than his opponents. Every job he's ever had he's said that. Ange released Harry Kewell when he was coaching the Melbourne Victory in the A- League. His decisions aren't dictated by Levy. The recruitment of Werner happened early in the window and a mid figure. This is what he did at Celtic also, did the business fast and cheaper than previous but had a plan for each position. Fact is that the recent decisions look like Postecoglou decisions, not decisions that Levy is known for in his history. As an Aussie, I am firmly on the bus with Ange and I think you'll join me by the end of next year.
Your not fan. No1 gives 2 hoots what ya think lad😢😢😢😢
If they are good enough ange will bring the kids in dont worry about he can mould to what he wants and he will give them the confidence
Chelsea spent a billion, where are they. ManU spent 95 million on Antony and around 60 million on Mount, where are they. 100 million players do not guarantee success
exactly. Ange backs himself to get the best out of players
It’s not about the money. It’s about wages. Spurs don’t pay their stars top wages. A superstar type will go Citeh, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man U etc because they top wages.
Stelios likes the sound of his own voice. Hates whoever doesn't agree with him. Mr Pep no2. Go support another club
Watch they’ll lose Timo, Skipp, Davis and Bentacur and sign another Tanguy Nbdombele 😂😂😂
What team did this guy play for. ? You need to build a squad 2 or 3 will not do it .
Stelios makes out that he knows about football the man has no clue he has never played the he said he done his level 3 which tells me he hasnt learned anything any person who has clue understands what ange is trying to implement and yes you dont need superstars in his system just players who are young fast and run allday they play the system i can allready see what he is foing ange ball when implement properly can not be defended against the goals will come from everywhere and we so that today
I played semi pro whereas you just played with yourself 👊💦
I said I am UEFA B qualified which is above Level 3 so get that right please and stop the lies.
Finally you have no clue how a 433 system and its variations work in all 3 phases of play including transition ready. I do know and I get speak to our academy director who's shown me how its its implemented in Ange's system you can ask Brian Dagul who I took with me to Hotspur Way so he could learn too.
Now stop trying to fake knowledge because you're jealous that I go on a live show and do not hide behind my keyboard like you posting what you read on Twitter.
Enjoy your handjob.
This man is a crack up. Flip flop. Dont take him seriously 😂
I think ange can do the treble next year and they would still call ange crap coach
I disagree.
@@TottenhamAwayTV with what? that Ange can do the treble or whether you'd still call him crap?
Why are people writing off Soloman? Thought he was quality in few games he played. Can beat his first man and can go outside or inside
Ange can only work with what he is given. Anything outside that, you cannot moan about.
Stelios now you are talking alot of sense listen stelio i know where you are coming from personally i have been a leeds supporter since childhood i have alleays like tottenham and now that ange is there even more we do need better players upfront and the midfield completely and utterly agree but is not silly ive known him since he played in the south Melbourne youth give him some time he will come through
Consider Timo signed PSR
Ange calm down mate and stay humble, we should not turn our nose up at top 4, what a cocky attitude mate. Yes we want to win the prem but we all know we are nowhere near the top 3 yet in our squad depth. To mount a serious challenge we will need a huge summer window to get us closer, Levy must spend, the gap is HUGE.
Mane and salah weren’t stars when Liverpool bought them so argument doesn’t stand
Mr flip flop
Im Ange Out if w sign Werner how is that a flip flop you silly person.
💯
@@TottenhamAwayTVmate your a fukn goose, read the room.
@Darrylm08 in all fairness, he was ange out in November when Ange played Richy as a number no9 (see the post on his channel from back then as much as he now denies it because he's a coward)
So very flip floppy to be ange out, then say he's never been, to now going back to it 😂
Ignore the haters Stel💪🌟🔥
Recruitment is the key. Have to make stel right there. Can you get the best players for the least money?
Even levy knows that's not realistic .
We need to stop playing son in the 9 role. That’s the biggest problem we have. Let Richie have a run of games. Son Left and rotate the right.
Relax Stelios, all is going well. You put on the manager hat. Good luck
The issue with saying werner is our origi is when Liverpool went up a level they sold him so my point is if we want to go up a level ourselves we need better then him
you imagine that being a Manager is just having a shopping list and a budget
I don’t usually agree with Stel!.. But he’s bang on!.. Kulu definitely needs to be moved on in the summer.
Just because he had one bad season dosent mean out look what he done when he signed
We struggled and looked fragile
This guy Stel is a toxic fan....he doesn't has anything positive thing to say about Spurs even if we won 6 or 7 nil.....he is always comparing and copying other clubs achievements spending huge $$$......Spurs will do it our way ,the Ange's way and it will be more sweeter that way.
What does he expects? Spurs to win the league in Ange's debut with less than a year in charge. Spurs has over-achieve in such a short period with 4th or 5th with massive changes to the system.....we can and will only improve next season.
I turn off as soon as I see stelios , can’t stand the guy and his cretinous opinions
for number 6 i will prefer youssouf fofana from monaco
Stel is the best manager the world has NOT seen.... sits in his bedroom talking ....mmmmm what did delboy say can you smell that Rodney.. what is it dog.. cat .. no its BULLSHIT😂
Thats very disrespectful stelios saying that ange is a yes man to mono kratos pou e ivrei never got there mits on is greece o angelos tha ton pai ton levi sto pixathi ke then tha ton afisi na pi
Ridiculous comment. Go support another club then
We can still steal Mbappe from Real 😂
This guy is suppose to be a "coach" right?
I don't know why you give someone who spreads hate a platform. This guy is an embarrassment who said ange out in November and blocks anyone that points out that he's a hypocrite 🤷♂️ not to mention he abuses people in comments then plays the victim
Stel knows
Fk all
@dariasstalbottson6067 yes he do
@dariasstalbottson6067 Takes everything literally. Doesn't possess the intellect to know when someone is playing. Grammar Nazi. No sensayuma. Must be fun at parties. Not!
@dariasstalbottson6067 no he don't? appalling grammar
This is not good, Just hating for no reason.
first
In my last post I meant to say didn’t cost the earth.
nobody realized or cared bro
such bs from Ange re: top 4 of course we care ,COYS
*listen* to what was *actually* said by Ange. "Couldn't care less about *the race* for 4th" - totally different meaning
Speaking facts ❤
You guys are talking nonsense.
Werner is one of the worst regular players we’ve had in some time. He looks great but is remarkably wasteful.
He's talking facts. We need major upgrades upfront if we want to go to another level
We only need a st or rw
Sign stell for center forward so we can pull him apart when he never scores
Stells a secret Liverpool fan