Persona - Velvet Room Evolution

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  • @sirspookybones1118
    @sirspookybones1118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2475

    I'm starting to think the velvet room is a place between dream and reality, mind and matter

    • @inciucio
      @inciucio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      No way!

    • @lashimarusanade
      @lashimarusanade 3 ปีที่แล้ว +180

      Are you serious? Thought it would be between ice cream and soup, stupidity and intelligence

    • @sirspookybones1118
      @sirspookybones1118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@lashimarusanade I may have been mistaken there then

    • @stuniontheonion1855
      @stuniontheonion1855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      I'm also pretty shure only people who have signed a contract are guests

    • @otroweonllamadoseba
      @otroweonllamadoseba 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Nah, it's just Igor's garaje

  • @silentspirit8923
    @silentspirit8923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3116

    Never trust an Igor that says:
    "Welcome to *my* Velvet Room."
    Always trust an Igor that says:
    "Welcome to *the* Velvet Room."

    • @Vio-Latta
      @Vio-Latta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Fact

    • @callist0star
      @callist0star 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      FACTS

    • @Ourii
      @Ourii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +146

      Persona 5 being my first Persona game, I feel HIGHLY offended

    • @hugglesnuggybear5822
      @hugglesnuggybear5822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@Ourii Did you beat it yet? Because there's a reason why.

    • @jevmenyt3422
      @jevmenyt3422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@Ourii you will know why in the future, dont be offended, it maskes sense. Return when you understand

  • @lucylu3342
    @lucylu3342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2770

    People who started on previous persona games before playing 5 probably noticed from the start something was strange about 5's Igor right away lol

    • @demarcoramos4041
      @demarcoramos4041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +352

      True, but truthfully i actually thought the voice in p5 was strange for some reason

    • @Astroyune
      @Astroyune 3 ปีที่แล้ว +483

      I'm one of those people. Started from P1 up to P5. Let's not sugar coat it - ATLUS didn't do a good job at hiding the fact that "Igor" wasn't Igor.

    • @Gwoblesto189
      @Gwoblesto189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Very very true

    • @invisibleair2156
      @invisibleair2156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +159

      @@Astroyune I mean I kinda forgot how igor's voice sounded at p3. So when I played p5 I didn't notice that his voice was weird asf.

    • @snailthelostcow63
      @snailthelostcow63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +242

      @@Astroyune it felt unwelcoming. Also, the fact that we can immediately notice something wrong with Igor kinda shows how familiar we are with him, eh?

  • @snailthelostcow63
    @snailthelostcow63 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2155

    Persona 5: "Welcome to MY velvet room"
    Yep he's a fake

    • @Ladywizard
      @Ladywizard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +271

      Especially when he claims he's the master of the velvet room when before he admitted he was just a servant/resident

    • @honglulimbuscompany
      @honglulimbuscompany 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@Ladywizard And also if you played the other persona games, I played in japanese and his voice is so much deeper

    • @Ladywizard
      @Ladywizard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@honglulimbuscompany Sadly haven't played them aside from persona 4 golden hoping p3 will come to steam next since doubt SONY will let P5 Royal hit PC for a while yet and from what I understand between 4 and 5 the Japanese VA died

    • @fagitocumaeda
      @fagitocumaeda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      My first game was p5 so i was shocked by the fake igor reveal lol

    • @demoriginal
      @demoriginal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ladywizard use a psp emulator

  • @loxnbagels9196
    @loxnbagels9196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +911

    Atlus...just let us see Igor sneeze once. Please. I need to know how his nose would react.

    • @DolanDuking
      @DolanDuking 3 ปีที่แล้ว +150

      it grows longer with every sneeze

    • @HammerGeoLarrup
      @HammerGeoLarrup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      I never knew how much I wanted to see that.

    • @andrewuy1294
      @andrewuy1294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      his nose would slap the back of his head

    • @matiasr6509
      @matiasr6509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      It pops off like a Russian doll revealing a smaller nose underneath

    • @conspiracypanda1200
      @conspiracypanda1200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It would bend in half before settling...kinda like a caterpillar.

  • @SuperFusionAJ93
    @SuperFusionAJ93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1271

    Persona 1-4: Welcome to the Velvet Room.
    Persona 5: Welcome to my Velvet Room
    5 is kind of SUS

    • @GabrieliosP
      @GabrieliosP 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Nice meme and all, shame it's incorrect. Igor says "my Velvet Room" in the Japanese script of P3.

    • @ginojose1550
      @ginojose1550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Persona 3:Elevator
      Persona 4:Limousine
      Persona 5:Prison

    • @icee1683
      @icee1683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@ginojose1550 Persona 6: Therapy room

    • @datpoyo4900
      @datpoyo4900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@icee1683 persona 7:Cemitery

    • @ginojose1550
      @ginojose1550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@icee1683
      Maybe.

  • @redcoma100
    @redcoma100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +746

    I think that Nameless & Belladonna are still in the Velvet Room just off screen doing their piano playing & singing. Or that is what I would like to think anyway.

    • @DaFro3713
      @DaFro3713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +189

      That’s the current theory as to why they don’t appear from 3 onward. They’re playing, but they’re out of sight, played through 3’s elevator speakers, 4’s sound system in the limo, and 5’s PA system in the prison

    • @werenostrangerstolove7739
      @werenostrangerstolove7739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      RIP painter tho

    • @SilentProti
      @SilentProti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Couldn't it because of different timelines?

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      you can hear them in the background

    • @satyamSaha
      @satyamSaha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@SilentProti no all of the persona games except for Persona 2 Innocent Sin are in the same timeline

  • @BuffMaister
    @BuffMaister  3 ปีที่แล้ว +904

    Atlus needs to stop forgetting about Nameless, Demon Painter, and Belladonna.

    • @thestealer63214
      @thestealer63214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Agreed. They were great.

    • @pn2294
      @pn2294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      They’ll show when Naoya and Tatsuya show up.

    • @HazelSeerBB
      @HazelSeerBB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      #BreakFreeBelladonaAndNameless

    • @aisadal2521
      @aisadal2521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Agreed! I would love to see Belladonna in 3D-HD!

    • @Terranigma23
      @Terranigma23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@thestealer63214 and Philemon. 😁

  • @paddythelegend1671
    @paddythelegend1671 3 ปีที่แล้ว +742

    5's Igor works SO FUCKING WELL for both newcomers to the franchise and veterans.
    Newcomers are obviously suspicious of Igor as he's a strange man who seems to be in charge of the prison your in and the velvet room in general. Even looking at the twins they seem pretty strange. One of them being straight up mean. And they apparently serve this man. But you learn that he is a good guy
    Veterans who are already familiar with the character are suprised by the voice change. But they may have heard about his original Japanese VA passing away so they decided to stick with the new voice for the English version. Or they just thought they were changing Igor's voice. And once again. The twins. Igor has never had servants this young. And small little things like they way he sits and talks. But you eventually just assume that it's the new direction they're going in for 5
    Either way the twist at the end kinda has you going in the back of your mind "I FUCKING KNEW SOMETHING WAS UP" no matter what player you are

    • @Koraki0000
      @Koraki0000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I agree it was an amazing plot twist

    • @dragonheart5349
      @dragonheart5349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I uh... Don't know what the twist is, and never suspected anything. Now I'm nervous. I only saw glimpses of 3, and knew that Igor was a good guy, so I've never suspected anything. Now I'm worried

    • @amiserablelittlepileofsecr856
      @amiserablelittlepileofsecr856 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      5 was my first game and when Igor stared speaking I was damm blown, because I saw a thing or two about the game in smash, and Igor was there and thought: "that guy has to have the silliest voice ever"
      Damm was I fooled.

    • @agedstring
      @agedstring 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There's also the caveat of P5 releasing internationally during a voice actor strike that started the year before, combine that with many Japanese game English dubs casting non-union actors in their games, veterans (at least those aware of those events) might put two-and-two together.

    • @riverkath
      @riverkath 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, I was a new player and I really liked his deep voice. I knew something was a little off but I do prefer his deep voice cuz- come on. But it’s nice that the real Igor cares a lot more for the player. BUT HOO BOY WHAT A PLOT TWIST

  • @Userdoesnotexist.0138
    @Userdoesnotexist.0138 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    Other Igors: Welcome to the velvet room
    P5R igor: W e l c o m e t o m y c r i b

  • @HazelSeerBB
    @HazelSeerBB 3 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    Elizabeth, what happen to Nameless and Belladona?
    Elizabeth: Nyarlatotep ate their faces

  • @magicalcapi9148
    @magicalcapi9148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    I always imagine someone called Nameless *too normal* for the Velvet Room, so he promptly took his tie off, wrapped around his eyes and called it a day.

  • @Whit3WolfXArcadia
    @Whit3WolfXArcadia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +417

    Pretty sure a library will be the next velvet room in persona 6

    • @abhijaytambe8455
      @abhijaytambe8455 3 ปีที่แล้ว +254

      hey, igor, I'd like to fuse some persona-
      Igor: Shhh this is a library

    • @bluesquirt7117
      @bluesquirt7117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I hope it's happened

    • @ils4844
      @ils4844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Definitely seems like a nice concept.

    • @bentvk2248
      @bentvk2248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Never thought of that, nice idea

    • @datpoyo4900
      @datpoyo4900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Fusing the Personas are like pages flying around and the attendant book Em
      To The fusion fail.its the attendant Using the Wrong book or One of the Personas slips away and they Just grabs It with force and puts It bac in

  • @datpoyo4900
    @datpoyo4900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +193

    26:05
    Every Other Wildcard: *WHOA Yu,How come Your Mom let's You fuse 12 Personas at once?*

    • @Fermin-hw5pd
      @Fermin-hw5pd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I'm playing Portable, and I thought, "wait 12 Personas??", didn't remember that xd

  • @Supperdude9
    @Supperdude9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +298

    No, Igor is right. It isn't his Velvet Room. It's Philemon's. Yeah, if you were a hardcore Persona fan, P5 should have raised flags.

    • @ajojofann
      @ajojofann 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      philemon stopped being an actual character after persona 2, not being involved in the story at all. they only really left him as a reference to the older persona games. P3 and P4's velvet rooms might as well be Igor's, since the designs are so different.
      There's not even a trace of him in P5 or P5R, so yeah. Basically booted off the series

    • @ubiratanmagalhaes7013
      @ubiratanmagalhaes7013 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@ajojofannNuh uh. He is the blue butterfly in P3 and P4. Only in P5 he didn't appear

    • @RedJLP
      @RedJLP 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ubiratanmagalhaes7013 The butterfly in P5 is Lavenza most of the time, that’s fair, but after she and Igor say their goodbyes to Ren at the end, how would it make sense for her to be the butterfly after they both vanished? She got *that* attached to her Wild Card? The only answer that makes sense is that she’s not that butterfly, but Philemon is

  • @lunolionreacts2362
    @lunolionreacts2362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    Igor sure is a great character, with the help of his assistants he went as far as recruiting and guiding 5 gifted high school persona users to save the world from ruin, and something tells me his job won't end with joker

    • @medjed7268
      @medjed7268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      6 gifted high schoolers, an adult and a robot

    • @lunolionreacts2362
      @lunolionreacts2362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@medjed7268 i know that by 6 you're including minako and by robot you mean aegis but who is the adult?

    • @medjed7268
      @medjed7268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@lunolionreacts2362 6 gifted high schoolers referring to Naoya, Tatsuya, Minato and Minako, Yu and Akira.
      Aigis, who is the robot.
      And Maya, the adult protagonist in P2 Eternal Punishment

    • @lunolionreacts2362
      @lunolionreacts2362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@medjed7268 im surprise you know the names of the P1 and P2 protagonists usually those 2 are as neglected as kris from Fire emblem 12

    • @medjed7268
      @medjed7268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@lunolionreacts2362 I've played all the persona games.... Sadly, I wish p1 and p2 could be brought up more.

  • @patrickhaisayang8825
    @patrickhaisayang8825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    Everytime new persona released Igor nose growing longer
    And yet they still Atlus still forget Velvet Room Boss

  • @DekuScrub_
    @DekuScrub_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    I started with Persona 4, and I honestly love how over exaggerated Igor sounds in Persona 3 lmao

    • @sevoid6524
      @sevoid6524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We all do.

  • @rafo6303
    @rafo6303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Igor: Welcome to my Velvet Room
    The fuck did u say

  • @MrRasputin497
    @MrRasputin497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    i like how in P2 everyone in the velvet room helps with the fusion,and its not only Igor playing with cards

  • @Michael-yf6bl
    @Michael-yf6bl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Is it just me or is his nose getting progressively longer!?

    • @medjed7268
      @medjed7268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Knows.....

    • @AyaanZaz
      @AyaanZaz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Who nose?

    • @manupm9161
      @manupm9161 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And pointier

  • @brandongreenland9632
    @brandongreenland9632 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Belladonna, Nameless and Demon Painter; the first assistants.

  • @vitopasco8266
    @vitopasco8266 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Fact: the velvet rooms in 3 4 5 have some form of waiting
    3:waiting for the elevator to reach it floor
    4:waiting for the limo to reach its destination
    5:waiting for you to be free from prison
    6 (speculation): waiting to recover from your wounds in a hospital

    • @ChloroFluoroHexane
      @ChloroFluoroHexane 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's very clever

    • @RedJLP
      @RedJLP 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And that waiting has to do with the themes of the story.
      3: the finite nature of life, so the elevator is ascending to heaven
      4: the fog of lies surrounds the limo and so only by clearing it can you reach your destination
      5: a society that demands constant conformity in all forms feels like it chains up those who can’t play by the rules even if they want to

  • @palletdrop3297
    @palletdrop3297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Ya know I really like how it starts playing” Erik satie -once upon a time in Paris”after the usual velvet room music plays in p2.

    • @RileyB_226
      @RileyB_226 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

    • @Xenosaga
      @Xenosaga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      bussy 😫

    • @palletdrop3297
      @palletdrop3297 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry guys I didn’t mean de bussy, I meant this guy
      th-cam.com/video/b9WKC5sT9Z4/w-d-xo.html
      Great song

    • @RileyB_226
      @RileyB_226 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@palletdrop3297 yeah

    • @sanicboi9187
      @sanicboi9187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nameless do be playing classical doe 😳

  • @noxturne16
    @noxturne16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    persona 1 and 2 will always have my favorite velvet room, mostly because of nameless and belladonna

  • @olegoose574
    @olegoose574 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I just realized that Demon Painter was modeled after Kazuma Kaneko, the official artist of Megaten franchise. That’s a nice detail.

    • @NoelJohnCarlo
      @NoelJohnCarlo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He looks like Jia Xu, to be honest... Wait a minute... Is Jia Xu was inspired by him?!

  • @nicklancial7103
    @nicklancial7103 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    personally the moment he called it "my" velvet room in the original PS5 i thought something was fishy especially with that deep voice ....even if they'd changed Igor's VA they wouldn't of made such a massive change in the tone unless they had no other choice .....I feel like if this series ever hits like 10 or 11 someday at the end of a game we'll have ALL the siblings of the velvet room standing behind Igor kinda like the scene at the end of DB Super when all the angels were standing behind their dad the prime minister lol

  • @hylianheadache5856
    @hylianheadache5856 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Ve-ve-ve
    Velvet Room
    My master has a very long nose

  • @Heekfull
    @Heekfull 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Persona 3 The Answer Velvet Room really hit different... Especially when Igor started talking about P3MC...

    • @angelinaarecco4
      @angelinaarecco4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And that's why a remaster is happening is ATLUS correcting it's past mistakes and porting those games to other than just playstation and that's fair.

    • @backupschmliff1156
      @backupschmliff1156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@angelinaarecco4 Every Persona but Persona 5 should be on switch

    • @geoshmeo1900
      @geoshmeo1900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For me its both P2 velvet rooms that hit different. Both playing classical pieces of music, and EP for having a broken up, empty version of Aria of the Soul that has never been replicated

    • @atoaster9940
      @atoaster9940 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@backupschmliff1156 Hah. Yeah....

    • @cax1175
      @cax1175 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@backupschmliff1156Cope

  • @ManFace1337
    @ManFace1337 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Igor's art went from MS Paint to a high-quality art

  • @finnpearson6441
    @finnpearson6441 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    WOW it was dead ass the Black Lodge in Persona 1 and 2. That's great

  • @parkouremaster
    @parkouremaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    It's supposedly that belladona and nameless are the ones who do the velvet room song, but where are they in persona 3 and after? behind curtains singing?

    • @sanicboi9187
      @sanicboi9187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Most likely, I saw a comment that said in persona 5 they would most likely be on the prison's PA system

    • @Sorrelhas
      @Sorrelhas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Live performances are expensive
      My boy Igor be rocking that iPod

    • @jahcreator
      @jahcreator ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Sorrelhas what is an eye pod? 😅

  • @II-gj1jw
    @II-gj1jw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I’m calling it. Persona 6’s velvet room is gonna be a train or a plane.

    • @edwardsimpson119
      @edwardsimpson119 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There's a place that's legendary among Persona users. For those in the know, it's called the Velvet Room. Whatever Personas you want to fuse, the Velvet Room's got you covered. Want to fuse a Salome with a Piccolos? Velvet Room.

    • @HolsovanUltimate
      @HolsovanUltimate 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Something modern would be neat

    • @BeybladeASMRreviews
      @BeybladeASMRreviews 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Welp… a train’s out of the question now lmao

    • @tonyli7752
      @tonyli7752 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Persona 6 is just Igor in a bathtub.

  • @AArchetype..
    @AArchetype.. ปีที่แล้ว +17

    They treat Narukami like a king.. while makoto got an elevator and joker got a fucking prison🤣

    • @jaydenlobbe7911
      @jaydenlobbe7911 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And the P1 and P2 cast just get a boring old room, no special theme for it, it’s just a room

  • @mirjimcstinky8701
    @mirjimcstinky8701 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Its interesting that the Velvet Room existed in past games. I've never played any Persona games aside from P5R so it's a bit of a cool surprise

    • @bentvk2248
      @bentvk2248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Yup, Igor and the Velvet room have been there since the beginning. I just wish his master Philemon would make at least one more appearance in a future persona game

    • @alexandercorbett1147
      @alexandercorbett1147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@bentvk2248 My prediction is that they might bring Philemon back for Persona 6. He technically always has been there anyways I think. In P5, when Joker was awakening Arsene, a butterfly flew past him and in P1 and P2, Philemon took the form of a butterfly in the physical world (but the Metaverse isn't part of the physical world so... eh?).

    • @SuperMisteryMan01
      @SuperMisteryMan01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@alexandercorbett1147 a butterfly is also what you see in the beginning of the game when Lavensa is speaking to you about the importance of your bonds/confidants. I take it now that it’s a hint towards Philemon helping give the message maybe

    • @atoaster9940
      @atoaster9940 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@SuperMisteryMan01 Also during persona 3, the butterfly follows Makoto and leaves after his death, to officially conclude his adventure. He came back to help Aigis in The Answer, and is the save point for Yu in persona 4

    • @mahpell7173
      @mahpell7173 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@alexandercorbett1147It has been officially confirmed that P5 butterflies are always Lavensa. Apparently Philemon has something better to do than watching same old ruin overcome again and again. XD

  • @samthomas7253
    @samthomas7253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    My favourite part of the earlier velvet rooms is how there's a piano player and a singer and they're playing Aria of the Soul - it's just a nice little touch.

  • @LillyWhiteFairy
    @LillyWhiteFairy ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You know Philemon is a badass when even Igor calls him master.

  • @FaizFS3
    @FaizFS3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    i can tell how long this man lives by just looking at his nose

  • @nemesiswontdie
    @nemesiswontdie ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Always loved how P1's velvet room was very clearly taken from The Red Room in Twin Peaks.

  • @thomasfairburn5254
    @thomasfairburn5254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Since the JP actor for Igor is dead and they tried to reuse his old voice lines for the real Igor in P5 following the awesome twist that was Yaldabaoth as fake Igor with what we thought was a replacement VA. Question lies is will we see Igor again or is P5 the last time? Unless they plan to keep reusing the old voice lines and keep the rest of his dialogue non voiced and I don't think they'd do another Yaldy twist. With Jose introduced back in P5R, people believe he is another of Philemon's creations and may be the successor for Igor going forward in the series.

    • @jeschoofs
      @jeschoofs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I honestly don’t think the VA dying matters. They’re probably gonna get someone who’s really good at replicating his voice

    • @youngmastereraqueez9558
      @youngmastereraqueez9558 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@jeschoofs From what I hear, in Japan it kinda is important.

    • @puffpuffpassmako
      @puffpuffpassmako 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@youngmastereraqueez9558 Japan Doesn't replace old VAs usually, but it's mostly done when the VA dies or they destroy their career from scandals. The voice of Heihachi from Tekken was replaced due to his passing, and he voiced him for two decades. Hanimura from Judgement was replaced due to drug charges. So unless you die or get in a scandal, Japan doesn't replace them usually

    • @fallentrash1673
      @fallentrash1673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Japan doesn't replace their voice actors unless they are desperately needed for story relevance, like what happened to Xehanort.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fallentrash1673 Miyu Matsuki's roles were replaced pretty easily.
      minus Lailah from Tales of Zestiria, who was supposed to show up in Tales of Berseria, but was cut due to Matsuki's death.

  • @Webo250
    @Webo250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I'm pretty sure hardcore Persona fans knew something was wrong as soon as they heard Igor speak in Persona 5

    • @matchamochi781
      @matchamochi781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Most assumed it was just the voice actor change

    • @coffeepuma896
      @coffeepuma896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@matchamochi781 *spoiler*
      Towards the end of the game it turns out that Igor is not really Igor but a god of control who impersonated him to bring Ren Amamiya (The protagonist) to destruction and death. And then the real Igor is released and his voice actor is the same as in the old games. So the big persona fans (including me) understood that something was weird.
      And also in the old games Igor welcomes us saying: "Welcome to the Velvet room" but in P5 it says: "Welcome to my Velvet room"

    • @player2-lightwater914
      @player2-lightwater914 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@matchamochi781 For the English version, Igor's VA was changed from Dan Woren to Kirk Thornton. In Japanese, it's still the same but his voice was archive audio from his late voice actor

    • @ejelecflametails6657
      @ejelecflametails6657 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@player2-lightwater914
      Ultimately for Persona 3 Reload, in the Japanese version Igor has a new VA, while in the English version it's Kirk again

    • @player2-lightwater914
      @player2-lightwater914 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ejelecflametails6657 In Persona 5: The Phantom X, Igor is voiced Hochu Otsuka. For some reason, Hochu isn't voicing Igor in Reload and instead by Bin Shimada, who also reprising his role as Tanaka.

  • @aoife-oh9si
    @aoife-oh9si 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    *fusing Mara*
    Igor: “Is this Persona acceptable?”
    Me: “No”

  • @Kumire_921
    @Kumire_921 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    1:54 Standing igor is nightmare fuel..

  • @NoodleGoreng
    @NoodleGoreng 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    P2:EP map music is a banger.

    • @medjed7268
      @medjed7268 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Battle quest theme is better

  • @zondor8123
    @zondor8123 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Didn't know there was a singer and a pianist, so where are they now though😂

  • @randompersononytig
    @randompersononytig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    P1, P2IS, P2EP, P3, P5: Velvet Room
    P4: VELVET VROOM!!!
    I found this joke a while ago, I’m giving credit to the one who made it, idk remember who though :/

  • @station428
    @station428 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love that the song has never changed, not even a little bit (except for Reload, that broke the streak)

    • @rosej2250
      @rosej2250 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Belladonna and Nameless will actually occasionally switch it up in Persona 2! In addition to the iconic Aria of the Soul, they have a few classical pieces they'll randomly play instead when you enter the room. I guess it's gotta be a little boring for them to perform the same song every time. 😅

  • @LightningZerker
    @LightningZerker ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This just reminded me that in the Persona collaboration event in Bang Dream, the Velvet Room makes a cameo appearance in the story and it is heavily based off Persona 1 and 2's Velvet Room.
    Funny how Bushiroad throws P1 and P2 fans a bone and Atlus just forgets about them.

  • @CleanSockQ
    @CleanSockQ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The only thing I see changing is Igor's cheesy grin

  • @taarguson
    @taarguson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I wonder if the first two games iterations of the Velvet Room were inspired by Twin Peak's Red Room at all

    • @invisibleair2156
      @invisibleair2156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      they are inspired by twin peak's tho

    • @ils4844
      @ils4844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      They are. Obscure japan PSX titles were inspired a fuckton by David Lynch back in the day, for instance in the game "The Silver Case" by Suda51 an important location in the game is titled "Mulholland Drive."

  • @LillyWhiteFairy
    @LillyWhiteFairy ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I always thought lavenza would call Philemon her master's master.

  • @GiordanDiodato
    @GiordanDiodato 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    24 years of seeing a man with a very long nose

  • @rdii861
    @rdii861 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    For the next video I recommend "Persona: Game Over Evolution", oh and include both the early game & late game versions of it, for example:
    (Persona 5 spoiler)
    In Early game the message is something about "Being part of the Cog now" but in Yaldy it's "Now the real world & shadow world will fuse together".

  • @Majimba_Enjoyer
    @Majimba_Enjoyer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    from room to elevator to limo to a fucking prison

  • @jessepeterson6694
    @jessepeterson6694 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    One thing that has certainly never changed is Igor's daper gentlemenly look, his nose on the other hand. (Seriously, was it ALWAYS longer in P1 through 3 then it is in 4 & 5?)
    Edit: Wait a minute, after close inspection, i think only P1 and P2 were the only ones his nose has been the longest.

  • @Fermin-hw5pd
    @Fermin-hw5pd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Mr Burns in his free time

  • @jamesofhoenn4790
    @jamesofhoenn4790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Spoiler for P5

    28:49
    this line was definitely foreshadowing that it wasn’t actually Igor.
    The velvet room is a state of being, so why would the overseer call it “… my velvet room” when he never called it his up until now? Jaldebeoth didn’t fully understand the nature of the Velvet Room, only that Igor oversaw it, so he made the mistake of calling it his.

  • @SpiritualAura96
    @SpiritualAura96 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Out there ideas I’ve had for the velvet room:
    -a clinic/trauma center/hospital
    -library
    -ballroom
    -aquarium
    -planetarium
    -circus
    -castle
    -motel/hotel/mansion
    -graveyard
    -junkyard
    -theater (not counting PQ2 and more like a stage play sort of theater)
    -church
    -virtual reality/video game (which would be ironic and funny)
    The whole velvet room and it changing designs is so odd yet so interesting and fascinating that it could pretty much be anything, can’t wait to see what they’ll do for the next one 🤩

    • @MrTailson1
      @MrTailson1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I really love the two ideas of it being a Hospital and a Library.

    • @FreckledGoddess
      @FreckledGoddess ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love the ballroom idea.

    • @RubyRedPhoenix413
      @RubyRedPhoenix413 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      For the trauma center idea, it would be cool if the protagonist were to make the fusions themselves with operations and the assistance of the velvet room attendants. The failed fusion could be a botched surgery where the attendant/s take over your failure.

    • @SpiritualAura96
      @SpiritualAura96 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RubyRedPhoenix413 holy shit, you pretty much guessed how it would’ve worked in that scenario 😂🤩👍
      While not exactly, it’s pretty much spot on! 🤩👍

    • @dantecrailman8861
      @dantecrailman8861 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The aquarium one got put in Persona 5: X lol

  • @Twizer911
    @Twizer911 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bro HAD to fuse that Persona in P3

  • @ils4844
    @ils4844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Based twin peaks red room styled P1 P2 velvet room.

  • @killermath9519
    @killermath9519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Honestly, a prequel Persona game (like Persona Zero or something) would actually be pretty cool

    • @medomaru5168
      @medomaru5168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      i mean, smt if is basically just that

    • @satyamSaha
      @satyamSaha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Shin Megami Tensei If... exists

    • @bagget48
      @bagget48 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Raidou Kuzunoha's duology is basically Persona series prequel

    • @alexandercorbett1147
      @alexandercorbett1147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Shin Megami Tensei...if

  • @MarioSonicDKPokeFAN
    @MarioSonicDKPokeFAN 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Velvet Room music is iconic to me. And a staple to the series. Would love for Belladonna and Nameless to make a return though. How many years has it been?

  • @lfvgamerbro
    @lfvgamerbro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Theory: While Joker/Akira/Ren is yet again trapped under the chains of captivity under gods will, Igor isn’t present within the velvet room. Thus, Lavenza confirming that her master is on “vacation”. Which means, he’s probably helping the Persona 6 protagonist on his/her journey

  • @AlexxxMYLSince2013
    @AlexxxMYLSince2013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I just Met the three original Velvet room assistants but i wish they shown up in other games well not only them Atlus should stop ignoring P1 and P2 in their entirety.

  • @HQ-rblx
    @HQ-rblx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Came here to see the difference between Igor’s voice when he was kidnapped.

  • @styxranger436
    @styxranger436 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was completely blind to persona when I played 5 but hearing Igor's voice in 5 made me think he was pretty sus

  • @user-nt2xm6cm1e
    @user-nt2xm6cm1e 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never played the first few games but I can see the Twin Peaks inspiration is really palpable. Even the name "Velvet Room" is very on the nose, so to speak.

  • @jedimasterpickle3
    @jedimasterpickle3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Minor complaint: I think that Persona 5's Persona fusion should have been shown off since all the previous versions were. Instead, you just showed the introductions to the fake and real residents. Not to mention the other facilities and uses.

  • @editmanrgg2844
    @editmanrgg2844 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video Buff

  • @UliTroyo
    @UliTroyo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh, I love that in the first game, the Twin Peaks vibe is more palpable

  • @SpiritofFireMrVader
    @SpiritofFireMrVader 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Yep, still looking bizzare.

  • @thunder9289
    @thunder9289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Igor is really scary in persona 2, I think is for the 3d model or idk, maybe the eye

  • @roleemack1535
    @roleemack1535 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next one going be something wouldn't be surprised it be like a tower or something just going up there with stairs etc.

  • @lobsterdestroyer
    @lobsterdestroyer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love Igor's voice in persona 3 and 4

  • @sykezera
    @sykezera ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i think the true velvet room are the friends that we make in our jorney

  • @senjuziyad4780
    @senjuziyad4780 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like the concept of the room in 2
    It has the pianist the singer and the painter
    The music is actually there not a gameplay addition

  • @tonyli7752
    @tonyli7752 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Except for the obviously stated Persona 5 ''Igor'' Saying ''Welcome to MY velvet room''
    The fake one also says ''I am Igor, the MASTER of this place. Remember it well''
    While the real Igor will always say he is a resident.

  • @ShadubaDraw
    @ShadubaDraw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I played P5 first and assumed he was like that in every game. I was probably one of the few that was genuinely surprised at the reveal!

  • @ramadanisaputra3387
    @ramadanisaputra3387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I want to be his assistant in the velvet room

  • @backupschmliff1156
    @backupschmliff1156 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Since Persona 1 and 2 are most connected to each other, and Persona 3 and 4 are somewhat connected to each other, maybe that means Persona 5 and 6 will be connected loosely. There are rumors that Persona 6 will be involved with the law, so maybe Makoto will make a cameo?

    • @vinegar4556
      @vinegar4556 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eh, honestly, you could say 4 was fairly connected with 5 as well, in the same way pre-Arena 4 was connected to 3.
      I know for certain that Rise and Adachi both made cameos in 5, and don't quote me on this, but I believe Chie did as well.

    • @player2-lightwater914
      @player2-lightwater914 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vinegar4556 Past Persona characters were mentioned on TV in LeBlanc cafe. The characters that got mentioned are Katsuya Suou, Yukari Takeba, Akihiko Sanada, Yukiko Amagi, Chie Satonaka, Rise Kujikawa, Taro Namatame and Tohru Adachi.
      Outside of the TV in LeBlanc, Naoto Shirogane was mentioned as the original Detective Prince when a talk show host mentioned about Akechi being the second one. Teddie's bear suit appear as a doll which can be received as a gift from Haru. Rise's poster about her new album can be seen at the subway.

  • @eiiesig2651
    @eiiesig2651 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    persona 4 had the best igor voice

  • @dakotaatv1238
    @dakotaatv1238 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love persona 4's velvet vroom

  • @mspeter97
    @mspeter97 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I keep forgetting that the velve room used to be an actual room with someone singing & someone at the piano.

  • @SpeedMaster642
    @SpeedMaster642 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I knew something was off with “Igor” in 5 because of his voice. Sure it could’ve just been a new voice actor, but not once did he or the twins refer to the player as guest. These two things threw up red flags.

  • @whammett
    @whammett 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    demon artist my boo

  • @hikennoace343
    @hikennoace343 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder why they changed his portrait in persona 5 his 3&4 portrait is perfect

  • @quiroz91
    @quiroz91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such a cool twin peaks reference

  • @SilentProti
    @SilentProti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Doesn't Igor look like Cheshire cat from the video game in human form?

  • @mrkoyunreis
    @mrkoyunreis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:57 these demons be going crazy inside the curtain 💀

  • @rhovrox9291
    @rhovrox9291 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LMAO. The first game and 2nd game literally has a singer and a pianist in the velvet room. I can't 💀

  • @escanor7938
    @escanor7938 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    20.20 the LEGENDARY... MARA

  • @KirbyIsCute
    @KirbyIsCute 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "You were truly a interesting guest."
    "Aw shucks, I bet you say that to all the guests you get."

  • @Salamander-11
    @Salamander-11 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At least Igor had the actual singer and pianist in the room with him in the first and second game.

  • @lucasprestes
    @lucasprestes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Persona 2 Igor can't hurt you, persona 2 Igor can't hurt you!😱

  • @blurook
    @blurook ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I first heard Igor in the trailer for P5 I knew some bullshit was going on

  • @thenightowl1835
    @thenightowl1835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Igor has been through this action countless times with different people could they be linked?

  • @rougedog580
    @rougedog580 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey look its penguin from Batman

  • @twelve4878
    @twelve4878 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm proud of being a persona fan from the start and not from P5

    • @Galo_do_drip
      @Galo_do_drip ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I started with persona 3, and I intend to play the other four

  • @hummusprince
    @hummusprince 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the mara fusion

  • @user-pe8mv8vb8d
    @user-pe8mv8vb8d 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Igor: Welcome to the velvet room!
    Bender (Futurama): Shut up baby i know it!