THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I've been looking for a bed lift that was not motorized, not difficult & didn't cost an arm & a leg. I appreciate you posting the answer we needed! 😀
That’s really smart. I’ve been trying to figure out how to do a drop down bed with spending a small fortune. This is it. Thanks so much for sharing. Well done. 👍😊💯
Great idea. I'm going to do the same! For additional height cause I have a 6.3, I'll skip the mattress and just use a blow up and deflate when done. That way I can crank all the way to the top with only the bed frame touching the ceiling. Thanks for the video BC!
I’ve been so nervous about drilling holes on the inside of my trailer. Thank you so much for your detailed instructions! Finally a video that is exactly what I needed!
I was in the same position not a great feeling just make sure what ever you screw into the walls is not the thickness of the wall what I did was use a self tapping screw and would start the hole then pull them out and snapped the self tapping part off and screw the rest of the screw in. Just trying to use what I had on hand. Just follow the screws from top to bottom this will help locate the frame. Thank you for watching and happy I could help!
THIS IS GREAT. a DIY I can do myself. Ive been searching "lifted" bed ideas so my bed would drop from the ceiling. I want to have room to work out and then go to bed. I CAN DO THIS. going to make make the bottom look like the ceiling. THANK YOU
I agree I looked into the actuators and they are a lot of money. Adding some cabinets so I working on a improved bed lift which I’ll be posting in the coming months! Thanks for watching!
The beauty of this design is that in the up position, there are basically no lines, guides, tracks on the side to get in the way of the living area below.
This was so helpful I love it thank you for sharing this, I'm using this idea in my bedroom the only thing is I'll be pulling it up and letting it down by hand so it is quieter. So much more affordable than all the other ideas I've seen. Again thank you
THANK YOU. This is exactly what I need. I'm trying to make a drop-down paint booth for my shop and I couldn't figure out how to raise and lower it from the ceiling. This will work perfectly.
This gives me inspiration for a bed lift using cables. I want to set it up so that I press a button and it magically moves up, but I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to do that in an elegant yet cheap solution. I need a lot of height to move, so those hydraulic lift ideas weren't a good choice... I imagine routing all of the cables to the left or right side and hiding them in the ceiling would be perfect
I was looking for linear actuators, they were all very expensive ($1K+)after all the electronics. This is so much easier (and cheaper). Thanks, great video, keep it up. John S.
I was thinking the same thing, all these expensive options to lift a bed that can be easily hand cranked and would be faster to deploy and put away with a drill. Good job!
Check out my other bed lift video I did turned out much easier and to be honest although a drill would be fast and easy for the couple of turns of a crank I prefer it over the drill.
Nice diy job. Would be good if your winch was permanently attached to the cross member. Maybe an upgrade would be to be able to turn it 180 degrees, so it’s facing down when a seat, and up when you need to raise/lower the bed.
Quick, fast and easy! love it! will probably do something similar but you should round the bottom tip of those 2x4 so when you lower it they will self alight better and they wont get caught on edge of E-track bracket and maybe you wont even have to get at the back to re align it.
Good call you are right trying to align it can be a hassle sometimes. I am currently working on some cabinets which is going to hinder my bed lift system however I’ve got something even better in the works hopefully have the video up in the next couple of months!
I’m planning to do something very similar but have the ropes go over a pulley on the roof and attach yo a monkey bar so I can just use my body weight to raise and lower the bed, just gotta come up with an automatic latching mechanism now
Best explanation yet, thank you. Any idea how I could use a similar set up but more hidden and permanent for nightly deployment? Again thanks subbed in appreciation
I think if you had more head space it would help hide the bed. I made a second bed lift video with a better system which is also posted on my channel. I recently purchased a new trailer and will be doing a bed that folds against the wall. Thank you for subscribing!
Hi bud, could flush fit hoists work, being proper close to the roof? Also may I suggest guiding wheels on all four corners in both axis and another couple hoists atop the winch so you don't need to connect/disconnect? :) It might also be worth stripping a cheap mains drill, hardwiring and fixing it to the van/hoist with a replaced trigger for an up/down button :)
Currently working on a new design that is located underneath the bed so it’s all built into one but a manual system. Guiding wheel would definitely help however I am trying to keep the build as cheap as possible. Sounds like you could engineer a pretty nice system!
I'm making something similar but heavy duty for my studio apartment. The rachet is a great lightweight idea (I'll be using counterweights and a pulley system)
If that winch is necessary to lift it then the wall mounts are not strong enough (they will break due to fatigue at some point, even if it worked so far). Need beefier metal there. But thumbs on all the other thoughts.
Do you travel with your bed in the upright position? I’m using the same type of system and was concerned that the wall studs were able to support the weight. My studs are 16” on center.
I have no idea why the manufactured happy Jack system is so expensive I mean you literally have to build most of it yourself you're basically getting the rails in a motor anybody can buy that
Good project. The commercially sold set-ups seem to me to be outrageously overpriced. So very cool. A tip. Anything you see a commercially sold bed winch system doing- you can also do. So long as your pulleys aren't at some odd angle, the rope will smoothly glide, the bed will go up evenly. Many commercially made set-ups are insanely overbuilt for absolutely no good reason. (Too often RV and trailer things are grossly and stupidly overbuilt.) What I'd want to do is 1. Do double pulleys so you have to pull the lines twice as far but they require half the effort to do it. 2. I'd run the lines on one side under the bed so your winch/crank is on the wall on the other side where it'd be out of the way. and 3. I'd make it so a hand crank could lift it. With this system you'd have a single line run from the crank to all four corners (probably tied to the front right side of the bed and then the rope would come off the front left side to the crank. ) Also because you have the brackets to hold the bed, any slight unevenness would just require you to loosen up the rope a little once the bed is lined up in the brackets. The single line pulley arrangement is a bit of a puzzle, but not at all difficult to figure out. While it seems complex, it really isn't. (Two pulleys on the front right, then 3 pulleys on each of the other corners. So 11 pulleys total. ) (If your bed raises 3.5 feet: with double lines on 4 corners- that would be 3.5' x 4 sides x 2 times = 28 feet to roll up. Sounds like a lot but the effort would be minimal (each turn on a 4" diameter drum, could wind up a foot, so 28 cranks. If the bed weighed 40lbs, you'd be lifting 20 pounds at the drum . Your effort depends on how long the crank handle is. Maybe 8" - (16" diameter), so 4:1 advantage. 5 lbs at the handle- Easy.) Dyneema line would be smaller in diameter, very strong, slides easily and is less likely to chafe. I wouldn't go smaller than 3/16" because your biggest problem will be the line skipping out of the pulley sheaves. (btw I haven't made a van bed, but I've done all this before.) I can see someone spending $100,000 on a 4x4 Sprinter van conversion, but then DIYing the lifting bed because it would be so much better. (Also the ply forr the bed? I made a bunk for the back of my car out of 1/2" luan from HomeD - very light weight. To make it rigid I glued (and screwed then removed the screws) two 1" strips about 4" in from the sides (24" wide) - too lightweight for your larger bed, but the concept is simple. Looks like your bed is pretty lightweight. I always keep in mind 2x8 joists 16" OC and 3/4 ply (standard house construction) can hold 2000 pound/square foot. (You can park a car in your living room.) You used 2x4s but your bed is still much stronger than it needs to be. Your blocking is very smart; clearly you know what you're doing. I'm a big fan of spruce 2x3s (look for the spruce ones - very pale yellow - kiln dried, they also come Douglas Fir - much heavier - but still good. Spruce is just amazing wood - when I build stuff out of it I always remember it's what the Wright Brothers built the first airplane with and the second, and everybody else through the 1930s) Also drill some holes in the plywood. If you get any moisture between the bed and the ply and it can't vent and dry, you'll get mold growing. Sorry to be such a busy body.
KISS! Keep It Simple Stupid. Great job and exactly the idea I was looking around for. I have researched murphy beds and bed lift systems relentlessly for awhile and this is the ticket! Thank You!! I already have the E Track etc; and wanted to still use the cargo trailer for other things also.
Could you tell me where to find/ what the name is of the brackets? Those look perfect for what I want to do, but I’m having a hard time finding them when I search.
god that's a lil ghetto but it's honestly fucking GENIUS; it really highlights how affordable something can be made with the right ingenuity and skill. THANK you for uploading, this has been a tremendous inspiration for the bed design I wanna build.
haha Yes Ghetto!!! However you are right cant beat the price and it works for one person thats all that matters to me! Happy I could provide some inspiration!!!! :)
Advice ; stared your videos off with a preview of the finish production then show the steps on how you did it ... This will make video look more youtubish
So you have to use the whole trailer to do a bed lift. What you're going to do with the extra rope in the way. dry your clothes. Very dangerous set up when traveling.
The ropes can be removed and once its lifted and brackets are installed you can take the ropes down. I agree its alot of things in the way but I am working on a solution next month to take care of all this. A new bed lift which will all be located below the bed. Make sure you stay tuned for this!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I've been looking for a bed lift that was not motorized, not difficult & didn't cost an arm & a leg. I appreciate you posting the answer we needed! 😀
That’s really smart. I’ve been trying to figure out how to do a drop down bed with spending a small fortune. This is it. Thanks so much for sharing. Well done. 👍😊💯
Very ingenious!! Well done!!
Hugs Gramma Val
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Great idea. I'm going to do the same! For additional height cause I have a 6.3, I'll skip the mattress and just use a blow up and deflate when done. That way I can crank all the way to the top with only the bed frame touching the ceiling. Thanks for the video BC!
I’ve been so nervous about drilling holes on the inside of my trailer. Thank you so much for your detailed instructions! Finally a video that is exactly what I needed!
I was in the same position not a great feeling just make sure what ever you screw into the walls is not the thickness of the wall what I did was use a self tapping screw and would start the hole then pull them out and snapped the self tapping part off and screw the rest of the screw in. Just trying to use what I had on hand. Just follow the screws from top to bottom this will help locate the frame.
Thank you for watching and happy I could help!
This is the coolest most rednock awesomeness I've ever seen
THIS IS GREAT. a DIY I can do myself. Ive been searching "lifted" bed ideas so my bed would drop from the ceiling. I want to have room to work out and then go to bed. I CAN DO THIS. going to make make the bottom look like the ceiling. THANK YOU
Nice set up great job.
I love the simplicity in this, wayyyy cheaper than any actuator setup.
I agree I looked into the actuators and they are a lot of money. Adding some cabinets so I working on a improved bed lift which I’ll be posting in the coming months! Thanks for watching!
The beauty of this design is that in the up position, there are basically no lines, guides, tracks on the side to get in the way of the living area below.
This was so helpful I love it thank you for sharing this, I'm using this idea in my bedroom the only thing is I'll be pulling it up and letting it down by hand so it is quieter. So much more affordable than all the other ideas I've seen. Again thank you
THANK YOU. This is exactly what I need. I'm trying to make a drop-down paint booth for my shop and I couldn't figure out how to raise and lower it from the ceiling. This will work perfectly.
Never thought of this but I guess this would work perfectly for that! If you have any questions let me know.
This gives me inspiration for a bed lift using cables. I want to set it up so that I press a button and it magically moves up, but I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to do that in an elegant yet cheap solution. I need a lot of height to move, so those hydraulic lift ideas weren't a good choice... I imagine routing all of the cables to the left or right side and hiding them in the ceiling would be perfect
This video is great! Exactly what I’ve been hoping to see someone do on youtube for months. Idk why I couldn’t find this video earlier
if I get to do a van conversion I want a elevator bed to have more room duringthe day. you made it look easy.
Thank you! They aren’t too bad to make once you have a plan!
Could you give a parts list? This is a VERY COOL idea!
I'm using a worm drive winch. Great job Bud!
sorry to hear you couldn't get it up all the way
Haha good one! ;P
lol
😂😂
Awesome job! Thanks for the video
I was looking for linear actuators, they were all very expensive ($1K+)after all the electronics. This is so much easier (and cheaper). Thanks, great video, keep it up. John S.
Yes I looked at doing the same! If you want to do a bed with a little more cost make sure you check out my other bed lift video!!
I was thinking the same thing, all these expensive options to lift a bed that can be easily hand cranked and would be faster to deploy and put away with a drill. Good job!
Check out my other bed lift video I did turned out much easier and to be honest although a drill would be fast and easy for the couple of turns of a crank I prefer it over the drill.
Awesome and clever! Well done.
Nice diy job. Would be good if your winch was permanently attached to the cross member. Maybe an upgrade would be to be able to turn it 180 degrees, so it’s facing down when a seat, and up when you need to raise/lower the bed.
Good job - thanks for sharing!
Quick, fast and easy! love it! will probably do something similar but you should round the bottom tip of those 2x4 so when you lower it they will self alight better and they wont get caught on edge of E-track bracket and maybe you wont even have to get at the back to re align it.
Good call you are right trying to align it can be a hassle sometimes. I am currently working on some cabinets which is going to hinder my bed lift system however I’ve got something even better in the works hopefully have the video up in the next couple of months!
You can install 2x4 at the bottom and just lower the bed, no need to change bracket for the bottom!
Nice set up! Cleverly designed.
I’m planning to do something very similar but have the ropes go over a pulley on the roof and attach yo a monkey bar so I can just use my body weight to raise and lower the bed, just gotta come up with an automatic latching mechanism now
I really like it. Thanks for posting.👍
Make sure you check out my other bed lift video! It worked out even better!!
Love this guy! I liked and subscribed :) Exactly what I was looking for.
Best explanation yet, thank you. Any idea how I could use a similar set up but more hidden and permanent for nightly deployment? Again thanks subbed in appreciation
I think if you had more head space it would help hide the bed. I made a second bed lift video with a better system which is also posted on my channel. I recently purchased a new trailer and will be doing a bed that folds against the wall.
Thank you for subscribing!
@@BCBackwaters thanks so much I will check it out! 🇨🇦
This is very helpful! I want a lift but I don’t want it to depend on solar power and don’t mind doing it manually thanks for the help new sub!
Thanks for following I am working on a new manual lift bed to improve this design hopefully have the video up before the end of summer!
This is super smart! I probably gonna adapt this idea great job!
Make sure you check out my other bed lift video! Worked out even better!
Thank you what a great idea thank you for sharing.
I like the way you're thinking.
Gonna use this idea for my cargo van for expediting
Awesome love hearing this! Make sure you check out my other bed lift video it’s a bit more of a compact design!
Let me know if you have any questions!
Hi bud, could flush fit hoists work, being proper close to the roof? Also may I suggest guiding wheels on all four corners in both axis and another couple hoists atop the winch so you don't need to connect/disconnect? :) It might also be worth stripping a cheap mains drill, hardwiring and fixing it to the van/hoist with a replaced trigger for an up/down button :)
Currently working on a new design that is located underneath the bed so it’s all built into one but a manual system. Guiding wheel would definitely help however I am trying to keep the build as cheap as possible. Sounds like you could engineer a pretty nice system!
I'm making something similar but heavy duty for my studio apartment. The rachet is a great lightweight idea (I'll be using counterweights and a pulley system)
Check out my other bed lift video. If it’s not being installed high the other mechanism is even easier to use.
Nice job! may give this a shot on mine.
Thanks! Probably work better on a higher roof but hey it does the trick!
See we have geniuses here in Canada EH! Fregin hilarious, haha
Great design
Very nice job!
If that winch is necessary to lift it then the wall mounts are not strong enough (they will break due to fatigue at some point, even if it worked so far). Need beefier metal there. But thumbs on all the other thoughts.
Very nicely done, lad.
Thank you! Check out my recent bed lift video it was a huge improvement and much easier to operate!
Do you travel with your bed in the upright position? I’m using the same type of system and was concerned that the wall studs were able to support the weight. My studs are 16” on center.
good solution with a great price.
Great design, does the job 👍
I have no idea why the manufactured happy Jack system is so expensive I mean you literally have to build most of it yourself you're basically getting the rails in a motor anybody can buy that
Good project. The commercially sold set-ups seem to me to be outrageously overpriced. So very cool.
A tip. Anything you see a commercially sold bed winch system doing- you can also do. So long as your pulleys aren't at some odd angle, the rope will smoothly glide, the bed will go up evenly. Many commercially made set-ups are insanely overbuilt for absolutely no good reason. (Too often RV and trailer things are grossly and stupidly overbuilt.)
What I'd want to do is
1. Do double pulleys so you have to pull the lines twice as far but they require half the effort to do it.
2. I'd run the lines on one side under the bed so your winch/crank is on the wall on the other side where it'd be out of the way. and
3. I'd make it so a hand crank could lift it. With this system you'd have a single line run from the crank to all four corners (probably tied to the front right side of the bed and then the rope would come off the front left side to the crank. ) Also because you have the brackets to hold the bed, any slight unevenness would just require you to loosen up the rope a little once the bed is lined up in the brackets.
The single line pulley arrangement is a bit of a puzzle, but not at all difficult to figure out. While it seems complex, it really isn't. (Two pulleys on the front right, then 3 pulleys on each of the other corners. So 11 pulleys total. )
(If your bed raises 3.5 feet: with double lines on 4 corners- that would be 3.5' x 4 sides x 2 times = 28 feet to roll up. Sounds like a lot but the effort would be minimal (each turn on a 4" diameter drum, could wind up a foot, so 28 cranks. If the bed weighed 40lbs, you'd be lifting 20 pounds at the drum . Your effort depends on how long the crank handle is. Maybe 8" - (16" diameter), so 4:1 advantage. 5 lbs at the handle- Easy.) Dyneema line would be smaller in diameter, very strong, slides easily and is less likely to chafe. I wouldn't go smaller than 3/16" because your biggest problem will be the line skipping out of the pulley sheaves. (btw I haven't made a van bed, but I've done all this before.)
I can see someone spending $100,000 on a 4x4 Sprinter van conversion, but then DIYing the lifting bed because it would be so much better. (Also the ply forr the bed? I made a bunk for the back of my car out of 1/2" luan from HomeD - very light weight. To make it rigid I glued (and screwed then removed the screws) two 1" strips about 4" in from the sides (24" wide) - too lightweight for your larger bed, but the concept is simple. Looks like your bed is pretty lightweight. I always keep in mind 2x8 joists 16" OC and 3/4 ply (standard house construction) can hold 2000 pound/square foot. (You can park a car in your living room.) You used 2x4s but your bed is still much stronger than it needs to be. Your blocking is very smart; clearly you know what you're doing. I'm a big fan of spruce 2x3s (look for the spruce ones - very pale yellow - kiln dried, they also come Douglas Fir - much heavier - but still good. Spruce is just amazing wood - when I build stuff out of it I always remember it's what the Wright Brothers built the first airplane with and the second, and everybody else through the 1930s) Also drill some holes in the plywood. If you get any moisture between the bed and the ply and it can't vent and dry, you'll get mold growing. Sorry to be such a busy body.
Hey, please build for demonstration purposes
KISS! Keep It Simple Stupid. Great job and exactly the idea I was looking around for. I have researched murphy beds and bed lift systems relentlessly for awhile and this is the ticket! Thank You!! I already have the E Track etc; and wanted to still use the cargo trailer for other things also.
Make sure you check out my other bed lift video! Worked even better then this one!
@BCBackwaters which other one?
That was a good demo on why we have to purchase impact rated sockets.
Good job brother
Could you tell me where to find/ what the name is of the brackets? Those look perfect for what I want to do, but I’m having a hard time finding them when I search.
D ring tiedowns
Wondering what the name of the long black bracket is that is the support of the bed
If you are talking about the track on the wall this is call “E-Track Rail” hope this helps!
great job man!!
Thank you!
excellant job for us low budget people
Thank you make sure you check out my other bed lift video it cost a little more but overall function was a lot nicer! Thanks for watching!
Cool set up. I’m the guy who saw you at McDonald’s this AM.
Thanks for following and stopping! Made my day!!!
Well done.
god that's a lil ghetto but it's honestly fucking GENIUS; it really highlights how affordable something can be made with the right ingenuity and skill. THANK you for uploading, this has been a tremendous inspiration for the bed design I wanna build.
haha Yes Ghetto!!! However you are right cant beat the price and it works for one person thats all that matters to me! Happy I could provide some inspiration!!!! :)
You can buy it tarp motor and you wouldn't have to use that drill
Very nice
Good idea!
Advice ; stared your videos off with a preview of the finish production then show the steps on how you did it ... This will make video look more youtubish
Brilliant dude
Thank you!
Pulley position at mattress bottom , frame top. Bed to top.😊😊🎉🎉
Check out my newest video of an upgraded bed lift using no pulleys! Thanks for watching!
Wonderfull..man
i love you, youre a genius
Must of baught the socket from NAPA. Something happened to me.
I'm mounting an electric winch in the front of mine.
@@bigdaddysshop8180 Good call that would make it much easier.
Hey! Where did u get the rails and the 90 degree bed frame clips? (Not sure what they’re called to search for them).
E track rails...... harbor freight or ebay
I'm think yer pulleys are 1 1/2 Dia.??
Yes I believe they are. I could have gone bigger it may have helped with raising the bed. Make sure to check out my other bed lift video!
Quality ❤
Is that angle iron on your bed frame?
No just 2x4 frame with a thin sheet of plywood. I probably could of gotten away with 2x3’s and thinner plywood.
As long as you don’t mind replacing that rope every 4-6 months. My experience, that style rope doesn’t last very long. Fort, it’s not super expensive…
That's awesome 👍
Perfect!
awesome
So you have to use the whole trailer to do a bed lift.
What you're going to do with the extra rope in the way. dry your clothes.
Very dangerous set up when traveling.
The ropes can be removed and once its lifted and brackets are installed you can take the ropes down. I agree its alot of things in the way but I am working on a solution next month to take care of all this. A new bed lift which will all be located below the bed. Make sure you stay tuned for this!
Kool . You can’t more ghetto right than that
Okay now show me the 200$ version
I’ve got a better version coming but should be less then $200. I’ll post it after I build it!
Great 🙏
good idea, but I Feel like it's about to fall apart in like 2 months of use.
take camera off of auto focus... especially when your standing in front of cam..
Ghetto AF but it works I guess. 🤣
You need a stock list/bill of materials!
@@paulsdavis3025 I don't even remember this video or posting this comment a year ago.. 😂