LIVE! Real Lawyer Reacts: Read Trial Day 13: Bangin Cross Examination of Colin Albert
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If I was a juror, the amount of "I don't remembers" will make me think you are hiding something.
"can you rephrase that"
It seems their recollection of events is razor sharp on direct, but as soon as the defense starts their cross, they suddenly all seem to suffer from acute amnesia.
At this point- Lally’s objections also are very telling.
After watching many trials and seeing how lawyers can twist things, if I wasn't 100% sure of something I might go with 'I don't remember'.
@@POVwithRC 🤣🤣😂😂
The victim deserved a thorough investigation and proper evidence handling. How this is being handled is an insult to him.
Americans deserve to have a justice system that doesn't prosecute people just because.
It's hard to do so now
And he was a police officer.
Totally agree, even if she’s guilty the investigators didn’t do officer O’Keefe justice with the investigation. It’s their fault he might not get justice. I feel horrible for his family. The investigators are at fault for all the harassment on both sides.
This entire Trial has been a DISGRACE RIGHT DOWN TO THE JUDGE!
The judge is the best lawyer on the prosecutors team
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Ironically she was a public defender before this.
Nope...this family remembers certain things about that night but when crossed examined about specifics...NONE of them remember what the fuck!!!
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She was a Traffic Court Judge until they gave her this Case,,, 😳🤔🤔🤔
Lally says “there’s no evidence of anything” he’s correct about that
😂😂 he's getting frustrated
@@mariee.5912 good because he’s frustrating me with “what kind of beer we’re you drinking?”
Lally is the worst! And I’m glad!
Lally is a horrible Attorney. He doesn't project his voice . He's boring to watch.
You mean the same Lally that took like a year to get two swabs to a lab for DNA testing?
Nobody seemed to be worried about being caught drinking and driving, almost like they knew they wouldn’t get in any trouble…..wow!
Sorry to say that it's well known if as a bartender, the hardest people to slow down or shut off are L.E.
Who would "catch them" when the law enforcement are condoning the behavior AND joining in!
The drinking age in Massachusetts is 21. This guy was 17 in January 2022 & he is just 20 years old today. He sure spends a lot of time around drinking & in bars for his young age
Even the bar that over-served them. In MA they should have had their liquor lic revoked immed. That's the law when a death results from a drunk driving incident after leaving a place that let you do that.
@@evilqueenyiayiaFirefighters too. They all party like animals. I don't get all nuts about them being like that. I get it.
I’ll tell you this much. The knuckles story is absolutely, 100% impossible. Not implausible, but absolutely impossible. That would do much more damage to your arm. You’d have potentially broken wrist, torn ligaments, extensive bruising. There is no way anyone could possibly fall and catch their entire body weight with their fist/knuckles and have zero injuries other than scapes on four knuckles. You would almost certainly break your wrist from a fall like that, but you would not fall like that. It makes no sense that a person would fall and not try to catch themselves with an open palm.
I slip and fell and tried to catch myself with my palm (like a normal human being) and had multiple grade 3 tendons, and 1 grade 1 ligament torn. My entire forearm was striped purple and deep red.
That was the most ludicrous statement I have heard yet. He beat out the amorous butt dial for the most ridiculous lie in this trial so far.
@laurac2424 Well said! (sorry to hear about your injury! Sounds very painful :( )
That story was such a lie.
Instinctively we don't catch our falls like that. If it's even possible. There's no time to turn your hand to land on the knuckles. If you did manage that you're going to have more injury than that.
Psychopath. He's such a puck.
I fell off my horse.
Landed on a ground pole on my elbow.
I literally felt the tendons rupture & snap.
I heard the bones fracture.
We were just cantering in the indoor with soft footing.
I saw my cousin catch her fall when slipped on snow/ice. She fell back tho. Her arms reflexively tried to break the fall. She ended up dislocating her wrist.
He's so full of crap.
Are we surprised he says he had a "beverage" in the other hand?
Yeah the last time I fell like that and only caught myself on ”one hand” it was open palm and I fractured both forearm bones with the force of it all, needed a plaster cast for like 2 months. I was also scraped up on my left side because I couldn’t catch my other side and it got scraped up in the process. Falling even on ice wouldn’t only screw up the tops of the knuckles on the one hand like he stumbled and fell on ice and did a superhero landing.
Yes, that was ridiculous. They should all be ashamed of themselves for such blatent lies.
Something tells me Colin will get himself in more trouble in the future.
All these witnesses have a decent memory when being asked by the government...but go absolutely brain dead when getting confronted by the defense
😎" I don't recall, I don't recall" " I don't remember, I don't remember ".
Probably because the defense is busy, trying to twist their words and make them look like liars and instead of just trying to get to the truth half the time he’s testifying instead of asking questions
Unbelievable that Colin said he never discussed the case with his father or mother or anybody else in his family but then he told Yuri butenec to get the screenshot from his father. How did his father get it if he never discussed the case with him ever?
I think him saying that to Yuri was an implied threat. Like I’m not helping you but feel free to try my dad.
Bingo
@@elise2096 no, listen to what he said
@ashlaunicaalpari4584 no, you didn't listen to what he admitted about sending it
Look people I got my leaf blower and solo cup I’m ready to solve this thing 😂 😂 😂
Bit tasteless in the circumstances
@@oiooi6460nah.
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When Lally showed those photos of Colin with his family, he asked him the state of his knuckles and whether or not there were any injuries on his face. HE OPENED THE DOOR!!
Lally has been pushing that door open since he started asking all the family and friend witnesses if they saw Colin with any injuries that night or soon after.
Lally opened the door.
Pay attention.
@@Cherokee51774 Uhhh me pay attention? I do believe I said Lally opened the door, so who pay attention? 😆
Even if the Alberts aren’t connected to Johns actual death… their evasiveness makes them LOOK guilty.
I know. Why did they evade so many questions. It looks like they're hiding something.
Agreed
Additionally, my ex had a cousin with the PA State Police. His cop buddies harassed me & even had me arrested for a DUI After I’d been home for 35 minutes! I’m a RN & Don’t drink & drive. I came home after a 65 hour week & had a strong drink as I was preparing dinner! I refused to plea, insisted on a jury trial & was acquitted. The Judge, the prosecutor & even my own lawyer were Not happy that I chose to go to trial😡
The justice system is a joke.
Wow. Why would you plea if you didn’t do anything wrong? Good for you!!!
I have been set up by two attorneys in civil court. Sad situation is this “justice “ system
Almost the exact same thing happened to my cousin. He ex was LE for a small PD. He set her up with a buddy State trooper to pull her over for DUI. The same Tropper they knew was SA'ing women he pulled over and was later convicted of doing so. The idea that her ex set her up is abhorrent, but to throw her to a wolf, knowing she was likely to be assaulted(and was), is next-level evil. The State settled with all the victims and tried to sweep it under the rug. I know there are good cops, but I've had far more bad interactions than good.
I am glad you didn't plead.
Peter- I am the daughter of a state trooper, 42, who was hit by a drunk lieutenant of the Portland Maine police dept when i was 22. I can tell you EXACTLY what happened here. I have seen my whole life how cops cover one another. Yes, the drunk cop got a paid suspension. And I sued the city. But they made my life so terrible I couldn't find health care, was being harassed, watched, you name it. I ended up moving back to my hometown because of PRECISELY what is going ON here!! Read is being set up. Guaranteed.
I'm sorry you went through that. That 100% sounds like portland police behaviour too. You are probably far better off away from there.
Do we assume that your father passed away as a result? This is all so traumatic. I am so very sorry!!
What I've read and heard, "Chris Albert, Colin's father, killed a man in 1994 (drunk driving) when he was 22 years old, and served 6 months in jail for it. Albert led State Police on a 30 hour manhunt after rear ending a car on I-95 in Attleboro, MA killing the driver Peter Berger at 3 AM before fleeing the scene." He was represented by Judge Beverly Cannone's brother. Why isn't this a "conflict of interest?" Should she have recused herself?
All true.
That's just the tip of the conflict of interest iceberg.
Bev is Cape Cod neighbors with an Albert. They share a beach.
There's loads of other family connections personal and legally.
She refused to recuse.
@@Cherokee51774cape Cod neighbour is a McCabe.
He hit and run and it was a dui AND he killed someone??? How was it only 6 months in jail?!
@@Tazazak What I was thinking.
To small of a community.
He should have just said I punched a wall! That knuckle story was painful to hear 😂
I would love to know how many holes had to be repaired before selling the house.
There's at least 2 males who have short fuses and seem angry more often than not.
Wonder what the other 2 boys are like. Surely one has to be the black sheep and is good.
After seeing Colin on the stand, I just said to myself does anyone care about the victim here?!!
I think the defense attorney is really enjoying nailing this kid with his own words.
Canton is the home of I don't remember and a ton of drinking. Good grief.
John O'Keefe deserves the best of the best investigation for his death. He was a police officer, an Uncle(dad) to his niece and nephew and from all the testimonies, he was loved and also well liked. It's heartbreaking for his family and also Karen's family.
So far, after 13 days and over 30+ witnesses, there is NOTHING to prove or show how John passed. IMOO, The LE, the judge and the prosecution seem to care more about proving the Alberts non-involvement than to show Karen responsible. No one can convince me that the judge is not blatantly biased. It's despicable and disgusting to see how none of the LE, judge and prosecution show any remorse, regret, empathy, sympathy or just plain respect for John O'Keefe. It's also sad that the O'Keefe family are depending and hoping that the LE, judge and prosecution to find out what happened to John. It seems only the defense is trying their best to show that from the injuries John had, it was more than a vehicle accident.
Hopefully no more "RE-HOMING" of any evidence.
Has anyone thought that maybe Officer O'Keeffe was going to turn in evidence or information on the Alberts regarding wrong doing on their part from something in the past? That would be the motive they had to "take him out." Otherwise, I don't see what would be their motive to beat him up and leave him on the lawn. Not saying Karen Read did this, just trying to see what the Alberts motive would be.
Excellent breakdown 😊😊😊😊
@@goll58 IMOO, I think when KR dropped off John, Colin was leaving at the same time. I think that the 2 of them had disagreements because of Colin littering his lawn, AND also Colin hitting on his niece. A scuffle started. The dog that Brian just let out, came out the backyard and jumped John, who fell and hit his head on the fire hydrant. BA and BH heard the commotion and came out(that's when according to Nicole, they were missing for a few mins), saw the bleeding and took John in the basement from the outer door. They couldn't take him to the hospital or call 911, so they were figuring out what to do. At this point, I don't think they planned on framing Karen. After they realised that he was bleeding out, they decided to take him back and put him by the fire hydrant, the excuse would be, he was drunk and fell and hit his head. They covered him with a puffy jacket to keep him warm. They thought the plow guy would find him and call 911. What they didn't expect is Karen to wake up to look for him. I also think Jen stopped the car where John was. Jen and Kerry were the only ones at that time who knew about the cracked tail light. Lots of unanswered calls or communications we don't know about yet, is what caused them to frame Karen. I think they threatened Karen with their power and told her to take the fall for a minimum sentence and that would close the case. But Karen knew that even if she did hit John, the injuries just didn't match up, so she decided to fight back. Then they decided to up the charges and here we are, watching this fiasco/convoluted investigation with cups/leaf blower/shopping bag/re-homed dog/re-homed house/re-homed phones etc etc.
@@goll58yes I have wondered. Or even if he just knew some uncomfortable truths. I think it was revealed that he worked in the sexual offender department.
If the judge was so evil and biased she wouldn't have let the videos in. Judges always feel a bit biased towards prosecution. Judge Newman obviously hated Murdaugh. But most cases the public is in the same side,so we don't mind
Craziest part that is overshadowed by those videos is that he turned up to testify at a federal grand jury with busted knuckles. Like wtf
And got away with it
So?
So? Sooo many coincidences it becomes laughable.
AJ is wack. Did you box…. No.. been in a fight… no.. AJ seems to think every guy fight. This kid didn’t do anything. Bullying this kid is kinda dumb.
That's how confident, sure and used they're about getting away with corruption.
….tripped over the curb the other day walking my two 90 lbs Labs, a leash in each hand. I instantly spread my hands to break my fall. Scraped up the palms but definitely no cuts to my “knuckles”🤦♀️🤦♀️ Terrible lie.
He didn’t want to drop his can of beer. Knuckle up!! 😊 joking of coarse!
@@billyb5847 🤣👍
You are correct, no one,and I mean no one would ever break their fall with their knuckles, you always land on your palms!!
There’s a name for it , it’s called a FOOSH “ injury “ falling on out stretched hands “ it has a name because it’s so common
I think he did brace the “fall with his knuckles.” He’s a knucklehead
I think a lot of people in the lives and these comments need to remember that the defense hasn't begun to present their case. The prosecution hasn't rested their case yet. So the defense trying to prove that Colin is not this innocent kid doesn't mean that they believe he beat JO to death. Just catching him as a liar is enough to help their case. Plus, if they can prove that he's aggressive, and the fact that JO looked like he was beat to death, plus the fact that the family tried to hide his presence in the house that night. That's big.
Yeah. All they need to do is provide doubt in the prosecution’s case, or that the investigation wasn’t properly done and not all avenues were exhausted before charging someone with murder. To prove this case to reasonable doubt or moral certainty, I don’t think that’s possible at the moment without strong evidence to the contrary (which I am not sure exists). We’re past Day 12 and we know what everyone was drinking that night except the only person charged with a DUI. We haven’t even gotten to O’Keefe being dead as far as court evidence yet.
I've watched trial like this. The prosecution's evidence is flimsy at best. So they fill their case with minutia. No substance.
Lally is the worst.
@@ESPHMacD who got a DUI?
I think Collin was being a drunk, cocky kid and started a fight with John. John was holding his own and Brian got involved. Then the dog got involved to "protect" Brian. Brian and Colin took it too far, and next thing you know, John's on the floor vomiting and convulsing, and they panicked. I don't think they meant to kill him. They were drunk and ganged up, and it went too far. Hence why the floor was tore up in the basement, there is missing blood, dogs "rehomed", and the house was sold. Also makes sense given John's injuries! Way too many coincidences here!
This is how I feel exactly. I think the basement is in question because they believe John fell in the fight and hit the back of his head on a weight rack.
It was a house of a police officer, with strong family/ friends also police, with a drunk teenager.
Not everyone has to be "in on the coverup" and know exactly what happened. They just went with the story they were told. Because no one really knew Karen. And they trusted their family.
I wonder if they consider rehomen Colin like they did with Chloe the phones etc😂
Agreed
so messed up that Colin wasn't even questioned by investigators/detectives for 18 months. His family downplayed his presence at the property as well. There's so much evidence of a cover up here.
NONE of the McAlberts can seem to remember anything, and NONE of the McAlberts can keep their stories straight…EXCEPT the approximate time (11:30-11:45) they ALL claim Colin left 34 Fairview on the evening of 1/28/22. There’s a reason they don’t want Colin at the crime scene…and it’s pretty easy to figure out why.
But he was questioned and has testified several times and each time without a lawyer present. This tells me he's innocent.
Here's what people don't know. After the feds started investigating and handing out subpoenas. The detectives ran around questioning everyone they never questioned before. 😂
They were afraid of what people said to the federal grand jury. Afraid people might have turned. For good reason. Some have...
Agree
But he left at 12:10am! (Sarcasm)
No evidence of anything in this case. Finally something I agree with the prosecution.
I think it's important for people to realize that when someone disagrees with you, it's not a personal attack. We can have different opinions and it's okay.
Adults, please remember to take a minute to use your logic and critical thinking skills before you accuse someone of feeling a certain way.
100%👍
Word of advice. Stop lecturing to others.
Its difficult to prove your case when the witness are LIEING ABOUT EVERYTHING 🎉
If they aren’t guilty of anything why make themselves look so sketchy and guilty of something !!
It really does feel like the Commonwealth is more concerned with proving the defense wrong than proving their own case. I feel like a lot of these witnesses should have been called by defense or during rebuttal, or at least after we get the Commonwealth's theory. At this rate, we're going to end week 3 without hearing how John died.
The Commonwealth seems to have forgotten they are here to get justice for John, not here to price the Alberts are innocent. If I was on the jury, I'd be questioning why I'm here as we've heard very little about Karen or John.
So agree
Personally, I find it insulting when someone blatantly lies to my face as if I'm too stupid to know the difference.
I just have to say that if Colin acted like this as a neighbor to John, I can totally see John not appreciating his attitude.
I don't think most people think Colin killed JO. They think he started it by mouthing off and potentially throwing a punch and Brian, his Uncle (cop, marine, boxer) got involved and fought John which triggered the dog to attack.
A fight also makes the most sense to me. I think maybe after that John staggered out of the house and collapsed on the lawn. Maybe they didn’t see him and just assumed he left. That’s why his body was still there the next morning. This would explain the cover up, too. And the ridiculous amount of lies being told on the stand. 💯
I’m under the impression that Albert family and friends have enjoyed impunity for years due to their power and connections within the community.
Lots of power for a bunch of drunks- I’ll never even visit canton knowing this about the town… nasty
No one has ever injured just their knuckles in a slip and fall like he described
Well, that is just like the butt dial. I never heard that before either.
These videos illustrate exactly the person Colin is.
I thought they were being over dramatic on him until the picture, court excerpt, and videos.
Sad thing is, we will never know 100% and without doubt what happened to JO. At best we know the family is covering for something Collin did.
The video from the bar shows the Alberts and McCabes there at 12:10, so it is impossible that the text exchange with Allie took place at that same exact time (from the screenshots) and the Alberts saw him coming out like they say.
@@Kaykay-nn8ydI’m curious of what she said to JO?
@@Kaykay-nn8ydwhere can we find this?
@@harley6222she was pissed at first he never showed up home and said some things like “I fucking hate you you pervert” and some other things. Doesn’t make her a killer, it makes her a woman who he previously cheated on the last time he disappeared during a night of drinking.
I’m grown adult and if my parents watched videos of me talking like that I know 100% I would never hear the end of it. I’m cringing for this kid!
Me too.
There's less grace given the older you get. Just act right. At least like a civilized human.
I would have lost my phone and been grounded for 6 months. My granny would have made me pick my own switch.
Defense did a good job not taking the bait of the harassment claim made by Colin.
Defense is a serious winner so far
The cross examination of Colin is the best part of the trial so far. I think there's a lot of people including myself that do believe Colin had something to do with John's death
So many liars on the stand. You can't believe anyone.
First, I love your commentary. Second, there is definitely a major cover-up. Those ppl think that just because they’re COPS, can get away with anything! Poor Ms. Read has not only lost the love of her life, she’s been set up to look like she did it!
💯 and she also lost the children she cared for a lot
The judge’s statement at the beginning of the day shocked me. “I disagree with you in the strongest way possible”!?? Really woman (no I’m not going to call her Your Honor at this point), the defense absolutely didn’t open the door, I think it’s definitely running the risk of reversible error in my opinion. I was flabbergasted by her response. I’m left to believe the prosecution and judge are absolutely incompetent, because I don’t have evidence to allege they are corrupt, so I’m going with absolute incompetence.
I do agree that they didn't open the door but incompetence is a strong word ! Emily agreed with the judge at the time so I guess there's room for lawyers and judge to see it that way but .... yeah I absolutly don't and I do agree that it is absolutely grounds for an Appeal if they lose !
I think I can see a place in her testimony with them where they MAY have opened the door (or a window more likely), but I thought her commentary was completely unnecessary and slightly unbecoming in a trial where even she has been accused of bias towards the Albert family (especially when she was asked to recuse for that reason and she refused). I think she only said that because Yannetti went with the ”Lally was just waiting for a witness to get up there and cry” like he was attacking AM for being an ’emotional woman’ or something. It wasn’t, and she should do better at not showing her own personal bias from the bench. She has moments when she is decently balanced, and then she’ll do something where it’s kinda obvious which side she has chosen.
I just think they aren’t very smart.
Now we know why the family was protecting him with all those lies! Wow!! 😮
No matter who is guilty Peter always keeps an open mind.
He most certainly does!
Way more fair than Bev.
I definitely appreciate his integrity.
None of the witnesses who were present at the house at the time of a man taking his last breath, have shown any real shock or emotion. It would be horrific for me, and especially when recounting the experience in court. These people are very concerned about social media backlash (hard questions) though.
Social media backlash. How about a few hundred people turning up outside your house claiming you're a murderer. You know a rolling rally was arranged on social media, a group of a few hundred people drove to each of the witnesses homes, with a bullhorn claiming they were killers etc. So yes harassment.
@@kerrygold6494 I’ve seen the harassment of someone falsely accused of murder.
@@Aunt_Betty exactly, the 11 witnesses that never saw John walk into the house have been falsely accused of murder and harassed, the harassment was live streamed so well documented.
Not just accused but framed as well. So, yeah, let’s all shed a tear for the McAlberts…who all seem to have mastered the art of narcissism (their kids included).
#FreeKarenRead
@@RoscoeBear34 Strange, because a few days after John was found and Read was arrested, she claimed via her lawyer Yanetti that it was a terrible accident, she didn't mean to kill her boyfriend it was unintentional. Then months later when the grand jury upped the charge to murder, Karen no longer claimed she did it, but it was a cover up. I wonder how things would stand today if Karen Read hadn't claimed guilt in court February 2022, days after it happened.
Collin “Bang Bang” Albert’s testifies he changes his shirt often most days, while wearing the same shirt he wore yesterday to court! 😳👌🏽
The BANG BANG is soooo cringe and embarrassing
It is the only dress shirt he has as he doesn’t often dress this way
I honestly could not believe Colin Albert's testimony he did not seem like the sharpest tool in the shed let's put it that way
I agree! That kid is dumb as a box of rocks.
Dimmest bulb in the pack, one pickle short of a hamburger, not the sharpest crayon in the box, dumb as a doorknob, smart as a box of rocks…
My 4 yo granddaughter is smarter.
@@dareneq1 😆 I get it... my 3 month old grandson knows how to take social cues better and my 3 yo grandson would blow him away in am iq test. 😜
Still cannot get over the comment, "Colin wasn't there when John was."
Saying he's going to take on a team of hockey players made me LOL Oh, Colin, Colin, do you not know hockey players would kick your ass? 🤣🐧🏒
And he claims he didn’t even know them! Obviously you knew enough about them, dear Colin…
You can talk like that when you're in the safety of your Daddy's (the policeman) house.
@@dareneq1 his dad is the sub and pizza guy
Alan enjoyed being able to curse in court a little too much. 😂
He was SO excited 🤣🤣🤣 I'm not even mad at it
Oh he deserved to let it out, after listening to these liars for two weeks…🎉🤣
Hello? Enjoyed....no he was exposing this little messed up punk to the jury for the true personality that he is.
He's got weeks of aggravation built up. Who can blame him? That little punk loves to push buttons.
It may have jostled Colin a little to have his own words said back to him and there's nothing he can do. 😂
@@Shannon-tv2vcI'm excited for him. We get to say these things at these people all day. Team Karen has to be polite. Even though Bev is a total bitch to them.
I live on the other side of the world 🇦🇺, had never heard of any of these people prior to the start of this trial, and didn’t even know a place called Canton existed, so came in very much as a juror. I have avoided doing any online research. From where I’m sitting, I have absolutely no idea what happened to John. I absolutely couldn’t convict Karen of anything at this point, and absolutely couldn’t indict any of the witnesses for anything. Might suggest a few of them book in to see a neurologist about their memory issues, and get them to do some drink driving education, but beyond that I’ve seen nothing so far that makes me think anyone is guilty of a crime.
The thing that I have the biggest problem about is the fact that there is no concern or sadness about the loss of life and the father figure for those two children
Seems like Defense should be able to enter txt messages from McCabe referring to judge as Auntie Bev
I’ve been trying so hard to stick with what the jury knows only but I accidentally just read this and got so much more angry than I already am at her biased
She’s related to them?? Omg this is insane!
not related by blood that's a nickname apparently
@@Kaykay-nn8yd right? McAlberts aren’t the brightest bulbs in the box.
@@blakebamfit’s soooo much deeper than what’s been allowed in court. The witnesses are lucky they have so much law enforcement and justice system on their side.
The first thing to go with alcohol is judgement😊
You are right the last time I’ve witnessed so many people picking sides without watching any of the trial was the Rittenhouse trial.
I’ve only watched the live court proceedings and if I was a juror I would have doubts on doubts on doubts, all reasonable.
Maybe I'm crazy, but I haven't seen anyone who thinks Karen Read is guilty besides like 2 angry commenters who seemed to just be looking to rile up others. Granted, I'm not on social media.
I disagree. That's what we do here on our keyboards. There is no problem with that because we are not the jury. Freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and freedom of common sense.
@aliceiscalling just because the "not guilty" people are louder doesn't mean the "guilty" people don't exist
The idea that the harassment was caused because of defense is faulty imo - if LE had done a proper investigation defense would not have had opportunity to point to others that had not been interviewed for year - family blaming defense for doing job that LE didn’t do is unfair - if they had done reports / interviewed appropriately then we wouldn’t have so many conflicting statements - perhaps they would have clear cut case against Karen- definite appellate issue because now jury can say oh it’s ok these 20 people not interviewed for a year because they only did because defense started pointing finger -
Precisely!
I’m so tired of Colin not remembering anything! This family is covering for him. John deserves justice for his death.
Defense did a good job of bringing attention to that prospect.
I've heard the expression "you can get a ham sandwich indicted." Now I believe it. Proctor what have you done?
A drunken Collin probably got in a fight with John (who he'd butted heads with when they lived on the same street) and his drunken family tossed john out like trash. One of the women had pangs of guilt which is why she Googled "how long to die in the cold" or whatever she Googled. When they realized that he might have died they tried setting it up as if the snowplow had hit him.... but that didn't pan out and Karen was made a scapegoat because she's an outsider
Oh but to be fair, he did remember *one* detail... the time frame of when he left the house, which was identical down to the minute of the answer his parents gave. Oh, and that he slipped and hurt only his knuckles. He remembers those two very important and convenient details 😐
I hear FBi knows it was Colin and Brain U have to wait for them to
Peter you have one of the best studio mics in the business so you will almost never have to worry about noise outside. It's designed to capture a voice in close promixity and not much else - great show!
Officer O’Keefe’s family deserves to know what happened! The commonwealth has yet to establish (their version) of how he died and we’re how far into the trial?
Agreed! I don’t know how they sit there listening everyday! I def would be so frustrated
The O'Keefe family knows that Karen hit him
The CW and the defense agreed pre trial, that the harassment wouldn’t come in . The judge overruled their agreement!
Well I don't know who's guilty or who's not guilty but the defense is sure giving me lots of reasonable doubt which I didn't have in the beginning.
They certainly are. I feel for the family watching this. The investigation is incompetence at best.
The Judge is biased !!!!!
VERY !
"I've got my evidence cup and leaf blower I'm ready to solve this" the way I snorted coffee out of my nose when you said this... 10/10
If he really does get into fights, it would be a nice surprise to dredge up one of his opponents to testify in front of the jury.
I really hope the internet is ‘interneting’ today! Maybe his lies under oath will get someone to talk…
Peter, thank you for taking the time, energy, and effort to keep us updated on this trial on a daily basis! 💗 I hope that your daughter has a Happy Birthday and that you are able to enjoy spending the rest of the day with your incredible family. 💞
Don’t be sorry Peter! Your family time is much more important!! Thank you for all your work!
Wow, this kid……
He sealed the deal for me, what a PUNK! Karen- NOT GUILTY
SHADY SHIT going on here!
Peter is a good devil’s advocate😅 it helps me see both sides.
Isn’t it prejudice that the judge follows up with questions?? “Isn’t that true, did you do that” it’s horrible she’s doing that???
Not to mention prompting the prosecution to object. "Are you going to object Mr Lally?" Not your freaking job judge!
Or the judge asking the prosecution if they object...danm railroad job
@@nellyvieira9496 and the defence hardly ever objects...
I've never seen it done in court before but have only watched a few trials. No one can deny her comment today though, after defense pointed out that it was unfair to Miss Read's case that there's witnesses crying about harassment (which had nothing to with Karen or defense council), that the judge allowing the questioning wasn't fair, and Judge Bev said something along of the lines of "I strongly disagree with your argument" - that proves it's personal, and she definitely feels defensive about people calling her rulings biased. If not, she wouldn't have thrown in such a personal unnecessary comment like that during a ruling
@@demi8890 it might be a state thing to not mention a reason for objecting. As a European watching American trials for a few years now it strikes me that these objections here don't need motivations like compound, or facts not in evidence, or whatever. I do know I didn't know anything about this case but I don't believe this Albert family for one bit. They are a bunch of liars.
What I can say is, I have been in 3 car accidents, one a pick up truck, went through the windshield of that one, no injuries in the others other than an old cut reopening on my knee..nothing like this supposedly being hit backing up..
The Medical Examiner later determined that O’Keefe suffered multiple skull fractures, consistent with blunt-force trauma that led to bleeding in the brain. He also had two swollen black eyes, several abrasions on his right arm as well and blood around his nose and mouth. Hypothermia was a contributing factor in his death, the autopsy ruled.
One other thing, its looking like a fight did take place, I highly doubt also one person carried him outside.
I feel really bad for Johns family 😢
Me too. Nobody shows that he cares about his death. Except for the family members that testified.
This whole trial seems so insensitive to John and his family. So cold
John's family knows Karen is guilty
Fell down walking down the streets of New York while at Westminster this weekend. Hurt my palms and my knees. Not my knuckles. Have fallen down many times,have even broken my leg recently when my Doberman knocked me down. Have never hurt my knuckles. Got a boxer’s fracture once when I made a fist in a car accident,hand went through windshield.
My husband recently retired as a police SGT of 25 yrs. This is disgusted how this investigation or lack of went down. I can't be convinced this wasn't a cover up.
As a parent his response to his knuckles being scraped up makes no sense
As a logical human who has probably fallen down a few times in life you know it's probably impossible.
@@Cherokee51774 no way lol he saves the phone or drinks Why will you make up the story even babys when they learning to walk and they fall use their hands
I have never been as fired up during a trial as I was today. Can't even put it into words right now. I need to replay it and not let my emotions in so I can actually listen.
I googled that kid last night so I wasn’t surprised. He’s a punk at the very least and most likely a criminal!
Don’t be angry - what if you found out that Karen hit Johns car on purpose at 5am? I can prove she did. She turned off the PKSB - rear parking safety brake. It stops the car - if you want it off you have to go through a 7 step process after you start the engine - each time. It doesn’t stay turned off like other settings. She went through that 7 step process so she was able to make contact with John’s car.
@@2TurntKaren ok did you see this? Are you saying he was at the Alberts all night long?
@@2TurntKarenyou can’t prove that about HER car.
@@casey5683 it’s not made any different than any of the other millions of 2021 Lexus LX 570s. They all have that - I know I worked for Lexus, sold them, heard the complaints about it not staying off permanently, had a guy return one a day after buying it because it activated due to the incline of his driveway.
He’s right handed. But while walking up a steep hill he carried his phone (or drink) in his left hand. 😝
The Defense doesn't have to prove anything.
They don't because she ran him over.
@@Resmith18SRExplain the injuries then. None of them are consistent with a vehicle.
@@Cherokee51774 You don't know that and you haven't heard expert testimony as of yet.
@Resmith18SR you would think that would have been presented before all this if that was the case.
Colin’s stubbornness is not serving him well.
I think he is just confident in what he is saying.
Yeah, if he's innocent he's not helping himself. You have to keep any stubbornness or annoyance in check.
I absolutely love Jackson and both of Karen’s attorneys!! Never seen lawyering so good! Thanks Peter for covering this!! I look forward to ur daily recaps😊
Judge knew her ruling allowing Caitlyns harassment testimony was shady, so judge tried to make up for it by allowing Colin videos, pictures in. Auntie can't make it too obvious
This is all soooo sad. No one seems to care about a life lost. Shame on them all.
This is a rotten family to the core. What do these people teach their children? Worst still, you have the police amongst them!
Cops drinking with underage teens
The only victim of harassment I see 13 days into trial is Karen Read. The cw charging this is the harassment.
replay crew: Although I did watch the testimony live, I came to LYK for the breakdown/thoughts/Peter's outlook etc-- As a non juror, I am frustrated with the amount of "I don't remember" or "I don't know's".. I can't imagine how the jury actually feels. Also, im currently working on a case in NC with police corruption... can't get into details, but ironically some similarities and we are all watching this case very closely at the firm.
If you are defending a client against a prosecutor, calling them "the government" can help in some cases- like they did a lot in the Adelson trial.
I've called this judge out so much over this trail, but I have to say she surprised me by letting them videos in
Sometimes I think she does things just for the appearance of being fair.
She chastises the defense all the time for things her & Lally are most guilty of doing.
There's no consistently in her rulings.
The sidebars. Don't even get me started. Any gov agent/agency that isn't transparent is super sus.
@@Cherokee51774that's a good point she'll know the feds are looking at this case very closely so she's needs to appear fair while eyes are in her. But with the side bars not even the feds can hear that and is extremely sus, I've said too many times this judge is biased your point makes so much sense
I think their fight led to the dog getting involved, then Drunk Brian getting involved because he couldn’t help himself. The head injury might of been accidental purposeful but still, they covered it up!
Yeah, I see it going the same way. Maybe it was just a drunken fight, the dog jumps in, he falls into a table or something causing the injury on the back of his head.
THE O'KEEF FAMILY WILL NEVER GET JUSTICE FOR JOHN 💔
For real, tell me when , laly has mentioned John or Karen feels like THE CW DEFENDING COLIN
I’m so frustrated. I still feel like I’m confused and going in circles. John deserved a better investigation and I still don’t know what could’ve happened. I’ll stay open minded that KR may be involved, right now im not understanding how.
Open minded and the law is that she is innocent.
There is no staying open minded about pinning guilt on someone. That's the opposite of our system.
@@Cherokee51774I meant that I’m trying to remain neutral because as of now I’m not convinced she’s involved. But the trial isn’t over, so I’m trying to remain neutral instead of leaning one way. She is absolutely innocent right now.
@@psychologynerd0423 I knew what you meant & agree! Some people are just rude when they comment. Take care LYK Fam! 😊
The “kid” has no respect for anyone. Terrible parenting? I don’t know. Not always the parents. He was almost old enough to go to war. 18 right?
Go to war? This kid wouldn’t know how to start a lawn mower 🤦♀️
Depends on which testimony of his you believe.
Prior testimony - he claimed this vids were when he was a senior which is 17/18.
Today's testimony- collin distances it & said he was a sophmore, which could be 15/16.
A spoiled brat just like the rest of Alberts.
@@KKonTH-cam Did you see his drunken, swollen and busted face?! That’s NOT a 15 year old boy! He was almost 18 when John died, there is a reason why his family was hiding him…
He was 17.
He comes from a long line of sociopaths with memory problems. Some of which could be helped if they didn't drink so much.
Let's not forget Colin's dad killed someone driving drunk. Ran from it.
His lack of affect & empathy is disturbing. They raised them a nice little sociopath at the very least. Maybe a psychopath. He doesn't even try to fake emotion. All he knows is aggression. Much like a certain dog we all know...
This is a very unhappy & dysfunctional family trying to come off as wholesome & righteous.
After listening to Colin Albert's testimony... and seeing his knuckles... "Free Karen"! (And I came into this case without an opinion!)
I have never fallen and scraped up my knuckles, palms yes. He punched something/someone
My hubby's best friend is a professional boxer. He's a multi-time American & World Champion. Out of curiosity, I asked him [& my husband] if boxers hit harder with their dominant hand or equally hard with both hands. He said, "You ALWAYS hit harder with your dominant hand." I showed him a picture of Collin Albert's knuckle scrapes. He said it looks like someone hit the heavy bag without wrap or gloves or "bro got in a fight," but then he said he'd expect there to be more bruising.
Here's the thing, that scraping could be easily explained, "I was working out, hitting the heavy bag without wrap/gloves." So why lie? Why be evasive? Why make up this bizarre story about falling knuckles down? which is absolutely ridiculous & no one believes. What's the first thing kids learn when they start crawling - to put their hands out to prevent injury to their head. It's the body’s intense survival instinct. The body’s natural & 1st response to a fall - palms out 🖐 🖐
I just don't understand. Why lie if you have nothing to hide?
In close ups of the actual pictures he’s got bruising all over his elbow and on his finger. If he “fell on his knuckles” that wouldn’t happen, he also said he had no other injuries or bruising, which was a lie. I have the pictures.
Because he is guilty. Now show a Doctor John's pictures hell no way that was a car 🚘 I don't know what happened but somebody killed John. Chloe is missing. The basement floor to many coincidences and lying. Hiding texts deleting ❌ phones video of a library that has Karen SUV missing Allyson in a high school. 3 people see Karen. Other people see a Jeep another person places Karen another person says no this is a mochery the judge is worst she wants publicity she wants to get paid for movies and books. They forgot a mother lost her son. Those kids a father shit enough. Get justice for John Dismiss in this case. FBI shows up stop being so slow 🐌 the look at his parents in court hurts
Nobody is saying he was killed intentionally, rather that a fight went too far
Even if it was an accident, why didnt he or anyone call 911?
It may be an accident or fight that went to far, but if it was an accident why wouldnt he or someone who saw him call police immediately. To wait and not call? Wouldnt that mean a murder. Poor John Okeefe. So sad
I wish someone had called 911 😢
@@annemerritt3722 Exactly. Leaving him the snow, IF that's what happened, equals intent, I would imagine.
@@Gringa_Lreckless disregard, certainly
So the one kid that no one wanted to admit was there had bruised knuckles 3 weeks after the murder? The victim looked like he had been beaten to death. I think the defense knows this kids loves to fight and maybe has an issue but the judge either didn’t let it in or they will try to get it in later. His knuckles look like they’re healing, clearly not fresh bruises. The prosecutors ignoring this is the bigger issue to me. Do they want to put a murderer away or just KR?
The picture of colin and his 2 friends dated feb 26th, 2022 colin has bruised cut knuckles. How come the picture of colin and his aunt nicole dated feb 22, 2022? in that picture colins knuckles are clean? Oh and he happened to fall on his knuckles? Really?
How could the witnesses That Naigel brother n ricky go by seeing karen in car?
I want to know what object caused officers O'Keefes back gash on his lower head. ME would know or find evidence of what he hit his head on.
Also regarding colins knuckles, could someone in his high school notice or remember his condition of knuckles? Colin is a right handed. A teacher or schoolmate might notice his knuckles.
@@annemerritt3722 the question isn’t if they noticed it, the question is will they come forward and will the judge allow testimony from them.
I appreciate you putting your family first. Family should always be first.
Because the judge is not allowing Karen Reid a fair trial. It’s disgusting and very sad for our legal system.
Judges brother represented Colin’s Dad in a death investigator..it’s inane. They asked her to remove herself and she refused.
How is it not a fair trial?
@@Lisa_Uncensored have you watched? There is so much wrong with this investigation this judge and these Alberts.
@@Lisa_Uncensored the lead investigator is a longtime family friend of these “witnesses “he lied about it, and only admitted it when the FBI got involved
On Colin; I can't say whether or not he was involved in John O'keefe's death, but he is certainly lying about something. His body language and his evading answers says he is lying about something.
Thank you for trying to present a fairly neutral view and analysis.
Colin’s discussion of the public saying his family are murderers for over a year should give the jury a huge amount of reasonable doubt
Colin says he doesn’t have social media but then said he communicates with his friends on social media. He’s covering up something
I caught that as well.
I picked up on that to...I was waiting for the defense to say something
I took it as he used to have social media but doesn’t have public social media anymore. I assumed because of the harassment