@@Lfoeköeliifkkkkkdkfjfjskkf yea it’s kinda hard, I just love reckoning, and I feel like ret paladin as a class is kinda not in the best spot right now other classes are just way better overall, I’ve been doing pretty well playing reckoning this phase though
If you wanna see some great old school reckoning pvp, check out Jamaz if his videos are still around, timing reck bombs with some grenades is deadly. I was so mad when Pally was changed back in the day. Reckoning was so overpowered, but so few people used it :(
What stage reckoning this is, do you lose stacks when locking in target and the switching? Like it was nerfed in Classic. There if you startattack (right click) you are locked with stacks to that person. If you can't hit him stacs are wasted. So needed to do /stopattack when not engaging
What is your opinion in dwarf vs human? Some guides say human cause of sword and mace spezialication and some guides say dwarf cause of stoneform vs rogue and frost resistance vs mage.. what do you think, especially in SoD?
Human perception is kinda nice in pvp, Human sword and mace skill is nice for pve, dwarf stoneskin is too good to pass up in pvp in my opinion, gives you another trinket against blind and you can wipe like every poison from a rogue in one single gcd, so id say dwarf overall is probably better but if you want to play human you will still be able to be good at pvp, my main on era is a human
Bro, Paladin Danse here. I LOVE your content. I haven't been very vocal about the pally stuff in the past years. I really love your stuff. AD Victoriam!
It works, if you have a target targeted and switch targets the stacks reset it’s kinda similar to a rogues combo points, so you gotta sometimes turn your auto attack off and on between swinging, reckoning is a kinda weird spec to play
So I just tried it, and in BG it doesn’t feel good at all, in general fighting a class that doesn’t crit often feels miserable. However I do think twisting may become viable next patch
Does this still work? I don't understand the thing about the stacks, I thought at 100% the (free) hit would be triggered automatically? How do I “save” all the stacks for a single shot?
Right now in average I have as a Ret Paladin (with shit gear) 3-7kills and cca 30 honorable kills Is that somehow good or ok? I wanna try this Reckoning build but not having anything from the Ret talent tree is kinda scary :P
That’s not bad, I have like 3 green items on which I’m going to hopefully replace with raid gear soon, I just got them cause they were plate for the armor, in bg’s when our teams doing decent I’ll usually get somewhere around 5-10 kills every game sometimes more and I don’t die super often
this one should work, with 0 stacks the symbol is transparent, go to the weak aura and delete the alpha conditions in the weak aura conditionals tab and it will always show up like mine does
I can try and do a rotation kinda video, a lot of reckoning is situational I feel like, you’re doing a lot of start attack stop attack stuff and waiting for things to line up to get your stacks
I think overall other classes are outperforming but I tend to do pretty decent in battlegrounds even as reckoning, but I’ve played nothing but ret paladin for years, damage output overall feels low, and the class is still missing some key abilities in there toolkit but I think it’s still somewhat playable
Hi, i don't get it, where you get 4 normal attacks? In the talent description it says - 20% to gain extra attack. So you have normal and one additional. No?
Hey, can you show me how to do wa where the reck ships. I have it downloaded and loaded but unfortunately it doesn't show up for me... I don't know how to comprehend it
Replace that 6slot pouch homie :) Couldn't agree with Sacred Shield, Art of war is much better in almost every case. Plus without movespeed bonus, makes it tricky when fighting casters. Gunna stick with Ret, can still destroy with the usual pvp build. Even when thinking about sacred shield in wotlk, im like extra crit chance of flash of light proc within art of war (insta flash) So even then, it's not doing much. When comparing them within two xpacs gap ;p
Yea I need new bags lmfao, haven’t even looked at my bags recently tbh forgot I even had a 6 slotter, yea art of war could be decent too, and I have the ab boots so I move just as fast when I’m not mounted, if I was getting instant flash of lights with art of war I’d probably take it but idk I might test it out a bit, I still think sacred shields not too bad
For sure, I just find reckoning fun it’s my favorite spec to play, casters can be a little rough but you can still get some nice kills on them quite a bit, priests and warlocks are pretty rough though
I think other classes in SoD are doing a lot more damage then paladin overall right now, most of my white hits without reckoning are hitting for like 200, crits are usually around 400-600, most casters are doing way more damage then paladin overall
More single target damage, and we don’t have command yet, maybe later on we could try out divine storm, I still use divine storm for the stv event but everywhere else I use martyr, also twisting into reck stacks martyr adds a extra like 500 something damage total with all the hits
I think they need to make holy shock a 15 seconds cooldown, it being a 30 second cooldown still sucks, and the runes they gave for shockadin just don’t feel like enough yet, we will see though maybe it will get better
![Season of Discovery Phase 3 RECKONING PALADIN PvP [LvL 50] QUICK GUIDE](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/--JFj-Q3Z8w/mqdefault.jpg)
talents are in the description
I use the pacifier 4.00 speed
Insanity
This is what ive been playing too. I grinded GM in classic as reckoning. Reck/ret has always been my favorite build.
Same I like reckoning a lot
It a bit to bursty in sod no ? I usually do t get a nice reckbomb out without bubble
@@Lfoeköeliifkkkkkdkfjfjskkf yea it’s kinda hard, I just love reckoning, and I feel like ret paladin as a class is kinda not in the best spot right now other classes are just way better overall, I’ve been doing pretty well playing reckoning this phase though
You should be using Martyrdom btw if you REALLY want to make the enemy bleed. Makes righteousness look like hot steaming garbo
I use martyr, I twist into righteousness so I get both seals
@@StevenBonez I was under the impression that twisting is 100% not in SoD in its current state
@@justinTime077 you can twist anything with command, martyr, and righteousness, you just cant twist command and martyr together that's the only thing
If you wanna see some great old school reckoning pvp, check out Jamaz if his videos are still around, timing reck bombs with some grenades is deadly. I was so mad when Pally was changed back in the day. Reckoning was so overpowered, but so few people used it :(
Weapon chain is crucial for any melee in pvp especially since hunters can disarm you for a lifetime.
Yea for sure
What ? What expansion are you smoking?
@@justinTime077 vanilla wow lol
@@justinTime077hunters can disarm in SoD
What stage reckoning this is, do you lose stacks when locking in target and the switching?
Like it was nerfed in Classic.
There if you startattack (right click) you are locked with stacks to that person. If you can't hit him stacs are wasted. So needed to do /stopattack when not engaging
yea if you start attack and switch targets you loose the stacks, yea i constantly stop attack when im fighting
Hello the weakaura does not work for me is there a way that you can show the modifications to be made?
This is the one I use, if you want it to show all the time like mine delete the alpha conditions
wago.io/o4jWNQI5L
What is your opinion in dwarf vs human? Some guides say human cause of sword and mace spezialication and some guides say dwarf cause of stoneform vs rogue and frost resistance vs mage.. what do you think, especially in SoD?
Human perception is kinda nice in pvp, Human sword and mace skill is nice for pve, dwarf stoneskin is too good to pass up in pvp in my opinion, gives you another trinket against blind and you can wipe like every poison from a rogue in one single gcd, so id say dwarf overall is probably better but if you want to play human you will still be able to be good at pvp, my main on era is a human
stoneskin is also basically a extra trinket against blind
This here is every player in SoD. “What’s the very best x to choose?” 💩
Bro, Paladin Danse here. I LOVE your content. I haven't been very vocal about the pally stuff in the past years. I really love your stuff. AD Victoriam!
That was great guide!
Thank you for video, could you please link the addon that shows your Reckoning stacks?
wago.io/o4jWNQI5L
TY! Light be with you brother pally!@@StevenBonez
I went deep prot for tanking and had reckoning. I felt like I never got rec to proc. I always thought it was broken
It works, if you have a target targeted and switch targets the stacks reset it’s kinda similar to a rogues combo points, so you gotta sometimes turn your auto attack off and on between swinging, reckoning is a kinda weird spec to play
So I just tried it, and in BG it doesn’t feel good at all, in general fighting a class that doesn’t crit often feels miserable. However I do think twisting may become viable next patch
For sure, I do pretty well in bg’s but I’ve been maining reckoning for a long time, a lot of it is just getting stacks and then going in
LET'S GOOOOOO
Does this still work? I don't understand the thing about the stacks, I thought at 100% the (free) hit would be triggered automatically?
How do I “save” all the stacks for a single shot?
@@unnamed5603 when you get a stack if you already have your auto attack on and turn it off you’ll lose the stacks
@@unnamed5603 so you have to commit to a target or get the stacks while you’re auto attack is off and start attack to use the stacks
Curious, do you not put any points into Anticipation because increased defense means you'll be crit less?
You could put points into it, but I just prefer the one that gives armor since I have improved devo aura I’ll get a lot of armor scaling out of it
@@gaugamela4759 Just looked it up, the more defense you have the less you'll be crit, so 0 points in anticipation is the way to go.
Right now in average I have as a Ret Paladin (with shit gear) 3-7kills and cca 30 honorable kills
Is that somehow good or ok?
I wanna try this Reckoning build but not having anything from the Ret talent tree is kinda scary :P
That’s not bad, I have like 3 green items on which I’m going to hopefully replace with raid gear soon, I just got them cause they were plate for the armor, in bg’s when our teams doing decent I’ll usually get somewhere around 5-10 kills every game sometimes more and I don’t die super often
Overall I think deep ret is a easier spec to play and it’s pretty good right now if you build for crit and spam your exorcism with the art of war rune
Can you still sit proc like we did in classic?
Yea it’s kinda weird but you can still prestack
i tried it but i never crits, its not that good because the weapon swing are also weak without the ret talent 2h damage
but id love it if it worked
It will definitely get better at level 60
I think I’m just so used to playing reckoning I’m making it work, I’ve had a lot of bg’s where I’m going like 10+ kills 0 deaths already it’s sick
hey man nice vid
what addon are you using for tracking reck stacks?
It’s a weak aura
thanks pal!
@@StevenBonez
@@tbalmer1207 if you use weak auras I’m sure you can search reckoning stack tracker and it should be there
@@StevenBonez ye got it. Heading to bootybay to one shot some fools. Ha
is this spec still working? i've tried it and i don't get all the hits from reck'
It still works, if you have your auto attack on and switch targets the stacks will fall off, idk what’s going on on your end though
What wa or add on is tracking reckoning? I can’t find a working one
wago.io/o4jWNQI5L
this one should work, with 0 stacks the symbol is transparent, go to the weak aura and delete the alpha conditions in the weak aura conditionals tab and it will always show up like mine does
@@StevenBonez thank you tons
@@StevenBonez btw is it me or do the reckoning autos not crit?
@@edfoman they can crit, think it’s just that we have pretty low crit chance right now
Cactusmaximus 🤘
Did they de-activate it? i cant get any reckoning stacks and extra attacks.
I don't think you can force them by sitting if thats what your trying.
The /sit has been nerfed during Classic 2019
So this doesn’t work anymore I’m assuming
pali bros unite!
Can you make a rotation guide, how you play in BG as a reck Paladin?
I can try and do a rotation kinda video, a lot of reckoning is situational I feel like, you’re doing a lot of start attack stop attack stuff and waiting for things to line up to get your stacks
Does Redoubt also work when you dont have a shield on?
@@tonizaharija1072 yea but it doesn’t do anything unless you have a shield on
in the current sod forum theres are rets, complaining about ret pala, and say it is unplayable in pvp do you agree with them?
I think overall other classes are outperforming but I tend to do pretty decent in battlegrounds even as reckoning, but I’ve played nothing but ret paladin for years, damage output overall feels low, and the class is still missing some key abilities in there toolkit but I think it’s still somewhat playable
Well done homie
Thanks dude!
what WA for tracking reckoning?
sick build bro
Hi dude whats the addon for your numbers on the reckoning swing?
weakaura i guess
u forgot to coVer talents :D nice Vid dude!
Yea I even recorded it, but forgot to put it in the video lmao, talents are in the description though
Hi, i don't get it, where you get 4 normal attacks? In the talent description it says - 20% to gain extra attack. So you have normal and one additional. No?
if you're talking about the reckoning talent, with 5 points in its 100% chance when you get critically hit to get a extra attack
Yes, this is clear. But it is 100% to get ONE extra attack. In the video mentioned 4 extra attacks. Or this reckoning buff could be stacked 4 times?
@@stanislavfedun9066 reckoning can stack up to 4 times
Now it’s clear, thanks
you can twist martyr into righteous? i thought it was other way around
Either way works, you just can’t twist martyr and command at all
@@StevenBonez gotcha, thank you
Nice
Noice gonna try it
Hey, can you show me how to do wa where the reck ships. I have it downloaded and loaded but unfortunately it doesn't show up for me... I don't know how to comprehend it
If you delete the alpha conditions in the conditionals tab it will always show up like mine otherwise it will gradually be lit as you get stacks
tested the specc, and its insanly funny vs melees, but vs any caster u are getting hella useles ofc
You can still beat casters but sometimes it’s a little tricky for sure
It will be a lot better at lvl 60
What is you stats prio?
Stamina and strenght for ret/reckoning?
No Power? can you explain that?
Attack power is important too, just not a lot of gear will have it yet
Replace that 6slot pouch homie :)
Couldn't agree with Sacred Shield, Art of war is much better in almost every case.
Plus without movespeed bonus, makes it tricky when fighting casters.
Gunna stick with Ret, can still destroy with the usual pvp build.
Even when thinking about sacred shield in wotlk, im like extra crit chance of flash of light proc within art of war (insta flash)
So even then, it's not doing much. When comparing them within two xpacs gap ;p
Yea I need new bags lmfao, haven’t even looked at my bags recently tbh forgot I even had a 6 slotter, yea art of war could be decent too, and I have the ab boots so I move just as fast when I’m not mounted, if I was getting instant flash of lights with art of war I’d probably take it but idk I might test it out a bit, I still think sacred shields not too bad
how are you tracking your reckoning stacks?
wago.io/o4jWNQI5L
It’s a weak aura
DO you use a shield?
With reckoning you don’t really want to switch weapons, there are builds that use 1h weapon and shield reckoning though
Dope
Usually Paladins are squishy but this build looks not squishy
reckoning procing seal of matrydom 5 times and auto attacking 5 times... paladins on top baby
its kinda like how righteousness is in era when you hit every hit will have righteousness but in SoD you can twist and get both
Zach Galifinakis?!
Good against melees and hunters, doing not much more than eye of eye, will wait till we could have both
For sure, I just find reckoning fun it’s my favorite spec to play, casters can be a little rough but you can still get some nice kills on them quite a bit, priests and warlocks are pretty rough though
also looked at gnomer sets for pala today and wow the plate set seems so awful
yea think its more of a tanking set, the stats are okay though
Mate nice vid but a pala is legit a face roll class.. no video required
I think other classes in SoD are doing a lot more damage then paladin overall right now, most of my white hits without reckoning are hitting for like 200, crits are usually around 400-600, most casters are doing way more damage then paladin overall
Wait. This isn't Wenches.
😂
Reckoning PVP paladin in WSG and AB is completely busted
gg steven, i go as deep ret cuz i drop "The Pacifier" 4.00 weap speed,is just insane both pve and pvp
any reason for martyrdom over divine storm?
More single target damage, and we don’t have command yet, maybe later on we could try out divine storm, I still use divine storm for the stv event but everywhere else I use martyr, also twisting into reck stacks martyr adds a extra like 500 something damage total with all the hits
why should peopel go rec when they oneshot you anyway without lol
where the shockadin hype?
I think they need to make holy shock a 15 seconds cooldown, it being a 30 second cooldown still sucks, and the runes they gave for shockadin just don’t feel like enough yet, we will see though maybe it will get better
4got the talent tree o.O
Yea I actually recorded it to then forgot to put it in the video lol, but I put the talents in the description
Talents?
wow i literally recorded the talents too, ill input them and send them to you on the wowhead thing
forgot to put the video in the video lol
www.wowhead.com/classic/talent-calc/paladin/501-5132510003005
put the talents down below
Wow takes 0 skill to play
Exactly what I need.
Nothing needs skill in this phase in pvp
seal twisting and autoattack control is kinda difficult to pull off in pvp more so than a normal skill rotation