HW News - Steam Deck OLED Issues, NVIDIA RTX 5880, AMD Drivers, & Crazy ROG Ally Mods
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In this episode, we were on location for a secret, not-yet-released video (guess where in the comments!) and decided to set up and film HW News. The news last week included a follow-up to the alleged NVIDIA RTX 4090 Dragon (and other cards) with the US Government telling NVIDIA, basically, to 'deal with it.' We also cover the Steam Deck OLED's problem with a noisy headphone jack, which we were able to successfully recreate on some devices when plugged in. There's some additional talk about a community fix to the noisy Steam Deck OLED headphone jack. We also cover ASUS Ally mods that are getting wild, the RTX 5880's existence, and AMD's RDNA 3 idle power draw fixes.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - On Location Weekly Recap
01:24 - US Government Tells NVIDIA to Deal With It
04:40 - Steam Deck OLED Noisy Headphone Jack
07:33 - ASUS ROG Ally Mods Are Mad
11:45 - AMD Fixes RDNA 3 Idle Power Draw (Again)
13:26 - Alphacool Apex RAM Cooler
14:59 - NVIDIA RTX 5880
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Can anyone tell which city this is? We were just there for a secret video that we're working on! Decided to set up and film news somewhere nice. Thanks for letting us teleport to your town!
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Definitely a city in America.
Beaverton?
Wtf is a kilometer?
Arizona?
🤣
The weirder the news gets, the sassier Steve gets, and I am 100% here for it.
When life becomes weirder than parody, always fun to see how everyone reacts xP
Steve always gives a good laugh ^^
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro” as Hunter S. Thompson used to say.
Why wants sassy. That's a femail trait for 1. What man wants watch a another man act like a woman
Heyyyy ❤❤❤❤❤ thanks for sharing my video ! It’s so fun modding. I have a ton of other mods up my sleeve too. This is like a fever dream waking up to see myself featured in a gamers nexus video but I love it ❤
Your mod was awesome! Really cool to see people doing what you're doing. I respect the hell out of it and love when people take device freedom and run with it. Keep it up!
dangerous mtf.
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Jensen immediately gives me the vibe of someone who would make Skynet to make a profit
Wait, I'm supposed to be making Skynet to not make a profit?
@@KenS1267 sorry, as in full well knowing what he’s about to make yet not caring
He seems a bit unhinged.
The recent success of NVIDIA and interest of investors and governments can only get to your head. If every major tech company wants your product and governments consider it an issue of national security and can only bloat your ego.
Jensen is the best CEO because he is a piece of shit soulless human that's probably going to hell. It's what mega monopolies of today demand!
Dang, that intro was awesome. Thanks Steve!
That was Tim's editing! He was really excited about that edit. Sometimes it's fun to do something different for us!
I guess the Matrix is real! 😂
@@crookim Matrix? That was a damn good Transporter beam from Star Trek! Energize!
@@GamersNexusas soon as I saw that I went “oh this again huh? hahah!” Wonderful.
@@GamersNexus He should have caused you to teleport out after your closing line. gg Tim!
This video made me aware of the Steam Deck OLED's audio issue. I hadn't used the headphone jack yet so I had to test this and, as luck would have it, I've got that faint-yet-unmistakable buzz coming through the headphones. Darn. Guess I'll start the process of getting in touch with Steam Support. You might find me in your inbox soon with updates on how the experience goes.
Thanks for covering this! I wouldn't have known otherwise until probably way later when I eventually took this thing on a trip.
Dang time to test mine when I get home... I pray I don't have it as mines a limited edition one
It's 2023.. Who uses an audio jack these days
@@jamiedyas9080 That's besides the point. There's an audio jack on the device and I should expect it to work flawlessly.
The PCB was simplified but it seems as if the audio circuit was made too simple with insufficient filtering. Valve might need to add beefier capacitors to better filter out noise. Hopefully it's just a supplier issue that can be solved by sourcing components elsewhere without any redesign.
@@IncompAlt your opinion. It's completely irrelevant to me. Haven't used an audio jack in 15 years. Certainly wouldn't RMA a device for an issue that won't effect me and id imagine many feel the same.
Glad to see GN have Steve do on-site News Reporting. A lot of tech youtubers are nerdy shut-ins and not willing to get their hands dirty out in the field. The tech is out there in the trees, in the birds, and behind the bushes. We need someone like Steve who's not afraid to interview pigeons in front of the public just because of big society's social norms!
@GamersNexus just have to say it. I love the news outdoors. It is so nice to see actually trees and what not when talking highly technical topics. I would love to see an "outdoor set" one day if you guys ever had that opportunity to use it regularly.
I hope he does one in a crowded area like a Starbucks outdoor seating or Central Park, I wanna see passerbys reaction
I personally would like to see news in the dredged Epic lot, though I can meet in the middle for some lovely nature shots.
Well, they have a garden area in the new HQ so it could be possible
@@cat-.-they just walk by
these outside intro shots are hilarious
Love the new format..gamers finally touching grass..looking forward to know about the side effects.
They are looking for a place for a new Nexus
I've heard of the debuffs you can get from touching grass, there's a really bad one called 'allergies' as I understand it. Supposedly it makes your frame rate rate drop considerably and maxes out your motion blur settings to unacceptable levels.
Not only did this location have grass, but a river and birds too - so as that's R, G & B, all should be well.
Hell is grass?
@brinewind8732 you know when you spill Mountain Dew and it dries? Kind of that color except it's in little sheets and cows eat it.
This kind of hard hitting reporting is why i rely on GN for all my hard-hitting bird related news. Oh, and also the tech stuff, too.
But mostly the bird news. Thank God it landed.
I know right - edge of the seat stuff..will it, won't it land? We'll all remember this for years to come. (Genuine non sarcastic comment - Steve's dry humour is so refreshing in a potentially sterile tech media 👍)
Your joke landed like a 747 in a microburst.
If Nvidia wants sympathy they should consider not being opening antagonists to the customers
HAHAHH yes very clever... they shit on us...we ignore their "O WOE is me". I bought their 4080FE so they already sucked my blood.
Nvidia is your daddy and you will obey...
Nvidia is no longer a graphics company but is instead an AI company.
Therefore, they really couldn't care anymore less for GPU fanboys and their whims.
@@garyb7193 Will their AI eventually turn into Skynet?
@@GeordiLaForgery Starlink is already in the process of doing that chief.
i appreciate steve in nature. please do more intros like this.
I hope a hunter doesn’t mistake him for a Sasquatch.
@@iamghostwitagun3800 that bird had it out for him 😂
It seems you can fix the steam deck OLED's jack by just loosening the screws on the board just a bit. Seems like the screw tolerances weren't adjusted with the new screws.
Significantly simpler than wrapping specific parts of the board in electrical tape.
hmm ill have to try this, it may just be that the board is overtightened
How? Is the screw drilling through the shell into backside shielding of OLED or something? Or capacitance thing?
This is good to know, and I hope this simple solution is both consistent and shared as much as possible.
@@user-cr4sc1ht9t Grounding issue with the edge of the board if I understand it correctly.
@@user-cr4sc1ht9t If the OP claim is accurate, then this would imply that two or more screws are too long and making contact with conductive portions of the PCB and/or components on the PCB creating a short to ground (battery). The best way to find out is to multimeter ohm resistance test every pair of screws for short to ground.
That on-location intro is pure gold.
That intro was cool. It’s great to start off on a fun clip IMO. Loved the outdoor video too. Surprisingly great audio considering how hard it can be when shooting outdoors. Thanks GN Team.
I think another important aspect when it comes to device noise being audible on headphones is the sensitivity. The IEM's presented have an impedance of 20.5ohm and sensitivity of 120dB/vRMS, meaning they'll be very susceptible to noise like that.
But the DT 990 PRO 250ohm have sensitivity of 96dB/vRMS and the HD 6XX 300ohm have a sensitivity of 103dB/vRMS, which does lower the point at which such noise is hearable but it also makes them harder to drive since they are meant for studio usage.
Then again don't quote me on that, I just know that both of these parameters matter in headphones and that IEM's are super sensitive to any kind of noise.
The kapton tape/screw loosening fix completely cures the noise even for sensitive IEMs.
@@MGMan37 True, but it's important to understand the issue. If you take an oscilloscope, you'll find some level of noise on the jack even after the fix. Though separating it from the background noise the scope picks up might not be easy.
Why am I so confident? Because every audio system has noise. It's just not something that makes it onto the spec sheet for most consumer electronics. In this case, the designers/QA probably assumed the noise floor was higher, or the added impedance of headphones removed the noise.
Love the coverage for handhelds! Definitely a more interesting space now.
Beardymcgee, yesitskira, and I really pushed the platform.
Not even a week after the Ally launched I had already yolo'd my G15 battery inside my Ally. Kira was hard at work designing a back cover for it and beardymcgee was already ordering 8gb chips from China and ripping apart the bios 😂
Now that I'm going through an MBA program, I can fully appreciate Steve's proper term usage. He really doesn't have to, but he chooses to, and that speaks volumes to me when used with transparency and facts. I love this channel even more now. I even tried to share the channel with one of my professors to get his thoughts (the Epic story video).
I dont own an Ally or Deck or any handheld.. but I love seeing the hardware/software modder community come together on these devices and really tune them up. Badass.
Thank you for giving updates for the full review of the SD OLED, I'm really looking for it!
It's actually HD. HD starts from 720p, and Full HD is 1080p, then QHD 1440p and 4k is another topic😅
@@moto6981 dude, SD stands for Steam Deck...
Shoutout to whoever did the headphone jack testing on the steam deck. Truthear hexa are exceptionally good IEMs for the price, great pick.
Good you are taking your time with the Steam Deck OLED review
Loving these on-location shots.
Steve in the wild, this is going to be good! Thanks Steve and the team!
Props to Valve for promptly offering to fix it for free. More companies need to respond to issues like them, as you can't possibly catch everything with internal QA alone.
yeah this is one of those: "Mistakes happens, it matters how you react to them" cases. And Valve passed the test with flying colors.
Of course they gonna fix it for free 😂, it's not like it's consumer problem
@@TRX25EXjust something not every company does
@@TRX25EXsteam fan girls think valve is some type of good boy handicapped company. That’s a horrible quality issue but a great example how their fans will take every opportunity to meat ride them
@@Hugh_I It's more like _Valve got it right before, and now Valve is moving backwards._ The fix for the OLED Decks indicate that this is a manufacturing error. Similar problems on the LCD Decks don't compare. I have LCD and OLED decks. No issue with the LCD Deck hardware. Universal issue with the later, OLED Deck hardware.
loving the random location intros like this steve!
Just going to say, loved the lighthearted outdoor segment.
Thank you for covering the 3.5mm jack issue with the steam deck OLED! I'm one of the folks that fixed it the DIY way but very curious what their "official" fix turns out to be.
If it is an internal ground loop then it will have to be a hardware revision, and a true fix will probably be more complex than isolating the audio board since technically they should be getting rid of the difference in potential, while the community fix just masks it (which is absolutely fine for a community fix but not good enough for a full production solution).
@@bosstowndynamics5488Agreed. It is amateur hour for Valve. I have a Steam Deck LCD. There's no audio issues; the issues have arisen for some units, but it's not a universal manufacturing problem. The kapton tape fix works exactly BECAUSE this is a universal manufacturing problem for OLED Decks (unless their line is so ultra-shoddy that screws are in different places in different units, which it can't be.) They need to overhaul the line on this one.
Nice news format! Thank you for highlighting the Steam Deck OLED audio issue. Steam has to take this issue more seriously. Steam support replied to my ticket in summary with this: the noise floor is within their standards and sending a new unit to me wouldn't solve the issue (but they can if I want them to). They did not offer a repair to me. (EU)
Do you have the issue or are you trying to be proactive? Not all audio lacks are silent. This isn't a hifi device unfortunately.
@@seitenryu6844 I actually have this issue, and it truly bothers me. I noticed it by my self instantly after plugging in my earphones. I don't have any audiophile equipment, I mainly use mid tier wired earphones (to get an okay sound quality without any latency). I don't think this elevated "noise floor level" is acceptable as Valve representatives stated that the OLED is the "definitve" steam deck experience. I have an LCD model also, without any static noise, so technically it's superior in this regard...
That intro to the video was really good ! I like this new style of doing the HW news! ..with birds and all!! 👍
I really enjoy seeing you guys out filming the news outside. I really like this format, and I think it works well. Now I want to see Steve doing an Unsolved Mysteries show as a host hahaha
I saw the thumbnail with dangerous Ally mods and immediately thought "it's the folded battery guy."
It was the folded battery guy. Hahaha
hahaha, yep
Hey it's me, the folded battery guy 😂
@@GamersNexusto be fair she's been holding up fine for 5 months.
We went through like 20 different prototype back panels to get one that could be 3D printed and still feels as good as the original. A ton of work went into it.
A li-po battery can start the chemical reaction at any point once damaged. They can release gasses that are 800f, enough for them to burn down most structures.
I hope you never trust it. Watched people's cars burn up after wrecking am RC car.
It sounds like fun, until you're not careful enough.
@@SlyNine Absolutely, the guide goes over not to damage the pouch cell. When we say folded, the cells themselves aren't actually folded. We are just reorganizing the layout of the battery pack.
If done correctly you are left with a battery pack that's just as safe as the original. If done incorrectly you have a potential ied and house fire.
Yay news, thanks hardware man Steve.
Steve, that tree posture at the beginning was chef's kiss. It almost reminded me LOTR scene with Treebeard. Love your content.
Thanks for running the section on the Deck OLED. I have the same issue. I am using the speakers only right now since latency is too wild on bluetooth and wired headphone is my only option for quality audio reproduction. I will share back how it works. I created a ticket with them and waiting to hear back. I specifically linked to this video to show that the issue can be replicated easily.
Steve do just be teleporting in sometimes
Easiest way to travel!
My 7900xtx is still idling at around 50 watts with the newest update. That's been pretty much consistent since I got it near launch. There have been a couple of times it dipped down to 20 watts, I think after updating drivers one of the previous times it was "fixed," but it didn't last. It would be back up to 50 again after a reboot or running a game or something. I have not been able to figure out the exact conditions that resulted in "good" idle power draw or reproduce it.
EDIT: A little further investigation reveals that it's the adrenaline "metrics" tab itself causing the high power draw. Tipped off by the "tuning" tab reporting lower after a second or two, and then confirmed using GPU-Z and CPU-ID HWmonitor (couldn't find power reporting in HWinfo64) showing ~10-25w idle and then increasing to match what adrenaline was reporting when I opened the metrics tab. What a self-own. I weep for the nvidia competitor that COULD be if AMD just gave a shit.
NVIDIA is so far ahead that they could be a node behind and still beat the best Radeon. There’s no point in AMD wasting their time and resources trying to compete
The topic about mods was very nice, you could post more of it
Good to know about the Steam Deck, checked mine and it's all good from what I can tell. Appreciate what you do! Can't wait for the review to see your thoughts overall.
All of these mods remind me of the PSP era. Those got pretty crazy as well. Especially when we were hacking the literal code on the battery to allow Custom Firmware to be installed.
I love that gamers nexus are super serious about using insanely precise workflows and mesurements. That's why "euros is metric for dollar".
I can't wait for Steve to start measuring video length in furlongs.
I really like these guys They can be very serious talking about serious and important things but they still keep things light-hearted and fun while showing you the full picture of the topic in the videos. What an enjoyable and informational show!
These intros are amazing, outdoor intros>>>>
5:05 "You want another take on that B roll?" "Nah, it's cute"
The good ol' give the audience anxiety that it'll fall down shot!
@@GamersNexus If we get another b roll where an item does fall, it has to fall in slow motion with overly dramatic music in the background. The more expensive the item, the more dramatic the music.
My personal fix for the headphone issue was using a USB C DAC (specifically an Apple one ironically enough), I am told that just loosening the daughterboard screws a bit also fixes it too but I really don't feel like opening it and I'm debating on whether or not I wanna RMA my Deck OLED.
the audio board is very easy to access once u pop open the back. if you wanna play it safe tho u can just RMA the deck and Valve will fix it for you
Loosening the screws seems like a jank fix compared to adding some tape. I guess loosening them would make the contact poor, but adding tape seems like a much cleaner solution.
If loosening screws is a fix, presumably it's because the screws are slightly too long and their tip is shorting against something?
If so, you could file down the screws a bit, or source replacements, if the dimensions and threading are known.
No. As was said in the video, probably a ground loop. The screws provide ground for the board, if you insulated the screw, you interrupt ground. it's a common issue with audio equipment. Shorting against something doesn't make sense.@@wereoctopus
@@jort93z ah ok, I did hear Steve mention a "ground loop", but I didn't know what that actually means in circuit design. I'll go look it up :)
It's interesting to hear this about the Steam Deck OLED. My PS Vita slim, which I bought in 2016, has always had this issue when set to mute, except the hiss was through the speakers rather than the 3.5m jack. It's never bothered me though, as I have to basically put my ear to the speaker to hear it.
i did the tape fix for the OLED headphone jack, if you have some patience or precision tweezers you don't even need to take the daughter board out. after the tape and loosening the screws every so slightly it is perfect with no issues on the wifi/bluetooth card
That intro. 😎👍
My 7900xt draws 20W idle using a single 1080p monitor.
It uses 100W idle when running 2x1080p@120Hz and 1x2160p@120Hz
absolutely loving the new transitions lol you guys are they best pc channel in the world by far !! keep it up steve and company
Loving the outdoor shoots 💕
11:45 Aaaaaand spoiler:
my setup with a 79XTX, 1x 1440p 165hz and 2x 1080p 75hz monitors still runs at 100w idle and forced maximum VRAM clocks on the new driver.
That is, unless i specifically reduce the refresh rates to 120 and 60 respectively, i.e. clean multiples, at which point it behaves normal again alnd allows the VRAM to actually downclock when idle. Looking forward to the next "again" on this one!
Such a nice breath of fresh air seeing a HW News shot in an open field. Maybe I just don't get outside enough :P
The Steam Deck OLED issue is something where I'm glad a channel with your visibility is drawing attention.
A few channels have begun talking about this, and it's pretty important to consumers around holiday purchases.
If you're interested in the history of Nvidia, Acquired podcast did a fantastic two-parter episode on it. It's a fascinating story that covers not only the graphics cards, but their forays into datacenter computing, CUDA and AI.
Definitely quite a few quality control issues with the OLED deck, on mine my left trackpad haptic was very noisy no matter the strength it was at while the right side was pretty quiet, ended up buying a Deck and the replacement was fine. WiFi driver for Linux is complete crap as it has trouble with 160Mhz at 5ghz using WPA3, WPA2 works better but it's not a 100% fix (think Valve has acknowledged the WiFi issues), plus BOE having lots of issues with dead pixels but those panels seem mostly limited to the LE OLED version. Both of my screens on the regular 1TB were Samsung and both were free of dead pixels thankfully. Seen one person with a disconnected audio cable internally that they had to reconnect, one had a dead speaker and one had a dirty looking thumbstick that couldn't be cleaned.
Not great quality control on this OLED version but it's worth going through the hassle if you have to as the OLED panel on this is stunning.
I will be saving up to buy this via Steam gift cards then bite and hopefully it will be fixed by then.
Great videos guys, just a small note, headphone impedance probably isn’t the best metric for knowing if a noise floor will be audible on a given pair of headphones or IEMs, as impedance doesn’t directly correlate to how audible the noise floor will be. Noise floor becomes audible because of a given amount of interference or crosstalk and the more power a headphones requires, the less this floor tends to be noticeable. A better metric would be the listed sensitivity usually noted in dB per watt, which is the measurement of how loud the headphones will get at a given power input.
lol!!! Love the intro and the bird was the icing on the cake 👍
The RDNA3 idle power draw is not quite completely fixed on my very wacky 3 monitor setup (Gigabyte M27U @ 4K150, AOC 24G2 @ 1080p144, ASUS cheapo 22" @ 1080p60, idle power draw is still 90W). With some custom resolution and nerfing the AOC to 1080p100, I can get to 40~50W.
Not quite sure it is a monitor specific thing or the setup is just too wacky though.
EDIT: 7900XTX.
I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm STILL having USB disconnect issues on my Zen3 platform that AMD has claimed to "fix" like 4 fucking times now. Finally gave AMD another chance and quickly remembered why I swore them off to begin with. Back to Intel for me.
finally, thank you for addressing the steam deck OLED issues. I had to RMA my device because of the audio jack and dead pixels on my Limited Edition. Disappointed but my replacement unit comes in on Thursday! Please address the mura and dead pixel issues!!
any OLED screen will have dead pixels sooner or later, i have some on my tv from 3 years old but are so small that i don't notice it and they're black so i don't bother but on a 7inch display i bet we can notice it
My replacement has dead pixels. Great! At least steam support is helpful and accommodating to the issue instead of leaving me out to dry @@cristianJoker2512
It’s really cool to see so many tech YT’ers using your build mats and silicone mats. And if they weren’t superb in quality, you know they’d love to tell the internet, so…
amazing intro and cuts :'D
I literally just sent a support request to Valve about this issue.
if possible, do you think you could try and get in touch with Valve about future regional availability for the Steam Deck? i haven't seen anyone covering the Deck who's asked about this or even mentioned it, and its a shame considering the system isn't available for a lot of the rest of the world. Valve promised it'd be available in Australia and there's still no news on that at all, and its been years.
I think this is first time in my life i have been reccomended to rewatch a video
I like that intro When you enter and plus Talking and Walking
New AMD driver didn’t fix idle power draw on my 7900XT. I actually think it’s worse. Currently drawing around 90 watts idle. I have two monitors, one is 1440p, 165hz, and the other is 1080p 144hz. If I drop the 1440p down to 144hz, idle power draw drops to a bit over 30 watts.
Do you have an AMD CPU as well by any chance? It sounds like it's something to do with not being able to render frames for both monitors at the same time (although if you've got variable refresh rate monitors that *shouldn't* be an issue, it's possible that W11 isn't varying the refresh rate at idle).
Next week on Gamers Nexus: Steve & Co giving tech news while juggling
lol, bruh these on location shots and transitions are the best.
I also noticed the Steam Deck audio white noise. Thanks for covering this, as someone good and decent and therefore not a redditor, I wouldn't have known if you hadn't said.
Idle power still hasn't been fixed for many, including me:
~120W idle on my xfx 7900 xt (black edition) with 1440p180Hz + 1080p75Hz
It's weird because I'll get 105w idle with 7900xtx and three monitors 4k 60hz 1440p 165hz 1440p 60hz but as soon as I disconnect my 4k 60hz, it goes down to 30w
Wow. Super high. That's with the latest driver?
Both panels seem a bit out of the ordenary. Ive a 1440p 165hz and a 4k 60hz and my 7900xtx is running at 20-30W idle
7900xtx 59w 42inch 4k monitor & 25inch 1080p monitor with latest driver
same, still waiting for the next "fix"
You know what's funny, Steve? The AMD driver update actually didn't fix the idle power draw...at least for me. My 7900XT still draws 85-95W idling lmao
Mine is a lot lower than that, but my power draw went up, and my gpu is running 4 degrees warmer at idle after the update.
Thanks GN can't put my finger on what has changed but it seems like it's a good change
For some reason the GN logo flying in at the end scared the crap out of me lol
I really like Gamers Nexus's humor. Well done mates!
Want to battery mod your ROG Ally? Velcro a USB battery to the back. Done. No fire.
To be fair there's quite a few of us that have 90Wh mods now and no one's had a fire.
You get an all in one unit and it acts as a kickstand 😅
The warning on my website are pretty strong but it's only to help those who don't know what they're doing. Once it's folded and resealed, the risk of fire is no greater than a standard battery.
0:37 not even pigeons want to talk to Steve. He just wants friends to talk airflow to
amazing stuff as always!
Well, at least it's nice to hear Jensen say it out loud. I knew they were shifting away from graphics last year when they gave like 10 minutes to gaming and 45 to AI in the 40xx announcements.
"Whooshhhhh" - Coked-up Jensen Huang, 2022
It just sucks they're still the most stable in terms of drivers but recently their drivers have started to have weird issues.
If Intel keeps their prices low I'll probably switch after I upgrade my mobo and cpu
AMD didnt actually fix RDNA 3 power consumption. Go look at the AMD sub when this driver was released, many people have WORSE idle power with the new driver or its slightly decreased but still higher than it should be.
As one of the people who contacted you about the 3.5mm noise on the Deck, thank you for taking it seriously and calling it out. It ruined my experience with the Deck to the point of refunding it. Since even now Valve doesn't actually own up to more than saying "send it in", you have to wonder until when they will continue to ship out units with this already widely-known defect.
That's some of the best CGI I've seen for a natural environment.
Speaking of upgrading the memory chips on the Ally/Deck: I've seen several videos showing how to do it, but not a single comparative benchmark showing if there's any benefit to it. Would GN be interested in doing a mod and benchmarking the results? Or is it such a niche case that the team doesn't feel the need to bother?
i will tell you from what i saw in forum's, from 5 to 10% difference but it's not worth the 300 or 350e to upgrade it , if it was over 30%maybe but 10% it's too low to even consider, u can do something else that's worth it, modify the spd timing's gives me a 5% better rezults and a +4fps in fh5 on high settings fullhd benchmark ,this it's what i test it , if u are interested search here ally spd timings
I'm going to give the annoying answer of it's probably the same as upgrading the ram on any pc with the caveat that things might get a little funky because normally it shouldn't be this way.
More ram will help with things like web browsing and playing ram heavy games like city skylines, while more vram can help with loading higher resolution textures for example. But it would be interesting to see some benchmarks also due to apple's claims that 8gb should be enough on their newest laptops.
Interviewing a pigeon again. It'll work one of these times.
And just imagine when it does!
Hi Steve, just wanted to post a quick update regarding the noisy headphone jack:
I've contacted Valve on 13. Dec 23 and after giving them some info on the problem, they offered a repair for my model.
So I basically sent it over to what seems to be a third party repair center in Prague (from Germany) and I got my unit back on 5. Jan 24 (same S/N).
Problem has been fixed. Crystal clear audio, no more buzzing/hissing (16 Ohm IEMs btw) - Great customer support from Valve I'd say.
I like how when he came out from the trees my first thought was "Hey! I hear you like tech, I got some sweet tech for you"
AMD has definitely not fixed the high idle power. In contrary, it got WORSE. My idle before the update was between 7-55 watts at idle. I have a sapphire nitro 7900xtx and running a 4k 120hz panel. After the update my idle jumped to 70w minimum at constant and jumps to 90-100w regularly. I've had several discussions on reddit and it seems to be across the board for everyone running 4k panels.
Even the Tom's Hardware article notes that doing anything more than moving the mouse on an empty desktop will quickly shoot the power draw up to that range too.
Yep. My 7900xt is using more power at idle after the update.
New update broke my idle power. I have xfx 7900xtx and running 4k 144hz panel hdr on and idle power is now over 100w and vram is all time max clock. When turning hrd off idle power lowers but vram clocks are still high (909mhz).
Yikes, AMD definitely must rectify this ongoing high idle power consumption for the next Adrenaline driver.
I am all about dangerously modding hardware. I'm actually pretty good, or bad at it depending on how you look at it, and have been doing it for about twenty years. Yes, a metal bucket with sand is a good idea. I want to see more of that please.
🏥 hehe
Those ROG ally mods look fun. If I can get a cheap one somewhere I will for sure try some of them.
Steam Deck OLED also has been having way more dead pixel(s) issues that the audio jack problem. Some user RMA'd their unit and received another OLED that had dead pixel(s) again. That includes non LE and LE unit's. I don't know if the LCD Steam Deck had the same issues when it was launched but Valve needs to get their QC department under control.
intro counts as touching grass for me
Suggestion for y’all’s Deck OLED review: look into CPU power draw behavior.
On some games (ex: Hades, God of War, Doom) the Deck’s CPU draws far more power than it needs.
Changing the CPU governor actually changes this behavior - and can change Deck OLED battery life from ~4 hours to more like 8 on Hades.
How do you address the cpu governor?
@@outdoorinwithzachThe PowerTools plugin is the easiest way.
The OG Deck does this too, most notably with "vintage" games which, I guess, are just programmed to be greedy. It was especially a problem when I enabled overclocking as _FFX-2_ was pushing my Deck to 30W(!)
@@outdoorinwithzach use the plugin powertools
@@GSBarlev Yep! Just mentioned it here since they are writing a review and I really want this issue to get more visibility.
Filming HW News outside just hits different!
I still wait for Nvidia to split up into a separate AI focused company and a GPU focused company. That way if one is hit with limitation, then not the entire company (meaning all other parts) would be limited too. Isn't this the oldest strategy in existence at all?
US government will put restrictions on the parent company to make sure all of their products are hit. So that doesn't work anymore
The utter smackdown on NVIDIA was priceless. Try to avoid sanctions by just the letter of the law and we will give you a nipple cripple. Hardcore mode enabled.
Interesting videos you've been doing out in the open and in the woods maybe.
That intro gave me flashbacks to watching Reviews on the Run back in highschool lol
US Government vs NVidia, whoever loses, the world wins.
Hope that both looses then
Us government had no probs with ibm selling to hitler....
I can tell you firsthand that the AMD idle power issue is NOT entirely fixed. I'm on a 7900XTX with a singular 4K monitor and my idle power usage is always 60 watts or greater with no mouse movement on the desktop.