'AFTER' is a Fanfiction Disaster and the Movie is Worse | Explained

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  • @AmandaTheJedi
    @AmandaTheJedi  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7526

    Don't let your dreams, be dreams. Your high school self insert fanfictions could be making you MILLIONS

    • @redscorner4324
      @redscorner4324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Hahahahaha well that is something I don't want to ever see the sun

    • @RenRen013
      @RenRen013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      This is the best motivation I've ever read

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Love your videos as always, Amanda! Who knew that there's always big budget companies willing to fork out buckets of money to produce your mediocre Twilight/One Direction fanfiction! 🙄😉

    • @melissajaine_
      @melissajaine_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I’ve read all the books and seen both movies I was pissing myself laughing the whole way through.. I loved watching this

    • @tiffprendergast
      @tiffprendergast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Is this twilight?

  • @donnamitsuki281
    @donnamitsuki281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17113

    Fun fact: Harry Styles knew about this fanfic AND blocked the author. I think that summarizes his feelings about it.

    • @AmandaTheJedi
      @AmandaTheJedi  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4613

      I can't find confirmation that he has her blocked but I wouldn't be surprised

    • @Zulf85
      @Zulf85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1718

      Just reply to this fucking comment. I dare you. I'm done with life and I'm done with people commenting. I could be literally in a very bad place mentally and physically at any minute now due to my current situation and I don't need fucking 12 year-olds asking the same questions over and over. Like sorry I knew people who were bullied by this guy when he was immature and I upset your feefees.
      I dislike him as I went to the school he went to before he was famous (didn't know him personally since I arrived just after he left but he was a twat), but honestly feel bad for him lmao. Fanfics like this are so creepy

    • @ghostlytea355
      @ghostlytea355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +490

      I feel bad for him

    • @Gauldame
      @Gauldame 3 ปีที่แล้ว +911

      @@AmandaTheJedi if he didn't, any management should do it for him, as it's a security risk.

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +913

      It's hard to blame Harry for this, any sane person in his position would have done the same thing. 😂

  • @somestrangecircus5505
    @somestrangecircus5505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4298

    Why can't we romanticize something that's actually romantic? Like...eating sandwiches in the park. Can we have movies that are just OBSESSED with eating sandwiches in the park instead?

    • @lisasowa1195
      @lisasowa1195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +297

      ... you mean good omens?

    • @haiqal5333
      @haiqal5333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      @@lisasowa1195 that's more like a bromance. A very old bromance.

    • @donnamitsuki281
      @donnamitsuki281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      @@haiqal5333 you have not heard any interviews with Neil Gaiman have you lol

    • @donnamitsuki281
      @donnamitsuki281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +136

      @@lisasowa1195 if you take the whole "stop the end of the world and find the antichrist" out Good Omens is like... An actually good,actually funny,actually sweet romcom

    • @penguinsrbirds2
      @penguinsrbirds2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      @@lisasowa1195 Holy crap I was gonna comment this. This entire trend of "bad boy and goody two-shoes are polar opposites but love each other" reminds me so much of Good Omens, and how Good Omens did it right while so many other romances get it spectacularly wrong. Like I just want to see some good dinner dates and romantic strolls through the park over thousands of years, dammit.

  • @kazoola4309
    @kazoola4309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4993

    Imagine being a 17 year old boy just doing music with other boys when all of a sudden this 25 year old woman started writing a fic about you and making you out into this toxic, abusive, emotionally immature sad bad boi who spends every chapter being sexualized. Honestly, poor Hazza. He truly didn't deserve this 😢

    • @akramtorabzadeh2254
      @akramtorabzadeh2254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +490

      my god, I've never realized how predatory it was!I assumed harry was an adult by the time she wrote this atrocity 😣😣😣😣

    • @carolinegeorge13
      @carolinegeorge13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +276

      Wait, he was 17 when the book was written?? That's so gross🤢

    • @quirkypurple3
      @quirkypurple3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +243

      holy shit i was watching a one direction video and a comment said, direct quote “Ok but in my mind Zayn is registered as a mean, closed off person or like in a gang but I see him being so sweet and loving gentle person can I just say i blame the Wattpad story’s” i immediately took a screenshot because i had never seen such a direct impact of those shitty stories. in a gang????? the harmful stereotypes in these stories are toxic and are poisoning young girls’ brains. it’s also incredibly unfair to put that onto those guys just trying to live their lives. this type of fiction is straight up dangerous because it is mostly read and written by young girls who are romanticizing creepy, abusive behavior from men and they take it seriously.

    • @teteigyu
      @teteigyu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      vik!!!

    • @charlesmartiniii1405
      @charlesmartiniii1405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thats why you ignore pop music and go prog 😇. That way only nerds and music majors know who you are

  • @naivenitara
    @naivenitara 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4937

    "It's only creepy if he's ugly." -lesson of every awful 50 shades of lame formulated fan fic trope

    • @headintheclouds7905
      @headintheclouds7905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      THIS
      Everyone having the hots for 365 days just because Massimo is hot creeped me out, like the actor is hot yes. But if appearance is the only reason you will validate abuse and stuff like that... you are a very unhealthily toxic person. Maybe even the type to say "I would mind if they raped/kidnapped/abused me" just because the character is portrayed as a hot person. I am so sorry for your love life

    • @talynhastime9343
      @talynhastime9343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@headintheclouds7905 If it's a fantasy, it's fine, because no one is getting hurt. I doubt there are women who are so clueless that they'd not hear how stupid they sound if they were unironically saying "I'd only want to be raped if he was hot". And before you say "Oh well fantasies can be taken too far", any fantasy can be taken too far. This is a shitty story that shouldn't be aimed at the demographic that it is, but it's the job of the people around these impressionable girls to teach them why it's bad. Bad art should be called out for what it is, but you can't censor shitty art, otherwise my self-indulgent smut fic would be on the chopping block.

    • @headintheclouds7905
      @headintheclouds7905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@talynhastime9343 fair enough.

    • @Vampybattie
      @Vampybattie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But this is how lot of women feel tho

    • @picturethis4903
      @picturethis4903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      could u not say l*me its a slur

  • @Cheetahgirl_Studios
    @Cheetahgirl_Studios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5293

    Romanticising Abuse: The Movie.

    • @glitterberserker1029
      @glitterberserker1029 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      Can't wait for Romanticising Abuse: The Musical and it's eventual tv spin off

    • @Djinn_Entonic
      @Djinn_Entonic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@glitterberserker1029 and the visual novel or the fanfic of after in a vampire Au that will be called "zenith" and will be published as a book and later as a movie

    • @gelletanas
      @gelletanas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      and what is it with these movies, it's one after another like a conveyor abuse=love, wth?!

    • @Cheetahgirl_Studios
      @Cheetahgirl_Studios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Dei Because in the sad, sad reality we live in abusive bad boys sell apparently. You can thank the 13 year old fangirls who call them their “soft smol edge bois UwU”
      I felt physically sick just writing that.

    • @gelletanas
      @gelletanas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@Cheetahgirl_Studios :D yeah, I felt the cringe giving be chills better than any scary movie. man, it's just sad to think how messed up that is and how some of those 13 year old girls might end up in the abusive relationships because of how movies romanticize crap like this or at least skew their view on reality of such behaviour. thanks for the laugh, tho, didin't think that "UwU" part would be only a cherry on this mountain of ice cream sentence

  • @animebomb
    @animebomb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3188

    Yeah, this is why toxic relationships shouldn't be romanticized.

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      Yes, thank you for addressing this issue. I don't understand WHY when a guy is blatantly abusive jerk, the narrative expects our lead to fall for him?! I think NOT! 🙄

    • @evilbrother6193
      @evilbrother6193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@trinaq Propapply all my female friends LOVE these movies and i was in both of them and OMG how can you Root for them beeing together they have zero chemistry AND they are both really not good for each other

    • @CozieGhosty
      @CozieGhosty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@trinaq They think THIS is the type of bad boy that's irresistible.

    • @syolyte
      @syolyte 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Sadly money won out.

    • @ghostwarrior3878
      @ghostwarrior3878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      *T H A N K Y O U*

  • @katlunascoven7932
    @katlunascoven7932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4247

    Isn't Harry styles the guy constantly reminding the interviewers that consent is so important? the guy constantly uplifting women? How can you be a fan but not pick up any clues of how his personality might be and include that into your fanfic?

    • @Duhgel
      @Duhgel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +519

      The author is "abuse is so cute, let's make a love story out of it" trash. Truly disgusting. I feel bad for all the celebrities who have fanfictions written about them.

    • @MrsSoloRen
      @MrsSoloRen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +359

      Look at literally any HS fanfic and he is god awful. Its actually kinda disturbing because they take someone who is well liked and respected and turn him into a psychotic and abusive bad boy......smh

    • @katlunascoven7932
      @katlunascoven7932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      @@MrsSoloRen this is so weird! I'm such a fangirl for chris evans but when I fantasize I put him as the person he shows himself to be. Like reading and being into philosophy and spiritualism bc that' what I know about him. I thought other ppl would do the same as it makes these daydreams a slight bit more "realistic". I would never write this stuff down though bc it can't feel great to read about yourself...

    • @warlockboy3864
      @warlockboy3864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +231

      Wasn't this written when Harry was 17, and during that time there were two adult women who had like a fling with him. And instead of calling out the women who preyed on a minor they called Harry a "playboy" and a "womanizer" _despite being a minor_

    • @MrsSoloRen
      @MrsSoloRen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      @@katlunascoven7932 ikr I read fanfictions ya know, but like people wrote these stories as OCs but using the celebrities and real people the name and face. Its really strange 😕. They completely change these people's personalities and morals simply to write a toxic romance. Smh

  • @MintyFreshCupcakes
    @MintyFreshCupcakes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2935

    I’m going to write a book where a girl LEAVES a relationship like this, gets therapy and better friends and the book is about how she’s happy and adjusted and the guy is just a sad loser who tries to pull that toxic bullshit but she doesn’t fall for any of it

    • @MissCaraMint
      @MissCaraMint 3 ปีที่แล้ว +226

      And then she runs into him later when she is successful and he is still a loser.

    • @laniedraws6274
      @laniedraws6274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      I actually read a manhwa (korean comic) about something like this. The girl's ex continued to stalk her even after breaking up and dressed up as a girl to get closer to her. They got into this very toxic relationship, but the girl eventually realized how messed up he was and left him.

    • @user-mf2dt3ct5e
      @user-mf2dt3ct5e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@laniedraws6274 omg... OMG... WHY???? I FORGOT ALL ABOUT THAT MANHWA AND NOW YOU REMIND ME OF IT.

    • @tahuraharmain
      @tahuraharmain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@laniedraws6274 manhua name pls?

    • @laniedraws6274
      @laniedraws6274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@tahuraharmain Secret Alliance :)))

  • @thegayghost872
    @thegayghost872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1420

    Every generic YA movie is just "Boring teenage girl gets into an extremely unhealthy relationship with an emotionally stunted man"

    • @gabrielamayorga-kintanar6729
      @gabrielamayorga-kintanar6729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Then there is the grown adult version of that concept that basically is like Fifty Shades of Grey.

    • @gabrielamayorga-kintanar6729
      @gabrielamayorga-kintanar6729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @offended YA stands for young adult. It is usually refers to the genre of fiction that is usually read by preteens and teenagers.

    • @lilly7550
      @lilly7550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Usually foreign...

    • @ticccylikeasniccy4651
      @ticccylikeasniccy4651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      My mom once complained I didn’t read enough “girl books” (it’s been a decade since she said this and I STILL DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS). Anyway, I said pretty much what you said. And added “extra points if the love interest is some sort of paranormal creature”.

    • @sheisaMachine
      @sheisaMachine 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey that’s my life currently

  • @milkmonstrosity
    @milkmonstrosity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3235

    Cheating, abuse, and stalkers, the Holy Trinity of bad romance.

    • @456MrPeople
      @456MrPeople 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      Don’t bring Lady Gaga into this piece of trash

    • @sharonspears-mandeville2369
      @sharonspears-mandeville2369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Saminul Haque _yeah,leave The Mother monster outta this,bub!_

    • @D.m0nio
      @D.m0nio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@456MrPeople You and me could write a bad, cringey, god awful romance~ 🎶

    • @HydraSpectre1138
      @HydraSpectre1138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@sharonspears-mandeville2369 The only Mother Monster to me is Mothra.
      Leave Mothra out of this.

    • @thedeliveryboy1123
      @thedeliveryboy1123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Unholy Trinity

  • @alleycat2297
    @alleycat2297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1840

    "he is nice to me."
    "isn't that just another word for boring?"
    ok

    • @xx___x
      @xx___x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +345

      Red flag number 1

    • @TheNanamariam
      @TheNanamariam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@xx___x absolutely

    • @talynhastime9343
      @talynhastime9343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      I bet if they saw A Streetcar Named Desire when it first came out they would have rooted for Marlon Brando’s character 😬

    • @chodori2041
      @chodori2041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@talynhastime9343 Look at the comments section under any clips from the movie. They still do.

    • @anisahs2110
      @anisahs2110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      People find that a turn off? I start having crushes whenever people are nice to me 😅

  • @maddie-ob7wb
    @maddie-ob7wb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    "He is nice to me"
    "Isn't that another word for boring"
    THERE ARE FEW THINGS IN THIS WORLD THAT I HATE AS MUCH AS THAT LINE.
    The idea that these toxic behaviors are just what make a relationship ✨interesting✨ is so awful and so popular, I hate it

    • @FernandoMartinez-pv1id
      @FernandoMartinez-pv1id 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hardin is even more boring so what the fuck is she talking about.

    • @drishe08
      @drishe08 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      exactly

  • @Allonsy305
    @Allonsy305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3876

    That is the most forced British accent...from an actual British actor. (The fact that the author tried to invite Harry to the premiere....read the room honey. She shouldn't be shocked that he blocked her, if that's true that he did)

    • @teri5585
      @teri5585 3 ปีที่แล้ว +287

      Omg that is so embarrasing💀

    • @trinaq
      @trinaq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +416

      I actually applaud Harry for blocking Todd. This only proves his sanity! Plus, even real Brits would cringe at her obviously put on accent! 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @mxmissy
      @mxmissy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      I have a feeling that he does actually try to make his accent more pronounced. I know I can with my Australian accent. But that's giving the man props.

    • @emilywoods6191
      @emilywoods6191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Oh my gosh yes his accent is so bad and he’s English? In the interviews he dose it’s fine but in the movie it’s so bad

    • @rainbowdust_crochetry
      @rainbowdust_crochetry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Also he filed restraining orders against her

  • @jojo-he5gj
    @jojo-he5gj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2993

    Oh the second movie is WORSE. Girls ya don’t need to date a toxic, emotionally immature, moody bad boi to keep your relationship interesting. I seriously hope every girl who’s watching these movies are aware this kind of stuff shouldn’t be romanticized and are just in it for the cringe. Like I am with Twilight lmaoo I genuinely feel so bad for Harry Styles for being written about this way 😂

    • @devlynlarsen9984
      @devlynlarsen9984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      I had a friend who you'd me that she loved this movie when it came out because it reminded her of the relationship at the time. Thats all you have to know to know it was a HELLA toxic relationship

    • @isaacgray2909
      @isaacgray2909 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      What bothers me is that it's a common mindset for people to think that in stories it's best to have bad boys = interesting and good boys = boring and not interesting. All i'm like "they are only like that is because you people are bad writers!".

    • @insertnamehere4932
      @insertnamehere4932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      @@isaacgray2909 It's weird, because it's authors assuming that seeing something traumatic In your life turns you into an edgy immature and unstable fuckboi lol. As if countless perfectly normal and nice people haven't been exposed to / experienced anything fucked up in their lives.

    • @ep3989
      @ep3989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Honestly kinda same about the boys. Tessa is not exactly the ideal woman to say the least and she doesn't even have to be, but I wish she had a real personality and not a notlikeothergirlsanility.

    • @marimarianations9355
      @marimarianations9355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Sadly no. I have an acquaintance who loves the films and books.

  • @shybluechild
    @shybluechild 3 ปีที่แล้ว +645

    Why is being nice boring????! This is why girls end up in toxic relationship

    • @raven6949
      @raven6949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      THIS! 👏🏽
      Exactly, which is just sad honestly

    • @annabellefrances5917
      @annabellefrances5917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      !!!!!

    • @snqoqo
      @snqoqo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      That sentence is a big freakin red flag!!

    • @benjaminmadrigalperez9010
      @benjaminmadrigalperez9010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because People like fantasies. Just like men "want" sex all the time but don't want "whores".

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sometimes girls want to have fun and actually go places the only thing her know what ever did was hang out at her house and watch movies all the time that's the one thing they did all thrilled a relationship and it could get boring

  • @FaithLavinia
    @FaithLavinia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +836

    Don't * write * fanfiction * about * real * people *
    Almost all celebrities hate it and it sets up for some very concerning behaviour in some people.

    • @funtimeLJ6789
      @funtimeLJ6789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I didn't even know that there was fanfiction of real people. That seems a little weird.

    • @d.m.8180
      @d.m.8180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Well there are so many fan fiction on BTS too... some are nice and many are messed up worse than this...

    • @invisibleink1145
      @invisibleink1145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I once saw a post where someone actually tried to defend their collection of explicit real people fanfic and it was all so disturbing I just couldn't even bring myself to reply, because there is no helping those people.

    • @BooksandBuns
      @BooksandBuns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Don't read it either, even to make fun of it. You're giving exposure to these sickos, & they don't need it

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@invisibleink1145 Even when the real people call out the crazy RP shipping the shippers throw tantrums and say that the people being uncomfortable is "ruining their fun."

  • @neutralman9124
    @neutralman9124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4618

    "I'm not British, I can't do it". Hardin IS British and can't do it, it's fine Amanda lol.

    • @tinniesealjiji
      @tinniesealjiji 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Honestly can't listen ( I thought it was annoying)

    • @mbasakosani8386
      @mbasakosani8386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +160

      I think they forced him to adjust his regular English accent to the one in the movie ,I've heard him speak and the difference can be heard

    • @neutralman9124
      @neutralman9124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@mbasakosani8386 It's a stupid choice lol

    • @anniedangerface
      @anniedangerface 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      @@mbasakosani8386 yeah, like im an american but i absolutely can't do other accents from my own country. if i try to do a texan accent, for example, i sound like an absolute idiot. so i feel like they assumed he didn't need accent training because he's british disregarding the fact that not everyone from a single country knows how to do all the accents from their country??

    • @neutralman9124
      @neutralman9124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@anniedangerface It's a bad choice on the director/producers side, but his performance is bad either way.

  • @stephw.7874
    @stephw.7874 3 ปีที่แล้ว +771

    What I don’t understand is how is Hardin supposed to be Harry Styles!?? Harry Styles is a sweet and caring guy, and is respectful towards women. Hardin is an alcoholic who likes to yell and break things. Poor Harry didn’t deserve this toxic love interest to be modeled after him. Harry Styles is the real victim here.

    • @jhart1127
      @jhart1127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I dont know man, its pretend. Its shit but its pretend shit.

    • @BooksandBuns
      @BooksandBuns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@jhart1127 real people aren't pretend

    • @ussinussinongawd516
      @ussinussinongawd516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jhart1127 it's defamation but Harry styles can handle it tbh

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's why it's called fan fiction you could literally write about whatever you want there's even a fan fiction where one direction are serial killers and they can't up a girl And of course we know that's not true because it's fiction

  • @toriland79
    @toriland79 3 ปีที่แล้ว +831

    Why is it always the worst fanfic with all the wrong kinds of representation that gets all this love from the mainstream? Published books and movies. I can think of way better and well deserving fics that deserve it.

    • @ahardworker2154
      @ahardworker2154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Same here most of them aren't creepy like this abomination

    • @charlesmartiniii1405
      @charlesmartiniii1405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I mean its true for anything. Look at the music scene

    • @Snazzy16
      @Snazzy16 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Ikr. Like as a Wattpad reader I don't read this stuff it's just toxic and weird. I can think of a bunch more fanfics that are way more deserving to be a movie than after.

    • @PineappleLiar
      @PineappleLiar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Most good fanfiction actually works within the fandom it was written for, so attempting to make it into an actual book means making a lot of copyright holders okay with a lot of things very quickly.
      What we have here is a fanfiction so far removed from it’s initial story that all you need is a name swap and no one is the wiser. I will admit I’m also just not a fan of any Modern AU fanfics anyways so this take is a little biased.

    • @oranges7706
      @oranges7706 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PineappleLiar I agree, some of the best fanfics I've read have been deeply rooted in the work. It's also worth considering that, by their nature, most fanfictions, even modern AUs, assume you have some knowledge of the characters, their relationships, and their pasts beforehand, so there might be difficulty getting people not in the fandom to relate the character(s), even if names are changed and stuff

  • @danielm.berube3256
    @danielm.berube3256 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2087

    To be fair, Hentai is more straightforward than real people fan fiction.

    • @cultureandhistorynerd6739
      @cultureandhistorynerd6739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +175

      lol true, at least hentai eventually gets to it after only a few minutes of "plot"

    • @CursedCatTruffa
      @CursedCatTruffa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      And somehow less cringy

    • @hp4843
      @hp4843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      Nah. There's actually good fanfic out there that go into breaking fictional characters down to their bare bones. In the author's perspective, of course. Fanfic isn't all sexual and written by teens. You get mystery and adventure ones, too.
      It's really diverse, and even fully fledged writers partake; it's a fun exercise. However, I don't know about real people fanfics. They kinda seem too cringy to try. That, and I can't imagine how they'd feel about it.🙈

    • @Alias_Anybody
      @Alias_Anybody 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@hp4843
      Most H is also absolutely unremarkable, somewhere between "Cute date with crush gone sexual" and "Bored housewife and the landlord".
      If H and fanfiction have one thing in common than it's the fact that the weird and disturbing stuff just gets far more attention.

    • @hp4843
      @hp4843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @Alias Anybody Sadly, you're right. But it's only because, generally, people would rather focus on the bad parts of an entity than the good. It's more entertaining to watch someone pick apart a god awful piece of teenage... uh... literature?😂 I love Amanda, but I kinda wish one day maybe she'd enlighten her viewers on the good parts of fan creations instead of the bad. I feel really bad for writers who put their heart and soul into something they loved and have it mocked because of a stereotype. There's countless stories of relationships dealing with abuse -- parental abuse and neglect -- and characters finding themselves after the whole process, and honestly, when i was a teenager, it made me feel less alone. People only write to propagate a message or escape their reality. I would rather focus on why girls this young are romantising such abusive relationships, instead of mocking them. Speaks volumes of how their actual lives must be. 😕
      Never mind that, I only wish one day, people would focus on some good aspects of how broad the fanfiction world is. Of really, any piece of media. Just like there's good and bad to be found in every corner of the internet.

  • @EmmaCreatively
    @EmmaCreatively 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2447

    Two things:
    1. I truly do NOT understand why "the-worth-of-a-woman-is-only-defined-by-her-virginal-purity-but-also-let's-fetishize-her-first-time-being-with-a-domestic-abuser-who-manipulates-and-gaslights-his-way-into-her-heart-also-her-innocence-changes-him-from-regular-stalker-to-ultimate-stalker-but-it's-because-his-love-is-so-strong-so-clearly-this-is-peak-romance" is a genre of fiction. Like. WHY. I don't. I. What.
    2. I am so surprised you did not sample Jo Jo's immaculate classic "Leave (GET OUT)" at 18:10.

    • @piagebot2943
      @piagebot2943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Straight couples amirite

    • @peonylarkspur645
      @peonylarkspur645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Lol I have to pitch my senior project in a few months and I’m highkey doing it on your first point

    • @EmmaCreatively
      @EmmaCreatively 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@peonylarkspur645 Please do! Good luck!

    • @EmmaCreatively
      @EmmaCreatively 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@piagebot2943 SO right!

    • @peonylarkspur645
      @peonylarkspur645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@EmmaCreatively thank you! I'll do my best haha

  • @JurzGarz
    @JurzGarz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +762

    It seems like poor Noah did nothing wrong. Yeah, in the movie he gets angry for her for going to a party and drinking, but that’s hardly red flag behavior. Underage drinking, especially as a college freshman at a party with older students, is arguably pretty irresponsible behavior. At worst he’s a bit overprotective, which isn’t surprising for a high school kid. Certainly not comparable to Hardin’s behavior.

    • @eloasain4520
      @eloasain4520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

      Noah deserves better

    • @joshuawright4198
      @joshuawright4198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

      Yeah shes just treating him like shit and we're supposed to root for her for no real reason

    • @raven6949
      @raven6949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      I felt so bad for him really 😭. In most of these movies the good guy is portrayed as boring/plain and gets treated badly then dumped for no reason, smh

    • @strawberryfox8819
      @strawberryfox8819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yeah Noah really did not deserve all the shit she put him through

    • @ussinussinongawd516
      @ussinussinongawd516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@strawberryfox8819 yeah like all he did was get mad at her once

  • @ellalala._
    @ellalala._ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    *"We are so different, yet we're the same. You told me once that I bring out the worst in you. Well, you bring out the best in me."*
    Let that sink in.
    This man-child will keep this girl hostage, just because he believes she "makes him better." At the expense of hurting her with his nonsensical, immature attitude. In what universe is this okay? Like, seriously, I can't believe a literary agent read this BS and thought "Hell yeah! Let's dump this crap on teens so they can romanticize abuse and toxicity!" Seriously Tessa and Hardin are the worst characters I've ever seen, I can't understand how a normal person will read this stupidity and think that this is the kind of ideal relationship they want for themselves. If I was Anna Todd, I'd be anything but proud of this being my "pièce de résistance."

    • @achair650
      @achair650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      What is worse is...it is so blatantly disgusted as a "romantic hallmark card" or some shit like that....like, by the time all this abuse has desensitized you, this just seems like another one-liner that is supposed to be "lol so cute and emo rawr qwq" and it makes my stomach churn, because this may be the scariest line in the entire movie. It gets to Christian-Ana lengths of toxicity and co-dependency.
      And with that, the audience will not bat an eye nor question it, they might even use it in one of their relationships. Maybe put it on a poster on the wall, the scariest part: no one will notice, it will only manifest throughout the relationship(s).
      *let that sink in*

  • @Rosula_D
    @Rosula_D 3 ปีที่แล้ว +608

    If I were Harry Styles, I would consider this lady an anti-fan. How can you claim to be someone's fan and imagine them being such a horrible person?

    • @supercalime
      @supercalime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      I feel like there’s a lot of internalized misogyny in this author. Clearly she thinks that this kind of toxic relationship is the peak of romance, that’s why she inserts herself into it. I don’t even think she realizes how bad this kind of portrayal is. I hope she understand people’s criticism and has some introspection.

    • @47ratsinahoodie
      @47ratsinahoodie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@supercalime I doubt it. If she was allegedly 24 when she wrote this, there might not be any hope, especially now that it's a movie and book series.

    • @Rosula_D
      @Rosula_D 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@supercalime I think that's a problem for quite a lot of female authors. Even in MM/BL fiction, the amount of female authors who write 99% of their few female characters as horrible stereotypes is huge. What I worry about is the fact that this kind of writing is mostly rewarded by the industry: Grey, 365 days, the kissing booth, this trash. It feels like every "novel adaptation" is pushing the same problematic examples.

    • @whatthehellisthis
      @whatthehellisthis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      harry styles apparently blocked anna todd on twitter

    • @thatidentitythief8962
      @thatidentitythief8962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@whatthehellisthis 👏AS👏HE👏SHOULD👏

  • @violetdreams1772
    @violetdreams1772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2296

    Harden's character is more bland than Bella Swan

    • @ShadowKamehameha32
      @ShadowKamehameha32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +230

      Hardens Character: I'm complex because I say "Fuck" in almost every sentence I speak

    • @doubleknot8598
      @doubleknot8598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      Don't disrespect Bella like that 😭 She started having some character in Breaking Dawn (book)

    • @justastudent1423
      @justastudent1423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@doubleknot8598 too little too late

    • @alleycat2297
      @alleycat2297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      like unsalted, undercooked pasta

    • @violetdreams1772
      @violetdreams1772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@alleycat2297 exactly

  • @rachael5300
    @rachael5300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +336

    I would never have guessed the guy who plays Harry/Hardin is actually British
    Idk if Anna Todd was involved in the production, but I can imagine her beating him with the script, saying "Not! British! Enough! How would the REAL Harry say it?"

    • @theab3957
      @theab3957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Lol that sounds perfect 🤣

  • @ladybirdg5658
    @ladybirdg5658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +382

    "She has dyed hair and VAPES. It's the end of the World." I can't 😂

  • @hibeech3305
    @hibeech3305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1989

    Can we talk about the fact that this was originally a sexual fanfiction about harry styles that was 16-17 when the author (anna todd) was 24. she made a sexual fanfiction about a minor... ew 😀

    • @ww.DuzaFizz
      @ww.DuzaFizz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +350

      @Mary Anne KO That doesn't make it any less gross and creepy 😭

    • @hibeech3305
      @hibeech3305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +152

      he was still a minor 😀

    • @lisasowa1195
      @lisasowa1195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +177

      @Mary Anne KO I’m 22 and I would never sleep with a 17 yo bc they are children.

    • @katepublik7678
      @katepublik7678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +186

      @Mary Anne KO it’s still an adult writing about a minor. We weren’t talking abt the relationship ages

    • @TheBlushBunny
      @TheBlushBunny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      wow, I didn't know that part. They published this and made it into a movie knowing this? smh

  • @aleece4
    @aleece4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3450

    My first boyfriend was super jealous and had a temper like this (fortunately he never directed it at me). Literally every time I met someone from his life they told me “he’s so much better since he met you. You’re so good for him.” I was only 19, but smart enough to recognize that as a red flag. I told him “you need to be better for yourself, not me. Someday the infatuation with me will wear off and I won’t be a good enough reason anymore. I refuse to be responsible for your character.” I thought he took it well until I heard that he had a mental breakdown and tried to BURN DOWN HIS DORM BUILDING. He was tried for arson but the court declared him mentally incompetent and ordered him to be hospitalized instead. I’m so glad I listened to my gut and got out of that relationship when I did. He was a ticking time bomb...

    • @Duhgel
      @Duhgel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +420

      Damn, I'm proud of you! Finally an actual sane, mentally strong and smart person. This is rare! Bravo, it's really sad that most people don't even know this thing is problematic and even more sad that they never follow their gut feeling! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @fairysolee5030
      @fairysolee5030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +165

      You’re so strong, I feel so proud right now🥺

    • @dawnnimal6633
      @dawnnimal6633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      Good for you sweetie. Always listen to your gut. And warning signs

    • @maureenirma2828
      @maureenirma2828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      You did the right thing for yourself! I'm really happy for you. If it was in a book, you would have been so happy and proud to hear you were starting to "fix him"...

    • @kumatorahaltmanndreemurr
      @kumatorahaltmanndreemurr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Jesus fucking christ that guy sounds like a lot. I'm glad you got out of that situation before it got dangerous for you.

  • @ckind2098
    @ckind2098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    it's a small dumb detail, but I've lived in Seattle for about 12 years and there's basically zero publishing scene here. So, both Tessa and whats-her-face having a career goal of being in publishing specifically in Seattle is a bit like aspiring to be a marine biologist in Arizona

  • @elliieebit
    @elliieebit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    The romanticization of toxic relationships is exhausting.

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +701

    Netflix REALLY must have an obsession with movies which romanticise the relationship between a bland, goodie two shoes girl, and an abusive, bad boy "with a heart of gold", which was originally based of a Wattpad story. 🙄😤🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @AmandaTheJedi
      @AmandaTheJedi  3 ปีที่แล้ว +240

      This wasn't even Netflix this got a full theatrical release produced with Wattpad's entertainment sector

    • @dylandiana9053
      @dylandiana9053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      im not surprised you thought this was a netflix project like it's bad enough to be one

    • @bffr825
      @bffr825 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      you lost, babygurl?

    • @whatthehellisthis
      @whatthehellisthis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@bffr825 nooooo

    • @piagebot2943
      @piagebot2943 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AmandaTheJedi wait so they have an entertainment department for their entertainment

  • @ohmiasi2538
    @ohmiasi2538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +992

    It's absolutely insane that Hardin's actor is actually British. It sounds like an American kid faking a British accent in their high school play

    • @randomwerewolf1099
      @randomwerewolf1099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      He's probably still faking an accent - England has a lot of accents just like any other country (more than most actually) and the director probably just assumed he'd be fine because, y'know, he's British and can do a "British" (vaguely cockney) accent.

    • @aboveasphodel7936
      @aboveasphodel7936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🚗🍦.

    • @da.toeiesss2838
      @da.toeiesss2838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      People say he was doing a american accent but no it was british

    • @Dauerglotzer123
      @Dauerglotzer123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Yeahh its the fakest real accent I ever heard. He's from the London area so his accent should sound a lot like that. Can't believe he's actually Ralf Finnes nephew (why he got to play young voldermort)

    • @tomlawal7991
      @tomlawal7991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@randomwerewolf1099 yeah, his accent his more road because he grew up in estates but America only requires one British accent - a rendition of our queen Elizabeth

  • @geekgirl_luv4262
    @geekgirl_luv4262 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Can someone PLEASE explain to romance writers that there is a difference between “bad boy” and “abusive dickhead”

    • @FernandoMartinez-pv1id
      @FernandoMartinez-pv1id 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bad boy doesn't play by society's rules but usually means well and doesn't have to be a dick. Abusive dickhead deserves to rot in hell.

  • @Amazatastic
    @Amazatastic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    reading this fanfic made me genuinely worry about the author bc the way she wrote textbook emotional abuse so perfectly and the victims thoughts like "I'm learning how to walk on eggshells around him" but then ROMANTISICED IT????? I was like please don't tell me you're writing from experience but as someone that had experienced emotional abuse myself I was like how can this not be from experience

  • @naimaahmed9730
    @naimaahmed9730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1909

    I just don’t get in which universe Hardin is attractive i mean physically he is but the fake accent from the actual British person enrages me, he’s needy, whiny and just plain terrible. He’s feels so entitled to Tessa’s love especially in the second one after betraying her how is all this attractive? Please explain it too me

    • @AmandaTheJedi
      @AmandaTheJedi  3 ปีที่แล้ว +497

      Wait he's really British so that's not a fake accent

    • @SD-zz4ov
      @SD-zz4ov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +405

      @@AmandaTheJedi and yet he manages to sound like they held gun to his head and told him to imitate the queen. a true talent.

    • @donnamitsuki281
      @donnamitsuki281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +219

      @@AmandaTheJedi "your British accent is horrible" "but... I am British..."
      Its like if RDJ went to an Iron Man/Tony Stark best costume competition and lost

    • @ESE33
      @ESE33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      I don't think the actor portraying Hardin is attractive at all. He looks like he weighs 80 pounds soaking wet xD

    • @littlecookie22
      @littlecookie22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      @@AmandaTheJedi yeah, he played little Voldemort in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince..Also, he‘s Ralph Fiennes‘ nephew as far as I know (:

  • @bananaboatcharlie
    @bananaboatcharlie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +515

    After I Threw Up

    • @cassiopeia2829
      @cassiopeia2829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      👌🏻feel the same way

    • @Cheetahgirl_Studios
      @Cheetahgirl_Studios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      After I Bleached My Brain Of This Absolute Car Wreck Of A “Romance” Book That Perpetuates the Ever Cursed Notion That Abusive Relationships Are Sexy And Cool When In Reality These Kinds Of Fanfics Make Me Want To Puke My Guts Out And Delete Wattpad From Existence.

    • @haiqal5333
      @haiqal5333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Cheetahgirl_Studios you ok there bud?.....

    • @Sasu123456789x1
      @Sasu123456789x1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ooohhh same

    • @self-eternalisedperson5635
      @self-eternalisedperson5635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That reference is from a youtuber called Alex Meyers when he reviewed that shitty film 😂

  • @adriannaa545
    @adriannaa545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    "A man who is rude and intolerable being made into a romantic hero? It's ridiculous. If Elizabeth had any sense, she would have told him to fuck off from the beginning."
    Wow!!! I may be a bit of a Literature nerd here, but that is the most atrocious evaluation of Mr. Darcy, Eliza, and the entire book I have ever seen! Who wrote that!? First of all, Eliza DID tell Mr. Darcy to essentially fuck off. Eliza only tolerated him for the sake of her sister Jane, because Jane was falling in love with Mr. Bingley, Darcy's best friend.
    So much for being a literature nerd, and, if they are going to comment on classics of Jane Austen, at least do her justice!
    Additionally, the ENTIRE point of that book was to demonstrate how first appearances and pride can become all consuming. For instance, Mr. Wickham is described as charming and handsome, but is actually a gambling arse. And Mr. Darcy (who is described as cold, arrogant, and ill tempted by all of Meryton) was actually an extreme introvert who attempted to fix his more hardened nature as soon as Eliza points it out. The reason Darcy was portrayed so horribly is because the narrative revolves around Eliza heavily, so the reader perceives Darcy is a pretty similar light as Eliza. HOWEVER with the climatic part of the novel, the book does a 180 and essentially shows how Eliza horribly evaluated Darcy the ENTIRE time.
    Harden, Harden, Harden, you are an idiot and as shallow as the kid who sparknotes and thinks they read the book.

    • @ninab.4540
      @ninab.4540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      And she was 24 when she wrote that stuff. Not exactly first impression thoughts

    • @geekgirl_luv4262
      @geekgirl_luv4262 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      THANK YOU. I love Pride & Prejudice and I was so angry at how this movie misrepresented it.

  • @revinaque1342
    @revinaque1342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    "Some people just need therapy." LOVED THIS, so true

  • @destinyapostasy8230
    @destinyapostasy8230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +746

    The focus these stories have on virginity and purity is so 🤮

    • @Ariel_ButNotTheMermaid
      @Ariel_ButNotTheMermaid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Probably because it's so rare . Nothing wrong with it . To obsess over it, yes. But for it to be important to someone , no. Not everyone wants to date whores, what can I say

    • @angelwings967
      @angelwings967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

      @@Ariel_ButNotTheMermaid Do you call men whores for having sex before marriage?

    • @lunnaris474
      @lunnaris474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      @@Ariel_ButNotTheMermaid the misogyny in this reply is outstanding

    • @nozhena
      @nozhena 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      @@Ariel_ButNotTheMermaid so, you think you're better than other women or what? Who are you to be calling them whores?
      You must be so alone and miserable.
      Small advice to not be such a sad douche anymore: it's your personality that keeps people away from you.

    • @starsiadraws
      @starsiadraws 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

      Sex does not make a woman dirty. Having "virginity", which is entirely a social construct, does not make a woman pure.

  • @amandaford8622
    @amandaford8622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +978

    I wish writers like Anna Todd would stop romanticizing abuse and toxic relationships because it’s terrible and leaves an impressionable view on teens who thinks this is love when it’s not. Also the fact that Todd wrote this when Harry Styles was a minor at the time is... pretty creepy.

    • @ZM-jq6dj
      @ZM-jq6dj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      i think she wrote it in 2013 so he would have been 19

    • @mirandabutton2794
      @mirandabutton2794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Although she wrote this at 24 She was married at 18 so she is probably very naive

    • @matchatneko4956
      @matchatneko4956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mirandabutton2794 24 and 19 not that bad, is not like she dating him (like she can...LOL) think all those older man with younger women who are 20 years age gap..........

    • @mirandabutton2794
      @mirandabutton2794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@matchatneko4956 I wasn’t talking about the age gap. I was talking about how she got married at 18 which just seems to me like she is naive

    • @coffeepowered6033
      @coffeepowered6033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's still fucking gross, but age of consent in the UK is 16 so it's not as stigmatised.
      Not sure where the authors from though.

  • @sionwebb1955
    @sionwebb1955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    The sweet romance where literally every single character is unlikable or just a generally terrible human being. Her mum: a massive twat, Her: a cheat and frustratingly easy to manipulate, Noah: overbearing while simultaneously painfully weak and naive, all the friends/ roommate: huge serial killer level twats, and to put the cherry on top of it all Hardin: emotionally manipulative, emotionally abusive, controlling, violent, arrogant, cruel, dishonest, weak.

  • @Flufferz626
    @Flufferz626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    "This confused my mother more than when I tried to explain hentai to her."
    Quote of the year 2020 for your channel.
    And yes I am still very confused on how real life people can be considered fanfiction.

  • @loops8274
    @loops8274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +894

    I hate when the stories about toxic people aren't even interesting. There's nothing edgy about it, just immature and annoying

    • @FiddlebirdBlue
      @FiddlebirdBlue 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Much like the reality of dating a toxic person! There are these weird doldrums in the cycle of abuse where I just of idled feeling too worn out and gray and apathetic to end it (or thinking I 'couldn't' end it for financial or quarantine reasons) but also just thinking to myself what a tiresome, childish tool he could be and often was.
      It's kind of like 2020. You wouldn't think something so terrible could also be so relentlessly dull and annoying.

    • @laniedraws6274
      @laniedraws6274 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Fr, and the fact that my sister, aunt and cousin all loved this film. I wanted to explain how their relationship was toxic, but they'd probably just shut me off and say I'm being annoying. It hurts to see people I know romanticize such a toxic relationship.

    • @lm3341
      @lm3341 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      it was the screaming at each other at parties in front of all people for me to realize i'm a grown woman watching a teenager movie. it's literally a teenager movie. in my opinion this should be a high school movie

  • @brittbereading3450
    @brittbereading3450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +543

    My sister somehow thinks After, 50 shades and 365 days are "amazing and realistic and beautifully written love stories" and calls me sick for using valid arguments to explain to her why these relationships are toxic af... for her good health (and mine) i hope she never gets a partner...

    • @AmandaTheJedi
      @AmandaTheJedi  3 ปีที่แล้ว +184

      Awww, she's gonna have a bad time

    • @c.c.l.9139
      @c.c.l.9139 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      If she likes them as fiction, it's probably just what gets her going. If she likes that kinda thing seriously in real life, that's not good.

    • @brittbereading3450
      @brittbereading3450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

      @@c.c.l.9139 I hope she means as fiction. But when she says things like: "i am looking for a guy just like Christian Grey", i get a lil concerned

    • @anib8863
      @anib8863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Ask her if she'd still think it's cute if the love interests looked like Danny Devito.

    • @47ratsinahoodie
      @47ratsinahoodie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@c.c.l.9139 Yeah. When teens can read and watch this kind of stuff and understand that it's not healthy, I'm fine. But when I hear, "I want someone like that," or, "He's so good to her!" or, "Love is love (even with an abusive jerk)," or, "She's fixing him, that's so cute!" it worries me. Unfortunately, some teens don't seem to have yet made that distinction.

  • @cursedchirren9866
    @cursedchirren9866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    "Are they in Alabama?" This had me WHEEZING 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Ultraquickly
    @Ultraquickly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    "And this somehow managed to get a PG 13 rating.."
    THAT TOOK ME OUT

  • @AerinMoriarty
    @AerinMoriarty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +588

    I'm so over doormat female "protagonists"

    • @thomaskole9881
      @thomaskole9881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Can we agree to just speak plainly and call it what it is, namely a blatant self-insert to serve as a vessel for poorly understood and/or sexually repressed feelings?
      I can understand that these stories resonate with teens (god I feel old writing that) to a certain extent, but they deserve better stories with characters that aren't flat as a board and revolving around a single trope. To each their own I guess, but writing is a craft and when the author's skill is lacking, it shows.

    • @47ratsinahoodie
      @47ratsinahoodie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Same. People have unique personalities (or at least, most people do)! As a writer, it's criminal to omit that from your characters.

    • @cordeliajackson8615
      @cordeliajackson8615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@47ratsinahoodie
      I know! As a writer, people are so interesting. Some of my favorite characters were characters inspired by the people I’ve met.

    • @cordeliajackson8615
      @cordeliajackson8615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@thomaskole9881
      Yes absolutely. I’m tired of people writing from trope and stereotypes when perfectly interesting people and with character quirks are RIGHT THERE.

    • @Sasu123456789x1
      @Sasu123456789x1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Legit I hate it!

  • @romaramirez5578
    @romaramirez5578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +640

    A one direction fanfic.
    Netflix: I smell the money from a mile away.

    • @lisasowa1195
      @lisasowa1195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Got a full theatrical release though lol

    • @availanila
      @availanila 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's not Netflix...

    • @maelstrom57
      @maelstrom57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So you got a Harry Styles fanfic for me?

    • @lilj362
      @lilj362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maelstrom57 ,
      Yes sir l do

  • @ZenKrio
    @ZenKrio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    • @cleo958
      @cleo958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nah it's pretty accurate

    • @markborok4481
      @markborok4481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@cleo958 Darcy also won Elizabeth over by doing the right thing wrt Wickham and Lydia, saving the Bennett family honor. He showed his good character. In a modern romance aimed at impressionable teen girls, I'll bet he would have won her over by somehow showing his all-consuming passion for her.

    • @drishe08
      @drishe08 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I only watched the movie and Mr Darcy is not a bad guy. He just did that what is best for his friend and He is not toxic at all
      I just hate the movies who compare the main couple to Elizabeth and Darcy....why the f would they do that!!!!!

    • @ZenKrio
      @ZenKrio 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @drithishetty8049 the mini series is leagues better than the movie. You also just get like 3x the content due to the format the story is presented this way. I'd also argue that the actors were better, not that Kira Knightly is a bad actress, but compare her to Colin Firth who played Darcy in the mimi series and its a whole different thing.
      I watched the show shortly after making this post 2 years ago lol, and yah, the classic still holds up, you should really look into it. And yah, it was really the same thing as the movie but told better, he found Jane alright, but not good enough for his best friend, and he had distaste for basically the whole Bennett family save for Elizabeth due to their immaturity (especially their mother iirc). Iirc correctly as well, he saw that Jane made his best friend happy, and decided on his own to encourage him to go back to Jane after this, though Elizabeth turning him down HARD did have a hand in that, it likely wouldn't have made a man like Darcy change as a person. Though it was also a thing that one of the best friends (you can tell I forget his name lol) sisters wanted him to marry Darcys sister. So that likely played a slight role, though Darcy himself seemed really indifferent to that idea from what I could tell lol.
      It also doesn't help that in the movie, you could never buy that Kira Knightly as Elizabeth was less attractive than Jane. In the series and the story, it's strongly shown that Jane is the best of all the girls in looks and is second only to Elzabeth in intellect, who is implied to be as smart as she is because she's not quite as attractive as Jane. I forger if the other 3 girls were ever portrayed as more attractive, I just remember than being thirsty lol, and that very thing coming off as immature to Darcy and even their Mother.

    • @drishe08
      @drishe08 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the recommendation…I will watch it

  • @chrysantheme5377
    @chrysantheme5377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    8:38 This guy clearly doesn't know anything about Mr. Darcy and his personality. Looks like he didn't even read the book, because P&P it's not about "Falling in love for an asshole".
    [SPOILER ALERT FROM P&P]
    Darcy is a good man, he makes mistakes, but he learns from it and overcomes his pride. He NEVER manipulated Lizzy or forced her into doing something she didn't wanted to do. Actually, he helps her A LOT.
    Elizabeth is smart and she's a decent woman. But she has her prejudices towards Darcy. She doesn't want to marry for convenience, she wants to marry for love, a healthy and beautiful love.
    Pride and Prejudice is a story about love, human behaviour and personal growth. Both Elizabeth and Darcy are not perfect, but they overcome their prejudices and pride and they showed how decent and good persons they are. It's a great story wich, I think, has a beautiful idea of love, not like After wich portrays a terrible and toxic idea of it.
    (Sorry if there's a mistake. English is not my first language)

    • @Dipanjanakusary
      @Dipanjanakusary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thank you for saying this when Lizzie rejected mr Darcy he went back no persuasion no stalking no death threat no threatening her about money when he proposed the second he clearly says he expects nothing one word for her will shut this forever no pressure no nothing he just asked her about her feelings and that's why we adore mr Darcy I'm surprised by this absolute gal of that rotten man child talking about him bitch you wish you're half the man mr Darcy had been

    • @fulichak6499
      @fulichak6499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Just saying, your English is spectacular

    • @gabby3036
      @gabby3036 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also came here to say your English is excellent - I wouldn't have known you weren't a native speaker without you saying so, I just assumed any errors were typos.

  • @mddxs
    @mddxs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +881

    As a Harry fan: I hate that.
    As a human being: I also hate that.
    And: girl, wait until you watch the second one.........

    • @mddxs
      @mddxs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @Studio Autio no!!!! I meant it's even worse hahahahah

    • @evilbrother6193
      @evilbrother6193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@mddxs Tessa the girl that had the chance to have a decent and nice boyfriend but still choose the abuser

    • @Cheetahgirl_Studios
      @Cheetahgirl_Studios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Evil Brother No offence, but Tessa is blind as hell. I would’ve picked Trevor over Hardin in a heartbeat.

    • @noxart2410
      @noxart2410 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Evil Brother she can choose between Hardin and no Hardin. But just because someone’s better on paper doesn’t mean you’ll be attracted to him or develop feelings for him. So she can’t just pick or choose another guy.

    • @achair650
      @achair650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There's a.... *barfs* second one?........

  • @delilahdahlia247
    @delilahdahlia247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +606

    There's so many toxic relationships in these teen romances, and people love them. I'm don't understand why they like it so much

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Because most of the fans of this type of stuff are either teen girls who haven't been in relationships or middle aged women who've been in really bad relationships and think this is how they normally go because of that.

    • @misscrackwood
      @misscrackwood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Because dating the mysterious dark troubled guy and bringing him on the good side and showing him what real love is, is like the ultimate teen fantasy x) I can't blame them, I've been there too...

    • @Bane_Amesta
      @Bane_Amesta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      And because this people have no idea that healthy relationships can be interesting too

    • @Xehanort10
      @Xehanort10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@misscrackwood The ones who keep it as a fantasy are OK. But the ones who get with awful real life guys and trying to change them sometimes get themselves killed.

    • @misscrackwood
      @misscrackwood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Xehanort10 I know and it's terrible, and movies and books like this certainly doesn't help T__T as a parent of two daughters I hope I can teach them to see the difference between a healthy relationship and a bad one, and that fantasy and fiction are what they are.

  • @dee_is_tired
    @dee_is_tired 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    "the 4 piece novel series that's being churned out into 4 feature films"
    when I tell you I CHOKED
    4 BOOKS?
    4 FEATURE FILMS??
    what. the. fuck.

    • @Astrocam88
      @Astrocam88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There's actually five books, because Anna Todd also wrote "Before", which is After from Hardin and the other side characer's points of view. She then move on to a sequel about Tessa's best friend, Landon, and I think there are like three books in that series.

    • @dee_is_tired
      @dee_is_tired 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Astrocam88 i hate this timeline

    • @theab3957
      @theab3957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dee_is_tired This is the darkest time-line

  • @julphines
    @julphines 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    What ultimately annoys me most about After, 365, 50 Shades, etc is THERE IS BETTER FAN FICTION THAT ACTUALLY DESERVES TO BE PUBLISHED.

    • @strawberry_silk3364
      @strawberry_silk3364 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *COUGH* *COUGH* golden crowns stained with ink *COUGH* *COUGH*

    • @ohshit4860
      @ohshit4860 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      SOMETHING TELLING BETWEEN THEN AND NOW TOO

  • @Sam-on5jf
    @Sam-on5jf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +520

    last time i was this early wattpad was something everyone made fun of and not a template for hollywood movies

    • @lisasowa1195
      @lisasowa1195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      The Hollywooddudes Heard- us when we asked for bookbased movies. They chose the wrong books though

    • @Ashley-Lopez
      @Ashley-Lopez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      So many good books yet that is what they chose😔

    • @haiqal5333
      @haiqal5333 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Ashley-Lopez it sells, just look at twilight or the other stupid endless YA romance novels

    • @sneakysnake7695
      @sneakysnake7695 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I post copypastas on it

    • @C0LLID3D
      @C0LLID3D 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why can't they just go on A03 and pluck litterally any story from there? Most I've read are better than anything on Wattpad.

  • @a.l.michael6240
    @a.l.michael6240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    Coming from someone who was in a mentally and verbally abusive relationship a year and a half ago, this sh*t is not cute. No amount of love will ever erase the hurt. Being in a relationship shouldn't make you cry and fill you with anxiety and fear. I really do hate movies/books like this and i hate even more that they become this popular.

    • @DoodleDoo2
      @DoodleDoo2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      BuT Who CaReS ItS JuSt A FanTaSy And A KinK!1!1!1

  • @ruponti8188
    @ruponti8188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    "it's university, people go through shit. That's how you learn"
    Couldn't agree more 😂

  • @Dreigonix
    @Dreigonix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +192

    RPS should be illegal. People, you do realize that it’s basically character assassination and the people involved can sue for misrepresentation, right?

    • @allisonavery7273
      @allisonavery7273 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rps?

    • @Dreigonix
      @Dreigonix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@allisonavery7273 Real Person Slash- basically fanfics about shipping real people. And I say, do whatever you want with fictional characters, but as soon as you start doing that to real people, it becomes creepy and invasive.

    • @allisonavery7273
      @allisonavery7273 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dreigonix yeah, I can see it

    • @BooksandBuns
      @BooksandBuns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It's RPF: Real Person Fiction. Slash doesn't mean shipping, it specifically means *gay* shipping. & RPF isn't about gay couples only, unfortunately

    • @zaramikazuki8374
      @zaramikazuki8374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My take is a bit more friendly - that it's fine to write RPF if everyone being written about consents to the fic type that is being written. If everyone is into it, then hey - power to them and hope they have fun. And in fact, I did talk to someone who wrote for a very niche fandom where a group of people actually did give permission for wholesome smut fics (they did not consent to abusive trash, naturally, and wanted to read stuff before it went out). Didn't think it'd actually happen, but cool for them. But that's like crazy rare - almost always, it's done without permission or consent of any kind, and that's where the creepy line is crossed and I feel bad for the people involved.

  • @dolphinmilkshakes6749
    @dolphinmilkshakes6749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +396

    My favorite part of this movie was AFTER the credits rolled....
    I’ll show myself out.

    • @naivenitara
      @naivenitara 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Underrated comment! Bloody brilliant 👏 😄

    • @niamin793
      @niamin793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No!! Come back!!

    • @madhuaiyar27
      @madhuaiyar27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Take me with you!

    • @soccerruben1
      @soccerruben1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      HA!

    • @thestarsystem8144
      @thestarsystem8144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, wait, don't go..

  • @missdoirpy2870
    @missdoirpy2870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +294

    Man, fanfiction and headcanons for real people is super creepy.

    • @KajsaWanderer
      @KajsaWanderer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Yeah, RPF or real person fanfic is pretty gross and generally cringey. Toxic fans eat it up and shit it out without regard for how it might affect the featured celebrity irl. It stems from the entitled attitude many people develop in fan spaces, which is an unfortunate aspect of fandom culture.

    • @iwannalaugh2964
      @iwannalaugh2964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think it was even a thing with the Beatles which is 👀👀?

    • @whatthehellisthis
      @whatthehellisthis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      poor harry

    • @Tirnel_S
      @Tirnel_S 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100,000x % agree

  • @madsb.8097
    @madsb.8097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I missed the boat for the 1D fandom, but from what I can tell Harry is actually a very respectful and sweet lad? What fans are doing this boy so dirty 😂

  • @alexanderinoa7850
    @alexanderinoa7850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    This disgraces us TRUE fanfiction authors, smh my head

    • @AJ-cj1hw
      @AJ-cj1hw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What's your wattpad account? And what do you write?

    • @allisonavery7273
      @allisonavery7273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ikr

    • @Cheetahgirl_Studios
      @Cheetahgirl_Studios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I know! Not ALL of us write this kind of thing! Some of us just like writing more in-depth versions of our favourite piece of media and having fun with the characters by putting them into interesting situations as a “what if” scenario!

    • @cheyenneblack817
      @cheyenneblack817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I know I've read good fanfics.

    • @nadillasakinah950
      @nadillasakinah950 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      This is why I don’t write real life people!
      I stick to fictional characters. Besides, my adventure Mortal Kombat fanfic is much more interesting than this

  • @groofay
    @groofay 3 ปีที่แล้ว +627

    Revised book titles:
    "After"
    "A Bit Later Than After"
    "Even A Bit Further Later Than the After Before What Came After After"
    "A Bit Before After, By Which I Mean the First After"

    • @thomasraines1396
      @thomasraines1396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Those sound like the titles for the Friday movie sequels.

    • @mioafox
      @mioafox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      In German, After means anus. Works too, I guess. So no matter how far After lies behind, shit's still shit :D

    • @kathrynvincent1563
      @kathrynvincent1563 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Honestly if a book series has those titles I’d think it was way funnier than the bland sad boi faire

    • @Weather-more
      @Weather-more 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In my country the movies are called after passion and after truth

    • @lisasowa1195
      @lisasowa1195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ‚After‘
      ‚After after‘
      ‚After the day after that‘
      ‚After the day after that day‘

  • @thomasraines1396
    @thomasraines1396 3 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    Your genuine confusion with the “are they in Alabama?” line was hilarious

  • @disneydisney1490
    @disneydisney1490 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Bruh since Twilight every single fan fiction has an obsession with the male or female lead reading Wuthering Heights

    • @ninab.4540
      @ninab.4540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or Phanthom of the Opera, like Fifty Shades

    • @strawberry_silk3364
      @strawberry_silk3364 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ninab.4540 Don't disrespect my boy Erik and compare him to whatever the FUCK Hardin is

    • @ultron374
      @ultron374 ปีที่แล้ว

      That trend has to stop

  • @Author.Noelle.Alexandria
    @Author.Noelle.Alexandria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    Jane Austen wrote social satire and I wish people who don't know this would stop dragging her works into these bullshit "romances." It's like people thinking Romeo and Juliet is a romance, or that Hamlet's "To be or not to be" is a grand speech about what he wants to do with his life when they're a tragedy about the expectations of forced marriage and feuding, and about contemplating suicide. If you don't get it, if your extent of learning about these things is reading a goddamned fan fiction and then a synopsis, stop thinking you know shit about them.

    • @isabelabraga9111
      @isabelabraga9111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Also worth pointing out is when people romanticize Wuthering Heights saying it is "a love story" when Cathy and Heathcliff's relationship is ultra problematic and they are both horrible people.

    • @ekinersoy3002
      @ekinersoy3002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@isabelabraga9111 As an English lit graduate I love Wuthering Heights but I agree that their relationship was chaotic and toxic af. I still remember Heathcliff saying “Catherine Earnshaw, may you not rest as long as I am living”

    • @coolkiddo3110
      @coolkiddo3110 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      frrr when they were like "Lizzy shouldve told Darcy to fuck off" like... She literally did?? Did you not READ the book before criticizing it??

  • @ESE33
    @ESE33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +636

    The second movie just came out with the added news that there will be three more sequels to it, and I WANT TO DIE. These books romanticize ABUSE and toxicity. Young teenagers idolize this and grow up to expect this kind of behavior to represent love? I don't think so.
    (Also, Anna Todd never explicitly put herself in the fanfiction- the main character's name was always "Tessa", but Tessa was short, curvier, and had blonde hair like the author.)

    • @47ratsinahoodie
      @47ratsinahoodie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      My sister was watching The Kissing Booth (After and TKB are basically carbon copies of one another) and she was ENJOYING IT and said she didn't understand why people had issues with the relationship like WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL. WATTPAD IS POISONING TEENS WITH THIS BULLSHIT CONTENT.

    • @youngroyals4350
      @youngroyals4350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      After we collided was just unnecessary

    • @angiesdoseofkpop1142
      @angiesdoseofkpop1142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      not only that, but it is about a REAL PERSON and portrays him in that way. Very gross.

    • @cordeliajackson8615
      @cordeliajackson8615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      You know what really pissed me off?
      “He’s nice to me.”
      “So you’re saying he’s boring.”
      No. Just no.
      This reminds me of my mother. She used to tell me that moms who were nice to their kids and treated them like human beings with emotions and value were bad moms and weren’t raising their kids right. Like no.

    • @47ratsinahoodie
      @47ratsinahoodie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@cordeliajackson8615 That line pissed me off, too.

  • @juls7403
    @juls7403 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1045

    The blood on the sheets part makes me worry about the author tbh
    And more so every young and/or never sexually active person reading it, even if they recognize everything else is fucked up (hopefully but unfortunately not always) the myth that you need to bleed your first time with piv is so pervasive this only adds to it.

    • @fuzzyapple
      @fuzzyapple 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      This! plus she could've just been on her period and leaked during the night

    • @ajlahasanbasic
      @ajlahasanbasic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

      @@fuzzyapple Honestly, that would've been a better plottwist. Hardin and Tessa plotting to sell the story to mess with his friends or smth

    • @valpet4944
      @valpet4944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@ajlahasanbasic I would read a story about two friends or lovers colluding together to win a bet imposed by a group of losers like the ones in After.

    • @obsessivefangirl5055
      @obsessivefangirl5055 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Right! as a woman, you should know that not everyone is born with a hymen, or an intact hymen that hasn't been broken down by other non-sexual physical activities or a hymen that just stretches and doesn't bleed at all. Its really sad that in the 21st century people still believe the old myth of someone bleeding when they lose their virginity.

    • @redvenice7253
      @redvenice7253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      i heard that the author of the book defended that??? like she tried to justify it

  • @limespots
    @limespots 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It's fics like these that motivate me enough to want to write something to sort of say "Yeah these types of stories aren't okay because they're glorifying abuse", and is why I have decided to finally start writing one.

  • @mickb5854
    @mickb5854 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    “Are they in Alabama?” Sigh, Roll Tide.

  • @3minutes374
    @3minutes374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    I feel BLESSED that I didn’t know that this fanfiction existed until TH-camrs started talking about this movie.

  • @alyssapinon9670
    @alyssapinon9670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +459

    Guys if you want to read a subversion of the “I can fix him trope” read the six of crows series. My shipper heart was sad but at the same time I was really happy and surprised that they had a character say something along the lines of “look I’m not your therapist. I can’t fix you. You need to sort out your issues by yourself before we can enter a relationship.” Seeing that in YA novels is as rare as a unicorn sighting
    Edit: it also shows really healthy friendships between women and gay relationships. Sadly I’d have to say that the former is even more rare in YA (and media in general) than the latter

    • @47ratsinahoodie
      @47ratsinahoodie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      This is completely unrelated but can someone please explain this concept to the parts of the Miraculous fandom that think Marinette and Adrien should get together right now? Mari is literally at stalker levels of obsessive and Adrien has some issues regarding his father. They need to fix themselves before they can be together. A relationship is not something someone should use to step on the other person to get themselves to a better place (and it would be even worse if the person getting stepped on allows and is okay with it).

    • @bessieburnet9816
      @bessieburnet9816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@47ratsinahoodie Oh my God! Yes, thank you!! Marinette is an obsessed, creepy stalker. Even going as far as to steal Adrien's phone. And Adrien isn't innocent either. As Chat Noir, he is soooooo self entitled to his "Lady", getting all sulky when she rejects him, continuing to persue her when she makes it clear she isn't interested, and literally says "We're made for each other and you just can't see it". How creepy is that coming from someone who keeps flirting with you despite your discomfort? And then Chat Blanc dares to depict a relationship between the two built on the fact Adrien found out she was Ladybug, and specifically for that, became an absolute power duo of a relationship with no problems? When in reality they aren't even friends, just loving idols and barely being able to have a productive conversation?! What? If Miraculous doesn't fix this in Season 4, I'm out.

    • @47ratsinahoodie
      @47ratsinahoodie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@bessieburnet9816 Fr and with Kagami and Luka, they're decent people. Not much of a personality for Luka but I'm not opposed to Adrigami and Lukanette (well, Mari still has to work on herself for him, too). Miraculous has a lot to fix and I don't doubt Astruc is the root of most of the problems considering Mari is his prized character and it's the world that needs to change.

    • @alyssapinon9670
      @alyssapinon9670 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @ichaelis fr. I didn’t want to give away too much for people who haven’t read/finished six of crows but I’m assume since you read the first book that you know which characters my comment was referring to

    • @gucciasalways
      @gucciasalways 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@47ratsinahoodie This is why I prefer MariChat. Need them to chill the fuck out with their obsessions with each other in their alternate forms and actually get to know each other and develop a healthy and mature relationship first. Considering Marinette doesn’t like Cat Noir and Chat’s neutral to her, it’d make way more sense imo. I doubt it’ll happen tho cause the writers have lowkey gone off the rails-

  • @ravyn2817
    @ravyn2817 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    What I don’t understand is why no one ever calls the cops on Hardin? Like, legit.

  • @fallofcamelot
    @fallofcamelot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    “And they start playing truth or dare”
    Of course they do...

  • @lita313
    @lita313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +498

    You can tell that the person who wrote "After" wasn't college-age and they probably didn't know anyone who went to college. Because no one in college cares about whose a virgin or not. We care about passing and will curse people out who like as dumbasses and waste your time and money.
    Edit: Looked up information and saw Anna Todd was 24 when she wrote this. College pairs freshmen with freshman roommates. Also, maybe I'm just being judgy but considering that she's been married since age 18, (thanks Wiki), I'm gonna say that her lack of experience reminds me of E.L James with the whole fantasy but not actually doing the research. Will that last comment come back to bite me since I'm writing some stories? YUP!
    2nd edit: When I say people who act like dumbasses, I'm meaning the idiots who interrupt your class by being loud, rude and cursing out the professor and they don't want to be there. I'm not talking about people who are freshmen and finding themselves, I don't fucking care what you do. As long as you don't harm another person. In this case, the dude did the old "make a bet" and "virgin bet" tropes and I hated it.

    • @candidlyopinionated19
      @candidlyopinionated19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I heard she was 24...

    • @youngroyals4350
      @youngroyals4350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Anna was 24 writing a fan fiction about a 19 yr, kinda weird if you ask me.

    • @peonylarkspur645
      @peonylarkspur645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not always, I have freshman friends who had a sophomore roommate. It’s pretty uncommon tho

    • @abbycolby4543
      @abbycolby4543 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Freshman don't ways necessarily have freshman roommates. When I was a freshman my roommate was a sophomore

    • @sleepysera
      @sleepysera 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That's definitely not something that can be generalized. Maybe in your college everyone was level-headed, and that's great, but the majority of college kids I know only cared about passing during finals month. The majority of the semester, partying, romance and expanding your horizon with all sorts of new experiences was the focus.
      Which...honestly, I see no problem with? It's your first time away from home, where you get to make your own life decisions, where you get to try "adult" stuff like drinking and whatnot. Get it out of your system, get to know yourself and your preferences and limits. That's also part of growing up, and it's in a place that is still a kind of protected environment compared to being a full-time working adult where any mistake can ruin your entire existence.

  • @randomisonline
    @randomisonline 3 ปีที่แล้ว +594

    I'll be honest here and say I write fanfiction. The difference between me and the writer of After is I stick to fictional characters. I find writing fanfiction about real people creepy, even if the person in question never finds out about the story.

    • @thetuftedpuffin1025
      @thetuftedpuffin1025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      I’m a fic writer too and I 100% agree with you. Fanfic about real people is just creepy.

    • @ZM-jq6dj
      @ZM-jq6dj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      same. i wrote supernatural fanfic as a teenager and it creeped me out when people would write jared/jensen or misha/jensen fics. like... they are real people, and it's creepy to write them into situations they would never want to be involved in. if you're really a "fan" of theirs, you wouldn't do that. stick to the fictional characters...

    • @Cheetahgirl_Studios
      @Cheetahgirl_Studios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Ditto. I’ve always found RPF to be so... _gross?_ I mean, if you’re into that kind of thing, then more power to you. But that’s why I hated Septiplier and every other Real Person x Real Person ship. It kinda feels like you’re dehumanising the people in the ship and twisting their real life personalities to what YOU want it to be. I’m not directly addressing you btw: whenever I use the term “you” I’m referring to the people who ship real people. I’ve always found it shady on a moral level. It’s just never sat right with me.

    • @ooshwiggity
      @ooshwiggity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I wrote a fanfic about meeting a content creator. We started talking because a pigeon shat on their hat. We had a good conversation and i gave them some wet wipes. Then we walked away and never spoke or thought about each other again. It obviously wasn't a great fanfic, but sometimes the desire for a conversation with another human in these trying times gets a bit strong.

    • @pixiestxNyomouf
      @pixiestxNyomouf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Also I like to point out how fucked up that shit is. Like when they have that groping, choking and sexual shit RIGHT after they just meet these people like he creepy shit. I get that it's books but I can't help but think "this shit wouldn't be cute irl"

  • @stardoogalaxie9314
    @stardoogalaxie9314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    When I watched After, My sister and I legit felt the chemistry between the Vape Girl and Main Character and we spent the entire movie speculating whether Vape Girl was Bi or a Lesbian and we were right!!! When Vape Girl first meets Tessa, she looks her up and down and through the acting you can see the cogs turning in Vape Girl's head. Now I cry at the idea of the and They were Roommates version of After.

    • @markborok4481
      @markborok4481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      So write a fanfic based on this fanfic. It's fanfics all the way down from this point.

  • @rameji-chan737
    @rameji-chan737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    These types of stories are so problematic. When I first started dating a guy who was super emotionally manipulative, I thought it was normal that I was anxious all the time. Every day was just like in those books, you have super intense "highs" but also the worst lows ever. It took me 9 months to understand I was mistaking my anxiety and fears of meeting him on a bad day were not normal and that I shouldn't be with this person that could turn every positive thing in my life into his own personal disaster. But yeah, I read a lot of these types of romances in my younger years and that made the situation last so much longer than it should have.

  • @Azetchki
    @Azetchki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    Wait... So it's a fanfic about being in an abusive relationship with a member of One Direction?

    • @sharonspears-mandeville2369
      @sharonspears-mandeville2369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yes. Yes,it is. *_And they said that Styles' a cinnamon roll (as the youngin's say it,right?),as so I've heard-I've heard,right?_*

  • @soulrecords857
    @soulrecords857 3 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    This “story” takes place at my college...oh god.
    They definitely didn’t film on location I can tell you that. Central looks nothing like that.

    • @shirley444
      @shirley444 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because it’s not filmed at WCU. It’s filmed in Georgia on a prop set

    • @penguinsrbirds2
      @penguinsrbirds2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Wait...I thought there wasn't such a place as Washington Central University, because I grew up in Washington...I figured she swapped up the name with Central Washington University to create a fictional uni in some vague place in the PNW.

    • @rebeccajesse4604
      @rebeccajesse4604 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol when I head that uni name I was like "no! they didn't!" and yeah, central looks nothing like that.

  • @pandorarose3
    @pandorarose3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I unfortunately put myself through this book series, after a friend and I saw the trailer and wanted to see the movie, but it was only at random theaters. I don't mean to say fan fiction writers can't write. Some can weave a great story. But it angers me when people like this, EL James can get major book deals for their crap writing while other authors whom are trying to break into the writing field find ourselves having a HUGELY hard time when compared.

  • @august6316
    @august6316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    i'm a cringelord too and all, but i could never withstand the humiliation of officially publishing a wattpad fic under my name and letting it become a movie.

  • @lucarionme
    @lucarionme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Emotional Dead Weight the Movie

  • @starrsmith3810
    @starrsmith3810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Harry Styles literally blocked the author lmao

    • @brkli1485
      @brkli1485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Can't blame him lol

    • @kuveshennaidoo2779
      @kuveshennaidoo2779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fair enough she made him seem like a real dick

    • @starrsmith3810
      @starrsmith3810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kuveshennaidoo2779 yep. I would have blocked the person too.

  • @nekograce7914
    @nekograce7914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Can we give Selma Blair a round of applause for filming this with an aggressive form of MS. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 She also looks amazing as a blond.

  • @ceilinh6004
    @ceilinh6004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    If this book has a prequel, and it isn't called "Before" don't tell me. I don't want to know. I need to keep living in my happy place. K, thanks.

    • @stabadaisy2
      @stabadaisy2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A bit late but the prequel is called “Before” 😂

    • @chinmayeejoshi2692
      @chinmayeejoshi2692 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not a prequel 😂 before movies are amazing

    • @stabadaisy2
      @stabadaisy2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chinmayeejoshi2692 The After prequel book is called 'Before'

    • @chinmayeejoshi2692
      @chinmayeejoshi2692 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh sorry I did not know that😅

  • @BAMikeyD
    @BAMikeyD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    With how focused they were on the condom thing I thought the twist was gonna be HIV/AIDS! Wow was I wrong.

    • @47ratsinahoodie
      @47ratsinahoodie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      That would have honestly been one million times more interesting than the whole entire movie.

  • @sidh1135
    @sidh1135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    i honestly don't get how wattpad still tries to portray itself as this serious writing community. yeah there's some genuinely great works on there but the vast majority is just stuff like this lmao

    • @47ratsinahoodie
      @47ratsinahoodie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I was debating with this one person about how Wattpad shouldn't be the goal for authors. It's a decent platform to refine your skills (that is, if people actually get to read your book after shoveling through all the bland After carbon copies) but Wattpad publishing isn't much of an achievement. They claimed that Wattpad is as good a publisher as any and I laughed _so hard._

    • @jjj4068
      @jjj4068 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Honestly it’s strange how many people use Wattpad as a serious writing platform. I just use it to practice my writing skills/get constructive criticism and feedback. Aka it’s not serious, it’s practice

    • @Bane_Amesta
      @Bane_Amesta 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I honestly use wattpad only to publish my fic in spanish and sort of a backup, but I cannot be bothered to even think of reading anything it has to offer lol
      and since is a videogame fanfic, i have to rely on the fans' opinions, they have my fic in a high rank, but considering the rest of stories available... not sure if I should be proud or not :p

    • @cordeliajackson8615
      @cordeliajackson8615 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      As a fanfic writer (not on wattpad actually, on ao3) I do it for fun. And for practice and feedback. Like, it’s fanfic, nobody’s taking it seriously.

    • @lisasowa1195
      @lisasowa1195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Tbh I think the main problem is that they frame this picture of themselves around fanfictions with changes names. People don’t mainly read ffs for the plot. They do it for the ships. It’s weird that (not just) Wattpad tries to translate fanfictions into real books.

  • @nelsie3635
    @nelsie3635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    " And he does end up giving her some mouse click action to give her first OH" My god, this made me laugh longer than it should have

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's actually only based on his appearance she said I took Harry styles and created a whole new character so unlike him that's why it's called fanfiction

  • @alicevillamayor2938
    @alicevillamayor2938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I feel so bad for Harry being this based on him..

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not based on Harry it's based on his appearance only she said I took his appearance and created a whole new character so unlike him that's what fan fiction is all about there are so many one direction fan fictions where 1 direction are literally opposite of themselves there is 1 where there are serial killers

  • @neutralman9124
    @neutralman9124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +444

    Voldemort's nephew is the worst actor to ever be on camera in a studio film. 13 Reason Why's sister is pretty good. After and After We Collided are awful, awful films. Also, the sequels are called After We Fell and... After Ever Happy...which doesn't make any sense.

    • @palaquesharma9904
      @palaquesharma9904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      That's young Voldy actually lol

    • @lisasowa1195
      @lisasowa1195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      .....After Ever happy... eye 👁👄👁

    • @whatthehellisthis
      @whatthehellisthis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      they managed to get dylan sprouse to be in the sequel💀

    • @neutralman9124
      @neutralman9124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@lisasowa1195 It might be the worst title for a movie ever lol

    • @Karaetify
      @Karaetify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Hahahah xd after ever happy? Are you serious? Lmao what kind of grammar is that 😂

  • @thecardinalsin7
    @thecardinalsin7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +375

    off topic but here's a fun fact: the longest piece of english literature is a Loud House fanfiction currently standing at over 7 million words, the second longest piece is a Smash Bros fanfiction at over 4 million words :)

    • @cherswrld
      @cherswrld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      u gotta be pulling my leg

    • @lita313
      @lita313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Wait, isn't smash bros TH-camrs? Or a game?

    • @SpiderPotterFan
      @SpiderPotterFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Wait, the Smash fanfiction has been surpassed already? That shit was started in the Brawl days!

    • @wespapes2054
      @wespapes2054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well, that sounds fun to read.

    • @thedevilgoose2482
      @thedevilgoose2482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I gotta know what it's called.

  • @pegah_di
    @pegah_di 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Fun fact: the actor who plays Hardin in this movie is the one who played the young Tom Riddle in Harry Potter.

    • @oddode7796
      @oddode7796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh poor boy what happened to him!!!

    • @ussinussinongawd516
      @ussinussinongawd516 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@oddode7796 nothing. He got his money. Good for him.

    • @oddode7796
      @oddode7796 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ussinussinongawd516 well that fu**ed him up bad, maybe they should take it away.

    • @gsilva9887
      @gsilva9887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course he is, just as evil

    • @christina93d5
      @christina93d5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oddode7796 Nothing happens to him hes a good actor who's playing a part in the movie there's nothing wrong with that hes a great actor in a great person

  • @shadowjade458
    @shadowjade458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The similarities between this and my life are a little weird; including my parents threatening to withdraw financial support for college when I told them I was planning on moving in with my bf (we had been together a year at that point). But we always called each other out and owned up to toxic behaviours, supported one another as we worked to grow and become better people. A partner can be amazing support but they cant "fix" you, you have to fix yourself. We've been together 6yrs now and are happily married and still support each other as we continue to work on ourselves to be better people.

  • @lauradecarvalho9703
    @lauradecarvalho9703 3 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Its triggering knowing that these "psychopath-lover" stories keep getting sequels but I Am Not Okay With This gets cancelled... Ffs 😭😭😭

    • @BooksandBuns
      @BooksandBuns 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's not triggering, stop misusing actual medical terms

    • @strawberry_silk3364
      @strawberry_silk3364 ปีที่แล้ว

      Meanwhile stuff like Anne with an E only gets 4 seasons

  • @senpaijecho1933
    @senpaijecho1933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    "you should break up with your fake high school bf", see that scott pilgrim reference there...

    • @naivenitara
      @naivenitara 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't it fantastic? :D

    • @sharonspears-mandeville2369
      @sharonspears-mandeville2369 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Senpai Jecho _Stacy pilgrim strikes again!_

    • @gregcourtney751
      @gregcourtney751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      At least Scott was supposed to be an asshole and his relationship with knives is called out and doesn't work out in either movie or comic.

  • @bluejayjuly7927
    @bluejayjuly7927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I still remember the first ever fanfiction I read was a harry styles lemon. I still cringe to this day 😓

  • @sadrabbit53
    @sadrabbit53 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Isn't the professor giving Tessa Hardin's essay against FERPA laws? This is set in the USA, right?