The thing is its hard to find a fitter like you and Dan, If you go into your local AG branch they often just ask handicap and use the manufacturers guff to sell you a product. These type of videos are enlightening and give people the confidence to know if someone is forcing a sell or actually trying to sell them something to improve there game.
Anyone thinking of getting fitted for clubs should watch this. I've always been wary of going for a fitting because I have heard lads complaining that it didn't help them! But having listened to your explanation I'm thinking they may have been looking for something that fitting couldn't give them. Maybe what they needed was a lesson and a better understanding of how they strike the ball. This video has given me good insight and I'll give fitting serious consideration now. Very enjoyable channel.
Never know till you go and get fitted. I fully expected to go buy a set of JPX 919 Forged and walked out with the Tours. Looked better, felt better and the numbers were better for what I wanted.
Just bought a new set of irons Mizuno JPX921 Tour because my handicap has come down since my last set. Don’t really need extra distance. Loved the look and feel of the tour model. Extra playability allowing me to shape my shits into the greens. JPX 921 forged in the 6, 5 & 4I for extra long iron performance. Love the thinner top line. Love the lack of oddest. Love the brushed/ satin finished Waiting to come out of Covid19 lockdown play a round with them. My old set were JPX850 and have served me well.
Enjoyed this. First custom fit I had (years ago) fitted me to my swing at the time which was delivering a high handle so lies at 3' up. Once I'd improved my swing they were unusable. Wish the fitter had mentioned that at the time.
Great video for consumers mark! I'd love to get fit one day but I'm that guy that gets out once a month if I'm lucky, 60 hours a week and 2 kids under 3 is not all that conducive to leisure time!
Moved to blades (MB714) a couple of years ago from muscle cavity and have found both accuracy and distance control has improved. When swinging well I find approaches are generally closer to target. Also know exactly where I’ve hit it on the club face.
I suggest you watch the TXG video about grip size and different grips. It matters I tell you. It’s the only thing that connects you to the so no reason to just neglect it as “just do what you like”.
Mate that’s the best advice I’ve ever heard and to all after just being fitted for a set of iron is to follow marks advice 💯 % A truely good fitted will find you the right fit for you as I found for me in my Callaway apex irons and I never had them as a brand or iron id ever consider but I never looked at the back of the iron I was hitting so I just let the feel and numbers do the talking. Now just to decide what grips to get! 🤔
Great video, and great tips. I got fitted a few weeks ago, and went through three shops just to find a fitter personable/knowledgable enough for me to trust and deal with.
Spot on comments, great video, looking at changing my clubs so I improve???? I need to look at how I play first, my slice or top shot won’t disappear with a new club. Great advice, driver guide was very informative as well. As a foot note, glad to see Locky playing with a driver with a proper shaft ( might be a bit yellow but it’s very shiny!!!!)
"when buying clubs, no-one should be telling you to stop.. ".... I´ll tell the mrs you said that next time she asks why I have 3 sets already and still looking at shiny new ones ;) great tips brah! :)
Fitter here: 15:14 this is very very very good advice. My other main tip is to focus on what performance will lower your scores, and not what will help your ego. Here is a few key examples. If you already hit your 7 iron 185 in the air you don't need to hit it 200, that will just give you bigger gaps in your short irons, and it will not make you play 18 holes in less shots. Distance consistency and control is more important then the furthest shot going as far as possible. You are way better off being able to hit a 7 iron consistently 175, then sometimes 215, and sometimes 230, even if 230 looks cooler at the range. The other big thing is misshit management, which misshit will punish you less on the course. If you have a 2 way miss that will cost you strokes, you are better off having a 1 way miss This is especially true for drivers, you have no idea how many people have hit their furthest drive of the day and thought wow this setup must me great, when it only went far because they hit a super low spin hook that launched high and went 75 yards offline. The example with this for irons is the same, on a sim hitting a sweeping hook with 4300 spin 200 yards with your 7 iron is a great shot, on the course it is not going to stop on the green, and might just be lost left. When being fit don't try and hit it as far as possible, try and hit the ball like you would on the course. Edit : 19:00 this is also very very very good advice, please listen to what mark says here, it makes my life, and job easier, and will make it easier for me or your fitter to find the best clubs for you.
Really good advice, I'm having lessons now which I hope will improve me as a player before purchasing new set of irons. Good advice though and good tips on what you should ask as a player!!👍👍
Thanks Mark. Great video as usual. I would also advise people not to get intoxicated by hitting a game improvement iron a mile. I swapped out my CB’s for the TAylormade M1’s because I could carry the 6 iron 200 vs 175 with the CB’s. Worst mistake ever. I just swapped back to regular lofts and bought the Apex Pro’s which are stunning. Cheers 🍻
I tried several sets and narrowed my search to the Srixon 785 and the Mizuno 919 Tour. Ended up going with the Srixon as the worst of my shots were a little bit better while the flushed shots behaved the same. I got a little higher spin with the Mizunos but I'm a high spin player anyway (~6800 7i with the Srixons, ~7050 Mizuno). Love them so far...
Quality watch that was...it's so tempting to buy new every year and i have bn a culprit of this, only this year I've regripped my irons instead of buying this year's bells and whistles 👍🏌️♂️
Great video. I switched from Callaway rogue x to the 2018 x forged after watching your videos on de-plaining. The rogue x were absolutely ridiculous. I love the Callaway x forged irons 5-pw, Wedges are Callaway md4 52,56,60,but my driver is Ts3!!!😉😉😁
I just received a gift from the heavens, brand new Titleist 718 Ap2’s and SM7 wedges. Before this I was hitting a set of Nike Slingshot H/L’s lol. Can’t wait to see the difference in technology and feel!!!
I agree with what u said. I had a fitting for the first time last year and didn't know what to expect. They give around an hour for a fitting on irons and especially being my first time it wasn't long enough wish I would of paid for an extra hour. Don't get me wrong I love my clubs but I wonder if I had more time if I would have mix up my set weather adding hybrids, hybrids or work on gapping. But either way it was an awesome experience getting fitted
Hi Mark, I own precisely these 2 sets of irons AP1 718 and MB 716. I prefer the MBs for precision and feel even if the AP1s are powerfull and ridiculously forgiving.
Very interesting Mark, have just booked myself into the Wilson factory in Irvine to get new irons and hybrids. Was a little worried about how I would perform at fitting but now feeling a little more relaxed about it, thanks
Good point about lessons. I remember having a fitting where I was hitting with toe up. Every time they tried a flatter club I unconsciously altered my swing so it still hit with toe up. It clearly was me not the club.
I bought into Mark’s ideas about fitting when he got his daughter a set of Titleist AP2 irons, with the right shaft. She looks like a good little player who benefits from Mark’s logic..ie. more loft is good. You need to add a Tele to your guitar wall, in my humble opinion!
Funny this is posted because I was literally looking at the Ben Hogan site for a new set of irons although...................... I already bought a set a few months back but don’t like the thickness they have. I’m not a great player but I do love a thin and slim profile. A less chunky or clunky look at address instills confidence
Great video Mark everything about club fitting explained in Layman's Terms.I was fitted last month with Titleist AP1. My lie angle on the board was varying between standard and 1 degree flat? (Toe up). Advised me to stay with standard lie. Irons going dare I say it very good,
you two don’t think larger grips can help golfers who have excess face rotation (uncontrollable hooks) or smaller diameter for players who keep losing ball to the right?
I am a lefty and I have gamed with various mizuno irons for 30 years. I really want to treat myself to a set of miuras now they have a couple of dedicated leftie options. I have no idea where I could get fitted so it's going to be an order online job with the specs I normally play. What are your thoughts and is that too big a risk?
Will definitely be getting a custom fit on irons this year. Bought Callaway x2hot irons off the rack a few years ago & couldn’t keep a ball on the course. Having previously gamed titleist 990s for over a decade....
Great advice Mark, I've been thinking of changing my clubs for a while now and you've given me plenty of food for thought. By the way I reckon that Jaguar now needs a Mustang for company.
So many great ideas that seem difficult to apply, at least here in the States. Most places I have seen, sell an iron fitting, a wedge fitting, hybrids and fairways are there own category, and they don’t really want to intermix the categories without changing an exorbitant amount of money. I have no problem spending money for a fit, but sometimes they definitely act like making money is more important than what is right for the customer.
too bloody late, they turned up on Friday :-) Got fitted at Titleist National fitting centre at St Ives, Cambridge. went there with AP2 712's and left with AP2's 718's, ok they were 1/2 inch longer, 2 degrees flat, standard loft, unlike my old AP2's which were bought for £170 from the pro shop 4 years ago :-)
100% guys shaft is a timing device that can alter strike location , grips defiantly affect shots if incorrect sizing , it’s all about feel and how it looks is important ,it can give confidence or leave you with no confidence 👍🏻
Thanks Mark!! I feel like this video empowers me. Gives me confidence as to what I, as a beginner, should be looking at and asking for. I currently have an internal battle of, well I’m not good enough to get new clubs or I bet new clubs would help with... I have no idea if any of that is true. I’m a beginner.
Hi Jamie Knowles go to a fitting with your own 7 iron to compare against. Try a few different clubs and various shaft options and see if there’s one set that helps you hit the ball straighter, longer, and you could afford, then you can consider if you should change. One last thing in most cases some lessons with a good coach would improve your game far more than any new clubs will. Good luck 👍
Thanks for the reply Mark, I watched this video tonight which is a Month after I got, what I call a partial fitting from Puetz Golf in Seattle ,USA while I was visiting family. I live on the fantastic Vancouver Island, British Columbia. Future home of Prince Harry, I think. I found that the JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro was my preferred iron with 110 pro taper shafts, and triple wrap standard grips. Waiting impatiently for them to arrive. I am a 9-11 handycap based on weekly physical abuse. ( I scuba dive, Teach Chinese Kenpo Karate, Dirt Bike, Downhill Ski, and Run Kick boxing classes) . This is mostly all weekly, skiing is a winter add, Oh and yes I golf as much as I can, 2 rounds this last weekend.in between snow falls.LOL. Sorry, to get to the point, I wish I watched this video first, as I'm sure I may not be standard loft and standard lie. I have JPX 850 irons now with 130 gram stiff shafts.and at 49 years old I feel the 130 gram is a bit heavy? Thanks for the continued videos, I have watched you from here since 2013 when I started golfing for the first time. Cheers.
Mark, txg will often use lie angle to help with shot shape on a fit. Ie if a player’s lie angle is zero but they draw the ball, fix the lie so that it’s 4 toe down to reduce this draw. Do you agree with this or would you prefer to work on the technique issue causing this overdraw? Very interesting video by the by.
My #1 Iron buying tip. Demo the 3 iron, if you can hit that well, you'll have no problem with the rest of the set. That's the rule I've used since 1992. And probably why I Suck!
Haha loving that. Shredfield lol. Sure it would be the dreary single note solos from the boys in Exeter (Chris Martin and co).....or maybe not. Maybe he'll treat us to some John Mayor
👨🦲Uncle Fester 😂🤣 Thanks for that. Now it will probably be the only part of the video that will actually stick in my head. I hope Uncle Fester's mum isn't too sad 🙍
I've noticed that you have eleven dislikes on this video. How the hell can you dislikes such valuable information. Great video, thanks for your efforts. ( love Dan's instruction gadget).
Anthony Craig I had a irons fitting last week and by far the most revealing part of it was choosing the right shaft. I’d say spend time on this part to ensure you get the best numbers for accuracy then distance, but also for feel and what feels best for you. I was surprised how much similar shafts could feel very different for me. Enjoy the experience but don’t feel pressured into buying. Good luck 👍
Mark is the best analyst of golf clubs bar none. I would advise beginner golfers to pick a set and play with them. Don't bother with fittings. If you play golf for long enough, you will gradually figure out what you like and what best suits your game. No need for a fitting in my opinion. Often fitters want to push certain products on to you. Also, they really don't know your game. Don't do a fitting.
What are your thoughts on someone like me who are playing the ap1s the chunkier clubs and now I'm learning more on how to strike the ball properly, do you think I would benefit more if I bought some more bladed clubs?
Question mark. I have a set of rsi1 tm irons lots of off set miss them left especially short irons , I have a set of fitted Titliest MB’s that are great I hit them straighter because lofts, lies etc are right, camoared to the rsi1 toe up and offset. Blades of course shorter in length but straight. I’m 62 now which would be better in your option for me to play
Never had a proper fitting. I am interested to see if I can get one length (if I even hit them good) 4-7 and then normal length CB 8-S. I tend to choke down on the longer irons anyway.
I think we are nervous about fitting when we come into the shop. Because we think that if I'm not striking it well or near our best the fit won't work.
can't agree more about brand I have been playing 23 years the first lesson I got he advised me to get a decent set of irons found a set of Ping eye's got measured up and have never looked back upgraded a few times on the I-Blade at the minute customer service has been second to none
I wish that the fitting carts had more clubs than just a 7 iron. Do you tend to be the same lie angle in all manufacturers clubs? I.e. 60.5* not 2* flat? I know mizunos are generally 1* flatter than others. And club length will also factor in. But does something like offset factor in as well?
I have this when I play. I have a traditional lofted iron set. When I play with most friends they say I hit 8 iron what did you hit. I say 7 and they think they must strike it better or harder neglecting the fact the loft between their 8 and my 7 are the same.
My biggest concern with a fitting as a high handicap golfer (18), is that my swing may not be exactly the same from day to day. I almost think I need to get fit, then come back a few days later and confirm it. Of course this is not really practical for most fitters. Luckily, with my scores, its not exactly fine tuned and small changes will likely not make much difference.
TX Kevin I have the same concerns. I’ve only been golfing for a year, and my swings are pretty inconsistent from day to day. I’m playing with an old set of no name clubs that my friend gave me, so I’m getting ready to purchase a new set of irons but I’m not sure what I should buy. We have a local pro shop that custom fits(I take lessons there also) a set of irons pretty reasonably, but they’re not name brand heads. They’ll obviously fit you for whatever you want to buy but I’m leery about dropping >$500 on a set to have them no longer fit my swing as I continue to improve.
@@Jediboxer consider the Ping self fitting system. You can get some very forgiving clubs I the G series. I used G 10s for years till recently and enjoyed them. Set would be less than 200 USD or so. Pings system uses measurements to est proper club length and lie. It translates this into a " color coded dot" system so there is a degree of fitting. Don't worry about the ideal shaft to get that extra 5 yds. Just get the shaft stiffness for your swing speed. You will likely be working on alignment, ball striking and eliminating flub shots for a while. Spending 1,000 on new clubs would be a waste. Pings are fine forgiving clubs and they will get you close.
Lucas Carman good point, although some people’s 7 irons are now stronger than 5 irons so the end up with lots of sub 30 degree irons which is where it begins to get more difficult to keep straight 27 degree iron is a lot to do with distance ego
The thing is its hard to find a fitter like you and Dan, If you go into your local AG branch they often just ask handicap and use the manufacturers guff to sell you a product. These type of videos are enlightening and give people the confidence to know if someone is forcing a sell or actually trying to sell them something to improve there game.
I know it is kinda randomly asking but do anybody know of a good website to stream new movies online?
@Saint Wesson i would suggest FlixZone. Just search on google for it =)
Mark you are my favorite golf mind to listen to. Always interesting and fun to listen to. Thanks from Florida!
Just bought a used 5-UW set of ping g5 maroon dot (I'm tall) and love them. 1995! Getting back into the game this year after a decade away.
My thoughts are starting to have an English accent. I'm from California. This isn't good..
😂👍🏌️
I'm sure the local girls/guys will go for it
As soon as I say, "What a sharp looking jumper" I'll ask for an intervention.
On the contrary Joe
Allow me to help translate:
“Fin” = “Thin”
“Fick” = “Think”
You get the idea 😊
Anyone thinking of getting fitted for clubs should watch this. I've always been wary of going for a fitting because I have heard lads complaining that it didn't help them! But having listened to your explanation I'm thinking they may have been looking for something that fitting couldn't give them. Maybe what they needed was a lesson and a better understanding of how they strike the ball. This video has given me good insight and I'll give fitting serious consideration now. Very enjoyable channel.
Never know till you go and get fitted. I fully expected to go buy a set of JPX 919 Forged and walked out with the Tours. Looked better, felt better and the numbers were better for what I wanted.
Great advice when thinking about such a big purchase. It’s a commitment and it’s helpful to have a knowledgeable resource
So glad i found your videos? Saved me a few thousand$$$ in mistakes
Just bought a new set of irons
Mizuno JPX921 Tour because my handicap has come down since my last set. Don’t really need extra distance. Loved the look and feel of the tour model. Extra playability allowing me to shape my shits into the greens.
JPX 921 forged in the 6, 5 & 4I for extra long iron performance.
Love the thinner top line.
Love the lack of oddest.
Love the brushed/ satin finished
Waiting to come out of Covid19 lockdown play a round with them.
My old set were JPX850 and have served me well.
Shaping shits is no joke. I’m very impressed with your bowel control 🔥
Enjoyed this. First custom fit I had (years ago) fitted me to my swing at the time which was delivering a high handle so lies at 3' up. Once I'd improved my swing they were unusable. Wish the fitter had mentioned that at the time.
Great video for consumers mark! I'd love to get fit one day but I'm that guy that gets out once a month if I'm lucky, 60 hours a week and 2 kids under 3 is not all that conducive to leisure time!
Moved to blades (MB714) a couple of years ago from muscle cavity and have found both accuracy and distance control has improved. When swinging well I find approaches are generally closer to target. Also know exactly where I’ve hit it on the club face.
Cheers boys 👍 off to the Belfry on Saturday for a fit, got some interesting ideas now to discuss with the fitter.
I suggest you watch the TXG video about grip size and different grips. It matters I tell you. It’s the only thing that connects you to the so no reason to just neglect it as “just do what you like”.
watched the same video and totally agree.
Such a great video Mark, we all want equipment to solve the problems of our swing, but it just can't do that.
Mate that’s the best advice I’ve ever heard and to all after just being fitted for a set of iron is to follow marks advice 💯 %
A truely good fitted will find you the right fit for you as I found for me in my Callaway apex irons and I never had them as a brand or iron id ever consider but I never looked at the back of the iron I was hitting so I just let the feel and numbers do the talking. Now just to decide what grips to get! 🤔
Great video, and great tips. I got fitted a few weeks ago, and went through three shops just to find a fitter personable/knowledgable enough for me to trust and deal with.
Spot on comments, great video, looking at changing my clubs so I improve???? I need to look at how I play first, my slice or top shot won’t disappear with a new club. Great advice, driver guide was very informative as well. As a foot note, glad to see Locky playing with a driver with a proper shaft ( might be a bit yellow but it’s very shiny!!!!)
Love me a bit of Jaguar with a little bit of phaser/vibe going...…. nice!
As a matter of fact. One of your best videos
Thanks Nick
One of your very best, all so true👍👍
I’m going for my first fit soon, so good timing.
That’s why you should pay for the fitting.
perfect timing !!! getting fitted in a month or 2
"when buying clubs, no-one should be telling you to stop.. ".... I´ll tell the mrs you said that next time she asks why I have 3 sets already and still looking at shiny new ones ;)
great tips brah! :)
Let me know how that goes for you ?😂👍🏌️
@@charlesrohl7635 health and safety advisory; wear protective hardhat and goggles when applying above logic.
Always making us think. Thank you Mark 👍
Fitter here: 15:14 this is very very very good advice.
My other main tip is to focus on what performance will lower your scores, and not what will help your ego. Here is a few key examples.
If you already hit your 7 iron 185 in the air you don't need to hit it 200, that will just give you bigger gaps in your short irons, and it will not make you play 18 holes in less shots. Distance consistency and control is more important then the furthest shot going as far as possible.
You are way better off being able to hit a 7 iron consistently 175, then sometimes 215, and sometimes 230, even if 230 looks cooler at the range.
The other big thing is misshit management, which misshit will punish you less on the course. If you have a 2 way miss that will cost you strokes, you are better off having a 1 way miss
This is especially true for drivers, you have no idea how many people have hit their furthest drive of the day and thought wow this setup must me great, when it only went far because they hit a super low spin hook that launched high and went 75 yards offline.
The example with this for irons is the same, on a sim hitting a sweeping hook with 4300 spin 200 yards with your 7 iron is a great shot, on the course it is not going to stop on the green, and might just be lost left.
When being fit don't try and hit it as far as possible, try and hit the ball like you would on the course.
Edit : 19:00 this is also very very very good advice, please listen to what mark says here, it makes my life, and job easier, and will make it easier for me or your fitter to find the best clubs for you.
Really good advice, I'm having lessons now which I hope will improve me as a player before purchasing new set of irons. Good advice though and good tips on what you should ask as a player!!👍👍
Thanks Mark. Great video as usual. I would also advise people not to get intoxicated by hitting a game improvement iron a mile. I swapped out my CB’s for the TAylormade M1’s because I could carry the 6 iron 200 vs 175 with the CB’s. Worst mistake ever. I just swapped back to regular lofts and bought the Apex Pro’s which are stunning. Cheers 🍻
Brilliant again Bruh. Would be nice to find a fitter who would think like you
I tried several sets and narrowed my search to the Srixon 785 and the Mizuno 919 Tour. Ended up going with the Srixon as the worst of my shots were a little bit better while the flushed shots behaved the same. I got a little higher spin with the Mizunos but I'm a high spin player anyway (~6800 7i with the Srixons, ~7050 Mizuno). Love them so far...
Quality watch that was...it's so tempting to buy new every year and i have bn a culprit of this, only this year I've regripped my irons instead of buying this year's bells and whistles 👍🏌️♂️
Love this. Getting my first ever fitting sesh soon as on the market for a set of irons.
Great video. I switched from Callaway rogue x to the 2018 x forged after watching your videos on de-plaining. The rogue x were absolutely ridiculous. I love the Callaway x forged irons 5-pw, Wedges are Callaway md4 52,56,60,but my driver is Ts3!!!😉😉😁
I just received a gift from the heavens, brand new Titleist 718 Ap2’s and SM7 wedges. Before this I was hitting a set of Nike Slingshot H/L’s lol. Can’t wait to see the difference in technology and feel!!!
I agree with what u said. I had a fitting for the first time last year and didn't know what to expect. They give around an hour for a fitting on irons and especially being my first time it wasn't long enough wish I would of paid for an extra hour. Don't get me wrong I love my clubs but I wonder if I had more time if I would have mix up my set weather adding hybrids, hybrids or work on gapping. But either way it was an awesome experience getting fitted
Hi Mark, I own precisely these 2 sets of irons AP1 718 and MB 716. I prefer the MBs for precision and feel even if the AP1s are powerfull and ridiculously forgiving.
Very interesting Mark, have just booked myself into the Wilson factory in Irvine to get new irons and hybrids. Was a little worried about how I would perform at fitting but now feeling a little more relaxed about it, thanks
yes yes YES ! Great video yet again Mark ! great mind's at work !
Good point about lessons. I remember having a fitting where I was hitting with toe up. Every time they tried a flatter club I unconsciously altered my swing so it still hit with toe up. It clearly was me not the club.
I bought into Mark’s ideas about fitting when he got his daughter a set of Titleist AP2 irons, with the right shaft. She looks like a good little player who benefits from Mark’s logic..ie. more loft is good.
You need to add a Tele to your guitar wall, in my humble opinion!
Funny this is posted because I was literally looking at the Ben Hogan site for a new set of irons although...................... I already bought a set a few months back but don’t like the thickness they have. I’m not a great player but I do love a thin and slim profile. A less chunky or clunky look at address instills confidence
Great video Mark everything about club fitting explained in Layman's Terms.I was fitted last month with Titleist AP1. My lie angle on the board was varying between standard and 1 degree flat? (Toe up). Advised me to stay with standard lie. Irons going dare I say it very good,
you two don’t think larger grips can help golfers who have excess face rotation (uncontrollable hooks) or smaller diameter for players who keep losing ball to the right?
Those new strings sound lovely. Nice purchase Bossfield and great advice too 👍🏽
Can you do a video on graphite vs. steel shafts in irons. Benefits, differences. thanks
Fantastic video Mark! Going for a fit on Thursday, excited & scared! Thanks for the tips!
I am a lefty and I have gamed with various mizuno irons for 30 years. I really want to treat myself to a set of miuras now they have a couple of dedicated leftie options. I have no idea where I could get fitted so it's going to be an order online job with the specs I normally play. What are your thoughts and is that too big a risk?
I have the same problem. Really want to try the new Srixon muscle backs but can't find anywhere that stocks them near me.
Will definitely be getting a custom fit on irons this year. Bought Callaway x2hot irons off the rack a few years ago & couldn’t keep a ball on the course. Having previously gamed titleist 990s for over a decade....
Great advice Mark, I've been thinking of changing my clubs for a while now and you've given me plenty of food for thought. By the way I reckon that Jaguar now needs a Mustang for company.
I'm concerned the main stream pros will steer you to a particular brand. Where is the best place to go for an independent fit? Love this channel.
I would just ask to try a few sets or ask friends if you can try theirs.
So many great ideas that seem difficult to apply, at least here in the States. Most places I have seen, sell an iron fitting, a wedge fitting, hybrids and fairways are there own category, and they don’t really want to intermix the categories without changing an exorbitant amount of money. I have no problem spending money for a fit, but sometimes they definitely act like making money is more important than what is right for the customer.
Loving the guitars mark. Need a vlog where u play them braahh
Oh.... I hadnt watched to the end at the time of comment. Lol. What amp do u use btw. And yeh...we still need more guitar in the vlogs
Hope you're playing in the TH-cam golf tournament!! Everyone would enjoy it.
too bloody late, they turned up on Friday :-) Got fitted at Titleist National fitting centre at St Ives, Cambridge. went there with AP2 712's and left with AP2's 718's, ok they were 1/2 inch longer, 2 degrees flat, standard loft, unlike my old AP2's which were bought for £170 from the pro shop 4 years ago :-)
100% guys shaft is a timing device that can alter strike location , grips defiantly affect shots if incorrect sizing , it’s all about feel and how it looks is important ,it can give confidence or leave you with no confidence 👍🏻
Thanks Mark!! I feel like this video empowers me. Gives me confidence as to what I, as a beginner, should be looking at and asking for. I currently have an internal battle of, well I’m not good enough to get new clubs or I bet new clubs would help with... I have no idea if any of that is true. I’m a beginner.
Hi Jamie Knowles go to a fitting with your own 7 iron to compare against. Try a few different clubs and various shaft options and see if there’s one set that helps you hit the ball straighter, longer, and you could afford, then you can consider if you should change. One last thing in most cases some lessons with a good coach would improve your game far more than any new clubs will. Good luck 👍
I usually buy second hand then sell after a year or so then move onto something newer... but these I500's may stay in my bag for some time!
Fantastic advice start to finish!!! Thanks Mark.
Thanks for the reply Mark, I watched this video tonight which is a Month after I got, what I call a partial fitting from Puetz Golf in Seattle ,USA while I was visiting family. I live on the fantastic Vancouver Island, British Columbia. Future home of Prince Harry, I think. I found that the JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro was my preferred iron with 110 pro taper shafts, and triple wrap standard grips. Waiting impatiently for them to arrive. I am a 9-11 handycap based on weekly physical abuse. ( I scuba dive, Teach Chinese Kenpo Karate, Dirt Bike, Downhill Ski, and Run Kick boxing classes) . This is mostly all weekly, skiing is a winter add, Oh and yes I golf as much as I can, 2 rounds this last weekend.in between snow falls.LOL.
Sorry, to get to the point, I wish I watched this video first, as I'm sure I may not be standard loft and standard lie. I have JPX 850 irons now with 130 gram stiff shafts.and at 49 years old I feel the 130 gram is a bit heavy?
Thanks for the continued videos, I have watched you from here since 2013 when I started golfing for the first time. Cheers.
Mark, txg will often use lie angle to help with shot shape on a fit. Ie if a player’s lie angle is zero but they draw the ball, fix the lie so that it’s 4 toe down to reduce this draw. Do you agree with this or would you prefer to work on the technique issue causing this overdraw? Very interesting video by the by.
Yeah if the player wants to go this way that’s cool. Most players I see would rather improve 👍
Sound advice Mr C - another good daily vlog and like your new shiny toys - sound good too!
My #1 Iron buying tip. Demo the 3 iron, if you can hit that well, you'll have no problem with the rest of the set. That's the rule I've used since 1992. And probably why I Suck!
Love seeing you show off your guitar. All the best Mark let me know if you need a drummer 😂
Both hands on the steering wheel please mark. Good tips.
or even one hand would be good
Great vid Mark, empowering the people :-) just bought a new mizuno JPX 919, tour set, i’m over the moon with the looks and feel
When are we gonna get a guitar solo Shredfield?
Haha loving that. Shredfield lol. Sure it would be the dreary single note solos from the boys in Exeter (Chris Martin and co).....or maybe not. Maybe he'll treat us to some John Mayor
Superb video. Absolutely brilliant.
👨🦲Uncle Fester 😂🤣
Thanks for that. Now it will probably be the only part of the video that will actually stick in my head. I hope Uncle Fester's mum isn't too sad 🙍
Titleist ap3 irons, callaway Mack daddy forged wedges, ping g400 driver, taylormade aeroburner 3 wood and h1 21 degree hybrid. I’d call mine a mixed bag 😂
Great well explained advice as always.
I've noticed that you have eleven dislikes on this video. How the hell can you dislikes such valuable information. Great video, thanks for your efforts. ( love Dan's instruction gadget).
😅 tried lots of clubs and ended up with a combo of P730/P760 love the look .. first day out on the course tomorrow at Burnham and Berrow 😂
Class as always mark.👌🏽
Well done, well said, enough said...cheers!
This is great I'm looking to get a new set of irons and didn't know where to start cheers bruh
Anthony Craig I had a irons fitting last week and by far the most revealing part of it was choosing the right shaft. I’d say spend time on this part to ensure you get the best numbers for accuracy then distance, but also for feel and what feels best for you. I was surprised how much similar shafts could feel very different for me. Enjoy the experience but don’t feel pressured into buying. Good luck 👍
Can i tell my wife I don't need to justify my new mizuno irons in future because you said it's OK? 🤪
Of course!! Or you can just do what she does, buy them and when she asks about them, say, "What? These old things?".
Hey Mark, have you been fitted for that Jag? :-D I love those guitars...
You started in the studio with an M4 and then switched to AP1! hahaha
Love these videos bruh
Mark is the best analyst of golf clubs bar none. I would advise beginner golfers to pick a set and play with them. Don't bother with fittings. If you play golf for long enough, you will gradually figure out what you like and what best suits your game. No need for a fitting in my opinion. Often fitters want to push certain products on to you. Also, they really don't know your game. Don't do a fitting.
What are your thoughts on someone like me who are playing the ap1s the chunkier clubs and now I'm learning more on how to strike the ball properly, do you think I would benefit more if I bought some more bladed clubs?
Question mark. I have a set of rsi1 tm irons lots of off set miss them left especially short irons , I have a set of fitted Titliest MB’s that are great I hit them straighter because lofts, lies etc are right, camoared to the rsi1 toe up and offset. Blades of course shorter in length but straight. I’m 62 now which would be better in your option for me to play
Never had a proper fitting. I am interested to see if I can get one length (if I even hit them good) 4-7 and then normal length CB 8-S. I tend to choke down on the longer irons anyway.
I think we are nervous about fitting when we come into the shop. Because we think that if I'm not striking it well or near our best the fit won't work.
great video as usual. Esp the chicken/egg scenario ref lesson/kit. Pleased to hear you included grip style & thickness. Thanks Rod
That purple capo... 😉
can't agree more about brand I have been playing 23 years the first lesson I got he advised me to get a decent set of irons found a set of Ping eye's got measured up and have never looked back upgraded a few times on the I-Blade at the minute customer service has been second to none
Went for a fitting last week, after trying lots of options the fitter told me that best option for me was just to add a lot more weight to the head.
As a junior should I get custom fit because I’m 15 and still growing so do I get fit or get standard and then get fit when I’m older?
Great insights there from Dan 👍
Can you do a video about fitting for a 1/2 set or what the pros and cons of a 1/2 set would be?
Very useful boys great vids dad is fitting in quite well
I wish that the fitting carts had more clubs than just a 7 iron. Do you tend to be the same lie angle in all manufacturers clubs? I.e. 60.5* not 2* flat? I know mizunos are generally 1* flatter than others. And club length will also factor in. But does something like offset factor in as well?
Player rules true story! Don't be afraid of trying those clubs you think you can't hit!
Good video
What is your take Mark on slow swing speed players not having every iron in the bag, like wedge, 8 iron, 6 iron....based on gapping between clubs.
Yep that’s good 👍
I have this when I play. I have a traditional lofted iron set. When I play with most friends they say I hit 8 iron what did you hit. I say 7 and they think they must strike it better or harder neglecting the fact the loft between their 8 and my 7 are the same.
I had to go with cast irons because of cost and budget wise, unfortunately very good condition forged set didn’t fit into my budget like I’d hoped
My biggest concern with a fitting as a high handicap golfer (18), is that my swing may not be exactly the same from day to day. I almost think I need to get fit, then come back a few days later and confirm it. Of course this is not really practical for most fitters. Luckily, with my scores, its not exactly fine tuned and small changes will likely not make much difference.
TX Kevin I have the same concerns. I’ve only been golfing for a year, and my swings are pretty inconsistent from day to day. I’m playing with an old set of no name clubs that my friend gave me, so I’m getting ready to purchase a new set of irons but I’m not sure what I should buy. We have a local pro shop that custom fits(I take lessons there also) a set of irons pretty reasonably, but they’re not name brand heads. They’ll obviously fit you for whatever you want to buy but I’m leery about dropping >$500 on a set to have them no longer fit my swing as I continue to improve.
@@Jediboxer consider the Ping self fitting system. You can get some very forgiving clubs I the G series. I used G 10s for years till recently and enjoyed them. Set would be less than 200 USD or so. Pings system uses measurements to est proper club length and lie. It translates this into a " color coded dot" system so there is a degree of fitting. Don't worry about the ideal shaft to get that extra 5 yds. Just get the shaft stiffness for your swing speed. You will likely be working on alignment, ball striking and eliminating flub shots for a while. Spending 1,000 on new clubs would be a waste. Pings are fine forgiving clubs and they will get you close.
Nice Jag. Fenders are fun guitars to play
Isnt the D plane discussion pointless? Since the 7 in AP1 is really a 6 in MB, then the d plans spin and all that is still the same for the same loft
Lucas Carman good point, although some people’s 7 irons are now stronger than 5 irons so the end up with lots of sub 30 degree irons which is where it begins to get more difficult to keep straight
27 degree iron is a lot to do with distance ego