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Love the ChipR: upright stance and heavy head. I've been on a run of rounds in the 80s but thought I'd blown it last Friday. 19 over after 17 holes (par 72). Par 5 to finish and can't quite reach in 2. Left myself 60ish yards and used the ChipR. Hit it nicely - landed on the front of the green and saw it roll over the ridge and looked to roll off the back of the green. Wasn't there - it was in the hole! Eagle on the last for a 89! :-)
It's 100x more satisfying to chip with an open 60 or a 7-iron bump and run. Making golf difficult is more fun than fixing your game with gimmick clubs.
@@jon4715 7i and 60°, why make it so easy on yourself? Would it not be a 1000 times more fun making an Eagle with a sledgehammer?
@@ssubotai I have a 7i and a 60w in my bag anyway. But then I play a 2i too.
And yeah, having some skill, pushing yourself and making a difficult shot you weren't completely sure you could make is a great feeling. Also, a 7i bump and run is already super easy, so is putting from the fringe.
Love the ChipR! I'm HC 28. Only had it for a week now. Practiced 100 balls with and it felt immediately natural. Did 2 runs with it and I'm certain it already saved me several shots. Any between 0 to 30 meters from the green has become a no brainer. The only time I need to take my wedges out if from or over a bunker with a short landingzone. But even then one time I just used the chipper to go around the bunker. Because the choice between a hero-shot that succeeds only 50% of time and a no brainer chipR that gives me a long put, I'm always taking the chipr + the long put...
I've been using the chipr for 6 month now, its magic. This single club has helped me bring down my score more than all the other clubs put together. It’s s certainly not a one dimensional club as he is mentioning in the video, you can have a variety of shots if you know how to use it. I agree that its a bit hot off the face but if you play a low spinny punch shot, the ball stops on a dime.
I love mine! I didn’t particularly struggle with chipping and was quite adept at bump and running with 7-PW. However…since putting one in the bag, it just takes all the multiple choice out of it green side. Just seems to help me focus and commit to the shot. Every one turns their nose uk at it, then tries mine, then inevitably get off their high horse. More than a few have even ordered one very soon afterwards.
Bought this last year after watching your original review, nice to see this follow up. It has made a great improvement in my game and I am more confident on short game around the greens. I do wish Ping would put out a 55 degree or so model for popping up shots over bunkers and water etc. I found that with its longer grip I can grip way down and handle those short side chip pretty well.
I’m currently not running a 3 Wood allowing me to use the Chipr (game changing), but like you want something with a bit more loft over small bunkers etc, so I’ve a 55 degree mazel arriving tomorrow to add to the bag. Hopefully they will work together.
Luckily I could care less about club count and the ChipR is literally a cheat club, love it!
@@littlebob1261 If you're a recreational golfer who gives a shit about how many clubs are in your bag. If you have more fun playing with 15 so be it.
I am a begginer and I made my 10 first birdies last summer, 5 of them with the ping chipr, as I get better with my other clubs I will eventually sell it...meanwhile it's a confidence booster and such a reliable tool!
This is the way you should use it. Help you learn the game, get rid of it when you know how to chip with real clubs.
I also shaved off 20to30 shots by using chipper
@@amir3992 wow! It really is easy to use right, just a putting stroke. You do have to practice with it to get the sensation of the speed but when it's mastered it's perfect bump and run magic!
@@amir3992 20 to 30 shots a round?
Cleveland had one of these for year's. I've been using for 6-7 years and it is my go to when approaching from anywhere from 100m in. They really do work and I find the versatility brilliant l.
So I've been playing golf on and off for 30 plus years. I've been back into the game for the last 5 straight seasons. But hear me out. I have taken swing lessons, and I work on that part of my game. I also work 6 days a week. Therefore, I have limited time to practice. So my practice is focused on the biggest parts of my game. The ping chipper, has been a magic club. Not only does it work for me. But it took limited practice to get the hang of. Helped my game greatly. So that part of my bag has 50, ping chipper, and a 56. Works for me.
Once again, thank you for your reviews. Truly entertaining and appreciated.
I have had one for about six months and the main thing for me is it takes the fear of blading or chucking your chip away. Some thing I do regularly with a wedge. I can stand over this and feel confident of getting it somewhere on the green. I don’t need it for longer shots.
Great insight again from the average golfer, thank you.
As a new - high handicap golfer trying to get better - the Smart Sole 4 Chipper from Cleveland has helped me go from consistantly above 100 with a H.I. of 32 down to my current 22.4. and shooting in the low to mid 90s. That said - I've recently had a really nice session with my PXG fitter who shared some great chipping theory/technique with me - using traditional wedges. I am now finding that I can use both techniques and both types of club for certain conditions around the green. I have space in my bag - so the chipper will remain for the time being. I really enjoy hitting it and am really enjoying my other wedges (52 and 58 PXG Forged 0311) as well.
Thanks for your great videos! Love mine as well, and this club is great for recreational players like myself. Playing municipals in Texas, we have a lot of hardpan on the courses due to the excessive heat and little rain in the summer, which can make it very difficult to hit down on the ball with a full wedge. The ChipR can easily overcome this issue and gives a solid shot to the green within 40 yards. I had mine professionally bent to 40-41 degrees loft which does allow the ball to land softer on greens. If Ping made a ChipR at 52 degrees loft, it would give us recreational players a great weapon within 90 yards of the pin!
I had the 42-degree Cleveland chipper for a while but have since adjusted my technique and no longer need it. I simply scoot my feet up to the ball and use my GW or 54-degree wedge with a putting motion and I am all set with significantly more height than what this chipper has.
Hi Andy loved your video 👍, I love using my ChipR tweaked from 39deg to 41deg the extra loft made it much easier to judge distances for me 👍, the strength of my game are my Wedges from 100yards & in, where I found the ChipR (like you), it’s a great club more versatile than Ping say it’s improved my short game (can recommend it) to golfers who want to improve their short game 👍, Thanks Andy Dickey 9hcp 76year senior golfer
I've been using the Cleveland chipper. I love it. I'd love to see the pro hit select shots with both the chipper and his preferred wedge on the same shot and see how the results compare!
Love my Cleveland Chipper too. Most used club after my putter
How many degrees do you hace in your cleveland?
@@JustManel_ The cleveland C smart sole has 42 degrees loft
@@Klimwriter@Klimwriter yeah and that's why it works better than the ChipR over bunkers around the green... it's like a heavy 9 iron...
I got one today. First off, I have a great short game. Back in the old days, I played blades because they were great to chip with. However, modern hollow body player’s distance irons are too hot. I’ve been using my 58° almost exclusively and flying it almost to the hole lately. I replaced my 3-4-5 with a 7 & 9 wood. Basically covers the same range and in theory I can take a few yards off to cover the distance I need. In reality, there is wind and weather that makes a difference in that 185-205 range. So going to those opened a space for the chipper. Today was my first round with this set up.
On one hand, I didn’t light up the course. On the other hand, not one time did I find myself between clubs in the 185 range and did hit the green from 172 into a 20 mph wind. I had 8 opportunities to chip the ball. Generally got within 5’. I had 3 opportunities to use it on the course getting out of trouble and just punched it into the fairway. I also had 111 yards to a green with no trouble in the way so I hit a bump and run and had a 15’er for birdie. Which I left short.
For me, having my longest iron as a 6 iron then a 15 yard gap to my 9 wood and another 15 to my 7 wood at the top of the bag and a “one dimensional” club at the bottom of the bag that I can use 10+ times a round is much better than having 3 clubs with tighter gapping at the top of the bag. I was impressed with the results considering the first time even hit it was on the course today. I almost holed that first shot but hit it a little firm. I think it will be a 1/4 flight to 3/4 roll club.
I watch yours and James Robinson's video's and that got me to buy one. I 100% LOVE IT! I use it from 130 yards out to up to the edge of the greens. The only time I don't use it is in the sand unless it's in the middle and flat. I can make it get loft and spin too once you get used to it. It's pure vanity if you refuse to use a ChipR.
I’ve bought one and find it too fast off the face for accurate distance control beyond 30 yards. I’ll use it for the delicate 30 yards and closer putter style shots and for these it’s a magic wand. I think the weight of the head makes it inconsistent on longer shots.
I play of 9 and have always struggled around the green .bought one recently and it's improved my so called short game.
Up until five years ago I played a lot; including lots of tournaments. And never needed or considered using a chipper.
However, I’m now 66; and in the past 3-4 years years I’ve only played 3-4 times a year (whereas I used to play that much weekly). I’m just now back to playing regularly and found my short game was killing my fun and my scores. So, recently I dropped my lob wedge in favor of a chipper, first as simply an experiment. I’m now having fun again and scores are quickly improving, very largely thanks to the no-stress chipper (and not trying to bomb my driver). I use mine on our current winter lies from 50-60 yards in, any situation. I’m in the game now just for fun; and a chipper definitely has helped in that direction. No question it would be my choice in a “Tin-Cup” single club challenge.
I've had the ChipR for awhile and I probably was the only person in America who couldn't hit it, took a month break until today and I couldn't miss with it
Many a birds and par saves you will have
I have it 1" long 1deg upright green dot. Works great for generaj chipping, the one place it doesn't work well is on really fast greens. I struggle with the touch to not blow it by the hole all the time. I actually switched to my 58 on my last round as I struggled with it due to the speed of the greens.
Have a cheap MacGregor chipper and I really like it. Took my 60 degree club out as I never use it. Hardest part for me is, apart from the course, finding somewhere to be able to practice it as much as I would like to. Has certainly helped my game more than it's hindered it, especially in winter's wet then frosty conditions.
Good one here Andy. I've been trying out a Cleveland chipper this winter. I've holed out with the chipper a number of times so it will be hard to take it out of the bag.
Thanks Andy. Added the Ping Chipr to my bag last year and my chipping has been significantly better.
Have not tried a chipper as yet but will look at a Cleveland chipper for those very tight lies from close to the green...Thanks for your views Andy and the Pro...
My chipping has always been pretty good, but I do love the ChipR. It suits chip and run UK links golf, because that’s how we’ve always played around the greens. It will only take one tour pro or senior tour pro to put it in their back to dismiss the anti ChipR lobby. Look at how 7 woods are now in the in-thing, yet were dismissed as senior clubs several years ago. Definitely not one dimensional either, I even used mine from a lie 20 feet off the fairway under trees today as the high bounce and low launch suited the shot mush better than an iron or even a hybrid. Would have been interesting to see what Seve would have made of one of these!
I completely agree that a Ping ChipR with more loft would be useful. Even like 42-44 degrees would be better. The current 38 degree version just doesn’t go high enough to be useful on non-links courses, in my experience. Even around the green, if you play faster greens, it’s too strong-lofted to use if you’re short-sided.
The average duffer does not play on fast country club greens. On fast greens, yes wedge and spin it a bit. This club is for double digit handicapper. People hate skulling and fatting the wedges which causes double and triple bogeys.
I got one for this year. I'm a good chipper, we will see what happens once our course opens in 2 1/2 months. there are times during the season I struggle chipping with course conditions, I hope this will help with that!
I’m a huge pro ChipR, the heavy weight easy stroke will make it a winner for many. I’d like to see a set of irons in this configuration. Cheers!
When I was younger and played 3+ times a week over the summer my short game was great... now where I don't get out nearly as much it has really suffered. I'm not for or anti chipr right now, but at some point will try it out to see if I can just get more consistent results. It'll probably not be that much different because I just won't get the rep's, but I'm still curious. My cousin used a chipper when we were in our teens and he was deadly accurate with the thing from 100 yards and in. I hated the thing and was just fine w/ my wedges and a bump and run 7 iron around the green.
I'm not anti chipper at all. I feel a pw can do the same job. I'm sure this will help most right off the green where you need to cover less rough and get it rolling. For me idk what to take out of the bag to add it in.
It took me a bit of time to get used to it. At first I was running of greens frequently. However, I intuitively calibrated shots after awhile and it has been amazing since.
Another great video mate. I must like what you do as I’ve now got the halo irons and the Ping chippr. Currently at 19 but coming down with these clubs👍
I've played 2 rounds with one, I like it and I use it from further out also as I think it's easier to hit than a wedge, I'm still trying to get used to distances though and getting the right sort of swing on it, its strange and I've topped it a couple of times, my putting stroke is long straight back and through, I don't think the chipr likes my putting stroke, it almost likes being stabbed at to just pop it up alittle bit and Im trying to get used to it once I do I think I'll see numbers drop, this may not make any sense at all but I hope you get what I mean if you see this comment
Love the chipr. I’ve worked how how and when to use it now. I used it too much. If I’m just off the green I’ve gone back to my 8 iron which i was pretty good with any way. If 10-15 yards off green with nothing to go over our comes the chipr.
Just don’t get to reliant on one is my advice to anyone getting one
Great vid as always. Seriously considering grabbing one of these but I agree. I do wish they had a model with a little more loft
I have the Cleveland in my bag and love it. iWorks and at a lower price then the ping.
I use the Cleveland Smart Sole 4C and love it around the green.
Great video. Yep it’s obviously a club for those that need help with their chipping and not a pro. It serves it’s purpose if you can afford it. Looks great too
Most other chippers, including the Odyssey, are illegal due to the alignment aid. The only ones I know of that are legal are the Ping and the Cleveland, which is what I have and love.
Andy, could you compare the chipper and the Cleveland smart sole please
That’s why I use the Cleveland more loft doesn’t run out as much and Cleveland has the gap and sand wedges also so I’d be tipping Ping will follow
Could this replace a gap wedge and be used as both gap wedge and chipper?
56 degree and my ChipR is ALL I need ( 9 handicap player)
Love my ping chipper. For me easy to use and a shot saver!
I won my weekly club competition recently and it was my best round in years and I used my ChipR at least 10 times from 100 metres in.
Ps golf weekend in North Wales coming up and need a recommendation for a course near the A55 for the Sunday on the way back home. Holywell?
I hope ping builds off this and adds some higher lofts. I would game a 50* etc in a heartbeat. For me I chip with more loft and never chip with an iron. So I sold the ChipR almost immediately. Still bag the smart sole C.
Love the ChipR ❤️🔥🔥 great video Andy and Lewis loving the club just won’t admit it 😅
I have been using one for a while and it helps me score.
I am using the cleveland smart Sole Chipper. Can use from 60m in. Even use it in the green side bunker. Get unbelievable looks fron my playing partners when i do that 😅😅😅
I have one and it is so reliable and fills me with confidence.
I was never a bad chipper but the Chipr just makes it easier. There was a gap in the bag so why not use it 👍🏻
Had the chipr but then went with the cleveland chipper, more loft, graphite shaft, lighter. it's a winner
Got one a few weeks ago and instantly hated it, found I thinned it more often than not and also felt very heavy.
Yep,a clunky cash grab.
Because Lewis is a gentleman I'd love to hear what he said off camera 😲. They have their place and for absolute beginners they will inspire confident, which is a plus. As a negative, they appear a little one dimensional and possibly difficult to create a shot when needed. Great review boys.
Wedge over rough , 9 iron over a few fet of 1st cut works v well
Great club does help out and looks better than most chippers.
Extremely professional from Lewis. I bet he's a real asset to the club.
Hi Andy, another great video. I enjoy all your videos, especially showing and discussing all the variety of clubs that are now available.
The only thing now is I'm more confused over what clubs I should get. I've had my current Cobra irons for 10 years, and I'm a 15 handicap and looking to update them.
As you would know, there is a large number of irons recommended for a mid handicap. But watching many of your videos, I am starting to think, should I be getting Cleveland halo or Stealth HD or similar.
I will be getting fitted for new irons, but how do I limit the number of irons to try?
From your videos, is it just an ego that stops us from selecting the easiest irons?
Would appreciate comments.
I use a wilson prostaff chipper from sports direct played the first comp off the new season today a monthly medal and broken 100 for my first ever time got 99
Looking forward to this one…
Got 1,played on Sunday chipped in twice,its staying in the bag,no brainer,getting the ball into the circle of friends every time,no way could I do it before, I love it😉
Great to hear Stephen 👍
you still use the CHIPR? @@TheAverageGolfer
It could be very useful for golfers looking to just have some fun and don't want to practice the short game. My problem us the price. They are $300 here is Canada plus tax which is $340. A lot of dollars for a chipper, the cleveland is 50% cheaper.
I really wanted one but I just use my 9 iron instead . If the used market price drops I’ll most likely have one in the bag.
Love my mine Ping Chpr. Not one dimensional. I use it for a full shot and anything under 100 metres. Effortless and easy to use.
waiting for ping to release a higher loft chip r for over bunkers etc to retire my oldest club in my bag
The Cleveland is more versatile as it has 42 degrees of loft. I use mine out to 80 yards.
Lessons or chipper....I think that all comes down to what's more important in your game? If you play on occasion and not really serious about golf then chipper...if you want to get better then lessons. For me I like versatility and I want to get better...so lessons/proper technique.
It's another interesting review on this and I have 2 observations. The first is that when you have those difficult shots where you're short sided or you have to go over something. Really good players are trying to get it close, for those guys the child is never going to be the one. If you're not breaking 100 or you're duffing every wedge shot then really, you just need to get it on the green and remove the chance of that soul destroying duff into trouble.
The 2nd point is that you're the first person that's really mentioned the lack of loft, why hasn't anyone just bent a gap wedge upright and done a video with it?
Child = chipr autocorrect clearly wasn't a golfer
I think he nailed it Ping bring out a 52 degree ChipR+. This is a great club if chipping is a nightmare.
I love mine!
id love one in a 9 iron loft. 7 iron is limited. oh and dont think you can bend these. no chance i took a damn heat gun to mine and no luck really.
Lou said the ChipR is "horrendous"!
In the words of Asda. every little helps 😊
Good show.
Cleveland Chipper is 42deg, and pops better than the Ping around the green.
I think the Ping is better for Rec players, but if you're trying to convince a Gamer to use a chipper, use the Cleave.
I think the chipper is a good idea, but a lesson will help you with all of your wedges, not just switching to a single club to use.
How heavy is Lewis’s wedge? He’s dragging it like it’s 50kg 😅
I got a kick out of Lewis's skepticism. Good thing you didn't tell him what club you were going to review Andy.
Ill stick to my cleveland smartsole 4
Why is the audio mix on this video so terrible?
'BIG PROBLEM' is with the audio.
you have to learn the chipr, just like you need to stop trying to do hero shots, you need to check your ego and try it, it's fun once you learn the diff distance.
Not a club for me at the mo . . . I’d rather get lessons and improve my skill (like Lewis said). That said - the one dimension will help many players, and maybe me, one day
Lessons + time to practice = $$$$
Cheaper + no lessons = $$
It all depends on a players time and budget. As most of us have little you go with what you are confident in.
Seems like a waste of a club to me either learn to chip with wedges but do it off grass not mats or chip with your 7 iron as basically that’s what it is apart from being more upright🤔
Lew = Good Sport.
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"Not another one of these..."
Chippers have been around for years. I find it hilarious that TH-camrs have suddenly seen the light because ping released one. 🤣
I reviewed one years ago…..and several since, nothing to do with Ping 🤷♂️
@@TheAverageGolfer Correct but you have done more than one video on the ping product. I don't think you gave the Cleveland product or any other manufacturer more than one video.
@@royahoy8655 how does the quantity of videos relate to ‘TH-camrs have seen the light since ping released one’…..which you have now confirmed I have featured many chippers on this channel?…… is the insinuation favouritism towards Ping?
@@TheAverageGolfer no mate I'm not insinuating a favouritism towards ping. If I was going to imply favouritism towards a brand I would have done it years ago with your adverts for PXG. I'm glad you have replied to my comments though as our last interaction I noticed has been deleted. Remember you said only women bitch about clothes and I called you out for your sexist comment?
It was quite clear despite what he said that he didn't Like the club at all
I’m not sure Lewis (he) ever tried to suggest he did like it? He is a golf pro and his evaluation wasn’t based on his personal preference 👍
@@TheAverageGolfer sorry I disagree with that.. Lewis (sorry for using he) made it quite evident from the body language that as a Pro he was not interested. I have seen plenty of reviews of the Ping Chip R with many Professional golfers and that was the most negative feedback I've seen.
loving the contebt in 2023
The shaft is too whippy for the pro...
Its a chipper!!
He was Very negative... but trying to say the right thing on the video
Hands out of pockets, look interested.
Like your vids but having to watch Hotgolf every time is getting annoying
These lies are extremely simple and boring. How does this club work in difficult condition? Difficult courses? Seems like a waste of 1/14 of a set.
Suck it up and learn chipping with a gap,pitch,9,8,7 iron. It's not that difficult..
It's serves the same purpose as chipping with an 8 or 9 iron, albeit possibly more consistently. However, if the shot requires chipping with a higher lofted club then it is not the ideal chipping club.
So every golfer out there ditch your adjustable drivers,fairways & hybrids learn how to hit your bladed irons and non adjustable fairways it’s not that difficult
That may be your opinion, but Golf is a difficult game for some of us, and a club like this is great for an average golfer like me.
I love this club. It is very versatile.