I'm glad he gave scarecrow the justice he deserves. Cillian Murphy is a master at acting as johnathan Crane. He didn't even need a mask to be a good foe, he still would have made the same impact on me.
Same! He’s one of my favorite actors and Scarecrow is one of my favorite Batman villains. (Love all the Batman villains) He’s really amazing at playing Scarecrow aka Dr. Jonathan Crane. Plus he’s hot. 😍
Very true! So glad an expert has dissected and appreciated the brilliance in Cillian's acting, and the depth he gives to the character he plays, like The Scarecrow. He understands the assignment! Such a great actor and he deserves such praises. 🌟🙌🏻🌟
@@alwaysaishy i couldnt agree more maan!;) he hit the role realy good. in real life i wouldnt mess with body like that. he may be nerdy. but hes very dangeris. im glad they pick him for the role. it fits him!;)
He's my favorite villain. That voice. So distinct and really threatening. I couldn't believe it was the same guy that played the villain in Star Trek Nemeses.
Plus he truly brought alive the fact that bane isn’t just some brute with strength. He’s highly skilled and even more intelligent which was brought out by his tone
Bane was actually my first time seeing Tom Hardy's performance of any kind, so when he later showed in other movies like Mad Max and so fourth, he looked totally unrecognizable, he's a great actor, though i dont think he was the perfect choice for Venom though, he was still good with what was given to him
I absolutely LOVED Heath Ledger's Joker. I was amazed that Joaquin Phoenix was able to portray his Joker in such a . . . relatable manner. It truly shocked me how much you could empathize with a character who is supposed to be a murderous psychopath.
Joaquin portrayed a metamorphosis and that's very hard to pull off. I think WB should gradually complete the transformation in another solo film. It would definetly bank in another billion.
i dont believe anyone else could have followed in HL footsteps - and elevated that character - but JP. that film easily could have been ridiculed forever but it was a gem for sure.
That is Slander. Joker only "appears" to be a Murdering Psychopath. He is actually hyper Intelligent and Logical. ... his "Goal" may be horrible, his "Method" may be disturbing. .. .. .. but he -isnt- crazy. He just lives in a world where (as they say in Forever):: where 'right' and 'wrong' no longer exist, but have been replaced with 'fun' and 'boring' Being an "average citizen" is boring ... blowing up a hospital, however.
Heath Ledger constantly licking his lips in The Dark Knight supposedly was actually a "side effect" from the prosthetic scars he had on his face. Apparently Nolan liked it and chose to leave it in.
yeah, heard/ read somewhere that the edges of the prosthetic kept coming off, so he licked it to stick it back on. Became a habit and looked good on film.
@@faffywhosmilesatdeath5953 Something to do with his voice, I believe he used to get dry lips doing the voice, truthfully it's probably a combination of form and function
Really not just a great performance as the Joker. Just a great performance. I heard Heath Ledger worked with a voice coach for months perfecting his Joker voice, and his laugh.
There will probably be an argument in the replies but Heath ledger is the best joker probably someone will be better than him you don’t know Heath ledger joker is a masterpiece
@@I_am_currently_chill I think they were both great for different reasons. Both movies had different types of production behind it. Tim Burton is kinda cooky so Jack worked well for that vision. And The Dark Knight series was well...dark. And Heath played that well.
God I remember when that movie hadnt even come out yet and Ledger’s death was on the news making the film legendary before it even hit theaters. I think I saw that movie in theaters so many times on imax to experience its awesomeness
0:41 Suicide Squad (2016), Jared Leto (Joker) 2:44 Batman Beggins (2005), Cillian Murphy (Scarecrow) 5:11 Batman TV Show (1967), Eartha Kitt (Catwoman) 6:39 Batman and Robin (1997), Uma Thurman (Poison Ivy) 8:42 Batman (1989), Jack Nicholson (Joker) 9:58 Suicide Squad (2016), Margot Robbie (Harley Quinn) 11:37 Batman Returns (1992), Danny DeVito (Penguin) 13:13 Joker (2019), Joaquin Phoenix 15:44 Batman Forever (1995), Jim Carey (Riddler) 17:15 What we came here for
The whole Dark Knight trilogy was packed with talent. Amazing cast Christian Bale, Michael Cane, Gary Oldman, Cillian Murphy, Morgan Freeman, Tom Hardy, Heath Ledger, Liam Neeson and many more. One of the all time greatest composers in Hans Zimmer and the pure brilliance of Christopher Nolan.
@@bloodaonadeline8346 well jack nicholson doesnt really fit in that category of actors. The man is literally like top 10 greatest actors of all time so he's a little more than world class
He was originally going to play Batman/Bruce Wayne, but Christian Bale was the better actor for that role. Murphy did such a good job though, even they recognized letting him go would be a waste, and that's how he got the role as the Scarecrow
Cillian Murphy is so underrated.. a very humble man too. Additionally: if anyone likes Cillian Murphy and hasn't seen his little thriller film with Rachel McAdams called Red Eye, you should watch it. His entire performance carries that movie.
I absolutely loved Batman Begins and feel that it tends to get overlooked a lot because of the other movies.. which is not a fault at all of Dark Knight because it's so good.. but I wish people would go back and really see to appreciate it as much.. same for Rises.. Nolan really knocked it out of the park with the trilogy..
I think Jim Carrey now, 26 years later,, would be a much better Riddler. He's older, darker and less theatrical but still has that playfulness that's needed for the character.
Right? I feel like at the era in his life when making the movie he was chosen for his enthusiasm, so if anything the producers are the ones to blame for getting this kind of great actor who didn't have that range yet.
Ya i think it had more to do with the producers of the films..wanted to make those Batman movies super kid and family friendly so that they can sell toys. Jim Carry is a great actor that would be an amazing Riddler in Chris Nolan’s Batman adaptation.
I had such high hopes for Leto’s Joker but was utterly disappointed, and never quite understood where the portrayal fell short but this explanation helps a lot. Ledger and Phoenix on the other hand are perfection.
@@vbvermont I know Leto is a phenomenal actor, but I would like to see his joker broken down. It might give us access to what he was going to eventually do.
It was too much of a rollercoaster and following was hard, so the description this man gave really makes you click what you've subconsciously felt but didn't know how to put to words. Heck yeah, he played it sooo baddddly
To be fair saw the same thing recently with Robert Pattinson being casted as batman. Being discounted because of past roles. Ledger because of playing pretty boy/lover roles and Pattinson because of twilight
Forget the critics, fans pretty much unanimously bashed Heath Ledger's casting when it was first announced. I still remember the backlash back then, it was crazy.
Nah. He did a great work, but the fact that he died changed the way some view his acting. He didn't do anything supernatural in Batman. In fact, would he have gotten the Oscar if he didn't died? Seymour Hoffman did an an amazing job that year too, so did Brolin, and the rest. I mean... Ledger didn't do anything different than them, just great acting. Joaquin on the other hand... That's masterclass.
@@disco.lemonade yeah joaquin did masterclass but it didn't mean that ledger got oscar cause he died whats wrong with u did u not see that chadwick boseman didn't get oscar cause he died and ledger acting was one of the top of its decade thats why he won not cause of any pity
@@mandyhiman436 Because Heath did a much, much... MUCH acting than Chad? Read well: he didn't win because he died, he win because he was great and because he died. Now imagine that Chad would've gotten the Oscar... another posthumous award? No, sir.
When I was a kid watching Cillian Murphy's performance as scarecrow, I was legit petrified. I don't know why I just like feel like so scared of him. I feel empathic for him. As I grow older I noticed that it's his eyes. He's very good at using his eyes and eyebrows to work for him. That man such a phenomenal actor.
It gets a lot of hate but I actually really liked Birds of Prey, it wasn't the greatest movie ever but it was really entertaining Margot Robbie is a phenomenal Actress not just as Harley Quinn but in other films she's been in too. My one complaint was I felt like Black Mask wasn't that great, I love Ewan McGregor but he just felt really odd. I know some people see the almost all Female cast and think it'll be as awful as Charlie's Angels or Ghostbusters reboots, or whatever, but they handle it in a great non cringey way like you'd automatically expect. 2 examples of a nearly entirely female cast I'd say are Suspiria remake (there's 2 men in that entire movie) or Annihilation where every Scientist sent into the Shimmer is a Woman, which I never really noticed the first time, because it doesn't cut down the Men, or make it be or focus on the gender of the characters, it lets them just be characters without caring about making a statement or making it the selling point. With Birds of Prey, when they finally come together as a team they've all got different but still similar motivation for being there, other than "we're strong independent Women" which a lot of modern day movies fail to do, being a Woman is their entire character. Sorry for the long rant I get carried away talking about movies because I just love movies too much.
It actually plays to this idea that Bane is a disfigured and hurt man... add it to the out-of-breath, painful delivery of lines, the mask and all that and you see a man that has never been able to breath fresh air or freely speak in his entire life. I don't know about you, but that would have turned me into a villain too xD
*Bane - as he catches Wayne's fists in midair, unbothered:* "Peace has cost you your strength. Victory, has defeated you." Simple, yet, menacingly true lines, to reserve that room in your opponent's mind. It was mentally all downhill from there, as Wayne began realizing he had gravely underestimated Bane. Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy will always be the best in my opinion.
He's too eloquent to be scary, imo. The choice of accent, and the insightful dialogue were too spot on and made him too predictable of a villain. "Everything Burns" vs "Peace has cost you..." Idk man, I just didn't feel anything Bane said. However there was one scene where that guy was trying to give bane orders and bane just puts his fingers on his shoulder and says "do you feel in charge." I thought that was done well. But everything the joker says in tdk was just as impressive if not better.
I was completely absorbed by belief in Joaquin Phoenix in Joker, and the entire unsettling energy of the movie still haunts me. I’ve rarely seen a movie so bleak, yet so perfect. And the fact that it all rests on _one actor’s shoulders_ - and he pulls it off *_masterfully_* - is just **chef’s kiss**
That Nolan Batman trilogy was something special. The amount of world class acting performances is just astounding. I cannot think of a more star-studded but also a more well-chosen cast for any set of movies before or since The Dark Knight trilogy.
Agree, best comic book adaptation ever. I wish warner bros would go back to the character driven deeper stories with great cast instead of trying to copy marvel and go full cgi
@@davids8127 Seriously... I never thought about the whole DC vs Marvel thing when I think about The Dark Knight trilogy. To me, the Nolan Batman movies were a tier above. They didn't and don't need to be compared to a Marvel movie because they aren't comparable. Marvel movies are about silly amounts of action and over the top displays of skill and quick wit thats becoming of a "superhero." They use their awesome power when overcoming a seemingly unbeatable enemy, that constantly one ups the last foe every single time over the course of all movies in the MCU, to become more and more comically powerful, and impossible to defeat.... It's good fun, stupid fun though. The Nolan Batman trilogy was so much more than just a bit of over the top fun that's not taken too seriously, though they certainly gave us that in just the right doses. I remember when they first came out, it didn't matter how many times I'd seen them, any movie in the trilogy this applies to, if one came on television I was going to sit down and watch it. Period. And it was exciting every time, it was a good night when I was watching batman. Everything about those movies was great. It was just an undisputed fact that you knew didn't need argued to anyone, because they knew it too. They had so much atmosphere, inspired so much emotion. Every single performance was world class, everyone from Tom Hardy's Bane, to Christian Bales Batman, Scarecrow, Harvey Dent, Gordon, Alfred of course, and Morgan Freeman... No he didn't play anyone in the movie...Morgan Freeman plays Morgan Freeman, and that's the only character Morgan Freeman acts out! I don't even NEED mention the legendary, monumental performance, Heath Ledger gifted to all of us as The Joker... Standing tall throughout the test of time, but not untouched by the tragedy of his death, shortly thereafter. This just adds even more to the emotion, and the nostalgia it delivers though! Heath Ledgers last fully completed role... To add to that, there's a mystique, and a darkness that surrounds the whole thing, what with people saying that Ledger had to put himself into such a horrific headspace to produce this treasure of a performance for us, that's what caused him to end up dying tragically of a drug overdose much too young. All of those rumors, whether true or not, definitely contribute to the overall legend of Nolan's Batman films. .... I think that.... I love The Dark Knight trilogy more than I realized I did until this moment. I hadn't even thought of the movies in a decade... I should watch them again. Yeah, I should do that... I think I will.
@@danielnelson4881 I agree, I didnt compare them I think they way above the typical blockbuster style, I meant about the recent series with Justice league etc, they wanted to replicate what marvel did which they failed miserably. And yes that timelessness what makes the Nolan trilogy, I dont know how many times I saw the Dark knight but it always gave me new way of appreciacion for some details or brilliant dialogue. Its going down as one of all time best trilogy for me the Lord of the rings is the first because its an epic adventure throughout but Dark knight remains ine of my all time favorutie movie. I dont think anyone come close to it for long time as Nolan kinda made his own genra with his take.
Cillian is just an AMAZING actor in everything he does. He has amazing facial expressions which he learned to tie it to inflections in his voice which really gives his characters a new dimension that people become enthralled to watch. Ledger set the bar so incredibly high for the joker it will literally take decades before someone else can fill his shoes.
@@turtleislandlac1490 a few months ago I would’ve scoffed at the idea of Lillian as the bat, now that I’m 3 seasons into peaky blinders that opinion has definitely changed
Tom Hardy's Bane was menacing in a incredible and realistic way. His voice, his eyes, all showing the focus and danger of the character. Perfect acting.
Out of these I have to say my favorites are: Tom Hardy (Bane ist my favorite Batman Villain and He captured his intelligente and anti Batman like character perfect) Jack Nicholson (The OG theatre Joker, absolutely brilliant performance) Dany DeVito (been a while since I actually watched the movie but I really liked his portrayal) Heath Ledger (Best Joker performance hands down. He is *the* Joker)
Heath was great at whatever character he was playing, but one thing I'll say is that character was not the joker. The joker is completely insane to the point of defying any diagnostic criteria and is just completely unpredictable whereas with heath I always got the vibe he is in full control of his faculties and he's just going to very extreme measures to prove a point. On a separate note I agree tom hardy absolutely crushed it as bane and devito played the sad misfit element of penguin perfectly given his origin in that movie and as for jack his performance was just a chefs kiss from start to finish.
@@ashspinks9529 Fair enough but that's maybe why I like Heaths version of the Joker so much. Sure the real Joker is just this insane maniac who has No respect for life other than be it for his amusement. There's just something about the speculative and cold Heath Joker that fascinates me.
@@waveburner1254 yeah I agree his performance is captivating and worthy of all the praise but if I was to rank the best jokers heath wouldn't be listed because at no point did I feel like I was seeing the joker in that performance
I agree with most everything that was said, only for the part when he’s breaking down that last scene with Pfeiffer’s Catwoman. He says we see too much Selena Kyle. I thought that was the whole point. In that scene, as she’s about to get killed my Max Shreck, a guy who had victimized her previously, the vulnerable, nervous Kyle comes out, only for the Catwoman persona to resurface when she delivers the line “how about a kiss, santy claus?” You can even hear it in the change of tone in her voice, I thought it was brilliant.
I completely agree. Just wrote a comment saying the same. Apart from his "analysis" of her character arc being way off imo in terms of logistics she had to get close him in order to kill him. If she jumped up he would have just unloaded on her.
Now I thought it was either too many bullets too quickly or more likely she was acting like Selena to get in close enough to kill him with the weapons she had. Only to reveal herself as Catwoman right before the death kiss. Beautiful acting.
I went to Dark Knight to watch it in Imax, expecting yet another decent action movie. I can honestly say that I have NEVER been blown away by a performance of a supposed supporting actor like I was by Ledger's. It is so rare for a single character to take over a movie, but Heath did it.
Heath ledgers performance is so good in "The Dark Knight" that every single time I watch it, I become convinced that he is going to do something completely different than the last time I watched it.
When Cillian Murphy sighed and took off his glasses during the scene with Falcone, I got chills down my spine and knew something horrible was about to happen.
@@cplcoen I believe that the best thing that Bale ever did was Empire of the Sun, which is his first movie. After that, not so much. He’s just not a very good actor. The same goes for George Clooney. Any good movie either has been in was good in spite of them and never because of them.
Why Pheonix was so believably in pain because he in part was: both the physical strain he put on himself to make him slim and boney, to the mental preparation, during the filming of that film he never had a break for one second. That's true dedication
There’s prep for a role, like research getting into the character, losing or gaining weight. Then there’s going too far with isolating and injuring yourself and I Jared Leto’s case send dead animals and used condoms to cast mates, that behavior is inappropriate and possibly illegal, and the isolation and harm is very unhealthy. You don’t need to do that at all to get a good performance.
The reason I loved Christopher Nolan’s Dark nights series was because it had such a dark, but realistic/humanistic tone and it was so powerful. Heath ledger did a perfect job exemplifying that.
I appreciate how it creates such a modern feel too. Even the soundtrack with those drums. that Gotham architecture is so clean to me, like the shot behind Joker’s back with the mask at the start of TDK looks so crisp and nice
The DCEU has been trying to copy/capture the Nolan trilogy’s magic ever since and they will only continue to make themselves look foolish. The “closest” they’ve gotten is with Phillips’ Joker film because instead of trying to copy/capture what Nolan did, they allowed the director (and lead actor) to make something unique and their own. I mean, for all intents and purposes, Joker is just a deep dive into one man’s descent into madness; appreciating and mourning his loss of innocence; his final surrender to his psychological disease. But yes: Heath Ledger will continue to be the best Joker, followed by Nicholson, and finally Phoenix/Hamill closely behind
@@IloveElsaofArendelle actually I don't know if I'd go as far as to say he's not a good actor but the way he went about portraying the joker was dogshit.
I’ve always enjoyed the way Cillian is such a veteran actor and it disappoints me when he’s looked over by the few that do sleep on him. He does what so many actors can’t. He’s like an instrument in a way that at sometimes the instrument can “sing” without actually hearing audible lyrics. His eyes and breathe control and body mannerisms are so exceptional and second to none. I rarely watch actors who can run a whole scene purely off body movement and facial expression while using little to no dialogue at all. But Cillian kills it. Really shows power, patience, control and endless practice. Shoes a lot about his personal character as well. He must be a very observing person rather than a talker. Bc Keanue reeves and ppl similar are more quiet guys but man John wicks monotone and saturated character write is done so well by Reeves in the same acting fashion Cillian specializes in
Heath ledger in my eyes will probably always be the best Joker, he nailed the role to perfection & is exactly how I see Joker. I loved Joaquin phoenix's Joker too but for different reasons but I feel heath ledger's Joker is unmatched. I do love mark Hamil's Joker from the games & animated series, his voice is too iconic to not mention him.
Joaquin Phoenix in my eyes will probably always be the best Joker, he nailed the role to perfection & is exactly how I see Joker. I loved Heath Ledger’s joker too but for different reasons I feel Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker is unmatched.
@@theriddler482 that's because of the standard that heath had set... I mean when it comes to pretext of most accuracy to comics along with instilling a chilling and unforgettable performance that heath pioneered for this character
Cillian Murphy scared me and made me really believe he is the scarecrow. Such an underrated actor, and he always perfect in his role. Even in Inception he was just amazing and I don't have to mention 28 Days Later.
Cillian is criminally underrated! I'm so glad you included Scarecrow in this collection because he played him so beautifully. If you haven't yet seen Cillian's diverse body of work i highly implore you to take a gander. You won't be disappointed- he gives his life to every character, even his small part in Dunkirk. For him, it's always about the script and great writing before anything else :')
@@edwardboland4015 He plays a shell-shocked soldier. Cillian was on the lifeboat and somehow ended up stranded in the middle of the sea, probably the ship that the lifeboat was trying to get to was struck and he was the only one to survive.
I still remember reading about one where he’s a, say, pizza delivery boy that gets caught up in a series of misadventures via Lucy Liu. Can’t remember what it’s called, tho.
@@alivia9691 Its simple,both actors are not comparable because of their different methods,voice etc joaquins joker is full on fresh wounds and a newbie on becoming a joker with not much experience and some little compassion in him(sparing the dwarf guy) while heaths joker is a more veteran and insane/intimidating used to pain one
It’s a weird take on Two Face to me. Two Face was a villain that above all cared about duality, chance, and of fate. Obviously there have been a ton of different takes on the characters over the decades but I guess for me while ultimately I think Two Face would always honor the outcome of the flip of his coin, there seems like nothing other than stone cold killer in Eckhart’s performance. While maybe it’s not necessary to the plot progression in The Dark Knight I would have liked a scene where Two Face struggles emotionally with the reality of his own duality. While it’s clear that Two Face is a chance-leads- directly-to-fate persona than Harvey Dent is at any point, it would be nice to have seen more internal emotional struggle than something so one sided.
He gives a great performance expressing the duality of Harvey Dent. You can watch him slowly slip as the movie goes on and ultimately succumb to his dark side. His performance was great because he had to play two polar opposite roles.
Considering that one of Penguin's iconic lines in Batman Returns is "I'm an animal!!!", if you say Devito's take lacks humanity well I would say that he is portraying the character exactly as Burton wanted, and so Burton is more to blame for that particular take on the character. I actually like the depiction (even though it varies from the source material) and did feel that Penguin's death - along with the penguins as the unofficial 'casket bearers' - was one of the scenes with the most pathos in the film.
@@miguelthekewlkid272 Other than a few niche cases, like Robin Williams' more successful movies or some of Johnny Depp's blockbusters, the actor almost never has much of a say. My guess is this acting coach is the type who thinks everyone plays in their own self-directed one-man-show to Standing-Room Only empty closets like he did.
I always liked Christopher Walker’s Max Shreck in that film, too. It might come across a bit campy, but I found his sneering and apathy very effective.
yes, and Anthony recognised that. Said that Devito just had to pick that up and run with it. That movie was just awful anyways... The only one of Burton's takes on Batman (or any of the live action Batman movies in the 90s) that really worked was the first one with Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson. The rest were kinda painful.
Scarecrow/Cillian doesn't have the presence of Ledger's Joker or Hardy's Bane. He's intimidating, but he doesn't steal the room the way those guys did.
Seriously. Such a massive missed opportunity. He finally got the recognition deserved from Peaky Blinders getting popular, but with a better character in Batman, he would’ve been recognized much sooner.
@@jamesjohnston1297 Thank Nolan for that. It’s not Cillian’s fault that the script was bad. Unlike the other movies’ villains, Scarecrow doesn’t have much screen time. Less than 10 minutes.
@@gabrielgoncalves2763 What!? Her acting was great and what was required for a Tim Burton Batman universe. She basically stole every scene she was in. And jeez, you gave yourself a thumbs up.
I love Cillian Murphy, as a comic book reader he did amazing for scarecrow, he's a very underrated celebrity and he's one of my favorites. I'm going to rewatch Batman Begins now 😂
@@crobeastness a lot of people I talk to only mention the Dark Knight or the Dark Knight Rises. I guess that is just anecdotal evidence so maybe there are a lot of people who think Batman Begins is the best. I just don't hear it very often. I definitely like Batman Begins though!
Heath Ledger's Joker scares me more than any other villain, ever. Every single time he was onscreen I literally feared for my life, and I was sitting on my couch. THAT is acting.
@@vdoggydogg3922 Yeah. That was the whole point of the...you know what? There's not point in explaining things to people who just don't understand humor.
Tom Hardy's Bane is my favorite and seriously deserves more credit. Heath Ledger's Joker will forever be legendary, there's no arguments there. But selling this menacing force of fear and darkness and how much he intimidated Batman on his first encounter and his monologue on the differences between him and Bruce on their use of Darkness was just amazing. The Joker's lines made you think about his perspective of society but Bane absolutely haunted you on what real fear and real torture and darkness really was and just his delivery of his monologue sends chills up my spine every single time like "oh no. You're in my element now. And there is nothing comfortable or safe about it."
Something I've always loved about TDKR's Bane is the voice. It would have been such an easy decision to give him a deep, guttural tone, to try and force initimidation out of him, but just like with the soft hand touch scene that was dissected in the video, his voice being so... thin, higher pitched, thematically mis-matched to Bane's physical appearance, it used contrast to fantastic effect.
What would of made bane even better is if they somehow made him look weaker or skinnier then return to natural when he uses his juice 💪🏽 they could of used cgi but I’m glad they didn’t
Going after him for 10 minutes of screen time in a movie heavily reshot and rewritten by executives who wanted a dark film to be more like Deadpool? I don’t think shallow is the right word to describe Leto then, but maybe, you?
@@juliansanchezharris5773 ok sure, you’re calling the directing and writing bad too when you didn’t even see the director’s final product is really what I’m getting at here. Judge the final performance and movie when it’s put together by the director, not the studio. Then I’ll entertain these conversations.
@@jacobaarum I don't mistrust that fact. I trust that it would have been Way better if outer parties didn't interfere. That said. Leto's way of acting was his own decision. He had the freedom to put His touch on the Joker and he did it... the co-actors clarified that. Knowing this, the ACTING itself was not convincing enough or wellmade. It felt forced and it was less sociopathical while being aware that he was a sociopath, and more of a teenager that Wanted to be cool and sociopathical at the same time. He tried but also failed as an actor in this movie, with or without the reasons you mentioned.
I didn't see the whole film, but I agree. I also think (unless she actually did the somersaults, which is still in her favor) she gets credit for Catwoman being out of breath.
Yeah. She did everything right in that performance. I think DeVito's Pengun was great too. They both delivered what was required in the best possible way, maybe even better. The only thing off about that movie was the script. Too much of it was just silly and unrelatable (aside from the origins and lines of Penguin and Catwoman), and as a result the movie has aged badly, especially when compared to the first one. None of this is down to those 2 actors, who I think carried the film.
Yes, to me the most mindblowing thing about Tom's performance is that almost his entire face is covered with that mask thing and yet he managed to deliver this incredible acting using his eyes, voice and body language.
I think because the acting coach wanted to mention something new. During the press tour promoting the movie, Hardy and Nolan would keep mentioning his eye acting.
@@vishalchidambaram1064 I'm saying I think the dark Knight is the 3rd best DC movie and better than every MCU movie. I prefer batman begins and the dark Knight returns deluxe (which is just both part 1 & 2 together). That's what I'm talking about.
I agree that the riddler was too “Jim Carey” and too theatrical, but I always assumed they cast him for that reason. I’m guessing the director wanted it that way
In a movie that was specifically suppose to be campy, he restrained himself more than you'd expect from Jim Carrey. At least when he was Nygma. I feel like he still did the best in that movie.
Leto's performance felt so forced and contrived...like he was playing a character impersonating a character. There was no conviction in anything he did - it felt like a very phoney-crazy front, like what you see someone do during a police interrogation when they're trying to convince the detectives that they're insane and not at fault for whatever crime they committed.
@Springs & Sprockets We don't know if what we saw was real Maybe he just told a fake story :shrug: If it isn't the case, I DON'T CARE ! THE JOKER IS A CRIMINAL CLOWN THAT BLOWS UP THINGS, MAN. IF YOU'RE A FAN OF LEDGER, OK. BUT DON'T BE A HARDCORE FAN THAT DENIES A NEW JOKER
@Springs & Sprockets Actually, This version of Joker is not designed to be a villain at all. They just used Joker as a medium to tell a story. This version of Joker wouldn't be in any Batman or other films, it's just one needed story told through Joker as an origin story.
That breakdown on Joaquin in the bathroom was...spectacular. I watched that film three times and I never would have thought about that bathroom scene as a metamorphosis.
I’d be interested in a breakdown of the performances of the actors who played Batman. Bale, Affleck, Conroy, Keaton, etc. Ideally, after The Batman comes out so we can get Pattinson too.
Michael Keaton was the best for me. He didn't need black eyes and just spoke with enough bass tone to disguise his voice. All the rest overplayed the batman roles. Going back to the TV series , a blind man could tell you who batman and robin were......
I enjoy Christian, Kevin, and Michael’s performances as Batman/Bruce Wayne most. And I can’t wait to see the new Batman movie! I have a feeling I’m going to enjoy it and Robert’s portrayal. And others too.
After seeing the latest batman I think Pattinson does the bruce wayne part better. You saw more of the kid that lost his parents instead of the guy with money. Bale was awesome but I gotta give this one to pattinson
I think all the actors have brought something to distinguish themselves from the rest and that’s why opinions on who the best is vary so much. Btw, Pattinson is my favorite.
I love that you can see fear, chaos, and pain (respectively) in Cillian, Heath, and Tom's performances since that's what each of their characters stood for. All three of them really knocked it out of the park. 🦇
Heath Ledger, Joaquin Phoenix, Cillian Murphy and Tom Hardy were all BRILLIANT. Props to Christopher Nolan too, 3 villians out of his 3 batman movies gave legendary performances!
Cameron Monaghan's Joker from Gotham is hands down my favourite. I know he had a lot more to work with in terms of time for a story line because it was a TV series, but that also made it more like the comics.
He was fantastic in the show although I never understood why they were not allowed to actually call him the joker, I mean I know it was to do with licensing but they licensed literally every other f***ing character from the batman universe why not him? Lol I did enjoy their work arounds with it like Jeremiah referring to himself as "j no Jack no Joe" in reference to his aliases mistah j, Jack white and Joseph kerr
I will never forget how incredible that dinner party scene is from The Dark Knight. When he came out of the elevator none of the other actors there had seen Heath Ledger in costume before, and he always did his own makeup. Michael Cain had a line there that he actually forgot to say, and Maggie Gyllenhaal said he was legitimately terrifying. Heath Ledger literally 'stole' the scene, leaving the others speechless and in shock just from the sight of him.
Overhyped sensationalised horseshit. Everyone on set knows its all make believe. No one was legit terrified. They were acting and overhyping a performance to sell a movie and praise Heaths legacy
@@bboyg1 Yeah yeah, go ahead and say "Not really". Theres still more great ratings for Joaquin other then "Legendary", So it doesn't matters if you wanna say his Legendary or not
Danny DeVito's performance was iconic. Truly tragic. Someone using a "monstrous" performance to hide the torture he'd endured as a child. The performances in Batman Returns are very underrated all around.
it's weird how he is so in tune with the building of a villainous persona as a defense mechanism with other characters but he lets the fact that it's not the "right" penguin get in the way of his evaluation of danny devito lol
DeVitos performance was spot on for what the screen writer wanted. was it true to penguins origin, no. but they wanted him to be a monster like for their interpretation of the Penguin.
@@toadsprout Yes! Exactly. So many dismiss Batman Returns because it's not a pure Batman interpretation. I say, where's the fun in that? Batman Returns is my favorite Batman movie BECAUSE of the risks it took, and because of the fresh, original interpretations. Especially with Penguin!
@@eddiegodat8263 Yep! For the story they were telling, DeVito's performance was very compelling. You felt sorry for him, and had a bit of a soft spot for him, and yet, you hated him at the exact same time. That's not easy to pull off as an actor!
I hated his remarks on it..Penguin in the early comics was a 2-bit robber that had little to no nuance or anything remarkable...Danny DeVito truly raised Penguin to a new level. Id even say the Animated Batman series did the same with Mister Freeze. What once was a generic villain of the week gimmick, was turned into art, tragic and exuding emotion. But nah, let's be biased because it's not comic book accurate....
Eartha was largely considered an acquired taste until that role. People that didn't really like the show or her style tuned in and raved. Brilliant casting and a great performance.
I just disagree with the penguin observation. I think Danny did amazing and it was done on purpose by Tim Burton. Danny’s portrayal of penguin is one of a kind like Heath’s joker.
And neither are the true interpretations of the comics, so he celebrates one and berates the other. He also ignores that this was never intended to be the classic and ignored putting that on the producer even though he did that for a few others who did far worse w/what they were given(Mr. Freeze/Two Face/Poison Ivy).
What also makes Heath Ledger's Joker so great, was that you felt he was making his stories up, but the way he told them part of you felt there was some truth to it. A phenomenal performance by an actor who left us so young.
His acting was good, honestly. He just let the fact that they did Penguin totally wrong get in the way of his judgement. That was the director's/writer's jobs to get right. DeVito just brought their vision to life, and did a damn good job in doing so. But I will agree with him that they screwed up Penguin and did his character terribly. DeVito could've played a great Penguin that was faithful to the source, not this hideous, unnecessary monstrosity.
The death scene of Catwoman was exactly that, her death. She's ceasing to be Catwoman and becoming Selena Kyle again, hence the staggering and collapsing, since Selena Kyle is already dead.
Would have love to have seen more villain development and exposition with the new riddler. I felt cheated out of a great performance from Paul dano. Too much cat woman and penguin.
@@deed2466 The creepy part is is that he looks so innocent and sweet even though he was capable of such destruction, which is kinda true to a lot of ppl tdy
I mostly agree. But I think Devito’s penguin is underrated, he embraced being labeled a monster but he at heart was a orphaned child who was never really a threat to anyone.
absolutely the penguin was an awesome performance and his death was meant to be tragic, not threatening. it was more sad, where I even felt myself feeling sorry for him, even though I hated him most of the movie.
Heath's Joker was unique and awe inspiring. No one oozed menace the way Jack did (I mean, of course, it's Jack). But Joaquin was the only Joker I not only rooted for, but cried for.
I thought his comments about him coming to full realization and freedom in the bathroom was spot on. I felt that in that exact moment. I was like here he is...😬
yeah, you're not supposed to root or cry for the Joker though. That character wasn't the Joker, you could have named the movie "sad clown" and it would have been the same
His performance was not the riddler dude,i love different takes on comic book characters like the penguin from batman returns but the difference between how the penguin was overhauled and how riddler was overhauled is that one worked,the other sucked and was so much worse than the source material.
I love they Heath says stuff that almost doesn’t make sense at the time even if i thought about it I couldn’t pin point it, it’s really methodical and only he can portray it. Heath did a phenomenal job of portraying a crazy person whilst still being extremely intelligent.
Tom Hardy’s portrayal of Bane is one of my favourite villain performances in a movie. He was well spoken and absolutely terrifying. He (and we as fans) know that Bane isn’t threatened or intimidated by Batman and Hardy bring this to the table.
I just wish they'd given us the actual Bane rather than a catspaw with a wildly different backstory. That said, I don't think Hardy could have pulled off a South American accent and he did an excellent job of playing the character he was given. It just wasn't Bane from the comics in any form.
@@Vherstinae I don’t think actual would have worked. He’s not realistic like the rest of the characters are in this trilogy. (With the exception of Ra’s)
@@Vherstinae you would need perfect casting, perfect performances from that cast and perfect directing for that, probably one best left to the pages of graphic novels like the broken bat saga
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I'm glad he gave scarecrow the justice he deserves. Cillian Murphy is a master at acting as johnathan Crane. He didn't even need a mask to be a good foe, he still would have made the same impact on me.
Same! He’s one of my favorite actors and Scarecrow is one of my favorite Batman villains. (Love all the Batman villains)
He’s really amazing at playing Scarecrow aka Dr. Jonathan Crane.
Plus he’s hot. 😍
@@jennikifm2 yeah a hot guy plus the best batman villain of all time. Perfect fit.
He did a good job on mr robot too
Yup..I love the part where he first sprayed Batman with his Gas and set him on fire saying he needs to lighten up.
Agreed, very underrated
I'm glad someone finally gave Cillian Murphy's Scarecrow the recognition and justice he deserves
he's insanly talented
Very true! So glad an expert has dissected and appreciated the brilliance in Cillian's acting, and the depth he gives to the character he plays, like The Scarecrow. He understands the assignment! Such a great actor and he deserves such praises. 🌟🙌🏻🌟
yess omg
@@alwaysaishy i couldnt agree more maan!;) he hit the role realy good. in real life i wouldnt mess with body like that. he may be nerdy. but hes very dangeris. im glad they pick him for the role. it fits him!;)
Cilian Murphy is just unbelievably good
Tom Hardy’s Bane is underrated. He had to follow up on Heath which isn’t fair but he actually killed that role
He's my favorite villain. That voice. So distinct and really threatening. I couldn't believe it was the same guy that played the villain in Star Trek Nemeses.
Plus he truly brought alive the fact that bane isn’t just some brute with strength. He’s highly skilled and even more intelligent which was brought out by his tone
Bane was actually my first time seeing Tom Hardy's performance of any kind, so when he later showed in other movies like Mad Max and so fourth, he looked totally unrecognizable, he's a great actor, though i dont think he was the perfect choice for Venom though, he was still good with what was given to him
Poor role. Heard it had its back broken. Lol!
@@thisbubblygoodness7611 same
I absolutely LOVED Heath Ledger's Joker. I was amazed that Joaquin Phoenix was able to portray his Joker in such a . . . relatable manner. It truly shocked me how much you could empathize with a character who is supposed to be a murderous psychopath.
Joaquin portrayed a metamorphosis and that's very hard to pull off. I think WB should gradually complete the transformation in another solo film. It would definetly bank in another billion.
It's so weird to think that Joaquin's joker wasn't a real person, that this whole thing was a performance. Just... how?
i dont believe anyone else could have followed in HL footsteps - and elevated that character - but JP. that film easily could have been ridiculed forever but it was a gem for sure.
That is Slander.
Joker only "appears" to be a Murdering Psychopath. He is actually hyper Intelligent and Logical. ... his "Goal" may be horrible, his "Method" may be disturbing. .. .. .. but he -isnt- crazy.
He just lives in a world where (as they say in Forever):: where 'right' and 'wrong' no longer exist, but have been replaced with 'fun' and 'boring'
Being an "average citizen" is boring ... blowing up a hospital, however.
@@ChurchNietzsche Objection. Hearsay.
Heath Ledger constantly licking his lips in The Dark Knight supposedly was actually a "side effect" from the prosthetic scars he had on his face. Apparently Nolan liked it and chose to leave it in.
yeah, heard/ read somewhere that the edges of the prosthetic kept coming off, so he licked it to stick it back on. Became a habit and looked good on film.
Yes, he had to lick the scar prosthetic to keep it on because it kept drying out and it coincidentally worked as a successful quirk of the character
I actually read that Ledger started doing it to give his Joker a tic
@@faffywhosmilesatdeath5953 Something to do with his voice, I believe he used to get dry lips doing the voice, truthfully it's probably a combination of form and function
Really? I never knew that... Well it suited the character very well.
Heath Ledger: does something
Acting coaches: write that down
Jared Leto: does something
Acting Coach: don't do that
😂
@@Rdc_Dom Coach: "write that down"
Me: "Oh he did something good?"
Coach: "Make sure the next actor doesn't do that."
I’m not gonna lie that might be the greatest performance of all-time... Heath literally BLEW me away. Rivals DDL’s performances
He had won an Oscar award
Really not just a great performance as the Joker. Just a great performance. I heard Heath Ledger worked with a voice coach for months perfecting his Joker voice, and his laugh.
Heath Ledger as The Joker will always be legendary 🙌
There will probably be an argument in the replies but Heath ledger is the best joker probably someone will be better than him you don’t know Heath ledger joker is a masterpiece
He is one of the best jokers but Jack Nicholson joker is a little better
@@I_am_currently_chill I think they were both great for different reasons. Both movies had different types of production behind it. Tim Burton is kinda cooky so Jack worked well for that vision. And The Dark Knight series was well...dark. And Heath played that well.
yawn
God I remember when that movie hadnt even come out yet and Ledger’s death was on the news making the film legendary before it even hit theaters. I think I saw that movie in theaters so many times on imax to experience its awesomeness
0:41 Suicide Squad (2016), Jared Leto (Joker)
2:44 Batman Beggins (2005), Cillian Murphy (Scarecrow)
5:11 Batman TV Show (1967), Eartha Kitt (Catwoman)
6:39 Batman and Robin (1997), Uma Thurman (Poison Ivy)
8:42 Batman (1989), Jack Nicholson (Joker)
9:58 Suicide Squad (2016), Margot Robbie (Harley Quinn)
11:37 Batman Returns (1992), Danny DeVito (Penguin)
13:13 Joker (2019), Joaquin Phoenix
15:44 Batman Forever (1995), Jim Carey (Riddler)
17:15 What we came here for
I love how you said what we came here for, knowing you were right
Thank you boss
thank you
cheers big man
Cillian Murphy is a world class actor. Same with Tom Hardy and Heath Ledger. Simply amazing and inspiring
Jack Nicholson
The whole Dark Knight trilogy was packed with talent. Amazing cast Christian Bale, Michael Cane, Gary Oldman, Cillian Murphy, Morgan Freeman, Tom Hardy, Heath Ledger, Liam Neeson and many more. One of the all time greatest composers in Hans Zimmer and the pure brilliance of Christopher Nolan.
@@bloodaonadeline8346 well jack nicholson doesnt really fit in that category of actors. The man is literally like top 10 greatest actors of all time so he's a little more than world class
He was originally going to play Batman/Bruce Wayne, but Christian Bale was the better actor for that role. Murphy did such a good job though, even they recognized letting him go would be a waste, and that's how he got the role as the Scarecrow
@Repent!. repent to My mom
Cillian Murphy is so underrated.. a very humble man too.
Additionally: if anyone likes Cillian Murphy and hasn't seen his little thriller film with Rachel McAdams called Red Eye, you should watch it. His entire performance carries that movie.
Moral of this entire video: The Christopher Nolan Batman had good villains
And Irish
I absolutely loved Batman Begins and feel that it tends to get overlooked a lot because of the other movies.. which is not a fault at all of Dark Knight because it's so good.. but I wish people would go back and really see to appreciate it as much.. same for Rises.. Nolan really knocked it out of the park with the trilogy..
Anyone that isn't watching Peaky Blinders is missing out. Every episode is a master class in acting by Murphy
Red eye was super good
I think Jim Carrey now, 26 years later,, would be a much better Riddler. He's older, darker and less theatrical but still has that playfulness that's needed for the character.
Right? I feel like at the era in his life when making the movie he was chosen for his enthusiasm, so if anything the producers are the ones to blame for getting this kind of great actor who didn't have that range yet.
or the gotham riddler hes really good
The director of that film fucked it up, not Jim.
Ya i think it had more to do with the producers of the films..wanted to make those Batman movies super kid and family friendly so that they can sell toys. Jim Carry is a great actor that would be an amazing Riddler in Chris Nolan’s Batman adaptation.
I mean he's proved himself an all-time great with _Truman Show_ and _Eternal Sunshine._
I like how with Heath ledgers joker makeup doesn’t always look like it gets replaced immediately and like it’s fading but still very visible
I had such high hopes for Leto’s Joker but was utterly disappointed, and never quite understood where the portrayal fell short but this explanation helps a lot. Ledger and Phoenix on the other hand are perfection.
I still would have like to see Jared Leto acting breakdown here.
He should be playing jesus instead
@@saturncrush He’s a good actor, IMO; Dallas Buyers Club was one of his best roles. I would like an acting breakdown too.
@@vbvermont I know Leto is a phenomenal actor, but I would like to see his joker broken down. It might give us access to what he was going to eventually do.
It was too much of a rollercoaster and following was hard, so the description this man gave really makes you click what you've subconsciously felt but didn't know how to put to words. Heck yeah, he played it sooo baddddly
Ledger was simply on another level in that role. So many critics preemptively judged him and they were embarrassed after he stole the screen.
To be fair saw the same thing recently with Robert Pattinson being casted as batman. Being discounted because of past roles. Ledger because of playing pretty boy/lover roles and Pattinson because of twilight
He has more screen time than batman in a batman movie. He was born for that role.
Same thing happened to Daniel Craig before the release of Casino Royale. The moral lesson is, give them a chance to see what they'll do.
Forget the critics, fans pretty much unanimously bashed Heath Ledger's casting when it was first announced. I still remember the backlash back then, it was crazy.
@@riseofazrael Yeah, people have selective memory. It was more the fans than critics bashing him.
Moral of this entire video: The Christopher Nolan Batman had good villains
Yup. Ummatched.
Yeah. Incredible casting. My man nolan knows his people.
Not with Talia al Ghul tho. She's horrible.
@@umarabdaziz760 I completely forgot about her. I guess that should say something.
@@umarabdaziz760 We can forget about her
The dude that played Two Face in Dark knight is heavily slept on….his performance was amazing as two face and no one is talking about it
BEST LIVE ACTION TWO FACE!!
WAY better than Tommy Lee Jones’ Two Face
@@jennikifm2 not hard to beat at all lol
@@howardhamlin3114 still incredible acting
Meh…it was ok, but nothing too special
Eckhart was 🔥🔥🔥🔥
What about Aaron Eckhart. No one EVER talks about him, that really bothers me.
Who he?
@@elisabethalkhaledova1774 Harvey Dent
Oh man he delivery of line "Look at me" in the hospital to Gordon , made me shiver. Underrated guy!
Agreed
tbh i liked him better than the joker. I just LOVED the ending scene where he takes Gordons kids hostage. the dialogue was so good and the acting too
Ledgers performance was once in a lifetime. He made that movie one of the best ever.
RIP
Heath Ledger
😔
Couldn't agree more...
Nah. He did a great work, but the fact that he died changed the way some view his acting. He didn't do anything supernatural in Batman. In fact, would he have gotten the Oscar if he didn't died? Seymour Hoffman did an an amazing job that year too, so did Brolin, and the rest. I mean... Ledger didn't do anything different than them, just great acting. Joaquin on the other hand... That's masterclass.
@@disco.lemonade yeah joaquin did masterclass but it didn't mean that ledger got oscar cause he died whats wrong with u did u not see that chadwick boseman didn't get oscar cause he died and ledger acting was one of the top of its decade thats why he won not cause of any pity
@@mandyhiman436 Because Heath did a much, much... MUCH acting than Chad? Read well: he didn't win because he died, he win because he was great and because he died. Now imagine that Chad would've gotten the Oscar... another posthumous award? No, sir.
Having the joker as heath ledger was one of the best decisions ever period.
Absolutely
But the role killed him so no
@@shivanshsinghal5382 Those are stories.
@@shivanshsinghal5382 no
And everyone said he was the worst
When I was a kid watching Cillian Murphy's performance as scarecrow, I was legit petrified. I don't know why I just like feel like so scared of him. I feel empathic for him. As I grow older I noticed that it's his eyes. He's very good at using his eyes and eyebrows to work for him. That man such a phenomenal actor.
His performance, along with the actor who played Falcone are criminally underrated! Both actors did great jobs in BB
I really did enjoy Margot Robbie’s Harley. Just hated the movie as a whole
I thought suicide squad was alright I didn't really like birds of prey that much
I loved her performance in birds of prey
"AlL mY fRiEnDs ArE hEaThEnS tAkE iT sLoW"
Yea now I can’t see anyone else as Harley, she’s an amazing Harley. Too bad her movies aren’t good
It gets a lot of hate but I actually really liked Birds of Prey, it wasn't the greatest movie ever but it was really entertaining Margot Robbie is a phenomenal Actress not just as Harley Quinn but in other films she's been in too. My one complaint was I felt like Black Mask wasn't that great, I love Ewan McGregor but he just felt really odd. I know some people see the almost all Female cast and think it'll be as awful as Charlie's Angels or Ghostbusters reboots, or whatever, but they handle it in a great non cringey way like you'd automatically expect. 2 examples of a nearly entirely female cast I'd say are Suspiria remake (there's 2 men in that entire movie) or Annihilation where every Scientist sent into the Shimmer is a Woman, which I never really noticed the first time, because it doesn't cut down the Men, or make it be or focus on the gender of the characters, it lets them just be characters without caring about making a statement or making it the selling point.
With Birds of Prey, when they finally come together as a team they've all got different but still similar motivation for being there, other than "we're strong independent Women" which a lot of modern day movies fail to do, being a Woman is their entire character.
Sorry for the long rant I get carried away talking about movies because I just love movies too much.
Fun fact: Tom Hardy’s line “that’s a lovely lovely voice” was spur of the moment. The director loved it and kept it in the movie.
It actually plays to this idea that Bane is a disfigured and hurt man... add it to the out-of-breath, painful delivery of lines, the mask and all that and you see a man that has never been able to breath fresh air or freely speak in his entire life. I don't know about you, but that would have turned me into a villain too xD
Tom hardy was the perfect person to play bane
@@YouMakeMyMotorRun how fair to look at it from that point if view.
Jesus Christ loves you
@@ben2808 Amen!
*Bane - as he catches Wayne's fists in midair, unbothered:* "Peace has cost you your strength. Victory, has defeated you."
Simple, yet, menacingly true lines, to reserve that room in your opponent's mind. It was mentally all downhill from there, as Wayne began realizing he had gravely underestimated Bane.
Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy will always be the best in my opinion.
"I was born in the dark, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man."
Brilliance all around. Tom did Heath justice.
He's too eloquent to be scary, imo.
The choice of accent, and the insightful dialogue were too spot on and made him too predictable of a villain. "Everything Burns" vs "Peace has cost you..." Idk man, I just didn't feel anything Bane said.
However there was one scene where that guy was trying to give bane orders and bane just puts his fingers on his shoulder and says "do you feel in charge." I thought that was done well. But everything the joker says in tdk was just as impressive if not better.
Damn... Bane really talked like a well-rounded Sith Lord with those Dark Knight Rises lines
@@VonJay Hardy had a less understandable accent at first but they made him change it. I think it was more intimidating
I was completely absorbed by belief in Joaquin Phoenix in Joker, and the entire unsettling energy of the movie still haunts me. I’ve rarely seen a movie so bleak, yet so perfect. And the fact that it all rests on _one actor’s shoulders_ - and he pulls it off *_masterfully_* - is just **chef’s kiss**
He doesn’t get enough recognition, he’s a fantastic actor. I forget that he’s playing a part when he’s on screen!
Watch taxi driver then. Joker is extremely similar to it.
Every time I see Joaquin Phoenix I wonder how much we’ve missed with River dying.
@@OoxB505yes, Joaquin completely disappears into his characters.
So props for using milo as your avatar. Atlantis is my 2nd favorite Disney movie. The emperors new groove is my top.
That Nolan Batman trilogy was something special. The amount of world class acting performances is just astounding. I cannot think of a more star-studded but also a more well-chosen cast for any set of movies before or since The Dark Knight trilogy.
I agree, probably the tightest set of movies from 1 to 3. The story, cast and acting were superb.
Agree, best comic book adaptation ever. I wish warner bros would go back to the character driven deeper stories with great cast instead of trying to copy marvel and go full cgi
@@davids8127 Seriously... I never thought about the whole DC vs Marvel thing when I think about The Dark Knight trilogy. To me, the Nolan Batman movies were a tier above. They didn't and don't need to be compared to a Marvel movie because they aren't comparable.
Marvel movies are about silly amounts of action and over the top displays of skill and quick wit thats becoming of a "superhero." They use their awesome power when overcoming a seemingly unbeatable enemy, that constantly one ups the last foe every single time over the course of all movies in the MCU, to become more and more comically powerful, and impossible to defeat.... It's good fun, stupid fun though.
The Nolan Batman trilogy was so much more than just a bit of over the top fun that's not taken too seriously, though they certainly gave us that in just the right doses. I remember when they first came out, it didn't matter how many times I'd seen them, any movie in the trilogy this applies to, if one came on television I was going to sit down and watch it. Period. And it was exciting every time, it was a good night when I was watching batman. Everything about those movies was great. It was just an undisputed fact that you knew didn't need argued to anyone, because they knew it too.
They had so much atmosphere, inspired so much emotion. Every single performance was world class, everyone from Tom Hardy's Bane, to Christian Bales Batman, Scarecrow, Harvey Dent, Gordon, Alfred of course, and Morgan Freeman... No he didn't play anyone in the movie...Morgan Freeman plays Morgan Freeman, and that's the only character Morgan Freeman acts out!
I don't even NEED mention the legendary, monumental performance, Heath Ledger gifted to all of us as The Joker... Standing tall throughout the test of time, but not untouched by the tragedy of his death, shortly thereafter. This just adds even more to the emotion, and the nostalgia it delivers though! Heath Ledgers last fully completed role... To add to that, there's a mystique, and a darkness that surrounds the whole thing, what with people saying that Ledger had to put himself into such a horrific headspace to produce this treasure of a performance for us, that's what caused him to end up dying tragically of a drug overdose much too young. All of those rumors, whether true or not, definitely contribute to the overall legend of Nolan's Batman films.
.... I think that.... I love The Dark Knight trilogy more than I realized I did until this moment. I hadn't even thought of the movies in a decade... I should watch them again. Yeah, I should do that... I think I will.
@@danielnelson4881 I agree, I didnt compare them I think they way above the typical blockbuster style, I meant about the recent series with Justice league etc, they wanted to replicate what marvel did which they failed miserably. And yes that timelessness what makes the Nolan trilogy, I dont know how many times I saw the Dark knight but it always gave me new way of appreciacion for some details or brilliant dialogue. Its going down as one of all time best trilogy for me the Lord of the rings is the first because its an epic adventure throughout but Dark knight remains ine of my all time favorutie movie. I dont think anyone come close to it for long time as Nolan kinda made his own genra with his take.
Chris Nolan brings amazing performances out of so many actors.
Cillian is just an AMAZING actor in everything he does. He has amazing facial expressions which he learned to tie it to inflections in his voice which really gives his characters a new dimension that people become enthralled to watch. Ledger set the bar so incredibly high for the joker it will literally take decades before someone else can fill his shoes.
Cillian actually screen tested for Batman. I think he would have made an interesting Bruce. But I think the Scarecrow role was more suited for him.
@@turtleislandlac1490 a few months ago I would’ve scoffed at the idea of Lillian as the bat, now that I’m 3 seasons into peaky blinders that opinion has definitely changed
@@turtleislandlac1490 Cillian should play Batman years later after Pattinson
Cillian would have been a better Joker. Cillian's presence was far more threatening than Heath. Sorry.
I wanted more of Cillian Scarecrow, but at the same time I am happy with what we got, I dressed up as scarecrow one halloween.
Tom Hardy's Bane was menacing in a incredible and realistic way. His voice, his eyes, all showing the focus and danger of the character. Perfect acting.
Finally! When he put his hand on ole dudes shoulder, he conveyed more fear than any other villain.
Loved the acting hated how they used the character
@@fishsticks8155 true! He knew how to be threatening using just his presence.
@@FirstLast-yh7gj I liked his origin and the mercenary profile, but the Talia plot in the end was really unnecessary
I love listening to this guy. He breaks this down wonderfully
Out of these I have to say my favorites are:
Tom Hardy (Bane ist my favorite Batman Villain and He captured his intelligente and anti Batman like character perfect)
Jack Nicholson (The OG theatre Joker, absolutely brilliant performance)
Dany DeVito (been a while since I actually watched the movie but I really liked his portrayal)
Heath Ledger (Best Joker performance hands down. He is *the* Joker)
Hi hello? Heath? Yeah mate Joaquin here buddy I'd like a word 😉
Heath was great at whatever character he was playing, but one thing I'll say is that character was not the joker. The joker is completely insane to the point of defying any diagnostic criteria and is just completely unpredictable whereas with heath I always got the vibe he is in full control of his faculties and he's just going to very extreme measures to prove a point.
On a separate note I agree tom hardy absolutely crushed it as bane and devito played the sad misfit element of penguin perfectly given his origin in that movie and as for jack his performance was just a chefs kiss from start to finish.
@@ashspinks9529 Fair enough but that's maybe why I like Heaths version of the Joker so much. Sure the real Joker is just this insane maniac who has No respect for life other than be it for his amusement.
There's just something about the speculative and cold Heath Joker that fascinates me.
@@waveburner1254 yeah I agree his performance is captivating and worthy of all the praise but if I was to rank the best jokers heath wouldn't be listed because at no point did I feel like I was seeing the joker in that performance
Danny devitoa penguin was such a pervy creep, but his performance worked to make me scared when I was little lol
I agree with most everything that was said, only for the part when he’s breaking down that last scene with Pfeiffer’s Catwoman. He says we see too much Selena Kyle. I thought that was the whole point. In that scene, as she’s about to get killed my Max Shreck, a guy who had victimized her previously, the vulnerable, nervous Kyle comes out, only for the Catwoman persona to resurface when she delivers the line “how about a kiss, santy claus?” You can even hear it in the change of tone in her voice, I thought it was brilliant.
I completely agree. Just wrote a comment saying the same. Apart from his "analysis" of her character arc being way off imo in terms of logistics she had to get close him in order to kill him. If she jumped up he would have just unloaded on her.
Now I thought it was either too many bullets too quickly or more likely she was acting like Selena to get in close enough to kill him with the weapons she had. Only to reveal herself as Catwoman right before the death kiss. Beautiful acting.
I agree, well said.
Excellent comment.
Also, the pain and effects of getting shot are usually downplayed in film. 🙂
“Do I look like a man with a plan?” -Heath Ledger.
"You know what I am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it! You know, I just... *do* things.”
Great scene.
And yet, everything he does would require huge amounts of planning.
yep lel
@@OuttaMyMind911 Batman: First time?
His biggest lie. I think his character had a great why of making a lie seem like the truth and this line is my prime example of that.
Cillian Murphy is incredible in everything he does and Heath Ledger is a legend.
Have you seen Anthropoid?
Murphy is a damn good actor
@@ELFanatic He is. I would say he doesn't get enough recognition, but I think he gets all the recognition he wants.
I went to Dark Knight to watch it in Imax, expecting yet another decent action movie.
I can honestly say that I have NEVER been blown away by a performance of a supposed supporting actor like I was by Ledger's.
It is so rare for a single character to take over a movie, but Heath did it.
Heath Ledger and Joaquin Phoenix are absolute legends!
@The Senate so is Paul Miller
@@benz2600 who's paul miller?
@@jkad1363 I think Gypsy Crusader (Omegle joker)
A legend is one who has followers of himself.
@@superkom4707 So Mark Hamill?
Heath ledgers performance is so good in "The Dark Knight" that every single time I watch it, I become convinced that he is going to do something completely different than the last time I watched it.
And it makes me want to watch it again just to see if it is different 😂
Heath Ledger, Jack Nicholson, Mark Hamill, Cesar Romero....all fabulous Jokers !!
Damnn
Yeah Ledgers Joker was much more unpredictable. Phoenix was more down to earth not so fantastical. Both were great.
When Cillian Murphy sighed and took off his glasses during the scene with Falcone, I got chills down my spine and knew something horrible was about to happen.
Tom Hardy’s Bane was so underrated. I think after Ledger’s Joker, people set the bar very high but Bane was very very good. He was truly terrifying.
I think it's really the rest of the storytelling around those movies that makes people sleep on them, despite Hardy's performance.
I feel that both Heath Ledger and Tom Hardy both outshined Christen Bale significantly in the batman movies
I think what ruined Bane wasn't the other villains' performences but the plot with Talia. I felt like every scene was worse because she was in it.
@@cplcoen I believe that the best thing that Bale ever did was Empire of the Sun, which is his first movie. After that, not so much. He’s just not a very good actor. The same goes for George Clooney. Any good movie either has been in was good in spite of them and never because of them.
i love the way he always clutches his collar everytime he gives a speech, just like those old timey politicians.
Why Pheonix was so believably in pain because he in part was: both the physical strain he put on himself to make him slim and boney, to the mental preparation, during the filming of that film he never had a break for one second. That's true dedication
check out We were never really here with him in it
Yh he actually injured himself on set while filming. That is very high dedication.
He also said that he tried to gain weight for the joker look.
There’s prep for a role, like research getting into the character, losing or gaining weight. Then there’s going too far with isolating and injuring yourself and I Jared Leto’s case send dead animals and used condoms to cast mates, that behavior is inappropriate and possibly illegal, and the isolation and harm is very unhealthy. You don’t need to do that at all to get a good performance.
@@gracewhitene3912 no he tried to loose gain to make it more believable for the joker look
The reason I loved Christopher Nolan’s Dark nights series was because it had such a dark, but realistic/humanistic tone and it was so powerful. Heath ledger did a perfect job exemplifying that.
The trilogy also had some humor. Example: The coat scene.
I appreciate how it creates such a modern feel too. Even the soundtrack with those drums. that Gotham architecture is so clean to me, like the shot behind Joker’s back with the mask at the start of TDK looks so crisp and nice
The DCEU has been trying to copy/capture the Nolan trilogy’s magic ever since and they will only continue to make themselves look foolish. The “closest” they’ve gotten is with Phillips’ Joker film because instead of trying to copy/capture what Nolan did, they allowed the director (and lead actor) to make something unique and their own. I mean, for all intents and purposes, Joker is just a deep dive into one man’s descent into madness; appreciating and mourning his loss of innocence; his final surrender to his psychological disease. But yes: Heath Ledger will continue to be the best Joker, followed by Nicholson, and finally Phoenix/Hamill closely behind
@@pazzoaf how’d you like the Batman?
@@jennikifm2 d
Jared Leto: exists
Acting coach: don't do that
Lmao
But...but "method"
@@Dream146 mans Thought if he sent condoms to everyone on set he would be a good joker. Bruh🤣🤣
Not a good actor
@@IloveElsaofArendelle actually I don't know if I'd go as far as to say he's not a good actor but the way he went about portraying the joker was dogshit.
I’ve always enjoyed the way Cillian is such a veteran actor and it disappoints me when he’s looked over by the few that do sleep on him. He does what so many actors can’t. He’s like an instrument in a way that at sometimes the instrument can “sing” without actually hearing audible lyrics. His eyes and breathe control and body mannerisms are so exceptional and second to none. I rarely watch actors who can run a whole scene purely off body movement and facial expression while using little to no dialogue at all. But Cillian kills it. Really shows power, patience, control and endless practice. Shoes a lot about his personal character as well. He must be a very observing person rather than a talker. Bc Keanue reeves and ppl similar are more quiet guys but man John wicks monotone and saturated character write is done so well by Reeves in the same acting fashion Cillian specializes in
I didn't like being reminded that Jared Leto's version of the Joker existed.
What do you think of his new design??
@@BAEHELPJAYDO its not just about the design...
@@lucas-xf7rc I mean I doubt he's gonna act any better tbh, just because ur a good actor doesn't mean u can play the joker
I almost cringed myself out of existence
I don't think any of us enjoyed being reminded, haha. Leto Joker reminded me of the kind of things I'd write in middle school.
Heath ledger in my eyes will probably always be the best Joker, he nailed the role to perfection & is exactly how I see Joker. I loved Joaquin phoenix's Joker too but for different reasons but I feel heath ledger's Joker is unmatched. I do love mark Hamil's Joker from the games & animated series, his voice is too iconic to not mention him.
Joaquin Phoenix in my eyes will probably always be the best Joker, he nailed the role to perfection & is exactly how I see Joker. I loved Heath Ledger’s joker too but for different reasons I feel Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker is unmatched.
@Murphy Lazar Let's not compare Heath and Joaquin's Joker. They both did their own thing and both did a perfect job
@@theriddler482 that's because of the standard that heath had set...
I mean when it comes to pretext of most accuracy to comics along with instilling a chilling and unforgettable performance that heath pioneered for this character
Mark Hamil's Joker is my number one by far.
@@theriddler482 I agree.
Arguably Schwarzenegger was the ONLY actor that knew what kinda movie he was in.
Hey everyone!
*Chill.*
so true
@@Duckverse ice sea what you did there.
Don't be so cold to the others
Chillll
Cillian Murphy scared me and made me really believe he is the scarecrow. Such an underrated actor, and he always perfect in his role. Even in Inception he was just amazing and I don't have to mention 28 Days Later.
Cillian is criminally underrated! I'm so glad you included Scarecrow in this collection because he played him so beautifully. If you haven't yet seen Cillian's diverse body of work i highly implore you to take a gander. You won't be disappointed- he gives his life to every character, even his small part in Dunkirk. For him, it's always about the script and great writing before anything else :')
Who did he play in Dunkirk
@@edwardboland4015 He plays a shell-shocked soldier. Cillian was on the lifeboat and somehow ended up stranded in the middle of the sea, probably the ship that the lifeboat was trying to get to was struck and he was the only one to survive.
I still remember reading about one where he’s a, say, pizza delivery boy that gets caught up in a series of misadventures via Lucy Liu. Can’t remember what it’s called, tho.
Heath Ledger did the role so perfectly. I can’t imagine anyone doing this role better.
Todd Phillips: Enter Joaquin Phoenix
@@Alpharelic Phoenix is so overrated compared to heath
I actually see it the other way around.
@@RichardNixon1972 I don't think either of them are overrated. They're both amazing actors and had different interpretations of their own joker.
@@alivia9691 Its simple,both actors are not comparable because of their different methods,voice etc joaquins joker is full on fresh wounds and a newbie on becoming a joker with not much experience and some little compassion in him(sparing the dwarf guy) while heaths joker is a more veteran and insane/intimidating used to pain one
Should’ve mentioned Aaron Eckhart’s Harvey Dent. Very underrated.
very true
Yes, one of the best performances in the movie
It’s a weird take on Two Face to me. Two Face was a villain that above all cared about duality, chance, and of fate. Obviously there have been a ton of different takes on the characters over the decades but I guess for me while ultimately I think Two Face would always honor the outcome of the flip of his coin, there seems like nothing other than stone cold killer in Eckhart’s performance. While maybe it’s not necessary to the plot progression in The Dark Knight I would have liked a scene where Two Face struggles emotionally with the reality of his own duality. While it’s clear that Two Face is a chance-leads- directly-to-fate persona than Harvey Dent is at any point, it would be nice to have seen more internal emotional struggle than something so one sided.
Harvey Dent, can we trust him?
He gives a great performance expressing the duality of Harvey Dent. You can watch him slowly slip as the movie goes on and ultimately succumb to his dark side. His performance was great because he had to play two polar opposite roles.
Considering that one of Penguin's iconic lines in Batman Returns is "I'm an animal!!!", if you say Devito's take lacks humanity well I would say that he is portraying the character exactly as Burton wanted, and so Burton is more to blame for that particular take on the character. I actually like the depiction (even though it varies from the source material) and did feel that Penguin's death - along with the penguins as the unofficial 'casket bearers' - was one of the scenes with the most pathos in the film.
This. He keeps on forgetting that the director of the movie decides how a character is played, not the actor.
@@miguelthekewlkid272 Other than a few niche cases, like Robin Williams' more successful movies or some of Johnny Depp's blockbusters, the actor almost never has much of a say. My guess is this acting coach is the type who thinks everyone plays in their own self-directed one-man-show to Standing-Room Only empty closets like he did.
I agree with him. But then again, I'm probably one of the few human beings who did not like Batman Returns.
I always liked Christopher Walker’s Max Shreck in that film, too. It might come across a bit campy, but I found his sneering and apathy very effective.
yes, and Anthony recognised that. Said that Devito just had to pick that up and run with it. That movie was just awful anyways... The only one of Burton's takes on Batman (or any of the live action Batman movies in the 90s) that really worked was the first one with Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson. The rest were kinda painful.
We all know Cillian killed the performance! However, hearing him talk about the performance makes me wish Scarecrow was the main villain!!
Scarecrow/Cillian doesn't have the presence of Ledger's Joker or Hardy's Bane. He's intimidating, but he doesn't steal the room the way those guys did.
Seriously. Such a massive missed opportunity. He finally got the recognition deserved from Peaky Blinders getting popular, but with a better character in Batman, he would’ve been recognized much sooner.
@@jamesjohnston1297 Thank Nolan for that. It’s not Cillian’s fault that the script was bad. Unlike the other movies’ villains, Scarecrow doesn’t have much screen time. Less than 10 minutes.
@@SnailHatan 28 days, Inception, and now Quiet Place 2
@@KerioFive His character in A Quiet Place 2 was pretty vapid.
Joaquin Phoenix and Heath Ledger are indeed some of the best actors of all time
@@ashtonvangulick5986 the Player of the Green goblin in spiderman man he is scary
@@simonkaggwanjalla Haha Dafoe would be so great probably the best joker ever. Hope he does it
Phoenix joker kinda put me asleep after awhile
The way he described Joaquins scene in the bathroom was spot on
As far as I’m concerned what heath did was the greatest piece of acting possibly ever. He literally made this film what it is. Simply outstanding
Am I the only one who was scared as a kid by Danny devito penguin.
I remember having nightmares after watching that film. OMG! Even today I can't seem to gather enough strength to re-watch that movie😂
@@kgabothamaga7155 remember that nose bite scene
As a fifteen year old seeing this for the first time, it actually gives me the creeps.
Especially when he's dying and covered in blood. As a kid: hell no I ever want to see that again
I always turned away when he bit the dude's nose.
Wish he would’ve talked about Dark Knight two face, amazing performance from Aaron Eckhart
True
Yea he killed that. To the point that I'm still waiting for them to do a movie on his character. They left us on a super cliff hanger wit that
@@vershawnsea9219 Not really, he died as exposed in TDKR
Honestly I was impressed by Eckhart more than by Ledger in that movie
@@mysoncrumphaseveryinjury3853 no that's too far
“He’s mocking human laughter”
Damn, that’s deep.
Its an absolutely perfect description...
Hahagaha
Why does everything have to be "deep". It's just a very fitting description
@@dominikweber4305 not everything is but sometimes it is 👌🏼 this instance I felt it was
Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman portrayal is 10/10..... She put Catwoman on the map the same way Jack Nicholson's Joker did for the cinematic audience.
She looked stunning, but her acting was really bad.
@@gabrielgoncalves2763 What!? Her acting was great and what was required for a Tim Burton Batman universe. She basically stole every scene she was in. And jeez, you gave yourself a thumbs up.
I love Cillian Murphy, as a comic book reader he did amazing for scarecrow, he's a very underrated celebrity and he's one of my favorites. I'm going to rewatch Batman Begins now 😂
Yeah, Scarecrow and Batman Begins kind of get overshadowed by the rest of the Dark Knight series, but they're so good.
@@movingamountain true, I think it's way better than the Dark Knight Rises, but that's my opinion people always leave out Batman Begins
@@chelseaheineman4620 Yea I Agree
@@movingamountain what do you mean overshadowed? its the best one. most would agree
@@crobeastness a lot of people I talk to only mention the Dark Knight or the Dark Knight Rises. I guess that is just anecdotal evidence so maybe there are a lot of people who think Batman Begins is the best. I just don't hear it very often. I definitely like Batman Begins though!
I’m just gonna pretend i didn’t see Leto’s joker
why?
Dude I honestly deliberately didn't watch that movie ... Because of him.. Being the joker
@@WlSTERllA bruh
@@TeKIllusionZz what 🗿
Ha.. hA.. haA..
Cillian Murphy is one of the most underrated actors out there. Give him what he deserves
You know he's a lead on a tv show on netflix right? What more do you want?
@@Al-fm8kh more tv shows and movies in which he's a lead.
He's not underrated.
He deserves to be locked up in Arkham Asylum.
@@Al-fm8kh a lead on a Netflix tv show isn’t nearly what he deserves
This is very interesting and I loved the breakdown on Cillian Murphy's Scarecrow . His acting was on point down to the changes in breathing.
Heath Ledger's Joker scares me more than any other villain, ever. Every single time he was onscreen I literally feared for my life, and I was sitting on my couch. THAT is acting.
I mean he was GREAT in that role but you must just be a fearful person lol
you "literally" feared for your life when you know its a movie? Holy hyperbole alert Batman!!
@@vdoggydogg3922 Yeah. That was the whole point of the...you know what? There's not point in explaining things to people who just don't understand humor.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jack Nicholson’s too! his laugh used to scare the shit out of me as a child
Tom Hardy's Bane is my favorite and seriously deserves more credit. Heath Ledger's Joker will forever be legendary, there's no arguments there. But selling this menacing force of fear and darkness and how much he intimidated Batman on his first encounter and his monologue on the differences between him and Bruce on their use of Darkness was just amazing. The Joker's lines made you think about his perspective of society but Bane absolutely haunted you on what real fear and real torture and darkness really was and just his delivery of his monologue sends chills up my spine every single time like "oh no. You're in my element now. And there is nothing comfortable or safe about it."
Something I've always loved about TDKR's Bane is the voice. It would have been such an easy decision to give him a deep, guttural tone, to try and force initimidation out of him, but just like with the soft hand touch scene that was dissected in the video, his voice being so... thin, higher pitched, thematically mis-matched to Bane's physical appearance, it used contrast to fantastic effect.
Ngl, before i found out Tom Hardy played Bane, i actually thought it was John Travolta
Yea mate hands down,he needs to b in the nx suicide squad movie..
What would of made bane even better is if they somehow made him look weaker or skinnier then return to natural when he uses his juice 💪🏽 they could of used cgi but I’m glad they didn’t
Christian Bale was definitely the best Dark Knight... The worst is Clooney
Jared Leto's Joker is that punching bag we never get tired of beating the crap out of it in all possible ways
Going after him for 10 minutes of screen time in a movie heavily reshot and rewritten by executives who wanted a dark film to be more like Deadpool? I don’t think shallow is the right word to describe Leto then, but maybe, you?
@@jacobaarum Imagine defending his bad acting because directing and rewriting was bad too.
@@juliansanchezharris5773 ok sure, you’re calling the directing and writing bad too when you didn’t even see the director’s final product is really what I’m getting at here. Judge the final performance and movie when it’s put together by the director, not the studio. Then I’ll entertain these conversations.
@@jacobaarum I don't mistrust that fact.
I trust that it would have been Way better if outer parties didn't interfere.
That said. Leto's way of acting was his own decision. He had the freedom to put His touch on the Joker and he did it... the co-actors clarified that.
Knowing this, the ACTING itself was not convincing enough or wellmade. It felt forced and it was less sociopathical while being aware that he was a sociopath, and more of a teenager that Wanted to be cool and sociopathical at the same time.
He tried but also failed as an actor in this movie, with or without the reasons you mentioned.
It was so bad.
I'm glad you gave an honorable mention to Mark Hamill. His maniacal Joker was consistently amazing
Couldn’t disagree more about Pfeiffer’s performance. I think her Catwoman is of of the best and most iconic villains in any medium.
I'm not one for leather suits but man did she look hot and I was a kid at that time😅😂
It's mostly due to her outfit. I think she overacted but there were some iconic scenes. I prefer a more comic book accurate version by Hathaway
@@johnshepard9743 Catwoman was dying, and Selena was already dead. Nothing to do but take Max with her.
I didn't see the whole film, but I agree. I also think (unless she actually did the somersaults, which is still in her favor) she gets credit for Catwoman being out of breath.
Yeah. She did everything right in that performance. I think DeVito's Pengun was great too. They both delivered what was required in the best possible way, maybe even better. The only thing off about that movie was the script. Too much of it was just silly and unrelatable (aside from the origins and lines of Penguin and Catwoman), and as a result the movie has aged badly, especially when compared to the first one. None of this is down to those 2 actors, who I think carried the film.
Weird how he didn't mention Tom Hardy's eye expresions, I thought that was a key element in his character
Yes, to me the most mindblowing thing about Tom's performance is that almost his entire face is covered with that mask thing and yet he managed to deliver this incredible acting using his eyes, voice and body language.
I think because the acting coach wanted to mention something new. During the press tour promoting the movie, Hardy and Nolan would keep mentioning his eye acting.
Huuuge
Gosling is another good eye actor. His silence makes the times he lashes put in films like blade runner very unsettling.
@@devinthierault yes totally agree! In Drive he plays such a silent and stoic character but is able to communicate so much with his eyes
Literally everyone I mean everyone nailed their part in dark Knight that’s why is better than any dc movie and half of MCU
This comment is underappreciated. Terrific insight.
Why did they have to replace Rachel in dark knight? I liked the first one better..
it is better than every mcu movie but not better than every dc movie like batman begins and the dark knight returns part 1 and 2
@@crobeastness what are you talking about?
@@vishalchidambaram1064 I'm saying I think the dark Knight is the 3rd best DC movie and better than every MCU movie. I prefer batman begins and the dark Knight returns deluxe (which is just both part 1 & 2 together). That's what I'm talking about.
I agree that the riddler was too “Jim Carey” and too theatrical, but I always assumed they cast him for that reason. I’m guessing the director wanted it that way
Joel Schumacher used to shout "Remember people, we're shooting a cartoon here!" before each take.
Every Jim Carey character is too Jim Carey.
Jeff Daniels said it best, "You gotta let Jim Carey be himself". In an odd way his Riddler is what made the movie memorable
@@danthemancushecan you ain’t lying. He and Jones made an awesome evil duo. They nailed Robin imo as well.
In a movie that was specifically suppose to be campy, he restrained himself more than you'd expect from Jim Carrey. At least when he was Nygma. I feel like he still did the best in that movie.
Leto's performance felt so forced and contrived...like he was playing a character impersonating a character.
There was no conviction in anything he did - it felt like a very phoney-crazy front, like what you see someone do during a police interrogation when they're trying to convince the detectives that they're insane and not at fault for whatever crime they committed.
Word📌
Yeah…he was terrible as the joker
Well, he should have given the role his own spin, instead of impersonating heath ledger. Because you just can't ...
He tried so hard by sending the other actors organs, and still failed at the roll, mans so pretentious lol
Like his 'acting' in Bladerunner 2049. I hated it.
I gott chills all over my body when I heard the: Ah ha haha haa ahh
Of heath ledger
And I thought my jokes were bad mmmm
Imax opening weekend Sunday 5:00am. Unforgettable .
Cesar, Joaquin, Jack and Ledger were the perfect ones
And Mark Hamill!
@@CZedby Yeah, he was way ahead of his time
@Springs & Sprockets That's not a problem. That is the plot and core theme of movie.
@Springs & Sprockets We don't know if what we saw was real
Maybe he just told a fake story :shrug:
If it isn't the case, I DON'T CARE ! THE JOKER IS A CRIMINAL CLOWN THAT BLOWS UP THINGS, MAN. IF YOU'RE A FAN OF LEDGER, OK. BUT DON'T BE A HARDCORE FAN THAT DENIES A NEW JOKER
@Springs & Sprockets Actually, This version of Joker is not designed to be a villain at all. They just used Joker as a medium to tell a story. This version of Joker wouldn't be in any Batman or other films, it's just one needed story told through Joker as an origin story.
That breakdown on Joaquin in the bathroom was...spectacular. I watched that film three times and I never would have thought about that bathroom scene as a metamorphosis.
I’d be interested in a breakdown of the performances of the actors who played Batman.
Bale, Affleck, Conroy, Keaton, etc.
Ideally, after The Batman comes out so we can get Pattinson too.
Michael Keaton was the best for me. He didn't need black eyes and just spoke with enough bass tone to disguise his voice. All the rest overplayed the batman roles. Going back to the TV series , a blind man could tell you who batman and robin were......
I enjoy Christian, Kevin, and Michael’s performances as Batman/Bruce Wayne most. And I can’t wait to see the new Batman movie!
I have a feeling I’m going to enjoy it and Robert’s portrayal.
And others too.
After seeing the latest batman I think Pattinson does the bruce wayne part better. You saw more of the kid that lost his parents instead of the guy with money. Bale was awesome but I gotta give this one to pattinson
I think all the actors have brought something to distinguish themselves from the rest and that’s why opinions on who the best is vary so much. Btw, Pattinson is my favorite.
Sorry but christian bale is clear
I love that you can see fear, chaos, and pain (respectively) in Cillian, Heath, and Tom's performances since that's what each of their characters stood for. All three of them really knocked it out of the park. 🦇
Heath Ledger, Joaquin Phoenix, Cillian Murphy and Tom Hardy were all BRILLIANT. Props to Christopher Nolan too, 3 villians out of his 3 batman movies gave legendary performances!
Cameron Monaghan's Joker from Gotham is hands down my favourite. I know he had a lot more to work with in terms of time for a story line because it was a TV series, but that also made it more like the comics.
He was fantastic in the show although I never understood why they were not allowed to actually call him the joker, I mean I know it was to do with licensing but they licensed literally every other f***ing character from the batman universe why not him? Lol I did enjoy their work arounds with it like Jeremiah referring to himself as "j no Jack no Joe" in reference to his aliases mistah j, Jack white and Joseph kerr
I will never forget how incredible that dinner party scene is from The Dark Knight. When he came out of the elevator none of the other actors there had seen Heath Ledger in costume before, and he always did his own makeup. Michael Cain had a line there that he actually forgot to say, and Maggie Gyllenhaal said he was legitimately terrifying. Heath Ledger literally 'stole' the scene, leaving the others speechless and in shock just from the sight of him.
Overhyped sensationalised horseshit. Everyone on set knows its all make believe. No one was legit terrified. They were acting and overhyping a performance to sell a movie and praise Heaths legacy
@@grahamjackmacpherson6501 You're incredibly wrong, but I can tell you're so butthurt nothing will change your mind. Sad.
@@exercise4pizza nothing sad about having an opinion that's different to yours.
@@grahamjackmacpherson6501 have you ever acted on stage before?
@@wiscomitch3412 I have yes. Why?
Legendary acting by Joaquin Phoenix in the Joker
Not really
@@bboyg1 Joaquin did great.
@@bboyg1
Not really? You're insane
@@bboyg1 Yeah yeah, go ahead and say "Not really". Theres still more great ratings for Joaquin other then "Legendary", So it doesn't matters if you wanna say his Legendary or not
@@bboyg1 Clown
"What's happening? Is he gonna kill me? Is he gonna kiss me?"
Damn that killed me😂😂😂
23:30
To be fair, it IS Tom Hardy who seems to have that sort of chemistry with almost everybody he works with. :P
Silly man, Bane can't kiss through that mask.
@@leadvendor joseph gordon levitt in inception HAHA
@@leadvendor AND you have Ben Mendelsohn whose fearful and confused reaction is perfectly portrayed.
Would have loved to see his reaction on Paul Dano's Riddler
Danny DeVito's performance was iconic. Truly tragic. Someone using a "monstrous" performance to hide the torture he'd endured as a child. The performances in Batman Returns are very underrated all around.
it's weird how he is so in tune with the building of a villainous persona as a defense mechanism with other characters but he lets the fact that it's not the "right" penguin get in the way of his evaluation of danny devito lol
DeVitos performance was spot on for what the screen writer wanted. was it true to penguins origin, no. but they wanted him to be a monster like for their interpretation of the Penguin.
@@toadsprout Yes! Exactly. So many dismiss Batman Returns because it's not a pure Batman interpretation. I say, where's the fun in that? Batman Returns is my favorite Batman movie BECAUSE of the risks it took, and because of the fresh, original interpretations. Especially with Penguin!
@@eddiegodat8263 Yep! For the story they were telling, DeVito's performance was very compelling. You felt sorry for him, and had a bit of a soft spot for him, and yet, you hated him at the exact same time. That's not easy to pull off as an actor!
I hated his remarks on it..Penguin in the early comics was a 2-bit robber that had little to no nuance or anything remarkable...Danny DeVito truly raised Penguin to a new level. Id even say the Animated Batman series did the same with Mister Freeze. What once was a generic villain of the week gimmick, was turned into art, tragic and exuding emotion. But nah, let's be biased because it's not comic book accurate....
Eartha Kitt was a TREASURE. Glad to see this role recognized for how great it is
Yeah, she kind of had a ready made voice for the part.
Why wouldn't it be recognized? It's been recognized for decades.
Kids today have no idea how controversial her casting was back then so when she did the role justice it was a triumph for batman fans.
Affirmative action ✊🏿
Eartha was largely considered an acquired taste until that role. People that didn't really like the show or her style tuned in and raved. Brilliant casting and a great performance.
I just disagree with the penguin observation. I think Danny did amazing and it was done on purpose by Tim Burton. Danny’s portrayal of penguin is one of a kind like Heath’s joker.
And neither are the true interpretations of the comics, so he celebrates one and berates the other. He also ignores that this was never intended to be the classic and ignored putting that on the producer even though he did that for a few others who did far worse w/what they were given(Mr. Freeze/Two Face/Poison Ivy).
Yeah as a kid I thought he was terrifying
Agreed.
I agree
Never in your itty bitty small meaningless life compare Heath ledger to fat ass devito
What also makes Heath Ledger's Joker so great, was that you felt he was making his stories up, but the way he told them part of you felt there was some truth to it. A phenomenal performance by an actor who left us so young.
They did Danny DeVito dirty...his performance haunted me as a kid it was so good
RANDOM FACT: Ancient Egyptian cat owners would shave off their own eyebrows when mourning for their dead kitties. 😎
I had nightmares about the penguin
I also enjoyed Danny’s performance
I enjoyed Christopher Walken in that one. His suit, shoes, white hair, and side eye were great!
His acting was good, honestly. He just let the fact that they did Penguin totally wrong get in the way of his judgement. That was the director's/writer's jobs to get right. DeVito just brought their vision to life, and did a damn good job in doing so. But I will agree with him that they screwed up Penguin and did his character terribly. DeVito could've played a great Penguin that was faithful to the source, not this hideous, unnecessary monstrosity.
"See I am not a monster; I am just ahead of the curve"
Me when I suggest killing 80% of the human population in order to prevent overpopulation
@@dr.disappointment8400 cannibalism, over population and hunger are solved
@@dr.disappointment8400 Thanos got it wrong. THIS man knows true balance.
@@dr.disappointment8400 you would cause a lot more problems.
@@Kyle_J850 yum yum
The death scene of Catwoman was exactly that, her death. She's ceasing to be Catwoman and becoming Selena Kyle again, hence the staggering and collapsing, since Selena Kyle is already dead.
Would’ve loved to see him look at Dano’s Riddler. Terrifying performance.
Terrifying?
@@deed2466 yeah Dano is a creepy, school-shooter type of villain who, at any point, can meltdown.
Would have love to have seen more villain development and exposition with the new riddler. I felt cheated out of a great performance from Paul dano. Too much cat woman and penguin.
@@deed2466 The creepy part is is that he looks so innocent and sweet even though he was capable of such destruction, which is kinda true to a lot of ppl tdy
Dano was amazing. I knew when I saw him in Prisoner that he was gonna kill it. He makes me so uncomfortable but I love that about his acting
Cillian really good to play scarecrow.
Such a great casting choice. I wish there was more.
Hopefully he gets a chance to play him again someday...
I mostly agree. But I think Devito’s penguin is underrated, he embraced being labeled a monster but he at heart was a orphaned child who was never really a threat to anyone.
absolutely the penguin was an awesome performance and his death was meant to be tragic, not threatening. it was more sad, where I even felt myself feeling sorry for him, even though I hated him most of the movie.
He was literally just objecting to the performance because it wasn't the interpretation of the penguin he wanted
Completely agree!
Completely agree. He also had a lot of humanity
@@Jackdavsm indeed!
Nolan's casting nailed every villain...
Thanks for analyzing Eartha Kitt's catwoman. Her role was groundbreaking for the time.
Heath's Joker was unique and awe inspiring. No one oozed menace the way Jack did (I mean, of course, it's Jack). But Joaquin was the only Joker I not only rooted for, but cried for.
Joker is life
I thought his comments about him coming to full realization and freedom in the bathroom was spot on. I felt that in that exact moment. I was like here he is...😬
yeah, you're not supposed to root or cry for the Joker though. That character wasn't the Joker, you could have named the movie "sad clown" and it would have been the same
@@92brunod everyone has an opinion
@@92brunod What do you mean "not supposed to...?" who made that rule, you?
Heath Ledger as The Joker and Tom Hardy as Bane are simply iconic. They both were just incredible in their roles and they nailed it 100%.
I love listening to this guy. He breaks this down wonderfully
Same, I learned a lot from it.
Yeah he’s good
Would love to see this updated with Paul Dano’s jaw dropping Riddler performance
Jaw dropping??
@@MichaelJoshuaWilliams It means he did well
Uhhhhhhh yeah no
His performance was not the riddler dude,i love different takes on comic book characters like the penguin from batman returns but the difference between how the penguin was overhauled and how riddler was overhauled is that one worked,the other sucked and was so much worse than the source material.
Jack Nicholson’s Joker was amazing!
Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman doesn't know - or possibly even care - whether she'll survive, that's why it's desperate and pained.
I love they Heath says stuff that almost doesn’t make sense at the time even if i thought about it I couldn’t pin point it, it’s really methodical and only he can portray it. Heath did a phenomenal job of portraying a crazy person whilst still being extremely intelligent.
"Some men just want to see the world burn!" That says it all about Heath Ledger's Joker...
Tom Hardy’s portrayal of Bane is one of my favourite villain performances in a movie. He was well spoken and absolutely terrifying. He (and we as fans) know that Bane isn’t threatened or intimidated by Batman and Hardy bring this to the table.
I just wish they'd given us the actual Bane rather than a catspaw with a wildly different backstory. That said, I don't think Hardy could have pulled off a South American accent and he did an excellent job of playing the character he was given. It just wasn't Bane from the comics in any form.
@@Vherstinae I don’t think actual would have worked. He’s not realistic like the rest of the characters are in this trilogy. (With the exception of Ra’s)
@@Vherstinae you would need perfect casting, perfect performances from that cast and perfect directing for that, probably one best left to the pages of graphic novels like the broken bat saga