981 Cayman GT4 or 718 Cayman GT4...Which Is Best? Owners Debate!
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- The 981 Cayman GT4 versus 718 Cayman GT4. It seems like it's a never-ending debate about which car is the one you want to own.
The 981 GT4 is the first Cayman GT4 and is seen as more analog, raw and less refined.
The 718 GT4 is the second - and last - generation of the Cayman GT4 and is seen as the more advanced, powerful and desirable of the GT4's.
Thanks to this video, any potential GT4 owner will not have to rely on professional car reviewer's opinions or the buzz on the forums. Finally, here's a video that's all about giving you the answer to the question of 981 Cayman GT4 or 718 Cayman GT4.
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People, the best GT4 is the one you have in your garage. And if you don't, find one. Any gen, any trans, with buckets.
Udo gets it. He’s a real one. Great perspective about ownership. There’s always something newer or “better,” and being satisfied with a great car and saying this is “enough” and enjoying it for what it is can be difficult but is ultimately the key to happiness. At least until you’re onto the next experience. PS Will, you weren’t kidding, you squirm like crazy as a passenger 😂
Lmao
I have zero interest in either car, and this, in my opinion, has been your best content yet. Udo gets it..... "the more experiences you can have, whether it's in 1 car or 10 different cars, it doesn't matter" Both yall have different tastes, and some of the same. Some people like to drive them. Some people like to buy them and shine them. Every owner's experience is different. To each their own in every facet of Porsche ownership. That is true Porsche experience in a nutshell. Fantastic video!
Wow. Thank you for the compliment. I’m glad this format worked also. I have many more guys I can bring on and do this. In fact, I shot one about my 76S where my buddy Patrick is driving it and we discuss the driving experience. Coming this week.
This has to be one of the most thorough yet enjoyable GT4 generation comparison videos out there. I can't believe I sat through a 30min+ youtube video! I credit that to how both your passions for Porsches makes it easy to express how you feel about the cars. I particular liked the part of the vid where both of you reluctantly appreciate the auto-rev match 🤣. I'd love to see more of these comparison videos!
This was fun and very timely. I have owned a 987 Cayman S and now a 997.2 GTS manual. I have been very air-cooled crazy going way down rabbit hole from Mid 70's RS clones to 964's to 993's. I just can NOT justify the expense vs. performance/reliability puzzle. After being outbid multiple times I am bloody OVER and OUT on air cooled. Not entering the cult. A GT4 may be in my future. Will likey be the 981 as will be similar to my 3.8 in the GTS. agree that you both got the RIGHT cars for your personalities and driving style. Kudos to choices.❤
That was a fantastic video, I love my 981 GT4 with PCCBs and 18 ways 😋
Same here except I have a 981Spyder
Your content is always great, Will. As a former bike racer this one was even more special. I love my 997 but know these are more fun to daily drive for short hops. Congrats on yours!
I can’t thank you enough for the support.
This has been a fantastic video. I'm in the middle of trying to decide between the 981 and 982, labouring over the seat issue and the noise comparisons (probably the two most topical issues whenever someone is trying to choose between these two). In the end both cars have their own character and individuality. I'm still torn but it's great to know other people suffer from this as well. Cheers
So glad to hear it’s useful. That’s exactly what we were shooting for. No hype, just real time impressions for anyone working through this decision.
IMO the internet will have you fearing the buckets… I dont daily my GT4, but find these seats extremely comfortable.
Enjoyed the conversational style. Your friends perspective is so accurate about experiences. Great video! I love my unmodified 718 spyder with the rubber deck….I got to spec it from the dealership….with the sofas….and have no regrets as a DD!
Got my Spyder in February. DD too. It is unreal and puts a smile on my face every time.
Both are great cars. IMO the buckets complete the GT experience. I wouldn’t own one without them. IMO the 982 isn’t worth the 20k+ premium. Super happy with my 981 GT4. The 981 to me will be more special being the first and with limited production.
Great video on not only the comparison of the 981 vs 982 GT4, but why these platforms fit in the ownership spectrum. I currently own a 982 GT4 from new but have owned many others and all have their place whether they are 30 years old or 1 year old. As for the debate about buckets vs sofas - I have the buckets and they work for how I use the car, but if I were to drive it as a daily I would not want them. Just my own personal experience and I’m athletic and ride bikes like your buddy in the video. But if you are driving it for fun and have something else as a daily then they are great.
Thanks for continuing to put out the great content.
Will, this is great stuff! Love the new direction on the channel. Also, you don’t need to explain yourself - air cooled or water cooled - both great in their own way. I’ve owned 5 911s - now on my second 992. GT cars are fantastic 👍🏽 Wish I was around NC more to join your events.
Great watching two owners chat about their cars and the difference they're feeling between the two. Found this as soon as the question of 981 or 718 GT4 real world differences came up in my head. I've at in my friend's 991.2 GT3's buckets for a 3 hr drive to Sebring and was NOT comfortable after an hour.
Thank you for posting this. It made me pause the video and go drive my 981.
Great video, extremely interesting. I'm a 911 (997.2) owner but my interest in adding a Cayman has grown over the years. This continues to stoke my interest in a 981.
I loved this video. I have a 718 GT4 with the buckets and I think there are pluses and minuses for each generation and the various options. I felt like I was in the car and loved the conversation. By the way, my understanding is that the 3.8 can be upgraded such that the HP and torque is very similar to the 4.0. The 3.8 is a great engine. P1 Design inserts are top notch and I plan to get some as well. Thanks for taking the time to make this video.
Softronics and FVD offer tunes 414 hp, Porsche detuned the 3.8 from 400 hp to 375.
Also the 3.8 is a real NA engine. The 4.0 is the 3.0T without the turbo...
I would say its a bit more than that. The 4.0 has a tuned intake with multiple resonance points. It was certainly derived from the 3.0T but its a thoroughly tuned engine. I believe it's only real drawback is noise and environmental regulations which have affected the exhaust design. Install a good exhaust such as Kline and you're good to go.
One of your best videos. It’s great , makes me even doubt if I should go for a Cayman (GTS) instead of a 997.2 as my first Porsche.
I love this. Can you do another like this with the owner of the Spyder you reviewed?
Nice video, I like the comparison perspective. I agree on the 18-way vs LWBS discussion. I would like to have buckets, but the better overall solution for me is 18-ways. Great cars, keep enjoying your Porsche’s, whether that’s air cooled or liquid cooled or both. 👍🏻👊🏻
Even though I’m on the opposite side of the world in a different hemisphere, the vibe of shared enjoyment of these cars is exactly the same. It’s what makes club drives so enjoyable - the community of enthusiasts enjoying what they have and sharing an interest in each others cars. 👍
I had sofas in my GT4 and opted for the buckets in my GT4RS. I thought I made a mistake on the spec when I first got the 4RS, the buckets were absolutely brutal. $2500 later, after custom P1 inserts and the dealer installed reclining risers, the buckets are now 80% as comfortable as the sofas. They look cool, help with resale, but depending on body type they could not be for you. I’m 6’, lean, athletic FYI.
I didn’t know the dealer would do risers? Long shot: do you have a link by chance?
Great video Will! All Porschea are great! Even luft this year did the celebration of all Porsches, day one air, day 2 water and everything else. A true Porsche enthusiast embraces the past and the present and everywhere inbetween! That’s why one’s gotta have the past and present in their stable!Keep up the great content!
Thank you for the support 🙏🏽
I really enjoyed the in-car chat between two knowledgeable owners; as Udo says there's always something newer faster rarer, but these things are absolutely fabulous, whether you're just cruising or taking it to the track, and in my view the experiences are often better when they can be shared.
Really enjoyed this video and I like Udo's perspective on ownership of Porsches. I've never contemplated owning a GT4....until now!
Great video my Man Udo and Will. Porsche is one of the few companies that can keep the modern cars still feeling visceral as the classics with the option to stay manual! I noticed it was interesting that it one may not feel the speed you are traveling as much because they are so well engineerred and catches you by suprise. In addition may need a track to get that vibe you can get at lower speeds on public roads with the air cooled cars. I like the idea that the GT4 can do both track and street well. Heck just do what you feel like doing with it (within reason on public roads LOL). There is no right or wrong. Would like to hear your thoughs guys about visibilty and seating position 911 vs cayman body and how that comes in to play. Very tempting to come to the dark side (lots of Vader references Udo). Looks like Udo and Will may already be there.:) May the Fuchs be with you.
Well done Will, great video! 👏🏼 I love the 981 GT4, maybe a bit more focused in a way, not a car for everyone as the 718 is.
Totally agree on the 18 way I have them in both pcars, and always in sport or sport plus mode for lively driving. Great videos Will!
Thank you guys for this review
Just bought a 718S in manual absolutely love it 😊 previous car was a Audi B5 RS4 !
Fantastic perspective gentlemen.
Something just occurred to me as I familiarize myself with your channel. Clearly you have an appreciation for the classics. To be fair, it's kind of hard to call yourself a true car enthusiast if we forget about the heritage.
What are your thoughts on Singer and other Porsche coachbuilders? Is this a taboo topic or simply spoken in "hushed tones" due to the astronomical prices they garner?
I see _a lot_ of coachwork cars at the annual Barrett-Jackson Auction here in Scottsdale, AZ. In fact, this is where I was introduced to my first Singer Porsche around 2011-ish.
Unfortunately, most people tend to blur the lines between coachbuilders and tuners. However, they could not be farther apart.
Nevertheless, I am thoroughly enjoying the content.
Stay classy my friend.
Thanks!
I am only interested in cars I can afford so I am not really intrigued by the Singer stuff.
I totally understand why they’re special and all, and I have enjoyed seeing them at shows once or twice but at this point I am apathetic.
@@Rennthusiast Ah yes, I too am pragmatic to a fault (as my wife says).
I find that honesty and rationality often overlap in the Venn diagram of pragmatism. FWIW, I respect an individual that can admire but not obsess over something so coveted, yet unattainable.
_"It put our energies to sleep and made visionaries of us - dreamers and indolent... It is good to begin life poor; it is good to begin life rich - these are wholesome; but to begin it prospectively rich! The man who has not experienced it cannot imagine the curse of it."_ *~Mark Twain*
Stay classy my friend.
Excellent video thoroughly enjoyed end to end - love both these cars and enjoy seeing an owner enjoy and share their wisdom and knowledge 🎯🏎🏎👏
You do you Will, I love the channel and have been following it since the beginning. Great to see both air and water represented.
BTW, I was between doing mods to an old SC vs a new 718 and all of this has helped me make my choice.
Great video. The comparison was very interesting 😃👍
When I first test drove the 981 GT4, it immediately felt like I had been driving it for years. Within the first mile I was rev matching downshifts (myself) and driving it like I stole it. That car is just so usable power-wise and tossable, plus the engine sounds way better than the 718 GT4 (w/ OPF's). I didn't get one and went 911, but maybe someday.
The exhaust sounds better, not the engine. I have a Kline exhaust on my 718 GT4 and the best sounding system if you are looking for a Porsche OEM GT sound with no drone. Enjoy your 911.
This video has been a game changer for me. In the coming months I’m going to have some money to buy a dream car and the GT4 is top of the list. I don’t earn a lot and don’t have a lot of money so £50,000-£70,000 in the UK is a HUGE amount to me. I didn’t want to get the 981 and be thinking “what if”. I want the 18 way sports seats and steel brakes as well. As a cyclist who’s now 48 and had spinal fusion comfort has to be a thing.
After seeing this I know I can save some money and still be happy. A 981 GT4 without buckets and ceramics. I’ll be looking at sub £60,000 ($76,800), there’s one on at the moment in white, from a very reputable seller at what would be $69,000. This would leave money in the bank so I don’t have to worry about fuel, servicing and repairs.
Thank you both! You’ve answered a question I’m sure many will ask over the years.
This is great content Will! I will say this is one of my favorite videos you have done!
Will, I think you should promote some sort of your own cars and coffee Porsche meet up.
Thanks SO much. It’s interesting, it’s not performing as well as others from a view standpoint but you are the second long term subscriber to say this. I think pivoting to incorporate water cooled cars - especially a GT car - is going to take building a somewhat new audience which will take time.
Thanks again!
Second time watching this video. Get burned out living in England on upper middle class posh guys doing car videos. I love that there are guys like folks in the U.S doing it. Normal guys who appreciate what they’re driving. The 981 GT4 has just dropped to sub £55,000 in the UK. If life plays out I could be in one…❤
If you drive a car that revs to 6,000 rpm and 2nd gear will get you 60 mph at that 6 grand limit people will not say the gear is too tall.
If you have the exact same gear ratio but your engine will turn 8,000 rpm
2nd gear will still do 60mph at 6g and 80mph at 8 thousand rpm, its the same gear with more rpm but people will cry "it has tall gears". Nobody ever explains this and it leads to a false perception of Porsche having bad gearing.
How is the steering of these newer Porsche with EPS compared to older Hydraulic steering in terms of feedback? Is there road feel in the newer? For reference my Cayman GTS 4.0 is my first Porsche and have never experience the older. I do admit I am the clean and shine love to look and admire in the garage at the moment. But whenever possible I take it out on long road trips and bang off the rev limiter often acting very juvenile.
I don’t have the same complaints that others have about the steering feel. I find it certainly adequate and enjoyable to drive.
@@Rennthusiast. I thought you bought a very low mileage 981 GT4. I just ran into another guy on youtube with a 981 GT4 purchased recently with only 6000 miles on the clock! Congrats on your purchase.th-cam.com/video/7hMPZ5e0jd0/w-d-xo.html
@trigganometry168 , my exact, I said exact sentiments 🏎
These are great videos with other Porsche enthusiasts riding with you or driving. I have to say that the audio suffers a little from time to time. A mixed audio (equalized) is in order for such good videos...
Very interesting. Love hearing about the little "differences" in similar cars.
I think both of these (981 & 982) are great examples of the Cayman platform and would like to have the displacement bump in the 2010 987.2 Cayman S I have. I don't know if the changes made to the rear suspension are transferable to the 987 gen car or not, maybe or maybe not. The 981 GT4 got the 911 S 3.8 and not the 911 GTS 3.8 with 408 HP and the 982 got the 9A2 911 3.0 with larger cylinder bores and the 3.6 (9A1) crankshaft 81.5 mm. In the 997.2 gen 911 there was a 3.6 with the same bore and cases as the 3.4, but had the aforementioned crankshaft. To get the 4.0 from a 3.8 (9A1) you require the 3.6 crankshaft and a piston set with the wristpin height revised to have the pistons @ deck. There are 2 options for those who want to spend the funds required to change the gearing in the transaxle. Option # 1 is those offered by GT Gears, input and output gear sets and option # 2 is offered in the UK with a different ring and pinion set vs gear sets. I'm personally good with the current setup, but if I wasn't I pursue door # 2. The low end pull is due to the crankshaft and probably the camshafts too, but I don't know the specs on those.
Awesome video! This is my favourite way to enjoy cars, with fellow enthusiasts talking about every little nuance 🤣
Great video, thanks for sharing!
The GT4s are gorgeous! After owning a car with rev match (Corvette C7 GS) I realized I need to own a car without it. The systems are too good to ignore. Happy in my track built 987.2 Cayman S.
Will, I like the shorter shifting, the heavier clutch and the heavier steering.
LWB’s are a must for any GT car imo. Carbon ceramic brakes are optional. I’ve owned both carbon ceramic and steel brakes and prefer carbon because of the little to no brake dust😅
You can’t get 18 ways and say it’s for comfort… the suspension is way too stiff for it to be a comfortable daily driver. That is enough reason to only get the LWB’s.
What is relevant to me is simple - anything that is Porsche puts a smile on my face. I don’t get lost in the details - there will always be a better car out there but who really cares.
Your buddy hit it on the head about Porsche buying. People on forums are so categorical about everything, yet most of them havent experienced most of the cars they are so certain about.
Before I bought my first 987 Boxster, based on all my reading I was convinced I HAD to get the S.....
Then when I started test driving some, I realized right away that the base was plenty and super fun to drive and for me at the time, I could not justify the 7k or 8k premium... I am now on my second base 987, a dot 2 this time and didnt even consider an S....
To me 981 is winner, appears to be less artificial based on the impressions shared in video.
It’s sharper and tighter. I can’t decide if it’s bc mine is lower mileage or that’s just the difference. The 718 felt a tad “floaty” in comparison, at least in my humble opinion.
I own a 718 GT4 & I like the 981 more. It’s better out of the box for my style of driving. 718 is a way better daily & more suitable to everyone else with the lighter clutch and lighter steering feel. 981 feels like it has a track alignment out of the box compared to the 718.
the internet would have you believe the buckets are horrible. drove my GT4 back from NY to Georgia with no issues. super comfortable and IMO completes the GT experience. i wouldn't own a GT car without them.
Yep, they are killer. I just needed the front spacer to tilt the seat slightly back.
I’d have the 18 way seats 1st second and 3rd. The offer fantastic support and are very comfortable. Why pay thousands to be uncomfortable and have no more support.
Love this video, i just picked up my 718 with PDK and Sofas! We could really stir up some controversy with that combo, i saw you’re in the NC area? Let me know if you want to meet and film! Im in CLT
I’m about an hour north of you.
Shoot me an email at therennthusiast@gmail if you’d really like to do a video.
Great video. I think key is, both owners are happy with what they have. That’s the most important thing
That said, what is that seat belt guide/protector on the bucket seats? I have never seen that before !
They are made by EdGuard USA. If you google them you’ll easily find them.
Thanks!
Another excellent video. I’ll stick with my stock Amazon green 964. But I really enjoy all the Porsches during your journey. A question, I have a little rust along the lower edge of the windshield. Maybe a fourth of an inch. NA shame to have to take out and probably replace the original?
I think you can try to save it but I would get on top of that rust asap. As they say, it never sleeps and you’ll want to pull the seal and see what’s lurking.
I had that with my 993 and thankfully it was just surface rust…maybe you’ll get lucky!
Great comment about raising children not just money but time same as car.
Hi Will. Just a question for you about your choice. I note that you also have a 991.2. Don't you feel that a GT4 is not a big enough difference between the two.
I have a 981s and a 993 and I'm thinking about a 991 or 992 to replace the 981s.
What was it that made you choose that combination?
Thank you
Huge difference between the cars from a driving experience and performance perspective.
I would call the 991.2 a touring car while the GT4 is a little beast with perfect balance.
The interiors have some commonalities, though, for sure.
@@Rennthusiast thank you, that's exactly what I wanted to hear. All the best.
Rod
I really enjoyed this video! Super interesting to hear such a candid review of each car back to back
I think the best combo is a hot rodded air cooled and a comfortable water cooled daily (especially if you don’t plan to track it). I’ve had a 981 gt4 and I found that 6 months it it was super boring on the street. Gears too tall. Only fun at the limit, which you can’t approach on the street. But not comfortable enough to truly daily. That said, to each their own, and I hope you don’t find the car as frustrating as I did.
Guess by the next time I check in, he'll have moved onto becoming a "dedicated" hard core JDM aficionado with a sudden stable of Japanese classics.....😂
Good to hear both perspectives on each car. Thanks for sharing. Also, I found this video to be interesting a while back when I was brushing up on the GT4. th-cam.com/video/5zUJae9DSCQ/w-d-xo.html
Also, the ability to really enjoy the GT4 on the street varies by region. The Savagegeese are in the Chicagoland area and there's simply no point in having such a car relegated to a densely populated road system.
718 Spyder is peak Porsche.
@Rennthusisast So which one is more fun to drive ....... just about to sell my 992 4gts that feels to good and to nice.
981
Udo is the man, had to keep saying rev it. That’s a man who’s about the driving👌🏿. For me he’s the man, true Petrolhead 😊
I love the video!
The 718 is very hard to beat, it's possibly the best driving car ever. The Spyder is better than GT4 though (I've owned both). The suspension is a touch softer. Perfect road car.
Not sure how the other car could possibly be better except for sound out of the factory.
I daily my 718 Spyder. Peak Porsche!
I don’t agree with the opinion that it’s more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow.
I ride a KTM 1290R Gen 3 it’s fun at slow speeds too, far more reliable in “moments” because it’s as instant acceleration to get out of harms way as opposed to being a sitting duck on a low powered bike where braking is your only option. PS I ride in Bali Indonesia on a 110cc scooter and in Tokyo on a 250 Kawasaki Ninja(they’re fun but I miss my 1290R when I am).
For me I hate having to take a run up and long slow acceleration to overtake poor drivers - it’s a far to long exposure to increased risk IMO
I would never hear the end of it from my wife if there were carbon buckets in our daily driver.
Cool video. Enjoyed the banter back and forth. I really have to stop watching your channel I am getting the bug to buy a Porsche.
Congrats and enjoy a great car. It does seem a shame to say you will not track a GT4 and not get a better understanding of its capabilities. GT4 with buckets seems a poor fit for the street compared to a GTS with sport seats.
I have a 718 GT4 and I find you can’t really begin to know the capability until you take on the track. My prior p car was a 718 s which was much more comfortable on the road. Both are awesome and fun.
I feel like if you're spec is influenced by people you don't know then you're doing it wrong.
I don't have one but if my significant other had a problem with buckets I'd get the other seats.
But after watching this and struggling on which seats in a Cayman GTS or Carrera T I may just go with the 18 way as a daily I'd get heated and cooled seats.
981 owner is the typical Porsche conformist elitist that follows the crowd. 718 owner has self esteem and confidence, understands himself and owns his decisions.
I really don't want Bucket. Too old. Both are great cars.
Having a GT4 and not tracking it? Pretty ballsy to come out and say that publicly 🤣
Enjoy your content, but…
WHY buy a GT4 with buckets and say I’ll never track it? Really makes no sense to me as that’s specifically what it’s made for. You cannot come anywhere close to its capabilities on the street (responsibly) anywhere in the US and big wing cars look so dumb as street cars.
Get a GTS with 18-ways, full leather and whatever other options you like & at least be comfortable and not draw so much attention while you’re (still) not able to touch the cars capabilities on the street.
Fantastic guys.
Where will the new electric GT4 leave these cars?
My prediction, Will will have a 718 GT4 within 6 months.
Lol
My prediction, Will will keep the 981 GT4 and buys some 18 ways for it ☺
Good prediction!!😅
I like the idea of the air cooled cars but honestly they don’t hold a candle to the cars that came after them. The 996 is better than the 993 in every measurable metric but NO ONE wants to talk about that
Porsche 911 Owner Stories: Porsche 996 Coupe Owner Says Why He LOVES The FRIED EGGS!
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Rev it higher! Quote of the video.
"N+1"... Definitely a cyclist!
Why get a GT car without buckets lol to each their own
sometimes you cant even choose that option… friend could not, so his Spyder are with 18way seats. Still awesome and easier on daily basis (if you going in and out many times).
Ps: I have 718s with buckets.
Buckets are overrated!! 100% I'll take the 18way forget what's expected Bs boomers and genX think. Oh lemme guess Will wants to trade the Gt4 now..
I slept on the 18 way until I got some on my 997 tts. I will never buy another Porsche without those seats spec
Nope. I think I’ll add a 981 Spyder and park it next to the GT4 instead.
The guest s a true enthusiast, the host with his outlook, comments and driving comes across as a Poser. Hate to say it but I couldnt watch the whole thing
After publishing almost 200 videos about Porsche ownership, not to mention having owned 12 or so of them, I disagree with you about whether or not I classify as an “enthusiast.” I’m a driver, a collector, a caretaker and am engaged member of the Porsche community.
I have put thousands of hours into this channel…and make very little money out of it. I do it because I love the cars.
Whether or not you like my style is another story…my personality, delivery, etc. isn’t for everyone, which is fine…but I can assure you that I wouldn’t do this (including putting up with criticism from randoms such as yourself) if I didn’t love the brand. 😄
With all of that said, thanks for watching as much as you did. Maybe go check out The Smoking Tire or Jay Emm? They are great channels and maybe more to your liking 👍🏼
I think we all know the answer to this. Newest is best. And the GT4RS is the GOAT and rawest Porsche of all time😊
I don’t think I would be so quick to jump to that conclusion 😄
@@Rennthusiast it’s not a hasted conclusion. I’ve owned 14-15 different P-cars over the last 9yrs and driven pretty much everything Porsche has pumped out since the 930, except for the new 992GT3RS. I still own my first Porsche, a -90 C4, which I’ve had outlawed inspired by Frank Cassidy’s Black Betty and did 12 full track days in it just last year. So the knowledge and history is there.
As for GT4 I’d choose a 981GT4 over a 718GT4 if manual, as I really didn’t like the drone at certain rpm and hated the gearbox in the 718manual making it a 1 spd gearbox with 5 overdrive gears if you were to avoid jail time reaching redline in any gear above 1st.
991 was the last interesting 911 for me as the look, size and quality of the 992 is just putting me off.
The 992GT3 is so clinically capable with it’s RAS, wide rubber and trick suspension that it is definitely demanding illegal speeds to be interesting to drive on roads. The 992 GT3RS will just exaggerate these attributes to a stratospheric level and render it just silly to pilot around on roads, and let’s face it, most of us haven’t the cash to keep tracking a 992GT3RS every second weekend through the year with all costs accrued in doing so.
Then enter the 718 GT4RS which has Porsches best motor stuffed in the back, the loudest cabin in any modern Porsche, the shortest gearing in any Porsche road car, and the best part of it, it’s not just another 911. Outside of petrol heads, nobody sees a difference from 996s to 992s. When the 992 came out in 2019 and I got to drive it in C2S/C4S guise, I felt no urge to trade my then 991 Carrera T in for one of them. 992 was a big disappointment to me. Same was the 718GT4 and the 981GT4 got away from me at the time they were new and I wasn’t really ready to give up on the 911 platform at that time.
After having owned the GT4RS for 8 months now, and finally after winter got to track it proper in April, I can say there’s just no sports car out there delivering the same outright fun and hooliganism as the GT4RS does. You just can’t buy another car built in more than seriously limited 2-digit numbers from any manufacturer giving more laughter and joy.
Both of you have got to go try the GT4RS. It’s the benchmark of petrol hedonism. Nothing will become the same again. And don’t ever think the TH-cam videos does the IRL in cabin experience justice.
The GT4RS is simply the GOAT Porsche not looking at lap times but joy behind the wheel. Have fun!
@@Nord_Mann please know I wasn’t questioning your credibility or background. You clearly have deep Porsche experience. Thanks for watching!
@@Rennthusiast no I know you weren’t. Just needed to explain my standpoint, as by itself it’s not very intelligent to put out “the newest one”. Of the 981/718GT4 in manual I’d choose the 981, as long as it has digital radio as my country, believe it or not, has made the wise decision to shut down the FM waves. That’s on par with the wise decision putting road blocks closing off fully functional roads.
@@Rennthusiast actually I think the 718 platform is the new air cooled replacement in size and just fun factor.
I loved the 4 way sofas and steel brakes and rubber dash in my GT4.
Which is best? They are pretty much the same and both great. Was fun to see you react to the subtle differences.
982 with OAPs is 🤌🏼
918 buckets are the best seat in automotive history.