I will help to summarize it as below: $ Kg Kg/$ Milwaukee 70 577 8.24 Makita 45 443 9.84 Wurth 35 436 12.46 Forsage 10 385 38.50 Noname 2 65 32.50 So in summary, while Milwaukee wrench demonstrates the best quality, it's worth noting that in terms of Kg/$ spent, Forsage wrench appears to be the best bang for the buck.
I wouldn’t necessarily say forsage is the best bang for buck. Maybe for a light duty mechanic but in the end Milwaukee or makita would be the better option. Especially when they hold their value longer
Except additional cost for gasoline to go buy a new one. AND, if it is your profession, you have to refuse requests from customers if tools are broken which is a terrible opportunity loss.
Load tolerance isn't the only characteristic for evaluating a hand tool, though. Longevity/durability, ease of use, ergonomics, warranty support, etc. are also possible considerations.
Here’s the thing, at least 3 of those wrenches were made in China. The matkita and milluaukee are, I’m pretty sure both made by the same megacorp in China.
On site cheat bars are used all the time with people putting there whole body weight on them to get bolts off. That must achieve something close to 400 kg
@@just1ofozz they have a bulit in deformity in the square so it breaks before the mechanism.... solid metal is always gonna be stronger this not a argument this is literally general knowledge
As a modern engineer I’m not surprised that the 1970 wrench still took 1/2 the abuse and still was somewhat functional. New is cheaper, lighter, and economical to built but not always better. Modern cars are a great example of how crappy technology can be. You will never see a 2020 car survive until 2050 but yet all the cars built in 1970 have still made it to 2020. Sure they are heavy and get 15 mpg but they still made the journey and that’s what counts. Old engineering was built to last, not engineered to get you past the warranty so you can buy another. I will never forget my roots.
@@silverdog63 do your studies and not what they are telling you. More deaths today because of cars completely crushing. Old cars stood through accidents, sure we had deaths but not from hitting a deer, tree, large cat, hog, wooden fence etc. these are all things today’s cars will clasped in a low speed accident. The same people telling you new cars are better are the same people telling you electric car are green and that the oceans are rising. Remember Florida and California were not supposed to have beaches by 2010!!! People need to learn common sense again not what the brochure is telling you written by the person who benefits you buying it.
@@MeBallerman it’s good that you have an opinion but you make no sense. Look around you at the number of old cars that survived. The steel back than was 1/4-1/8 on the frame and 16 gauge doors, today,s cars are 30-26 gauge doors with lots of creases to make them sturdy. As an 43 year old engineer I seen it all and nothing built by corporate owned companies is built for the interest of surviving just to get by and sell them another. I will stand by my statement. But for your liberal tree hugging buddies a 1970 car probably didn’t survive if it was burned, crashed, found in the ocean on the Titanic I hope that clears it up for you!!
Thanks for the video. $70 wrenches must be better than $10 ones otherwise buyer will be mad. But the difference of broken point force doesn't justify the $60 cost difference LOL
The difference being, if you need tools for home, perfectly fine to buy cheap. It's different when you rely on your tools to make a living. Spend a bit more to have the confidence that they won't let you down when they are needed to pay the bills.
It's not just the breaking point alone that has to justify the cost, there's also wear and long-term durability. You also have to consider the general performance of the tool and how well the mechachinism ratchets. A cheap, sloppy ratchet mechanism can be difficult to use in a tight operating space. So, you might want something high quality and precise.
By the way: Würth is a German company, but they do not make their own tools. They buy them from all over the world and just put their name on. So the Würth ratchet in the video might actually be a Chinese one (although a good one). 🤣
the same $10 china wrench i bought in china with delivery cost $2. its not very good but could use. if you pay $10in china you can got german quality wrench
El mecanismo es lo que fallara primero, con el uso diario es lo que fallan, sinla usas cientos de veces a la semana se quebra el mecanismo, lo digo por experiencia laboral, hemos quebrado 6 aprox en un año y las de mala calidad no duran ni 2 semanas.
Good review, testing method seemed quite consistent. Any of these rachets would work for me with the exception of the $2 No name rachet. 65 Kg of force is around 100ft-lbs (dependent on handle length), so I could break that. On Average, all the rachets broke around 1000 ft-lbs (+/-) except no name. Don't know about you but no nut I turn is torqued to 1000 ft-lbs, and even if it was, I don't have the physical strength to turn it let alone break it. It is after all, still a hand tool. The big difference would be the useability with the increased number of racheting teeth. The Wurth seems like a good balance between cost and number of teeth. For most home type applications, even the Fosage would last me a lifetime.
You're wrong in your conversions. 65 kg is roughly 650 Nm (Newton-meters), which is about 480 lbf (pound-feet) of torque. This is more than most car engines produce and way, *way* more than you can do with bare hands. You would need either to step on the ratchet (if you turn vertically), or use a much longer lever to produce that torque. So even the $2 ratchet does the job for like 95% of everyday uses. Nevertheless, personally I would opt for the Würth or the Makita.
@@andreaspallasch8372 "Japanese copied from nobody" yes they do through they entire history 🤣 Find out where Japanese writing, culture, weapons, construction methods and more come from
If you buy based on whether you can put 420 or 440kg with your hands, you are buying on the wrong things… I think the Japanese and the German one are better for work because of the handle.
The more expensive ones will most likely have better quality. This video can calculate the cost-effectiveness, but it cannot tell which country’s products have better or worse quality.
I have the Milwaukee Ratchet ,I purchased it with the 106 piece socket set. I am completely satisfied with it. I really love the sockets as well , worth every penny (to me ).
@@QuadMech still a sin. Just because you own something, it doesn’t mean you should destroy it. If I owned a rare car would you think it was fine to destroy it?
After seeing this test and the prices, if I had to choose I would buy 4 pcs for 10$, two (one for backup if the other one is damaged/lost) in a portable tool box for working outside the city + one in the car tool box + one in the home + 1 can of WD-40 spray lubricant! 😂😂😂
If you are strong enough to break any of those you don't need a wrench. Milwaukee don't have safety mechanism in square so that's why it hold the most.
Your test is unfair. If you want to test the quality made by different countries, should select the products with the same prices from those countries.
I guess I’m buying Milwaukee from now on! A follow-up video, part 2, demonstrating Crasftsman, Husky, Kobalt, Matco, Mac Tools, Blue-Point & Snap-On ratchets.
Yes we all need to see Craftsmen & Snap-On. Craftsmen isn't what it used to be so I bought my first Snap-on. Cost as much off the Snap-on truck as a very big Craftsmen set. I think S.O. is much better than C. but I'd like to see the test.
Lol, no, never. But with a possible lifespan of 80 years, life is short, so I would like to know which wrench will outlast me by a thousand years and then some. Just enjoy! On a side note, I have had a cheap ratchet wrench shear on me...I clearly outlasted that one.
Wenn du damit professionell arbeitest ist Hazet sicher 1. Wahl. Für mich als Gelegenheitsschrauber daheim wäre Makita oder KS allerdings ausreichend. Ist halt einfach nur die Frage des Preis/Leistungs/Gebrauchsverhältnis. Oft billig kaufen ist langfristig so teuer wie 1 x Hazet kaufen Was hier nicht getestet wurde Proxxon. Mein Akkuequipment ist Makita, Handequipment fast ausschließlich Proxxon.
O importante não está só na força de alavanca mas sim na quantidade de trabalho dos carretos internos que conforme o tempo e esforço de desgaste começa a folgar e avaria. Nunca homem algum vai fazer essa força. O desgaste interno é o fator mais importante.
The test only shows the load that can be endured. but no one manages to muster this strength. Since I have worked with most of these tools, I can confidently say that the Würth is the one that fits best in the hand and is the best to work with.
As a heavy duty diesel tech Ill tell you Ive broken a few 1/2” snap-on and mac tools ratchets. Granted I was using a cheater bar to try and break some really tough bolts free. Ive never broken a 3/8 drive ratchet with my hand it definitely takes extra leverage.
@@juanfo7307 as a good diesel tech you should know 1/2 drives have smaller profiles than a 3/4 drive and some times you gotta do what you gotta do to get the job done. Thats why I buy quality tools because they have life time warranty and will just get it fixed/swapped out when my tool guy comes. Lol Ive been doing this over 13 years If its in a semi truck Ive done it
@@juanfo7307 and breaker bars break just like ratchets, and yes Ive heated bolts red hot to break em loose but you can’t always use the torch. How long have you been working with tools? Since you know it all apparently
As a man who's broken a 3/8 ratchet by hand I can tell you the most painful part is the shock in your hand. And then almost hyper extending your elbow after is the worst.
You can put a pipe on the handle of the rachet, and you will be able to break even the "good" ones just by hand. It happened to me several times (Würth, Makita, Proxxon, Hazet)
Problem with cheap ones is not just material strength which is decent but some times moving parts are off in dimensions or don't have an optional design. I.e. a loose racket wrench.
What I want to know is what brand socket that is. For it to not split apart under those pressures is amazing. The only word I can see on that socket is “Forged”. I’ve had other cheaply made sockets spread apart by only using hand power.
Thank you for this video. You have shared valuable information. Some in the comments refuse to convert that to wisdom. I just built a 10m radio tower and ballast with my 1940's Snapon ratchet/gauge... but y'all can just keep talkin trash and livin your best life.
Interesting video. They all seem over dimensionsed to be honest. Clearly they can all handle more pressure than they would ever see in daily use. So the winner is probably the lightest.
It's an intetesting test, but as many other, for high torque bolts/nuts I dont use this kind of tool until I have loosed it a bit. For me its much more important how many teeth it has, how is the grip etc.
Warum nicht mal ne Ganzstahl Ausführung von Stahlwille, Hazet oder Gedore...? Das der Milwaukee 4 Kant mehr aushält liegt einzig daran das es Vollmaterial war und keine Bohrung hatte wie die anderen Probanden.
Bom meus amigos, eu trabalhando na mecânica de aviação com ferramentas de fabricação americana e de fato elas são extremamente boas de trabalho seguras e forte o bastante pra toda vida. O vídeo é muito bom 😁 Gostei bastante e mandei pra meus amigos mecânico e que ama mecânica
São chinesas mas as marcas não. Mesmo que sejam produzidas na China elas seguem projeto e especificações dos países de origem. Seria a mesma coisa que dizer que o Iphone é chinês porque é fabricado na China.
@@XxGearx ué vc é uma ferramenta? Rsss. Mas a lógica contrária pode ser usada, Seus pais são brasileiros , te planejam no Brasil, você é concebido e nasce na China, vcs voltam pro Brasil, vc é chinês? Rsss
My Summary: Forsage, China: $10, 385 Kg Wurth, Germany: $35, 436 kg Makita, Japan: $45, 443 Kg Milwaukee, USA: $70, 577 Kg noname: $2, 65 Kg Old 1970': 209 Kg Thanks for the video!!
Whoever have such strength as the machine that test the wrench must be a VERY Strong man. I would buy the $2 one or old wrench 1970 and it probably last me 20-40 years
For those of you talking about human strength. It’s common practice to use leverage or to hit the wrench so this is useful. Also heavy pressure in a short time can indicate over a long time. Also
Congratulations! By the way what are you trying to prove? Because Ratchet drives are ment for Faster assembly/dis-assembly and not as an Torque wrench. While assembling always use the Ratchet only till you can feel some resistance later you can use a breaker bar and if you want a proper work then use a Torque wrench set for the particular bolt. However while dismantling bolts over 1/2 " or 12 mm avoid using the Ratchet with 1/2" drive to loosn. Use a breaker bar! In fact I always use a breaker bar and try to TIGHTEN the fastener a bit and if it moves a bit then I try to loosen it till I don't feel much resistance. Later I can use the Ratchet or even a speeder handle if required. Thanks.
Thanks for the video. I definitely go for the $10 wrench. I don't think I can (without a machine) apply 385kg force to break the $10 wrench. Looks like it's a $10 lifetime wrench to me. Best buck for the quality.
My thought is, I’d rather have a wrench that had the drive square fail, as opposed to the mechanism. Two reasons; the drive square would (or should be) an easily) replaceable, and secondly it gives me more confidence in a high use item that the ratchet will hold up.
Yea that’s what I was thinking, makes the German and Japanese ones the better choice as they don’t have an integral square (and are also cheaper than the American one). It’s why deliberate points of failure can be very useful as safety features. Actually goes way back to the Romans, they mass produced javelins and designed the tips to be replaceable and fail, this mean the javelins in most cases could be repaired easily just by replacing the tip, prevented enemies from picking up their javelins and throwing them back to the romans, also means that they got stuck in enemy shields, making them heavy and much less useful, forcing enemies to ditch them and neutralising shield walls.
Drive square is not a standard part it is probably a casting with integral teeth and unique to each brand and model. It is probably not readily available as a spare so not easy or cheap to replace.
The head of the Milwaukee tool seems larger, which could be a problem working in cramp areas. One thing that is not addressed is the length from the center of the socket to where the press pushes at the wrench. The longer this length is, the more torgue is put on the wrench given a certain kg push. The Milwaukee tool seems longer thus the press seems to push further away from the center of the socket, so it has taken even a higher torgue than the other wrenches... But that price is not for me.
In general, all went well, because how much leverage can a person exert in a squeeze? La diferencia para mí será la vida útil de cada uno . Bueno un fuerte abrazo para todos Es una de mis herramientas preferida 🇺🇾
In fact, even in China a $10 wrench is considered low-end product. China also manufactures very expensive wrenches, which may far exceed your purchasing power. BTW, I'd like to mention that the testing equipment in the video is also made in China, you can see company name on metal tag "蚌埠大洋传感系统工程有限公司".
Milwaukee is an american brand, but produces in germany, china, czech republic and Taiwan.. So far for american made. Also Würth is by far one of the lowest quality you can get in Germany. If you want something realy high quality, you´d buy Gedore or Hazet. Unlikely there is anything better than those two tool brands...
I am running a small scale motor garage & by the experience we are aware that USA tools are perfect. But very high price is unbearable. Best solition is middle quality Chinese or Thaiwan tools.
There is a methodological problem: you apply the force at higher distances on long wrenches, meaning the torque is much higher. This makes the Milwaukee even more impressive
Not realy, the force was applied at the same distance from the rotation point for all tools regardless of the tools handle length. If you want to point out a methodological problem, then its, that the sample size of one per brand is way too small.
It would take significantly more mechanical advantage to break any of these than the length of the handle allows haha. Anyone fitting a pipe over their ratchet to increase mechanical advantage should not be surprised if any of these break! Use the tool meant for the job
@@clipsedrag13 made in china yes, thought Makita is owned by japanese people, the video make it look like milwaukee is owned by US citizen, when it is not anymore.
The socket wrench from Würth is not made in Germany, these are made in France by Facom, it is only made for a German dealer, if you want to test something made in Germany you should look for Gedore (not Red), Hazet, or Stahlwille.
I like the milwaukee, its strong and the handle is all metallic so its very easy to clean. I use Beta and Facom and they're great but the rubber/plastic handle will deteorate with the use and oil stains.
Milwaukee's ratchets are primarily made in Taiwan. Many of their hand tools, including ratchets and other mechanic tools, are produced in Taiwan, where there's a strong manufacturing base for high-quality tools. Some of their tools may also be produced in China, but Taiwan is the main source for their ratchets.
Brother, Taiwan is not a country. It is a province of China. It is just not under the control of the Chinese government. The international community has never recognized Taiwan as a country.
The most important thing I learned here is that you really can use a very expensive hydraulic press to destroy all socket wrenches. I'm not sure when I will find a use for that knowledge. But if the wrenches of the world ever start misbehaving, we'll know how to deal with them.
It's really depends your need and budget. You probably won't be able to break any of them unless you extend the bar with a pipe. Of course, I will choose the 10$ made in China one, since it is cheep enough and good enough. Import tax is pretty high here in China.
@@红杏出墙-c7g And that's what allows companies to make lots of money by selling overpriced products. We all deserve the best, in our own heads, but we ususlly don't actually need the best, just what's good enough. I think that you and I think the same way.
Está claro que la calidad hay que pagarla, pero también hay que tener en cuenta las condiciones y exigencias que se le a una herramienta en un trabajo determinado, si no se van a usar grandes palancas que aumenten las fuerzas enormemente todas ellas cumplen sin tener que pagarlas muy caras. Con los brazos no es fácil hacer las de cien kilogramos y si no se lo creen prueben con una dinamométrica, pero ojo que en algunos países a esta le llaman (mal llamada) dinamométrica cuanto está no permite saber la fuerza que estamos haciendo y soltar a la presión adecuada mientras que la que aparece en el vídeo es una lleve de carraca y simplemente vale para aflojar o apretar rápida y cómodamente ya sea por larga rosca o por poco espacio para mover la llave.
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I will help to summarize it as below:
$ Kg Kg/$
Milwaukee 70 577 8.24
Makita 45 443 9.84
Wurth 35 436 12.46
Forsage 10 385 38.50
Noname 2 65 32.50
So in summary, while Milwaukee wrench demonstrates the best quality, it's worth noting that in terms of Kg/$ spent, Forsage wrench appears to be the best bang for the buck.
I wouldn’t necessarily say forsage is the best bang for buck. Maybe for a light duty mechanic but in the end Milwaukee or makita would be the better option. Especially when they hold their value longer
👏👏👏👌forcage is the best one. 370 kg in 30 centimeter means about 1300 N/m.
_____________$ Kg Cost per Kg
Milwaukee 70 577 0.12
Makita 45 443 0.10
Wurth 35 436 0.08
Forsage 10 385 0.02
Noname 2 65 0.03
Thank you!
Except additional cost for gasoline to go buy a new one. AND, if it is your profession, you have to refuse requests from customers if tools are broken which is a terrible opportunity loss.
The Chinese $10 one is the best considering both quality and price. Which application home would need >350kg (~1000lbs) torgue force?
350kg = 770lbs.
Totally agree with you
true, Without a price attached, it is a meaningless comparison.
中国制造基本上基于你能买得起的价格，再来制作满足你需要工具，追求实用，而不是为了无限性能。
Load tolerance isn't the only characteristic for evaluating a hand tool, though. Longevity/durability, ease of use, ergonomics, warranty support, etc. are also possible considerations.
Here’s the thing, at least 3 of those wrenches were made in China. The matkita and milluaukee are, I’m pretty sure both made by the same megacorp in China.
Lol I was gonna say the same thing
If the manufacturing process is the same, it doesn't matter who makes it. The key is who does the quality control.🤔
@@山田太郎-h4i8uNo, the most important thing is you got what you paid
wurth is also made in china.....
@@taktlosnixda2478and your 2buck iPhone too...
I'll remember not to apply more than 400 kg with my hand. Thanks.
Said force or more could easily be achieved by 'hand' with the addition of a 'cheater bar/pipe'!
Lmao 🤣☠️💀🤣☠️💀😂 best comment
On site cheat bars are used all the time with people putting there whole body weight on them to get bolts off. That must achieve something close to 400 kg
Jajajajajajajajajajajajajaja you make me laugh!!!! 😂
75 plp n this guy have no clue 😂
I don’t know about you guys but I’m pretty impressed with the actual socket used!
Solid metal is stronger than tooth on a gear ....whats so surprising about that ?
@@jwanilpatel3223 The mechanism was stronger than the solid metal square for more than half the tools here. The socket is actually pretty badass.
@@just1ofozz they have a bulit in deformity in the square so it breaks before the mechanism.... solid metal is always gonna be stronger this not a argument this is literally general knowledge
I agree
Yes, cheap sockets would have rounded with that much forced.
高い負荷で内部の歯車や機構が破損する工具は日常的な負荷での故障も多いと思います。工具が壊れるほどの負荷をかける作業は滅多にありませんが、どの様に壊れたかを知り原因や適切な工具の形状と素材を考える事は次の買い物や道具の使い方で失敗をしない方法の1つです。その点でこの人の動画はとても有意義です♪
会社や商品で比較するのはいいけど、国につなげるのはちょっとね
@@user-uuueo ナショナリズムは社会生物種として否定できないし忘れ去る事もできない、脳幹の奥に刻まれた本能だから
さすがアメリカ製最高だ
观察的不错。大部分的扳手断裂都是与头部的金属疲劳有关，但一般也不会有人用到他能够金属疲劳的程度。这个视频的展示更多是娱乐性的，而非与扳手的功能好坏有什么关系。差一点的扳手依然能完成任务。具体还是看预算选购。
@@jyi9929その通り(o^^o)動画内での2$の工具以外は十分な耐久性があると思います。ヘッドにボルトが使用されている場合は振動でそのボルト自体が脱落する場合があるので購入の時に注意が必要です♪︎
As a modern engineer I’m not surprised that the 1970 wrench still took 1/2 the abuse and still was somewhat functional. New is cheaper, lighter, and economical to built but not always better. Modern cars are a great example of how crappy technology can be. You will never see a 2020 car survive until 2050 but yet all the cars built in 1970 have still made it to 2020. Sure they are heavy and get 15 mpg but they still made the journey and that’s what counts. Old engineering was built to last, not engineered to get you past the warranty so you can buy another. I will never forget my roots.
The problem is that is you who are not going to survive in case of a serious accident
@@silverdog63 do your studies and not what they are telling you. More deaths today because of cars completely crushing. Old cars stood through accidents, sure we had deaths but not from hitting a deer, tree, large cat, hog, wooden fence etc. these are all things today’s cars will clasped in a low speed accident. The same people telling you new cars are better are the same people telling you electric car are green and that the oceans are rising. Remember Florida and California were not supposed to have beaches by 2010!!! People need to learn common sense again not what the brochure is telling you written by the person who benefits you buying it.
Amen
Not all cars from 1970 have survived? What drug are you on? The 1970ies were known to produce some of the worst rust buckets ever built?
@@MeBallerman it’s good that you have an opinion but you make no sense. Look around you at the number of old cars that survived. The steel back than was 1/4-1/8 on the frame and 16 gauge doors, today,s cars are 30-26 gauge doors with lots of creases to make them sturdy. As an 43 year old engineer I seen it all and nothing built by corporate owned companies is built for the interest of surviving just to get by and sell them another. I will stand by my statement. But for your liberal tree hugging buddies a 1970 car probably didn’t survive if it was burned, crashed, found in the ocean on the Titanic I hope that clears it up for you!!
Thanks for the video. $70 wrenches must be better than $10 ones otherwise buyer will be mad. But the difference of broken point force doesn't justify the $60 cost difference LOL
Thanks, I will by 700$ wrenches, and stay hungry for the whole month.
The wrench Pittsburgh label is cheap and lifetime warranty. You take it to the H. Freight store and they will exchange it for a new one.
The difference being, if you need tools for home, perfectly fine to buy cheap. It's different when you rely on your tools to make a living. Spend a bit more to have the confidence that they won't let you down when they are needed to pay the bills.
It's not just the breaking point alone that has to justify the cost, there's also wear and long-term durability. You also have to consider the general performance of the tool and how well the mechachinism ratchets. A cheap, sloppy ratchet mechanism can be difficult to use in a tight operating space. So, you might want something high quality and precise.
it's a 15$ wrench and 55$ brand name since they are mostly made in CHINA,VIETNAM,and MEXICO
I’ve had my no name ratchet set for 35 years, works great.
But "Noname" back then was great quality
By the way: Würth is a German company, but they do not make their own tools. They buy them from all over the world and just put their name on. So the Würth ratchet in the video might actually be a Chinese one (although a good one). 🤣
Imagine the profits 😬
Yes, he should test hazet for Germany
@@MD-gr6so what do you mean? We use it every day
yeah, they couldn't even make one by themselves now
They're all useful, the $2 is an exception. But at the end its all market competition.
Id buy one for $10-$30 max & keep it for generations.
I'm Japanese, but I didn't know that Makita had manual tools.
They don't but China makes copies. Ha... Just joking
I recently started using their power tools. Excellent.
Label on bottom says "Made in China"!
For Japan it should be Koken wrench. Makita product is famous only electric handtool.
Nah, nepros
Klein... no electrician I know EVER uses Makita, anything.
KTC(KYOTO TOOL Co.Ltd 京都機械工具)
Electrician? He said electric tools and that is truth at least in europe.
日本ではTONEが有名です。
I can say that a $10 Chinese wrench is totally enough because I never saw a 400kg tightened screw...
the same $10 china wrench i bought in china with delivery cost $2. its not very good but could use. if you pay $10in china you can got german quality wrench
stupid test
@@nielsonzhen3751 Next time buy top Chinese brand.
It would be a bolt and some torque specs go into the hundreds of foot pounds.
El mecanismo es lo que fallara primero, con el uso diario es lo que fallan, sinla usas cientos de veces a la semana se quebra el mecanismo, lo digo por experiencia laboral, hemos quebrado 6 aprox en un año y las de mala calidad no duran ni 2 semanas.
For Germany: "Hazet" is THE number one for wrenches. A special brand for mechanics.
Würth is german too, but more an allround seller.
Stahlwile?Dowidat, Gedore,Usag,Facom,Unior?
Facom France
And the Würth Tool in this video is pretty sure made in China as well.
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Good review, testing method seemed quite consistent. Any of these rachets would work for me with the exception of the $2 No name rachet. 65 Kg of force is around 100ft-lbs (dependent on handle length), so I could break that. On Average, all the rachets broke around 1000 ft-lbs (+/-) except no name. Don't know about you but no nut I turn is torqued to 1000 ft-lbs, and even if it was, I don't have the physical strength to turn it let alone break it. It is after all, still a hand tool. The big difference would be the useability with the increased number of racheting teeth. The Wurth seems like a good balance between cost and number of teeth. For most home type applications, even the Fosage would last me a lifetime.
Pura cheater bar on it and ill bet you'll break em
@工业党驻油管代表处 不顺滑，差得太远。对我十块钱的也还行。够用不是特别烂。
You're wrong in your conversions. 65 kg is roughly 650 Nm (Newton-meters), which is about 480 lbf (pound-feet) of torque. This is more than most car engines produce and way, *way* more than you can do with bare hands. You would need either to step on the ratchet (if you turn vertically), or use a much longer lever to produce that torque. So even the $2 ratchet does the job for like 95% of everyday uses.
Nevertheless, personally I would opt for the Würth or the Makita.
100 pounds is not even close to 65 kgs..
65 kgs is the weight of an average chubby girl.
You could break it with your hand?
It is a pity that the representative made in Japan is "Makita". Japan has the strongest brands, "KTC" and "TONE".
@@andreaspallasch8372 I agree. I buy Würth only if I can't get something else.
They have j.o.b marvel tools as well not pretty but so professional better than all the usual "good" brands they sell us
@@andreaspallasch8372
"Japanese copied from nobody" yes they do through they entire history 🤣
Find out where Japanese writing, culture, weapons, construction methods and more come from
Would be nice to see each country’s best but that could get expensive quick.
Would love to see Snap On, MAC, Cromwell
@@demcq9534
need money to buy it all
Milwaukee is a quality tool. That’s all I use and never have problems with any of my drills or saws. Been using them for over a decade.
made in china❤
You should list them when finished. Would help to figure out what to buy! Thank you! Love your videos! 😀
Porównanie z dupy wykonaj identyczne otwory jak w pozostałych
Look at project farms channell he does a more comprehensive test and lists
@@lutomson3496 he has good site!
If you buy based on whether you can put 420 or 440kg with your hands, you are buying on the wrong things… I think the Japanese and the German one are better for work because of the handle.
For the quality, Milwaukee wins
For the price at kg/$, Forsage wins
$1 for 8.24 kg Versus $1 for 38.50 kg
Maybe all of them were made in China except 1970s, even the hydraulic press😂😂
that's true different price different quality
😅😅are you kidding me this is a joke who told you they’re made in china this is bullshit
The more expensive ones will most likely have better quality. This video can calculate the cost-effectiveness, but it cannot tell which country’s products have better or worse quality.
that's true
exactly!
I have the Milwaukee Ratchet ,I purchased it with the 106 piece socket set. I am completely satisfied with it. I really love the sockets as well , worth every penny (to me ).
That old ratchet had survived through tough times until the owner decides to put to its limit.
Ya era para museo .
Yes. What a sin.
Yeah, it wasn't right to do that to the old wrench. 😥
The 'Owner' is the key word here. While you own your opinions, you did NOT own this ratchet.
@@QuadMech still a sin. Just because you own something, it doesn’t mean you should destroy it. If I owned a rare car would you think it was fine to destroy it?
After seeing this test and the prices, if I had to choose I would buy 4 pcs for 10$, two (one for backup if the other one is damaged/lost) in a portable tool box for working outside the city + one in the car tool box + one in the home + 1 can of WD-40 spray lubricant! 😂😂😂
German said, if you buy good quality tools, you buy it one time!
Thank you for showing the strength of these materials.
👍👍👍
What purpose would it have served? Can you apply such high force using your hands?
@@TheIldebrandoz with time you would have the Same result.
70’s: Jamming, but useable. Gotta love the 70’s.
They don’t make em like they used to, huh?
The 70's was all about jamming 😊
If you are strong enough to break any of those you don't need a wrench. Milwaukee don't have safety mechanism in square so that's why it hold the most.
That's right. See how it flew off. Could be lethal damage if not taken care of.
Your test is unfair. If you want to test the quality made by different countries, should select the products with the same prices from those countries.
沒關係，這裡其實都是中國貨，扳手是，液壓機是，連攝像機也是，甚至看這個視頻的手機也是。😂
My phone is built in Korea Thank You very much👍@@gushui
@@eppyz 中国制造后，又包装成韩国制造，高价卖给你们这些傻子的。
@@eppyz韩国手机越南皂
@@gushuiBest comment 😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉
I guess I’m buying Milwaukee from now on!
A follow-up video, part 2, demonstrating Crasftsman, Husky, Kobalt, Matco, Mac Tools, Blue-Point & Snap-On ratchets.
Yes we all need to see Craftsmen & Snap-On. Craftsmen isn't what it used to be so I bought my first Snap-on. Cost as much off the Snap-on truck as a very big Craftsmen set. I think S.O. is much better than C. but I'd like to see the test.
Will you ever put 500kg on it?
Lol, no, never. But with a possible lifespan of 80 years, life is short, so I would like to know which wrench will outlast me by a thousand years and then some. Just enjoy!
On a side note, I have had a cheap ratchet wrench shear on me...I clearly outlasted that one.
@@mikekelly5869 How many of have used a 4 foot cheater pipe on a rachet?, I have!
I have a German 'Hazet' 1/2 wrench from the late 80's still going strong! Looks similar to the Würth in the test.
Good old hp 916❤️
@@PSNeko no HP, but it reads 916-SP. Thnx, Lukas, I never knew the type nr, checked it just now for the first time after 30+ years.
@@baeruuttehei1393 HP is the new version. I also got the 916-sp. Love it :)
Wenn du damit professionell arbeitest ist Hazet sicher 1. Wahl. Für mich als Gelegenheitsschrauber daheim wäre Makita oder KS allerdings ausreichend. Ist halt einfach nur die Frage des Preis/Leistungs/Gebrauchsverhältnis. Oft billig kaufen ist langfristig so teuer wie 1 x Hazet kaufen
Was hier nicht getestet wurde Proxxon. Mein Akkuequipment ist Makita, Handequipment fast ausschließlich Proxxon.
not German, but Nazi
All made in China licensed by the foreign brands.
O importante não está só na força de alavanca mas sim na quantidade de trabalho dos carretos internos que conforme o tempo e esforço de desgaste começa a folgar e avaria.
Nunca homem algum vai fazer essa força.
O desgaste interno é o fator mais importante.
Concordo com vc.
É a durabilidade no dia a dia de trabalho.
Asi es compa...👍
Cool test! I was quite surprised at how much abuse that 2 dollar ratchet took to be honest!
It only made it to 50 that's nothing. I've broken so many of those things. It's probably equivalent to like 100-200 Newton meters of torque
What is cool here? Destroying good tools for ...what? Nothing.
@@nebojsasinjkevic1358totally agree 😊!
The test only shows the load that can be endured. but no one manages to muster this strength. Since I have worked with most of these tools, I can confidently say that the Würth is the one that fits best in the hand and is the best to work with.
As a heavy duty diesel tech Ill tell you Ive broken a few 1/2” snap-on and mac tools ratchets. Granted I was using a cheater bar to try and break some really tough bolts free. Ive never broken a 3/8 drive ratchet with my hand it definitely takes extra leverage.
you should work with german tools, dont play...
Any self respecting "heavy duty diesel tech" should know the difference and never use a cheater on a ratchet.
@@juanfo7307 heavy duty diesel tech? wow. i didnt know, the US are so stupid....Play again.....
@@juanfo7307 as a good diesel tech you should know 1/2 drives have smaller profiles than a 3/4 drive and some times you gotta do what you gotta do to get the job done. Thats why I buy quality tools because they have life time warranty and will just get it fixed/swapped out when my tool guy comes. Lol Ive been doing this over 13 years If its in a semi truck Ive done it
@@juanfo7307 and breaker bars break just like ratchets, and yes Ive heated bolts red hot to break em loose but you can’t always use the torch. How long have you been working with tools? Since you know it all apparently
My tools from the 1970s are still going strong thanks. 🤓
As a man who's broken a 3/8 ratchet by hand I can tell you the most painful part is the shock in your hand. And then almost hyper extending your elbow after is the worst.
Will recommend the cheapest one,normally your hands strength won't be so strong.
You can put a pipe on the handle of the rachet, and you will be able to break even the "good" ones just by hand. It happened to me several times (Würth, Makita, Proxxon, Hazet)
65kg?
@@GrafHolock I don't usually use this for high torque. This type wrenches is just for convenient. My colleague used for a year, I use four years.
Problem with cheap ones is not just material strength which is decent but some times moving parts are off in dimensions or don't have an optional design.
I.e. a loose racket wrench.
What I want to know is what brand socket that is. For it to not split apart under those pressures is amazing. The only word I can see on that socket is “Forged”. I’ve had other cheaply made sockets spread apart by only using hand power.
Thank you for this video. You have shared valuable information. Some in the comments refuse to convert that to wisdom. I just built a 10m radio tower and ballast with my 1940's Snapon ratchet/gauge... but y'all can just keep talkin trash and livin your best life.
as car mechanic in germany i can say würth make good tools, but when you test this with Hazet or Gedore it will reach the 1000kg mark :D
Don't forget: you only paid $2 for cheap tools, you'll get what your paid for. It's not bad for home use. ( Normally people don't use tools everyday)
Interesting video. They all seem over dimensionsed to be honest. Clearly they can all handle more pressure than they would ever see in daily use. So the winner is probably the lightest.
It's an intetesting test, but as many other, for high torque bolts/nuts I dont use this kind of tool until I have loosed it a bit.
For me its much more important how many teeth it has, how is the grip etc.
That is true. I use a simple breaker bar for high torgue.
You have become Milwaukee's best salesperson.
still made in China
Diese Ratsche sollte man einmal mit Produkten von Hazet oder Gedore vergleichen!
Never imagined something made in America would be the best quality.
Conclusion: A mid - class ratchet will do its job, like almost always. Thanks, very interesting!
These are ALL. Cheap ratchets ! A good ratchet cost $300
@@clarkgriswald1768 What in the world does a $300 ratchet (in the same size class as these) can do any better? Does it make effing coffee?!
@@ThatGoat has a nice fat handle ,so it can be used at play time
@Hakim Mohamad ergonomics would be a good consideration too.
Conclusion: Never buy Chinese.
The Würth Wrench is NOT Made in Germany, so its just a wrench with a german brand name.
Correct. Würth Zebra is made in Taiwan. This one here is new and Not availible here in Germany.
in deutschland benutzen alle makita
@@robinhood768 Nö. Ich z.B. Wera oder PB Swiss.
Warum nicht mal ne Ganzstahl Ausführung von Stahlwille, Hazet oder Gedore...? Das der Milwaukee 4 Kant mehr aushält liegt einzig daran das es Vollmaterial war und keine Bohrung hatte wie die anderen Probanden.
Milwaukee for the win! That's a buttload in pounds. Most did far better than I would have guessed.
I'm sold for that Milwaukee wrench! Proudly made in the USA!
Bom meus amigos, eu trabalhando na mecânica de aviação com ferramentas de fabricação americana e de fato elas são extremamente boas de trabalho seguras e forte o bastante pra toda vida.
O vídeo é muito bom 😁
Gostei bastante e mandei pra meus amigos mecânico e que ama mecânica
As ferramentas desse vídeo são todas chinesas.
São chinesas mas as marcas não. Mesmo que sejam produzidas na China elas seguem projeto e especificações dos países de origem. Seria a mesma coisa que dizer que o Iphone é chinês porque é fabricado na China.
@@memnochdk Eu nasci no Brasil mas meus pais me planejaram e fizeram em uma viagem no canadá então sou Canadense? kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
@@XxGearx ué vc é uma ferramenta? Rsss. Mas a lógica contrária pode ser usada, Seus pais são brasileiros , te planejam no Brasil, você é concebido e nasce na China, vcs voltam pro Brasil, vc é chinês? Rsss
@@paulotrigo1 NON CREDO SIA VERO
Thank you can you please test Snap-on, Matco, and Mac brands? These are the top 3 USA professional brands.
yeah.. and also the German brands like Stahlwille, Gedore, Hazet and Elora.
or japanese brands like KTC, Tone and Koken
My Summary:
Forsage, China: $10, 385 Kg
Wurth, Germany: $35, 436 kg
Makita, Japan: $45, 443 Kg
Milwaukee, USA: $70, 577 Kg
noname: $2, 65 Kg
Old 1970': 209 Kg
Thanks for the video!!
Thanks for the amazing video!!! Tip: Next time you make a video, make sure you clean the lens of your camera before shooting. 😅
The Chinese "FORCE" 30mm socket is the really strong one here
CHINA NUMBA ONE
And cost only $10.
"FORCE" is from Taiwan, not China.
@@alfajujRepublic of China😂
Clark Kent watching this be like 🤔 " what set should I buy?"
Whoever have such strength as the machine that test the wrench must be a VERY Strong man.
I would buy the $2 one or old wrench 1970 and it probably last me 20-40 years
Hell no, the 2$ will break at the first time you will put some force on it.
But the 10$ is enough.
For those of you talking about human strength. It’s common practice to use leverage or to hit the wrench so this is useful. Also heavy pressure in a short time can indicate over a long time.
Also
Assuming you didn’t loose it, stolen or borrowed! Lol
Congratulations!
By the way what are you trying to prove?
Because Ratchet drives are ment for Faster assembly/dis-assembly and not as an Torque wrench.
While assembling always use the Ratchet only till you can feel some resistance later you can use a breaker bar and if you want a proper work then use a Torque wrench set for the particular bolt.
However while dismantling bolts over 1/2 " or 12 mm avoid using the Ratchet with 1/2" drive to loosn. Use a breaker bar! In fact I always use a breaker bar and try to TIGHTEN the fastener a bit and if it moves a bit then I try to loosen it till I don't feel much resistance. Later I can use the Ratchet or even a speeder handle if required.
Thanks.
I have never seen Makita wrenches in Japan. Ko-ken is best Japanese wrench.
Very interesting and useful video.! Congratulations.!!
Thanks for the video. I definitely go for the $10 wrench. I don't think I can (without a machine) apply 385kg force to break the $10 wrench. Looks like it's a $10 lifetime wrench to me. Best buck for the quality.
Good to know the limits of your tools for your safety 😁
My thought is, I’d rather have a wrench that had the drive square fail, as opposed to the mechanism. Two reasons; the drive square would (or should be) an easily) replaceable, and secondly it gives me more confidence in a high use item that the ratchet will hold up.
Yea that’s what I was thinking, makes the German and Japanese ones the better choice as they don’t have an integral square (and are also cheaper than the American one). It’s why deliberate points of failure can be very useful as safety features.
Actually goes way back to the Romans, they mass produced javelins and designed the tips to be replaceable and fail, this mean the javelins in most cases could be repaired easily just by replacing the tip, prevented enemies from picking up their javelins and throwing them back to the romans, also means that they got stuck in enemy shields, making them heavy and much less useful, forcing enemies to ditch them and neutralising shield walls.
Drive square is not a standard part it is probably a casting with integral teeth and unique to each brand and model.
It is probably not readily available as a spare so not easy or cheap to replace.
The head of the Milwaukee tool seems larger, which could be a problem working in cramp areas. One thing that is not addressed is the length from the center of the socket to where the press pushes at the wrench. The longer this length is, the more torgue is put on the wrench given a certain kg push. The Milwaukee tool seems longer thus the press seems to push further away from the center of the socket, so it has taken even a higher torgue than the other wrenches... But that price is not for me.
Brands are just B.S. these days. Everything seems to be made in China now, regardless of what country the brand may have originated in.
Well, price could still differentiate quality. Higher price "usually" means better quality, but not always
Quem consegue imprimir tanta força na ferramenta assim ?
O mais importante nao é sua durabilidade, resistencia ao desgaste?
Its great to see america still makes the best tools
They're made in China tho
i think it would have been a fair comparison if all the tools were in the same price range
Should test the warranty on the wrenches & see if they replace or repair them 😁
Except, of course, the Chinesium one. Just sayin'.
Take the Milwaukee wrench back and they will as long as there is no pipe marks on it
This is really informative!
Back to unscrewing my remote control. 😂
That 2$ and 10$ wrench is the most cost effective. I will not bother having a pair of both, but i will probably still buy that 75$ for heavy duty job.
Bought both expensive and cheap wrenches. Cheap one i lend to my friend to avoid being called stingy guy.
@@zaldanzig you give a great idea thanks 😂
The Chinese one done better than what i expected
I will buy the $2 tool for everyday use and probably it will last for decades. Thanks for showing us. I feel sad though for wrecking the 70’s tool.
Are we just going to ignore the terminator level strength of that socket....it ate every wrench?!
Was thinking the same thing!
X2
What brand is the socket??
T1000
@@richardpalleschi4807 Force
In general, all went well, because how much leverage can a person exert in a squeeze? La diferencia para mí será la vida útil de cada uno .
Bueno un fuerte abrazo para todos
Es una de mis herramientas preferida 🇺🇾
if you would know...
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A 500 kg person could break all of them
American made is the way to go still today 💪🏻
In fact, even in China a $10 wrench is considered low-end product. China also manufactures very expensive wrenches, which may far exceed your purchasing power. BTW, I'd like to mention that the testing equipment in the video is also made in China, you can see company name on metal tag "蚌埠大洋传感系统工程有限公司".
Milwaukee is an american brand, but produces in germany, china, czech republic and Taiwan.. So far for american made. Also Würth is by far one of the lowest quality you can get in Germany. If you want something realy high quality, you´d buy Gedore or Hazet. Unlikely there is anything better than those two tool brands...
All of these gotta be better than any ratchets you get from an auto parts store. Those break pretty much instantly.
By hand too…
Ive used just about every major brand of rachet as a heavy diesel tech my favorite on to this day is the gearwrench i bought from carquest.
I am running a small scale motor garage & by the experience we are aware that USA tools are perfect.
But very high price is unbearable. Best solition is middle quality Chinese or Thaiwan tools.
There is a methodological problem: you apply the force at higher distances on long wrenches, meaning the torque is much higher. This makes the Milwaukee even more impressive
Not realy, the force was applied at the same distance from the rotation point for all tools regardless of the tools handle length. If you want to point out a methodological problem, then its, that the sample size of one per brand is way too small.
I don't appreciate when old ones are damaged for test..... :(
😁
their purpose is done , time to send them out one last time + everything can be fixed with enough money
Me either.... I cringed at that. It was a nice design, I thought, as well
@@SamFBM Purpose is done? WTF?
@@SamFBM Not ever gonna waste money on tools. Flea Market is packaged with old and sturdier tools.
Maybe by comparable priced items and compare. You obviously won't get the same results buying a 10 dollar item vs a 70 dollar one.
I like that over 12 million people watch this. I now know a good conversation opener.
It would take significantly more mechanical advantage to break any of these than the length of the handle allows haha. Anyone fitting a pipe over their ratchet to increase mechanical advantage should not be surprised if any of these break! Use the tool meant for the job
If you need a cheater bar to turn it, it's time to grab something pneumatic.
Now I know which one to buy when I want to test my hydraulic press.
The best video in the whole world
O bocal é super forte!Sobreviveu a todas as chaves
I love these test!.
Thanks. :)
Dengan perbedaan harga 7 kali lebih mahal,,saya akan membeli yang seharga $10,,
Banyak produk China murah tapi kualitas lebih baik dari yang mahal,,
I would point out the milwaukee, althought it started in the US, is owned and produced in China.
All of those told are made in china 😂
@@clipsedrag13 made in china yes, thought Makita is owned by japanese people, the video make it look like milwaukee is owned by US citizen, when it is not anymore.
@@elgrosdude7
Is that why China is so rich
Milwaukee, makita, wurth they are made i Taiwan not China it is a big difference
The socket wrench from Würth is not made in Germany, these are made in France by Facom, it is only made for a German dealer, if you want to test something made in Germany you should look for Gedore (not Red), Hazet, or Stahlwille.
That $10 wrench is good enough for me 😊. I don’t think I can force a wrench over 350 kg
I like the Japanese stuff...it never brakes, unless you have a use hydraulic press of course ☺
Indeed it only steps on the gas.
I like the milwaukee, its strong and the handle is all metallic so its very easy to clean.
I use Beta and Facom and they're great but the rubber/plastic handle will deteorate with the use and oil stains.
Milwaukee's ratchets are primarily made in Taiwan. Many of their hand tools, including ratchets and other mechanic tools, are produced in Taiwan, where there's a strong manufacturing base for high-quality tools. Some of their tools may also be produced in China, but Taiwan is the main source for their ratchets.
Brother, Taiwan is not a country. It is a province of China. It is just not under the control of the Chinese government. The international community has never recognized Taiwan as a country.
No teste vemos que o preço é coerente com a qualidade
Verdade.
Para uso doméstico 385 kg é bastante, pelo que a Chinesa é melhor no custo-benefício.
The most important thing I learned here is that you really can use a very expensive hydraulic press to destroy all socket wrenches. I'm not sure when I will find a use for that knowledge. But if the wrenches of the world ever start misbehaving, we'll know how to deal with them.
Thank you, best video watched recently. Could be better if there's a 10 secs count down till the break point.
It's really depends your need and budget. You probably won't be able to break any of them unless you extend the bar with a pipe. Of course, I will choose the 10$ made in China one, since it is cheep enough and good enough. Import tax is pretty high here in China.
And you can afford to break 7 of them for the price of the one that can take over 500kg, so probably save money too.
@@mikekelly5869 That's how it works in business. But there is such a subconscious in everyone's heart: I deserve the best.
@@红杏出墙-c7g And that's what allows companies to make lots of money by selling overpriced products. We all deserve the best, in our own heads, but we ususlly don't actually need the best, just what's good enough. I think that you and I think the same way.
@@mikekelly5869 Exactly.
@@mikekelly5869 The average human being can't release 500kg of pressure, so there's no point in spending extra money on an over engineered tool.
Está claro que la calidad hay que pagarla, pero también hay que tener en cuenta las condiciones y exigencias que se le a una herramienta en un trabajo determinado, si no se van a usar grandes palancas que aumenten las fuerzas enormemente todas ellas cumplen sin tener que pagarlas muy caras. Con los brazos no es fácil hacer las de cien kilogramos y si no se lo creen prueben con una dinamométrica, pero ojo que en algunos países a esta le llaman (mal llamada) dinamométrica cuanto está no permite saber la fuerza que estamos haciendo y soltar a la presión adecuada mientras que la que aparece en el vídeo es una lleve de carraca y simplemente vale para aflojar o apretar rápida y cómodamente ya sea por larga rosca o por poco espacio para mover la llave.
Well said,pro
$10 Chinese wrench after 385kg of force and could still stay in one piece! Thumbs up!!
If my hand can apply 300kg, I will take boxing as my career 😄