Never put equipment of that weight in your pockets. If your trouser rips, it could land on your feet and crush them. I always walked around with an 1000 pound anvil in my pocket and learned the hard way.
The Milwaukee definitely surprised me, wasn’t expecting it to continue to work. Funny how they’re not made in the USA, but they’re imported from Germany
the Milwaukee one is actually a relabeled/rebranded NWS and is the same as being sold under NWS, Engelbert Strauss and Berner for example... I got the Engelbert Strauss Version of some of their tools at home... damn good quality... like a lot of Knipex as well
Those expensive Milwaukee pliers are actually made in Germany. They have the "Solingen" marking on them. Solingen is a famous German steel producing town in the Ruhr valley. They are imported from Germany and sold under the Milwaukee brand in the USA. The "Milwaukee" logo appears to be only printed on them. The 1970s pliers have CRV marked on the handle, that usually means Chrome Vanadium steel, a very strong steel alloy.
Even funnier: Check where Knipex is located in Germany and where Solingen is. ;) Knipex is producing in Solingen as well so this "Milwaukee" pliers is actually a knipex product with milwaukee branding.
There are also a lot of unknown companies that manufacture for other brands, all about advertising and commercial business. Agreements to buy the name. ...business!
Nah the knipex is just not made for electrical use, heavier and multicomponent insulation grip would be inert for this video so he chose the simplest of each. Just that knipex has that option is indeed nostalgic in a way
The "US"-brand is clearly indicated as "Solingen". And that's in Germany. The more: to have a precise measurement of the cutting force the center of the nail to the turning point og the pliers AND the distance from that pont to the hydraulic press must be THE SAME in all experiments.
When measuring correctly, the nail must always be at the same distance from the axis of the pliers. The small deviation makes the big difference in the measurement. Of course, all nails should have the same diameter and hardness. Only below these processes can one properly condemn the tools. PS: The crush test must also be carried out in the same work step, i.e. the distance between the axis of the tongs and the press cylinder must always be the same during the measurement.
The funny thing is, that on the Milwaukee Blade is written „Solingen“, which is a german city known for its good blades. So it‘s not an american but also a german product in fact.
Most of Milwaukee products are made in China (2/3) some in Canada, Germany, Czechia, Taiwan. This video is aiming to show USA products are best, but no. Hopefully they are made to a US specification rather than just rebadged. Current Milwaukee pliers are made in Taiwan.
True, thought the same. "NWS Tools Germany" is the real manufacturer of those. They have a variaty of qualities, from cheap to really good. I think they are competing with Knippex head on. However they always have that "little extra", for example the nut grabber in the cutting bay. I got a whole set of the VDE-Version; they are truely awesome.
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The distance from the hinge to the nail significantly changes the mechanical advantage/leverage of the tool and changes the amount of force required to be applied to the handles in order to cut the nail. The distance should ideally by the same in all comparison testing.
Less the absolute distance but the relative position on the cutting blade. If the design has a mechanical advantage this should also show over just how sharp the blade is. Especially since you can just take a file and sharpen them yourself.
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the milwaukee was also made in germany... you see the "Solingen" on the pliers... thats a city in germany, well known for factories prod. sharp knifes and good tools
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The Milwaukee is obviously a rebranded NWS Combimax that is made in Solingen, Germany. The Knipex and the NWS are both at 16 Euros here in Germany. Charging almost twice the price is incredible.
The Milwaukee pliers are stamped "SOLINGEN". This is a German designation of origin for quality tools from the town Solingen, Germany. Looks like NWS tools pliers.
It is not only looking, it is NWS pliers! Felo also use NWS as OEM supplier of pliers. Those unique features are patented (like Vampliers unique features, that are actually made in Japan by Engineer Inc.), so companies just pay and buy branded end product.
considering the time the old one is produced and beating many other products of today is a great story. Loved it. we dont have milwakee toos in Turkey. we use mostly german tools in our company.
It's important to measure the weight at equal distance from the pivot point since even if the downward force is the same, torque is greater when applied further away from the pivot point 💡
@@benco1085 yup! And another factor someone else mentioned is that the same thing applies to the nail. It also needs to be kept at a constant distance from the pivot!
Like the test but anyone who has used side cutters (linesman pliers) knows that putting the nail or wire etc farther back in to the cutter makes the cut easier. If the same nail is in different positions on the different tools cutter, it will effect how much force is needed to cut whatever it is your cutting.
@@tamas7555 the best way to test it is on the edge of the straight of the arms before they angle. And pressure should be made at an angle for maximum efficiency. Like a 21 degree angle. Like you put pressure on pliers if it is too strong to cut the less energy costing way, where the arms are edging and press straight down. Everyone can understand the pliers are way less effective there to cut though stuff and easely break if you put some muscle into it.
i have at home SIX, yes 6, of those pliers from 1970 :)). they were bought sometime between 1983 and 1985 but anyway, its exactly that like in the video. and they still resist, they are awesome
Milwaukee. Is a US brand. but the pliers shown in the video were produced in Solingen, a city in Germany. It even says on the tongs. Its name is the only city in the world to be protected as a trademark. A novelty that Solingen owes to its cutlery industry: more than 600 years of blade and metal craftsmanship characterize the cityscape. So it is not a US pliers. But a Solingen on which Milwaukee printed its name. Nice greetings from Germany. And thank you for liking our tool. I myself like US trucks better than German cars😁.
Felt sorry for the 70s pliers-they’d managed to survive for that long and were qualitative enough to put a nice competition with the other ones. Nice vid though!
From a person who has to use side cutters every day, great video! I would just point out though that the Milwaukee pliers are a German design, and are also made in Germany.
Also I pointed out (having used linesman pliers for 20+ years) that putting a nail or wire farther back towards the pivot will decrease the force needed to cut something. A few of the tests the nail was in different positions and farther forward will increase the force needed.
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I think the lesson here is unless you have a way to apply 1,000 pounds of pressure to a pair of linesman pliers, get vintage pliers at a yard sale or swap meet for $2.
Yeah right!? Old stuffs were made to last… New stuffs just compromise quality for a lower price. Anytime I browse people’s yard sale, I always look for good old stuff. They don’t make them like that anymore! Or you need to fork out $45 for a pair of pliers!
@@ChieflauNYC yep! I have the 1970 pliers. They were mu grandpa’s. I didn’t even have to pay $2! I try to use at least one of his tools on every project I do.
They all will last forever as long as you don’t put it under a hydraulic press😂😂😂 that is why they call it hand tools🤦🏻♂️ specifically designed to be used by your hands not on a freakin press😫
@@ChieflauNYC "compromise quality"? Maybe if you're using the pliers to prop up your car, but most people use pliers with their hands, and none of these pliers would break in your hands. So I think it's worth it to compromise its lifetime under a hydraulic press to have a lower price
Wow, the "Milwaukee" pliers is actually a German NWS Combimax just with different grips and the Milwaukee logo slapped on it. I can buy that exact same model for about 25 dollars here in Switzerland, but since Switzerland generally has higher prices than the rest of Europe, I'm sure you can buy it for even less in the European Union. That margin is ridiculous..
Yes the Milwaukee is Made in Germany you can get it for 17 Doller. The German from Knipex is the 12 Doller and the cheapest Knipex you can get. The NWS is 17 Doller. Prices in Germany
For this test to be truly equal the press needs to apply pressure the same distance from the pivot point on each tool. Otherwise short handle tools will seemingly get higher numbers due to less torque at the handle. Remember Torque = Force x Distance. Or in this case, Force = Torque / Distance.
which goes some way to explain how I broke a pair of 3 foot long (approx) manual cable shears many years ago when chopping up some cables that in hindsight might actually have been a tad too much for them - no hydraulic press required!
For amateur of all amateurs I'm very happy to go with Chinese $3 dollar shop plier. No way I can apply 200KG+ force on it, looks the quality is actually better than I expected. But of course if I'm a Pro then it is a different story.
Side cutters aren’t designed to cut 4mm nails. Totally agree for ‘amateur’ / diy / infrequent use budget pliers are probably sufficient, however if you’re an electrician using them day in day out got for the best / most durable you can afford.
@@jojojo9240 If you are someone who works for a living with these tools everyday, it´s ok to spend more in quality. But if you are an office employee who just want a plier to hold a nut or cut some wire at home, the cheaper one will be enough. Just that.
If he had used expensive Polish tools and cheap German tools, the result would have been completely different. The German tool should work six times better to be profitable, but it's not.
Interesting video. As an Australian, I would have to say that, while most of the brands tested are available here, they are not the most common. I suspect that the Chinese offerings are sold here by major hardware and automotive accessories chains under their own brand names. The best known Australian brand is Sidchrome, I have two of their 160mm combination pliers. One from the 1970s with handles dipped in PVC as insulation, one from the 1980s with fancy moulded grips and chrome plating. The earlier model is much thicker and made of harder steel. Unfortunately, many Sidchrome tools are now made in China. I would love to see a comparison with an Australian made Sidchrome, Swedish Bahco and a quality Japanese brand such as Hozan. I would expect the Bahco to be at least as good as Knipex. Unfortunately, I don't have a massive hydraulic press in my garage, so I'll have to be content with speculation.
I have a pair of heavy duty Klein side cutters from the 90's and as much hell as I've put them through cutting random things that needed to be cut, they've outshined any cutters i have. Still sharp, still in perfect condition. They're about $40 at Home Depot for a pair of the same side cutters.
You can’t test this way, ITS WRONG the distance from the nail to the shaft should be the same on all models and also the distance from the press to the shaft should be the same
Just by looking at them from the begining I would only buy and use the german and US ones. They look like they can get the job done right the first time and last for 30 years.
As an electrician i cringed when the first subject to be cut was a freaking nail for 2 reasons: -wire cutters are made to cut COPPER WIRES. Yeah some can cut nails too, but you'll notice a reduction in effective wire cutting quite quickly if you do decide to use it for things it wasn't intended to do. -there are so many better tools to deal with nails in whatever situation. It is like using a regular pair of scissors to cut down a tree. You shouldn't and you might get through a tree eventually, but both you and the scissors are worse off.
As an asshole in concrete, they do a lot more than tie up junction boxes. They'll cut steel wire, steel mesh, tie wire, remove nails, and a many more fun and games.
Why does that matter? This is already a pointless video because no one is gonna accidentally break their pliers by applying 200 kg force on the handles.
I love how germany won place 1 and 2, because the USA one said "Solingen" on it and this is a town in germany that is famous for their blades. So I guess it was in some way manufactured in germany too.
Milwaukee ... stamped "Solingen". The tool maker town of Germany. Btw. some damage on the cutting edge are resulting of the plier tongues snapping close against each other after cutting the nail. You don't want the snapping counter force down your wrist. 4 mm steel is needing a dedicated heavy wire cutter. The costs of injuring your hand/wrist is higher than buying the proper tool.
Not sure if this was an accurate test because 1) the nail didn’t look like it was put in the same place in each pliers and 2) the distance between the center of the jaw pin to the center of the press shaft looked different for each pliers. The distance between the end of a lever and where the fulcrum is can make a huge difference in the amount of force required to move the lever.
Just another test that is inaccurate, well to a degree. As for sake the best tool was the 1970 model. You are right but the quality of the alloy and thicknesses (amount) of metal used plays a role as well.
Ofcourse it's not accurate I'm sure a 2 dollar china to a 45 dollar "USA" isn't the same. It should at least be the same price if not country. It's not accurate at all to compare them.
Best American-Made lineman's pliers are Klein J-2000, but they weren't tested. And I think those Milwaukees are made in Germany, at least that's what the stock number shows
Incrível como os grãos do aço, bem ali na ruptura, do alicate da década de 70, são quase imperceptíveis. Isso demonstra a qualidade no tratamento que foi dado bem como indica que as discordâncias na estrutura cristalina foram minimizadas: "se as discordâncias não se moverem, a deformação plástica não ocorre!"
Creo más bien que no observaste bien el área transversal de la parte que se vence y rompe. El grosor en esa parte que se corta es muy muy pequeño en comparación a las otras pinzas, sí se llega a notar el grano pero hay que poner mucha atención. Velo en cámara lenta. Es aún más sorprendente ver que una pequeña área transversal soporta lo mismo que otras con mayor área transversal.
i used to have these Finnish made pliers somewhere from the early 1900s and I swear i could cut 6 mm nails no problem hand forged by a skillful blacksmith in the ages of peak tool making
Interesting: The Wilwaukee one shows the name of my hometown ‚Solingen‘, which is a town in Germany and famous for its knifes and cuttleries, e.g. Zwilling, Güde, Dreizack etc.
the thing about tools is this: How many times have you been in a jam or had a major problem, and something as mundane as a hand tool, rescued you? I love 'em and collect them whenever i can.
I have those side cutter pliers in my tool box. They are SOLID!! Use them all the time and now realize I'll have a hard time replacing them if I ever need to
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I’m 72 and the last compression test I did I scored 35 kilos..so I’ll be good with my 40 year old Klein until I can’t squeeze no more. I always love watching tests like this.
All about moments of force, the comparison should have been made with hydraulics resting on the levers of all pliers with same distance from the fulcrum. Same goes with the nail used as load. I think the data is not that accurate as it looks.. but intersting video nonetheless ☺️👍
Nice discussion here, sometimes in addition about the impact of the position of the press intender on the handle. But if you compare the results of the destroiying test, the question is. What value do we get with a load difference between 282 to 453 kg, a load which nobody can intend with the hand on the grippers. Even by extending the grippers with two tubes of apr. 20 - 25 cm it is not possible to get such load into the pliers. The only reasonable test is the cutting test, but as mentioned, with such a big nail and a load of minimum 120 kg, this is also not realistic because no one can bring up this force with the hand. Such plier cutters are limted to smaler steel wire maybe up to 2 mm and copper wire. Important for the quality is the cutter sharpness and even more the durability by a correct heat treatment.
There are a couple of people in the world that can generate 120 kg++ of pinching force with 1 hand. I bet if they extend the grippers that they can get something similar to those numbers.
On the Milwaukee USA (?) pliers you can read, Solingen. That is a city in Germany. In that city there is a factory that produces the Knipex plier blades. You can connect the dots yourself....
That unbranded pliers from an early 70's were made in West Germany. Pliers that didn't have the name of the brand on them were made of a less quality steel believe it or not. That is what a cheap pliers would be back then in DDR. Yet they are almost as good as a brand new Knipex and Milwaukee. I see them a lot on a flea markets here in EU.
In my daily life as a motor bike mechanic, I have broken over 4 pliers so far and still counting . I just had to put this here to feel better about my accomplishments
@TH-cam Commenter Good point. Poor quality has always been around. Though I´m not sure overall. There were no home depot shops with chinese trash offers back in the 70ies. It was more normal to repair something and not just dump and rebuy things. Maybe mantality was more quality friendly. And people asked a pro to do the job.
@@user-ge8dn8sc4n Yes, I personally find tools made in the Republic of China (Taiwan) to be of very high quality. However, in my branch of precision engineering, tools made in Switzerland are the actual standard... high-quality products require the best tools and materials without compromise...
Thank you. What a shame the strength of my hands are limited. Are the milwaukee pliers made in Solingen ? Is that Solingen the knifemaker city in germany or US ? Solingen and google ... a lot (nearly all) german premium tool brands are produced in the area Solingen and Remscheid.
No matter which country is the tool produced in, one thing is always true: high price=high quality. Vice versa. Countries like China also have excellent tools, it just depends on whether you are willing to pay more.
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I would have liked to see more consistency in the placement of the nail. Just 1 mm forwards or backwards will have a huge impact on the force needed to cut the nail
Interesting test. But in my opinion if all the pliers are at different price points, it would be mildly inappropriate to specify which countries they were from. And the fact that you didn't put the nail in the same position for each test just renders the outcome of the tests flat out worthless. Milwaukee one is from Germany as well btw.
There is a comment that went somewhat unnoticed, in which a Polish said that "Yato" manufactures all the tools in China, and that the best from Poland is "Coval" or "Kuźnia". In good faith I believe in his words; because in the test there is a little cheating by presenting an American pliers that is actually German. Greetings from Chile.
Excellent Work :-)) The Milwaukee are made by NWS of Germany, just like some of their screwdrivers are made by Witte of Germany, Good quality and on par with Whia, Wera, Felo and Gedore/Stahlwille :-))
I spent many years welding pipe and you cut alot of tig wire doing that. 316L 5/32" stainless tig wire will let you know if your side cutters are any good. The best pair I ever had as far as cutting with less hand applied pressure were a pair of Heavy Duty Craftsman. They lasted about 6 years until one of the jaws broke off and by then Craftsman no longer made them the same. What they called their new heavy duty side cutters were trash and I went back to my old Klein J-2000s, which is what the majority of tig welders use.
Only reason why you don't see everyone in the comments going "cHiNa pRoDuCt cHeAp n wOrThlEss" Couldn't confirm their bias on this one hahahahhahaahahhaa
Well we live in a world where people should really stop using throw away products that dont last long. Also the price could also be cheap not just because of low quality material but also what the people who make them get.
@@smarty265 the dollar goes further in many other countries. you can get better standard of living on a lower budget in China than the US. with the amount of automation throughout the supply chain the human cost is less and less relevant, it's just that China has built massive factory cities with massive economy of scale, many are not easily replicated in other nations which is why so many factories are still in China even with China being antagonized and higher labor cost than the other SE Asian nations. the US used to have factory cities back in the day when they were producing for the world, but they are now a part of the rust belt. not easy to mobilize a work force of hundreds of thousands, build an entire city ecosystem revolved around manufacturing, the bureaucracy alone is difficult for many nations. China has structured itself to reduce red tape for massive mega projects and adapted to it for decades now. way too simple to just say China products suck and cheap because cheap labor, trade would have never established there if better competitors exist. cheaper labor has not been an advantage of China for a long time now
I would love to see some pry bars, including the Milwaukee pry bars because they claim the I beam design won't bend, so when they do reach that failure point are they going to snap(which seems like the worst thing a pry bar could do when failing)
I would say that the greater part of the population that uses these tools to make a living using them know the advantages/disadvantages of each brand! I use this video as strictly entertainment as it was enough to watch the entire video!
the "american" product called "Milwaukee" does not come from the USA. It also comes from Germany, from Solingen to be precise, and has the ISO standard 5746, which was also developed in Germany.
I see a problem with a nail posotion - regarding the arm of the force applied over the lever. this should be an unified parameter over the testing cases.
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"Do not repeat at home"...Me, slowly stuffing my 4 ton hydraulic press back into my pocket
Yeah, I whipped out 7 of them only to have to put them away, bloody time waste.
U now u are able to stuff it in ur pocket, when you are a boy
Never put equipment of that weight in your pockets. If your trouser rips, it could land on your feet and crush them. I always walked around with an 1000 pound anvil in my pocket and learned the hard way.
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The Milwaukee definitely surprised me, wasn’t expecting it to continue to work. Funny how they’re not made in the USA, but they’re imported from Germany
It's Germany or Germany in the end XD
Not surprised.All Americans can make now is credit card debt.
the Milwaukee one is actually a relabeled/rebranded NWS and is the same as being sold under NWS, Engelbert Strauss and Berner for example... I got the Engelbert Strauss Version of some of their tools at home... damn good quality... like a lot of Knipex as well
@@orctrihar Solingen.
@@derKarl_stp Irwin has NWS rebranded pliers too
Those expensive Milwaukee pliers are actually made in Germany. They have the "Solingen" marking on them. Solingen is a famous German steel producing town in the Ruhr valley. They are imported from Germany and sold under the Milwaukee brand in the USA. The "Milwaukee" logo appears to be only printed on them. The 1970s pliers have CRV marked on the handle, that usually means Chrome Vanadium steel, a very strong steel alloy.
Yep, made by NWS
Thank you Miranda
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I just deleted my post cause i noticed your reply about that Solingen brand (that is a city also), where i'm been visiting that company XD !!!
I'm very happy to have, and use, my dad's old pliers - he had those as a mechanic for as long as I can remember.
Still very useful!
I love how your "US" tool is actually from Germany "Solingen" (known for their knifes).
My country (Argentina) used to buy blades for sabres from Solingen in the 1800 and 1900 i think.
Even funnier:
Check where Knipex is located in Germany and where Solingen is. ;)
Knipex is producing in Solingen as well so this "Milwaukee" pliers is actually a knipex product with milwaukee branding.
There are also a lot of unknown companies that manufacture for other brands, all about advertising and commercial business. Agreements to buy the name. ...business!
@@rPaul_werner_1967 It's actually not Knipex, it's nws
@@rPaul_werner_1967 Hab mich als solinger auch gerade drüber geärgert. Gilt das eigentlich schon als kulturelle Aneignung?^^
I like how the german ones come in the least flashy packaging, have the most humble insulation and a general vibe of old timey quality. Love them.
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Nah the knipex is just not made for electrical use, heavier and multicomponent insulation grip would be inert for this video so he chose the simplest of each. Just that knipex has that option is indeed nostalgic in a way
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@@ichnichdu123yuki6 knipex. the nazi brand. they make weird stuff. not for me. i had a few of their stuff back in the day. its unamerican.
As a professional auto tech I only use Knipex. The quality, feel, and longevity are the best I've used.
The "US"-brand is clearly indicated as "Solingen". And that's in Germany.
The more: to have a precise measurement of the cutting force the center of the nail to the turning point og the pliers AND the distance from that pont to the hydraulic press must be THE SAME in all experiments.
When measuring correctly, the nail must always be at the same distance from the axis of the pliers. The small deviation makes the big difference in the measurement. Of course, all nails should have the same diameter and hardness. Only below these processes can one properly condemn the tools. PS: The crush test must also be carried out in the same work step, i.e. the distance between the axis of the tongs and the press cylinder must always be the same during the measurement.
The funny thing is, that on the Milwaukee Blade is written „Solingen“, which is a german city known for its good blades. So it‘s not an american but also a german product in fact.
They are manufactured by NWS, who do produce a lot for companies who print their Name on Products.
Finally, thanks!
its an imported product xD
Most of Milwaukee products are made in China (2/3) some in Canada, Germany, Czechia, Taiwan. This video is aiming to show USA products are best, but no. Hopefully they are made to a US specification rather than just rebadged. Current Milwaukee pliers are made in Taiwan.
@@jonwragg3822 the one in the video was in fact german and is a common model thats sold here...^^ just rebranded. the origin is inked on
I love how he tried not to show the "Made in Germany" on the Milwaukee Pliers. Solingen by the way is known for its tradition in knife and toolmaking.
True, thought the same. "NWS Tools Germany" is the real manufacturer of those. They have a variaty of qualities, from cheap to really good. I think they are competing with Knippex head on. However they always have that "little extra", for example the nut grabber in the cutting bay. I got a whole set of the VDE-Version; they are truely awesome.
And Yato is a Chinese company bought by tool trading company from Poland
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@@onursenturk5375 they talkinganout the Milwaukee tool
@@onursenturk5375 Just stop at 10:42 you can ez see the "Solingen" on the "US" Knife
I have the 1960-70's one, except it has two adjustment sizes. Better that anything I've ever had really.
I have a 40 year old knipex plier which my late father brought it from Saudi Arabia in the 80s and still to this day,it never disappointed me.
The distance from the hinge to the nail significantly changes the mechanical advantage/leverage of the tool and changes the amount of force required to be applied to the handles in order to cut the nail. The distance should ideally by the same in all comparison testing.
Less the absolute distance but the relative position on the cutting blade. If the design has a mechanical advantage this should also show over just how sharp the blade is. Especially since you can just take a file and sharpen them yourself.
Just watch the video. Nobody cares about the input you have. These videos are meant to be watched, not discussed. The TH-cam comment section is for sucking up to content creators and scamming everyone else, not discussing the videos.
technically it makes sense
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YEP. i was thinking about this too. the basic "law of the lever"
the milwaukee was also made in germany... you see the "Solingen" on the pliers... thats a city in germany, well known for factories prod. sharp knifes and good tools
This is NWS (Germany)
Solingen ist also in wuppertal. I live there😅
I'd like to see some Sheffield steel (English) ones for comparison. Either modern or vintage (pre-1980s) would have been interesting.
I have always found Sheffield steel to be the finest quality, have kitchen utensil that are more than 50 years old still going strong. British quality
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Solingen costs the same as the other german pliers at $25 each, but it became $45 because of the “Milwaukee” ink slapped on it.
Just like Harley Davidson.
Knipex is also a known brand but both are from Germany
you can just read Solingen on miwaukee
The Milwaukee is obviously a rebranded NWS Combimax that is made in Solingen, Germany. The Knipex and the NWS are both at 16 Euros here in Germany. Charging almost twice the price is incredible.
That's always been my problem with Milwaukee. Nice tools but ridiculous price on their name alone.
The Milwaukee pliers are stamped "SOLINGEN". This is a German designation of origin for quality tools from the town Solingen, Germany. Looks like NWS tools pliers.
It is not only looking, it is NWS pliers! Felo also use NWS as OEM supplier of pliers. Those unique features are patented (like Vampliers unique features, that are actually made in Japan by Engineer Inc.), so companies just pay and buy branded end product.
Haha lol
looks like Milwaukee knows where quality is coming from :D
Ja deutsche Wertarbeit
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considering the time the old one is produced and beating many other products of today is a great story. Loved it. we dont have milwakee toos in Turkey. we use mostly german tools in our company.
Enjoyed that test. I try to buy old tools when I see them at swap meets and such.
It's important to measure the weight at equal distance from the pivot point since even if the downward force is the same, torque is greater when applied further away from the pivot point 💡
Got there first this is really important as it could change the results by a massive amount
@@benco1085 yup! And another factor someone else mentioned is that the same thing applies to the nail. It also needs to be kept at a constant distance from the pivot!
Wanted to comment the same issue. If you try again with the 1970 plier with a longer distance, you will prob find same values Like for the Knipey
Who cuts nails with a pliers?
Who has a 200 Newton grip?? Brock Lesnar?
Like the test but anyone who has used side cutters (linesman pliers) knows that putting the nail or wire etc farther back in to the cutter makes the cut easier. If the same nail is in different positions on the different tools cutter, it will effect how much force is needed to cut whatever it is your cutting.
Wanted to write the same, but it's already here. As well lever arms were different. Thanks man.
That's absolutely true. However it makes no difference if the cutting part of the plier gets damaged or not, just on the lever
The lever arms must be facored in to come to a fair comparison. Basic maths actually. Force*distance so you dont need to redo the test.
@@tamas7555 It basic physics, not maths.
@@tamas7555 the best way to test it is on the edge of the straight of the arms before they angle. And pressure should be made at an angle for maximum efficiency. Like a 21 degree angle. Like you put pressure on pliers if it is too strong to cut the less energy costing way, where the arms are edging and press straight down. Everyone can understand the pliers are way less effective there to cut though stuff and easely break if you put some muscle into it.
i have at home SIX, yes 6, of those pliers from 1970 :)). they were bought sometime between 1983 and 1985 but anyway, its exactly that like in the video. and they still resist, they are awesome
Milwaukee. Is a US brand. but the pliers shown in the video were produced in Solingen, a city in Germany. It even says on the tongs. Its name is the only city in the world to be protected as a trademark. A novelty that Solingen owes to its cutlery industry: more than 600 years of blade and metal craftsmanship characterize the cityscape. So it is not a US pliers. But a Solingen on which Milwaukee printed its name.
Nice greetings from Germany. And thank you for liking our tool. I myself like US trucks better than German cars😁.
Felt sorry for the 70s pliers-they’d managed to survive for that long and were qualitative enough to put a nice competition with the other ones. Nice vid though!
Yes how these old pliers should have been preserved instead of destroying them
@@mannnnuuu C'mon, it's not like they're from 1770...
@@MrT3odor 52 years anyway
I feel sad. It looks like my father's pliers
i know... i felt that way too. like he destroyed a part of history.......
From a person who has to use side cutters every day, great video! I would just point out though that the Milwaukee pliers are a German design, and are also made in Germany.
Also I pointed out (having used linesman pliers for 20+ years) that putting a nail or wire farther back towards the pivot will decrease the force needed to cut something.
A few of the tests the nail was in different positions and farther forward will increase the force needed.
Thanks for letting us know they are from Germany.Can you tell us who makes BMW?
@@rickjeffjeff Not really, no! I'm not a car man to be honest, I'm more of a pliers type of guy!
Solingen.
@@rickjeffjeff BMW stands for Boston Motor Works 🏴 of course, or so I have been told! USA 🇺🇸 USA 🇺🇸 USA 🇺🇸 … 🤪 Nahhh… Bayerische Motoren Werke from Bavaria 🏴
Ok so who else knows someone who can break these cheap ones with one hand and has got a new found respect for that person
very very interesting video . lovely and amazing test
I think the lesson here is unless you have a way to apply 1,000 pounds of pressure to a pair of linesman pliers, get vintage pliers at a yard sale or swap meet for $2.
Yeah right!? Old stuffs were made to last… New stuffs just compromise quality for a lower price. Anytime I browse people’s yard sale, I always look for good old stuff. They don’t make them like that anymore! Or you need to fork out $45 for a pair of pliers!
@@ChieflauNYC yep! I have the 1970 pliers. They were mu grandpa’s. I didn’t even have to pay $2! I try to use at least one of his tools on every project I do.
I have a blacksmiths anvil in working order from 1790. It's still close to 56 rockwell hardness after 230 years of service.
They all will last forever as long as you don’t put it under a hydraulic press😂😂😂 that is why they call it hand tools🤦🏻♂️ specifically designed to be used by your hands not on a freakin press😫
@@ChieflauNYC "compromise quality"? Maybe if you're using the pliers to prop up your car, but most people use pliers with their hands, and none of these pliers would break in your hands. So I think it's worth it to compromise its lifetime under a hydraulic press to have a lower price
Wow, the "Milwaukee" pliers is actually a German NWS Combimax just with different grips and the Milwaukee logo slapped on it. I can buy that exact same model for about 25 dollars here in Switzerland, but since Switzerland generally has higher prices than the rest of Europe, I'm sure you can buy it for even less in the European Union. That margin is ridiculous..
You see on the "Milwaukee" the Name Solingen thats a region of Germany this one is Made in Germany too
In germany about 17 Dollar
@@DrFeger There is only one Milwaukee tool in the video so the OP is obviously talking about the same one.
@@krashd you dont get it, he said that the milwaukee has a made in solingen on it and thats a city in germany
Yes the Milwaukee is Made in Germany you can get it for 17 Doller. The German from Knipex is the 12 Doller and the cheapest Knipex you can get.
The NWS is 17 Doller.
Prices in Germany
To my fellow friend who was also made in the '70s. Good show.
Old is gold....the old one is winner according to its cost & age...
For this test to be truly equal the press needs to apply pressure the same distance from the pivot point on each tool. Otherwise short handle tools will seemingly get higher numbers due to less torque at the handle. Remember Torque = Force x Distance. Or in this case, Force = Torque / Distance.
yes, but ig they were nearly same distance, also torque = r X F, its cross multiplication so
i was gonna say
@@eugene9661 leverage can alter results. And they never go above and order some matco or snap on stuff..
which goes some way to explain how I broke a pair of 3 foot long (approx) manual cable shears many years ago when chopping up some cables that in hindsight might actually have been a tad too much for them - no hydraulic press required!
@@oksowhat There is only on direction of applied force so it would simplify to what the OP said.
For amateur of all amateurs I'm very happy to go with Chinese $3 dollar shop plier. No way I can apply 200KG+ force on it, looks the quality is actually better than I expected. But of course if I'm a Pro then it is a different story.
Why is it a different story then?
Side cutters aren’t designed to cut 4mm nails. Totally agree for ‘amateur’ / diy / infrequent use budget pliers are probably sufficient, however if you’re an electrician using them day in day out got for the best / most durable you can afford.
@@jojojo9240
Maybe company pays
@rigamortice I am sure this will help make Britain great again.
@@jojojo9240 If you are someone who works for a living with these tools everyday, it´s ok to spend more in quality. But if you are an office employee who just want a plier to hold a nut or cut some wire at home, the cheaper one will be enough. Just that.
Watching the destruction of the 1970's pliers was like watching the end of the movie "Ole Yeller" with the tears rolling done my cheeks 😭
Great test! Thank you for your video stressing all of them! Just a complement, Milwaukee is a rebrand of NWS, a German company and made in Germany.
The lever arms were different for each test. So it wasn't scientifically accurate. Nevertheless, German quality tools are in a class of their own.
Exactly no comparable tests
If he had used expensive Polish tools and cheap German tools, the result would have been completely different. The German tool should work six times better to be profitable, but it's not.
中国没有同样价格的
AKCHOOWALLY
Agreed, fundamental to load required for failure.
Definitely more exciting than the last tv thriller 👍
Interesting video. As an Australian, I would have to say that, while most of the brands tested are available here, they are not the most common. I suspect that the Chinese offerings are sold here by major hardware and automotive accessories chains under their own brand names. The best known Australian brand is Sidchrome, I have two of their 160mm combination pliers. One from the 1970s with handles dipped in PVC as insulation, one from the 1980s with fancy moulded grips and chrome plating. The earlier model is much thicker and made of harder steel. Unfortunately, many Sidchrome tools are now made in China. I would love to see a comparison with an Australian made Sidchrome, Swedish Bahco and a quality Japanese brand such as Hozan. I would expect the Bahco to be at least as good as Knipex. Unfortunately, I don't have a massive hydraulic press in my garage, so I'll have to be content with speculation.
I have a pair of heavy duty Klein side cutters from the 90's and as much hell as I've put them through cutting random things that needed to be cut, they've outshined any cutters i have. Still sharp, still in perfect condition. They're about $40 at Home Depot for a pair of the same side cutters.
You can’t test this way, ITS WRONG
the distance from the nail to the shaft should be the same on all models and also the distance from the press to the shaft should be the same
basic physics
Did you notice the only pliers with wire cutters were the 1970's version. And BTW, the wire cutter is on the outer edge where the handle rotales.
Just by looking at them from the begining I would only buy and use the german and US ones. They look like they can get the job done right the first time and last for 30 years.
As an electrician i cringed when the first subject to be cut was a freaking nail for 2 reasons:
-wire cutters are made to cut COPPER WIRES. Yeah some can cut nails too, but you'll notice a reduction in effective wire cutting quite quickly if you do decide to use it for things it wasn't intended to do.
-there are so many better tools to deal with nails in whatever situation.
It is like using a regular pair of scissors to cut down a tree. You shouldn't and you might get through a tree eventually, but both you and the scissors are worse off.
I bet youre real fun at parties.
@@mcal9320 its not a party here...
As an asshole in concrete, they do a lot more than tie up junction boxes. They'll cut steel wire, steel mesh, tie wire, remove nails, and a many more fun and games.
im more concerned with the direct view of sharp nail side that could 100% penetrate your eye/cam or other parts.
Why does that matter? This is already a pointless video because no one is gonna accidentally break their pliers by applying 200 kg force on the handles.
The cutting test would make sense if you placed the nail as far back at possible. Every mm off on the side cutter can make tens of kg's of difference
Me: I'm lost once again on youtube, why do I watch this ?
My brain : Yes
I love how germany won place 1 and 2, because the USA one said "Solingen" on it and this is a town in germany that is famous for their blades. So I guess it was in some way manufactured in germany too.
Milwaukee ... stamped "Solingen". The tool maker town of Germany.
Btw. some damage on the cutting edge are resulting of the plier tongues snapping close against each other after cutting the nail. You don't want the snapping counter force down your wrist. 4 mm steel is needing a dedicated heavy wire cutter. The costs of injuring your hand/wrist is higher than buying the proper tool.
I will use the 3$ one. Cheap and functional. I don't care about the cutter sharpness.
clearly you don't need it often
Would i be cutting thick nails with a pair of pliers? No of course not! ok for cutting thin nails or wire
I still use my 1970 pair! My go to
The one from the US is actually from Germany, it can be worth mentioning considering its quality.
It stamped “solingen” in the metal.
Not sure if this was an accurate test because 1) the nail didn’t look like it was put in the same place in each pliers and 2) the distance between the center of the jaw pin to the center of the press shaft looked different for each pliers. The distance between the end of a lever and where the fulcrum is can make a huge difference in the amount of force required to move the lever.
Verissimo
Just another test that is inaccurate, well to a degree. As for sake the best tool was the 1970 model. You are right but the quality of the alloy and thicknesses (amount) of metal used plays a role as well.
Moral of the story-
China products are cheap and uses low quality material with no guarantee.
Boycott China!! 💀🙏
-Voice from Taiwan
Ofcourse it's not accurate I'm sure a 2 dollar china to a 45 dollar "USA" isn't the same.
It should at least be the same price if not country.
It's not accurate at all to compare them.
Best American-Made lineman's pliers are Klein J-2000, but they weren't tested.
And I think those Milwaukees are made in Germany, at least that's what the stock number shows
Solingen is a Town in Germany! It is better known for Knifes! "Die Messerstadt Solingen"
Soligen -The city of Blades
Klein is founded by a German immigrant, so the design is based on German-made models
I was most impressed by the tight grain structure of the 1970's pliers.
They seemed to have the best grain structure of all. I was very impressed as well.
They were marked CRV on the handle, that's Chrome Vanadium steel, a very strong steel alloy.
@@mirandahotspring4019 True. But most of these pliers are tho.
Placing the nail closer o further from the pivot point makes a lot of difference. The closer, the less strength you will need.
Incrível como os grãos do aço, bem ali na ruptura, do alicate da década de 70, são quase imperceptíveis. Isso demonstra a qualidade no tratamento que foi dado bem como indica que as discordâncias na estrutura cristalina foram minimizadas: "se as discordâncias não se moverem, a deformação plástica não ocorre!"
Eu n estava botando muita fé nele
Antes o aço era mais puro ferramentas antigas neste quesito são melhores
Cara realmente não esperava alguém com conhecimento de resistência dos materiais, eu tava pensando na falha e no limite de escoamento.kkkkkkkk
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Creo más bien que no observaste bien el área transversal de la parte que se vence y rompe. El grosor en esa parte que se corta es muy muy pequeño en comparación a las otras pinzas, sí se llega a notar el grano pero hay que poner mucha atención. Velo en cámara lenta. Es aún más sorprendente ver que una pequeña área transversal soporta lo mismo que otras con mayor área transversal.
i used to have these Finnish made pliers somewhere from the early 1900s
and I swear i could cut 6 mm nails no problem
hand forged by a skillful blacksmith in the ages of peak tool making
Interesting: The Wilwaukee one shows the name of my hometown ‚Solingen‘, which is a town in Germany and famous for its knifes and cuttleries, e.g. Zwilling, Güde, Dreizack etc.
Why am i watching this video? So mesmerising...
I’m not gonna lie, seeing that vintage pair of pliers being mutilated like that, brought a tear to my eye!
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⛑
🛠
As an old tool collector, I thought the same thing.
the thing about tools is this: How many times have you been in a jam or had a major problem, and something as mundane as a hand tool, rescued you? I love 'em and collect them whenever i can.
>>>DITTO
I have those side cutter pliers in my tool box. They are SOLID!!
Use them all the time and now realize I'll have a hard time replacing them if I ever need to
Next time, it would be interesting to do a test of products made in different countries with similar cost
Exactly. 50 dollar chinese made pliers are way better than the one shown in the video
@@paniniman6524 Yes of course its better then, it would be sad if not XD The point is, If ALL would have cost 50 dollar.
@Shiang Yu Yang Huawei is worth every dollor, XiaoMi electronics, DaJiang Drones, BYD Electric Buses 70% of global market share, times have changed and is continuing to change, you get the point.
@Shiang Yu Yangi think his point was that everything is made in china, we all agree the brands arent chinese
@Shiang Yu Yang 😂clown knows nothing about China
Love how the 50 year old steady eddy stood toe to toe with the modern versions.
Made in czechoslovakia :)
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I’m 72 and the last compression test I did I scored 35 kilos..so I’ll be good with my 40 year old Klein until I can’t squeeze no more. I always love watching tests like this.
All about moments of force, the comparison should have been made with hydraulics resting on the levers of all pliers with same distance from the fulcrum. Same goes with the nail used as load. I think the data is not that accurate as it looks.. but intersting video nonetheless ☺️👍
Yeah, not at all accurate! And the Milwaukee being servicable afterwards? Maybe as a garden tongs, certainly not as pliers.
Moral of the story-
China products are cheap and uses low quality material with no guarantee.
Boycott China!! 💀🙏
-Voice from Taiwan
Everyone ain’t smart like Filipino peep👍🙏
Köszönöm
Nhìn thấy bạn thử nghiệm rất hay cảm ơn bạn đã cho xem clip này
Thank you to China, the country that makes beautiful products for us at a very cheap price❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Nice discussion here, sometimes in addition about the impact of the position of the press intender on the handle. But if you compare the results of the destroiying test, the question is. What value do we get with a load difference between 282 to 453 kg, a load which nobody can intend with the hand on the grippers. Even by extending the grippers with two tubes of apr. 20 - 25 cm it is not possible to get such load into the pliers.
The only reasonable test is the cutting test, but as mentioned, with such a big nail and a load of minimum 120 kg, this is also not realistic because no one can bring up this force with the hand. Such plier cutters are limted to smaler steel wire maybe up to 2 mm and copper wire.
Important for the quality is the cutter sharpness and even more the durability by a correct heat treatment.
There are a couple of people in the world that can generate 120 kg++ of pinching force with 1 hand. I bet if they extend the grippers that they can get something similar to those numbers.
You are right, but uhhh... This is iust some experiment pal, does not have write that essay
@@Timo-Epis ur m0mm can do it with me. Hahaha
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만약 그렇지 않은경우 추가적인 도구를 이용해 손의 악력 이상을 가할 상황이 존재합니다.
또한 여유있는 하중범위는 반복작업과 오랜 사용에 대한 신뢰성을 확보할수 있습니다
Stfu 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲 USA for the win!!!
On the Milwaukee USA (?) pliers you can read, Solingen. That is a city in Germany. In that city there is a factory that produces the Knipex plier blades. You can connect the dots yourself....
I have a Knipex for almost 25 years and it still cuts fine.
That unbranded pliers from an early 70's were made in West Germany.
Pliers that didn't have the name of the brand on them were made of a less quality steel believe it or not.
That is what a cheap pliers would be back then in DDR. Yet they are almost as good as a brand new Knipex and Milwaukee.
I see them a lot on a flea markets here in EU.
In my daily life as a motor bike mechanic, I have broken over 4 pliers so far and still counting .
I just had to put this here to feel better about my accomplishments
You can tell from the break point which metal grain indicates the highest quality. In 1970, quality was even more important than quantity.
@TH-cam Commenter Good point. Poor quality has always been around. Though I´m not sure overall. There were no home depot shops with chinese trash offers back in the 70ies. It was more normal to repair something and not just dump and rebuy things. Maybe mantality was more quality friendly. And people asked a pro to do the job.
If you use the same price to buy the same tools, China is still the most cost-effective!
@@user-ge8dn8sc4n Yes, I personally find tools made in the Republic of China (Taiwan) to be of very high quality. However, in my branch of precision engineering, tools made in Switzerland are the actual standard... high-quality products require the best tools and materials without compromise...
Thank you.
What a shame
the strength of my hands are limited.
Are the milwaukee pliers made in Solingen ?
Is that Solingen the knifemaker city in germany or US ?
Solingen and google ... a lot (nearly all) german premium tool brands are produced in the area Solingen and Remscheid.
No matter which country is the tool produced in, one thing is always true: high price=high quality. Vice versa. Countries like China also have excellent tools, it just depends on whether you are willing to pay more.
It's very true. I don't like China but the test must be equal.
@@tundratiger9473 Please dont mistake chinese and china for ccp. Chinese people would be 1st to celebrate if we are rid of ccp
@@tundratiger9473 I don't see China invade other countries!
@@gyurmethlodroe1774 fake ,. Chinese support ccp over 90% , report by BBC. And why say that under tools test channel
@@fungnote3312 BBC...Backed By China.
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I would have liked to see more consistency in the placement of the nail. Just 1 mm forwards or backwards will have a huge impact on the force needed to cut the nail
N*m 라 거리가 길이가 조금만 바뀌어도 토크값이 증가할테니 모든 공구의 거리를 같게 해서 측정해야지 이런 방식으로는 납득할 수 없습니다.
That would be more useful
Was thinking exactly the same.
Nice to see at minute 1:15 that even the American pliers are using steel from Solingen, Germany.
I was on the edge of my seat the whole time.
Interesting test. But in my opinion if all the pliers are at different price points, it would be mildly inappropriate to specify which countries they were from. And the fact that you didn't put the nail in the same position for each test just renders the outcome of the tests flat out worthless. Milwaukee one is from Germany as well btw.
Boom line is that anything made in China is worthless
Milwaukee parent company is TTI, a Chinese company based in Hong Kong... responsible of the design
huh
@@guillemot380 I am pretty sure the engraved "Solingen" is everything one needs to know
@@guillemot380 they're maneufactured in germany tho
He never fails to intertain us with his crazy content!
fr the 70s model, use the slot over the plier. It's made for nails or steel wire. I'm sorry to see this option is no more available on modern pliers.
There is a comment that went somewhat unnoticed, in which a Polish said that "Yato" manufactures all the tools in China, and that the best from Poland is "Coval" or "Kuźnia". In good faith I believe in his words; because in the test there is a little cheating by presenting an American pliers that is actually German. Greetings from Chile.
Excellent Work :-)) The Milwaukee are made by NWS of Germany, just like some of their screwdrivers are made by Witte of Germany, Good quality and on par with Whia, Wera, Felo and Gedore/Stahlwille :-))
exactly
I spent many years welding pipe and you cut alot of tig wire doing that. 316L 5/32" stainless tig wire will let you know if your side cutters are any good. The best pair I ever had as far as cutting with less hand applied pressure were a pair of Heavy Duty Craftsman. They lasted about 6 years until one of the jaws broke off and by then Craftsman no longer made them the same. What they called their new heavy duty side cutters were trash and I went back to my old Klein J-2000s, which is what the majority of tig welders use.
Funny how that Milwaukee came out of Solingen, a town in Germany which is famous for high quality tools.
Since the head of the Milwaukee reads "Solingen" they are made in Germany too, like the Knipex
The price to performance of the Chinese one was so ridiculous that everyone else seems like they were so overpriced.
Only reason why you don't see everyone in the comments going "cHiNa pRoDuCt cHeAp n wOrThlEss"
Couldn't confirm their bias on this one hahahahhahaahahhaa
Also why they are all arguing accuracy of the test now. Totally predictable. So petty. Hahaha.
Well we live in a world where people should really stop using throw away products that dont last long. Also the price could also be cheap not just because of low quality material but also what the people who make them get.
A.K.A western junk. Premium pricetag for thin air. 😎
@@smarty265 the dollar goes further in many other countries. you can get better standard of living on a lower budget in China than the US. with the amount of automation throughout the supply chain the human cost is less and less relevant, it's just that China has built massive factory cities with massive economy of scale, many are not easily replicated in other nations which is why so many factories are still in China even with China being antagonized and higher labor cost than the other SE Asian nations. the US used to have factory cities back in the day when they were producing for the world, but they are now a part of the rust belt. not easy to mobilize a work force of hundreds of thousands, build an entire city ecosystem revolved around manufacturing, the bureaucracy alone is difficult for many nations. China has structured itself to reduce red tape for massive mega projects and adapted to it for decades now. way too simple to just say China products suck and cheap because cheap labor, trade would have never established there if better competitors exist. cheaper labor has not been an advantage of China for a long time now
I would love to see some pry bars, including the Milwaukee pry bars because they claim the I beam design won't bend, so when they do reach that failure point are they going to snap(which seems like the worst thing a pry bar could do when failing)
I would say that the greater part of the population that uses these tools to make a living using them know the advantages/disadvantages of each brand! I use this video as strictly entertainment as it was enough to watch the entire video!
I guess you can find in the market more resistant and stronger pliers than these ones, but even so I was impressed with the Milwaukee model.
the "american" product called "Milwaukee" does not come from the USA. It also comes from Germany, from Solingen to be precise, and has the ISO standard 5746, which was also developed in Germany.
Спасибо ! Теперь я знаю, что NWSами больше 400 кг руками лучше не выжимать.)))
Смотря в каком месте
Watching this at 1 am feels great
My old Dad’s ‘1970s’ pliers (more like 1945) look exactly like those…I still have them!
I think even the cheaper ones would still suffice given average grip strength
Please, no more side cutter tests with steel nails! Those cutters are intended to be used on copper wires or small steel wires but not on nails!
I mean I don't think anybody has the strength of a hydraulic press anyway.
Why it's just an test right?
Why not? We will definitely figure out which cutters have the toughest Jaws
Nobody wants to see something they know it can cut lol that's partially the point
The "test" ist nonsense. But everyone who is watching these videos wants to see stuff crushing 😄
Milwaukee… marked with „Solingen“ so it‘s made in Germany.
Only the brand is made in USA but double the price. 👌🏼
thank god for this test, I guess I will not buy those with less than 350kg as their "snapping" limit, since I defently can grip harder than that !
I see a problem with a nail posotion - regarding the arm of the force applied over the lever.
this should be an unified parameter over the testing cases.