It's a shame so many interesting ships were shafted after the war, we lost both our most decorated carrier, enterprise to the scrap yards, and our oldest/largest carrier of the time, Saratoga, to baker test, it's a real shame that we could save so many of the Essex class but put the rest to the torch
@@Thunderous117 it all comes down to mindset at the time, we wanted nothing to do with the war at the time, Sara was very old and was not even in active service by the end of the war. Enterprise was also old and horribly outclassed. Plus you had all 24 Essex class out there plus the up and coming Midways
This may be the most interesting of these videos I've seen so far. I knew nothing about this class of ships, and I love the 6 twin turret layout. This is just another in the long list of ships that "shoulda been" saved and turned into museum ships.
.... Yeah, the nuclear tests were not all that effective against the targets used in the tests. Except for the ones at effectively point blank range during the underwater test where the blast pressure going through the water caused them to be tossed about like toy bathtub boats, the Arkansas being one of those unfortunate few.
On the other hand. Most of the ships were so irradiated that they would have been useless. I think that was part of what they were testing. Could you turn back a fleet or squadron with one well aimed nuke? The answer is yes.
@@kyle857 - More than that, the ships would have survived while literally everyone inside was killed by some combination of not just radiation but, being cooked alive, dying due to blast pressures, being vaporized, etc...
This is actually incorrect. While the ships where not physically damaged by the airbursts much, livestock left in the turrets (The thickest steel) died from the radiation exposure. So while the ships would be intact the crews would have died from radiation sickness well before they could get to port. Talk about a true ghost fleet.
Wyoming trained many AA officers and enlisted personnel in defense of the US fleet. She also bombarded Tangier Island in the Chesapeake. No island was harmed in that production.
@@loveaugustsson4820 She had 12x12" guns, as built. By the time the 5" turrets had been installed in 1944 she had been reclassified as an auxiliary training ship, AG-17 and was no longer a battleship.
My dad was a Chief Gunners Mate on the Wyoming from 1939-1945. He trained personnel for battle in the Pacific fleet. The Wyoming was assigned to the Atlantic fleet.
It would be interesting to see a video on the USS Compton DD705, which, I believe, was a Sumner Class destroyer of the U.S. Navy. My younger brother served on the Compton in the late 1960's.
I don’t know why, but I really like the way the American pre-North Carolina battleships look. (I also love the way the post North Carolina battleships look, just in a different way). I ESPECIALLY love the Tillman maximum concept, and really wish we had built at least one.
Another amazing video well done. Another one of those battleships you don’t hear a lot about covered very concisely. Two other ships you don’t hear off and that I would love to see a video on where IJN Hosho the worlds first purpose built carrier, also the light Carrier Hermes Britain’s first purpose build carrier.
I had a teacher in world history, 10th grade who said that Teddy Roosevelt sent the fleet around the world but with only enough money to get halfway. Congress had to approve a huge appropriation to bring the fleet back home and also build more modern ships which was Teddy's idea all along.
Great video series!!! Recently discovered this site and am hooked. If not already done, please consider videos about: USS Utah & USS Oklahoma - 2 of the forgotten casualties of Pearl Harbor.
an interesting ship class to do if you haven't done so yet would be the Insect class gunboats of the Royal Navy say HMS Cockchafer. she had quite a career spanning both world wars.
Please do Italian armoire cruiser classes Pisa and/or San Giorgo classes. Those ships really interest me since their secondary battery is just 0.5 inches short of most cruiser armaments in WW2 and they are pretty heavy cruisers for their time (conceived in 1904).
I would love to see a review of the Colorado Class USS Maryland, BB46. She was the 2nd ship of the class planned but was the first laid down in 1917, and the first in service in 1921. She was the very first battleship with 16 inch main guns, with two superfiring twin turrets fore and aft. She participated in the last battleship "Crossing the "T"" engagement against the Japanese at Surigao Straight, Philipine Islands; earned 7 battle stars during WWII, was bombed during the Pearl Harbor attack next to the capsized USS Oklahoma, and survived Kamikaze direct hits, bombs and an airial torpedo throughout the war. My dad served aboard her from 1942-'45 as a Radarman 3rd Class. He had many stories including the torpedo hit to her starboard bow; he said the hole was large enough to "drive" a freight train through her. Another story, was about a comedic sailor who told him that he wouldn't clean spilled food stating on KP duty, "It's the "Officers Mess," let them clean it up." Please review "Fighting Mary." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maryland_(BB-46) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maryland_(BB-46)#/media/File:USSMarylandKamikaze.jpg en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maryland_(BB-46)#/media/File:USS_Maryland_BB-46.jpg
Interesting! My children’s Great Grandfather was in Carlsons 2nd Raiders from inception to Iwo Jima. The only transport I remember him mentioning in his autobiography was the Nautilus for the Makin Raid. Thanks for mentioning this. Gives me something to research in the next few months!
Hi, really enjoy the channel, great work. Wondering if you have ever done a segment on the USS Wolverine and USS Sable? Both were great lake paddle wheelers that were converted during WW 2 to training carriers. Cheers Rob
I have been searching for a long time now for a photo or drawing of what the remains of the Arkansas looks like at the bottom of Bikini Lagoon, so many many thanks to you, Mr. Drachinifel! The craziest part of the Test Baker (did they realize they made a pun??) photo is the big black smudge to the right of the column is the USS Arkansas doing an en-pointe de le morte. Somebody let me know if I have the French phrase correct because Ich weisse nicht.
The thing is when you put a big block of steel on water and push it with a blast wave most of the wave just goes around and what hits the ship mostly pushes it. This is why even corvettes can be cheaply nuclear shock resistant
I've always had a few big questions about the main armament. Why not 2 4-barrel turrets instead of 4 2-barrel? One advantage is to get the weight lower--those supra-firing turrets must be heavy and they're so much higher. Can't be good for balance. Next: why even supra-fire? How often are the guns at so low an elevation you couldn't just have the turrets one after the other at the same height? As long as they have at least say 15 degrees elevation, all could fire forward. Finally: at enough of an angle, foreward guns should be able to fire straight back, as long as they miss the superstructure. Could these turrets actually turn those angles, though? My vision of how these ships should work would be more like a low flat deck with all turrets equal height and in a row. Then the superstructure in the back. That way you could charge and still bring all guns to bear. When running away, 1-3 turrets at least might be far enough forward to fire back over the superstructure. Only minus is when charging directly at VERY close range, only one turret could shoot straight forward at flat trajectory.
I know this is old, but I thought I'd answer. 1. Quads (four barrels in one turret) were more mechanically complex and require a much larger barbette, which in turn makes the design of the ship more complicated. Barely anyone was using triple turrets when these ships were built. 2. Superfiring is partly to save weight by saving length, not just to allow more firepower directly forward and aft. The reason for this is that the barrels of the guns of the upper turret can overhang above the top of the lower turret. If they're at the same level, obviously you can't have this overlap. This means that the armor belt needs to be longer, as does the armored deck, which increases weight (and overall length, and therefore cost). 3. The highest elevation of any main battleship guns I know of is about 45 degrees, which is not enough to fire over the superstructure. Maximum firing angle for these older dreadnoughts was much less. Also turrets can't freely rotate 360 degrees because of all the cabling and such linking them to the rest of the ship.
@@Drachinifel Saluting guns at sea and on land save wear ant tear on actual operational weapons, the ammunition is much cheaper and and the amount of cleaning afterwards is greatly reduced. Also not all ships these days have suitable guns that are suitable for the pomp and circumstance of military ceremony. Some modern ships of war have been reduced to have ceremonial guards firing rifle volleys instead of gun salutes.
Saluting guns also can form part of a warning...If you fire it at ship that is on a steady bearing at say 2nm and it stands on...its a threat and you neutralise it.
Hello. I have two subjects I would like to see if you have time. First, German raiders of WW2, and second, APAs and other landing ships (I know they are not battleships, but they were important for the conduct of war in the Pacific).
Along with the scuttling of the High Seas Fleet at Scapa Flow, Operation Crossroads is one of the greatest single causes of “wailing and gnashing of teeth” for the naval historian in me. Or, to quote a great man entirely out of context: “You MANIACS! You BLEW IT UP! *GOD DAMN YOU!!!”*
The tragedy as always is that NOBODY ever thought to save some of these trusted servants as museum ships if for no other reason than to be examples of the magnificent engineering that went into them.
Thanks for this. I was not a big fan of these ships. With all those turrets with only 12" guns - it looked a little silly to me. And building 12" guns when your number one competitor (realistically) was building battleships with 13.5" guns seems a tad wasteful. Though compared to any British pre-super dreadnought - they stack up well. Personally, I like the Tegetthoff's. They lacked underwater protection. But they looked cool and seemed a good bang for the buck.
Wonder how much 12” ammo was left by ww2 for the Arkansas to shoot? How did the supply ships know to carry 12-14-16” shells? Can you do a video on the ammo logistics of different caliber battle ships ? Shout out to the Arkansas for being Americas only 12” battle ship during ww2 !
Shiney horst had the Speed, Armor and technological edge over Arkansas. So I'm gonna say Sharnhorst would have won that engagement. Assuming the German captain would want to make a fight of it. In actually the German wouldn't have risked engaging her because of the fear of being mission killed by a lucky shot. Especially since the Sharnhorst was easly capable of out running Arkansas.
Am I the only one whom pronounced this ship's name - when I first saw her in a book - "Ark'n'Sarse"?. (alternatively: "Ark'n'Sass") Rather like Leicester or almost anywhere in Wales, it is perhaps not the most obvious word to pronounce, when one's hitherto never heard of it.
Amazing that the US only permanently lost two WWI era battleships. The remaining 14 were better armed (added AA) and with better fire control than they started the war with.
@@Drachinifel I would think they were also rather useless against moving targets as they would have had very little range on the traversal before they would overbalance the carriage.
From what I've read able test was a huge embarrassment and Baker was kind of put together on the fly to show oh yes atomic weapons can sink ships But there's still the fact that a world war I battleship survived a 23 kiloton atomic bomb a thousand yards away.
America got Battleships right, right from the start, and just kept on going all the way till the absolutely murderous Iowas, and then the Iowa’s again In the ‘80s! Oh and BTW... • Shoot all the Exocets you want French while Iowa takes a nap. • Even the Russians with their gigantic [almost double!] super-sonic P-1000 (improved P-500 Basalt NATO designation Sandbox) and later the far improved P-700 Granit (NATO designation SS-N-19 Shipwreck) would have a hard time bringing the sea worthy of an Iowa into doubt. But the 32 Tomahawks, and 32 Harpoons (with PLENTY, PLENTY!!! Of space for more of everything, I would recommend splitting the Tomahawks 32 Anti-ship, 32 Land-attack, 32 Harpoons (dual mode, both land/ship-attack). • AND!!! Those 16”/50s need a specially designed 12” sabot round that will easily comer over a miles. GPS GUIDED. With a rocket booster. Oh boy!
Sorry, she had been derated from a Battleship to a Target Ship...(1931 to 07DEC1941, but at least she did distract severalIJN aircraft from attacking other, more vital ships and other vital targets with all they hit her with to sink her...
![[LIVE] : ONE ลุมพินี 87 วันนี้!! คู่เอก "ก้องชัย vs โชคปรีชา"](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YN6e7HVnekw/mqdefault.jpg)
"unsurprisingly, this sunk the ship" ... no, you removed the ocean, then dumped it back on top. That's not sinking it, that's burying it.
Bunked. The only battleship in history to be bunked.
Agreed
"You can't park there" *steals the water and puts it on top*
That's exactly how I had interpreted the event. 😆
Yup buried, not sunk!! :)
My neighbor served on this ship during WW2. Guy is still as sharp as a tack and full of amazing tales.
These guides are addictive.
Agree...
In WWI my great grand father served on the Arkansas and took a lot of pictures, one of which was a close up of Jupiter's stern.
Damn thats really cool, would you mind sharing these photo's?
We've been meaning to and someone may have but if so I'm not aware of it. I'll try
Jupiter? As in the collier that would become USS Langley?
Considering the Cyclops went missing a couple months before the picture was taken, yes.
The PNolandS noice
You have an excellent narrator's voice, which makes these great.
Indeed. Almost like Steven Wilson who has just a great voice to listen to. And the accent is the cream topping
Excellent work my friend, Arkansas was a big girl for her day served in many engagements as the Texas shame they didnt preserve Her like the Texas
It's a shame so many interesting ships were shafted after the war, we lost both our most decorated carrier, enterprise to the scrap yards, and our oldest/largest carrier of the time, Saratoga, to baker test, it's a real shame that we could save so many of the Essex class but put the rest to the torch
@@Thunderous117 it all comes down to mindset at the time, we wanted nothing to do with the war at the time, Sara was very old and was not even in active service by the end of the war. Enterprise was also old and horribly outclassed. Plus you had all 24 Essex class out there plus the up and coming Midways
Ironically, _Arkansas_ getting nuked meant that she's more intact nowadays than the vast majority of WWI-era U.S. battleships.
Absolutely! Enterprise and Saratoga did SO muck!
This may be the most interesting of these videos I've seen so far. I knew nothing about this class of ships, and I love the 6 twin turret layout. This is just another in the long list of ships that "shoulda been" saved and turned into museum ships.
Only one less turret than HMS Agincourt!
.... Yeah, the nuclear tests were not all that effective against the targets used in the tests. Except for the ones at effectively point blank range during the underwater test where the blast pressure going through the water caused them to be tossed about like toy bathtub boats, the Arkansas being one of those unfortunate few.
The Arkansas was flipped end over end...which is pretty incredible for something that sized.
Poor Arkansas...
On the other hand. Most of the ships were so irradiated that they would have been useless. I think that was part of what they were testing. Could you turn back a fleet or squadron with one well aimed nuke?
The answer is yes.
@@kyle857 - More than that, the ships would have survived while literally everyone inside was killed by some combination of not just radiation but, being cooked alive, dying due to blast pressures, being vaporized, etc...
This is actually incorrect. While the ships where not physically damaged by the airbursts much, livestock left in the turrets (The thickest steel) died from the radiation exposure. So while the ships would be intact the crews would have died from radiation sickness well before they could get to port. Talk about a true ghost fleet.
Not so much "sunk" as "dropped unceremoniously on the ocean floor", honestly.
I guess some of the water was temporarily removed...(?)
@@MultiZirkon By the nearby nuclear explosion, yes.
She was beached
@@michaellegrand1450 I feel like "beach" is a bit of an exaggeration, given the timeline.
The whole her being thrown is a myth bruv
uss wyoming, america's first 5" battleship.
An anti-aircraft battleship?
@@Ralph-yn3gr The first battleship to be equipped with 5 inch guns as it's primary armarment
Wyoming trained many AA officers and enlisted personnel in defense of the US fleet. She also bombarded Tangier Island in the Chesapeake. No island was harmed in that production.
@@loveaugustsson4820 She had 12x12" guns, as built. By the time the 5" turrets had been installed in 1944 she had been reclassified as an auxiliary training ship, AG-17 and was no longer a battleship.
My dad was a Chief Gunners Mate on the Wyoming from 1939-1945.
He trained personnel for battle in the Pacific fleet.
The Wyoming was assigned to the Atlantic fleet.
It would be interesting to see a video on the USS Compton DD705, which, I believe, was a Sumner Class destroyer of the U.S. Navy. My younger brother served on the Compton in the late 1960's.
I don’t know why, but I really like the way the American pre-North Carolina battleships look. (I also love the way the post North Carolina battleships look, just in a different way).
I ESPECIALLY love the Tillman maximum concept, and really wish we had built at least one.
The production of your videos is getting much better
6:26 she took the Dylan Thomas poem "Do not go gentle into that good night" a bit literally.
Independence day movie 🍿 speach
@@johndoe-qg7jp if I remember right is was also used in interstellar
Another amazing video well done. Another one of those battleships you don’t hear a lot about covered very concisely. Two other ships you don’t hear off and that I would love to see a video on where IJN Hosho the worlds first purpose built carrier, also the light Carrier Hermes Britain’s first purpose build carrier.
you mentioned "The Great White Fleet" tour so i looked it up - might make for an interesting future episode as to what the USN learned from it
I had a teacher in world history, 10th grade who said that Teddy Roosevelt sent the fleet around the world but with only enough money to get halfway. Congress had to approve a huge appropriation to bring the fleet back home and also build more modern ships which was Teddy's idea all along.
Re the ship's final use: Now what a ride THAT would've been!
5 videos just today? You've spoiled christmas this year, nothing can top this!
Great video series!!! Recently discovered this site and am hooked. If not already done, please consider videos about: USS Utah & USS Oklahoma - 2 of the forgotten casualties of Pearl Harbor.
Having watched the first part of the computer -voiced Wyoming review, your natural voice is indeed much more pleasant. :)
Its like someone copy-pasted the stern and forgot to remove it.
How about a video of the USS Houston. Possibly a double feature with HMAS Perth.
Thank you for doing my old State. First saw a model of her up in Casper Wyoming.
My Grandfather served on the Wyoming from 1919-1924. GM3, forward turret
an interesting ship class to do if you haven't done so yet would be the Insect class gunboats of the Royal Navy say HMS Cockchafer. she had quite a career spanning both world wars.
Thank you so much for this. My great grandfather Seaman First Class Carl Snowden served on the Wyoming
human voice is much better...
Yeah, drach has a easy to understand voice and accent.
Please do Italian armoire cruiser classes Pisa and/or San Giorgo classes. Those ships really interest me since their secondary battery is just 0.5 inches short of most cruiser armaments in WW2 and they are pretty heavy cruisers for their time (conceived in 1904).
I would love to see a review of the Colorado Class USS Maryland, BB46. She was the 2nd ship of the class planned but was the first laid down in 1917, and the first in service in 1921. She was the very first battleship with 16 inch main guns, with two superfiring twin turrets fore and aft. She participated in the last battleship "Crossing the "T"" engagement against the Japanese at Surigao Straight, Philipine Islands; earned 7 battle stars during WWII, was bombed during the Pearl Harbor attack next to the capsized USS Oklahoma, and survived Kamikaze direct hits, bombs and an airial torpedo throughout the war. My dad served aboard her from 1942-'45 as a Radarman 3rd Class. He had many stories including the torpedo hit to her starboard bow; he said the hole was large enough to "drive" a freight train through her. Another story, was about a comedic sailor who told him that he wouldn't clean spilled food stating on KP duty, "It's the "Officers Mess," let them clean it up." Please review "Fighting Mary." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maryland_(BB-46) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maryland_(BB-46)#/media/File:USSMarylandKamikaze.jpg en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Maryland_(BB-46)#/media/File:USS_Maryland_BB-46.jpg
Did Christmas come early!? What a great way to unwind after finals week!
How about a discussion and place of the APD fast transports used by US Marine raiders in the Pacific theatre?
Interesting! My children’s Great Grandfather was in Carlsons 2nd Raiders from inception to Iwo Jima. The only transport I remember him mentioning in his autobiography was the Nautilus for the Makin Raid. Thanks for mentioning this. Gives me something to research in the next few months!
.. somewhat unsurprisingly, this did sink the ship... Gotta LOVE Drach's dry British humor...
Hi, really enjoy the channel, great work. Wondering if you have ever done a segment on the USS Wolverine and USS Sable? Both were great lake paddle wheelers that were converted during WW 2 to training carriers. Cheers Rob
I have been searching for a long time now for a photo or drawing of what the remains of the Arkansas looks like at the bottom of Bikini Lagoon, so many many thanks to you, Mr. Drachinifel!
The craziest part of the Test Baker (did they realize they made a pun??) photo is the big black smudge to the right of the column is the USS Arkansas doing an en-pointe de le morte.
Somebody let me know if I have the French phrase correct because Ich weisse nicht.
What do I value most in a battleship??
The ability to totally wreck the opposition....
Rodney, Duke of York and Warspite come to mind :)
Would like to see USS Brooklyn ACR-3 reviewed.
Operation Crossroads makes me cry...
Same.
End nuclear weapons test!
Im new to your channel thanks and respect for all your hard work ....Lot of videos for me to enjoy
I truly wish one of these made it to a museum ship.
Great video, thanks for sharing.
The thing is when you put a big block of steel on water and push it with a blast wave most of the wave just goes around and what hits the ship mostly pushes it. This is why even corvettes can be cheaply nuclear shock resistant
The radiation will still kill you.
the wyoming twin 5 inch turrets they were look more cruiser look in 1944
I think she looks pretty nice with all those 5” mounts.
Still more heavily armed than anything else on the Chesapeake!! Fishing boats beware!!!😁
Ise and Arkansas both have 6 turret and same turret positions
well Ise stern section was converted as carrier to launch her planes
That gives me an idea for an 'alternate history' USN BB with the rear converted to launch Curtiss SC Seahawks and XSB2C-2 Helldiver seaplanes!
I love how they have a robot voice at the end lol it fits with its accent
As a native South Carolinan I wish we had preserved her as a museum ship in Charleston harbor.
can you do a guide on the USS Laffey DD-724
I've always had a few big questions about the main armament. Why not 2 4-barrel turrets instead of 4 2-barrel? One advantage is to get the weight lower--those supra-firing turrets must be heavy and they're so much higher. Can't be good for balance. Next: why even supra-fire? How often are the guns at so low an elevation you couldn't just have the turrets one after the other at the same height? As long as they have at least say 15 degrees elevation, all could fire forward. Finally: at enough of an angle, foreward guns should be able to fire straight back, as long as they miss the superstructure. Could these turrets actually turn those angles, though? My vision of how these ships should work would be more like a low flat deck with all turrets equal height and in a row. Then the superstructure in the back. That way you could charge and still bring all guns to bear. When running away, 1-3 turrets at least might be far enough forward to fire back over the superstructure. Only minus is when charging directly at VERY close range, only one turret could shoot straight forward at flat trajectory.
I know this is old, but I thought I'd answer.
1. Quads (four barrels in one turret) were more mechanically complex and require a much larger barbette, which in turn makes the design of the ship more complicated. Barely anyone was using triple turrets when these ships were built.
2. Superfiring is partly to save weight by saving length, not just to allow more firepower directly forward and aft. The reason for this is that the barrels of the guns of the upper turret can overhang above the top of the lower turret. If they're at the same level, obviously you can't have this overlap. This means that the armor belt needs to be longer, as does the armored deck, which increases weight (and overall length, and therefore cost).
3. The highest elevation of any main battleship guns I know of is about 45 degrees, which is not enough to fire over the superstructure. Maximum firing angle for these older dreadnoughts was much less. Also turrets can't freely rotate 360 degrees because of all the cabling and such linking them to the rest of the ship.
so kind of dum question - why do ships needed seperate saluting guns ? why not just use regular guns with saluting ammo ?
Experience showed to much potential for confusion in battle and peace.
@@Drachinifel Saluting guns at sea and on land save wear ant tear on actual operational weapons, the ammunition is much cheaper and and the amount of cleaning afterwards is greatly reduced. Also not all ships these days have suitable guns that are suitable for the pomp and circumstance of military ceremony. Some modern ships of war have been reduced to have ceremonial guards firing rifle volleys instead of gun salutes.
Saluting guns also can form part of a warning...If you fire it at ship that is on a steady bearing at say 2nm and it stands on...its a threat and you neutralise it.
If you can't have big guns, the next best thing is lots of guns.
Argentina: Hold my beer.
Hello. I have two subjects I would like to see if you have time. First, German raiders of WW2, and second, APAs and other landing ships (I know they are not battleships, but they were important for the conduct of war in the Pacific).
I just enjoyed the video and gave you a thumbs up
Could you discuss the uses of saluting guns in your next drydock?
Good video. Thanks
Mr. President, we have a battleship gap! Lol
Good one.
As for 12" gun dreadnoughts, my favourites are the late German battlecruisers.
Another one? nice.
Along with the scuttling of the High Seas Fleet at Scapa Flow, Operation Crossroads is one of the greatest single causes of “wailing and gnashing of teeth” for the naval historian in me.
Or, to quote a great man entirely out of context: “You MANIACS! You BLEW IT UP! *GOD DAMN YOU!!!”*
4:09 Look how they massacred my boy
The tragedy as always is that NOBODY ever thought to save some of these trusted servants as museum ships if for no other reason than to be examples of the magnificent engineering that went into them.
USS Texas would like to know your location.
at my grandfathers funeral the navy said he was the last crewman to pass
As a training/weapons testing ship, USS Wyoming fired more rounds that any other battleship in WWII
Designer: How many 12in guns do you want
Navy: yes
not quite Agincourt levels but close
Please make a video on my father's Battleship, the USS Tennessee.
The U. S. S. Wyoming class - Guide 004 *
there, fixed it.
(:
( as it includes U. S. S. Arkansas )
Noting that the USS Wyoming now appears as a standard vessel in the PS4 version of World Of Warships.
So it had a
A, B, q1 ,q2, X, Y,
gun layout?
Edit : just remembered that q turrets are between the funerals and the secondary Tower.
Thanks for this.
I was not a big fan of these ships. With all those turrets with only 12" guns - it looked a little silly to me. And building 12" guns when your number one competitor (realistically) was building battleships with 13.5" guns seems a tad wasteful. Though compared to any British pre-super dreadnought - they stack up well.
Personally, I like the Tegetthoff's. They lacked underwater protection. But they looked cool and seemed a good bang for the buck.
Well if the wyomings had a 4 triple layout like tegethof instead of the 6 twins it could have been upgunned to twin 14s.
the USN's main competitor was the IJN... who were building ships with 14" guns.
BRING BACK ROBO-VOICE! (Just kidding.)
As Arkansas was doing convoy escort while the Germans still had battleships I think Arkansas vs Scharnhorst would be a good ship v ship question
Wonder how much 12” ammo was left by ww2 for the Arkansas to shoot? How did the supply ships know to carry 12-14-16” shells? Can you do a video on the ammo logistics of different caliber battle ships ?
Shout out to the Arkansas for being Americas only 12” battle ship during ww2 !
Probably quite a bit considering that it didn't get used in WW1. Also they were still making 12" ammunition for the Alaska class.
4:20 Light Battleship, same great taste, but less filling
"this sinks the ship"
Since Arkansas was on convoy duty while Germany had surface raiders one has to ask how a Arkansas vs Scharnhorst would have went
Shiney horst had the Speed, Armor and technological edge over Arkansas. So I'm gonna say Sharnhorst would have won that engagement. Assuming the German captain would want to make a fight of it. In actually the German wouldn't have risked engaging her because of the fear of being mission killed by a lucky shot. Especially since the Sharnhorst was easly capable of out running Arkansas.
And the British were concerned of the recoil of a broadside from HMS Agincourt...
Hard at work. Hope you're doing better (you cracked your ribs didn't you?). Thanks for the entertainment on a very dreary day.
Yep ribs almost back to full strength now :)
Do a video on japanese Tachibana class(maybe on Kaiten carrier one)
Named after the best state
Sure, the ship survived the Able shot, but I wouldn't have wanted to get within a mile of her.
May we see the USS Tennessee please :)
Am I the only one whom pronounced this ship's name - when I first saw her in a book - "Ark'n'Sarse"?.
(alternatively: "Ark'n'Sass")
Rather like Leicester or almost anywhere in Wales, it is perhaps not the most obvious word to pronounce, when one's hitherto never heard of it.
Are-can-saw. It's an American thing. ;-)
Tough old bird!
Amazing that the US only permanently lost two WWI era battleships. The remaining 14 were better armed (added AA) and with better fire control than they started the war with.
Got a ship for you the uss north dakota dreadnought battleship
Why don’t you discuss the USS Sable?
Somewhat unsurprisingly, this sunk the ship.
thiskillsthecrab.jpg
"No army gun on either side could match the firepower of a battleship's full broadside." Have you forgotten the German railroad guns?
They were almost always naval guns they'd brought ashore :D
And they rarely if ever concentrated them in large numbers for a single target. :)
@@Drachinifel I would think they were also rather useless against moving targets as they would have had very little range on the traversal before they would overbalance the carriage.
The Wyoming's gunnery "wasn't up to standards"? Wow, worse than the RN at Jutland?
The RN battleships gunnery was actually the best of any formation at Jutland. Neatly bracketed by the battlecruisers being the worst.
Tough ship.
From what I've read able test was a huge embarrassment and Baker was kind of put together on the fly to show oh yes atomic weapons can sink ships
But there's still the fact that a world war I battleship survived a 23 kiloton atomic bomb a thousand yards away.
hi mom :D
The Wyoming after they removed the main turrets and mast doesn't look right...
Tough old girl.
Knock, knock.
USS De Haven (DD-469)
America got Battleships right, right from the start, and just kept on going all the way till the absolutely murderous Iowas, and then the Iowa’s again In the ‘80s!
Oh and BTW...
• Shoot all the Exocets you want French while Iowa takes a nap.
• Even the Russians with their gigantic [almost double!] super-sonic P-1000 (improved P-500 Basalt NATO designation Sandbox) and later the far improved P-700 Granit (NATO designation SS-N-19 Shipwreck) would have a hard time bringing the sea worthy of an Iowa into doubt.
But the 32 Tomahawks, and 32 Harpoons (with PLENTY, PLENTY!!! Of space for more of everything, I would recommend splitting the Tomahawks 32 Anti-ship, 32 Land-attack, 32 Harpoons (dual mode, both land/ship-attack).
• AND!!! Those 16”/50s need a specially designed 12” sabot round that will easily comer over a miles. GPS GUIDED. With a rocket booster. Oh boy!
Aaaand another battleship fanboy spotted
USS Arkansas: The first and only battleship to fly.
Still a myth dude
@@invadegreece9281 You are a terribly unfun person aren't you.
@@lordsheogorath3377 nah, just speaking the truth
Im here from world of warships legends i have this boat 😀
Hey, I thought Utah was the oldest US BB to survive naval treaty as she was lost in the Attack on Pearl harbor? Or am I wrong?
Sorry, she had been derated from a Battleship to a Target Ship...(1931 to 07DEC1941, but at least she did distract severalIJN aircraft from attacking other, more vital ships and other vital targets with all they hit her with to sink her...