The type of Harley owner that irritates me is the if it ain't a Harley it isn't a real motorcycle. About 10 years ago I was on my way to work while on my Kawasaki Nomad in stop and go traffic and ran across one of those idiots. He pulls up next to me in traffic in his f150 hd edition truck with all of the Harley stickers all over it and tells me I need to get a real bike. Mind you it was in the lowers 40's while raining and I'm on my bike. He's sitting in his truck warm and dry but I don't have the REAL bike. SMH. Morons everywhere.
Well, since you posed the question... In early summer 1979, I was riding my KZ650 south on Minnesota 26, the beautiful Mississippi river road. I was cruising about 65 or so when two Harleys, of the kind often called "choppers", came up behind me, passed (in a no-passing zone) me, the slowed. Both very ostentatiously put a finger to a nostril and simulated (I hope) blowing the contents of their noses back at me. I could not count the number of times I've been told that I needed to get a "real" motorcycle, while minding my own business at a light, fuel stop, lunch stop, and who knows where else. In contrast, I've never pulled up to a Harley rider and informed them that they needed to acquire a motorcycle capable of exceeding 120mph, running past 100,000 without any serious repairs (as have several of mine), and could safely operate on twisting roads at reasonable velocities without dragging all sorts of chassis parts on the pavement. I probably could bring to mind a number of other insults and demeaning comments I've been presented with by Harley-borne people but you get the idea. So I don't hate Harley riders, but... That's a cool-looking bike you have, there, incidentally.
Yep they are tuff when that type of Harley rider outnumbers you funny how that works huh. I’ve taken the approach of I’ve had my 83 Suzuki 1100 since new when I was in high school you want to line them up for a race lol 😂. The dumbest ones will take the bait and get smoked in front of there friends it’s good fun
Harley hate is more of an internet phenomenon. Most of the things people say are just outdated stereotypes. “They leak oil” “Hondas are half the price and more dependable “ “they’re just a toy for dentist and lawyers to cosplay on the weekend” I’ve been riding for almost twenty years on old sportsters, twin cams and EVOs. No oil stains in my garage. I’ve never paid more than $5k for a Harley and most of the repairs are about $50. Just do ride what you want. The fools in the comment sections probably don’t even own a bike.
Ya, there's a bike for everyone my late bf was a Harley rider ex Marine, he taught me nearly everything I know about fixing and running a bike. As well as duty based ethics. I also luved that the tank was big enough to be bent over Personally I'm an adv rider I needed a tour bike that could handle the trails in NorCal
You want to know why there is a dislike for some Harley riders, because some of them think they are better then everyone on the rode who doesn’t ride a Harley I have seen it first hand and it has happened to me many times.
1. Many only wave to other Harley riders 2. Rev their Harleys non stop. 3. " You're just jealous." 4. " You can't afford one." 5. Drinking and riding 6. " If it ain't a Harley, it's shit." These are a few reasons. For me it's the fact they're not even close to Japanese reliability. They're not nearly as fast as my Japanese bikes, they are so overpriced new it's a joke. The German CEO is a complete woke clown who is going to cost Harley millions when they really can't afford to lose any money. Their merch is what's keeping Harley afloat. Harley lost touch with their fans years ago. They wete the quintessential blue collar, working mans dream bike. Unfortunately Harley kept inflating their prices and it made the younger generations go elsewhere.
I've always rode metric bikes. Never waved at HD clowns. Bought a new Low Rider S 117 and still don't wave at them. I never initiate the gesture. But, no matter what they're riding if they wave, I'll surely return it. HD riders in general are an arrogant bunch. And by the way, the LRS is a blast. Too much dinero tho.
I'm a Harley and cruiser rider plus a GSXR 600 rider. I have experience with both types of riders. I must say in my experience sport bike riders are more reckless and Harley riders are more snobbish. They think Harleys are above all other bikes- in price, that's true but reliability, nope. About every sport bike rider I see is wearing a helmet, almost all Harley riders do not (Ohio is NOT mandatory helmet state.) I love both types of bikes, Harleys are an icon and the looks and sounds are timeless. That said, a sport bike is like a supercar- everything is more precise and a different kind of experience.
It's cause Harley dudes often act like they think they're better than everyone. Without actually being better. I know lots of riders can have ego - but Harley riders have *unfounded* ego. Whereas many sportbike riders really are super fast (not all) - many adv riders really are super adventerous (not all) - etc. Harley dudes just want you to think they're badass - and very rarely have anything to back it up with in terms of skill. Again, not all...
That's true,sport bike riders doing 150 on public highways and cutting in and out of traffic don't have inflated egos. Or the ones that think they can ride like professional moto gp riders on public roads, they don't have inflated egos either.
Na it's the moto gp wannabes losers that think they are cool that are the losers 😂😂😂 nice try though little guy, going "fast" has nothing to do with how tough you are 😂😂 love the projecting from you though
Only the white younger generation. Everybody in my old hood loves Road Glides and Street Glides (mostly road glides these days). You need a bagger if you want to glide with 10” subs. If you want a bigger sub get a tour pack (pronounced “tur” pack) Keep glidin’
It wasn’t the episode, it’s the actual idiots they where making fun of. Those people do actually exist. Been riding since I was 5. My first new vehicle ever was a Harley I was 20 years old. I’m 56 still ride daily weather permitting yet I don’t have HD tattooed anywhere on my body, and my entire identity isn’t tied up in a particular brand of motorcycle. Kind of like when being gay or whatever is your entire identity. The episode was just art imitating life.
"I read a comment and it really made sense...I've changed my mind about..." said no one ever. OG biker here, over fifty years on twos. One thing that never changes is that people tend to generalize and paint with a broad brush. I dealt long ago with my urges to project some sort of image and have been happier since. Yeah, I like Harleys...I own two now but have owned others. I like other bikes and other riders, too. They can count on a wave from me. I've met some of the nicest people on motorcycles...and some real a$$holes, too. Bottom line, ride what you like, be yourself and be kind to others. Very simple. Thanks for the vine...
It seems like Harley riders have to compensate for spending tons of money on an inferior machine. Harleys look and sound pretty cool for the most part, but mathematically (performance and economy) they are inferior to Japanese bikes in every way. I owned a Harley Softail for several years and never felt any great satisfaction in riding it: shitty brakes, lackluster performance, and really not that comfortable. It wasn’t a bad experience, necessarily, but I will never own a Harley again.
I've never experienced anything that the sheep complain about when it comes to people on Harleys. Never had one not wave at me on my honda, never talked to one that gave bad vibes or talked bad about my bike. Im sure all tgese things can be applied to some sport bike riders, but a god chunk of people lack the intellectual integrity to question their position on something, or to not lump whole groups together based on popular stereotypes.
People hate Harley riders and GSXR riders mainly because it’s popular to hate them. They sell a lot so you see them more than other brands. And people have some extreme anecdotal example or experience to justify why they dislike all people who ride a certain bike. After going to many Harley events and seeing people showing up on sport bikes, Japanese cruisers, cars and we all vibing together. I came to the conclusion that people just talk a lot of crap online.
I started touring on a 150cc work bike and got more waves and hello's than when I switched to a Suzuki sport bike. Maybe us as the new generation of bikers can end this eternal beef and join the four great nations: cruisers, baggers, adventure bikers and sports bikes, once and for all
Yes!!! 😊🥹 the new generation of bikers unite, put personal egos aside, and squash all beef once and for all. The closer we all are, the stronger the community will be. That'd be nice 😅 one can dream of such at least 😅😁😭
I ride a 1986 BMW R80. (vids on my yt page) I imagine most motorcyclist that I ride by think WTF was that bike as pass each other and wave. It's not a cruiser, it's not a sport bike. I reside in the middle ground.
@Thunder_Bear_mg I just looked up a pic of your bike, it's really nice! It reminds me a lot of those old Norton Commandos from the 60's. I would be proud to ride it.
I do find it funny how we wear "bad ass biker gear" I was mindful not to wear my riding vest when I went to watch the movie 'Bike Riders' because I didn't want to look like I was cosplaying for a movie 😂
I believe that people generally dislike false bravado in others. For instance, when Harley riders wear leather vests and add a Lone Wolf patch, expecting special treatment. Similarly, sportbike riders may boast about saving money by not having plates, registration, or an endorsement, while owning an $800 Carbon Helmet and bragging about doing 130 in a school zone. Anything that serves as an extension of someone's ego or pride can be overemphasized. This behavior is just a byproduct of the relationship between a grown boy and his toy. Be proud of what you have, no matter what the bike is. You earned it. You don't need to exaggerate with something people couldn't really care about.
Being a Harley rider I've come across both, the posers and the serious Harley riders. If posers would just learn to be themselves and not something they aren't and most likely never will be,they wouldn't come of as fools. No doubt Harleys are expensive, but when one takes a close look, all bikes are expensive.
Hahahahahaha A Harley rider is a Harley rider, just because some of us have a wardrobe that extends beyond Harley branded items doesn't mean they are posers and even if they are, who cares? They ride a Harley and support the brand probably more than the old die hard riders that only buy used and thing they are a Harley Technician, those are the "Posers". Ive run into so many people that talk the big Harley game and yet they only buy used, which doesnt support Harley.
@@Truthdosentexist69 I'm assuming you are trying to say "I seriously doubt?" I do ride, I have a 2021 Street Glide Special, 2014 Dyna Wide Glide and a 2009 Rocker C, my wife also rides and she has a 2009 Tri Glide. Any other stupid assumptions you want to make?
It's comical. I'm on my sport bike and some Harley riders won't wave. I'm on the Harley and some sport bike riders won't wave. Neighbor across the street leaves at about 5:30am on his Harley, straight pipes and leaves like he is on fire every morning, not a care in the world about his neighbors. That is what gives Harley riders a bad name. Those that show zero respect. Lady bikers are not exempt from that either....
I never got the whole thing why they don't wave to each other. I noticed same thing, when I had sportbike, Harleys rarely waved at me and now as a harley rider, not all sportbikers wave back at me. It's kinda lame. But ignorance and disrespect towards the people around you, harley riders and/or sportbike riders regarding noise is an even lamer thing.
First of all, "sport bike" riders. There are very valid reasons why non sport bike riders hate them. I am 65 years old, and have been riding on the street, legally, for 49 years. I have owned close to 40 bikes. None of them have been "sport bikes". I have ridden a couple of them. They are insanely uncomfortable. I was literally still in pain the next day after riding one for just a few miles. They are not designed for normal riding. They are designed specifically for racing. I don't believe I have ever seen one being ridden in a responsible and legal manner. Every single one of them is being ridden VERY recklessly and irresponsibly. They attract that kind of rider. No mature, responsible rider is going to ride one of those things, unless it is for track use only. Their riding position makes them downright dangerous for anyone to ride in stop and go riding, where there are a lot of intersections. Fortunately, their riders usually only kill themselves. As far as Harley Davidson, I own and ride a 1989 FXRS Low Rider, and a 2006 Sportster 1200L. I absolutely love them. I love the look, the sound, and the feel. I love their mechanical simplicity. But I despise Harley Davidson as a company, as well as the smooth, quiet, computerized, flat black trash they currently make. H-D does not currently make anything I want. You couldn't give me a new Harley Davidson, unless I could sell it and keep the money. I am not a fan of the old Harley Davidson company either. Back in 1995, I tried to buy a new base model Sportster 883. They wanted TWICE MSRP for it, and I'd have to wait 6 months to get it. I told them where to stick it, and told myself I would NEVER go to a Harley Davidson dealer again, and I haven't. I went down the street and bought a new Kawasaki Vulcan for UNDER MSRP. I do love the bikes Harley Davidson USED to make, but not the company. I do not own anything that says Harley Davidson on it other than my bikes. Most Harley riders even put down Sportster riders. I own a Sportster. I've even been put down on my FXRS, because "it doesn't make enough power" It seems that a lot of Harley riders are maybe trying to compensate for something.
The only ones who are hated are those who refuse to admit a motorcycle (any motorcycle) is just a consumer product. Owning one says nothing about you. You don’t get to participate in some drama of American individualist “heritage” by owning a Harley any more than if you owned a Kitchenaid mixer and a pair of Keds.
Cop, writing a report, "You witnessed 5 men beating that rider on the electric motorcycle. Why didn't you help?" Harley rider, "Well, I figured five was enough to get the job done."
As a life long Harley fan not currently riding one (Triumph Bobber is my bike of choice these days), all I can say is that I am disappointed in a lot of Harley riders. They are the only ones that ignore my waves, unless I am on a Harley too. Everyone else enjoys the two-wheeled brotherhood without the holier than thou attitude. I must point out that most Harley riders do wave, but there is a minority with an attitude that ruins it for everyone. And of course those are the people you remember, and talk about, and thus the Harley riders get a bad rep in general. I just greet anyone on two wheels, no matter what they are on, get some confused looks from scooter / moped riders sometimes, they are not used to people waving at them haha (This comment is of course based entirely on my experience in my local area, might not be true for everyone, and everywhere. I know for example that in some countries / areas, the adventure bike riders are the ones not getting greeted by others, especially if you are on a BMW GS, and everyone else greeting across bike styles.)
I been riding for 48 years, many many miles, over 30+ different motorcycle and one Harley. And yes you are 100% correct. The problem with Harleys are not the bikes. But rather the "holier than thou attitude" that most of their riders have.
As a sport bike and dual sport rider, I would rather ride with a group of Harleys than sport bikes. I want to enjoy the ride, not render first aid on the side of the road due to a speed measuring contest. The Harley crowd usually has the loudness measuring contest, which is less stressful than picking up someone who exceeded their limits.
I'm not going to just say it's Harley dudes but people who ride cruisers in general. I have noticed that cruiser riders seem to care more about what sports bike riders are riding than it being the other way around. I could care less what anyone rides and down to ride for the sake of riding.
It’s definitely more sport bike riders. Everyone I meet looks down their nose at me when I pull into a meet on my Harley. They post videos comparing themselves left and right. With the South Park episode, Harley riders catch more shit now. See, I work at Harley and I can assure you (I’ve had the conversation with everyone and their brother) we dgaf what anyone else rides. Everyone these days is so in their heads about what others think, it’s honestly disgusting. I smoke flower, cruise and I’m about freedom. Idk why that’s still a foreign concept to people.
@@MrMann-gt1eh I mean in all honesty, that South Park episode was hilarious lol. It did fuel the drama. At meets, I admire all the bikes. Not saying I'd ever purchase one, simply because it's not my thing, but I recognize when there's a badass looking cruiser around.
I’ve rode bikes since my early teen, ran the gamut of bikes. I really loved my Kawi’s over the years. My 1st Harley was in 02 an anniversary Vrod. You talk about haters, on top of that I wore a FF and a Joe Rocket jacket with armor. Now I also wore leather and shortie helmets. I always wear boots and jeans or chaps. I was told that it wasn’t a real Harley, I would ask if 7:04 its because it’s to fast😁 I always responded with the attitude that I’m met with. I appreciate all styles of bikes and would have multiple if I had the cash. I don’t so I choose to ride a Heritage ( and Harley)for the comfort, and the fit & finish of their bikes. Nice video, new sub😎
I enjoy just about every form of motorcycle. I just love bikes, always have. I do like Harley styling and appreciate their relatively crude function, gives them character. I just don't see why I need to dress up like a pirate to own one. You know, conform completely to that non-conformist image. I've seen guys adopt a whole new identity just because they bought a Harley. Pathetic. It actually puts me off the brand.
Good point but this is why you "deviate conforming" to their HD stereo typically identity and Create your own style. I look like a tech bro on my own personal sportser and couldn't care less about opinions
@@zekecowans7792 Yes, I know what you mean. Occasionally I will see someone on a Harley, no beard or face bandana, wearing maybe a white helmet and an Alpinestar jacket and gloves. Just a guy who enjoys his bike and couldn't be bothered with the wannabe bad ass bs. That to me is cool and just garners my respect somehow.
Short answer to the title: Ignorance, arrogance, elitism. I never met a driver of Honda, Kawasaki, BMW, Moto Guzzi ... who disrespect owners of different brands. And our local HD MC doesn't accept female members. I am male, i like HD motocycles, but would never join into this community.
It's not the culture, most of the people seem fine and normal The problem with Harley riders is literally just the bikes. I have a friend who (rode) an old sportster until she smashed into a guard rail and put herself in a wheelchair. She is a little annoying, especially about gear (when I'm riding a Super Cub that can barely get up to 40) and maybe she's right, but the problem isn't that she's worried about my safety, it's that it's disingenuous for a harley rider to pretend she gives a shit about anyone else.
I love the noise a HD makes. I drive a semi and there’s no way one of those is going to sneak into my blind spot without me knowing it’s there. I wish all bikes sounded that way!
You said "they chose their Harley Davidson"🏴 coz they wanted to be a part of that community" And there will be sportsbike riders who follow racing and want to ride the same bikes as their heroes but you get all sorts turning up at race meetings on all types of bikes. I chose a sportsbike because I needed that level of performance before I'd even been to a short circuit race meeting. But other Sportsbike riders introduced me to race meetings and following different championships. I think all of the big brand manufacturers have every kind of person in their customer base and we do what we do, it's crazy individuals who think they control us, about 70% of the World doesn't even speak English so how does anything we do affect them?
I've got no problems with Harley riders. To each his own. I do however have feelings about the company and not for the recent drama. I cannot forgive what they did to Eric Buell and the abandonment of all riders who aren't interested in a cliche cruiser. Yes, i ride a Buell and would struggle to think about buying a Harley. I do like the XR1200 but there again, had a good thing going and abandoned it in favor of a sliver of the motorcycle community.
I agree. Also the Blast was a good starter bike that could build experience and later possible brand loyalty. They joked about this bike even in their own showrooms and did not want them there. Not all manufactures have beginner bikes, but the ones that do sell 50, 100,125cc bikes stand a good chance to be there when they want the 600's or 1000cc (and up).
Your bike is looking nice n clean there.👍😀Im gonna test ride a Fat Bob soon. My pal had one for a month then changed it for a Triumph Rocket. I think Europeans are less brand loyal, just coz I ride a Honda doesn't mean i have to slag off Suzuki ,most of us are grateful we have anything to ride the way prices are going. It would have to be poorly built before I'd slate it. Or dangerous like the Niken, try fly over a crest and you'll find out! Buckaroo time!😂😂
The whole loud pipes thing is bullshit and I've proven it to many many people who have loud pipes and those thinking of getting them. No it doesn't "save lives" by letting people know your around. It's just annoying to everyone around you. With the way new cars are built and sound proofed no one can hear you til your right on them. Too late to react. But hey you do you and I'll keep riding my quiet Honda.
One reason so many immature claim to hate Harley-Davidson is simply Jealousy for what they don't have. When you're riding a Harley-Davidson, some people around you need to justify what they perceive as a lesser bike for what they can ride. People's maturity levels vary greatly. Those that are mature don't hate Harley-Davidson, or, its riders, and enjoy riding their sport bike without malice towards others. The same can be said of Harley Riders that don't look down on sport bike riders or non-Harley bikes. The immature, including those lacking self-esteem will hate Harley-Davidson and claim their non-Harley motorcycle is the best on the planet but only after first ripping Harley-Davidson. A prime example of immaturity are the South Park adult age children that never grew up and thrive on cartoons with stereotypes about Harley Riders. I'm surprised they have not come out with a cartoon aimed at non-Harley bike riders and the stereotypes among this crowd. There would be a plethora of content and entertaining episodes. Never apologize for owning and riding a Harley-Davidson as you're at the top of the food chain in the Motorcycle world. Harley-Davidsons are not for the faint of heart. Moreover, ANY motorcycle you can ride that brings you pleasure and makes you feel good is a sublime experience.
Everybody knows sportbikes and Harleys both suck.🤔 Are Harley's even fast enough to need safety gear beyond gloves? 😅 The only cool bike to ride is a Ducati Scrambler. 😁 j/k - Anything with two wheels, sometimes 3, deserves a wave. 👋
They are hated because people don’t fucking mind their own business. You got two kind people ,that love them and people that just sensitive Yeah, Harley riders are bad ass you can’t imitate handling 1000 pound machine. It’s like a small car with two wheels anybody that can make a U-turn and handle this machine yeah he’s a bad ass or she’s a bad ass. That’s all it takes.
I used to ride a Harley first a Fat Boy then a Road King Classic then a Electra Glide Classic that I created a Street Glide out of long before Harley created a Street Glide but I stopped riding a Harley in 2007 I wasn’t a Harley hater but as time went on the Harley riders that I meet know so little about their motorcycle that they don’t know a Street Glide is actually a Electra Glide and the fact that they own a 4 year old Road Glide with 2,000 miles on it and trailer it to Sturgis while they fly into Sturgis so they can pose at the bar with a beer in their hands for their Fakebook photo is so uncool to me no matter how cool posing for a photo it to them 😐 I have to force myself to not comment on my Fakebook friends posts that ride Harley’s 🤐 not really hate more comical 🤫
Oh yeah I feel that, being that I live not far from Daytona, durning daytona Bike to see all the hotels have trailers parked in em, filled to the max, each hotel, makes me wonder if anyone actually rides to daytona bike week, or ifs it's all just for show and tell. I feel like part of the fun of arriving at bike rallies, is the journey you took to get there, so that once you get there, you hang out, chill and what not, knowing you rode X amount of miles or days to get there and enjoy the moment.. To me that makes sense at least.
_"HarleyDavidson is poor quality, still drafting on its past 1950s reputation, overpriced machines for business executives with too much money and too little motorcycle sense. Everyone knows this. People have more fun trading parts and hunting for vintage barn finds than actually riding them. If you want to look "cool and loud" riding to the bar once a week buy a HD. the only thing keeping this company going is the Cult of Dumb still willing to pay premium for mediocrity. thems the facts."_ (btw this is a quote told to me by a HD Eng turned HD dealer owner. unfortunately after i bought a HD from him. never again).
Why does this girl or anybody else’s opinion matter? you do you but don’t try to dictate how anybody should be the Internet is really screwing up people nowadays like there opinion matters .This generation has serious problems.
Hate is a strong word. You can't deny the success of HD in creating a brand and lifestyle. BUT as with all things, you have a few extremists that carry it a bit too far. You are already on a very robust piece of hardware that gets attention. Do you have to put straight pipes on every bike? It's proven there is no HP advantage and contrary to folklore, loud pipes DO NOT SAVE LIVES. Ape hangers are ridiculous, and actually reduce control. Choppers are cool to look at, but handling again, is reduced. Why do HD riders want to punish their co-pilots with a tiny b!tch pad and a t-shirt that says "if you can read this, the b!tch fell off"? Just seems to all add up to being counter productive to support the brand, and it's continued success. And to HD.... just because your logo is on it, it shouldn't cost 3x of anyone other product. You have some cool stuff that is useful for touring for everyone. But I can buy Wiley-X sunglasses for half of the identical product with HD stuck on the earpieces.
@randomjunks I know you're joking, but my first road bike was a 1986 Honda Shadow 700(?) 750(?), can't remember, but I bought it for exactly that reason! I was only a few years out of high school and was starting in my trade and I couldn't afford a Harley, but boy did I love the look (and SOUND) of them. Years later a friend at work wanted to sell me his Harley and I must say, after the fluidity and smoothness of that Honda, riding his bike (granted, it was one of the last AMF manufactured ones, which I'm told wasn't their best) just felt like a step backwards in craftsmanship. Kind of like driving a tractor. They're still beautiful machines, but not for me.
@@ivandeward4601 no I’m being serious. I’m going to get a Honda. I was thinking about either a saber or a fury or might just stick with an older shadow.
@@randomjunks1198 You won't regret the Honda or any of the Big Four Japanese bikes, I've owned each brand in one form or another and have never been disappointed. I really miss my old Shadow.
There is something that Harley has been for decades and recently one word sums it up: Maga. At what? 90%? In the 70's they would have Demolition parties of Japanese bikes. Over the decades; Rebel flags, nazi symbols, trump signs, white supremecy. Go to any rally and that crap is plastered everywhere. I love Harleys, always have. Been cross country 3 times, countless other distance trips and while yes, individually there are a great "Harley Riders", as a group, who wants to be associated with that if you are not? Even now, they are tearing themselves apart because Harley management went "woke". That's literally crazy. Maga is a cult. No thanks
The type of Harley owner that irritates me is the if it ain't a Harley it isn't a real motorcycle. About 10 years ago I was on my way to work while on my Kawasaki Nomad in stop and go traffic and ran across one of those idiots. He pulls up next to me in traffic in his f150 hd edition truck with all of the Harley stickers all over it and tells me I need to get a real bike. Mind you it was in the lowers 40's while raining and I'm on my bike. He's sitting in his truck warm and dry but I don't have the REAL bike. SMH. Morons everywhere.
You would need to explain to the Harley people, they don't understand the riding part.
Well, since you posed the question...
In early summer 1979, I was riding my KZ650 south on Minnesota 26, the beautiful Mississippi river road. I was cruising about 65 or so when two Harleys, of the kind often called "choppers", came up behind me, passed (in a no-passing zone) me, the slowed. Both very ostentatiously put a finger to a nostril and simulated (I hope) blowing the contents of their noses back at me.
I could not count the number of times I've been told that I needed to get a "real" motorcycle, while minding my own business at a light, fuel stop, lunch stop, and who knows where else.
In contrast, I've never pulled up to a Harley rider and informed them that they needed to acquire a motorcycle capable of exceeding 120mph, running past 100,000 without any serious repairs (as have several of mine), and could safely operate on twisting roads at reasonable velocities without dragging all sorts of chassis parts on the pavement.
I probably could bring to mind a number of other insults and demeaning comments I've been presented with by Harley-borne people but you get the idea.
So I don't hate Harley riders, but...
That's a cool-looking bike you have, there, incidentally.
Yep they are tuff when that type of Harley rider outnumbers you funny how that works huh. I’ve taken the approach of I’ve had my 83 Suzuki 1100 since new when I was in high school you want to line them up for a race lol 😂. The dumbest ones will take the bait and get smoked in front of there friends it’s good fun
Harley - a clothing company that still makes a few bikes; for now
Harley hate is more of an internet phenomenon. Most of the things people say are just outdated stereotypes. “They leak oil” “Hondas are half the price and more dependable “ “they’re just a toy for dentist and lawyers to cosplay on the weekend” I’ve been riding for almost twenty years on old sportsters, twin cams and EVOs. No oil stains in my garage. I’ve never paid more than $5k for a Harley and most of the repairs are about $50. Just do ride what you want. The fools in the comment sections probably don’t even own a bike.
true.
Ya, there's a bike for everyone my late bf was a Harley rider ex Marine, he taught me nearly everything I know about fixing and running a bike. As well as duty based ethics. I also luved that the tank was big enough to be bent over
Personally I'm an adv rider I needed a tour bike that could handle the trails in NorCal
I couldn't have said it better. "have you got a magnet at the back to catch the parts that vibrated off?" 😂😂
@@jenniferferris44well a Ladies requirement is different from a Boys.😂😂
@@davidboydarnott417 as the guy saying it pulls off in a Kia
You want to know why there is a dislike for some Harley riders, because some of them think they are better then everyone on the rode who doesn’t ride a Harley I have seen it first hand and it has happened to me many times.
Yeah..... there is a big bunch of idiots out there who think they are special owning a Harley.
1. Many only wave to other Harley riders
2. Rev their Harleys non stop.
3. " You're just jealous."
4. " You can't afford one."
5. Drinking and riding
6. " If it ain't a Harley, it's shit."
These are a few reasons. For me it's the fact they're not even close to Japanese reliability. They're not nearly as fast as my Japanese bikes, they are so overpriced new it's a joke. The German CEO is a complete woke clown who is going to cost Harley millions when they really can't afford to lose any money. Their merch is what's keeping Harley afloat. Harley lost touch with their fans years ago. They wete the quintessential blue collar, working mans dream bike. Unfortunately Harley kept inflating their prices and it made the younger generations go elsewhere.
I've always rode metric bikes. Never waved at HD clowns. Bought a new Low Rider S 117 and still don't wave at them. I never initiate the gesture. But, no matter what they're riding if they wave, I'll surely return it. HD riders in general are an arrogant bunch. And by the way, the LRS is a blast. Too much dinero tho.
I'm a Harley and cruiser rider plus a GSXR 600 rider. I have experience with both types of riders. I must say in my experience sport bike riders are more reckless and Harley riders are more snobbish. They think Harleys are above all other bikes- in price, that's true but reliability, nope. About every sport bike rider I see is wearing a helmet, almost all Harley riders do not (Ohio is NOT mandatory helmet state.) I love both types of bikes, Harleys are an icon and the looks and sounds are timeless. That said, a sport bike is like a supercar- everything is more precise and a different kind of experience.
i get what your saying sis ...but your also putting out the i have to many cats vibe ..
It's cause Harley dudes often act like they think they're better than everyone. Without actually being better.
I know lots of riders can have ego - but Harley riders have *unfounded* ego. Whereas many sportbike riders really are super fast (not all) - many adv riders really are super adventerous (not all) - etc.
Harley dudes just want you to think they're badass - and very rarely have anything to back it up with in terms of skill. Again, not all...
That's true,sport bike riders doing 150 on public highways and cutting in and out of traffic don't have inflated egos. Or the ones that think they can ride like professional moto gp riders on public roads, they don't have inflated egos either.
@@Truthdosentexist69 found the Harley guy
I see more Harley hate than sport bike hate
Na it's the moto gp wannabes losers that think they are cool that are the losers 😂😂😂 nice try though little guy, going "fast" has nothing to do with how tough you are 😂😂 love the projecting from you though
@Crimepaysaskapolitician I know right. The guy has zero self awareness at all 😂😂
I ride a Boulevard. Most of my partners got Harleys but they always looking at my bike.
my dad has a boulevard and he absolutely LOVES it
The South Park biker episode turned entire younger generations against Harley-Davidson.
Only the white younger generation. Everybody in my old hood loves Road Glides and Street Glides (mostly road glides these days).
You need a bagger if you want to glide with 10” subs.
If you want a bigger sub get a tour pack (pronounced “tur” pack)
Keep glidin’
Only the stupid ones
It wasn’t the episode, it’s the actual idiots they where making fun of. Those people do actually exist. Been riding since I was 5. My first new vehicle ever was a Harley I was 20 years old. I’m 56 still ride daily weather permitting yet I don’t have HD tattooed anywhere on my body, and my entire identity isn’t tied up in a particular brand of motorcycle. Kind of like when being gay or whatever is your entire identity. The episode was just art imitating life.
@Alogicchannel Dumb af. I see those guys blasting garbage music with loud exhaust, trying to look cool. It's an abortion on wheels
no it was the people featured in that episode, they 100% exist and give real Harley riders a bad name
"I read a comment and it really made sense...I've changed my mind about..." said no one ever.
OG biker here, over fifty years on twos. One thing that never changes is that people tend to generalize and paint with a broad brush. I dealt long ago with my urges to project some sort of image and have been happier since. Yeah, I like Harleys...I own two now but have owned others. I like other bikes and other riders, too. They can count on a wave from me. I've met some of the nicest people on motorcycles...and some real a$$holes, too. Bottom line, ride what you like, be yourself and be kind to others. Very simple. Thanks for the vine...
It seems like Harley riders have to compensate for spending tons of money on an inferior machine. Harleys look and sound pretty cool for the most part, but mathematically (performance and economy) they are inferior to Japanese bikes in every way. I owned a Harley Softail for several years and never felt any great satisfaction in riding it: shitty brakes, lackluster performance, and really not that comfortable. It wasn’t a bad experience, necessarily, but I will never own a Harley again.
I've been riding since 1972 and I must say, I agree with every thing you said.
I've never experienced anything that the sheep complain about when it comes to people on Harleys.
Never had one not wave at me on my honda, never talked to one that gave bad vibes or talked bad about my bike.
Im sure all tgese things can be applied to some sport bike riders, but a god chunk of people lack the intellectual integrity to question their position on something, or to not lump whole groups together based on popular stereotypes.
People hate Harley riders and GSXR riders mainly because it’s popular to hate them. They sell a lot so you see them more than other brands.
And people have some extreme anecdotal example or experience to justify why they dislike all people who ride a certain bike.
After going to many Harley events and seeing people showing up on sport bikes, Japanese cruisers, cars and we all vibing together.
I came to the conclusion that people just talk a lot of crap online.
I started touring on a 150cc work bike and got more waves and hello's than when I switched to a Suzuki sport bike. Maybe us as the new generation of bikers can end this eternal beef and join the four great nations: cruisers, baggers, adventure bikers and sports bikes, once and for all
Yes!!! 😊🥹 the new generation of bikers unite, put personal egos aside, and squash all beef once and for all. The closer we all are, the stronger the community will be. That'd be nice 😅 one can dream of such at least 😅😁😭
I ride a 1986 BMW R80. (vids on my yt page) I imagine most motorcyclist that I ride by think WTF was that bike as pass each other and wave. It's not a cruiser, it's not a sport bike. I reside in the middle ground.
@Thunder_Bear_mg I just looked up a pic of your bike, it's really nice! It reminds me a lot of those old Norton Commandos from the 60's. I would be proud to ride it.
I do find it funny how we wear "bad ass biker gear" I was mindful not to wear my riding vest when I went to watch the movie 'Bike Riders' because I didn't want to look like I was cosplaying for a movie 😂
😂😂😂 that's funny
I believe that people generally dislike false bravado in others. For instance, when Harley riders wear leather vests and add a Lone Wolf patch, expecting special treatment. Similarly, sportbike riders may boast about saving money by not having plates, registration, or an endorsement, while owning an $800 Carbon Helmet and bragging about doing 130 in a school zone. Anything that serves as an extension of someone's ego or pride can be overemphasized. This behavior is just a byproduct of the relationship between a grown boy and his toy. Be proud of what you have, no matter what the bike is. You earned it. You don't need to exaggerate with something people couldn't really care about.
All Truth young Lady! Don't change your great attitude. You speak wise truth!
Compare accidents from crotch rocket guys to Harley riders. Sport bikers ride like idiots.
Being a Harley rider I've come across both, the posers and the serious Harley riders. If posers would just learn to be themselves and not something they aren't and most likely never will be,they wouldn't come of as fools. No doubt Harleys are expensive, but when one takes a close look, all bikes are expensive.
You've got a point, and yeah, there isn't really a "cheap" new bike out there.
Hahahahahaha
A Harley rider is a Harley rider, just because some of us have a wardrobe that extends beyond Harley branded items doesn't mean they are posers and even if they are, who cares? They ride a Harley and support the brand probably more than the old die hard riders that only buy used and thing they are a Harley Technician, those are the "Posers". Ive run into so many people that talk the big Harley game and yet they only buy used, which doesnt support Harley.
@@snakebite6511 Lol, I doubt seriously you even ride.
@@Truthdosentexist69 I'm assuming you are trying to say "I seriously doubt?" I do ride, I have a 2021 Street Glide Special, 2014 Dyna Wide Glide and a 2009 Rocker C, my wife also rides and she has a 2009 Tri Glide. Any other stupid assumptions you want to make?
@@snakebite6511 Lol
Some people just need something to complain about, even if they have no idea what they're talking about
It's comical. I'm on my sport bike and some Harley riders won't wave. I'm on the Harley and some sport bike riders won't wave. Neighbor across the street leaves at about 5:30am on his Harley, straight pipes and leaves like he is on fire every morning, not a care in the world about his neighbors. That is what gives Harley riders a bad name. Those that show zero respect. Lady bikers are not exempt from that either....
I can apply that to sport bike riders too😂
This is why no one like sport bike riders
I never got the whole thing why they don't wave to each other. I noticed same thing, when I had sportbike, Harleys rarely waved at me and now as a harley rider, not all sportbikers wave back at me.
It's kinda lame. But ignorance and disrespect towards the people around you, harley riders and/or sportbike riders regarding noise is an even lamer thing.
Because sportbike riders are nothing but moto gp wannabes 😂😂
Nothing you named is wrong at all lmfao
First of all, "sport bike" riders. There are very valid reasons why non sport bike riders hate them. I am 65 years old, and have been riding on the street, legally, for 49 years. I have owned close to 40 bikes. None of them have been "sport bikes". I have ridden a couple of them. They are insanely uncomfortable. I was literally still in pain the next day after riding one for just a few miles. They are not designed for normal riding. They are designed specifically for racing. I don't believe I have ever seen one being ridden in a responsible and legal manner. Every single one of them is being ridden VERY recklessly and irresponsibly. They attract that kind of rider. No mature, responsible rider is going to ride one of those things, unless it is for track use only. Their riding position makes them downright dangerous for anyone to ride in stop and go riding, where there are a lot of intersections. Fortunately, their riders usually only kill themselves.
As far as Harley Davidson, I own and ride a 1989 FXRS Low Rider, and a 2006 Sportster 1200L. I absolutely love them. I love the look, the sound, and the feel. I love their mechanical simplicity. But I despise Harley Davidson as a company, as well as the smooth, quiet, computerized, flat black trash they currently make. H-D does not currently make anything I want. You couldn't give me a new Harley Davidson, unless I could sell it and keep the money. I am not a fan of the old Harley Davidson company either. Back in 1995, I tried to buy a new base model Sportster 883. They wanted TWICE MSRP for it, and I'd have to wait 6 months to get it. I told them where to stick it, and told myself I would NEVER go to a Harley Davidson dealer again, and I haven't. I went down the street and bought a new Kawasaki Vulcan for UNDER MSRP. I do love the bikes Harley Davidson USED to make, but not the company. I do not own anything that says Harley Davidson on it other than my bikes.
Most Harley riders even put down Sportster riders. I own a Sportster. I've even been put down on my FXRS, because "it doesn't make enough power" It seems that a lot of Harley riders are maybe trying to compensate for something.
The only ones who are hated are those who refuse to admit a motorcycle (any motorcycle) is just a consumer product. Owning one says nothing about you. You don’t get to participate in some drama of American individualist “heritage” by owning a Harley any more than if you owned a Kitchenaid mixer and a pair of Keds.
Cop, writing a report, "You witnessed 5 men beating that rider on the electric motorcycle. Why didn't you help?"
Harley rider, "Well, I figured five was enough to get the job done."
Pretty sure the new hate for Harley is them going woke.
As a life long Harley fan not currently riding one (Triumph Bobber is my bike of choice these days), all I can say is that I am disappointed in a lot of Harley riders. They are the only ones that ignore my waves, unless I am on a Harley too. Everyone else enjoys the two-wheeled brotherhood without the holier than thou attitude. I must point out that most Harley riders do wave, but there is a minority with an attitude that ruins it for everyone. And of course those are the people you remember, and talk about, and thus the Harley riders get a bad rep in general. I just greet anyone on two wheels, no matter what they are on, get some confused looks from scooter / moped riders sometimes, they are not used to people waving at them haha
(This comment is of course based entirely on my experience in my local area, might not be true for everyone, and everywhere. I know for example that in some countries / areas, the adventure bike riders are the ones not getting greeted by others, especially if you are on a BMW GS, and everyone else greeting across bike styles.)
I been riding for 48 years, many many miles, over 30+ different motorcycle and one Harley. And yes you are 100% correct. The problem with Harleys are not the bikes. But rather the "holier than thou attitude" that most of their riders have.
I ride a Harley and wave to everyone. ADV riders almost never wave back though.
As a sport bike and dual sport rider, I would rather ride with a group of Harleys than sport bikes. I want to enjoy the ride, not render first aid on the side of the road due to a speed measuring contest. The Harley crowd usually has the loudness measuring contest, which is less stressful than picking up someone who exceeded their limits.
Its just Human nature to be competitive and tribal.
I'm not going to just say it's Harley dudes but people who ride cruisers in general. I have noticed that cruiser riders seem to care more about what sports bike riders are riding than it being the other way around. I could care less what anyone rides and down to ride for the sake of riding.
It’s definitely more sport bike riders. Everyone I meet looks down their nose at me when I pull into a meet on my Harley. They post videos comparing themselves left and right. With the South Park episode, Harley riders catch more shit now. See, I work at Harley and I can assure you (I’ve had the conversation with everyone and their brother) we dgaf what anyone else rides. Everyone these days is so in their heads about what others think, it’s honestly disgusting. I smoke flower, cruise and I’m about freedom. Idk why that’s still a foreign concept to people.
@@MrMann-gt1eh I mean in all honesty, that South Park episode was hilarious lol. It did fuel the drama. At meets, I admire all the bikes. Not saying I'd ever purchase one, simply because it's not my thing, but I recognize when there's a badass looking cruiser around.
@@rich075 no doubt it was hilarious! …but some people take ish seriously.
Harley hate is due to the 1%, just like people that hate the Sportbike riders that do wheelies on the freeways. Its always the few bad apples.
I’ve rode bikes since my early teen, ran the gamut of bikes. I really loved my Kawi’s over the years. My 1st Harley was in 02 an anniversary Vrod. You talk about haters, on top of that I wore a FF and a Joe Rocket jacket with armor. Now I also wore leather and shortie helmets. I always wear boots and jeans or chaps. I was told that it wasn’t a real Harley, I would ask if 7:04 its because it’s to fast😁 I always responded with the attitude that I’m met with. I appreciate all styles of bikes and would have multiple if I had the cash. I don’t so I choose to ride a Heritage ( and Harley)for the comfort, and the fit & finish of their bikes. Nice video, new sub😎
I rode a friend’s V-Rod once and was totally impressed. Too bad most “Harley Riders” don’t consider it a real bike, so stupid.
I just get tired of seeing the same Harley’s everywhere I go so I’d rather be different
As a young adult in the 70s owning a Harley was the ultimate, it would be parked in the living room at night.
I enjoy just about every form of motorcycle. I just love bikes, always have. I do like Harley styling and appreciate their relatively crude function, gives them character. I just don't see why I need to dress up like a pirate to own one. You know, conform completely to that non-conformist image. I've seen guys adopt a whole new identity just because they bought a Harley. Pathetic. It actually puts me off the brand.
Good point but this is why you "deviate conforming" to their HD stereo typically identity and Create your own style. I look like a tech bro on my own personal sportser and couldn't care less about opinions
@@zekecowans7792 Yes, I know what you mean. Occasionally I will see someone on a Harley, no beard or face bandana, wearing maybe a white helmet and an Alpinestar jacket and gloves. Just a guy who enjoys his bike and couldn't be bothered with the wannabe bad ass bs. That to me is cool and just garners my respect somehow.
Short answer to the title: Ignorance, arrogance, elitism.
I never met a driver of Honda, Kawasaki, BMW, Moto Guzzi ... who disrespect owners of different brands. And our local HD MC doesn't accept female members. I am male, i like HD motocycles, but would never join into this community.
It's not the culture, most of the people seem fine and normal The problem with Harley riders is literally just the bikes. I have a friend who (rode) an old sportster until she smashed into a guard rail and put herself in a wheelchair. She is a little annoying, especially about gear (when I'm riding a Super Cub that can barely get up to 40) and maybe she's right, but the problem isn't that she's worried about my safety, it's that it's disingenuous for a harley rider to pretend she gives a shit about anyone else.
Harleys are beautiful machines. They vibrate too much for me. Don't hate them just not going own 1 because of vibration.
they hate Harley because they are woke
I agree 💯
@@FrankBonessa Most folks dont care what politics you are. That is, until they throw it in your face.
What is it with the woke crap go get professional help
I love the noise a HD makes. I drive a semi and there’s no way one of those is going to sneak into my blind spot without me knowing it’s there. I wish all bikes sounded that way!
You said "they chose their Harley Davidson"🏴 coz they wanted to be a part of that community"
And there will be sportsbike riders who follow racing and want to ride the same bikes as their heroes but you get all sorts turning up at race meetings on all types of bikes.
I chose a sportsbike because I needed that level of performance before I'd even been to a short circuit race meeting. But other Sportsbike riders introduced me to race meetings and following different championships.
I think all of the big brand manufacturers have every kind of person in their customer base and we do what we do, it's crazy individuals who think they control us, about 70% of the World doesn't even speak English so how does anything we do affect them?
I've got no problems with Harley riders. To each his own. I do however have feelings about the company and not for the recent drama. I cannot forgive what they did to Eric Buell and the abandonment of all riders who aren't interested in a cliche cruiser. Yes, i ride a Buell and would struggle to think about buying a Harley. I do like the XR1200 but there again, had a good thing going and abandoned it in favor of a sliver of the motorcycle community.
I agree. Also the Blast was a good starter bike that could build experience and later possible brand loyalty. They joked about this bike even in their own showrooms and did not want them there. Not all manufactures have beginner bikes, but the ones that do sell 50, 100,125cc bikes stand a good chance to be there when they want the 600's or 1000cc (and up).
Your bike is looking nice n clean there.👍😀Im gonna test ride a Fat Bob soon. My pal had one for a month then changed it for a Triumph Rocket.
I think Europeans are less brand loyal, just coz I ride a Honda doesn't mean i have to slag off Suzuki ,most of us are grateful we have anything to ride the way prices are going. It would have to be poorly built before I'd slate it.
Or dangerous like the Niken, try fly over a crest and you'll find out! Buckaroo time!😂😂
I pick up my first ever Harley tomorrow, a '21 Fatbob.
I will NEVER wear the uniform!
Harleys are awesome
I'm 63 and ride a new MT07 and hogs Don't like my riding style fast and hard😢😮
The Harley sound and vibration of potatoe...
That's why I ride my Harley....
If you have a cut you don't wear it in a car!
The whole loud pipes thing is bullshit and I've proven it to many many people who have loud pipes and those thinking of getting them. No it doesn't "save lives" by letting people know your around. It's just annoying to everyone around you. With the way new cars are built and sound proofed no one can hear you til your right on them. Too late to react. But hey you do you and I'll keep riding my quiet Honda.
One reason so many immature claim to hate Harley-Davidson is simply Jealousy for what they don't have. When you're riding a Harley-Davidson, some people around you need to justify what they perceive as a lesser bike for what they can ride. People's maturity levels vary greatly.
Those that are mature don't hate Harley-Davidson, or, its riders, and enjoy riding their sport bike without malice towards others. The same can be said of Harley Riders that don't look down on sport bike riders or non-Harley bikes.
The immature, including those lacking self-esteem will hate Harley-Davidson and claim their non-Harley motorcycle is the best on the planet but only after first ripping Harley-Davidson.
A prime example of immaturity are the South Park adult age children that never grew up and thrive on cartoons with stereotypes about Harley Riders. I'm surprised they have not come out with a cartoon aimed at non-Harley bike riders and the stereotypes among this crowd. There would be a plethora of content and entertaining episodes.
Never apologize for owning and riding a Harley-Davidson as you're at the top of the food chain in the Motorcycle world. Harley-Davidsons are not for the faint of heart.
Moreover, ANY motorcycle you can ride that brings you pleasure and makes you feel good is a sublime experience.
Fake, if you think people hate Harley’s and their riders.
Everybody knows sportbikes and Harleys both suck.🤔 Are Harley's even fast enough to need safety gear beyond gloves? 😅
The only cool bike to ride is a Ducati Scrambler. 😁
j/k - Anything with two wheels, sometimes 3, deserves a wave. 👋
Ducati scramblers are a fun ride!!
REAL motorcycles have center stands. 😁
Don’t B A Hater Life To Short✌️
They are hated because people don’t fucking mind their own business. You got two kind people ,that love them and people that just sensitive
Yeah, Harley riders are bad ass you can’t imitate handling 1000 pound machine. It’s like a small car with two wheels anybody that can make a U-turn and handle this machine yeah he’s a bad ass or she’s a bad ass. That’s all it takes.
Especially if the U-turn isn't a duck walk!
I used to ride a Harley first a Fat Boy then a Road King Classic then a Electra Glide Classic that I created a Street Glide out of long before Harley created a Street Glide but I stopped riding a Harley in 2007 I wasn’t a Harley hater but as time went on the Harley riders that I meet know so little about their motorcycle that they don’t know a Street Glide is actually a Electra Glide and the fact that they own a 4 year old Road Glide with 2,000 miles on it and trailer it to Sturgis while they fly into Sturgis so they can pose at the bar with a beer in their hands for their Fakebook photo is so uncool to me no matter how cool posing for a photo it to them 😐 I have to force myself to not comment on my Fakebook friends posts that ride Harley’s 🤐 not really hate more comical 🤫
Oh yeah I feel that, being that I live not far from Daytona, durning daytona Bike to see all the hotels have trailers parked in em, filled to the max, each hotel, makes me wonder if anyone actually rides to daytona bike week, or ifs it's all just for show and tell. I feel like part of the fun of arriving at bike rallies, is the journey you took to get there, so that once you get there, you hang out, chill and what not, knowing you rode X amount of miles or days to get there and enjoy the moment.. To me that makes sense at least.
Thinking your a badass will get you hate
_"HarleyDavidson is poor quality, still drafting on its past 1950s reputation, overpriced machines for business executives with too much money and too little motorcycle sense. Everyone knows this. People have more fun trading parts and hunting for vintage barn finds than actually riding them. If you want to look "cool and loud" riding to the bar once a week buy a HD. the only thing keeping this company going is the Cult of Dumb still willing to pay premium for mediocrity. thems the facts."_ (btw this is a quote told to me by a HD Eng turned HD dealer owner. unfortunately after i bought a HD from him. never again).
Nobody believes you fool 😂😂
Why does this girl or anybody else’s opinion matter? you do you but don’t try to dictate how anybody should be the Internet is really screwing up people nowadays like there opinion matters .This generation has serious problems.
Hey hey im insulted. I have 24 CVO st 😅
Harleys are a bag of sh**te,basically 2 wheeled tractors 😂
Hate is a strong word. You can't deny the success of HD in creating a brand and lifestyle. BUT as with all things, you have a few extremists that carry it a bit too far. You are already on a very robust piece of hardware that gets attention. Do you have to put straight pipes on every bike? It's proven there is no HP advantage and contrary to folklore, loud pipes DO NOT SAVE LIVES. Ape hangers are ridiculous, and actually reduce control. Choppers are cool to look at, but handling again, is reduced. Why do HD riders want to punish their co-pilots with a tiny b!tch pad and a t-shirt that says "if you can read this, the b!tch fell off"? Just seems to all add up to being counter productive to support the brand, and it's continued success. And to HD.... just because your logo is on it, it shouldn't cost 3x of anyone other product. You have some cool stuff that is useful for touring for everyone. But I can buy Wiley-X sunglasses for half of the identical product with HD stuck on the earpieces.
I like the Harley look so I’m getting a Honda 😂
@randomjunks I know you're joking, but my first road bike was a 1986 Honda Shadow 700(?) 750(?), can't remember, but I bought it for exactly that reason! I was only a few years out of high school and was starting in my trade and I couldn't afford a Harley, but boy did I love the look (and SOUND) of them. Years later a friend at work wanted to sell me his Harley and I must say, after the fluidity and smoothness of that Honda, riding his bike (granted, it was one of the last AMF manufactured ones, which I'm told wasn't their best) just felt like a step backwards in craftsmanship. Kind of like driving a tractor. They're still beautiful machines, but not for me.
@@ivandeward4601 no I’m being serious. I’m going to get a Honda. I was thinking about either a saber or a fury or might just stick with an older shadow.
@@randomjunks1198 You won't regret the Honda or any of the Big Four Japanese bikes, I've owned each brand in one form or another and have never been disappointed. I really miss my old Shadow.
This is the dumbest thing ever.
😍 In my next life...I wanna' come back as your Solo Seat 🥰!!!!
Wow I'm pretty sure she's uber impressed by your comment. Probably works on all women. Let us know when your book comes out.
Yank rubbish, if the only bike available was a Harley I'd sooner not bother.
There is something that Harley has been for decades and recently one word sums it up: Maga. At what? 90%?
In the 70's they would have Demolition parties of Japanese bikes.
Over the decades; Rebel flags, nazi symbols, trump signs, white supremecy. Go to any rally and that crap is plastered everywhere.
I love Harleys, always have. Been cross country 3 times, countless other distance trips and while yes, individually there are a great "Harley Riders", as a group, who wants to be associated with that if you are not?
Even now, they are tearing themselves apart because Harley management went "woke". That's literally crazy. Maga is a cult.
No thanks
Sportbike rider's hate HD riders because their butts start hurting after 60 miles on the highway.
Harley’s are terrible motorbikes ridden by people who are convinced they are the only true motorcycles. They also tend to be losers.
wankers who never grew up especially stupid biker gangs,who are just just dickheads
They hate harley because they are posers 🤣🤣🤣