Victory II Class Star Destroyer vs Assault Frigate Mark II | Star Wars: Who Would Win

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  • @EckhartsLadder
    @EckhartsLadder  7 ปีที่แล้ว +73

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    • @futboloscar194
      @futboloscar194 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      EckhartsLadder HI love your vids!

    • @feliperojas9860
      @feliperojas9860 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      EckhartsLadder corelian destroyer vs venator attack cruiser

    • @EckhartsLadder
      @EckhartsLadder  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +dhmis 117 thanks dude!

    • @futboloscar194
      @futboloscar194 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      EckhartsLadder your the best everyday i keep hoping you make a other vid and your welcome!!

    • @khorneberzerker7192
      @khorneberzerker7192 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your videos are quality! btw i have a long requested topic: Tau Empire (Warhammer 40k) vs The Covenant (Halo)
      hope this should be fun!

  • @inspectorbutters166
    @inspectorbutters166 6 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I won't lie: Ever since I've played EAW I kind of had a nerd crush on the mk2, so I was hoping for it to win.
    I accept your points though.

  • @MrDyl55
    @MrDyl55 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Finally get to see the Victory class. Unfortunately it wasn't the Victory 1 with it's more interesting armerment, but I'll take what I can get.

  • @aaronl9530
    @aaronl9530 7 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Vatican vs Jedi order

    • @a.morphous66
      @a.morphous66 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The Swiss Guard will destroy, especially if the Jedi Temple is painted like a circus tent.

    • @callusklaus2413
      @callusklaus2413 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Aaron Lariosa Trick question, Emperor Palpameme was the last pop, look him up.

    • @gagida1829
      @gagida1829 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haua

    • @kiazkhazz7740
      @kiazkhazz7740 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      hide the padawans

    • @admiralfishchipsman573
      @admiralfishchipsman573 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it would actually make a lot of sense because the Swiss guard have guns

  • @18videowatcher41
    @18videowatcher41 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video, as always. Since we're talking about the Assault Frigate Mark II, I have to say, its progenitor, the Dreadnought-class Heavy Cruiser, is one of my favorite capital ships in the Star Wars universe. I think it could be a very capable ship, even in the Rebel/Imperial and Resistance/First Order era. Take the design, optimize the weapons placement a bit, and factor in automation to allow for a smaller crew size, then build it from the ground up with modern technology. With a lower crew requirement, as well as better weapons, armor, shields, and engines, it would be a formidable ship. Give it beefier engines, more point-defense turrets, and multiple shield generators, and it just gets better.

  • @Gamer-gv7xn
    @Gamer-gv7xn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Providence class command ship smaller version vs the MC80 home one Type Star Cruiser

    • @princeofpokemon2934
      @princeofpokemon2934 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Isn't the Providence-class carrier/destroyer the same thing as the Taranch dreadnought?

    • @alejandroelluxray5298
      @alejandroelluxray5298 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@princeofpokemon2934 well, that will be the big version of the Providence, I guess, but in this case is only going to be use the normal 1,087 meters version

    • @ekerslithery5955
      @ekerslithery5955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This would be a cool fight but MC80 home one types were the strongest of the MC80 line and carried 120 fighters while the providence carries 240 weaker fighters but probably has more weapons. I think the MC80 wins

  • @crgkevin6542
    @crgkevin6542 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In Empire at War, I always found the Assault Frigate MKII a bit underwhelming. There's not really a noticeable improvement over the Nebulon B, and they're slightly more fragile in game. The Victory II however, is a definite improvement over the old Aclamator class that's available early in the game.

  • @taylorbelle44k
    @taylorbelle44k 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the videos ,keep up the good work!
    I'd love to see my two favourite fast attack ships go head to head :
    Marauder Corvette vs Carrack Cruiser

  • @ВасилийДанилов-у8я
    @ВасилийДанилов-у8я 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I believe you got this kind of wrong. In the "Empire at War" video game the aaf2 has overlapping forward firing arcs on all of its weapons. The ship tends to go broadside because of the game's terrible ai which tends to set the star destroyers into broadside and spin around your ships for no reason,limiting your firing arcs. And its shields actually have a moncal-level strength even in passive mode. Since Aaf2 has superior firepower when compared to vic2,it should win in a direct face-to-face engagement,unless vic2 carries any bombers

  • @alexmargaris3238
    @alexmargaris3238 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    What about the missile launchers on the victory? Those things were pretty heavy and bypassed shields

    • @TheKillerdu18
      @TheKillerdu18 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      That was on the Victory I

    • @richardched6085
      @richardched6085 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Alex Margaris The Victory-II had less missile launch tubes than the Victory-I.

    • @TheKillerdu18
      @TheKillerdu18 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      no they get rid of it

    • @SoftisNelaris
      @SoftisNelaris 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah the Victory-1 had a boatload of missile launchers, but the Victory-II stripped them out, focusing instead of speed and the impressive array of Ion Cannons. In a straight-up fight, I'd say the Victory-1 is more versatile and slightly better, but the Victory-II wins out in almost every other scenario thanks to it's immense speed for a ship its size, and its use of Ion Cannons to heavily damage shields and disable enemy ships.

    • @valentinblue1952
      @valentinblue1952 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, to give my tea after 4 years, the shield thing isn't true. That's only the case in the Empire at War game, usually a shield blocks anything that tries to bypass it

  • @edlippincott6205
    @edlippincott6205 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Victory 2 class has always been one of my favorite ships in the star wars universe. great matchup

  • @Shuddarun
    @Shuddarun 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One thing I think you overlook in a lot of videos where there are 'fast' star destroyers with their wedge design going against slower, rebellion ships, is that yes, it may be faster but it would have to turn it's broadside to the Assault Frigate Mk.2 to move to it's flank, loosing it's efficient firing arc in the process. I do not believe that the Victory 2 can move faster in a measurement of degrees around the Assault Frigate Mk.2 then the AFMT can turn to keep facing it. TIE laser cannons will not be able to do ANYTHING against Mon Calamari shielding so I doubt the AFMT will waste more then half it's laser cannons firing at them.

  • @kennethkates3140
    @kennethkates3140 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Behemoth class battlecruiser from StarCraft vs Venator Star Destroyer. This would be fun.

  • @iain-duncan
    @iain-duncan 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad to see your sub count going up! Your videos are honestly my favorite right now! Love every one :)

  • @Eseseso494
    @Eseseso494 7 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Retribution class battleship from wh40k vs executor class Dreadnought. This got 282 likes in a previous video

    • @gups6662
      @gups6662 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      WH just murders all of SW. They'll avoid this kinda thing, if they can

    • @Eseseso494
      @Eseseso494 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not true

    • @gups6662
      @gups6662 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol, I'm just saying the scale is completely weighted in WH 40ks favor.

    • @Xero_117
      @Xero_117 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Well it really depends on calcs but Imperium of Man's navy ships all have void shields which require a stupid amount of firepower to take down and a retribution class battle ship has 4 layers each of which recharge while the battle rages on. Even if you get through the void shields you have to get through meteres of adamantium hull which can arguably take more punishment short of someone ramming the damm thing. Even then the firepower and range go to the retribution class battleship pretty hard. To top it all off there are cannon sources of ships like these fighting at.0.75c which is ridiculous. Anything short of ramming the retribution class battleship is going to hurt the executor

    • @gups6662
      @gups6662 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Warhammer is a lot of fun to read, but they've a lot of fun making insanely powerful vessels. And it stays way more structured than SW, so it can't be blown off the way the Legends stats can.
      Tanith 1st and only!

  • @Amadeo790
    @Amadeo790 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    for some reason, the toy version/ table top version contradicts you (in description) about the MK2's speed "this ship constantly surprised imperials with its speed". I kind of see a LOT of this at work.

  • @BlueGlowingLight4
    @BlueGlowingLight4 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think you got this one wrong, as you stated the Victory was Faster and Larger than the assault Frigate, this does not lend itself to being more maneuverable. The Assault frigate unless disabled somewhat would be able to turn and keep it's guns bearing on target.

  • @TheLordofDarkness1995
    @TheLordofDarkness1995 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Bellator Class Star Dreadnaught vs. Mandator-III Class Star Dreadnaught.

  • @paulsnell534
    @paulsnell534 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Eckhart I agree with your analysis but I so love the look of the Assault frigate mk2 definitely one of the most amazing looking ships in Star Wars

    • @EckhartsLadder
      @EckhartsLadder  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Paul Snell agreed!

    • @paulsnell534
      @paulsnell534 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      EckhartsLadder even though it has no carrier bays. It probably like other rebel ships could support a fighter wing

  • @kennethkates3140
    @kennethkates3140 7 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Rogue Squadron vs Inferno Squadron

    • @eclipse8663
      @eclipse8663 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Kenneth Kates When for Rouge Squadron, what time? They had many different pilots over it's time.

    • @kennethkates3140
      @kennethkates3140 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Battle of Endor, Wedge as commander.

    • @clpfox470
      @clpfox470 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      thats barely a fight lol, wedge for the win

    • @jasoncansler7989
      @jasoncansler7989 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Wedge is the best starfighter pilot in the Rebellion aside for Luke. He'd demolish them.

    • @mowinman33
      @mowinman33 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You obviously haven't read the new Inferno Squad book. In equal fighters it would be a very close match. Iden Versio is one hell of a pilot herself.

  • @lieutenantnomad9198
    @lieutenantnomad9198 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    *1.* T-70 X-Wing VS E-Wing
    *2.* Aclemator Class Assult Ship VS Nebulon B Frigate
    *3.* Tie Defender VS Tie Silencer
    *4.* MC85 VS MC90

    • @folfielukather8083
      @folfielukather8083 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lieutenant Nomad play empire at war, you can find out that way

  • @vridiantoast7096
    @vridiantoast7096 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, SVM is a nice touch. His channel was my first into into the EAW community. I'm glad you introduced an early member of this Community, one who was around at least 4 years ago!
    Also, my reply is an idea for your next Video.

    • @vridiantoast7096
      @vridiantoast7096 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, I was thinking on a Video pitting the two main Jedi star fighters, the Delta-7/B and the ETA-2.
      I've already got some points thought up, so bear with me on this.
      First off, from sources including the Legends continuity, the 7/B could split the star fighter in two, with the Astromech controlling one end and the pilot controlling another, although it is never seen. This might be negated be the ETA-2's weapon capabilities, but I am unsure.

  • @fireblazermidnightgaming7897
    @fireblazermidnightgaming7897 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Thrawn's seventh fleet and the usual ground forces in each of the ships plus Vader's 501st and walkers vs the us, Russia, and china's full military might (including overseas). The only restriction that I am suggesting is that Thrawn is included in this battle, and that the ships can only be as high as 25000 to 35000 feet up. Let me know what you guys think, after seeing the amazing video he did on the ISD II vs the USA, this idea popped into my head. Eckhartsladder, if you wish, I can leave a detailed description of Thrawn's seventh fleet. Just let me know.

    • @plokoon560
      @plokoon560 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Um, wouldn't the missiles of those three nation be enough to win the air battle? And more so, the ground forces of the empire are too small, and would be easily overwhelmed with numbers, not to mention firepower, and that's assuming that they even have any idea of where to strike or how to fight what we have. And BTW, hello, little Ahsoka :)

    • @fireblazermidnightgaming7897
      @fireblazermidnightgaming7897 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello Master Plo :) Have to say though, I'm accounting for those 3 nations' massive ground armies vs the around 10K stormtroopers that a single ISD tends to have on board, x6 with thrawn's 7th fleet. And I don't know what the interdictors will hold, along with the arquitens cruisers.

    • @diamondman307_
      @diamondman307_ 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ahsoka, Anakin has the dark side. Tell Yoda.

    • @flyboymb
      @flyboymb 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're still talking about MAYBE 100,000 vs. an army of millions. Stormtroopers aren't super soldiers. They go down quite readily to being hit by rigid sticks. While that many ISDs floating around might tip the victory to the Empire over just one, the ground battle still goes to Earth.

    • @Zappina
      @Zappina 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nope it did not. Those soldiers would have air support and the ISD make air superiority over the areas with Tie fighter squadrons while the Tie bombers can destroy enemy fortifications and military units. If a stormtrooper squad is in trouble the ISD can make orbital bombardment on any ground troops or strategic locations like armories, tank depots, airstrips, baracks and forts. An ISD can also use its batteries to hunt down subsonic missiles and airplanes the ties missed. Overall, with such support the stormtroopers (with their shitty aims) can win any ground battle. Even if they loose(or areas they dont deemed necessary to conquer) the Empire simply vaporize the area with barrage of turbolaser fire.
      Result: Empire win, humans eradicated.

  • @Louthanjen
    @Louthanjen 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Z-95 headhunter as it was during the clones Wars vs the x-wing

    • @AdoringFan000
      @AdoringFan000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mic Clank many people already said this before me, but ill repeat. I hope this wont get picked because the x wing is a straight upgrade to the z 95

    • @fleetusodinforgod1879
      @fleetusodinforgod1879 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      the x-wing was just a newer Z-95 so i think the x-wing would win

    • @reverse-flash9769
      @reverse-flash9769 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mic Clank I like that idea

    • @richardched6085
      @richardched6085 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      AdoringFan000 The X-Wing is an upgraded version of the AF4 Z-95. The Clone Wars Z-85 seemed to be VERY fast compared to the AF4 Z-95 and seems to be on par with the X-Wing. I refer to the Clone Z-95 as the Z-85 because the Episode guide initially called it the Z-85

  • @fleetusodinforgod1879
    @fleetusodinforgod1879 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i luv you Eckharts

  • @russellanderson9880
    @russellanderson9880 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Home one Vs vagyr battle cruiser from homeworks 2. Awesome channel, keep up the great work!

  • @Funkography
    @Funkography 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Recusant Class Light Destroyer vs Assualt Frigate.
    Been requesting this matchup for months haha.

  • @PetersaberHD
    @PetersaberHD 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only places where we can compare speed and agility of these two ships is Empire at War RTS and Star Wars Armada tabletop. In both, the Frigate is faster, and much more maneouverable. It doesn't take much to bypass the powerful front firing arc of the VSD, and get him from behind.

  • @admiralthrawnbar4899
    @admiralthrawnbar4899 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The assault frigate my was a refit of the dreadnought cruiser. However the mk2 had no relation to dreadnought or the mk1. It was only called the mk2 because of convince for the creators of empire at war. (Great game, highly recommended)

  • @supersloth2259
    @supersloth2259 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that the Assault Frigate MK II is more valuable in a fleet. It's power relies on its ability to get in the enemies faces and just stick around there for a while and do damage. It has very advanced shielding and plenty of guns on either side to target multiple ships, so a group of Assault Frigate MKIIs would most likely be able to tank enough initial damage to maneuver around a similarly sized group of Victory IIs and come out on top with maybe a couple losses.

  • @vadergator2905
    @vadergator2905 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been subscribed for a few weeks and I think these videos are really cool so keep it up!!!

  • @BeBetter22992
    @BeBetter22992 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    CCS battlecruiser vs Venator Star destroyer

  • @juancruzmarolda7726
    @juancruzmarolda7726 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mandator 2 dreadnaught vs the Malevolence (the best of the republic vs the best of the CIS)

  • @kennethkates3140
    @kennethkates3140 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2-M Saber class Repulsor Tank vs Armored Assault Tank. I'm gonna keep trying.

  • @iaintnofish4465
    @iaintnofish4465 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    aclaimator vs munificent class star frigate

  • @marsm9
    @marsm9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd love to see you and Space Dock do a collab. You're both fairly thoughtful and very indepth with/about the info.

    • @EckhartsLadder
      @EckhartsLadder  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +marsm9 I'd be down

    • @marsm9
      @marsm9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I posted a message to him. Hope this works out!

  • @Shirou_Atsuya_Fubuki
    @Shirou_Atsuya_Fubuki 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A single Victory II class vs the three carrier from Captian America The Winter soldrer( project insight )

    • @a.morphous66
      @a.morphous66 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We don’t have any information on the helicarriers’ armament, crew capacity, or speed. And they have no shields, so one turbolaser blast to the engines = goodbye helicarrier.

    • @mtaenthusiast1345
      @mtaenthusiast1345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1 proton torpedo = 💥 boom

  • @Dalipsingh111111
    @Dalipsingh111111 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    EckhartsLadder, nice video, but you forgot to mention that the Victory 2 got very much Missile-Launchers. It was actually one of its specialitys.

  • @iaintnofish4465
    @iaintnofish4465 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    nebula class star destroyer vs mc 90

  • @lukegorst2913
    @lukegorst2913 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    covenant cruiser vs imperial 2 star destroyer

    • @alexiel4406
      @alexiel4406 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      what cruiser

    • @MilkyH12
      @MilkyH12 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Luke Gorst Rip this guy getting his suggestion before I did :(

    • @lukegorst2913
      @lukegorst2913 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      the CCS Class

    • @lukegorst2913
      @lukegorst2913 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      i would of chosen the RCS but i think the CCS is better

    • @lukegorst2913
      @lukegorst2913 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      i would of said RCS but the CCS is better i think

  • @Mikey-xz4vn
    @Mikey-xz4vn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Steangely, in EAW i always found the Assault Frigate to come out on top versus Victory cruisers provided the fightsrs were out of the equation

  • @SS-2178
    @SS-2178 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Here are a few ideas I have:
    1. Republic ARC-170 vs UNSC Saber fighter
    2. Eclipse imperial dreadnought vs Covenant Dreadnought
    3. Republic veniter(?) class cruiser vs UNSC Spirit of Fire
    4. Star Wars AT-RT scout walker vs UNSC Mantis
    5. Youzhanvong(?) vs Halo flood
    6. Death Star vs UNSC fleet
    7. AT-RT vs Sickle anti-riot vehicle (command and conquer series)
    8. (Halo) Elite honor guard vs imperial honor gaurds

  • @cynemund8213
    @cynemund8213 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kandosii Dreadnought vs Centurion Battlecruiser

  • @floridamangaming2453
    @floridamangaming2453 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Twintail v TIE defender

  • @theevildrummingsithlord1492
    @theevildrummingsithlord1492 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Keldabe class battleship vs Victory 2 class star destroyer; Darth Marr vs Satele Shan or Marr vs Malgus; Top 5 Mandalorians (Legends). Which one do y'all choose?

    • @Zappina
      @Zappina 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Keldabe can hold against Imperial class star destroyers so the comparison is not really fair. Darth Marr in my opinion can clearly defeat Shan also he can defeat Malgus i think. Mandalorians?....Ordo is pretty cool although Boba is more of my favorite. Vizla is too softie.

    • @theevildrummingsithlord1492
      @theevildrummingsithlord1492 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oops...I think I forgot the shield leecher device...Maybe Chimeara (however u spell it) vs. Anakin Solo

    • @leelambert1559
      @leelambert1559 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keldabe wins, no contest. The Keldabe was a capital ship specialized in defeating smaller craft. Though I do feel that it will have issues with the victory’s bombers, I don’t think that will turn the tide. I give it to the Keldabe, 8.75 times out of 10.

    • @theevildrummingsithlord1492
      @theevildrummingsithlord1492 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leelambert1559 Wow, I never thought someone would find my question again. (which I forgot about) Thanks for answering it!

  • @elijahsellers3727
    @elijahsellers3727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I vote the Victory II. Also, the Victory-class vessels were known for strong hull armor.

  • @Deckrex
    @Deckrex 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The clone edition if z95headhunter vs the stock public model used be rebles and from legends z95 headhunter

  • @marduk1734
    @marduk1734 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have no idea why empire didn't just spam Victory in movies. in legends there was a fleet full of those star destroyers and it was pucking effective. if the Victory II fires all it's cannon at 1 point, the amount of damage could wreck most of Mon calamari shit. and if 2 Victory II fire at 1 point, even the Home One will be wrecked in mouth.

    • @bastardofinfamy7265
      @bastardofinfamy7265 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Eli Smirnov the empire could by like tens of thousands of victory ll with the death stars money

    • @ВасилийДанилов-у8я
      @ВасилийДанилов-у8я 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eli Smirnov I believe the original victory was way too specialised to be turned into the effective multirole ship. It could either be refitted into the battleship(vic2),planetary siege ship(vic1) or carrier(none existed,but I believe empire could do that,like the NR built Endurance out of Nebula).This would have been effective in an event of a full-scale war,but the empire had to focus on controlling its territory,which ISD did better due to its versatility(compared to vsd)

    • @artificernathaniel3287
      @artificernathaniel3287 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eli Smirnov the later imperial class star destroyer ships had more firepower and a larger fighter wing with bombers too. I think it took like 4-5 victories to beat an imperial II class

    • @joshbull623
      @joshbull623 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both the Victory I and Victory II had almost no fighter defensive measures. The Victory I was also noted to be quite slow. So any competent opponent would not be sending Mon Calamari ships at a fleet of Victory Star Destroyers or any escort to capital ship for that matter, but instead using ambush, hit and run, and/or blitzkrieg tactics send many squadrons of powerful star fighters and obliterate that fleet with probably minimal losses. Considering Victory's were 50,000,000+ and some of the best star fighters & bombers were 250,000(X-wing, A-wing, B-wing, Y-Wing, K-wing) or less, it would not be tactically nor financially effective to mass produce a ship like the Victory.

  • @luke9363
    @luke9363 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally! I suggested this so many times! Thank you!

  • @weeerazer3099
    @weeerazer3099 7 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    The Flood vs. Star Wars Galaxy.

    • @Slobbynobby
      @Slobbynobby 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Master Chief Petty Officer John-117 the flood with sheer number would overwhelm the star wars galaxy but u have to state which era

    • @yeaiamtrill
      @yeaiamtrill 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Master Chief Petty Officer John-117 the flood by far it can infect machines ai and organisms

    • @nicholascoker7212
      @nicholascoker7212 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      flood all the way

    • @theimmortalsuperbeing549
      @theimmortalsuperbeing549 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Nicholas Coker Even against the Yuuzhan Vong ?

    • @bastardofinfamy7265
      @bastardofinfamy7265 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which stage like first flood infection form or like gravemind kind of stage

  • @jaylynabrams9564
    @jaylynabrams9564 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do the Harrower Class Dreadnought vs Victory Class Star destroyer. I find this interesting because i watched a video by BOOFIRE191 explaining that SWTOR had technology equal or greater than the movies.

  • @r3nam3dgamer7
    @r3nam3dgamer7 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what I look forward to on TH-cam everyday lol

  • @benjaminmichels5953
    @benjaminmichels5953 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey EckhartsLadder :) first of all i am a realy big fan of this series and i have an idea for a good match up:)
    Katana Fleet (200 modifyed heavy Dreatnought Cruisers) vs Imperial Fleet (maybe the fleet they send to the battle of Endor)
    PS: sorry for my bad english :)

  • @brendanreimer3636
    @brendanreimer3636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Assault Frigate would just need to place two perfect shots against the Victory’s shield generators and there would have been a small rebel fighter escort because even though the Assault Frigate didn’t have hangar space, it would have had fighter escort anyway, so the Tie’s wouldn’t have been that much of a threat

  • @playboipatrick
    @playboipatrick 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I give up on trying to suggest providence vs mc 80 Maria so if this suggestion ever gets uploaded remember I commented that on the first video of this series so yaaaa

    • @EckhartsLadder
      @EckhartsLadder  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Don'tTry thanks! Sorry it's just impossible to do all.

  • @MissionReloadedGaming
    @MissionReloadedGaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey so what are the flappy bits for on the victory ii if they removed the missile tubes? Launch bays? But then it would have more fighters than the victory I. From the pictures from the hi res looks like hangars with launch rails or tubes for missiles still.which for being a deep space engagement ship would be wonderful. But if they removed them what did it get as replacement? Other than engines?

    • @MissionReloadedGaming
      @MissionReloadedGaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok I figured them out, they are the viens for flight whithin a planet. I'm also thinking they are where those 80 some odd concussion missiles are located. That seems like alot of fire power to just discard. Sounds like fighters would have no fun assaulting something pummeling them with missiles. Or even other cap ships with that magnatude of explosives

  • @ShockLegionLeader
    @ShockLegionLeader 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Avatar-Class Titan vs. Eclipse-Class SSD

  • @Raccoonik
    @Raccoonik 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whooo!
    SuperVaderMan Cameo
    love that guy. He and Eckharts, are my favorite starwars youtubers right now

  • @antoinehall3390
    @antoinehall3390 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Allegiance-class battlecruiser vs Praetor Mark II-class battlecruiser

  • @christiannipales9937
    @christiannipales9937 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes! 2 ships of even class! Perfect match up.

  • @austinpost6870
    @austinpost6870 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    A Republic venator vs. a mon calamari mc80.
    Two versatile warships that can deploy a good amount of fighters that rely on quality rather than quantity.

  • @phelmet9344
    @phelmet9344 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:58 that art if my home screen!

  • @0872puma
    @0872puma 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Halo super mac with a few frigate escorts or cruisers vs super star destroyer

  • @lord6617
    @lord6617 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Assault Frigate was also in the Star Wars Rebellion video game - the 4x game, basically total war in space

  • @galbert117
    @galbert117 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BC-304 Odyssey (From Stargate, Post-Unending, Pre-Ark of Truth, meaning no ZPM) vs Imperial-II Star Destroyer

  • @joewalls1000
    @joewalls1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you verse the millennium falcon against Darth Vaders tie advanced

  • @battlefieldcustoms873
    @battlefieldcustoms873 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone 3D printed one for X wing in that picture Eck showed, but no one has ever really shown it. I may build one and use one in a tabletop game because I love tactics so much I want to play out whole battles on a tabletop

  • @espinoth9913
    @espinoth9913 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't know that the Assault Frigates were based on the Dreadnought-class. I wonder how powerful a fleet of them the size of the Katana Fleet slaved together would be...?

  • @paulsnell534
    @paulsnell534 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    +Eckhart's ladder I would argue that as an intangible even though many larger rebel ships don't have hanger bays they tend to be capable of supporting fighter wings via hatches. Rebel starfighters you'll agree outclass Imperial fighters on average

  • @juancruzmarolda7726
    @juancruzmarolda7726 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TIE fighter vs v-wing
    TIE fighter vs Delta-7 interceptor
    Delta-7 interceptor vs v-wing
    TIE bomber vs BTL-A4 (clone wars y-wing)
    Either arquitence crusier vs consular class frigate
    Arquitence class light crusier vs arquitence class command crusier
    AT-AT vs A6 juggernaut

  • @Charlie94781
    @Charlie94781 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Victory Class would win

    • @davidhansen5574
      @davidhansen5574 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      agreed, it is made for anti-cap warfare. it's the only one of the ships with heavy turbolasers and Ioncannons + fighters

  • @dakotaunderhill8866
    @dakotaunderhill8866 7 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Republic vs covonent

    • @theimmortalsuperbeing549
      @theimmortalsuperbeing549 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh that sounds fun.

    • @lukegorst2913
      @lukegorst2913 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      he has already done a video on that but with the first order

    • @lukegorst2913
      @lukegorst2913 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the republic is no match for the covenant. the republic will fall

    • @grahamhill676
      @grahamhill676 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Luke Gorst The Empire would be a different story however. Republic were weak as compared.

    • @lukegorst2913
      @lukegorst2913 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      i agree

  • @lookoutlegolas
    @lookoutlegolas 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Halo vs Star Wars:
    STAP vs Ghost
    ARC-170 vs Sabre/Seraph
    Providence class vs ORS Cruiser
    LAAT/i vs Phantom gunboat
    AT-ST vs Locust
    Star Trek vs Star Wars:
    Danube Runabout/Delta Flyer II vs Millenium Falcon
    Defiant vs Victory-class SD
    Scimitar vs Chimera (Thrawn's ship)
    D'Deridex vs ISD2

  • @lordhylia5745
    @lordhylia5745 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, if you want more universes to pit star wars ship against, how about the Macross universe ships?
    some match ups I can think of
    1. Northampton class Frigate (2059 configuration) vs. Nebulon B Frigate
    2. Ton-Falk class Escort carrier or Quasar fire class carrier vs. Guantánamo Class Stealth Space Carrier
    3. Gozanti-class cruiser vs. Sentinel Class stealth Carrier
    the differences between the fighters makes it a little hard to figure what to match up with what XP maybe VF-1 versus TIE/LN? and or X-wing?

  • @simplyepic1732
    @simplyepic1732 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree the VSD will win but not with its advanced speed. Relative to a capital ships, the VSD has a respectable level of shielding and compared to the frigate it would simply stand is ground and completely destroy the rebel ship. It's fighters are another minor advantage just reinforcing it's dominance. I played Empire at War many times and the power to shields ability is merely a game mechanic and so shouldn't really be counted in the match-up. I think a difference of opinion is fine though and I still love your star wars match ups (when there with just star wars ships). Great work recently

  • @SilviiSilvester
    @SilviiSilvester 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    make the Death star, the Executor, 17 Star Destoyers II vs. 8 mc 80 liberty class and a bunch of frigattes!
    Get it?

  • @lightspeedvictory
    @lightspeedvictory 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just because a ship has a wedge shape, doesn't mean that they take advantage of it. A great example is the Imperial and Imperial II class Star Destroyers. If u look at the placement of their weapons, u'll notice that they're configured for broadsides rather than forward firing. U have to take a close look at each class's weapon emplacement mountings to determine whether or not they can all fire forward at the same time

  • @r3nam3dgamer7
    @r3nam3dgamer7 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video again I saw this 48 min ago but thought it was yesterday's video lol

  • @FirstPassOfficial
    @FirstPassOfficial 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Centurion class Battlecruiser vs Harrower class Dreadnaught

    • @richardched6085
      @richardched6085 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      carbonjvd Revan's Kuat designed Ships... Were amazing during the Mandalorian Wars.

  • @caseymyers2210
    @caseymyers2210 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about a belletor vs. a resurgence? Although the belletor is bigger the resurgence the resurgence is more advanced due to its late appearance. Both are built on speed and are of the battle cruiser types. Just a thought but it would be cool to look through

  • @samuelcoates7601
    @samuelcoates7601 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pride of the core vs malevelonce

  • @Ragnarok6664
    @Ragnarok6664 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like Victory class SD:s would’ve been nice to see more of them

  • @PeterTheGamer1
    @PeterTheGamer1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The guy suggested Saber Tank vs T4B... I personally really want to see that

  • @artificernathaniel3287
    @artificernathaniel3287 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its funny, in the tabletop game (starwars armada) the assault frigate mrk 2 (one of the staple rebel ships) usually comes out on top with most engagements. It has superior speed, which it uses in conjuction with the superior shields to tank the damage from the front of a victory 2 untill it can reach the flanks. There the victory loses most of its firepower as it only has turrets, no turbolaser batteries and few ioncannons, while half of the assult frigates guns are on the broadside. If one side of the AF mrk2 is getting chewed up, it can rotate and expose a fresh side, while using the superior speed to stick like glue and wither away the side of the victory. And if it gets behind the victory, its not a fair fight. Yes i agree if the AF mrk 2 cannot move itself away from the front of the victory 2 and close the distance between them, it dies, but i think you underestimate the speed advantage of the AF2 here.

  • @xmh3fx
    @xmh3fx 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    A interesting fight would be a fight between a Raider class corvette and a CR90 class corvette

  • @najee_eee
    @najee_eee 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the voting before you say who you think would win more than the old system

  • @najee_eee
    @najee_eee 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to see the u-wing vs the x,y,b- wings or any of the rebel Alliance fighters vs each other or u-wing (maybe b-wing) vs the falcon

  • @TheFlexluke
    @TheFlexluke 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey eckhartsladder big fan of the channel and I know I'm probably alittle late to get mine picked but I think it would be kinda cool to hear how much of the empires forces it would take to beat human forces as a united planet

  • @davvader
    @davvader 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    like 4 times I heared "non-calamari shields" then I realised you were saying mon calamari shields XD

  • @darthvader8164
    @darthvader8164 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It kinda makes sense that the Victory only had about 20 starfighters. Their job is to be the battlecruiser of the Republic navy. If the Jedi need starfighters in battle, they can send their Venators, which have waaay too many of them.

  • @bradeki2997
    @bradeki2997 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As you said, the 24 fighters probably won't do that much damage. Baseline TIEs are just really underwhelming ships, and mon cala shields are incredibly durable. So rather than waste shots trying to take them down, I would probably focus 100% of my firepower (or at least everything that has los) on the victory until it's disabled, only prioritizing smaller craft if they're bombers. The weapons without los could probably thin out the handful of gnats fairly effectively without taking anything away from the real threat. That won't do anything to help where the weapons are placed, or the lack of fighter support, and I still think the victory will win more often than not. It's just a very difficult match-up for the alliance, where one of the empire's biggest weaknesses isn't exploited.

  • @gangsta74110
    @gangsta74110 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have forget a major point !
    You've forgot to mention Victory's missiles launcher, which are incredibly powerful and pretty numerous

  • @slfjdnnsjfjfdjhdheudbdj9386
    @slfjdnnsjfjfdjhdheudbdj9386 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this background music

  • @StephensRambleZone
    @StephensRambleZone 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do the MC-80 Home One type vs. the Mandator I (or II) Star Dreadnought

  • @Sin526
    @Sin526 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I was a Pirate Captain (preferably Mandalorian), my goal would be to "acquire" a Victory II, heavily modify it (including adding an anti-starfighter pds), paint it black, and use it as my personal flagship!

  • @monusbrewer4911
    @monusbrewer4911 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Starting about 6:45 in the video you show a game and label it super Vader man. Can you or someone tell me the name of that game it looks cool!
    I am not a big modern gamer but like the older C&C style games.
    Have a great day, love these videos!

  • @samwhary5498
    @samwhary5498 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This battle can be done in empire at war

  • @meh3277
    @meh3277 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Republic Venator (with SPMA laser) vs Stargate Tau'ri Bc-304 Battlecruiser (with asgard beams)

  • @Kinetic_Animations
    @Kinetic_Animations 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know that you have not done these for a while... But can you do a Gladiator-class Star Destroyer versus something?! :) Or the canon version of the Quasar Fire-class Light Carrier?? Or those two against each other??? :) :)

  • @xenodrayton5570
    @xenodrayton5570 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Attempt 6
    A-Wing Vs Space Battleship Yamato Cosmos Fighter