Huh... and here I was thinking Zenith had those rear rivets there on purpose to "LOCK" the seat back in the upright position. :-) It accomplishes that very task actually. But I guess over time... one will end up being sacrificial.
Looking great Mark! It has been so cold here in Michigan I don’t want to work on anything in my garage even with a heater. That’s cool you found an upholsterer not far from home, thanks for keeping it local! Have you decided on an engine yet? It won’t be long and you will be needing it! I am enjoying your build videos.
The new parts are looking good. It's always good to clean up the space you're working in. Hope you can still find the things you need now that they're in their new location.
You said this paint scheme is Army ?... Army greenish leather seats ?.... Hmmmm.... NICE job , wish I could build one too. Thanks for the Video this morning.
Yes it is ARMY green with a white tail. Seats will be brown leather. Check out my Kitplane Enthusiast Facebook page to see the paint scheme. facebook.com/kitplaneenthusiast
I guess I’m #8 Mark, great way to start my day with Java in hand, love your style of work, so meticulous! Counting the days till I get my SD too! Your stage now in this video is where I start cuz I’m doing gear and slats retract. I’ll share my draft build drawings with you at a later date, I’m learning Upshape from Solidworks to animate the swinging of the gear. Beringer Aero is supportive with the brakes hardware, but a lot of fabrication to trial and make work.
Paint is turning out to be a major hassle. I can't find anyone who can give me an answer on what kind of paint to use if I want a flat or satin (semi-gloss) finish. Polyfiber is sending me a sample Army green (actually called Oak Green) of their Poly-Tone so I'm hoping that will work.
@@KitplaneEnthusiast I am sticking with the Hot Rod Flatz. It seems to be of good quality. I will be getting ready to spray the interior in about a week or 2. The black on my gear came out more satin than black, but I think that was my fault, I didn't mix it as well as they wanted.
Looking great! Have you considered getting one of those inflatable paint booths? I’ve made a smaller version with pvc and plastic sheeting, and using fans with filters to put it under positive pressure made for zero dust or nibs in the paint.
So. You got the free screws from the air guard unit hu? Based on the $25 hundred dollar hammers and $90 thousand dollar toilet each one of those screws probably cost the taxpayers $30. A piece. I now own a little of your plane so when we meet in Mexico at the zenith factory I expect a free ride. Love the videos as usual.
Now this is just me, but I would have drilled close tolerance holes and used countersunk Hi-Loks or Hi-Lites on the seat back mountings. On another note, post up the Nutplate part numbers you're using and I send you a Nutplate Drill tool. Much better, safer, easier, and faster than using the actual part.
Hey Mark! Couple of questions ( as usual ) why not just use the flush rivets on the seat brackets and second , how often do you use your metal brake. , Drill press and\or band saw while building either Zenith? I'm still gathering and organizing my garage\shop and debating on whether or not to purchase these or get by with hand and air tools. Also , could you quickly touch on your decision regarding the sliding seat option , there's some discussion on the subject in some of the forums? And Thanks again for your time! Blue Skies!
The plans call for steel rivets, and the steel ones are not flush rivets. That's why I'm using the flush screws. Someone else commented that I could probably just put a nylon washer on the pin that's welded to the seat back and I wouldn't even have to countersink anything. Unfortunately, I think he's right LOL. I probably did it the hard way. I don't use the brake too often, but when I need it, it is nice to have. Len has also used it a number of times on his Velocity. I use the drill press and band saw a lot. I'll talk about the seats in an upcoming video.
Hey Mark. I come from the boat building world. Just watching all your videos for fun. Maybe I’ll get to build an airplane someday! One question. When doing flush solid rivets, sometimes you use a dimple tool and sometimes you use an aerospace countersink tool. Is there a reasoning for this?
Mark, doesn't the place you get your powder coating require a minimum amount or do they do piecemeal whatever you bring them? How much do they charge you for powder coat per item or sq feet of material?
No-the place I go for powder coating (H&H in Fenton, MI) is awesome. They do thousands of auto parts everyday. So when I need something, I just drop it off and they add it to the rack. They always have the parts ready in about 4-5 days and I don't even ask "how much". They have very reasonable prices. All of the seat parts were only $40.
Huh... and here I was thinking Zenith had those rear rivets there on purpose to "LOCK" the seat back in the upright position. :-) It accomplishes that very task actually. But I guess over time... one will end up being sacrificial.
Looking great Mark! It has been so cold here in Michigan I don’t want to work on anything in my garage even with a heater. That’s cool you found an upholsterer not far from home, thanks for keeping it local! Have you decided on an engine yet? It won’t be long and you will be needing it! I am enjoying your build videos.
It will be the Titan or the Lycoming.
I vote for the Lycoming Thunderbolt
Thanks for the reply Mark, that's cheep and well worth it.
The new parts are looking good. It's always good to clean up the space you're working in. Hope you can still find the things you need now that they're in their new location.
Thanks for the video realy awsome
Looking AWESOME 👍🏻🤠
Looking great Mark!
Such nice work!
You said this paint scheme is Army ?... Army greenish leather seats ?.... Hmmmm.... NICE job , wish I could build one too.
Thanks for the Video this morning.
Yes it is ARMY green with a white tail. Seats will be brown leather. Check out my Kitplane Enthusiast Facebook page to see the paint scheme. facebook.com/kitplaneenthusiast
You can use a nylon spacer washer and then you can use the recomenses rivets
LOL ya that would have been much simpler!
A thin shim might still be a good idea to keep a little space between bars
I guess I’m #8 Mark, great way to start my day with Java in hand, love your style of work, so meticulous!
Counting the days till I get my SD too! Your stage now in this video is where I start cuz I’m doing gear and slats retract. I’ll share my draft build drawings with you at a later date, I’m learning Upshape from Solidworks to animate the swinging of the gear. Beringer Aero is supportive with the brakes hardware, but a lot of fabrication to trial and make work.
Keep me posted as I'd like to follow your build!
Maybe Adding lighting holes in seat could save some weight
Looking really nice. Looking forward to the next video... Let us know what your thoughts on the paint.
Paint is turning out to be a major hassle. I can't find anyone who can give me an answer on what kind of paint to use if I want a flat or satin (semi-gloss) finish. Polyfiber is sending me a sample Army green (actually called Oak Green) of their Poly-Tone so I'm hoping that will work.
@@KitplaneEnthusiast I am sticking with the Hot Rod Flatz. It seems to be of good quality. I will be getting ready to spray the interior in about a week or 2. The black on my gear came out more satin than black, but I think that was my fault, I didn't mix it as well as they wanted.
Very important question. At what point in build can u sit in cockpit and make engine noises. Great job so far. Great content and videography.
Looks like Brian, Glassairguy, won the rock-paper-scissors, to be in the shot! #wheresgordan
Looking great! Have you considered getting one of those inflatable paint booths? I’ve made a smaller version with pvc and plastic sheeting, and using fans with filters to put it under positive pressure made for zero dust or nibs in the paint.
So. You got the free screws from the air guard unit hu? Based on the $25 hundred dollar hammers and $90 thousand dollar toilet each one of those screws probably cost the taxpayers $30. A piece. I now own a little of your plane so when we meet in Mexico at the zenith factory I expect a free ride. Love the videos as usual.
Funny thing .....I was thinking the same thing.
Why wait until the Mexico fly-in? Come to Michigan and let's fly!
I'm sure those are the ones he bought at the DRMO sale. ;)
@@Know-Way Yes! That’s what I meant!
They call them trwing
Now this is just me, but I would have drilled close tolerance holes and used countersunk Hi-Loks or Hi-Lites on the seat back mountings. On another note, post up the Nutplate part numbers you're using and I send you a Nutplate Drill tool. Much better, safer, easier, and faster than using the actual part.
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This shop is huge. How much does a house like this in Michigan cost???
Mark, why aren't you going to use the seat adjuster slides from Zenith?
You may have said before, but I don't remember, what engine are you going with?
Hey Mark! Couple of questions ( as usual ) why not just use the flush rivets on the seat brackets and second , how often do you use your metal brake. , Drill press and\or band saw while building either Zenith? I'm still gathering and organizing my garage\shop and debating on whether or not to purchase these or get by with hand and air tools. Also , could you quickly touch on your decision regarding the sliding seat option , there's some discussion on the subject in some of the forums? And Thanks again for your time! Blue Skies!
The plans call for steel rivets, and the steel ones are not flush rivets. That's why I'm using the flush screws. Someone else commented that I could probably just put a nylon washer on the pin that's welded to the seat back and I wouldn't even have to countersink anything. Unfortunately, I think he's right LOL. I probably did it the hard way. I don't use the brake too often, but when I need it, it is nice to have. Len has also used it a number of times on his Velocity. I use the drill press and band saw a lot. I'll talk about the seats in an upcoming video.
@@KitplaneEnthusiast thanks!
Hey Mark. I come from the boat building world. Just watching all your videos for fun. Maybe I’ll get to build an airplane someday! One question. When doing flush solid rivets, sometimes you use a dimple tool and sometimes you use an aerospace countersink tool. Is there a reasoning for this?
Dimples are only possible in thin metal. If the aluminum is thicker it requires countersinking.
Have you mentioned what engine you are planning to use?
Titan or Lycoming
Mark, doesn't the place you get your powder coating require a minimum amount or do they do piecemeal whatever you bring them? How much do they charge you for powder coat per item or sq feet of material?
No-the place I go for powder coating (H&H in Fenton, MI) is awesome. They do thousands of auto parts everyday. So when I need something, I just drop it off and they add it to the rack. They always have the parts ready in about 4-5 days and I don't even ask "how much". They have very reasonable prices. All of the seat parts were only $40.
Mark, do you use "MEK" or "Acetone" to clean your parts ready for prime? Which do you prefer and why?
I don't think it really matters. I scuff the parts and then clean them with alcohol.
What’s the make/model of that right angle drill?
See my Kitplane Enthusiast Facebook page for info: facebook.com/kitplaneenthusiast
@@KitplaneEnthusiast thanks!
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Always good video so no need to wait!👍🏻
Could not hear your narrative comments, just the music followed by silence when you were speaking.
OK thanks for the feedback. I try to lower the volume of the music when I talk but maybe it didn't work so well here.
@@KitplaneEnthusiast I played your video again today and your narrative was back, it must have been my headset connection. Sorry for the trouble. Phil