How to Install Tongue and Groove Boards
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Glad to see you're getting after it.
Any good ideas for doing this solo Spencer?
Good video, as a carpenter,the only think I would do is ,start with the grove a ,and nail the tongue,(in Scotland we call it secret nailing,)then when you get to the end board it's easier to finish,the last board we just cut the BACK of the grove of ,so that it fits over the tongue,and you don't struggle , getting it in,(hope this makes sense to you),,🏴🏴
@@chrismclaren6592 I believe I understand what you're saying. My main concern is the 20' lengths. Thanks for the tip.
@@thadh4085 Scaffolding.
@@thadh4085 make a story pole and see how wide your first board will be so that your boards on each end are close to the same size. Maybe try using something like the zip wall poles has to hold up one end and middle of the piece if you can find a tool like that. Obviously you can’t always use it since not all ceilings are flat.
Or if you butt t@g to a beam, highly recommended starting top to bottom tongue down
Really glad she hired you!! You’re gonna get a lot of great content from this job!!
Good video. I just installed 1100sqft of t&g solid hickory. Half barrel vaulted. Blind nailed. Looks amazing
Oh wow! So glad you’re doing Kira’s! I’m always amazed by your measuring skills. That’s beautiful!
Absolutely Love the work you do. The pride i see behind your work makes all the difference in the end result. Good stuff 👍🏼👍🏼
I love that you care about your work. it show on the work you do , it’s so beautiful 👍
Glad to see you on this job, Richard. I am excited for this series of videos.
Keith from Jersey
I love learning new tips and tricks from the channel, but to be honest even if I don’t learn anything I just love watching the work come together. Lol nice 👍
Ceiling looks great. All the plywood is smart so you can nail anywhere.
I admire your relaxed, chill, demeanor. I often feel tension ..I’m pushing, pushing, trying to make good time and hold to my estimated timeline. There are inevitable setbacks, little problems, typical to every job and every job I do takes longer than I planned for. I don’t bid by the hour. I give a specific bottom line bid price. I can estimate matl. cost very accurately but always underestimate the number of man hours . I’ve been in biz 41 years and in the trades 46 years. Yet, I’m still too optimistic on my time frame computations....hence the tension. The upside is that I always deliver quality craftsmanship and have a long list of very satisfied customers. I think I’m usually 25% off on my time estimates. Guess I’ll just add 25% to my labor figure on the next bid. I use $65 per hour when figuring my labor cost. Anyway....congrats on your thriving business, your command of the craft, your video skills and thanks for sharing your experiences and advice. I can’t imagine being an employee. We are blessed to be independent, aren’t we? Semper Fidelis Dave Heitman Dave the Carpenter in Omaha
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: I would always overestimate my time. That way I never felt pressured with time constraints and customers are never upset when I would finish a job early. Of course, I would charge $50/ Hr. based on actual time spent to complete the project. I also enjoy watching Richard tackle these jobs. The thing is that he makes difficult projects look easy which is the true sign of talent in my opinion.
I don't mind running 8hrs over my estimated time, because I know my customers appreciate my attention to detail.
They will tell their friends and family, and I can recover most of that time, if not all on the next job I price out.
I've had 2 or 3 pissy customers since 1980.
Carpentry makes me happy, so I'd rather Donate my hours on a job to get future referrals, than Stress about it. It all works out in the wash.
" I give a specific bottom line bid price." - Unless you have clairvoyancy and x-ray vision giving a fixed price with no variations allowed leaves you in the lurch with unexpected or hidden problems (costs).
Perhaps using your standard estimate + 25% as the lower end and + 50% as the higher end of a 'fixed estimate range' to give to clients.
Glad you picked up some good work on that new construction! Keep up the grind and great videos man! Love watching them!!
Perfect timing for this video Rich. I’m gonna be installing tongue and groove white wash pine on our cathedral ceiling soon. Thanks for sharing some tips. That work hub is looking like it’s worth every penny.
Another blazing project by Richard and crew super impressed
Richard, those recessed lights can be dropped by loosening the three screws. Then they drop flush with your T&G! Nice trick. Great vid.
Totally and sometimes they need to be slightly adjusted one way or another to line up with how you run the boards. My first time doing this learned that when the lights were not a-line just right by the Electrian it’s shows up big time with all the straight lines
Firstly, this video was awesome, Richard! Great tips for cutting out around fixtures. It looks like you're liking the WindsorOne products. The first time I used it I knew it was superior. Super consistent even with it being finger jointed, and the pine they use is hard stuff.
We are so excited to be building this beautiful home! Great job, looks great!
Very good video, well explained. it is like a TV show but more relax. I like the way you take your time to explain. Great job!
Im excited for you guys to reach a million subs. These are great videos and you will get there! Just awesome!
Looks great, look forward to watching your work.
Lots of good tips in this video. I’m starting three ceilings like this on Friday and the tip about using a small pencil to trace obstructions is a good one that I’m gonna use.
The best video that I’ve seen on this! Thank you!
Probably the best explanation of how to, “why you’re doing this” and “not doing that”. Thanks for the video!
Your work station has turned out totally awesome and so professional, keep up the awesome uploads... Gazza
Man... when I watched her latest video, wished her the best & hoped that you were gonna do some work in the house & she told me you had already started I got so stoked!! Can't wait to see what direction she gives you & your 2 talents combined will make for some Stupid Dope Fresh trim work!! Hoping all is well, Dirty Jersey out!!
I just love WindsorOne products. I have been fortunate to have - before our move to Oregon - had lunch with Kurt at least twice and have developed a relationship with him.
One of my favorite things to do, tongue and groove, those notches do take time to make, great video as always
Very good instructional video! I am in the process of replacing my laundry room floor and will be able to use a lot of the knowledge shared in this video for my floor. Interesting too how you didn't conceal the nails and just went through the main part of the boards.
Just finished installing this on my own 1000 sq Ft rancher renovarion. It wasn’t easy but like you demonstrated, if you plan ahead and square up both sides of the room as well as ensure you measure out and trim the starting wall properly so you don’t end up with a little sliver on the far side lol. I blind nailed mine straight to the rafters with 16 ga 2” nails perpendicular to the joists and it’s solid as hell. I staggered mine something like 6,8,10,12 in the large rooms and it looks super nice. It’s nice to see that as an amateur I pretty much “nailed” my installation like a pro would. 😂 great work guys!
It's awesome you tackled that on your own. Great job! Btw by "staggered" I hope you don't mean you stair-stepped them. With flooring and panelling you always want your joints to be as random as possible. That being said, a lot of veteran carpenters do stair-step their joints. It's a common mistake. It isn't "wrong" but it doesn't look as good as random joints.
Looking good brother..congratulations on landing that job. I know its a nice one and there is nothing better then a customer that values your work and understands this is the part that makes the job. The attention to detail towards the end of the build. You can have the best framers,drywallers in the world but you have a person or crew start slamming trim and whole job looks like crap. Now don't get me wrong..I know every phase should be treated just as good bc everything does matter but now a days you see so many companies rushing through projects and using crap materials. A question I always ask the guy's is "don't you enjoy feeling good at the end of the day..when you can take off your belt step back and look and be proud of what you did" It seems so many people want things done as fast and cheap as possible. And that's contractor's as well as customer's. I can remember the day's I would take on anything and everything I could but over the years I wised up and came to realize everything isn't for me. If it's gonna beat on my pride then I will politely tell them I don't think I'm the right guy for the job. I know way shape or form am I living the dream and in position to turn down every job that's not the "perfect" job but we still stay working and at the end of the day we head home feeling good about yourselfers and knowing we did everything correctly and what we built was done with pride and respect towards our customers.
Nice job, that's what I am doing this week. FYI blind nailing T&G is totally fine, the tongue will only split out if you nail too close to the cut edge, but even so the next board can slide tight over it. We only face nail if you can't fit the nail gun up there next to the peak of the ceiling.
Love watching this. Keep going.
Man I wasn't a fan of that cut hub based on the price but seeing it more now it looks like a beast of a stand.
I certainly agree and the more I see it the more I see the value in it.
Nice job men. Keep up the good work.
First time I saw you wearing a tool belt ( diamond back ) I like it 👌 beautiful job 👍
First off..beautiful job. And congratulations on landing the this project. I remember you saying there is a lot of work there and alot of cool things planned. A couple things I may have done a little different but I'm a fan and not here to talk any kinda trash about you should have done this or that. I am a little surprised this far into the build of the home the builder or customer or whoever is overseeing the building in a whole hasn't had power in there yet. Especially with finish work starting. If you are wearing a skully inside I'm guessing it's a little cold in there? Gotta get that house conditioned. Just don't want you running into any issues. Nothing worse then redoing something you just did. Plus imagine how much nicer your day would go with some power, heat, lights and I'm guessing water isn't on yet either? Just don't want anything falling back on you. Hope everything goes well and looking forward to all the new videos. That house is gonna be something else..what's the size of that vent pipe for the range hood 10"-12"?
I love your videos. Everyday I learned something new and interesting. Thank you for taking the time to do twice as much work so we can all learn.
I wanted to buy one of your DeWaukee shirts, is it possible to get one in size small?
I love this channel!
Video/editing quality is on the money for this vid.
Great video Richard!
This is better than DIY channel. 💯💯👍👍👍
I used a Powernail 2000 to blind nail a cedar tongue and groove ceiling under my porch. It turned out really nice. Give that product a look, I would highly recommend it over a conventional trim nailer for tongue and groove ceilings.
So much room, and indoor set up. Nice
Richard rockin’ the cool drone intro 💪
Is been awhile I haven’t seen your video I’m glad I came across them today. Love ur work good job man….
One of my favorite TH-cam channels🤘
Edit: Super Mario pencil is 🔥
Nice tool belt man! Love it
Always great work
Watched this before on tv but I’m back now to comment. Great content, great editing.
awesome content. looking forward to the other phases of this job. Thankyou for sharing. Man your channel is growing fast, not a surprise with all the high quality content. If you ever made a channel just for the business side of what you do, i would for sure subscribe to it. Just started my own business a little over a year ago and im always looking for knowledge. Again keep it up and Thankyou for the inspiration.
That a cool video keep up the good work!!
Great tips for a job I'm getting ready to have done but good to know. Thanks
Gonna be a fun project to follow along with. Ceilings are a pain in the neck
Great video Richard ,thanks
Looks great!
So much paint prep !!!
Excellent- you got the contract.
What a beautiful home good job
That’s why I love the little Keno pencils our work wife brings in...she gives baggies full of em.
I use 18 GA staples in the tongue ✌ perfect job as always 👊😎 keep on
Great job.. As always.
Awesome job man. It looking good. They should have the heat and a/c on if yall are in there installing trim.
I always blind nail. 18 Guage with pl premium.I cut everything with the tracksaw with the instasquare up on the scaffolding to save trips up and down.
I've also found that putting a bevel on the cuts with cordless router helps. It accents the joint, but any movement is not as noticeable down the road.
@@degrom542 Also doesn't push them tight against the previous board
Blind nail definitely, as a General Contractor first, I always prefer to keep unnecessary work to the absolute minimum. In this case the extra nail holes needing to be filled are not the best objective and what seems minuscule in nature is actually an extra step and more unnecessary job cost. JMO!
Those look so nice when Stained. We install those mostly on vaulted ceiling’s
Great work !
Nice job Richard .. working on getting you some 3d printed end caps for your TrackTubes crown stop system.
Love the look of the T&G ceiling, more great ideas as we design our retirement home...need to cost of building materials to get back somewhere close to normal. Not sure about in Dallas but the cost here in Michigan is crazy right now. Thanks for the great video.
I just sent my helper to local lumberyard here in Jersey and spent $75 for 6-2×4×8' regular studs. ;( B4 all this craziness they were about $3-3.25 each.
@@billzima7068 crazy....not the time to be building a retirement home
I'm a builder in Northern Michigan (TC) and yeah, prices are crazy. Low to mid 30s for a sheet of ½ inch OSB? That's ridiculous. Places are only guaranteeing prices on lumber packages for a week!
We’re paying $20-25 a sheet for 7/16” OSB and $5.50-6.00 for 2x4x96” studs in the PAC Northwest
I sure would like to see more USA mills for one thing but doubt that will happen!
oooooh big job again .... great vid. perfect for a scary halloween ... big job!!! nice!
I loved!!
Maybe it's just me but I have hung alot of t&g and always put the first board groove side to the wall. That way I can hit the tongue with my soft blow hammer if necessary for fit and not the groove side which could break. I put the last two boards in together by angling both and pushing the middle in for a tight fit. My 18ga. Milwaukee with the right tip blind nails just fine and saves on putty later. I have had good luck with ceiling boxes/cans putting a thin bead of silicone on their edge and placing the board up the pressing against it. Take it down and use a hole saw or jig saw. Wouldn't work on those sprinkler heads though...Looks like it is going to be a great project for you!
You are correct
glad to see you got the job!! Question I have do you need a space for expansion like floors but great job
Brilliant job and video mate
The Dewalt 20 V Router with a flush cut works great for the cutouts, that is what I use for cutouts on hardwood flooring, I would imagine it would be the same for that material.
I don't know who hits the dislike button, but obviously they don't know why.
I'm not saying your work is perfect, but you get to improve yourself along the way and so far you two are doing great. So keep up the good work and make great videos so we can follow your work and enjoy a quality job well done!
When you stop in Houston, let me know. Maybe we can have lunch together.
happy haloween , exciting even ur board lol
Richard, you’re awesome man. Thanks for doing this channel. I’m learning a ton. Why do you have 2 tape measures on your tool belt?
Great work 👏 👍
That Diamondback tool belt tho 🔥🔥🔥
For cutting large diameter holes in wood try one of those: STAR-M no. 5010T TCT adjustable hole saw for wood.
I will just say my m18 compact router definitely can handle that if u were to go that route. I know the screws stop u. But i will say it surprised me how tough it is...have faith my friend...lol.. great vids keep them coming
What a beautiful job....
Nice job. 👍
Concerning scaffolding on stairs:
I have two of those aluminum, extension planks they sell at Lowes. I also have two each of 3' step stools, 6' and 8' ladders, along with a 20' aluminum extension ladder. I've painted all different styles of stairs using just these tools. For all but the super high stuff I've gotten away with a combination of the step stools, the 4 shorter ladders and the planks. Then you've got the stairs that go from the first floor all the way to the ceiling of the second floor; all open space. In these cases I'll take the extension ladder and place it straight up the tall side so the feet are sitting on the first floor and it's extended to within 7' or so of the ceiling; I'm 6' tall so with my hands above my head I can easily reach the ceiling. Then I put the plank one side onto the aluminum ladder and the other end on one of my other ladders sitting either on the landing in the middle or the floor of the second story.
Outstanding job as always Richard. Why when they installed the sprinkler heads didn’t they allow for the material thickness? Now they have to extend the piping to if needed they work correctly. I hope there is attic access as I just had to Sheetrock around 11 replacement heads on an older house and they cut out 12”x12” squares for access and working space as there wasn’t an attic above.
Great work guys. I do have 1 question is there a reason you install with groove side ahead. Ive been building for 20+ yrs & I have always installed it like flooring tongue side ahead. Very curious maybe I'll learn something
Nice you got the job!
“with my Super Mario pencil” 😂😂😂
Awesome video
Scott Brown Carpentry style musical flavaz ...nice! I know he watches your videos
Too cool with the super Mario pencil.. this tile guys got hello kitty pencils.. I was watching the video because I'm fixing to do my ceiling with tongue and groove pine
Nice work👍
Great video! Quick question-did you have to account for expansion gaps near the walls?
Great video! Do you recommend using glue if you have plywood underneath or is nailing it fine?
Wow, residential fire suppression system. Nice. With a room that large and open, that will likely save that house from burning down. Especially since there's no gypsum board on the ceiling.
Great video! I'm about to begin installing T&G like you installed on my hallway ceiling. My concern is I have a air intake register for my AC unit in the ceiling there and not sure how that will come down or be lowered to the same level at the new T&G. Is there an extension or something else to use to lower the vent intake? Thank you and keep up the great videos>>
I've got to put some of these up on like a trag styled ceiling and I've been stalling trying to get some more experienced assistance but that ain't forthcoming amid today's covid mindset workers. Major problem is that the place aint squared and I've put it in once. I might just end up doing this with my uncle this weekend if the professionals don't show up. I have to agree with other comments here. You are chill. Stay safe.
Looks awesome! Question small kitchen how do you finish it with an open ceiling to the dinning room? I just want this in my kitchen ! I believe you should lay the boards in length?
Nice job. I did mine similarly to you .
One of the natural awesomeness of the universe is joists usually run on the short length or perpendicular to the line of sight as you walk in. So that makes the t&g go parallel to the line of sight which makes the room look much bigger.
Great video! Thank you for sharing. One quick question, is it possible to install this without drywall or plywood? I'm pulling down the drywall so I can better insulate the cathedral ceiling.
Did my tongue and groove ceilings 6 months ago, only difference is I routed the ends/seams of every board to match the sides, and it looks sharp. I may be biased but I like the router edges better than the flat butt ends.
Same as you!