It's funny how back in 1989 Indiana Jones and Micheal Keaton Batman were competing for the top spot at the box office and now in 2023 Indiana Jones and Micheal Keaton Batman are fighting to see who can lose less money.
Mike had a prediction about Rise of Skywalker having a time travel plot but he did not factor in the continental drift which is why it actually happened in Dial of Destiny.
Connery was the exact same age in The Rock as Ford was in Crystal Skull (66), but Connery still looked like a guy that could kick your ass. They never should have gone beyond 3 movies.
It's like the old Simpsons gag about the Charles Bronson Death Wish movies. "Death Wish 9", and it's just Charles Bronson lying in a hospital bed saying "I Wish I Was Dead".
Before Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, I always thought they should have just recast Indiana Jones. Like James Bond, these films (at least the first 3) were largely separate adventures.
Honestly, I don't understand this trend of all movies being over two hours... The only really long movies I've watched in a movie theatre are the LotR trilogy, and my ass was numb afterward. I ended up walking out of the first Hobbit movie half an hour from the end because the 3D and/or double framerate was making my eyes and head hurt, and I realised that I didn't give a shit about seeing anymore of that cartooney nonsense, so why suffer physical pain for no reward?
@@jon4715 Yeah, it was genuinely terrible. It's such a simple, fun little adventure story and they managed to make basically the worst creative choices possible. Not to mention the financial choice to stretch it to three movies...
I think the LOTR movies started the 2:30hr trend, but they did it well and it's not meant for every story. Honestly, one of the reasons I like Renfield is that it's a quick 90-minute movie. That's a solid time frame.
@@haleymist09 90 minutes should be the aim, and you should only exceed it if you absolutely have to. If you're getting close to 3 hours you should probably have made a tv show instead. If LotR was made a decade or so later they'd probably have gone the tv route, and instead of 3 great movies we could have had multiple seasons of fantastic tv, kinda like a Game of Thrones that didn't fall apart in later seasons.
@@slow17motion I was never going to see this movie and, after three attempts, can’t seem to finish this episode, either. I think RLM is really going downhill with what you’re calling their contrarian opinion and attempts to justify it. It feels to me like credibility is on the wane.
In an alternate universe, the movie starts with Indiana recounting the train scene, rather than showing it, and Mike is complaining that they should have shown it.
This is a great idea. Makes me remember a Matrix redub, that the Russians did around 20 years ago about a bunch of mental patients who escaped a mental asylum and are riding around the subway imagining that they are fighting Nazis in Berlin and popping red & blue pills all the time.
"I remember Kathy coming in the room with her pen and pad, and she was *horrible* at taking notes. But she was good at interrupting people" - Stephen Spielberg
@@fprefect "We need to get a woman in here to understand the female audience. So they hire a woman and they have her bring the coffee a few times so they know she's reliable. Few decades later she's the boss and has her feet on the desk and says "I know what women want..."."
To the guys issues with the John Williams soundtrack: one of the things that made Williams so successful back in the day is that he actually had access to the script and accompanying footage when composing his scores. So, he could actually see what was supposed to be happening in the scene and he would compose the score from there. What's been happening in the last decade though is that Williams hasn't had access to said scripts or footage - either because Lucasfilm was keeping it under lock and key because of "lol, spoilers!" or as has been far more frequent in their projects, the scenes were needing to be completely re-written and reshot all the way down to the last minute. So it's a situation where either Williams has no idea what's supposed to be going on in a given scene or what the mood of the scene is supposed to be, or the original scene which he used for the basis of his score got completely rewritten or junked entirely.
I thought the soundtrack was as expected. He couldn't really do much more than do Indiana Jones music again, and with a movie this messy there was no way his music could possibly be better than previously because it takes music to make a great movie, and a great movie to make a great soundtrack memorable.
Yeah I thought this after seeing Rise of Skywalker, you can REALLY feel it in that. The music was just "Star Wars Ambience" with no real standout tracks. The sequels are terrible overall but even TFA and TLJ were able to get some excellent motifs out of him, but now these movies are being held together with glue, some string and a prayer, tossed out the door with unfinished scenes and plots that go nowhere and/or make no sense. How can he write music for films where the director has no idea what he's making?
"The elderly watch any movie" Mike is 100% right here a friend and I went to go see an anime romcom in the cinema in the middle of ireland and there was a group of 8 elderly people there.
Anime has been around for a long time. There are plenty of old folks who grew up on classic anime like Astroboy. It's not like you're going to stop watching anime when you're elderly. My whole generation about to be 80 year olds yelling at each other in virtual reality call of duty lol.
@@FringeSpectre Believe me, in Ireland elderly people aren’t clued in to things like anime. I work in a cinema in Dublin and every week local elderly people come to the early daytime showings for literally every movie. They get their pension money and the cinema is one of the only places when you’re out and about it town where you can sit in relative peace and quiet so I think a lot of them do this, especially if they’re lonely.
Knowing that this happens, there has been at least one elderly person who unexpectedly really enjoyed watching an anime movie for the first time at the theatre, and maybe looked for more anime stuff after that experience. That warms my little heart.
@@Ammoniumbicarbonat Yeah bro because you know every single elderly person alive. You know exactly what they like. Midwit. Elderly people today were in their 40s and 50s when Spirited Away came out. Get the f outta here.
I love how he automatically assumes the other officers and generals would instantly fall in line with the man who killed their nation's leader simply because he says he knows better than him instead of, you know, executing him for regicide. Then again, the doc made a lot of assumptions that inevitably got him killed so his plan was bound to bite him in the ass whether he went to the right time or not.
@@seamusthatsthedog4819 Nope. In fact, the whole obsession with killing Hitler is mostly an American/Western European thing and really rather creepy. Killing Hitler doesn't even necessarily stop the Nazis rising to power - I mean, killing Hitler doesn't make Magnus Hirschfeld and the Berlin Institute of Sexology or whatever cease to exist lol. I think I'd prefer to kill and replace FDR or Stalin tbh fam. No Stalin, no Holodomor, probably no Holocaust. Hitler might never even rise to power. No FDR, means no entrapping the Japanese, means the US never enters WW2 and Hiroshima/Nagasaki never get bombed. Besides, whatever you might think, Hitler seems to have been a pretty sweet guy - vegetarian, loved animals, artistic, even maintained friendly correspondence with a little Jewish girl! If you want me to believe dude was on-board with a genocidal campaign, you're gonna need some more proof than post-war Soviet architecture, documents "found" a decade after the war by Allied assets, or outlandish claims by Eastern European ghetto Jews talking to US State Department propagandists about electrified floors, masturbation machines and venomous German Shepherds lmfao
True story: I was setting up for an academic conference meeting today and wanted to test the speaker. I played the first video that came up on TH-cam and it was this. Assumed there was a speaker issue. Spent 20 minutes trying to figure out the problem and finally just switched computers. Only realized the janky opening sound was actually part of the video hours later. Thanks a lot you hacks.
That actually would have been cool. Just don't overdue the corniness of that scene. Keep it short and sweet. It would of gotten a good chuckle from people.
Love the concept of the opening sequence being Indy as a grumpy old guy getting up in the morning and facing minor inconveniences on his way to work. That would have been so brilliantly funny.
Jay telling Mike about tik-tok trends is like showing your mom a meme on your phone and she squints to see it and say "that's not very nice" or some shit like that.
20:30 My gf is also a film editor and points out that it's the same lightning burst, those same take between the two "part time" takes. Her theory is that the bad take is his ADR over the scene, crapped out in a studio sound booth, and that they probably didn't have a clean multichannel audio recording for the more natural take.
The mysterious Greek clock thing that Mike is talking about is called the Antikythera Mechanism, and funny enough, it was the main inspiration for the 1990s video game Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine! A game that had a better story than Crystal Skull and Dial of Destiny combined...
@@orangeants more or less, yeah. I think the scientific consensus is that it was a computer for calculating star movements throughout the seasons. Or something to that effect.
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis was really good too IMO. Guess not to surprising since both games have the same project leader, designer, and writer
@@ChalkiePerfect Indy is now old, depressed, divorced, and suicidal after Mutt dies in Vietnam. Fleabag comes in and says lets get a dial. She tries to get Indy murdered twice, by locking him in with Nazis who also want the dial to go back and kill Hitler. They find the dial, but the Nazi's steal it, so Indy and Fleabag go after the Nazis to save Hitler. They all go back to 212 BCE in WW2 Bombers because the dial only goes back to that specific point in time, from this specific time, for reasons. One bomber gets shot down by arrows and doesn't change the past. Indy also gets shot, says let me die in peace, I have nothing to live for. Fleabag says no, you'll change the past if you die here. Fleabag then performs some elder abuse, and Indy wakes up in NY back in 1969, depressed, suicidal, and alone. Then in walks Marion, and he's then depressed, suicidal, but no longer alone. The End.
@@daniel.s.stefanov As someone who used to have a pet snake, the idea of getting a snake into anything but a tangle is laughable. The only reliable way I could get my snake to do something was to pull him in the opposite direction of where I wanted him to go. 😄
The idea of an opening sequence with Indy making breakfast etc. is kind of what happens in Fate Of Atlantis, which has Indy recovering an artifact at the college, with "traps" like the bookcase falling down.
Wow, if I had a nickel for every time Shia LaBeouf's character died offscreen before the fifth film in a franchise, I'd have two nickels... which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
@@PNS311 The Michael Bay Transformer movies. He's the main human character in the first three, never mentioned in the fourth, and revealed to be dead in the fifth.
@@TheOwneroftheIC It's really not, though. I think Jay had it right. If the second half of "Crystal Skull" never happened, then it would easily be the superior movie, but the second half was SO bad that it wrecked the whole movie. This new one is just OK the whole time. It's not bad, it just doesn't do anything amazing and it's too long. The last movie I have no desire to ever see again, but this one might get a replay every now and again if I ever get bored.
That's my sentiment too. This movie isn't great, but the last one had an alien looking into the camera and burning the villain to dust with mind powers
My friend and I got blazed out of our minds thinking it would make a dumb movie fun, and we came out disappointed in just about every way you could imagine. The audience collectively and audibly cringed when he rolled out of the fridge.
When you're really old like me or Mike 15 years ago is like yesterday. Or maybe it's just that the horrific memories of Crystal Skull are just still too vivid. The gophers. The nuke-proof fridge.The monkeys. Shia LeBoef. Shia LeBoef and the monkeys. Part time. Magnetic crystal skull that attracts gold. Using a snake as a rope. Why Aliens?....oh god the brain melting horror of it all
In 1989, Batman and Indiana Jones appeared in theaters. In 2008, Batman and Indiana Jones appeared in theaters. In 2023, Batman and Indiana Jones appeared in theaters.
1981/1982: First Indiana Jones and First Rambo movie (neither have the main character’s name in the title) 1984/1985: Second Indiana Jones and Second Rambo movie 1988/1989: Third Indiana Jones and Third Rambo movie 2008: Fourth Indiana Jones and Fourth Rambo movie 2019/2023 (would have been sooner had it not been for the pandemic): Fifth Indiana Jones and Fifth Rambo movie
The comment on Indy just trying to get get to work with his adventure theme going had me on the floor.😂 I just pictured him leaving his hat on the subway, and reaching back to grab it through the closing doors.
@@williamcobbett4943 by making that dick joke in best of the worst, Rich freed himself from Mike's grasp, who now can't siphon off his life force anymore. Rich is slowly regaining his health back and soon he will be able to defeat Mike for good
The idea of an action opening focused on Indy going through the mundane tribulations of a normal day, if done right could have actually been really clever and charming.
The biggest problem Is that Indiana jones used to have such grounded action scenes. They were slow, methodical, and weighty. These were just fast cgi sequences.
@@Arkandos42 Same with Star Trek Discovery, and loads of movies/series. They have to shoot and edit them like a fanboy on acid, because if you slowed down at all you'd realize there's almost zero story. Just move fast and nobody will notice we're saying nothing at all!
@@derkeheath5172 "There's nothing more torturous than watching a video game." This is what you get when you make Indiana Jones for the Twitch generation.
I think the perfect ending to Indiana Jones would be that he finally got his prize artifact put in a museum. The last scene would be him in the museum sitting back with a smile on his face as people enjoyed looking at the artifact.
They did the perfect ending, they literally shot a scene of him riding into the sunset. That wasn't an accident. It's just Lucas got a massive ego blow with the prequels and wanted to show he still had it with making another Indy... He did not "have it".
@@SpicyWeiner777 And now every triumphant moment in the films is reframed as part of a tragic arc, just like that scene of them all clapping away merrily in Return of the Jedi, oblivious to the fate that awaits them.
The perfect ending would be if they had Indiana Jones taxidermied and put him in a museum. The last scene would be him in the museum with a smile on his face as people enjoyed looking at him.
@@SpicyWeiner777It works narratively too, as it was set up. That on this adventure, Indy left this treasure buried, too dangerous to be brought back and instead let go of it, his family and friends were more important. The new lease on life he gave his dad from the grail was also his as well, given that his dad saved him. Riding off into the sunset was a strong image to end on as to point out that its the journey with your loved ones and not always the destination that matters most.
@@Reddsoldier Here's an idea, a movie series based around how all those booby traps were constructed. I'd quite enjoy seeing a Pygmy site manager wondering where the best place for the gigantic stone boulder would be.
I love when rich is like "how could he have possibly survived that" and then they edited in two other scenes in which people survive much more insane shit
Prof Jones telling Indy to let the grail go was telling him that he was valuing the well-being of his son more than his life’s work, and that he didn’t need to get the macguffin to prove himself to his father. So he‘d be able to stop putting himself in danger for things. And able to have a life.
Right. The 'Last' in the movie title has a double-meaning, it was intended to be the final Indy movie. I remember both Spielberg and producer Robert Watts expressing this view in interviews at the time of release (1989).
The danger of filming a discussion within hours of watching a movie. Watch their discussion about Prometheus for example, they're fairly kind to it, only to get more annoyed at the movie in the days and weeks afterwards, later filming that cameo segment for Honest Trailers or something where they're asking about all the nonsensical plot holes.
@@korganrocks3995that's not really accurate. In some review like a few years later (it may have been the Alien Covenant review) they still talked fairly positively about Prometheus, saying they appreciated what it tried to do and that it got way too much hate. They were always moderately positive about it but acknowledged that it had plenty of annoying/stupid parts.
@@byers31303 I seem to recall them mentioning it at some point, maybe on pre-rec. Everything I've heard and seen from Alien Covenant makes me think anyone who actually watched that dumpster fire all the way through would retroactively become more positive towards Prometheus for simply not being as terrible. Prometheus remains the most annoyingly uneven movie I've ever seen; the difference in competence between the script and the directing/cinematography is enough to give you whiplash.
@@korganrocks3995 but my point is that it wasn't retroactive positivity - they enjoyed it enough when they first saw it, and if anything, their views on it only improved. And I didn't think the movie was amazing or anything, but the problems people have with it are extremely nitpicky, or they are just straight up wrong. It's like they watched some shitty Cinemasins video on it and just regurgitated everything that they heard from that. Stuff like "why didn't they run sideways?" and the answer is - the main girl did run sideways, Charlize didn't. That's why she died and the other girl lived. That's like the whole point of that scene. Or "why did the map guy get stuck in the caves?" Because there was a huge storm outside. Like, where could he have gone lol? If people didn't like it, that's totally understandable. But the criticisms I always hear about it make me think that people that hate the movie didn't even watch it
@@byers31303 I'd hardly say their views on it improved, but that takes us back to my original statement. I tend to mainly rewatch BotW, so I doubt I'll stumble upon some random conversations about Prometheus any time soon in one of their videos. As for the nitpicky critisism, we'll have to agree to disagree, because when I watched it I was baffled by the absolute idiocy of basically every single character, as well as the "I'm 14 and this is deep" overarching philosophy of the movie. Also, the whole idea of aliens kickstarting life on earth is pointless in a religous/philosophical sense, since all that does is push back the origin of life to when those aliens first evolved. It's a solution that doesn't actually answer the question. PS. I don't know about other people, but I was annoyed that the map guy got lost in the first place, not that he got stuck in the caves. Also that the biologist got scared of dead aliens but wanted to pet the scary live alien snake.
These guys missed the moment when Archimedes looked at the completed dial and said "Eureka!" That is the causality loop. I don't blame them though. It is so undersold it might as well have been an Easter Egg.
In the original Indiana Jones films he did not look at random women like they were pieces of meat. He didn't even look at Willie with interest when he first met her. Marianne was an old flame (or young flame depending how you look at it), and Elsa was an irresistible femme fatale. Indy never eyed other women, and his disinterest in his adoring female students showed he wasn't some lecherous guy.
@@andystegall7407 The people who make women characters all gross like this from some sort of perverse "feminist" a.k.a. misandrist perspective fundamentally misunderstand why those behaviors are wrong in the first place. Kathleen Kennedy isn't trying to get humans to treat each other better with compassion and respect because then she wouldn't play such a huge role in the gigantic, sketchy monster that is Disney... No, she and others like her just want to BE those creepy, powerful individuals. They don't want to change the system that incentivizes their antisocial behavior. Their philosophical beliefs suck complete ass and fail to address the real-world issues that they're supposedly tackling.
They actually cut that from Raiders, but it was written in that he did in fact sleep with his female students. One of them was supposed to be at his house when Marcus came to see him off before he went to Nepal.
I'd love to be in some random Wisconson movie theatre during the previews, and just hear Rich Evans busting out laughing when some ridiculous giant animal movie preview comes on
Fun Fact: When Helena punched Indiana unconscious, she actually killed him. He was already weak from being shot and she just finished him off. The rest of the movie is the last of his brain firing up an hallucination. That's why he's suddenly home seeing his close friend, and also that rather unpleasant woman that he's been traveling with. He's suddenly back together with Marion, his one true love. As his brain blinks out and he succumbs to death, he reaches for his hat, a representation of his long and unfulfilled life. Once she knocks him out, the rest is just a brain death dream.
I enjoyed spotting which actors in the prologue were going to survive and be seen again in the present day (as they were de-aged), and which ones I knew would die and not be seen again as they were not de-aged.
40:08 Wooow, you guys have no idea how insanely nostalgic it is for me to see this footage. No Brand Con was the first convention I ever went to by myself, didn't even know RLM was attending until years later. Not only did I meet my husband there, but that hotel has since been demolished and replaced with a hospital... which my daughter was born in. ❤ Seeing Mike fall in that artist alley that no longer exists evokes really powerful memories for me.
the scene( as books that have been removed from various previously acceptable curriculum ) • largely noticed by much younger YT 'reactors' powering through the first 4 Films • . . . commenting about the current climate & that this nation creeps eerily close to 30s post WW I Europe
Yes, a female Indiana Jones, a woman archeologist who seeks out ancient items, fighting off the bad guys while doing it. What would you call her?..... Laura Croft. You'd call her Laura Croft.
I took Indy chanting “Hell No We Won’t Go” as him trying to get the attention of the other protestors to help him as he’s being carried away by The Man, and they would jump in and help “one of their own”. I agree that it was poorly done but this was my interpretation.
That was my thought but then absolutely nothing happened and it went nowhere so there was no point in even including it. Which was most of the scenes in the film.
My interpretation is that Indy just wanted to protest for a second because of mutt dying in Vietnam. Whatever they were going for it was weirdly executed.
Yeah I thought he was trying to incite a riot. Then nothing happened. Did you notice the horseback cop he called out for help for too? The cop just walks away out of frame while Indy is yelling at him & he just steals the horse, cop nowhere in sight? 😂
The best part of Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny was that it was a double feature: the first 20 minutes was the Polar Express and then you got a Geriatric Indiana Jones film! What more could anyone ask for!
I imagined that Archimedes was going to be some guy from modern times who invented time travel and became Archimedes once they discovered that his body had a watch
Don't you just love how in an hour long review of this film that Mike, Jay and Rich only bring up fake Short Round once and never again. A perfect encapsulation of his impact on the movie.
Hearing that John Williams music play while Indiana Jones is late for work would have been a perfect opening for an action movie with an 80-year-old protagonist. Mike is too good at inventing better movies on the spot.
In the future I hope to see an in depth documentary into how bad the fumbles behind the scenes at Disney have REALLY been. Had Star Wars and Indiana Jones and all there own iconic properties and managed to make every single thing just terrible. It's actually really damn impressive.
A majority of Star Wars content since the Disney purchase has been good. Rise of Skywalker and Rogue One are the worst things by far. Andor and the first season of the Mandalorian are incredible Star Wars media pieces.
@@viktorceder4985 - I'll agree on The Mandalorian until Season 3. That was really bad. I was also not fond of Luke's cameo at the end of Season 2, especially since the additional scenes with him and Grogu in TBoBF lead to absolutely nothing. It would have been slightly better if instead of Luke, it had been some other Jedi. Of course, this still wouldn't solve the issue of how Grogu leaving Din turns out to be a non-event because he returns SO quickly. For me, Mando was over once they blew up the Razor Crest. No more bounty hunting, no more new locations and new characters. It's become the next season of Clone Wars. If I'd seen Clone Wars, I suppose might be more excited, but the writing and direction are awful. Andor was terrific, I just wish Diego's Luna's performance wasn't so restrained. Hopefully, they can make him more expressive in the second season. I could watch Stellan Skarsgard stare mournfully into the distance all day long, but Diego just doesn't have that special something that works for me when he does it.
@@viktorceder4985 No, it hasn't. And if you think it has, you are the problem. Shit man, let's be real: Star Wars hasn't been good since Empire. Even Jedi was pretty trash and mostly functions on nostalgia, nevermind what a trainwreck the prequel trilogy or that absolute crime against humanity that was the sequel trilogy. All the Star Wars content now just feels derivative, disconnected from its origin, its ethos tired and shown a thousand times over to be rhetorical drivel for (adult) kiddos, the content itself akin to lil bits of the rotted corpse of a horse that's been dead for almost 40 years and been being beaten for at least half, which was never even a horse to begin with and really more of a horse-shaped amalgam of stolen ideas and advertisements for cheap plastic children's toys. I mean this with as little offense as I can muster, but if you like this garbage, you have bad taste, and are one of the wellsprings of this glut of trashpile media we've been getting.
@@kyloren1014no, they went back to Syracuse because the calculations didn’t take into account “continental drift”. The dial doesn’t *only* go back to that date. Where did you get that idea?
@@sampedder98 from the movie it is stated that is what happened Archimedes called for help and they showed up remember in the puppet play of the battle there were dragons
@@sampedder98 Indy was bullshitting them. At around 1 inch per year, Continental drift would've shifted the coordinates about a football field's distance over 2000k years, which is unnoticeable when you're flying an airplane, and negligible even when you're on foot.
I love how Rich's audio was doubled for most of this video. His voice should ALWAYS sound like some reverberating, god-like being who is above us all.... as, that is what he is.
I actually laughed at the bit where he smacks the big goon with the peace sign. Like, hitting him with a peace sign is kind of funny, but the fact that the peace sign was made of flimsy cardboard and just limply splashes across the goon's chest was also visually funny.
It's funny how back in 1989 Indiana Jones and Micheal Keaton Batman were competing for the top spot at the box office and now in 2023 Indiana Jones and Micheal Keaton Batman are fighting to see who can lose less money.
forgot about 08
Good observation.
We have come full circle.. this is a sign that world's about to end
Lose less?
I do not think that you quite understand the rules of the competition here.
@@d3nza482you missed the joke...😂
Mike had a prediction about Rise of Skywalker having a time travel plot but he did not factor in the continental drift which is why it actually happened in Dial of Destiny.
Bro! I forgot!
Thank you for the laugh
Archimedes forgot to add kurt angle into the mix
Nicely done!
@@Azmodaiithe chances drastic go down
Harrison Ford is 20 years older than Sean Connery was during the Last Crusade
Bro oh my fucking god😳
What can I say, Kathleen Kennedy is a modern genius
I mean, a testimonial to the life extending effects of daily pot and wine, I guess
A ray of light in a world smoldering in utter daily despair
Connery was the exact same age in The Rock as Ford was in Crystal Skull (66), but Connery still looked like a guy that could kick your ass. They never should have gone beyond 3 movies.
It's like the old Simpsons gag about the Charles Bronson Death Wish movies. "Death Wish 9", and it's just Charles Bronson lying in a hospital bed saying "I Wish I Was Dead".
and star trek xii - so very tired
@@pepepoopsonthefarright7531 lol that's a classic too. "Again with the Klingons.'
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@@jimreily7538 isss a nooo gooood capn! i cannae reeach d control panull!!!
Oyy
You just know Mike spent the entire movie laughing at senile Indiana Jones. His contempt for the elderly is unyielding.
Yeah every time he complained about any of his elderly problems mike died laughing
He must laugh when he looks in the mirror.
@@cheers2023like you do?
@@cheers2023well I think that is the end game for Mike’s story arc at least
@ZeR0goth yep everyday!
So excited for this movie. I remember watching the original films as a kid thinking how much better they'd be if he were 80.
Before Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, I always thought they should have just recast Indiana Jones. Like James Bond, these films (at least the first 3) were largely separate adventures.
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I know. I am disappointed he didn't have a walker and some depends.
@@andyholstein237Exactly. I mean, get someone like...i dont know. Joaquin Phoenix.
His brother was Indiana Jones !
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All the chase sequences make sense, like any 80 year old, Indiana Jones is most dangerous behind the wheel of a car.
He's probably even more dangerous in a wheelchair.
You mean a plane
@@VODZ get off my plane
@@VODZthose planes have tried to kill Harrison numerous times in the past to prevent him from making more Indiana Jones movies
that elderly driving video from wheel of the worst was right, they just didn't realise it
I love how Mike had to stop mid sentence to rejuvenate himself with alcohol.
Just like me when I watched this film in the theatre.
+7 Mana
"cut out an hour" has been the most pertinent movie making advice for almost a decade.
Honestly, I don't understand this trend of all movies being over two hours... The only really long movies I've watched in a movie theatre are the LotR trilogy, and my ass was numb afterward. I ended up walking out of the first Hobbit movie half an hour from the end because the 3D and/or double framerate was making my eyes and head hurt, and I realised that I didn't give a shit about seeing anymore of that cartooney nonsense, so why suffer physical pain for no reward?
@@korganrocks3995The Hobbit just got worse and worse. It's unredeemable.
@@jon4715 Yeah, it was genuinely terrible. It's such a simple, fun little adventure story and they managed to make basically the worst creative choices possible. Not to mention the financial choice to stretch it to three movies...
I think the LOTR movies started the 2:30hr trend, but they did it well and it's not meant for every story. Honestly, one of the reasons I like Renfield is that it's a quick 90-minute movie. That's a solid time frame.
@@haleymist09 90 minutes should be the aim, and you should only exceed it if you absolutely have to. If you're getting close to 3 hours you should probably have made a tv show instead. If LotR was made a decade or so later they'd probably have gone the tv route, and instead of 3 great movies we could have had multiple seasons of fantastic tv, kinda like a Game of Thrones that didn't fall apart in later seasons.
Being in the same theatre as Rich watching The Meg 2 trailer must have been a life altering experience
As much as I'd love it, I doubt they review either movie. Maybe in 30 years for a Review.
Its gone from 'is it a good movie or not' to 'hey this 20 second scene wasn't miserable'
I’ve gone from ‘I’m never going to see this movie’ to ‘Clearly I didn’t miss out on anything.’
This episode was also miserable
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@@slow17motion I was never going to see this movie and, after three attempts, can’t seem to finish this episode, either. I think RLM is really going downhill with what you’re calling their contrarian opinion and attempts to justify it. It feels to me like credibility is on the wane.
@@SumDumGyit's actually quite good tbf
In an alternate universe, the movie starts with Indiana recounting the train scene, rather than showing it, and Mike is complaining that they should have shown it.
This sums up the review to a T.
The best alternate universe is one where this movie wasn't made
I think he would’ve praised the movie for NOT having a cartoon train flashback with an AI generated actor.
I think he would’ve praised the movie for NOT having a cartoon train flashback with an AI generated actor.
I think he would’ve praised the movie for NOT having a cartoon train flashback with an AI generated actor.
The chase scenes are more entertaining when you imagine the people chasing him are nurses and Indiana is just having an episode
That’s genius 😂
ok that made me chuckle
LMAO
This is a great idea.
Makes me remember a Matrix redub, that the Russians did around 20 years ago about a bunch of mental patients who escaped a mental asylum and are riding around the subway imagining that they are fighting Nazis in Berlin and popping red & blue pills all the time.
That is insanity. Thanks for the thought, friend.
"I remember Kathy coming in the room with her pen and pad, and she was *horrible* at taking notes. But she was good at interrupting people"
- Stephen Spielberg
" I still remember Mama with her apron and her pad
Feeding all the boys at Ed's Cafe"
- Frank Zappa
@@fprefect "We need to get a woman in here to understand the female audience. So they hire a woman and they have her bring the coffee a few times so they know she's reliable. Few decades later she's the boss and has her feet on the desk and says "I know what women want..."."
Just like Rich Evans
Someone on Back To The Future suggested that it should be called "Spaceman From Pluto". I bet it was Kathleen Kennedy.
She made a good cuppa joe.
To the guys issues with the John Williams soundtrack: one of the things that made Williams so successful back in the day is that he actually had access to the script and accompanying footage when composing his scores. So, he could actually see what was supposed to be happening in the scene and he would compose the score from there. What's been happening in the last decade though is that Williams hasn't had access to said scripts or footage - either because Lucasfilm was keeping it under lock and key because of "lol, spoilers!" or as has been far more frequent in their projects, the scenes were needing to be completely re-written and reshot all the way down to the last minute. So it's a situation where either Williams has no idea what's supposed to be going on in a given scene or what the mood of the scene is supposed to be, or the original scene which he used for the basis of his score got completely rewritten or junked entirely.
I thought the soundtrack was as expected. He couldn't really do much more than do Indiana Jones music again, and with a movie this messy there was no way his music could possibly be better than previously because it takes music to make a great movie, and a great movie to make a great soundtrack memorable.
There's also the fact that these movies have given him precious little to work with.
this was a fascinating read, thank ya
Let’s just pretend John Williams died after episode III
Yeah I thought this after seeing Rise of Skywalker, you can REALLY feel it in that. The music was just "Star Wars Ambience" with no real standout tracks.
The sequels are terrible overall but even TFA and TLJ were able to get some excellent motifs out of him, but now these movies are being held together with glue, some string and a prayer, tossed out the door with unfinished scenes and plots that go nowhere and/or make no sense.
How can he write music for films where the director has no idea what he's making?
I just love the idea of Jay browsing Tiktok laughing at Grimace shake memes.
"The elderly watch any movie"
Mike is 100% right here a friend and I went to go see an anime romcom in the cinema in the middle of ireland and there was a group of 8 elderly people there.
Anime has been around for a long time. There are plenty of old folks who grew up on classic anime like Astroboy. It's not like you're going to stop watching anime when you're elderly. My whole generation about to be 80 year olds yelling at each other in virtual reality call of duty lol.
@@FringeSpectre Believe me, in Ireland elderly people aren’t clued in to things like anime. I work in a cinema in Dublin and every week local elderly people come to the early daytime showings for literally every movie. They get their pension money and the cinema is one of the only places when you’re out and about it town where you can sit in relative peace and quiet so I think a lot of them do this, especially if they’re lonely.
Knowing that this happens, there has been at least one elderly person who unexpectedly really enjoyed watching an anime movie for the first time at the theatre, and maybe looked for more anime stuff after that experience. That warms my little heart.
@@Ammoniumbicarbonat Yeah bro because you know every single elderly person alive. You know exactly what they like. Midwit. Elderly people today were in their 40s and 50s when Spirited Away came out. Get the f outta here.
Down with this sort of thing!
So heartwarming to see Mike talk about a movie that is all about his true passion: Elder Abuse
*Snort* 😂
"He wants to kill Hitler and take hiss place because he knows where Hitler went wrong, which is nice." - Jay
I love how he automatically assumes the other officers and generals would instantly fall in line with the man who killed their nation's leader simply because he says he knows better than him instead of, you know, executing him for regicide. Then again, the doc made a lot of assumptions that inevitably got him killed so his plan was bound to bite him in the ass whether he went to the right time or not.
I mean, wouldn't you do that too?
@@seamusthatsthedog4819 Nope. In fact, the whole obsession with killing Hitler is mostly an American/Western European thing and really rather creepy. Killing Hitler doesn't even necessarily stop the Nazis rising to power - I mean, killing Hitler doesn't make Magnus Hirschfeld and the Berlin Institute of Sexology or whatever cease to exist lol.
I think I'd prefer to kill and replace FDR or Stalin tbh fam.
No Stalin, no Holodomor, probably no Holocaust. Hitler might never even rise to power.
No FDR, means no entrapping the Japanese, means the US never enters WW2 and Hiroshima/Nagasaki never get bombed.
Besides, whatever you might think, Hitler seems to have been a pretty sweet guy - vegetarian, loved animals, artistic, even maintained friendly correspondence with a little Jewish girl! If you want me to believe dude was on-board with a genocidal campaign, you're gonna need some more proof than post-war Soviet architecture, documents "found" a decade after the war by Allied assets, or outlandish claims by Eastern European ghetto Jews talking to US State Department propagandists about electrified floors, masturbation machines and venomous German Shepherds lmfao
@@seamusthatsthedog4819I would simply have taught the Germans to be nice
@@seamusthatsthedog4819 Anyone who would rather kill Hitler instead of saving Archduke Franz Ferdinand has lost the plot.
True story: I was setting up for an academic conference meeting today and wanted to test the speaker. I played the first video that came up on TH-cam and it was this. Assumed there was a speaker issue. Spent 20 minutes trying to figure out the problem and finally just switched computers. Only realized the janky opening sound was actually part of the video hours later. Thanks a lot you hacks.
Hack frauds
That is hilarious
😂
So trying another video wasn't an option, huh?
If this story is real then you suck at this shit.
I genuinely love the idea of an "action chase scene" where 80 year old Indy is just trying to get to his lecture at the university on time.
That actually would have been cool. Just don't overdue the corniness of that scene. Keep it short and sweet. It would of gotten a good chuckle from people.
Absolutely, someone like Edgar Wright using editing to make the mundane more exciting and hilarious.
I'd have taken that. In the right hands.
The Simpsons already did it in the episode Bart's Friend Falls in Love
Like an action version of „Clockwise“ with John Cleese
Love the concept of the opening sequence being Indy as a grumpy old guy getting up in the morning and facing minor inconveniences on his way to work. That would have been so brilliantly funny.
It'd probably work better as a short comedy sketch akin to the Shatner vs Gorn commercial where they re-stage their fight with sofa cushions.
Jay telling Mike about tik-tok trends is like showing your mom a meme on your phone and she squints to see it and say "that's not very nice" or some shit like that.
that's not very nice
did you take the picture? whos this???
"That's a terrible way to do business"
My mom would say "Don't be bringing people into our house through the phone!"
"Is that your friend?"
'Jason State Man' is my favorite Richevansism in a while, we are lucky to have him
Mike stopping in the middle of his sentence and saying "Hold on, I need to drink beer" tells me everything I need to know about this movie.
I can't wait for their Barbie/Oppenheimer double-feature.
"Barbie was depressing & boring and Oppenheimer was fun & subversive!"
I MAY see Oppenheimer.
No spoilers!
I’m gonna see Oppenheimer first then see Barbie afterwards in order to get the kino experience
They're not gonna watch either.
They'll watch some indie slop no one cares about instead
They need to review Asteroid City
@@XxXNOSCOPEURASSXxXYeah, so what?
20:30 My gf is also a film editor and points out that it's the same lightning burst, those same take between the two "part time" takes. Her theory is that the bad take is his ADR over the scene, crapped out in a studio sound booth, and that they probably didn't have a clean multichannel audio recording for the more natural take.
The mysterious Greek clock thing that Mike is talking about is called the Antikythera Mechanism, and funny enough, it was the main inspiration for the 1990s video game Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine! A game that had a better story than Crystal Skull and Dial of Destiny combined...
Wasn't that actually historically some kind of calculator
@@orangeants more or less, yeah. I think the scientific consensus is that it was a computer for calculating star movements throughout the seasons. Or something to that effect.
Reminds me of the Emperor's Tomb video game. That shit was awesome.
How would combining two terrible stories together make it stronger? But I get your point.
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis was really good too IMO. Guess not to surprising since both games have the same project leader, designer, and writer
"These zoomers stole our bit" was the most unexpected thing to come out of the grimace shake memes
40:09
WOOOOOOAAAAAAAOW
Very subversive for 80yr old Mike to reprise his role as a dementia-ridden movie watcher
thought u talking about the 🇺🇸 'President' age 🤭🤣
He subverted our expectations!
Part time?
@@ChalkiePerfect Indy is now old, depressed, divorced, and suicidal after Mutt dies in Vietnam. Fleabag comes in and says lets get a dial. She tries to get Indy murdered twice, by locking him in with Nazis who also want the dial to go back and kill Hitler. They find the dial, but the Nazi's steal it, so Indy and Fleabag go after the Nazis to save Hitler. They all go back to 212 BCE in WW2 Bombers because the dial only goes back to that specific point in time, from this specific time, for reasons. One bomber gets shot down by arrows and doesn't change the past. Indy also gets shot, says let me die in peace, I have nothing to live for. Fleabag says no, you'll change the past if you die here. Fleabag then performs some elder abuse, and Indy wakes up in NY back in 1969, depressed, suicidal, and alone. Then in walks Marion, and he's then depressed, suicidal, but no longer alone.
The End.
I CLAPPED!
Its unfortunate that these movies have missed the opportunity of character development with Indy finally using a snake as a whip.
They did use a snake as a rope, that was good enough for me :)
@@daniel.s.stefanov As someone who used to have a pet snake, the idea of getting a snake into anything but a tangle is laughable. The only reliable way I could get my snake to do something was to pull him in the opposite direction of where I wanted him to go. 😄
The mental image of Raiders-era Indy holding a clearly prop snake in VHS quality is incredible here, thank you!
The idea of an opening sequence with Indy making breakfast etc. is kind of what happens in Fate Of Atlantis, which has Indy recovering an artifact at the college, with "traps" like the bookcase falling down.
I know Rich is known for wacky noises but the noise that comes out of his mouth at 36:28 is unlike any noise I’ve heard another human make in my life
Sounded like a monkey haha
MYEH
imagine that as a clock alarm… MEH, MEH MEH
48:23 Right here, I swear he sounds like Ruby Rhod from The Fifth Element
Jay Leno made those noises all the time.
Of course, I forgive Rich Evans.
Rich Evans needs the Dialysis of Destiny after a grimace milkshake
Gold
And all those Tums.
Dialysis of Dysentery.
That’s not funny! This is elderly abuse
Diaper 🧷 change
Deepfake Harrison Ford is like seeing a guy in his 40s wearing his high school letterman jacket
*Al Bundy
Yep
@@bloodeagle6458 I doubt that's more expensive
@@mikeycrackson No argument here.
The 'who made that movie?' running gag gets me every time.
Hot Damn kids! Was it Magical Mystery Tour? I think my brain was still recovering from the train scene.
Still was better than the monkeys from Crystal Skull
@@chrisallen9509 hey hey we're the Monkees
Mike, are you loosing your mind?
At least this wasn't an endless trashing of fleabag like all the other sites. We get it, yall hate her. Move on. It's just a crappy movie.😮😮😮
No joke here, thanks for doing what you do 🫡
If I had a nickle for every time a character played by Shia LaBeouf was killed offscreen for a sequel, I would have two nickles.
Which isn’t much, but it’s wierd that it happened twice
Also what’s the other franchise where this happened? Transformers?
@@tylerm6453yeah
What else?
@@Don11037 Transformers 5
@@fyrusgrey5153 Damm really that's dirty lol wtf obviously his character was lame but after 3 movies you can't do that
This is as close to watching the movie as I'll ever get.
Count your blessings, you don’t have family members who will watch it the second they can stream it 😮💨
Ditto!(is ditto still a thing?...If not, I'm bringin' it back)
I found it fine, had some really good ideas, the villain is well done
It's honestly good, miles clear of Crystal Skull
@@mjm5081ditto is a thing for as long as Patrick Swayze is sexy.
👻⚱️🍆🍑
Wow, if I had a nickel for every time Shia LaBeouf's character died offscreen before the fifth film in a franchise, I'd have two nickels... which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
What other movie did he die offscreen?
@@PNS311 The Michael Bay Transformer movies. He's the main human character in the first three, never mentioned in the fourth, and revealed to be dead in the fifth.
Paramount franchises, no less
The use of forced perspective here is honestly masterful - Jay looks like a regular sized human 👏
Even more impressive he's actually 3 feet tall really learned for Peter Jackson for the forced perspective
Thank you for this, you made my day
I read this while inhaling a smoke, and I think I almost died of choking from laughter
Jay Baggins.
Deep faking out the apple box was superb.
I love how Indy is wanted for murder, and by the end, he still is...
But writing is haaaaaaaard
To quote a great man "WAT MUUUURRDDDAAAAAAHHHH!?"
@@petrifiedtoaster8572 "He was the best guy arouuuund"
and he's still a russian spy
The whole thing really just screams 'too many cooks in the kitchen'
This is the worst thing to happen to Indiana Jones since the last thing to happen to Indiana Jones.
This is worse than that.
South park really did nail Holly woods relationship with franchises (starwars and Indiana jones) and I mean literally nailed it.
@@TheOwneroftheIC It's really not, though. I think Jay had it right. If the second half of "Crystal Skull" never happened, then it would easily be the superior movie, but the second half was SO bad that it wrecked the whole movie. This new one is just OK the whole time. It's not bad, it just doesn't do anything amazing and it's too long. The last movie I have no desire to ever see again, but this one might get a replay every now and again if I ever get bored.
Releasing this movie is the worst thing that happened since making it.
That's my sentiment too. This movie isn't great, but the last one had an alien looking into the camera and burning the villain to dust with mind powers
Rich Evans is clearly letting his mortal guise slip here. You can hear his voice become ethereal and omnipresent every once in a while.
Crystal Skull being 15 years old is wild to me. Fuck I'm getting old.
no shut up, you're lying. I refuse- I REFUSE
I never thought we’d get an even more unnecessary cash-grab ego-aggrandizing sequel to Indian Jones but here we are…
It’ll be a very rapid slide into the grave from here. Prepare your will. Prepare your soul.
My friend and I got blazed out of our minds thinking it would make a dumb movie fun, and we came out disappointed in just about every way you could imagine. The audience collectively and audibly cringed when he rolled out of the fridge.
When you're really old like me or Mike 15 years ago is like yesterday. Or maybe it's just that the horrific memories of Crystal Skull are just still too vivid. The gophers. The nuke-proof fridge.The monkeys. Shia LeBoef. Shia LeBoef and the monkeys. Part time. Magnetic crystal skull that attracts gold. Using a snake as a rope. Why Aliens?....oh god the brain melting horror of it all
I speak for most RLM fans, I was looking forward to this more than I was the movie.
Honestly, yeah 😂
I’ll never forget my hype for the episode 9 review
1,000%!
I love hearing these knuckleheads talk about movies that I have no intention of ever seeing...They're that good!
Absolutely.
I speak for most Indiana Jones fans and we agree.
In 1989, Batman and Indiana Jones appeared in theaters.
In 2008, Batman and Indiana Jones appeared in theaters.
In 2023, Batman and Indiana Jones appeared in theaters.
yea but batman at least mixed things up by having a different guy in the middle there
It’s like poetry.
@@Mantis42 Also those Nolan Batman's were pretty boss too!
And from 1992 to 1995 Batman and Indiana Jones were both on TV
1981/1982: First Indiana Jones and First Rambo movie (neither have the main character’s name in the title)
1984/1985: Second Indiana Jones and Second Rambo movie
1988/1989: Third Indiana Jones and Third Rambo movie
2008: Fourth Indiana Jones and Fourth Rambo movie
2019/2023 (would have been sooner had it not been for the pandemic): Fifth Indiana Jones and Fifth Rambo movie
I love how Rich sounds like he’s in a tunnel when he gets loud
If Mike wasn't depressed already, you could almost tell the 1st take not working really annoyed him
The first take not working is one of the most frustrating things ever, especially when you had a good spontaneous conversation. Everybody looses
I’m impressed that Mike is still able to carry a conversation as well as he does, considering his alcoholic dementia.
It comes and goes.
@@mrdrprof99I think it’s pretty terminal at this point. A half can of flat beer is always beside his chair.
It was my alcoholic dementia that helped pull me through it...
Jay's hair is looking Hollywood
@@vpofrentemspoons2278😂😂😂
The comment on Indy just trying to get get to work with his adventure theme going had me on the floor.😂 I just pictured him leaving his hat on the subway, and reaching back to grab it through the closing doors.
That would be a great scene in some commercial or something..
That is genius!
That would've scratched the nostalgic itch that remains unsatisfied.
I just pictured that scene from Up with the old man getting up in the morning but with the Indiana theme playing over it
Mikes idea to make the opening action scene about old Indiana getting up in the morning was true genius.
Magical Mystery Tour, Mike.
Edit: great review though
Get to streaming, Vinny.
@@ThelronFjordok
@vinesauce Vinny do you prefer angel hair or normal spaghetti?
@@vinesauceLet me know when Vdub takes over
oh jesus christ, this guy?
The CGI to make Rich look like he’s 75 is impressive. Good work fellas.
Someone give Chat GPT a raise
I was gonna comment that rich actually looks really good. He's definitely benjamin buttoning
@@Valkyrie9000true, Rich looks healthier than ever
@@williamcobbett4943 by making that dick joke in best of the worst, Rich freed himself from Mike's grasp, who now can't siphon off his life force anymore. Rich is slowly regaining his health back and soon he will be able to defeat Mike for good
Rich has the Sean Connery Effect on him, the older he gets the prettier he becomes.
The idea of an action opening focused on Indy going through the mundane tribulations of a normal day, if done right could have actually been really clever and charming.
Eh, the Simpsons already did it.
Doing this kind of thing right has been Edgar Wright's expertise. His take on old Indiana Jones would have been quite interesting.
Like the Dexter intro
Yes and marketing won't allow it.
They could but it wouldn't be an Indiana Jones movie ...
The biggest problem
Is that Indiana jones used to have such grounded action scenes. They were slow, methodical, and weighty. These were just fast cgi sequences.
The entire movie was just way too fast, there was barely a second without action.
Kinda like another series disney bought that starred harrison ford
They aren't action sequences so much as video games sequences. There's nothing more torturous than watching a video game.
@@Arkandos42
Same with Star Trek Discovery, and loads of movies/series. They have to shoot and edit them like a fanboy on acid, because if you slowed down at all you'd realize there's almost zero story. Just move fast and nobody will notice we're saying nothing at all!
@@derkeheath5172
"There's nothing more torturous than watching a video game."
This is what you get when you make Indiana Jones for the Twitch generation.
I think the perfect ending to Indiana Jones would be that he finally got his prize artifact put in a museum. The last scene would be him in the museum sitting back with a smile on his face as people enjoyed looking at the artifact.
They did the perfect ending, they literally shot a scene of him riding into the sunset. That wasn't an accident.
It's just Lucas got a massive ego blow with the prequels and wanted to show he still had it with making another Indy... He did not "have it".
@@SpicyWeiner777beautiful 😢
@@SpicyWeiner777 And now every triumphant moment in the films is reframed as part of a tragic arc, just like that scene of them all clapping away merrily in Return of the Jedi, oblivious to the fate that awaits them.
The perfect ending would be if they had Indiana Jones taxidermied and put him in a museum. The last scene would be him in the museum with a smile on his face as people enjoyed looking at him.
@@SpicyWeiner777It works narratively too, as it was set up. That on this adventure, Indy left this treasure buried, too dangerous to be brought back and instead let go of it, his family and friends were more important. The new lease on life he gave his dad from the grail was also his as well, given that his dad saved him. Riding off into the sunset was a strong image to end on as to point out that its the journey with your loved ones and not always the destination that matters most.
I had a bad feeling about this movie when I saw an ad for a free ticket at Applebee's
By spending *$35* at Applebee's. Even in this economy, a movie ticket is less than that.
Rich evans pronounces so many words correctly in this one. He’s doing great!
should've had Alden Ehrenreich as indy for the opening train sequence
Yeah they had River Phoenix as Young Indy in the last crusade
That is so funny
I thought he was great in Solo, he would’ve been way better than the cgi abomination in this movie
Eh. At least we got the key jangling young Harrison scene. I’d rather have that deaged Harrison than forgettable cringe young actor.
Jay's hair looking absolutely magnificent in this episode, glad the patreon money is being spent on high quality wigs for Jay
I like the Urban Sasquatch look...
I want to see different versions of Jay with David Lynch’s box of wigs a la Twin Peaks: The Return
@@JaDav40he looks like captain america in civil war
He looks like Edgar Wright
I was thinking the same thing. I though it was quite the quaffed look.
An Indiana Jones movie without Indiana Jones is simply a National Treasure prequel.
Is that where we're headed? The next Indiana Jones film stars a deaged Nicholas Cage and the loop is complete.
@@Reddsoldier Here's an idea, a movie series based around how all those booby traps were constructed. I'd quite enjoy seeing a Pygmy site manager wondering where the best place for the gigantic stone boulder would be.
@@MedievalFolkDanceBecause Pygmies live in the jungles of Peru...
@@MedievalFolkDance They did a skit like that on Robot Chicken.
@@MedievalFolkDancerobot chicken already did rhat
A sad end to an iconic character. I'm talking about Rich Evans.
Cannon stops after Picard Season 1. Who wants to see grizzled, old versions of our favorite heroes?
I love when rich is like "how could he have possibly survived that" and then they edited in two other scenes in which people survive much more insane shit
Prof Jones telling Indy to let the grail go was telling him that he was valuing the well-being of his son more than his life’s work, and that he didn’t need to get the macguffin to prove himself to his father. So he‘d be able to stop putting himself in danger for things. And able to have a life.
Interesting.
And that's why the franchise ended with that movie.
@@wormfood83everything is corpsing lately.
Right. The 'Last' in the movie title has a double-meaning, it was intended to be the final Indy movie. I remember both Spielberg and producer Robert Watts expressing this view in interviews at the time of release (1989).
Not only that but you learn a lot about Henry Jones JUnIoR as well and the 4 ride off into the sunset as the credits roll that’s as final as it gets
This isn’t the first time, recently, that the guys have started off somewhat positively and then talked themselves out of it.
The danger of filming a discussion within hours of watching a movie. Watch their discussion about Prometheus for example, they're fairly kind to it, only to get more annoyed at the movie in the days and weeks afterwards, later filming that cameo segment for Honest Trailers or something where they're asking about all the nonsensical plot holes.
@@korganrocks3995that's not really accurate. In some review like a few years later (it may have been the Alien Covenant review) they still talked fairly positively about Prometheus, saying they appreciated what it tried to do and that it got way too much hate.
They were always moderately positive about it but acknowledged that it had plenty of annoying/stupid parts.
@@byers31303 I seem to recall them mentioning it at some point, maybe on pre-rec. Everything I've heard and seen from Alien Covenant makes me think anyone who actually watched that dumpster fire all the way through would retroactively become more positive towards Prometheus for simply not being as terrible.
Prometheus remains the most annoyingly uneven movie I've ever seen; the difference in competence between the script and the directing/cinematography is enough to give you whiplash.
@@korganrocks3995 but my point is that it wasn't retroactive positivity - they enjoyed it enough when they first saw it, and if anything, their views on it only improved.
And I didn't think the movie was amazing or anything, but the problems people have with it are extremely nitpicky, or they are just straight up wrong. It's like they watched some shitty Cinemasins video on it and just regurgitated everything that they heard from that.
Stuff like "why didn't they run sideways?" and the answer is - the main girl did run sideways, Charlize didn't. That's why she died and the other girl lived. That's like the whole point of that scene.
Or "why did the map guy get stuck in the caves?" Because there was a huge storm outside. Like, where could he have gone lol?
If people didn't like it, that's totally understandable. But the criticisms I always hear about it make me think that people that hate the movie didn't even watch it
@@byers31303 I'd hardly say their views on it improved, but that takes us back to my original statement. I tend to mainly rewatch BotW, so I doubt I'll stumble upon some random conversations about Prometheus any time soon in one of their videos.
As for the nitpicky critisism, we'll have to agree to disagree, because when I watched it I was baffled by the absolute idiocy of basically every single character, as well as the "I'm 14 and this is deep" overarching philosophy of the movie. Also, the whole idea of aliens kickstarting life on earth is pointless in a religous/philosophical sense, since all that does is push back the origin of life to when those aliens first evolved. It's a solution that doesn't actually answer the question.
PS. I don't know about other people, but I was annoyed that the map guy got lost in the first place, not that he got stuck in the caves. Also that the biologist got scared of dead aliens but wanted to pet the scary live alien snake.
There's a good reason for the dim lighting. It's to hide the bad CGI.
These guys missed the moment when Archimedes looked at the completed dial and said "Eureka!" That is the causality loop. I don't blame them though. It is so undersold it might as well have been an Easter Egg.
I thought it would have been great if Indy had said it when he figured out the water trick in the tomb. Even if Archimedes used it again later.
The black void is slowly becoming my favorite RLM set.
Rich's echo makes him sound like a Monster Truck announcer. I'm patiently waiting for him to say "SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!".
WITH BIGFOOT AND GRAVEDIGGER
SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAAAAAAAAIDS
If you miss this, you'd better be dead, or in jail!
You have to pay for the whole seat. BUT YOU'LL ONLY NEED THE EDGE OF IT!!1!
Fucking yes! 🤣
I love the echo effect of Rich's voice being picked up by ALL their mics.
"Just have her be a scumbag" Jay missed an opportunity for a pretty solid Phoebe Waller-Bridge pun here
I just watched her in Indy last night and stumbled on Fleabag today. Fleabag is excellent, and she is incredibly good in it.
Idk if they even know that fleabag exists
Good. Puns are awful.
In the original Indiana Jones films he did not look at random women like they were pieces of meat. He didn't even look at Willie with interest when he first met her. Marianne was an old flame (or young flame depending how you look at it), and Elsa was an irresistible femme fatale. Indy never eyed other women, and his disinterest in his adoring female students showed he wasn't some lecherous guy.
But muh subversions!
I find it funny that the same behavior people complain about in men is seen as ideal for women.
@@andystegall7407 The people who make women characters all gross like this from some sort of perverse "feminist" a.k.a. misandrist perspective fundamentally misunderstand why those behaviors are wrong in the first place. Kathleen Kennedy isn't trying to get humans to treat each other better with compassion and respect because then she wouldn't play such a huge role in the gigantic, sketchy monster that is Disney... No, she and others like her just want to BE those creepy, powerful individuals. They don't want to change the system that incentivizes their antisocial behavior. Their philosophical beliefs suck complete ass and fail to address the real-world issues that they're supposedly tackling.
Yeah, Indy had exactly one love interest per film, and it took time to get there. His head was not on a swivel.
They actually cut that from Raiders, but it was written in that he did in fact sleep with his female students. One of them was supposed to be at his house when Marcus came to see him off before he went to Nepal.
I'd love to be in some random Wisconson movie theatre during the previews, and just hear Rich Evans busting out laughing when some ridiculous giant animal movie preview comes on
Why do I find the musings of three middle-aged Wisconsinites more entertaining than the actual films they’re discussing
Because these middle-age men actually have something to say.
Exactly!
I almost never see the movies they talk about. But they're just so damn entertaining!
Because they almost exclusively talk about movies that suck.
Para social relationship free
Because none of them report to Kathleen Kennedy.
Fun Fact: When Helena punched Indiana unconscious, she actually killed him. He was already weak from being shot and she just finished him off. The rest of the movie is the last of his brain firing up an hallucination. That's why he's suddenly home seeing his close friend, and also that rather unpleasant woman that he's been traveling with. He's suddenly back together with Marion, his one true love. As his brain blinks out and he succumbs to death, he reaches for his hat, a representation of his long and unfulfilled life. Once she knocks him out, the rest is just a brain death dream.
This would explain why Indy is apparently no longer wanted for a double murder at the end.
That would be too clever for these terrible writers though.
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A Writer: pitches that same exact thing.
Disney: "Naw. Makes too much sense."
Phoebe,that you?
LOL! I lost it when they showed a picture of the Monkeys instead of the Beatles. These reviews are so entertaining. Thanks guys!
I enjoyed spotting which actors in the prologue were going to survive and be seen again in the present day (as they were de-aged), and which ones I knew would die and not be seen again as they were not de-aged.
I actually couldn't tell with Mads Mikkelsen, I thought he was proper dead lol
When leaving the theater we noticed the sign said “Indiana Jon”. Harrison Ford was totally “Indiana Jon” in this movie.
HAHAHAHA LMFAO!
The "cancelled streaming show" multiverse could actually be a really fun premise.
I can't believe Rich Evans aged 30 years between Indiana Jones movies....
Mike must be ecstatic.
It's not the years honey it's the AAAAAIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDSSSSSSS!
Elderly Rich Evans is Mike's true love
A CGI de-aged Rich Evans is coming, I just know it.
@@matthewbowen5841 Why would they ruin his sex appeal like that though?
@@stevenlannister184 Don't worry, it'll just be for a Showbiz Pizza flashback scene.
Jay knowing about the Grimace shake and telling his friends about it is so fucking funny
its also funny that he is literally right about Zoomers watching it instead of this movie. Like that is the competition.
Jay is a hip cat. He's home with the downies.
@@khaoscero tbh the Grimace meme is much smarter than most things Hollywood/Disney shits out these days.
It's a G-rated but still dark modification on "this edible ain't shi-"
As the youngest, (45) Jay is more dialed into internet trends.
40:08 Wooow, you guys have no idea how insanely nostalgic it is for me to see this footage. No Brand Con was the first convention I ever went to by myself, didn't even know RLM was attending until years later. Not only did I meet my husband there, but that hotel has since been demolished and replaced with a hospital... which my daughter was born in. ❤
Seeing Mike fall in that artist alley that no longer exists evokes really powerful memories for me.
That’s honestly pretty cool
that’s so sweet
This means that Mike Stoklasa owns your marriage and your offspring. And sooner or later, he will collect...
I got the impression that Mike, Jay and Rich had more fun talking about the grimace shake than the movie
Jay calling Hitler signing Indy's diary "cute" is everything
"Danke for the chuckles!" is what it said. Maybe.
the scene( as books that have been removed from various previously acceptable curriculum )
• largely noticed by much younger YT 'reactors' powering through the first 4 Films •
. . . commenting about the current climate & that this nation creeps eerily close to 30s post WW I Europe
@@noHOPEof why would you phrase this in such an unintelligible way
also that was mike
@@noHOPEofChatGPT is that you?
Yes, a female Indiana Jones, a woman archeologist who seeks out ancient items, fighting off the bad guys while doing it. What would you call her?.....
Laura Croft. You'd call her Laura Croft.
Except Lara Croft is gorgeous and likeable
By "gorgeous" you mean she has huge... tracts of land?
@nicholasvinen I read your comment, and now, I just wanna......SING!.......
Why do people keep calling her Laura? Is it a meme I’m out of the loop on?
@@jame2433 cause honestly I think most people rarely ever see "Lara" spelled like that. I know more Lauras than I do Laras myself
I took Indy chanting “Hell No We Won’t Go” as him trying to get the attention of the other protestors to help him as he’s being carried away by The Man, and they would jump in and help “one of their own”. I agree that it was poorly done but this was my interpretation.
That was my thought but then absolutely nothing happened and it went nowhere so there was no point in even including it. Which was most of the scenes in the film.
Thought the very same
My interpretation is that Indy just wanted to protest for a second because of mutt dying in Vietnam. Whatever they were going for it was weirdly executed.
I thought that was really clear. If someone was confused watching it then they weren’t engaging their brain and must’ve been half in the bag.
Yeah I thought he was trying to incite a riot. Then nothing happened. Did you notice the horseback cop he called out for help for too? The cop just walks away out of frame while Indy is yelling at him & he just steals the horse, cop nowhere in sight? 😂
The best part of Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny was that it was a double feature: the first 20 minutes was the Polar Express and then you got a Geriatric Indiana Jones film! What more could anyone ask for!
I can't get over how "part time" still lives rent free in their heads, 15 years later.
In truth the movie take is horrible. The take from the trailer nailed the line.
That wasn't 15 years ago, that was only 2008. Which is like 8 years ago according to my coping mechanisms.
@@esotericVideos2008 was 5 years ago and it will stay 5 years ago forever damnit
it's the go-to example of a bad line reading. Like The Room or whatever is a go-to for bad movies.
Yeah, ironically, the line, 'part-time' has been a full-time career for Mike, and he's been working over-time.
Rich Evans' laugh echoing through time is something that has visited me in my nightmares.
Get that man to the Dionysus cave pronto!
I wasn't expecting Harrison Ford to come to the podcast a hug Rich. What a wonderful episode guys
I imagined that Archimedes was going to be some guy from modern times who invented time travel and became Archimedes once they discovered that his body had a watch
Mike being the originator of the Grimace Shake bit is everything lol
He sent JJ upon us for the Sequels, but he also gave us the Grimace Shake. Verily I say unto thee, the Mike giveth, and the Mike taketh away.
It's like poetry.
@@randomfools808it rhymes?
like the Harlem shake?
@@stellviahohenheim No, that was filthy frank
Don't you just love how in an hour long review of this film that Mike, Jay and Rich only bring up fake Short Round once and never again. A perfect encapsulation of his impact on the movie.
He chewed a heat-resistant bubblegum.
They had a fake short round? Why? The guy who actually played short round seemed like he would’ve been ecstatic to play him again.
For real why wouldn't they get real short round didn't the guy win an Oscar
@@scottfitzpatrick1939 Because Indy 5 and Everything Everywhere were shooting at the same time. The actor wasn't even available.
Mike is 100% right that the subversive opening scene would have been so much more fun to watch than what we got.
Hearing that John Williams music play while Indiana Jones is late for work would have been a perfect opening for an action movie with an 80-year-old protagonist. Mike is too good at inventing better movies on the spot.
That would have been great, and then made the subsequent ramp-up to his usual adventures more dramatic.
It would have disarmed a lot of the criticism about his age with good humour.
In the future I hope to see an in depth documentary into how bad the fumbles behind the scenes at Disney have REALLY been. Had Star Wars and Indiana Jones and all there own iconic properties and managed to make every single thing just terrible. It's actually really damn impressive.
Because nobody who made them originally is still there and they've all already been run into the ground. They're just putting out big budget fan fic.
A majority of Star Wars content since the Disney purchase has been good. Rise of Skywalker and Rogue One are the worst things by far. Andor and the first season of the Mandalorian are incredible Star Wars media pieces.
@@viktorceder4985 - I'll agree on The Mandalorian until Season 3. That was really bad. I was also not fond of Luke's cameo at the end of Season 2, especially since the additional scenes with him and Grogu in TBoBF lead to absolutely nothing. It would have been slightly better if instead of Luke, it had been some other Jedi. Of course, this still wouldn't solve the issue of how Grogu leaving Din turns out to be a non-event because he returns SO quickly. For me, Mando was over once they blew up the Razor Crest. No more bounty hunting, no more new locations and new characters. It's become the next season of Clone Wars. If I'd seen Clone Wars, I suppose might be more excited, but the writing and direction are awful. Andor was terrific, I just wish Diego's Luna's performance wasn't so restrained. Hopefully, they can make him more expressive in the second season. I could watch Stellan Skarsgard stare mournfully into the distance all day long, but Diego just doesn't have that special something that works for me when he does it.
@@viktorceder4985😂
@@viktorceder4985 No, it hasn't. And if you think it has, you are the problem. Shit man, let's be real: Star Wars hasn't been good since Empire. Even Jedi was pretty trash and mostly functions on nostalgia, nevermind what a trainwreck the prequel trilogy or that absolute crime against humanity that was the sequel trilogy.
All the Star Wars content now just feels derivative, disconnected from its origin, its ethos tired and shown a thousand times over to be rhetorical drivel for (adult) kiddos, the content itself akin to lil bits of the rotted corpse of a horse that's been dead for almost 40 years and been being beaten for at least half, which was never even a horse to begin with and really more of a horse-shaped amalgam of stolen ideas and advertisements for cheap plastic children's toys.
I mean this with as little offense as I can muster, but if you like this garbage, you have bad taste, and are one of the wellsprings of this glut of trashpile media we've been getting.
I liked the part where Indiana Jones made a conscious decision that his son should remain dead.
No he didn’t as The Dial never really did time travel to anywhere as it was only to Archimede’s time that was the whole point
@@kyloren1014no, they went back to Syracuse because the calculations didn’t take into account “continental drift”. The dial doesn’t *only* go back to that date. Where did you get that idea?
@@sampedder98 from the movie it is stated that is what happened Archimedes called for help and they showed up remember in the puppet play of the battle there were dragons
@@sampedder98 Indy was bullshitting them. At around 1 inch per year, Continental drift would've shifted the coordinates about a football field's distance over 2000k years, which is unnoticeable when you're flying an airplane, and negligible even when you're on foot.
“Yeah, fuck Shia LaBeouf, I never liked him.”
I love how Rich's audio was doubled for most of this video. His voice should ALWAYS sound like some reverberating, god-like being who is above us all.... as, that is what he is.
That’s just how he sounds, they just forgot to edit it this time to sound normal like they always do.
He’s strong and powerful
The Stentorian Imperator
I've been anticipating this since the movie was announced.
Same
I actually laughed at the bit where he smacks the big goon with the peace sign. Like, hitting him with a peace sign is kind of funny, but the fact that the peace sign was made of flimsy cardboard and just limply splashes across the goon's chest was also visually funny.