I've never used gaming laptops from these companies but I opted for the HP Dragonfly as the choice of laptop for our users at my company and it is absolutely fantastic. I couldn't be happier with it.
I've been seeing a lot of bad talk of last year's HP Omen model lately. I thought HP Omen's were one of the better options? A few months back when I was in the market for a new laptop I was actually considering an HP Omen with an RTX 3070, but went with my 2022 Legion 5i with a 3060 140w/i7 12700H combo instead. They were priced about the same. It's been about 4 months and I couldn't be happier with my choice but I didn't know HP had these sorts of issues.
@@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams one of fans on my HP omen went out and I had less than a month left on the warranty. I contacted the customer service and my experience was very smooth. They helped me out right away and sent the replacement unit the next day.
I got this laptop a couple months ago in India at an insane price of 100k INR (1234 USD) mainly because of AE features, battery life, VRAM and ofc performance. Excellent laptop, I do agree about the hinge that's the only downside to this laptop from my experience with it, thankfully it's not a deal-breaker at all. Good review, although a few points: (1) 6650M's TGP is 120W not 111W, and it actually goes well beyond that because of "Smarkshift Max", I've seen it get 134W while playing Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition, 134W is the highest I've seen yet, no idea of the actual limit. (2) Your battery life results seem a bit off as I regularly get 9 hours with normal use (web browsing etc), although I do use Edge instead (Chrome is known to eat battery life) and I set the display to 60hz on battery. (3) There are keyboard lighting effects in a app inside the Omen gaming hub called "Light studio" (4) And you forgot to mention an important feature called "Smart Access Graphics" its basically an auto MUX which changes the primary GPU on the fly according to your needs. It works really well on my unit, although some have reported problems with it look that up if you're interested, mine works fine no problems.
I have the Legion 7 2022, which is also an AMD Advantage laptop. And I got 8 hours on it with light use (obviously with the screen at lower brightness and at 60 hz, but also with the RGB off and the system on Quiet mode). Though there's no Smart Access Graphics, my laptop still has a standard MUX switch, but it requires a reboot and about a 1 minute wait before it starts to boot up again.
@@superkoopatrooper4879 the problem is that's only in US, in India that laptop goes for like 2k USD 😂 I was actually gonna get that laptop from US from my brother but found this in India for cheaper so I just got it. No worries about warrenty, parts and whatnot.
I have the same model. i bought it for 1200$. But with a QHD display. Hinges are wobbly. But it doesn't wobble if you don't do action like in the video. In everyday use like gaming, typing , it has no wobble.
I got mine and have been staying with it for working and gaming daily. Actually, it a budget-friendly, well-quality built and has no compromising in terms of performance.
I had the previous model and was a nightmare, a bunch of conflicts with drivers, windows crashes, problems with the battery and performance, no support (a 2021 model) and weird thermal problems, now I have a big chunk
Kind of have to wonder, at least a little, about something you said. "No support" What does that mean? I ask because as far as I am aware, HP is not a fly-by-night company. They've been around for a short time now, like 30 years? What did HP do? Refuse to even talk to you?
@@jimmyrichards5595 in December, i hard reset the PC, with a clean windows 10 installation. When I go to the site looking for drivers, the page couldn't find any, keep in loading, until this day. I let a driver booster download some of them, but the crashes are stupidly dense
I had to disassemble my HP Pavilion 15 gaming laptop to tighten up the hinge, it had the same exact problem, display was so wobbly and loose that it was almost a separated part from the rest of the laptop lol But problem is that its 2018 model and its lower tier lineup compared to Omen, its basically a budget omen laptop and they releasing an Omen laptop in 2022 with hinges like these is just extremely unacceptable
@@iBeast_M0de I was too lazy to do it more times, even tho it got loose again after some time but I already got a new laptop after 3 years of using HP. Its still on my desk as a secondary device and its like super wobbly now, if I was still using that heavily I would definitely do the process again. I have no idea what they are thinking when they keep releasing such a dumb hinges after years have passed
I tried HP 2 times, the first with the envy line and Ryzen 5700u, that laptop had multiple issues including but not limited to. - finger print sensor failing, fans failing, multiple windows reinstalls, screen swap due to touch screen malfunction, malfunctions were so long they eventually have my like 8-900$ credit and I bought the 2nd HP laptop, a HP 15z-en100 with a Ryzen 5600h and 100 watt rtx 3060, 144hz 1920*1080 display, decent keyboard etc. This laptop had a whole motherboard swap due to it not reading ram correctly and then the touch pad had to be replaced due to them tightening the screws so tight as to break the mount and then the touch pad wobbled only being held in by however other many points. The fans also failed, otherwise it was fine but WTF HP
I have the exact same omen 15 with 5600h and 100 watt rtx 3060. How long did it take for your fans to die? Did warranty cover that? Cause my fans are starting to make a lot of coil whine noise and it has me a bit on edge, even though I haven't had this laptop for even a year yet...
I have this laptop and found out it has 1RX16 (single rank x 16) ram installed. Saw a video on Linus tech tips showing how much that ram bottle necks the AMD CPU. Replaced the ram with 64gb 2RX8 (dual rank X 8) and it had improved the performance on it. Not so much 64gb but the 2RX8 has sped it up and frame rate is even higher now. 1RX16 is cheap memory that some manufacturers have installed on AMD laptops and end up capping performance which makes Intel look good.
I've got the i7-12700H with the 3060, 2560x1440 165Hz refresh, and I love it! Got it on sale at best buy for $1250 and I think it was well worth the buy. Use it for gaming and school on the daily and it beats the brakes off my old desktop build :) EDIT: Pretty sure I've got the 2021 model but nonetheless, it does everything I need it to do without breaking the bank.
A buddy of mine recently managed to get his hands on this exact laptop for a staggering $799.99 from Best Buy. Buying "last-gen" when it comes to laptops is definitely the way to go (unless you're loaded and can afford the newer stuff with all the bells and whistles).
One big issue for me with the Omen design is the sharp edge on the front, but besides my opinions were positive. I like the keyboard, the trackpad, and the screen.
I got the Lenovo Thinkbook 16p gen 3 with R7 6800H and RTX 3060 with 400nit Ips 165hz only for 1379$, not a gaming laptop but a well rounded one for its price
I am not even sure about the value proposition. Gigabyte A15s with RTX 3070 has been on sale constantly for less price than this and have delivered overall better experience (performance wise). I have RTX version of OMEN and Victus and they were atrocious in terms of build quality and useability. I really liked the previous-gen Omen laptops and I don't know why took such large step backwards.
Sounds like I dodged a bullet not picking the RTX 3070 HP Omen I wanted to buy at first 4 months ago. Bought my Legion 5i w/RTX 3060 140w/12700H instead. They were priced about the same.
I've been interested in getting a 3070 laptop if not a 3060. I have seen a Lenovo Legion 5 pro (gen 7 which is 2022) with a rtx 3060 and 2TB of Storage but I've heard some stuff about the Gigabyte aorus models and how some people have mixed experiences. I've seen a Gigabyte aorus 15.6 model around $1169 with a 3070 and an i7 12 gen with 512gb of storage and 16gb of DDR 4 ram. Which would you recommend for someone who wants a good laptop that would last them quite a while and it's gonna be their first gaming laptop who may also do a little editing and streaming on top of gaming?
@@Solokid404 Hello, 6 months ago I bought a Legion 5 with a ryzen 5600h and an rtx 3050 ti (adjusted budget), I can only be more satisfied, since then almost daily 8 hours of work and long gaming sessions, I updated it with 32gb ram and a 1tb SSD, when I opened it to install the above written, I realized that it is a little different from the other laptops, it has good heatsinks, factory thermalpads for the SSDs and even a square heatsink for the ram memories. Totally recommended. So far without problems of any kind, neither with drivers, nor with temperatures
I got the 2021 version with 5800h and 3070 for 1100 usd, for the hardware you are getting its a pretty good deal because in my country, other laptops with 3070 costs more than 1600, in my real world usage, the hinge doesnt really bother me that much but the cooling performance is not that good, the gpu and cpu temps are, 95c cpu and 77c gpu while running a demanding game, and the fans are quite loud, battery life is normal for a gaming laptop but the cpu power budget is not that high in synthetic benchmark, only given 55w max at 3.5ghz all core so the cinebench score is quite low at around 11.500, and the AMD version doesnt have a mux switch.
@@blasianking4827 thats why i said the cooling performance is not that good, GPU temps is fine but probably need to replace the thermal paste with honeywell ptm for the CPU, and yeah the fans wont be that disturbing since mostly people would use a headset while gaming. I just kinda dissapointed with HP software, so much bloatware and the OMEN Gaming Hub is kinda lacking in features.
if there is no smart power management in this laptop you can try limiting cpu power at 45W and/or undervolting. performance loss should be minimal while good temp drops. Even if temp max out at least it'll run at higher freq. i have intel cpu so i use thorttlestop app for full cpu control .
@@rayoMk17 i usually disabled the CPU boost clock so the CPU doesnt get hot, it usually doesnt have much performance impact to the games i play and ryzen 5000 series doesn't support undervolting unfortunately.
@@fahrikakaI'd recommend trying temp limit/power limit rather than boost limits...as it'll still allow CPU to boost when there is enough thermal headroom
Ive been looking for a review for this specific model. Wasnt able to find anything but last years processor until this video!! I feel way better knowing i paid $750 USD a week ago from best buy. Open Box item but it did come with original box and charger. No damages. I love it so far. im a fan of AMD CPU but this is my first time using their GPU. Again, love it so far. I dont game with ray tracing or anything crazy, just shooting and racing games and it does wonders.
I have a similar model, same CPU, chassis and I/O, but with an Nvidia 3060 GPU. I have encountered one problem with it, which was rather strange. The network card can "unplug" itself if you set the laptop too hard on a table, or aren't careful when carrying it in a bag By putting the laptop hard on a table I don't mean to drop it, I put one side on a table and the other slipped out of my hand and the laptop dropped like 2 centimetres, and that was enough to disconnect the network card. To fix the issue, simply press on connectors and it will start working again, otherwise you won't have the internet and Bluetooth. Happened to me twice already in the last four months or so. It's good that they give an option to change the network card with this iteration, since it was soldered with the previous model.
Just got this laptop a week ago for $800 off best buy. Will say battery life isn't the best but overall performance for on the go is great. Overall is great so far and its actually very quite.
I like what they did with the ports. It’s makes more sense to me than the Legion. Power HDMI and USBC in the back for dongles. I would like to see Ethernet in the back as well. All I want on the sides are USBA and 3.5mm. I also like how they manages to squeeze the ports on the side in behind the vents so the wires are right up against your hands.
Actually, the Legion 7 has ports on the back too. Sure, I wish the 2022 Legion 7 had a USB-A port on the sides, but I think it's port selection is better than the Omen. I mean, it has 2.5 gb ethernet facing the way where you don't have to lift the laptop to unplug it (which they broke again on the 2023 model) and even the AMD model has USB4. Not many AMD laptop have it, and I can confirm my Legion 7 came with it out of the box.
@@cameronbosch1213 Yeah, I like my Legion 7. I maxed it out with 64GB of RAM (From Crucial)instead of the listed limit of 32. Also packed in 2 Two 2TB NVMEs from Crucial.
@@joepianta Mine has 64 GB of RAM added, a new Intel AX210 Wi-Fi card added (the MediaTek Wi-Fi card in my unit was a very bad one), a 1 TB primary SSD for Windows that came with that laptop, and an 8 TB SSD for Linux added.
@Kanaba Nakamura I liked how this Omen has USB-C in the back instead of the sides. And the ports on the side of the Omen are behind the vents not in front so they aren't in the way of your mouse hand. Very minor details...but the Legion is a better machine in every other way, I just didn't like the ports. Same thing bothered me about the Legion Slim 7, ThinkBook 16p, G15, and M16.
Just got this laptop, fucking amazing honestly. Playing cyberpunk at all settings ultra and ray tracing and I easily get 60+ fps . It’s absolutely perfect. Mines the Ryzen 9 and 4070 version
Razer Blade 17/18 2022/2023 has some kick ass speakers. So does the past few Asus ROG Strix Scar laptops (not the Strix models, the Strix Scar higher tier models). Though I agree that most laptop speakers aren't amazing, most people will probably use headphones on a gaming laptop.
@Pedro I have a 2022 Legion 7 (that's also AMD Advantage) with an AMD Ryzen 6800H & an AMD Radeon RX 6700M GPU. It has better build quality, a 16:10 2560x1600 165 hz fast response time 500 nits screen with a MUX switch (no Smart Access Graphics though, so a reboot is necessary) and the laptop also has USB4. I think the 2022 Legion 7 & 7i were the gaming laptops of the year. Now it looks like Lenovo broke things that were fine (like the ports and design) and didn't change things that needed to be changed (like the screen being the same as 2021 except for a 240 hz refresh rate rather than 165 hz).
@@vladimirljubopytnov5193 Good point! I actually noticed the DELETE being above BACKSPACE, which by itself can make sense (in text editors it works like backspace, but removes characters from the other side). However, since it's TKL-ish layout - not so much anymore. PRINT SCREEN is also moved (in place of PAUSE/BREAK) in favor of proprietary/branded button (which is most likely useless) and what it looks like a calculator key (which does what? opens calculator? pls). Not to mention power button location is potentially prone to misclick.
i had the 2060 i7 10th 2020 version, i had to RMA it twice because my R and X key did not work and the gaming hub is utter trash, they also power throttle the cpu to 25watts and always getting 3.1ghz in games with constant stutters till i fixed the wattage, never buying from HP again
In Canada you can get the Asus G14 (ryzen 9 6900HS CPU, 6800S GPU, 1TB SSD, 2560x1600 display) for $1999 Canadian which is around $1500 USD. For $200 more than the omen you get a device with a better cpu, ever so slightly better GPU, higher Rez screen, higher refresh rate, 16x10 display, lighter , smaller, and better battery life. What's the point of the omen lol
I had the HP omen 15 with ryzen 7 4800h and the 1660ti. Was a great laptop got it for $650 used at my local disc replay. Don't buy new stop e waste and get it used somewhere where you're safe. Just upgraded to the 5900hx w/6800M ROG Strix G15 Advantage for $930. Used of course.
I bought this for about 1800 AUD..for the price the value it offers is just amazing. It's a beast when it comes to power and battery is 5 hours I would say while doing office works .. switching off RGB. The display is very good and I am getting above 130fps in apex at ultra settings and 60 - 70 fps in assassin creed Odyssey..at highest graphics.. just wow.
How are temperatures of cpu and gpu looking in Apex like when max performance mode? And are there any issues in general like frame drops due to Amd drivers?
@@dangerguy27 the keyboard section gets abit warm ..but nothing more than that. The frame rate drops from 144 to 130 when there is too much action however it's very minimal. The fps doesn't drop too much.
@Desi Boi yeah I faced that issue. So I figured the windows update doesn't update your graphic card drivers to the latest version so you have to manually update the driver by visiting the amd website after that there was no issue. The screen wobbling issue is also gone.
I got an Omen 17 with GTX 1080. This laptop has been nothing but a nightmare. Mechanical keyboard failed twice. First time covered under warranty, second time they wanted to charge me $750 shipping included. Running super hot during games and constantly thermal throtling. Stay away from HP products.
I have immediately recognized my laptop lol. I've got myself intel 12700H version with rtx 3060. Unofficially IT SUPPORTS 64GB of ram, so I upgraded it with 2x32GB sticks of Crucial DDR5 4800 RAM and also put my 2TB crucial nvme drive, as it does have 2 nvme slots. It was on sale on black friday for 1300€ on amazon. Very nice laptop.
@@ubaidh66 Yes it does. It says so in the spec sheet on hp website. Intel 12700H is officially supporting up to 32GB, but in reality it works with 64Gb installed, in bios it says 0 though.
@@GoBlue-iv2tu i got it 2 weeks ago too, but i only upgrade it to 32, not worth it to upgrade it to 64. The gpu is not that good, gaming diablo 4, medium, 1440p only give me 62fps! less than rtx 3060 6Vram
Are you sure that the G14 comes with 2560×1600? I've seen contradicting information, but I got the impression that cheaper variant comes with 1920×1200 and the more expensive one can do with 2560×1600. If you are looking for AMD+AMD laptop - consider Lenovo Legion 7 Gen 7 as well, though it's availability is as poor as this OMEN's. Anyway, G14 looks like better product than OMEN overall.
There's really something appealing about the keyboard on the omen laptops since ~2020 It looks more or less like a desktop tkl keyboard. Not that common on laptops
Do you mean Windows 11 actually reduce battery life a lot? For me Win 11 issue is more related to stability, keeps getting DPC watchdog violation for no clear reason
The rx 6650m seems more good and also the more Vram makes it more future proof.. ofcourse the Nvidia DLSS is better, it depends on what TGP the rtx 3060 you mentioned runs on. And just so you know the rx6650m runs at 100-120W TGP and the 3060 ranges anywhere from 60w to 115w depending on the tgp the performance varies significantly and also the omen 16 has a mux switch which improves gaming drastically. So unless the 3060 is a higher TGP one and ray tracing doesnt matter all that to you (Nvidia performs a little better in this field) I would say the Omen 16 is more bang for bucks..
Unfortunately the 2023 models still features the same design as the past few years. Wished they redesigned it a tad more. Maybe in H2 if they suddenly decided to feel generous.
This is on sale for $750 - $799 today only at Best Buy…THEN if you buy the 1 year BestBuy membership for $50…you get $100 off of that $799…you can cancel this after. So this laptop can be had for $750 TODAY ONLY Normally I stay away from the HP or Dells…but for $750!?!? Yes please. I grabbed one today.
Hey! Would you recommend this right now over a TUF A15 (RTX4050). Im getting the omen for about $1082 while the A15 is for $1142. But the A15 has a much bigger 90Wh battery. I believe the A15 doesn't have that wobbly screen issue.
I had a 2019 HP Omen RTX 2060. At the time it was one of the cheapest bang for buck Laptop in my market. I pulled the trigger and bought it. Few months in, the laptop died. Brought it in to the service centre. They said the motherboard was the problem. They switched it out and it was fixed. Not too long after the fix, i found that whenever i fully drained the battery. When i turn it on, as it charges. The wifi could not connect. I checked everything with the drivers and couldnt find a fix. Only fix was letting it charge to 100%. Then it would work again. There were also some thermal problems here and there. I dont think i will buy a HP again. Traumatised by it. But it could be just my laptop. Maybe someone else had same issues with me.
Good video, it seems to me to be a good, not excellent laptop, I agree with the hinges that continue with the same problem from last year and the day before, but I'm surprised that you bought the model with a 165hz screen with better quality since it was a claim what did you do last year to see how the resolution was, I think that a perfect laptop will not exist, it's just that you should find a suitable laptop for each person, personally I love the subtle design of HP OMEN I also like the Legion for the keyboard I don't like the Legion, I don't like the hinge on the HP, but for my taste I lean more towards the HP but with a 165 screen
Man I got a HP Omen 16 with a 12700H and 3070 for $1500, and for that money I saw a Gigabite AERO 4k display, 12700h CPU and a 3070 Ti on Amazon. So this have to be way cheaper to really be consider hehe.
This one seems ok, but for some dumb reason at the lower price points, the manufacturers, are only shipping units with one memory stick, installed, on AMD/Radeon based systems. I guess they don't understand the importance of dual channel.
The Asus ROG strix g15 advantage edition is the best deal for amd gaming laptop by far. I really wish amd could get more laptop vendors to use their gpus
Sorry, not giving HP a shot ever again. HP and Dell haven't got anything good and their treatment of the customers is the absolute worst.
I've never used gaming laptops from these companies but I opted for the HP Dragonfly as the choice of laptop for our users at my company and it is absolutely fantastic. I couldn't be happier with it.
Agreed!
Lenovo or Asus for the win❤️
I've been seeing a lot of bad talk of last year's HP Omen model lately. I thought HP Omen's were one of the better options? A few months back when I was in the market for a new laptop I was actually considering an HP Omen with an RTX 3070, but went with my 2022 Legion 5i with a 3060 140w/i7 12700H combo instead. They were priced about the same. It's been about 4 months and I couldn't be happier with my choice but I didn't know HP had these sorts of issues.
@@aninfinitemindofmusicandreams one of fans on my HP omen went out and I had less than a month left on the warranty. I contacted the customer service and my experience was very smooth. They helped me out right away and sent the replacement unit the next day.
I got this laptop a couple months ago in India at an insane price of 100k INR (1234 USD) mainly because of AE features, battery life, VRAM and ofc performance. Excellent laptop, I do agree about the hinge that's the only downside to this laptop from my experience with it, thankfully it's not a deal-breaker at all.
Good review, although a few points:
(1) 6650M's TGP is 120W not 111W, and it actually goes well beyond that because of "Smarkshift Max", I've seen it get 134W while playing Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition, 134W is the highest I've seen yet, no idea of the actual limit.
(2) Your battery life results seem a bit off as I regularly get 9 hours with normal use (web browsing etc), although I do use Edge instead (Chrome is known to eat battery life) and I set the display to 60hz on battery.
(3) There are keyboard lighting effects in a app inside the Omen gaming hub called "Light studio"
(4) And you forgot to mention an important feature called "Smart Access Graphics" its basically an auto MUX which changes the primary GPU on the fly according to your needs. It works really well on my unit, although some have reported problems with it look that up if you're interested, mine works fine no problems.
I have the Legion 7 2022, which is also an AMD Advantage laptop. And I got 8 hours on it with light use (obviously with the screen at lower brightness and at 60 hz, but also with the RGB off and the system on Quiet mode).
Though there's no Smart Access Graphics, my laptop still has a standard MUX switch, but it requires a reboot and about a 1 minute wait before it starts to boot up again.
That came with 512gb SSD, it's going for 107k on Flipkart right now
@@superkoopatrooper4879 the problem is that's only in US, in India that laptop goes for like 2k USD 😂
I was actually gonna get that laptop from US from my brother but found this in India for cheaper so I just got it. No worries about warrenty, parts and whatnot.
good buy. I found a 2021 Zephyrus g15 with a 5900HS and a 3060 for 1.20.
Good call on the MUX switch, an important feature that's often missing on laptops. Even on higher end ones.
this exact laptop is on best buy for $800 currently in their black friday in july sale. seems like a really good buy.
I was thinking of buying it too, it’s a very good deal
i literally just bought it that’s why i’m watching this video rn😂
@@andrew-ey9yw same lmaoooo
Lol same! If your a best buy subscription you save an extra $100. Got it for $700
I am very close to buying it for 800 and hence watching this videos. Those who bought recently, should I go for it?
I have the same model. i bought it for 1200$. But with a QHD display. Hinges are wobbly. But it doesn't wobble if you don't do action like in the video. In everyday use like gaming, typing , it has no wobble.
I got mine and have been staying with it for working and gaming daily. Actually, it a budget-friendly, well-quality built and has no compromising in terms of performance.
I had the previous model and was a nightmare, a bunch of conflicts with drivers, windows crashes, problems with the battery and performance, no support (a 2021 model) and weird thermal problems, now I have a big chunk
But Good quality chasis 🥰
@@suspeh dont forget high high dcp latencies
@@superrafy9415 Name a good laptop with good DPC latencies.
Kind of have to wonder, at least a little, about something you said.
"No support"
What does that mean? I ask because as far as I am aware, HP is not a fly-by-night company. They've been around for a short time now, like 30 years? What did HP do? Refuse to even talk to you?
@@jimmyrichards5595 in December, i hard reset the PC, with a clean windows 10 installation. When I go to the site looking for drivers, the page couldn't find any, keep in loading, until this day. I let a driver booster download some of them, but the crashes are stupidly dense
I had to disassemble my HP Pavilion 15 gaming laptop to tighten up the hinge, it had the same exact problem, display was so wobbly and loose that it was almost a separated part from the rest of the laptop lol
But problem is that its 2018 model and its lower tier lineup compared to Omen, its basically a budget omen laptop and they releasing an Omen laptop in 2022 with hinges like these is just extremely unacceptable
Have had to do that 4 times in 6 years with my HP Omen laptop
@@iBeast_M0de I was too lazy to do it more times, even tho it got loose again after some time but I already got a new laptop after 3 years of using HP. Its still on my desk as a secondary device and its like super wobbly now, if I was still using that heavily I would definitely do the process again.
I have no idea what they are thinking when they keep releasing such a dumb hinges after years have passed
@@META313. seems like they’re saving money. But I don’t get it, there’s gotta be better ways
Man this laptop is not even reviewed by anyone
I searched a lot🥴
Thanks for covering
I tried HP 2 times, the first with the envy line and Ryzen 5700u, that laptop had multiple issues including but not limited to. - finger print sensor failing, fans failing, multiple windows reinstalls, screen swap due to touch screen malfunction, malfunctions were so long they eventually have my like 8-900$ credit and I bought the 2nd HP laptop, a HP 15z-en100 with a Ryzen 5600h and 100 watt rtx 3060, 144hz 1920*1080 display, decent keyboard etc. This laptop had a whole motherboard swap due to it not reading ram correctly and then the touch pad had to be replaced due to them tightening the screws so tight as to break the mount and then the touch pad wobbled only being held in by however other many points. The fans also failed, otherwise it was fine but WTF HP
Can you elaborate on fans dying? I have HP Pavilion from 2020, and after some months it started turning fans in and out at like 100% (loud enough).
I work in IT and Intel HPs are so durable. DONT EVER BUY AN ACER 😭😭
@@SirRFI fans wouldn't reach max rpm, sounded like they were screiching like mechanically
I have the exact same omen 15 with 5600h and 100 watt rtx 3060. How long did it take for your fans to die? Did warranty cover that? Cause my fans are starting to make a lot of coil whine noise and it has me a bit on edge, even though I haven't had this laptop for even a year yet...
i have a old hp for some reason it gets too hot and throtle even this has 15w i3 5005u
I have this laptop and found out it has 1RX16 (single rank x 16) ram installed. Saw a video on Linus tech tips showing how much that ram bottle necks the AMD CPU. Replaced the ram with 64gb 2RX8 (dual rank X 8) and it had improved the performance on it. Not so much 64gb but the 2RX8 has sped it up and frame rate is even higher now. 1RX16 is cheap memory that some manufacturers have installed on AMD laptops and end up capping performance which makes Intel look good.
Extensive, but fast and clear review! Congrats!
God if this had a 16 : 10 screen I would pick this up immediately. Maybe next year.
Look for the asus tuf 16 advantage model. I think it will be available soon.
Never have a HP ever again Sent it back after 3 months for repair and the same problem came back after 16 months
It's really impressive that Region 7 slim with 6800S can perform that good with just 90W.
I've got the i7-12700H with the 3060, 2560x1440 165Hz refresh, and I love it! Got it on sale at best buy for $1250 and I think it was well worth the buy. Use it for gaming and school on the daily and it beats the brakes off my old desktop build :)
EDIT: Pretty sure I've got the 2021 model but nonetheless, it does everything I need it to do without breaking the bank.
I love Intel 7 12700h 😞
@@retrogamer847 me also bro
Rtx 3060 sucks tho
A buddy of mine recently managed to get his hands on this exact laptop for a staggering $799.99 from Best Buy. Buying "last-gen" when it comes to laptops is definitely the way to go (unless you're loaded and can afford the newer stuff with all the bells and whistles).
Snagged mine for 800 buck from best buy, I can't argue with that value!
Same lol
One big issue for me with the Omen design is the sharp edge on the front, but besides my opinions were positive. I like the keyboard, the trackpad, and the screen.
maybe it depands on hand anatomy. I have no such problems
I got the Lenovo Thinkbook 16p gen 3 with R7 6800H and RTX 3060 with 400nit Ips 165hz only for 1379$, not a gaming laptop but a well rounded one for its price
60 can definitely game
How is your experience with it? Have you tried to game on it, tho?
I've had it in my cart for a while. Seems like the best all-rounder Ultrabook. Would love to know your thoughts on the keyboard and battery life
I absolutely love that keyboard layout. real arrow keys, and page up/dn/etc. Why does no one else do that?
Never buying an HP laptop again, the cooling was so bad, the CPU always remained at 95C+ while gaming and the motherboard had to be replaced 2 times
I am not even sure about the value proposition. Gigabyte A15s with RTX 3070 has been on sale constantly for less price than this and have delivered overall better experience (performance wise). I have RTX version of OMEN and Victus and they were atrocious in terms of build quality and useability. I really liked the previous-gen Omen laptops and I don't know why took such large step backwards.
Sounds like I dodged a bullet not picking the RTX 3070 HP Omen I wanted to buy at first 4 months ago. Bought my Legion 5i w/RTX 3060 140w/12700H instead. They were priced about the same.
I've been interested in getting a 3070 laptop if not a 3060. I have seen a Lenovo Legion 5 pro (gen 7 which is 2022) with a rtx 3060 and 2TB of Storage but I've heard some stuff about the Gigabyte aorus models and how some people have mixed experiences. I've seen a Gigabyte aorus 15.6 model around $1169 with a 3070 and an i7 12 gen with 512gb of storage and 16gb of DDR 4 ram. Which would you recommend for someone who wants a good laptop that would last them quite a while and it's gonna be their first gaming laptop who may also do a little editing and streaming on top of gaming?
@@Solokid404 Hello, 6 months ago I bought a Legion 5 with a ryzen 5600h and an rtx 3050 ti (adjusted budget), I can only be more satisfied, since then almost daily 8 hours of work and long gaming sessions, I updated it with 32gb ram and a 1tb SSD, when I opened it to install the above written, I realized that it is a little different from the other laptops, it has good heatsinks, factory thermalpads for the SSDs and even a square heatsink for the ram memories. Totally recommended. So far without problems of any kind, neither with drivers, nor with temperatures
Can u give a live gaming test please please please
Wish there were more AMD+AMD / "Advantage" laptops to choose from.
Review Legion 7 Gen 7 (AMD; not Slim) next?
Jarrod's Tech will be soon! 👀
I got the 2021 version with 5800h and 3070 for 1100 usd, for the hardware you are getting its a pretty good deal because in my country, other laptops with 3070 costs more than 1600, in my real world usage, the hinge doesnt really bother me that much but the cooling performance is not that good, the gpu and cpu temps are, 95c cpu and 77c gpu while running a demanding game, and the fans are quite loud, battery life is normal for a gaming laptop but the cpu power budget is not that high in synthetic benchmark, only given 55w max at 3.5ghz all core so the cinebench score is quite low at around 11.500, and the AMD version doesnt have a mux switch.
95 is a tiny bit high for CPU but 77 is pretty good for GPU temps. Fans are gonna be loud under load, that's just what gaming laptops do.
@@blasianking4827 thats why i said the cooling performance is not that good, GPU temps is fine but probably need to replace the thermal paste with honeywell ptm for the CPU, and yeah the fans wont be that disturbing since mostly people would use a headset while gaming.
I just kinda dissapointed with HP software, so much bloatware and the OMEN Gaming Hub is kinda lacking in features.
if there is no smart power management in this laptop you can try limiting cpu power at 45W and/or undervolting. performance loss should be minimal while good temp drops. Even if temp max out at least it'll run at higher freq. i have intel cpu so i use thorttlestop app for full cpu control .
@@rayoMk17 i usually disabled the CPU boost clock so the CPU doesnt get hot, it usually doesnt have much performance impact to the games i play and ryzen 5000 series doesn't support undervolting unfortunately.
@@fahrikakaI'd recommend trying temp limit/power limit rather than boost limits...as it'll still allow CPU to boost when there is enough thermal headroom
0:45 The price went up at Best Buy US $280 in the past 24 hours.
Too many views from Hardware Canucks? :)
That low price seems still too high for the tons of compromises
Ive been looking for a review for this specific model. Wasnt able to find anything but last years processor until this video!!
I feel way better knowing i paid $750 USD a week ago from best buy. Open Box item but it did come with original box and charger. No damages. I love it so far. im a fan of AMD CPU but this is my first time using their GPU. Again, love it so far. I dont game with ray tracing or anything crazy, just shooting and racing games and it does wonders.
I have a similar model, same CPU, chassis and I/O, but with an Nvidia 3060 GPU.
I have encountered one problem with it, which was rather strange. The network card can "unplug" itself if you set the laptop too hard on a table, or aren't careful when carrying it in a bag
By putting the laptop hard on a table I don't mean to drop it, I put one side on a table and the other slipped out of my hand and the laptop dropped like 2 centimetres, and that was enough to disconnect the network card.
To fix the issue, simply press on connectors and it will start working again, otherwise you won't have the internet and Bluetooth. Happened to me twice already in the last four months or so.
It's good that they give an option to change the network card with this iteration, since it was soldered with the previous model.
Just got this laptop a week ago for $800 off best buy. Will say battery life isn't the best but overall performance for on the go is great. Overall is great so far and its actually very quite.
I like what they did with the ports. It’s makes more sense to me than the Legion. Power HDMI and USBC in the back for dongles. I would like to see Ethernet in the back as well. All I want on the sides are USBA and 3.5mm. I also like how they manages to squeeze the ports on the side in behind the vents so the wires are right up against your hands.
Actually, the Legion 7 has ports on the back too. Sure, I wish the 2022 Legion 7 had a USB-A port on the sides, but I think it's port selection is better than the Omen. I mean, it has 2.5 gb ethernet facing the way where you don't have to lift the laptop to unplug it (which they broke again on the 2023 model) and even the AMD model has USB4. Not many AMD laptop have it, and I can confirm my Legion 7 came with it out of the box.
@@cameronbosch1213 Yeah, I like my Legion 7. I maxed it out with 64GB of RAM (From Crucial)instead of the listed limit of 32. Also packed in 2 Two 2TB NVMEs from Crucial.
@Kanaba Nakamura Exactly. The 2022 Legions were awesome. Not the 2023 models.
@@joepianta Mine has 64 GB of RAM added, a new Intel AX210 Wi-Fi card added (the MediaTek Wi-Fi card in my unit was a very bad one), a 1 TB primary SSD for Windows that came with that laptop, and an 8 TB SSD for Linux added.
@Kanaba Nakamura I liked how this Omen has USB-C in the back instead of the sides. And the ports on the side of the Omen are behind the vents not in front so they aren't in the way of your mouse hand. Very minor details...but the Legion is a better machine in every other way, I just didn't like the ports.
Same thing bothered me about the Legion Slim 7, ThinkBook 16p, G15, and M16.
Just got this same laptop from bestbuy for $699 😁
Just got this laptop, fucking amazing honestly. Playing cyberpunk at all settings ultra and ray tracing and I easily get 60+ fps . It’s absolutely perfect.
Mines the Ryzen 9 and 4070 version
Asus g14 2022 is available for 1199$ now
Can you talk about the audio next time. Eg. HD, SNR DB, Max playback quality 24bit 96khz etc...
The wobbly screen is a non-starter. Many HP laptops have this problem and I don't know how reviewers haven't knocked it sooner.
Companies just need to figure out how Apple does it. No way they can be the only ones to it figure out. Come one phones have better speakers.
Razer Blade 17/18 2022/2023 has some kick ass speakers. So does the past few Asus ROG Strix Scar laptops (not the Strix models, the Strix Scar higher tier models). Though I agree that most laptop speakers aren't amazing, most people will probably use headphones on a gaming laptop.
You can buy an Asus with RX 6800M and a R9 5900HX for that price.
No MUX switch though.
where.
@@watynecc3309 bestbuy
@@watynecc3309 I was searching the link and found out that it is out of stock for now. But this price is very common for it.
@Pedro I have a 2022 Legion 7 (that's also AMD Advantage) with an AMD Ryzen 6800H & an AMD Radeon RX 6700M GPU. It has better build quality, a 16:10 2560x1600 165 hz fast response time 500 nits screen with a MUX switch (no Smart Access Graphics though, so a reboot is necessary) and the laptop also has USB4. I think the 2022 Legion 7 & 7i were the gaming laptops of the year. Now it looks like Lenovo broke things that were fine (like the ports and design) and didn't change things that needed to be changed (like the screen being the same as 2021 except for a 240 hz refresh rate rather than 165 hz).
Wish there were more laptops with TKL layout like this (aside from power button). I don't really use Numpad myself.
Razer, Zepyhrus, MSI Raider are a few options!
TKL.. but for some reason they switched delete and pause. HP are masters of idiocy, on our company HPs there is a call button instead of Insert.
@@vladimirljubopytnov5193 Good point! I actually noticed the DELETE being above BACKSPACE, which by itself can make sense (in text editors it works like backspace, but removes characters from the other side). However, since it's TKL-ish layout - not so much anymore. PRINT SCREEN is also moved (in place of PAUSE/BREAK) in favor of proprietary/branded button (which is most likely useless) and what it looks like a calculator key (which does what? opens calculator? pls). Not to mention power button location is potentially prone to misclick.
i had the 2060 i7 10th 2020 version, i had to RMA it twice because my R and X key did not work and the gaming hub is utter trash, they also power throttle the cpu to 25watts and always getting 3.1ghz in games with constant stutters till i fixed the wattage, never buying from HP again
In Canada you can get the Asus G14 (ryzen 9 6900HS CPU, 6800S GPU, 1TB SSD, 2560x1600 display) for $1999 Canadian which is around $1500 USD. For $200 more than the omen you get a device with a better cpu, ever so slightly better GPU, higher Rez screen, higher refresh rate, 16x10 display, lighter , smaller, and better battery life. What's the point of the omen lol
i kinda like how they implemented the power button, hopefully that will stay in 2023
are you being sarcastic?
@@madd5 nope
I had the HP omen 15 with ryzen 7 4800h and the 1660ti. Was a great laptop got it for $650 used at my local disc replay. Don't buy new stop e waste and get it used somewhere where you're safe. Just upgraded to the 5900hx w/6800M ROG Strix G15 Advantage for $930. Used of course.
I bought this for about 1800 AUD..for the price the value it offers is just amazing. It's a beast when it comes to power and battery is 5 hours I would say while doing office works .. switching off RGB. The display is very good and I am getting above 130fps in apex at ultra settings and 60 - 70 fps in assassin creed Odyssey..at highest graphics.. just wow.
How are temperatures of cpu and gpu looking in Apex like when max performance mode? And are there any issues in general like frame drops due to Amd drivers?
@@dangerguy27 the keyboard section gets abit warm ..but nothing more than that. The frame rate drops from 144 to 130 when there is too much action however it's very minimal. The fps doesn't drop too much.
@@vshl14vp can you tell like the cpu and gpu Temps at max fan speed?
@@dangerguy27 GPU temp is between 60 - 70 C and CPU temp is between 70 - 85 C at max.
@Desi Boi yeah I faced that issue. So I figured the windows update doesn't update your graphic card drivers to the latest version so you have to manually update the driver by visiting the amd website after that there was no issue. The screen wobbling issue is also gone.
I got an Omen 17 with GTX 1080. This laptop has been nothing but a nightmare. Mechanical keyboard failed twice. First time covered under warranty, second time they wanted to charge me $750 shipping included. Running super hot during games and constantly thermal throtling. Stay away from HP products.
It’s sad there are so little amd advantage laptops
Sounds good, great video! 👌👌
Does it have a mux switch?
Hate how all these Canadian TH-camrs won't at least put up the Canadian price of the product as well...
I have immediately recognized my laptop lol. I've got myself intel 12700H version with rtx 3060. Unofficially IT SUPPORTS 64GB of ram, so I upgraded it with 2x32GB sticks of Crucial DDR5 4800 RAM and also put my 2TB crucial nvme drive, as it does have 2 nvme slots. It was on sale on black friday for 1300€ on amazon. Very nice laptop.
does AMD RYZEN 7 6800H support 64gb drr5 ram?
@@ubaidh66 Yes it does. It says so in the spec sheet on hp website. Intel 12700H is officially supporting up to 32GB, but in reality it works with 64Gb installed, in bios it says 0 though.
how's it keeping up? Any issues?
@@cookingwithberke6053that’s what I want to know because it’s on sale at Best Buy for 799.99 rn and I’m very tempted
@@GoBlue-iv2tu i got it 2 weeks ago too, but i only upgrade it to 32, not worth it to upgrade it to 64. The gpu is not that good, gaming diablo 4, medium, 1440p only give me 62fps! less than rtx 3060 6Vram
the lack of a numpad is a no go for me
I just ordered a Lenovo 13w yoga. 2 in 1 pc with AMD 5625u, 16Gb ram, 256GB M.2 TLC Gen 4 opal SSD. Cost me $510.- its hard to complain about!
Now to see X3D 7000 series with 7000 dGPU in 17"
Came here to watch the video, read that it was an HP in the description, didn't bother watching the video.
Great overview, thank you.
The Gigabyte A5 K1 with a 3060 goes for about 900$
The Strix G15 with 6800m goes for 1300 and even 1100$
Aorus 5 with 3070 for about 1200
I've seen the location of the power button and immediatly said "No way i'm gonna buy this" wtf
Help. Buying laptop today. Which one should I buy? Comparing:
ASUS - ROG Zephyrus 14” WQXGA 120Hz Gaming Laptop - AMD Ryzen 9- 16GB DDR5 Memory - AMD Radeon RX 6700S - 1TB PCIe 4.0 SSD ($1399)
HP OMEN - AMD Advantage Edition 16.1" Gaming Laptop - AMD Ryzen 7 6800H - 16GB Memory - AMD Radeon RX 6650M - 1TB SSD - Mica Silver ($1299)
Did you take a look at the strix?
also zephyrus anyday over the omen
It's just a better laptop overall
Are you sure that the G14 comes with 2560×1600? I've seen contradicting information, but I got the impression that cheaper variant comes with 1920×1200 and the more expensive one can do with 2560×1600.
If you are looking for AMD+AMD laptop - consider Lenovo Legion 7 Gen 7 as well, though it's availability is as poor as this OMEN's. Anyway, G14 looks like better product than OMEN overall.
Please mention weights in kgs also..not all of your viewers are American
Asus ROG strix g15 advantage edition Rx 6800m strong as rtx 3070 was around 1099$ one month ago
There's really something appealing about the keyboard on the omen laptops since ~2020
It looks more or less like a desktop tkl keyboard. Not that common on laptops
Even at 1,300 id want the next gen 7600m gpu. I guess it’s ok at this price though considering ram is upgradable.
Amazing you put houdini on the benchmarks
Why would anyone mess up the TKL layout by swapping Pause and Delete?
can you do some Lenovo laptops?
This is why i returned HP Omen 17. No silent mode. You can adjust fans but boy o boy the power drops to 30W on GPU.
love that outro
awesome! I've been looking for a good AMD laptop recently.
This ain't it though. Omen series is notorious for terrible thermals, choking and noise polution issues.
@@FromDkWithLove Legion 7 2022 is probably the best one.
@@cameronbosch1213 yeah, everyone seems to agree that's where it's at.
Do you mean Windows 11 actually reduce battery life a lot?
For me Win 11 issue is more related to stability, keeps getting DPC watchdog violation for no clear reason
It's 2022 model the price should be like 1000$ not 1200$, i believe you can get an msi or asus laptop with rtx 3070 for like 1300$ those days..
I'm getting a deal on both omen 16 6650m and legion 5 3060 for around 1300usd, which one should i opt for?
The rx 6650m seems more good and also the more Vram makes it more future proof.. ofcourse the Nvidia DLSS is better, it depends on what TGP the rtx 3060 you mentioned runs on. And just so you know the rx6650m runs at 100-120W TGP and the 3060 ranges anywhere from 60w to 115w depending on the tgp the performance varies significantly and also the omen 16 has a mux switch which improves gaming drastically. So unless the 3060 is a higher TGP one and ray tracing doesnt matter all that to you (Nvidia performs a little better in this field) I would say the Omen 16 is more bang for bucks..
Came here, heard HP in the first 5 seconds, bounced…
Unfortunately the 2023 models still features the same design as the past few years. Wished they redesigned it a tad more. Maybe in H2 if they suddenly decided to feel generous.
Please, help me decide what to buy: this laptop or Asus tuf 17 all the same except rtx 3060 4gb graphics card
also got this from best buy at 800. been looking for a sup 1k laptop and this one i couldn’t pass up.
How can you not find the space for a numberpad on a 16" device?
Very nice voice and tone
This is on sale for $750 - $799 today only at Best Buy…THEN if you buy the 1 year BestBuy membership for $50…you get $100 off of that $799…you can cancel this after.
So this laptop can be had for $750 TODAY ONLY
Normally I stay away from the HP or Dells…but for $750!?!? Yes please. I grabbed one today.
That's an insane deal
Me too and also under that reasoning 😂😂😂
How did you get the $100 off? I bought the membership but price is still 799
I have seen 6800m laptops around a 1000$
For example, how many FPS do you have in games like Minecraft or GTA5?
It looks great, but is the Bios unlocked ? It's the worst thing with HP Laptops
Eluktronics let's go!
Good video, but when will the Omen 2023 version come out?
they are our now, costco is selling 1 for 1600: 13700hx+4070, 32GB, 1TB
the new amd 7000 mobile will be available in feb
Hey! Would you recommend this right now over a TUF A15 (RTX4050). Im getting the omen for about $1082 while the A15 is for $1142. But the A15 has a much bigger 90Wh battery. I believe the A15 doesn't have that wobbly screen issue.
Victus is good but too bad this config never reach my country
Only the 5600H+3050/6500M both selling for $750
I had a 2019 HP Omen RTX 2060. At the time it was one of the cheapest bang for buck Laptop in my market. I pulled the trigger and bought it. Few months in, the laptop died. Brought it in to the service centre. They said the motherboard was the problem. They switched it out and it was fixed.
Not too long after the fix, i found that whenever i fully drained the battery. When i turn it on, as it charges. The wifi could not connect. I checked everything with the drivers and couldnt find a fix. Only fix was letting it charge to 100%. Then it would work again. There were also some thermal problems here and there.
I dont think i will buy a HP again. Traumatised by it. But it could be just my laptop. Maybe someone else had same issues with me.
AMD Advantage
For gaming laptops Asus or Lenovo, period! Others are trash or extremely poor value like Razer and I don’t need to know about them.
thumbnail wallpaper?
Planning to get an Alienware M15 R7. Is it a good choice?
Good video, it seems to me to be a good, not excellent laptop, I agree with the hinges that continue with the same problem from last year and the day before, but I'm surprised that you bought the model with a 165hz screen with better quality since it was a claim what did you do last year to see how the resolution was, I think that a perfect laptop will not exist, it's just that you should find a suitable laptop for each person, personally I love the subtle design of HP OMEN I also like the Legion for the keyboard I don't like the Legion, I don't like the hinge on the HP, but for my taste I lean more towards the HP but with a 165 screen
Man I got a HP Omen 16 with a 12700H and 3070 for $1500, and for that money I saw a Gigabite AERO 4k display, 12700h CPU and a 3070 Ti on Amazon. So this have to be way cheaper to really be consider hehe.
This one seems ok, but for some dumb reason at the lower price points, the manufacturers, are only shipping units with one memory stick, installed, on AMD/Radeon based systems. I guess they don't understand the importance of dual channel.
It's vr-ready?
Slim 7 has a H series...
i would never get an Omen ever again. had 1 a few years back and so much trouble.
This is over $2100 in my country. Talk about price difference 😐.
The Asus ROG strix g15 advantage edition is the best deal for amd gaming laptop by far. I really wish amd could get more laptop vendors to use their gpus
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