Many years ago I saw Mr Copland Conduct a british symphony orchestra at South Bank in London To say its the best concert I have ever been to is an understatement but the highlight was the concert being stoped by a group of pigeons singing along to his music they soon went and Mr Copland continues to entrance us all with his music.
I remember performing Rodeo and Fanfare for the Common Man in high school band and have such fond memories of the brass parts we played. Copland's music to me expresses the hope and dreams of a better tomorrow. His music is larger than the canvas it is often painted on. It's easy to get lost in it.
A few years ago I read a book on classical music of the 20th century, "The Rest is Noise", by Alex Ross, in which Aaron Copland was treated as the great hero of 20th century American music. In any case, the author's judgment of the Third Symphony was negative, he said it was a "poorly planned" and "heroic in the manner of Shostakovich", more or less. I have no technical knowledge to judge the "planning" of a symphony, but I do not find any similarity here with Shostakovich, and to me this work sounds like something fully accomplished. The book seems to conclude, however, that the great American composer that the 20th century did not produce should be a synthesis of Copland, Barber, Bernstein, Gershwin and some other names: complexity and richness of form, powerful melodic imagination, accessibility and interest to a large audience, vast production, "Americanity", several characteristics that each of these names, in isolation, does not bring together at all.
@@pedrohenriqueprata Having listened to this piece a number of times I can't say I agree with Mr. Ross. My only complaint on the structure (which I assume is what he means by 'planning') is that _maybe_ (a big maybe) the first movement is too short. I do see some Shostakovich here, though. Not really in the sound, but in the philosophy. In any case, I think this is a masterpiece.
Beautiful music; I didn't know that the Fanfare for the Common Man was woven into this symphony. Grateful to discover Copland's fine music for the first time during this pandemic season.
Copeland - one of the great composers of the 20th century is a musicial genius. A great symphony andd a great orchestra. This a beautiful, my favourite symphony.
......years later....must still hear that Last Movement over and over again. Thanks too for all of your magisterial comments, below. Greetings from Oaxaca!
As a kid growing up in NYC in the fifties I formed a lot of my taste for classical music from the background music used on early TV dramas, and since the American culture of that period was still imbued with a belief in the dignity of the common man which was the legacy of the 1930s Depression, Copland's music was often featured, such as his cinematic scores (Our Town, The Heiress, Of Mice and Men, The Red Pony) and his ballet music (Rodeo, Billy the Kid), a music that captures the essence of small-town, common-man America, also the America of writers like Steinbeck and Agee. I was also amused, as an "ethnic" (Italian-American) kid that this music which so keenly evokes the heartland of America was written by a NewYork Jewish composer whose name was originally Aaron Kaplan!
Your description of his music is exactly why I am so passionate about his beautiful music. Especially as it compares to what people call music in this day and time,
I agree with you. I have great memories of rehearsing and playing under Copland when I was a lowly sophomore violin major at Indiana University. I had known and played some of his music since high school (Billy the Kid and more). I was expecting to see a down-home middle American farmer caricature, and was surprised when a short, balding, bespectacled, very Jewish-looking guy approached the podium. He was a kind, generous man, and I remember him saying something to the orchestra like "If I had known you were so good, I would have brought harder music!" I think I probably have a cassette recording of that concert stashed away in a closet (recorded on my cheap cassette recorder from backstage).
THANK YOU FOR THAT BEAUTIFULLY WRITTEN COMMENT ! Much to learn from amazing musical heritage of this tradition...it is hard to explain the depth and breadth to most who just don't get this vibration but I need to be more patient and gently introduce them. Yes indeed the "Dignity of the Common Man" .. - a life-long passion of this music genre and amateur ensemble violinist
Aaron Copland est pour moi une véritable révélation... c'est avec Saint Saens mes deux compositeurs préférés! la musique de Copland est à la fois complexe et très simple, complexe dans les accords et simple dans les mélodies! Sa musique me rend nostalgique d'une époque que je n'ai pas vécu! La première fois que j'ai écouté Copland, c'est à la Philarmonie de Paris dirigé par l'un des meilleurs chefs pour moi sinon le meilleur: Gustavo Dudamel... un moment magique et cela à 22ans!
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C'est suite à l'écoute d'Appalachian Spring que je l'ai découvert. En voiture, entre le Vermont et le New Hampshire dans le vert tendre de mai, quoi de plus inspirant ?
Everyone has always told me this symphony was "The Epitome of American composing" but I didn't realize until I started listening that it truly is the Epitome of American Composing, this just FEELS American!
Nice to see an American Heartland Orchestra that is so internationally recognized perform a magnificent American symphony. Gramophone Magazine's "Orchestra of the Year" for 2021
This should have 999,000 views. Not just 99,000. It's a brilliant performance of this magnificent American symphony (dare I say definitive? Maybe :) )and a first-rate recording. As good as it is, it really kicks in at the 17:00 mark. And then even more magic happens at 29:03.
Years ago I had a cassette of this very piece, but I never knew the name of it...only fanfare for a common man, but that is only a few minutes long. This is an entire composition based around that theme...for years I could not find it, and then by accident I found it!!!! Thank you for posting it!!! This is an amazing composition! Copland is definitely my favorite American composer and possibly my favorite overall!!! Awesome stuff!!!
Copland at his best here. This is a wonderful symphony and not performed enough in today's concert halls. It's packed full of invention and clever orchestration and performed immaculately by this terrific orchestra under the baton of Eiji Oue whose interpretation is second to none.
I heard Eiji Oue and the Minnesota Orchestra play this piece live at Orchestra Hall during Oue's tenure there,on March 25, 2000 - I have the ticket stub! The feeling in the hall was tremendous, you could tell that everyone was quite moved by the performance.
Thanks for this Gib. The first Copland LP I purchased was a mono 'high fidelity' recording of the 3rd symphony with Antal Dorati conducting the Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra from 1953. (Mercury Classics MG 50018). I have carried this treasure with me since 1963. This symphony has a long history in Minnesota!
The epitome of what it takes to be a true American, one who shrugs off adversity, relishes the underdog challenges, is true to the heritage, and embraces diversity, all put to music, forever you live Aaron Copeland.
I owned and listened to an old Bernstein recording of this for years. This piece just never quite grabbed me like the ballet scores. Maybe I should have had THIS recording!! Perhaps a matter of small distinctions, but this is just less directionless and ill-defined than the Bernstein (and, ahemm.. minus the occasional intonation errors of the Bernstein/NYP). This symphony may not be at quite the showy masterwork level of the big ballets, but Oue and Minnesota bring this into focus for me as a powerful and inwardly directed work. Big thanks for posting this!
It is too bad that the wonderful old recording of this work with the Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra performing under Antal Dorati is not posted here. Great rwcording . This one is the other best performance that I have heard.
Probably the ONLY reason! Your imploding "country" (once a great nation) degenerates, degrades, atomizes daily. Nero, Caligula had more probative ethics. I "feel" your shame, pal! Greetings from México......
LOL!!! You speak of an "imploding country." Have you ever heard of the phrase, "people who live in glass houses should never throw stones?" If the United States is "imploding," then what does that say about Mexico?
The United States of America is the greatest country this world has ever seen, always will be. Take your jealousy elsewhere my friend. All I was trying to do was celebrate the works a great artist. You are the one who turned this into a comparison test. :)
Even as somebody who is not too intelligent, you pose a provocative but fair question: What does an immoral, corrosive USA “say about México”? It says that our Blessèd Lord hath so loved his humble, industrious Mexicans that he lavished upon them a geographic and culinary Paradise! Such that a million expatriates from violent garbage nations like your own prefer to live here in beauty and harmony, eschewing the tsunami of racism, terrorism and wars that ‘American’ fanatics like yourself have leashed upon our precious little planet. Rocco's Homework Assignment: Listen to Copeland's "El Salón México"....see if you can learn what HE knew!
I could make some inane political comment, but shan't. Politics is for morons and criminals, no matter what nation you're discussing. Why do you feel it necessary to inject politics into every discussion? Can't all of you just enjoy the music?
A great symphony. In 55+ years of concert-going in the UK I've only ever heard it live once. Sad. Copland is rarely programmed, Roy Harris even less so.
This is a very good performance, not as cautious as most, but the best I ever heard was the transcription of a Philadelphia Orchestra concert, on tour in the late 80's, performed at Teatro Colon, Buenos Aires. It was the South American premier of this symphony, and music director Riccardo Muti with the Orchestra delivered an edge-of-the-seat performance of astonishing urgency. There is something hard won about their performance of this Copland Symphony, which stood in stark contrast to a rendition of the Brahms Symphony no. 2, after the intermission, which seemed as effortless as it was gorgeous. Outside of the Symphonies of Mahler and Beethoven, the Copland Symphony no. 3 is one of my favorites. (I made a crude boom-box cassette of the radio broadcast, which I replayed numerous times while commuting in whatever rattle-trap I was driving at the time).
To appreciate this symphony you have to give it your full attention-you have to read it and not just have it in the background, carefully following it musical logic gives the listener a great reward
Some how this man captured the America that was . This is a epitaph to this country . From the wild west to WW1 and WW 2:. Prity much all gone . But memorialize in his music . Very few hear now .
I would for many years have agreed with what you write in every aspect. But General Smedley Butler (1881-1940) - a brave and I believe good/great man, a man of truth, would not. His book from 1935 was "War is a Racket", and he opposed the US entry into WW2 from vast moral high ground and experience (and huge popularity with ordinary working men) - that made him much more problematic than that actually-unpleasant, Fuhrer-loving character Charles Lindbergh (which British spies like Ian Fleming were able to deal with rather readily). Note the year in which he died ... at the Naval Hospital in Philadelphia. [Which puts one in mind of another good man James Forrestal, 1892-1949, who fell out of the window at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda. Of course that guy had connections with JFK and brother Bobby, and we all know what happened to them] Also unable to agree with you are the makers of "Soldier Blue", "Dances with Wolves" or indeed the awful, gut-wrenching series "The English" (out on Netflix last year and UTTERLY convinced of the sheer evil entirely encompassing and overwhelming the Old West of 1890 and beyond). On the other hand, Frank Darabont in his absolutely tremendous and marvellous film "The Majestic" would agree ... but also would not! [The amazing movie with Jim Carrey playing a straight role sings a hymn of praise for the endless kindness of small-town America as contrasted with vast condemnation of the small-minded, mean, idiotic, chaotic and unAmerican process that was McCarthyism]. Where was the golden age in California with its evil "Chicken Coop Murders" of 1926-1928, or Marion Parker muder - also of 1927? America had terrorism after the First World War (as seen in the movie "J Edgar") and the 1970s ("American Pastoral") - but both ideas have been erased. A problem with Copland's own "Quiet City" is that we know it is ALMOST but not quite fake, though perphaps possible for moments. Even worse is the stunningly gorgeous music by James Newton Howard for "Wyatt Earp" which describes a Wild West of dignity and grandeur and beauty that (most likely) never existed at all... [I write this to year as a Brit whose ancestors were among the pioneer settlers in Wisconsin and Nebraska and (probably) never did any direct harm to anybody in their whole lives] Copland, again, tried to work with his (male) lover to put a lot of edge into "The Tender Land", but his "Promise of Living" ended up being taken at face value, as one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever written ... and sung. How do we resolve this dilemma? How can something that we are convinced is so wonderful be fake or built on lies? My aim and task here is not to disillusion you totally, but just to add some insight and perspective. For I found the way out of this maze when I was Born Again. Firstly, and quite shockingly, we have the basic New Testament truth of 1 John 5:19 - it is strong stuff, and all the more so from somebody who loved Jesus, and believed in his abilities. But there it is in black and white! So what can save us? What I realised is that what gives the beauty and meaning to all this is the Holy Spirit, as the giver of signs through culture (as well as Scripture, nature and Rapture). Copland was a committed atheist I believe, but the Holy Spirit does not worry too much about that! Los Angeles DID have a golden age thanks to a British guy and a guy from Georgia who somehow found each other (of course it was not by chance, but was meant to be) and made movies of stunning innocence and joy and hope and resilience under the name Laurel and Hardy. Could that possibly compensate for hideous murders of children? Not really, but it was still God-given, and it tried its best to heal and cleanse. Likewise, when Shyamalan began making his stupendous movie "Signs" he had just got started when 9/11 happened - the most evil thing in American history perhaps (and again with a lot brushed under the carpet with lies). He said he wanted to give people back their hope, and of course that same James Newton Howard made the music for that movie - music that is replete with the Holy Spirit and can change people's lives if they listen to it. So, no, there was never a Golden Age in America (as far as we can tell), but there were people inspired by those ideas and contexts, and used by the Holy Spirit to give us hope and light and truth in the worst of circumstances. There was also a guy called Desmond Doss (movie "Hacksaw Ridge") whose God-given example again offers cleansing in respect of what we remember of - and can honour in - World War II So we should not feel ashamed to love these things, even if we SHOULD recognise where the true source and worth lie... The works of art do not at first glance seem to compensate for the real-life evil, and yet here we are listening to Copland ... and (probably) watching Laurel and Hardy ... even a century later. So what endures? Father, Son and Holy Spirit and their love, and their hope invested in us and in the greatest geniuses of art that our culture can produce, in spite of everything! History cannot be rewritten or glossed over - for that is a heinous crime. But forgiveness and mercy and cleansing of evil are possible, and that is what the Holy Spirit did 2000 years ago, does now, and will do until Jesus returns ... maybe not so long from now.
Very reminiscant of John Williams. Especially Saving Private Ryan. Many modern soundtrack composers get their inspiration from the old composers, and rightly so!
every trumpet player should hear this fabulous performance by principle trumpeter manny laureano and try to learn what mr. vacchiano taught him.from a longtime admirer of both of them . rjh
Copeland -- one of the great composers of the 20th century from any country. And yet I cannot find a complete Copeland cd collection anywhere on the net
C'est suite à l'écoute d'Appalachian Spring que je l'ai découvert. En voiture, entre le Vermont et le New Hampshire dans le vert tendre de mai, quoi de plus inspirant ?
Mr. Potter! Look for the fabulous MERCURY recordings, you hear this great orchestra featured in many fine recordings, and great conductors and soloists. Read the MERCURY history, and who were behind it, and its revolutionary recording technique, and people.
I just heard Leonard Bernstein "The age of anxiety" and it seems to me that he quoted Aaron in the first part of its epiloge. is that it? such a marvelous find.
Copland discovered this harmonic style in the Southern Hymns like Southern Harmony, Shaped Notes and Fuguing Tunes. It features the interval of the fifth and omits most major thirds. It has become his American Sound but he did a lot of other things too.
That's very interesting and important for me to know, and I thank you. Copland's insistent lack of faith - combined with his several other characteristics - throw up the paradox of how his music is (and is perceived to be) so very spiritual. He determinedly wanted to input some "edge" into his stuff, and people in the receiving of it keep throwing that back at him, seeing just the joy and beauty and divine depth going beyond all ordinary, earthly things. (even though nature is of course in the work). But now I know - from you - how the enigmatic, inspiring, loving, truth-bringing Holy Spirit found him anyway... The raiser of the human condition through Scripture, nature, culture and Rapture.
One of Bernstein's "kids" concerts introduced me to "The Red Pony Suite" and I then proceeded to buy every Copeland recording I could find. What an auditory discovery! However, "The Third Symphony" is the only Copeland "symphony" I've heard. In a word it is triumphant. But I wish I could hear the others. Where can I find them? Help! - A longtime fan
Dear Rique Borges: Oh, Wow! This is Incredibly Beautiful! I wish I could get my kids and other family members to appreciate this. Thanks so much for the upload; and I love the First Thanksgiving art. I wonder where you found it? I placed it on my desktop (a bit early - or late - whatever)
Sir, Just play it... at dinner, at a holiday gathering, etc. Quietly if necessary. My parents exposed us to all types of music and even though we did not initially respond, as we grew up the Tchaikovsky, Ellington, et al became to be appreciated and loved.
Copland's 3rd; a great American symphony in the "Americana" sound that Copland created as switched from an experimental to a more accessible idiom. Copland's 3rd, Bernstein's 2nd (Age of Anxiety), Rorem's 3rd, William Schuman's 3rd are all great American symphonies, but none compares to the originality of Ives' 4th.
Yeah, Rorem's 3rd! I like all 3 of his symphonies, all written in the1950's. Lottsa good stuff in Rorem's catalog - we don't hear enough of it via public channels and performances.
Ives may be more original, but Copland was his superior as a Whitmanesque composer for the people. Copland captures an American continental spirit that is far more accessible than Ives. There’s a lot to be said for Copland’s accessibility. He characterizes the American sense of itself - he practically defines that self-consciousness in all its permutations as a national soul.
This is a wonderful recording, but it's important to note that instrument choices matter. I think the depth of the Lawson horn sound makes a HUGE difference in the sound of this performance. Special shout out to Walter Lawson. The Conn 8D and the Lawson horns are unparalleled in terms of emotional evocation.
Yes, that piece is greater than this one, I guess. Especially "The Promise of Living". How wonderful it must have been to have seen him in action!!! You may know that Copland (co-writing with the lyricist who was his lover) wanted "The Promise of Living" to be a bit edgy, but the inspiring Holy Spirit had other ideas, and that piece came to be associated with farming and harvest and simple things like love for the land...
OK so it's Copland, so it's obviously good, and I've never heard it before, but it's a wonderful symphony. But - and it's a big but - why have I never heard this orchestra before? What a great sound. I'm a huge fan of the Chicago Symphony, but crikey this band is right in the same ball park.
Just one of the many reasons I love living in the Twin Cities--our music scene here is fantastic. I grew up going to Orchestra Hall with my grandpa, starting with their concerts for children. Many years later, the Minnesota Orchestra still sounds wonderful.
The Minnesota is certainly one of the great American orchestras. Also known for decades as the Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra. Their Grammy-winning recording of the Sibelius symphonies is magical. And it's hard to find a more technically perfect rendition of their Beethoven Symphony cycle. (Holy crap - I've never heard a better double-bass performance of the 3rd movement of the 5th Symphony.) I really think this orchestra deserves to be in the same league as the great orchestras of Cleveland, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Los Angeles and Boston.This really is a beautiful performance.
My dad has the whole Copland collection and says that Aaron stressed to Bernstein how some parts have to be played. But we both lingered on the idealized Puritan image. Needless to say, this painting (full title The First Thanksgiving at Plymouth), created by New York artist Jennie Augusta Brownscombe in 1914, is much more about the mythology of Americana than an attempt to show what really happened at Plymouth in 1621.
The last movement (and the entire symphony, more loosely) is based on the Fanfare to the Common Man. It's not extra, it's this work using the fanfare as a basis for its material.
Clay Werner is part correct. I think I read in an article from Opus Magazine back in the 1980s, that Copland was partly influenced by Shostakovich. While Copland was still in his experimental stage, turning out works that were thorny and difficult, influenced by the likes of Stravinsky; he considered his Russian contemporary, Shostakovich, and how Shostakovich's music was communicating with the people, and that's part of how Copland I guess resolved to find a more popular idiom that wasn't just for intellectuals but for everyone; hence the "Fanfare for the Common Man." It was also a celebration of the "Common Man" as the "Common Man" were the ones winning WW2, the soldiers and people back home who were average folks on the street. Later Copland returned to his experimental ways and jumped on the serial bandwagon turning out a handful of works close to the spirit of Shoenberg and Webern, not exactly 12-tone but close to it.
I will transcribe an answer I gave about a year ago: "You are right, the theme of painting is even the first thanksgiving. It is a work of the painter Jennie Augusta Brownscombe (more details here:commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Thanksgiving-Brownscombe.jpg ). It's almost always too hard for me to find an image that I find appropriate to associate with a song, and I always try to avoid what's so easy or what sounds like a cliché. Even though painting, in this case, is not an important work of art, and even presents very obvious errors of historical reconstitution (for example, of the East Coast Indians in the seventeenth century), it seemed to me that it matched with "spirit" or "Intention" of the song."
I agree that this is world class. It's a difficult work to bring off and it took a Japanese conductor to do it. Why difficult? Copland can sound too much like a model pupil of Europe trying *too* hard to write the great American symphony, even though by 1946 he didn't need to prove himself. The Fanfare, which was a stroke of genius, usually sounds too portentous. Oue avoids these traps better than, say, Bernstein.
No, "Appalachian Spring" is another work, unrelated to the third symphony, and exists in more than one arrangement, for ballet and as an orchestral suite. On my channel there is also an interpretation of Appalachian Spring: th-cam.com/video/7nLQima0l0I/w-d-xo.html
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There's a special place in hell for people who put ads in classical music.
Many years ago I saw Mr Copland Conduct a british symphony orchestra at South Bank in London
To say its the best concert I have ever been to is an understatement
but the highlight was the concert being stoped by a group of pigeons singing along to his music
they soon went and Mr Copland continues to entrance us all with his music.
Sharples .Great story, thanks!
I remember performing Rodeo and Fanfare for the Common Man in high school band and have such fond memories of the brass parts we played. Copland's music to me expresses the hope and dreams of a better tomorrow. His music is larger than the canvas it is often painted on. It's easy to get lost in it.
A few years ago I read a book on classical music of the 20th century, "The Rest is Noise", by Alex Ross, in which Aaron Copland was treated as the great hero of 20th century American music. In any case, the author's judgment of the Third Symphony was negative, he said it was a "poorly planned" and "heroic in the manner of Shostakovich", more or less. I have no technical knowledge to judge the "planning" of a symphony, but I do not find any similarity here with Shostakovich, and to me this work sounds like something fully accomplished. The book seems to conclude, however, that the great American composer that the 20th century did not produce should be a synthesis of Copland, Barber, Bernstein, Gershwin and some other names: complexity and richness of form, powerful melodic imagination, accessibility and interest to a large audience, vast production, "Americanity", several characteristics that each of these names, in isolation, does not bring together at all.
@@pedrohenriqueprata Having listened to this piece a number of times I can't say I agree with Mr. Ross. My only complaint on the structure (which I assume is what he means by 'planning') is that _maybe_ (a big maybe) the first movement is too short. I do see some Shostakovich here, though. Not really in the sound, but in the philosophy.
In any case, I think this is a masterpiece.
Copeland is nothing but a joke compared to Billy Eilish. Broaden your horizons.
The conclusion of the first movement alone makes hearing the symphony worthwhile. Copland was a master composer of themes for everyday people.
Music is a neverending discovery. Blessed are those who always find themselves like this.
This IS and will ever be THE American symphony.
Exactly correct, RIchard
Ive's 4th.
This music is epic - the most beautiful piece of music ever!
Absolutely Some time ago someone added a very patriotic slideshow to it. Can't seem to find it
Beautiful music; I didn't know that the Fanfare for the Common Man was woven into this symphony. Grateful to discover Copland's fine music for the first time during this pandemic season.
Neither had I, until tonight's Jeopardy
He wrote it as a tribute honoring WWII participants. He then wove it into this symphony.
Aaron Copland is American and the greatest "common man" composer of American thought and music.
Welcome to the tribe! Copland is pretty much a religious experience for me!
@@triciastevens4267 for me as well Tricia . . . my primary 'go to' since 1963.
What a masterpiece. I can always listen to it from start to finish without getting bored
yes but this masterpiece insults islam and should be banned
@@superhussein If Allah existed he would ban it personally if he were offended. Religions are myths.
Copeland - one of the great composers of the 20th century is a musicial genius. A great symphony andd a great orchestra. This a beautiful, my favourite symphony.
Copeland is a district in England not a composer.
......years later....must still hear that Last Movement over and over again. Thanks too for all of your magisterial comments, below. Greetings from Oaxaca!
As a kid growing up in NYC in the fifties I formed a lot of my taste for classical music from the background music used on early TV dramas, and since the American culture of that period was still imbued with a belief in the dignity of the common man which was the legacy of the 1930s Depression, Copland's music was often featured, such as his cinematic scores (Our Town, The Heiress, Of Mice and Men, The Red Pony) and his ballet music (Rodeo, Billy the Kid), a music that captures the essence of small-town, common-man America, also the America of writers like Steinbeck and Agee. I was also amused, as an "ethnic" (Italian-American) kid that this music which so keenly evokes the heartland of America was written by a NewYork Jewish composer whose name was originally Aaron Kaplan!
Your description of his music is exactly why I am so passionate about his beautiful music. Especially as it compares to what people call music in this day and time,
I agree with you. I have great memories of rehearsing and playing under Copland when I was a lowly sophomore violin major at Indiana University. I had known and played some of his music since high school (Billy the Kid and more). I was expecting to see a down-home middle American farmer caricature, and was surprised when a short, balding, bespectacled, very Jewish-looking guy approached the podium. He was a kind, generous man, and I remember him saying something to the orchestra like "If I had known you were so good, I would have brought harder music!" I think I probably have a cassette recording of that concert stashed away in a closet (recorded on my cheap cassette recorder from backstage).
Kelly Dun
THANK YOU FOR THAT BEAUTIFULLY WRITTEN COMMENT ! Much to learn from amazing musical heritage of this tradition...it is hard to explain the depth and breadth to most who just don't get this vibration but I need to be more patient and gently introduce them. Yes indeed the "Dignity of the Common Man" .. - a life-long passion of this music genre and amateur ensemble violinist
@@Txstik this observation is a gem thank you!!!!!
Aaron Copland est pour moi une véritable révélation... c'est avec Saint Saens mes deux compositeurs préférés! la musique de Copland est à la fois complexe et très simple, complexe dans les accords et simple dans les mélodies! Sa musique me rend nostalgique d'une époque que je n'ai pas vécu! La première fois que j'ai écouté Copland, c'est à la Philarmonie de Paris dirigé par l'un des meilleurs chefs pour moi sinon le meilleur: Gustavo Dudamel... un moment magique et cela à 22ans!
C'est suite à l'écoute d'Appalachian Spring que je l'ai découvert. En voiture, entre le Vermont et le New Hampshire dans le vert tendre de mai, quoi de plus inspirant ?
Everyone has always told me this symphony was "The Epitome of American composing" but I didn't realize until I started listening that it truly is the Epitome of American Composing, this just FEELS American!
the greatest american symphony ever! I love it!
It's because you've been conditioned by Hollywood movies whose composers ... take... a lot of inspiration from Copeland.
Its great, but, Ives is the epitome.
@@TheSpiritOfTheTimes Copland..no "e".
I feel that way about all of his stuff!
This piece sounds so... grand. Big and grand.
I have never known the Minnesota Orchestra to disappoint. This is a world class performance.
This performance is "world class," indeed.
He spent a summer in 1934 in Bemidji, Minnesota.
Nice to see an American Heartland Orchestra that is so internationally recognized perform a magnificent American symphony. Gramophone Magazine's "Orchestra of the Year" for 2021
4th movement is an absolute eargasm.
So nice to hear the chimes at the very end for a change. They are usually buried.
This should have 999,000 views. Not just 99,000. It's a brilliant performance of this magnificent American symphony (dare I say definitive? Maybe :) )and a first-rate recording. As good as it is, it really kicks in at the 17:00 mark. And then even more magic happens at 29:03.
at 36:25 I feel like I'm walking into a Remington painting
Yes, isn't this amazing? It is so thoughtful.
Years ago I had a cassette of this very piece, but I never knew the name of it...only fanfare for a common man, but that is only a few minutes long. This is an entire composition based around that theme...for years I could not find it, and then by accident I found it!!!! Thank you for posting it!!! This is an amazing composition! Copland is definitely my favorite American composer and possibly my favorite overall!!! Awesome stuff!!!
i love this symphony - i have never enjoyed music as much as i have listening to this - it is epic - magnificent
Copland at his best here. This is a wonderful symphony and not performed enough in today's concert halls. It's packed full of invention and clever orchestration and performed immaculately by this terrific orchestra under the baton of Eiji Oue whose interpretation is second to none.
Agreed - makes me want to take a road trip across the country when this mess is over
@@O-sa-car Good luck with that O-sa-car. Stay safe until then. David A
Copeland is a borough in England not a composer.
@@somebody9033 That it maybe, but you should have gone to specsavers.
@@DavidA-ps1qr oops :D replied to the wrong comment. So many spelt it wrong
Gorgeous. Love it.
Thanks for posting.
I heard Eiji Oue and the Minnesota Orchestra play this piece live at Orchestra Hall during Oue's tenure there,on March 25, 2000 - I have the ticket stub! The feeling in the hall was tremendous, you could tell that everyone was quite moved by the performance.
Thanks for this Gib. The first Copland LP I purchased was a mono 'high fidelity' recording of the 3rd symphony with Antal Dorati conducting the Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra from 1953. (Mercury Classics MG 50018). I have carried this treasure with me since 1963. This symphony has a long history in Minnesota!
The best version I've ever heard. Better than Bernstein or Copland's own. Bravo
My favorite version by far is still Dorati conducting the old Minneapokis Symphony Orchestra. Perfect tempi....full of life and passion.
Yes, agreed. It was the LP I grew up with and none has surpassed it. If only they re-recorded it in stereo a few years later.
@@lednew2010 Dorati said there was no point in him rerecording it because with Bernstein's first version available no one would buy his.
The epitome of what it takes to be a true American, one who shrugs off adversity, relishes the underdog challenges, is true to the heritage, and embraces diversity, all put to music, forever you live Aaron Copeland.
Copland...no "e".
Written during World war two, to gird Americas resolve in the face of a world on fire. I also love "Letter from home" from this same period.
Terry don't forget Lincoln Portrait was composed during that same time period at the express request of FDR for the essentially the same reasons.
Exquisite and moving.
Oh gosh. We're playing this next season. I didn't know it existed, but I'm looking forward to it already. :)
Copeland is International. He transcends America.
Copland
I owned and listened to an old Bernstein recording of this for years. This piece just never quite grabbed me like the ballet scores. Maybe I should have had THIS recording!! Perhaps a matter of small distinctions, but this is just less directionless and ill-defined than the Bernstein (and, ahemm.. minus the occasional intonation errors of the Bernstein/NYP). This symphony may not be at quite the showy masterwork level of the big ballets, but Oue and Minnesota bring this into focus for me as a powerful and inwardly directed work. Big thanks for posting this!
A great symphony and a great orchestra. Thanks for posting.
To me this simply says USA with all its flaws and with all its grandeur...mostly its grandeur and the love of the land.
Christopher Thorkon if you love the land stop those who would destroy it for profit! God will not forgive any failure to act! It is his not ours!!!
It is too bad that the wonderful old recording of this work with the Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra performing under Antal Dorati is not posted here. Great rwcording . This one is the other best performance that I have heard.
Wonderful melody.
Aaron Copland is, America. I'm so very proud to call myself an American for so many reasons. And one of them is because of Aaron Copland. :)
Probably the ONLY reason! Your imploding "country" (once a great nation) degenerates, degrades, atomizes daily. Nero, Caligula had more probative ethics. I "feel" your shame, pal! Greetings from México......
LOL!!! You speak of an "imploding country." Have you ever heard of the phrase, "people who live in glass houses should never throw stones?" If the United States is "imploding," then what does that say about Mexico?
The United States of America is the greatest country this world has ever seen, always will be. Take your jealousy elsewhere my friend. All I was trying to do was celebrate the works a great artist. You are the one who turned this into a comparison test. :)
Even as somebody who is not too intelligent, you pose a provocative but fair question: What does an immoral, corrosive USA “say about México”? It says that our Blessèd Lord hath so loved his humble, industrious Mexicans that he lavished upon them a geographic and culinary Paradise! Such that a million expatriates from violent garbage nations like your own prefer to live here in beauty and harmony, eschewing the tsunami of racism, terrorism and wars that ‘American’ fanatics like yourself have leashed upon our precious little planet. Rocco's Homework Assignment: Listen to Copeland's "El Salón México"....see if you can learn what HE knew!
I could make some inane political comment, but shan't. Politics is for morons and criminals, no matter what nation you're discussing. Why do you feel it necessary to inject politics into every discussion? Can't all of you just enjoy the music?
Trombone and low brass section kicks some serious bottom!!
My favourite symphony, thank you.
A great symphony. In 55+ years of concert-going in the UK I've only ever heard it live once. Sad. Copland is rarely programmed, Roy Harris even less so.
This is a very good performance, not as cautious as most, but the best I ever heard was the transcription of a Philadelphia Orchestra concert, on tour in the late 80's, performed at Teatro Colon, Buenos Aires. It was the South American premier of this symphony, and music director Riccardo Muti with the Orchestra delivered an edge-of-the-seat performance of astonishing urgency. There is something hard won about their performance of this Copland Symphony, which stood in stark contrast to a rendition of the Brahms Symphony no. 2, after the intermission, which seemed as effortless as it was gorgeous. Outside of the Symphonies of Mahler and Beethoven, the Copland Symphony no. 3 is one of my favorites. (I made a crude boom-box cassette of the radio broadcast, which I replayed numerous times while commuting in whatever rattle-trap I was driving at the time).
Comments like yours are why I still read TH-cam comments. You told a story. Thank you.
Awesome
Shabbat Shalom ! Copeland understood.
Copland...no "e".
This is so beautiful
This is beautiful!
To appreciate this symphony you have to give it your full attention-you have to read it and not just have it in the background, carefully following it musical logic gives the listener a great reward
Me encanta Copeland ❤❤❤siempre que lo oigo me recuerda a los nativos americanos ,y al campo con sus montañas 😊😊😊
Excellent!
The best !
Aaron Copland fidèle à lui même....c'est à dire excellent.
pip pip olde chap
Mais qui!
Some how this man captured the America that was . This is a epitaph to this country .
From the wild west to WW1 and WW 2:.
Prity much all gone .
But memorialize in his music .
Very few hear now .
I would for many years have agreed with what you write in every aspect.
But General Smedley Butler (1881-1940) - a brave and I believe good/great man, a man of truth, would not.
His book from 1935 was "War is a Racket", and he opposed the US entry into WW2 from vast moral high ground and experience (and huge popularity with ordinary working men) - that made him much more problematic than that actually-unpleasant, Fuhrer-loving character Charles Lindbergh (which British spies like Ian Fleming were able to deal with rather readily).
Note the year in which he died ... at the Naval Hospital in Philadelphia.
[Which puts one in mind of another good man James Forrestal, 1892-1949, who fell out of the window at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda. Of course that guy had connections with JFK and brother Bobby, and we all know what happened to them]
Also unable to agree with you are the makers of "Soldier Blue", "Dances with Wolves" or indeed the awful, gut-wrenching series "The English" (out on Netflix last year and UTTERLY convinced of the sheer evil entirely encompassing and overwhelming the Old West of 1890 and beyond).
On the other hand, Frank Darabont in his absolutely tremendous and marvellous film "The Majestic" would agree ... but also would not! [The amazing movie with Jim Carrey playing a straight role sings a hymn of praise for the endless kindness of small-town America as contrasted with vast condemnation of the small-minded, mean, idiotic, chaotic and unAmerican process that was McCarthyism].
Where was the golden age in California with its evil "Chicken Coop Murders" of 1926-1928, or Marion Parker muder - also of 1927?
America had terrorism after the First World War (as seen in the movie "J Edgar") and the 1970s ("American Pastoral") - but both ideas have been erased.
A problem with Copland's own "Quiet City" is that we know it is ALMOST but not quite fake, though perphaps possible for moments.
Even worse is the stunningly gorgeous music by James Newton Howard for "Wyatt Earp" which describes a Wild West of dignity and grandeur and beauty that (most likely) never existed at all...
[I write this to year as a Brit whose ancestors were among the pioneer settlers in Wisconsin and Nebraska and (probably) never did any direct harm to anybody in their whole lives]
Copland, again, tried to work with his (male) lover to put a lot of edge into "The Tender Land", but his "Promise of Living" ended up being taken at face value, as one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever written ... and sung.
How do we resolve this dilemma? How can something that we are convinced is so wonderful be fake or built on lies?
My aim and task here is not to disillusion you totally, but just to add some insight and perspective. For I found the way out of this maze when I was Born Again.
Firstly, and quite shockingly, we have the basic New Testament truth of 1 John 5:19 - it is strong stuff, and all the more so from somebody who loved Jesus, and believed in his abilities. But there it is in black and white!
So what can save us?
What I realised is that what gives the beauty and meaning to all this is the Holy Spirit, as the giver of signs through culture (as well as Scripture, nature and Rapture).
Copland was a committed atheist I believe, but the Holy Spirit does not worry too much about that!
Los Angeles DID have a golden age thanks to a British guy and a guy from Georgia who somehow found each other (of course it was not by chance, but was meant to be) and made movies of stunning innocence and joy and hope and resilience under the name Laurel and Hardy.
Could that possibly compensate for hideous murders of children?
Not really, but it was still God-given, and it tried its best to heal and cleanse.
Likewise, when Shyamalan began making his stupendous movie "Signs" he had just got started when 9/11 happened - the most evil thing in American history perhaps (and again with a lot brushed under the carpet with lies). He said he wanted to give people back their hope, and of course that same James Newton Howard made the music for that movie - music that is replete with the Holy Spirit and can change people's lives if they listen to it.
So, no, there was never a Golden Age in America (as far as we can tell), but there were people inspired by those ideas and contexts, and used by the Holy Spirit to give us hope and light and truth in the worst of circumstances.
There was also a guy called Desmond Doss (movie "Hacksaw Ridge") whose God-given example again offers cleansing in respect of what we remember of - and can honour in - World War II
So we should not feel ashamed to love these things, even if we SHOULD recognise where the true source and worth lie...
The works of art do not at first glance seem to compensate for the real-life evil, and yet here we are listening to Copland ... and (probably) watching Laurel and Hardy ... even a century later.
So what endures?
Father, Son and Holy Spirit and their love, and their hope invested in us and in the greatest geniuses of art that our culture can produce, in spite of everything!
History cannot be rewritten or glossed over - for that is a heinous crime. But forgiveness and mercy and cleansing of evil are possible, and that is what the Holy Spirit did 2000 years ago, does now, and will do until Jesus returns ... maybe not so long from now.
Aaron Copland:3.Szimfónia
1.Molto moderato - Con semplice espressione 00:00
2.Allegro molto 10:37
3.Andantino quasi allegretto 18:53
4.Molto deliberato - Allegro risoluto 29:16
Minnesota Zenekar
Vezényel:Eiji Oue
So spacious. Thank-you for posting!
Love the painting; love the music to go along with it!
I wonder who the painter is. Is it Courbet?
Very reminiscant of John Williams. Especially Saving Private Ryan.
Many modern soundtrack composers get their inspiration from the old composers, and rightly so!
As I commented on a recording of The Planets: "Gustav Holst was John Williams, before John Williams was John Williams." 😊
No,dear. Copeland came first so he cannot be reminiscent of Williams.
My high school band is going to state this year. We are playing an American show that has excerpts from symphony no. 3
every trumpet player should hear this fabulous performance by principle trumpeter manny laureano and try to learn what mr. vacchiano taught him.from a longtime admirer of both of them . rjh
Manny Laureano, great guy and fantastic player
principal trumpeter
Copeland -- one of the great composers of the 20th century from any country. And yet I cannot find a complete Copeland cd collection anywhere on the net
Copeland is a borough in England, not a composer.
@@somebody9033 Copland is a movie, not a composer.
Thanks for the post.
C'est suite à l'écoute d'Appalachian Spring que je l'ai découvert. En voiture, entre le Vermont et le New Hampshire dans le vert tendre de mai, quoi de plus inspirant ?
Mr. Potter! Look for the fabulous MERCURY recordings, you hear this great orchestra featured in many fine recordings, and great conductors and soloists. Read the MERCURY history, and who were behind it, and its revolutionary recording technique, and people.
Does anyone else hear "trains" at 44:25? THAT is America as it was expanding!
This entire work ends at 43 minutes. You live near a railroad track?
@@Renee2004lr You're right. I have to go back to check the time.
Could Somebody tell me the name of this beautiful painting....Well Chosen!!
I just heard Leonard Bernstein "The age of anxiety" and it seems to me that he quoted Aaron in the first part of its epiloge. is that it? such a marvelous find.
A travesty are the terrible TH-cam posted commercials interruptions of what should be unbroken, continuous music
I love Aaron Copland's music.
Who painted the picture?
@Kendalyn Murdock Thank you! That's exactly what I would have named the painting, if I had painted it.
Copland discovered this harmonic style in the Southern Hymns like Southern Harmony, Shaped Notes and Fuguing Tunes. It features the interval of the fifth and omits most major thirds. It has become his American Sound but he did a lot of other things too.
That's very interesting and important for me to know, and I thank you.
Copland's insistent lack of faith - combined with his several other characteristics - throw up the paradox of how his music is (and is perceived to be) so very spiritual.
He determinedly wanted to input some "edge" into his stuff, and people in the receiving of it keep throwing that back at him, seeing just the joy and beauty and divine depth going beyond all ordinary, earthly things.
(even though nature is of course in the work).
But now I know - from you - how the enigmatic, inspiring, loving, truth-bringing Holy Spirit found him anyway...
The raiser of the human condition through Scripture, nature, culture and Rapture.
One of Bernstein's "kids" concerts introduced me to "The Red Pony Suite" and I then proceeded to buy every Copeland recording I could find. What an auditory discovery! However, "The Third Symphony" is the only Copeland "symphony" I've heard. In a word it is triumphant. But I wish I could hear the others. Where can I find them? Help! - A longtime fan
Copland...no "e".
That thing where you suddenly hear "We will we will rock you!"
Dear Rique Borges: Oh, Wow! This is Incredibly Beautiful! I wish I could get my kids and other family members to appreciate this. Thanks so much for the upload; and I love the First Thanksgiving art. I wonder where you found it? I placed it on my desktop (a bit early - or late - whatever)
Sir, Just play it... at dinner, at a holiday gathering, etc. Quietly if necessary. My parents exposed us to all types of music and even though we did not initially respond, as we grew up the Tchaikovsky, Ellington, et al became to be appreciated and loved.
I like this one better than the Michael Tilson Thomas version, especially near the end.
36:54 sounds like the theme to a great western
It's a moment of sunlit charm
Keith Emerson named his first son Aaron.
After Hank Aaron?
Keith new the composers
Fanfare for the Common Man.
Copland's 3rd; a great American symphony in the "Americana" sound that Copland created as switched from an experimental to a more accessible idiom. Copland's 3rd, Bernstein's 2nd (Age of Anxiety), Rorem's 3rd, William Schuman's 3rd are all great American symphonies, but none compares to the originality of Ives' 4th.
There's a recording of this symphony of Ives on my channel. Maybe I'll like you: th-cam.com/video/4aSOr7Sqym4/w-d-xo.html
I completely agree. Ives IS the American Original!
Yeah, Rorem's 3rd! I like all 3 of his symphonies, all written in the1950's. Lottsa good stuff in Rorem's catalog - we don't hear enough of it via public channels and performances.
Ives may be more original, but Copland was his superior as a Whitmanesque composer for the people. Copland captures an American continental spirit that is far more accessible than Ives. There’s a lot to be said for Copland’s accessibility. He characterizes the American sense of itself - he practically defines that self-consciousness in all its permutations as a national soul.
Eiji Oue, conductor.
39:00
Train blows with air of rage
beautifull music.i thougt its from tjakowsky but no,its from copeland.its amazing music.
Copland...no "e".
This is a wonderful recording, but it's important to note that instrument choices matter. I think the depth of the Lawson horn sound makes a HUGE difference in the sound of this performance. Special shout out to Walter Lawson. The Conn 8D and the Lawson horns are unparalleled in terms of emotional evocation.
I heard Copland conduct a concert performance of The Tender Land at (then) Philharmonic Hall in NY: ineffable.
Yes, that piece is greater than this one, I guess. Especially "The Promise of Living".
How wonderful it must have been to have seen him in action!!!
You may know that Copland (co-writing with the lyricist who was his lover) wanted "The Promise of Living" to be a bit edgy, but the inspiring Holy Spirit had other ideas, and that piece came to be associated with farming and harvest and simple things like love for the land...
OK so it's Copland, so it's obviously good, and I've never heard it before, but it's a wonderful symphony. But - and it's a big but - why have I never heard this orchestra before? What a great sound. I'm a huge fan of the Chicago Symphony, but crikey this band is right in the same ball park.
We are very proud of our Orchestra here in Minnesota. Superb woodwind section, especially.
GoldenShellback I believe he's referring to "band" as a music ensemble - not as a "rock band" and such. It's actually a proper synonym to "orchestra."
Just one of the many reasons I love living in the Twin Cities--our music scene here is fantastic. I grew up going to Orchestra Hall with my grandpa, starting with their concerts for children. Many years later, the Minnesota Orchestra still sounds wonderful.
The Minnesota is certainly one of the great American orchestras. Also known for decades as the Minneapolis Symphony Orchestra. Their Grammy-winning recording of the Sibelius symphonies is magical. And it's hard to find a more technically perfect rendition of their Beethoven Symphony cycle. (Holy crap - I've never heard a better double-bass performance of the 3rd movement of the 5th Symphony.) I really think this orchestra deserves to be in the same league as the great orchestras of Cleveland, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Los Angeles and Boston.This really is a beautiful performance.
Husband and I are season ticket holders for the Minnesota Orchestra. Take a trip from Chicago sometime, you won't be disappointed!
34:24 excerpt start
This is the abridged edition, which omits the defining10-bars which Leonard Bernstein removed in 1947. I don't recommend it for this reason.
Painting: Jennie Augusta Brownscombe, The First Thanksgiving at Plymouth, 1914, Pilgrim Hall Museum, Plymouth, Massachusetts
My dad has the whole Copland collection and says that Aaron stressed to Bernstein how some parts have to be played. But we both lingered on the idealized Puritan image. Needless to say, this painting (full title The First Thanksgiving at Plymouth), created by New York artist Jennie Augusta Brownscombe in 1914, is much more about the mythology of Americana than an attempt to show what really happened at Plymouth in 1621.
I know this is an idealized image, I even wrote about it by answering one of the comments.
Thanks a lot for posting this information. Regards.
Idyllic or no, I love this music. It is, what I believe, how things ought to be.
30:52 Emerson Lake & Palmer in Concert 1977
10:34 2nd mov.
18:53 3rd mov.
I have not heard this version of fanfare to man is there something extra or did it transition to another work???
The last movement (and the entire symphony, more loosely) is based on the Fanfare to the Common Man. It's not extra, it's this work using the fanfare as a basis for its material.
30:21
Does anyone else hear "trains" at about 42:20 and on?
Those high irregular chords are a bit like American train horns, maybe?
Not like British ones - the American ones are better. :)
Here we go again - the conductors name is Eiji Oue
very good music. IT brigs me soundtracks for the movies....
Copland in the style of Shostakovich superb
Clay Werner: What do you mean?
not at all. shostakovich and copland are two very different composers.
Clay Werner is part correct. I think I read in an article from Opus Magazine back in the 1980s, that Copland was partly influenced by Shostakovich. While Copland was still in his experimental stage, turning out works that were thorny and difficult, influenced by the likes of Stravinsky; he considered his Russian contemporary, Shostakovich, and how Shostakovich's music was communicating with the people, and that's part of how Copland I guess resolved to find a more popular idiom that wasn't just for intellectuals but for everyone; hence the "Fanfare for the Common Man." It was also a celebration of the "Common Man" as the "Common Man" were the ones winning WW2, the soldiers and people back home who were average folks on the street. Later Copland returned to his experimental ways and jumped on the serial bandwagon turning out a handful of works close to the spirit of Shoenberg and Webern, not exactly 12-tone but close to it.
@@coachgarcia3130 interesting, thanks for letting us know!
What's the painting?
I will transcribe an answer I gave about a year ago:
"You are right, the theme of painting is even the first thanksgiving. It is a work of the painter Jennie Augusta Brownscombe (more details here:commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Thanksgiving-Brownscombe.jpg ). It's almost always too hard for me to find an image that I find appropriate to associate with a song, and I always try to avoid what's so easy or what sounds like a cliché. Even though painting, in this case, is not an important work of art, and even presents very obvious errors of historical reconstitution (for example, of the East Coast Indians in the seventeenth century), it seemed to me that it matched with "spirit" or "Intention" of the song."
An interesting one. Humbly, one of those pieces that one just breathe. It's ok, it is less than 30 minutes.
I’m just an idiot. From, Wisconsin!
I agree that this is world class. It's a difficult work to bring off and it took a Japanese conductor to do it. Why difficult? Copland can sound too much like a model pupil of Europe trying *too* hard to write the great American symphony, even though by 1946 he didn't need to prove himself. The Fanfare, which was a stroke of genius, usually sounds too portentous. Oue avoids these traps better than, say, Bernstein.
40:00
The America we love...
Well done adverts for f*cking ruining it for me
Here's a trick that might work. Fast forward it to the end and play it again.
Is this the whole Appalachian Spring?
No, "Appalachian Spring" is another work, unrelated to the third symphony, and exists in more than one arrangement, for ballet and as an orchestral suite. On my channel there is also an interpretation of Appalachian Spring: th-cam.com/video/7nLQima0l0I/w-d-xo.html
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