@@rudyyarbrough5122 there’s documentaries out there that explain why they named it F on TH-cam. Basically they wanted primer pilots to fly it and if they gave it a B designation they wouldn’t have gotten that so they gave it and F so they’d be able to get fighter pilots to fly it.
@@Carlos2Dangerous Thank you because I have never heard that before. Everyone knew it wasn't a fighter since it had no air to air defense that I am aware of.
Ok so let's clear some things up. The first stealth aircraft was actually the SR-71 it was designed and built with a small radar cross section in mind. The second would be skunkworks have blue, the 3rd was some wild Northrop thing that looked like an airborne whale that was a purpose built spycraft. Then we got the F117, and B2 shortly after. History goes a long way.
I dont think this was the first supercruise aircraft either. I believe the F14D and the eurofighter could both super cruise. It should be mentioned that the eurofighter was flowing 2 or 3 years before the f22.
@@egorney messed up part is that I guess if you wanted to think about it this way the SR71 was super cruising cause it's engines where always on burn lol.
I absolutely love them renewing the F-22. Being a former Airman, the F-22 has a special place in my heart and the fact that they are renewing the F-22 is welcoming.
It is a magnificent aircraft, but what makes the f22 interesting is that for 70 years we've only fought, (and lost every time!) with peasants, farmers, and pre-industrial people yet things like these get all the procurement $.
@@jeffmoore9487 the reason we lost, was because we weren’t fighting a country. In Vietnam we were fighting communism. In Afghan, we were fighting terrorism. Even if we had control over every square foot of the country, which we almost did in Afghan, it would still persist. It was a loss the second we started the war.
@@m.a.6020 Yes, but what your describing in Vietnam is fighting a country that after they win, becomes a peaceful trading partner. They were never a threat to anybody. US troops hide in the Green Zone in Bagdad and dodge occasional rockets. Taliban held the majority of Afghanistan for most of the war and took "our" capital and bases, as the US could never win. Starving millions of civilians, as in Yemen and Afghanistan isn't winning, its a crime. These stupid jets are a defeat to the American people. Pure corporate gifts, that provide no use against the peasants and farmers that have continuously kicked out ass for 60 years.
I like how all these videos are like "NEW AMERICAN FIGHTER JET SHOCKED THE WORLD" and on the image at the video there is some fighter jet from ace combat or just some fan art.
@0:52 you say, "The F-22 Raptor began entering service at the US Army in 1997" (??). To the best of my knowledge the Raptor has never served as an Army war plane; only as a USAF war plane.
If by "Army war plane" you mean fixed wing aircraft, you are right, in the sense that it is illegal for the Army to own and operate fixed wing aircraft.
@@rgi8426 "illegal" ROTFL ! There's some law somewhere on the books that make the hundreds of fixed wing aircraft, that the US Army currently operates, "illegal"?! Please provide that legal citation. In the meantime, you don't know what you're talking about, the US Amy has or continues to own and operate the C-12 Huron, C-20 Gulfstream, C-26 Metroliner, C-27J Spartan, Gulfstream C-37, C-41A Aviocar, EO-5 Dash 7, RC-12 Huron, RO-6 Dash 8, Cessna UC-35, and on and on. Besides, my post had no connection to the fact that the Raptor is fixed wing. My post is completely accurate. Try and stay on-point. Again, we're looking forward to that citation.
@@rgi8426 The U S Army has more aircraft than the U S Air Force and more boats than the U S Navy but the Army dose not have F22 nor do they have a nuclear powered Aircraft Carriers
they shouldn't because its pointless by this point. f22 it self can take down 5 f15 by just one f22 alone and US has like about 70 of them in service. the truth is that its way too fucking expensive compared to the rest of the aircraft we see. Moreover, the price to sustain it long enough are expensive as hell as well. modernizing the current ones is the smartest move currently, allowing it to have the function of f35 while having the power of a f22 virtually and physically makes it a nigh-invinicble fighter. after all that US can then consider building more raptors or find a better solution to replace the weaker f35s
It is a magnificent aircraft, but what makes the f22 and F35 interesting is that for 70 years we've only fought, (and lost!) with peasants, farmers, and pre-industrial people yet things like these get all the procurement $.
I would say that the biggest fear of an enemy aircraft would be an F22 but hell, they're not going to know until the missile comes at them. BADASS! Wish they would have built more too.
While an aircraft radar might not detect them, bigger radars like ground and AWACS radar, even usual airfield ATC towers, will and already did plenty of times. But it is hard to get a missile lock onto the F-22 and that's what matters!
I was watching a flight simulator in which the gamer had a Russian plane and he was going up against a F-22. The gamer is just flying along, notices something in his mirror and there the F-22 is. Basically just mocking him taking up flying formation. Granted this was a simulator, but I'll bet similar situations have happened in real life also. The video is "F-22 Raptor Vs Su-27 Flanker Very Disrespectful Kill." It is 9 minutes long, but if you just want the reaction, that starts at about 4:30.
They don’t need to and it’s pointless now. F-22 is indeed the best fighter jet but the point is that it’s wayyyyyyyy too expensive to build per unit. Building more of them is actually kinda pointless as it can easily kill multiple aircrafts far away
@Rhizosphere easy to say hard to be done. You ever know how much it cost to sustain one? We don’t just talk about the building price but also the price it takes to keep it in top shape those are all money. Building more of them then modernise it cost even more. The government and Biden aren’t idiots who spend every single last penny on airforce only they also need them for naval and ground genius
The bottom line is that there is not an aircraft in the world that can take on the Raptor and live. When the upgrades are finished the Raptor will still be the apex predator.
I would dispute that there are no aircraft in the world that can take them on there are no aircraft in use by any military in the world that can take them on but ww2 Era piston fighters can take them on but only because at this point those turtles turn tighter then jets
I worked on the F-22 program as a contractor to Lockheed Martin. My company supplied the leading edge flat actuation (LEFA) systems…. the side weapon bay(SWB) door actuation systems……. and the main weapons bay (MWB) door actuation systems. I Worked with the contract company 22+ years… was involved with the research and development testing, and production testing. I was responsible for all of the test equipment, and all the calibration for testing….on all of the subassemblies, before they left our facility, to be installed at the Lockheed production line. Lockheed and all the subcontractors, took a huge loss ….many hours and millions of dollars of R&D were involved getting this aircraft put together , and not enough were made….. after the government Axed the program, For all of the companies involved , to recoup their losses. Everything on this aircraft is very critical… as timing with the doors opening releasing ordinance and closing ….in an undisclosed amount of time , we had to accommodate and test our units , Under the guidelines per Lockheed ….if it did not make criteria on our test equipment it did not ship. Each side has a (PDU) Power Drive Unit, or technically a hydraulic motor, powered by the aircraft, to open the side doors …also a large hydraulic motor(PDU) controls the main weapons door systems . The timing on the systems were very critical, for the stealth capabilities to remain undetected. It was vulnerable to a bigger cross section during that blip of time for detection. After the government did what it did …our company business suffered, as well as Lockheed, and every other subcontractor for this aircraft. Also , I was involved with leading edge flap systems for the F-35 A,B, and C variants…..and the ordinance release mechanism, which we tested just like the F-22. The cost of the F-35 program is astronomical. It has its advantages, because of the ground attack modes with of the different variants. With the cost of the F-35 …. they could have completed the contract for the F-22. The air frames can only take so many flight hours of designated time. I don’t think it’s very realistic, to see this plane lasting another 40 years. With new avionics upgrades and all the high tech helmets, That can be added to this aircraft ….that is well and good if possible. But , once the airframe flight hours are acquired , it will eventually be parked. A new F-22 airframe will never be developed again, that’s facts! Its role was to lead the F-35s….taking out threats ahead of them ! It was a big mistake for our government to cancel this F-22 program. The six generation will be a long way out I’m afraid, time will tell.
The first Stealth Aircraft was the Lockheed A-12. It first flew on April 30 1962. The SR-71 first flew on December 22 1964. The A-12 was extended and a second seat installed to accommodate a weapons officer. They are very similar aircraft and actually the SR-71 was simply longer with two seats instead of one. However, they both have different official names.
Nein. Die A12 war kein Steatlh Flugzeug. Es hatte KEINE Radarreduktion. Das wird oft falsch gesagt. Der Anstrich war wegen der wärme. Jedes Radar hatte das Flugzeug auf dem Radar... nur konnte es damals nicht bekämpft werden.
It could be argued that the HO 229 was stealthy, in its day very hard to pick up on the radar of the time, the Mosquito was also to some extent due to being wood construction, the 229 also used quite a bit of wood as well.
I built the stimulator racks, which they used down at the big Hughes anechoic chamber in Texas for the F-35 and the F-22 from around 2004 thru 2006. Even the first ones did still have numerous sensors. One supposes the stealth profile was one factor for not including some things.
A friend of mine was on the engine program working on thrust vectoring. Some of the engineers would use the early 3d printing machines used for prototyping to make custom parts for their cars if I remember correctly.
FINALLY, I knew Lockheed had intentions to upgrade it long before now, yet as you said politics intervened in that to supposedly cut down cost. With it being an unmatched combat aircraft and now stepping up for those long-awaited upgrades, I guarantee you it will be more formidable than ever.
IT'S THE 2ND BEST PLATFORM EVER BUILT WE SHOULD HAVE BUILT THE YF-23 IT WAS MUCH FASTER LONGER RANGE STEALTHYER AND MUCH MORE ADVANCED AND UP-GRADABLE AND IT LOOKED A LOT COOLER
@@burnerjack01 Perfect example of what NOT to do. The USAF successfully cancelled the F-22 program TWICE before production, but LM rammed in down our throats politically. We had to tear apart the production line to stop the bleeding at 186 built @ an eye stabbing 450M per 30% MR copy. Still born and useless, its never been used and it is currently being permanently retired. After 20+ years of blowing money into the void. Worst aircraft in aviation history, x 3.
F-22 was built for dogfighting and they complain that its not multirole it wasnt made to be multirole it was made for the first look the first shot and the first kill
So the YF-23 lost against the F-22 despite test showing higher top speed, super cruise speed, and slightly better stealth systems. 30 years later Lockhead Martin gets an additional 10 billion to upgrade the fleet and on the other side of the world Northrop who built the YF-23 is helping Japan with their new fighter which essentially gonna be an improved version of the YF-23. So how does anyone else feel about that because I'm scratching my head over it myself.
The F-22 is an extremely impressive fighter jet. Probably the best jet ever created, but crazy expensive. As for sale to Israel, none were sold. Reports suggest Pres. Trump okayed the sale but Congress would have to amend legislation to permit the sale. Thr sale never happened. Israel did buy F-35s though which have already seen real combat.
They should’ve went with the F21 Super TomCat. Would’ve saved a ton of money in the long run & could’ve been turned into a Stealth Interceptor Ultra TomCat that with the right missile or laser tech maybe could’ve been used to engage hypersonic missiles. Having a Navy version & an even more scary version for the Air Force that most likely would be a 5th Gen monster today. Mach 2.5 way back then, imagine what it could’ve been had it not been retired because of “cost.”
Jay you are correct and the B-2 mess that followed. Some would argue that the SR-71 Was the first stealth since it used Stealth design technology. It's radar return was very small for its size.
I support anything that keeps this incredible bird in the air. It is already the best and the upgrades will only make it even better than the best. Come on China, let's see what you got cause I know it isn't even close to what we got. Not underestimating the enemy, just having the belief in what the US has. Which is the best in the world hands down. To be honest, the F-22 is the best the world knows about. What we don't, makes the F-22 look like a bi plane from WWI.
"see what you got"... hehehe... everything 'they got' they got from us through hacking and black market purchases of hacked or leaked classified info. Our stuff is still gonna win. Even our older stuff would beat anything else out there (the new F-15 II) And we get info from sat data. Whenever we are in a "battle theater", which includes a 300 mile radius circle around any flying US craft, we are getting area assessment data, and we will kill any enemy before they even get to the horizon between us. Many, many miles before they see us, we send the claws of the Raptor to them. I did not know they were not set up for ground target attacks though. I thought anti-radar missiles were similar form factor.
Private Rock, the ultimate grunt We seem to have forgotten about the F20. Its super fast scramble time is something that is needed by many of our allies.
Yes. The tigershark. This one Air Force person a few days ago said that when you put bombs under the wings of the F20 its performance suffers badly. So why not use this plane in a mostly defensive role? They could use it to throw up a fighter screen very quickly when their radar detects incoming planes. South Korea, Taiwan, and Israel all could use a plane like this, among other countries.
@@georgepalmer5497 Because Congress consistently blocked sales and had to mediate troubles between McDonnell Douglas and Northrop. The Mirage 2000 ended up being what the F-20's potential customers bought after all of the troubles when attempting to place orders for the F-20. It just wasn't worth all the hassle that Congress and McDonnell Douglas put them through, and the program ended up being cancelled around 1986. The Mirage 2000, at the time, looked far more promising with its 2000C-S5 model on the horizon with a brand new RDI radar and engine, as well as compatibility for every missile on the market - even Soviet ones with a rail attachment. Edit: And by today's standards, the F-20's extremely outdated. It would crumble on any modern battlefield shortly after takeoff. Taiwan has Mirage 2000-5EI's, F-16A Block 20's, and their F-CK-1's. South Korea has their FA-50's, F-16C/V's, F-15E's, F-35's, and KF-21's, and Israel has the F-16I's, F-15I's, and a new F-15EX model titled F-15IA on the horizon.
The F20 came out at about the same time as the F16, and it would have been getting many upgrades during that time, like the F16. One guy said on the internet that when you put bombs on an F20 is when its performance starts to suffer. I was saying that we shouldn't try to bomb with it at all. We should have used this plane in an entirely defensive way. We could use it to throw up a fighter screen when enemies attack from the air. There are a lot of situations in the world where we have an ally directly next to a savage enemy, like North and South Korea, for example. There are a lot of countries that would love to buy this plane. I don't know for certain, but I'm willing to bet that stealth aircraft are devilishly hard to keep ready for combat at a moment's notice all the time.
There are 4 built with a 7" springed suspension lifts, and 38" Toyo Open Country All Terrain Tires, for landing in dirt fields. They come with a stamped tail that says Custom Offsets.
F22 raptor is Iconic I grew up with it an the upgrade could help sense its older then China an Russian 5th generation but its still better Stealth capabilities then both of them so make sense to upgrade them until the replacement is ready their still the world's best Fighter
Oh I left something out. The F-35 is a great aircraft, ask any pilot flying it who came off another airframe if they like it. You know what they’ll tell you, they wouldn’t go back to their original aircraft. So if it’s so terrible…. Fact is you’ve got a lot of Russian & Chinese Fanboys that say that crap.
I wouldn't want to be in a F35 against an F22, but then I wouldn't want to be Russian/Chinese AD against an F35 or be the target of an F35 armaments either! I also would way rather be in an F22 fighting for air dominance than any other aircraft. Otherwise put me in the F35.
Very expensive and very well worth it as America owns the most advance fighter jet ever made and with upgrades and making it better, why argue with that concept. GOD BLESS OUR MILITARY.
They should also restart the production lines as well as the current stock is probably only seeing limited duty. Increasing the utilization will result in losses, so new units will be needed to replace them.
I think moderation of the plane is good idea. Stealth technology is here to stay no matter how much we try to deny it, Congress with their budget committees are sometimes wrong
One of the finest aircraft designed and made so far by the USA an up grade would bring it up to tactical standard of today, the only thing wrong is they didn’t make enough of them what a shame
As someone who has always been bias to the A10 as my favorite. I have always been intrigued by the F-22 as a close second. I thought this was an awesome video.
The F22 is very limited in the amount of ordinance it can carry. The F22 was designed to replace the F15 as the 6th gen air superiority fighter. It wasn't designed to drop bombs on tanks and fly support for the infantry. Give me an A10 for that any day.
At 0:52, the narrator tells us that in 1997, the F-22A Raptor first entered service with the U.S. Army. No, the United States Air Force. In 1947, the U.S. Defence Department separated the USAAF from the U.S. Army, forming the USAF.
Within the first minute, you had two significant errors. The F22 wasn't the "world's first stealth aircraft", the F117 (among other aircraft) was in service years before the F22. Also, the F22 was not in service with the "Army", it was with the USAF.
Several people have already made note, but I thin the narrator meant to say the first stealth fighter. Personally I think instead of making it a bomber aircraft keep it in it's role of stealth fighter. Upgrade where and whenever possible in regards to taking on other aircraft. If Air to air missles become smaller well then see if we an fit more inside of it. As radar's improve upgrade it's radar etc.
As I understand it the F22 was developed as primary stand off dog fighting platform mainly to counter Russia as a replacement for our F16s. During the development the world changed and dog fighting became a thing of the past. We suddenly needed a multi-role fighter to fight the new wars (Iraq & Afghanistan), so the F22 was virtually abandoned in favor of the F35 JSF platform.
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Should have taken the f22 airframe and gutted all avionics, electronics, targeting... everything then completely update the whole platform. This would have made a truly cutting edge plane. It could have easily housed all the f35's bs. But also maintain its fighter characteristics
f 35 is not on par with the raptor. it's good, and can defeat a LOT of targets with similar systems to the 22 and a few extras, but the f 35 was designed to do everything so it does them all ok. had they made the 35 for a singular role, then yes it'd probably stand out as much as the raptor. as it is, it's a cousin who isn't as good. it's a capable plane, but against a raptor, it'd be lunch.
It does have many sensors. Just none of those that require a forward facing window, which would increase its radar signature. It still took ten racks of stimulation gear to test it down at the Hughes Anechoic Chamber in Texas, just like the F-35 did. There were actually only a handful of sensors that did not get included. One is obvious. Looking at the F-35 nose, one can see the optical pod PROTRUDING on it. The F-35 sacrificed a small amount of increased head on radar signature with that. No such animal hanging on the F-22. Oh and it is a truly cutting edge plane, silly.
The F22 is NOT the world's first stealth aircraft! Who editts this, Mr. No One? I often enjoy your content, but huge mistakes like this make us doubt your information.
If it is being anounced that upgrades are being done, it's a guaranteed that the aircraft has had and used them for quite a while now. Plus a lot of stuff we will never know about.
The first stealth aircraft was the Horten Ho 229, all the way back in late WWII by the German forces. Good thing the end of WWII made sure the plane was never put into production. Still, America does not deserve the credit for having the first stealth aircraft.
The Horten 229 was not a stealth aircraft whatsoever. Horten made claims later that it was stealth, first to the Chinese when he tried to sell the design and again later, but all studies and tests proved that it was not at all a stealth aircraft.
World's first stealth aircraft...what about the F117?
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Technically the F-117 is not an "F" or fighter. It was an interdiction bomber that was misnamed probably for security reasons.
@@rudyyarbrough5122 there’s documentaries out there that explain why they named it F on TH-cam. Basically they wanted primer pilots to fly it and if they gave it a B designation they wouldn’t have gotten that so they gave it and F so they’d be able to get fighter pilots to fly it.
@@rudyyarbrough5122 You are correct sir.
@@Carlos2Dangerous Thank you because I have never heard that before. Everyone knew it wasn't a fighter since it had no air to air defense that I am aware of.
The Raptor did not enter service with the Army like you stated at the very beginning. It's the Air Force that owns and operates the F 22
Yeah I thought that didn't make sense either the army doesn't even have planes does it?
@@UsmcDevildog-rd1yt the army has planes that carry cargo and sush but not fighter jets
Not sure any research was done.
Ok so let's clear some things up. The first stealth aircraft was actually the SR-71 it was designed and built with a small radar cross section in mind. The second would be skunkworks have blue, the 3rd was some wild Northrop thing that looked like an airborne whale that was a purpose built spycraft. Then we got the F117, and B2 shortly after. History goes a long way.
probably meant to say fighter....F117 wasn't a fighter..lol
I dont think this was the first supercruise aircraft either. I believe the F14D and the eurofighter could both super cruise. It should be mentioned that the eurofighter was flowing 2 or 3 years before the f22.
F14D could only super cruise in a slight dive with the wings in after pushing through the sound barrier on burners.
@@egorney messed up part is that I guess if you wanted to think about it this way the SR71 was super cruising cause it's engines where always on burn lol.
@@egorney I'm no expert but wasn't the A-12 in production before the SR-71?
I absolutely love them renewing the F-22. Being a former Airman, the F-22 has a special place in my heart and the fact that they are renewing the F-22 is welcoming.
If you're someone who flew the F-22 Raptor, then thank you for your service in the USAF.
not the first stealth aircraft, but possibly the one that strikes the most fear
One of the most beautiful aircraft ever produce.
It is a magnificent aircraft, but what makes the f22 interesting is that for 70 years we've only fought, (and lost every time!) with peasants, farmers, and pre-industrial people yet things like these get all the procurement $.
debatable Su-57 kinda hot
@@jeffmoore9487 the reason we lost, was because we weren’t fighting a country. In Vietnam we were fighting communism. In Afghan, we were fighting terrorism. Even if we had control over every square foot of the country, which we almost did in Afghan, it would still persist. It was a loss the second we started the war.
@@m.a.6020 Yes, but what your describing in Vietnam is fighting a country that after they win, becomes a peaceful trading partner. They were never a threat to anybody.
US troops hide in the Green Zone in Bagdad and dodge occasional rockets. Taliban held the majority of Afghanistan for most of the war and took "our" capital and bases, as the US could never win.
Starving millions of civilians, as in Yemen and Afghanistan isn't winning, its a crime. These stupid jets are a defeat to the American people. Pure corporate gifts, that provide no use against the peasants and farmers that have continuously kicked out ass for 60 years.
Hmm, the Su-57 looks better in my opinion
I like how all these videos are like "NEW AMERICAN FIGHTER JET SHOCKED THE WORLD" and on the image at the video there is some fighter jet from ace combat or just some fan art.
@0:52 you say, "The F-22 Raptor began entering service at the US Army in 1997" (??). To the best of my knowledge the Raptor has never served as an Army war plane; only as a USAF war plane.
One of two massive mistakes in the narration.
LOL
If by "Army war plane" you mean fixed wing aircraft, you are right, in the sense that it is illegal for the Army to own and operate fixed wing aircraft.
@@rgi8426 "illegal" ROTFL ! There's some law somewhere on the books that make the hundreds of fixed wing aircraft, that the US Army currently operates, "illegal"?! Please provide that legal citation. In the meantime, you don't know what you're talking about, the US Amy has or continues to own and operate the C-12 Huron, C-20 Gulfstream, C-26 Metroliner, C-27J Spartan, Gulfstream C-37, C-41A Aviocar, EO-5 Dash 7, RC-12 Huron, RO-6 Dash 8, Cessna UC-35, and on and on.
Besides, my post had no connection to the fact that the Raptor is fixed wing. My post is completely accurate. Try and stay on-point. Again, we're looking forward to that citation.
@@rgi8426 The U S Army has more aircraft than the U S Air Force and more boats than the U S Navy but the Army dose not have F22 nor do they have a nuclear powered Aircraft Carriers
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they shouldn't because its pointless by this point. f22 it self can take down 5 f15 by just one f22 alone and US has like about 70 of them in service. the truth is that its way too fucking expensive compared to the rest of the aircraft we see. Moreover, the price to sustain it long enough are expensive as hell as well. modernizing the current ones is the smartest move currently, allowing it to have the function of f35 while having the power of a f22 virtually and physically makes it a nigh-invinicble fighter. after all that US can then consider building more raptors or find a better solution to replace the weaker f35s
It is a magnificent aircraft, but what makes the f22 and F35 interesting is that for 70 years we've only fought, (and lost!) with peasants, farmers, and pre-industrial people yet things like these get all the procurement $.
It's not practical to build more. They destroyed all the tooling so they are damn near better off starting a new plane from scratch.
I would say that the biggest fear of an enemy aircraft would be an F22 but hell, they're not going to know until the missile comes at them. BADASS! Wish they would have built more too.
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@@ben10094 It does look like it, doesn't it?
While an aircraft radar might not detect them, bigger radars like ground and AWACS radar, even usual airfield ATC towers, will and already did plenty of times. But it is hard to get a missile lock onto the F-22 and that's what matters!
they won't know until they climb out of wherever they were, if they survived and are radio'd... because the jet was already 1000 miles away
I was watching a flight simulator in which the gamer had a Russian plane and he was going up against a F-22. The gamer is just flying along, notices something in his mirror and there the F-22 is. Basically just mocking him taking up flying formation. Granted this was a simulator, but I'll bet similar situations have happened in real life also. The video is "F-22 Raptor Vs Su-27 Flanker Very Disrespectful Kill." It is 9 minutes long, but if you just want the reaction, that starts at about 4:30.
They should have built more of them!
I think they will replace it with next 6th generation fighter aircraft
They don’t need to and it’s pointless now. F-22 is indeed the best fighter jet but the point is that it’s wayyyyyyyy too expensive to build per unit. Building more of them is actually kinda pointless as it can easily kill multiple aircrafts far away
@Rhizosphere easy to say hard to be done. You ever know how much it cost to sustain one? We don’t just talk about the building price but also the price it takes to keep it in top shape those are all money. Building more of them then modernise it cost even more. The government and Biden aren’t idiots who spend every single last penny on airforce only they also need them for naval and ground genius
125,000,000$ 1 F22 Raptor
@@Shadow33rg Air Superiority...... Priceless..... Ask the Russians right about now.
Didn't we just send $58,000,000,000 to Ukraine with more to come?
The bottom line is that there is not an aircraft in the world that can take on the Raptor and live. When the upgrades are finished the Raptor will still be the apex predator.
I would dispute that there are no aircraft in the world that can take them on there are no aircraft in use by any military in the world that can take them on but ww2 Era piston fighters can take them on but only because at this point those turtles turn tighter then jets
And the modernized f35s have a good chance in BVR
There was a dogfight video where a f22 was taken out by a Rafale.
I worked on the F-22 program as a contractor to Lockheed Martin. My company supplied the leading edge flat actuation (LEFA) systems…. the side weapon bay(SWB) door actuation systems……. and the main weapons bay (MWB) door actuation systems. I Worked with the contract company 22+ years… was involved with the research and development testing, and production testing.
I was responsible for all of the test equipment, and all the calibration for testing….on all of the subassemblies, before they left our facility, to be installed at the Lockheed production line. Lockheed and all the subcontractors, took a huge loss ….many hours and millions of dollars of R&D were involved getting this aircraft put together , and not enough were made….. after the government Axed the program, For all of the companies involved , to recoup their losses. Everything on this aircraft is very critical… as timing with the doors opening releasing ordinance and closing ….in an undisclosed amount of time , we had to accommodate and test our units , Under the guidelines per Lockheed ….if it did not make criteria on our test equipment it did not ship. Each side has a (PDU) Power Drive Unit, or technically a hydraulic motor, powered by the aircraft, to open the side doors …also a large hydraulic motor(PDU) controls the main weapons door systems . The timing on the systems were very critical, for the stealth capabilities to remain undetected. It was vulnerable to a bigger cross section during that blip of time for detection. After the government did what it did …our company business suffered, as well as Lockheed, and every other subcontractor for this aircraft. Also , I was involved with leading edge flap systems for the F-35 A,B, and C variants…..and the ordinance release mechanism, which we tested just like the F-22. The cost of the F-35 program is astronomical. It has its advantages, because of the ground attack modes with of the different variants. With the cost of the F-35 …. they could have completed the contract for the F-22. The air frames can only take so many flight hours of designated time. I don’t think it’s very realistic, to see this plane lasting another 40 years. With new avionics upgrades and all the high tech helmets, That can be added to this aircraft ….that is well and good if possible. But , once the airframe flight hours are acquired , it will eventually be parked. A new F-22 airframe will never be developed again, that’s facts! Its role was to lead the F-35s….taking out threats ahead of them ! It was a big mistake for our government to cancel this F-22 program. The six generation will be a long way out I’m afraid, time will tell.
The first Stealth Aircraft was the Lockheed A-12. It first flew on April 30 1962. The SR-71 first flew on December 22 1964. The A-12 was extended and a second seat installed to accommodate a weapons officer. They are very similar aircraft and actually the SR-71 was simply longer with two seats instead of one. However, they both have different official names.
yea..... yea, you caught that one too huh? lol
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Nein. Die A12 war kein Steatlh Flugzeug. Es hatte KEINE Radarreduktion. Das wird oft falsch gesagt. Der Anstrich war wegen der wärme. Jedes Radar hatte das Flugzeug auf dem Radar... nur konnte es damals nicht bekämpft werden.
yep bit miss information there and there
Always a Raptor fan keep it flying
F-117 - First stealth
It could be argued that the HO 229 was stealthy, in its day very hard to pick up on the radar of the time, the Mosquito was also to some extent due to being wood construction, the 229 also used quite a bit of wood as well.
Glad to see them updating a already awesome fighter
The best aircraft ever.💗
and that while it's design was manhandled by a bunch of bean counters!!!! ggggggggggggggggggggggggRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
This is what science does! 😉💖
I built the stimulator racks, which they used down at the big Hughes anechoic chamber in Texas for the F-35 and the F-22 from around 2004 thru 2006. Even the first ones did still have numerous sensors. One supposes the stealth profile was one factor for not including some things.
My aunt designed the fuselage
@@jerrychan2851 no way!
@@reinerbraun1024 yea
My left nut designed the ailerons and landing gear.
A friend of mine was on the engine program working on thrust vectoring. Some of the engineers would use the early 3d printing machines used for prototyping to make custom parts for their cars if I remember correctly.
FINALLY, I knew Lockheed had intentions to upgrade it long before now, yet as you said politics intervened in that to supposedly cut down cost.
With it being an unmatched combat aircraft and now stepping up for those long-awaited upgrades, I guarantee you it will be more formidable than ever.
They are not
At 52 seconds in we learn that the US Army was the first service to use the aircraft....wow....and the USAF didn't object?
🤨🤨🤨🤨😦😦😦
Bringing back the Army Air Corp! 😊
@@brianfalicki4827 thank you I couldn't bring myself to correct glen, and explain what I thought was common knowledge.
lol
Really no reason for USAF to object, because they know they'll eventually get their own. 👍😁
IT'S THE 2ND BEST PLATFORM EVER BUILT WE SHOULD HAVE BUILT THE YF-23 IT WAS MUCH FASTER LONGER RANGE STEALTHYER AND MUCH MORE ADVANCED AND UP-GRADABLE AND IT LOOKED A LOT COOLER
I agree.
TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!
Was it even more expensive? Genuine a question, not a rhetorical one.
Agreed. USAF should've continued developing the YF-23. IMO much of the design tech in the YF-23 is part of the NGAD program.
Very cool looking, and test pilots preferred it's performance characteristics.
How did the F-35 not turn out well? Its legit the most advanced combat aircraft in existence
basically its specs are a dumbed down F-22 but with better tech
@@TrevTheMan00 With a different mission
Still the meanest looking fighter ever made!
The best jet in the world USA roster
I had the honor to be a MX Officer on the jet. That is the baddest aircraft.
The world was shocked again . That’s just shocking!
25 years later and no other plane even comes close.
Production never should have been mothballed, f35 isn't even close
No other airplane comes close to the utter uselessness of the F-22. It was stupid obsolete at birth.
@@FFE-js2zp So obsolete that after 25 years, US enemies are STILL trying to build it's equal.
@@burnerjack01
Perfect example of what NOT to do.
The USAF successfully cancelled the F-22 program TWICE before production, but LM rammed in down our throats politically. We had to tear apart the production line to stop the bleeding at 186 built @ an eye stabbing 450M per 30% MR copy. Still born and useless, its never been used and it is currently being permanently retired. After 20+ years of blowing money into the void. Worst aircraft in aviation history, x 3.
@@FFE-js2zp And yet, 25 years later, we almost have the Sukhoi-57 Felon and the Chengdu J-20. Almost.
Why would they make the same mistake?
MADE IN USA ALWAYS POWERFUL. WHICHEVER MODEL MADE IN AMERICA ARE ALWAYS POWERFUL.
"World's first stealth aircraft"
*Sad F117 noises*
English Electric lightning was the first fighter to cruise supersonically without afterburner/reheat, quite a few years before the F22
Cool, haven`t known it before. But the Electric Lightning wasn`t a stealth aircraft:)
F-22 was built for dogfighting and they complain that its not multirole it wasnt made to be multirole it was made for the first look the first shot and the first kill
So the YF-23 lost against the F-22 despite test showing higher top speed, super cruise speed, and slightly better stealth systems. 30 years later Lockhead Martin gets an additional 10 billion to upgrade the fleet and on the other side of the world Northrop who built the YF-23 is helping Japan with their new fighter which essentially gonna be an improved version of the YF-23.
So how does anyone else feel about that because I'm scratching my head over it myself.
Politicians never win Wars. as long as China doesn`t get there hands on it Japan has been friends.
Heard congress was upset with Northrop over the B2 budget. And F22 had agility edge over F23 if not mistaken.
Keep them. We need more.
Keep it flying
Keep and upgrade as needed.
The F-22 is an extremely impressive fighter jet. Probably the best jet ever created, but crazy expensive.
As for sale to Israel, none were sold. Reports suggest Pres. Trump okayed the sale but Congress would have to amend legislation to permit the sale. Thr sale never happened. Israel did buy F-35s though which have already seen real combat.
Actually the F-35 program is the most expensive to date.
@@juancarrero6652 Not per jet.
@@juancarrero6652 As a program it was more expensive, unit cost for an F 35 is much, much lower including development cost
@@juancarrero6652 the program is the jet isn’t you can buy almost 2 F-35 for one F-22
ok?
Wow, just think of what the Air Force could have done with them instead of the Army...Sheesh.
I was beginning to think I was the only person to catch that. lol
har har har.
Fantastic! Bring it back and build more!
Money, all about $$$.
That sound like hell of a deal for a hell of a fighter plain
Good to 2060? Was it not announced the F22 will start to retire 2030? 🙄
a no brainer. just keep improving the raptor.
They should’ve went with the F21 Super TomCat. Would’ve saved a ton of money in the long run & could’ve been turned into a Stealth Interceptor Ultra TomCat that with the right missile or laser tech maybe could’ve been used to engage hypersonic missiles.
Having a Navy version & an even more scary version for the Air Force that most likely would be a 5th Gen monster today. Mach 2.5 way back then, imagine what it could’ve been had it not been retired because of “cost.”
I thought that the F-117 was the World's first stealth aircraft.
Jay you are correct and the B-2 mess that followed. Some would argue that the SR-71 Was the first stealth since it used Stealth design technology. It's radar return was very small for its size.
The F22 wasn’t the worlds first stealth aircraft
I support anything that keeps this incredible bird in the air. It is already the best and the upgrades will only make it even better than the best. Come on China, let's see what you got cause I know it isn't even close to what we got. Not underestimating the enemy, just having the belief in what the US has. Which is the best in the world hands down. To be honest, the F-22 is the best the world knows about. What we don't, makes the F-22 look like a bi plane from WWI.
"see what you got"... hehehe... everything 'they got' they got from us through hacking and black market purchases of hacked or leaked classified info. Our stuff is still gonna win. Even our older stuff would beat anything else out there (the new F-15 II) And we get info from sat data. Whenever we are in a "battle theater", which includes a 300 mile radius circle around any flying US craft, we are getting area assessment data, and we will kill any enemy before they even get to the horizon between us. Many, many miles before they see us, we send the claws of the Raptor to them. I did not know they were not set up for ground target attacks though. I thought anti-radar missiles were similar form factor.
Hey, Obama how do you like the upgraded F-22?
Thanks US Air Force!
You better start making next generation fighters now
Private Rock, the ultimate grunt
We seem to have forgotten about the F20. Its super fast scramble time is something that is needed by many of our allies.
The tigershark?
Yes. The tigershark. This one Air Force person a few days ago said that when you put bombs under the wings of the F20 its performance suffers badly. So why not use this plane in a mostly defensive role? They could use it to throw up a fighter screen very quickly when their radar detects incoming planes. South Korea, Taiwan, and Israel all could use a plane like this, among other countries.
@@georgepalmer5497 Because Congress consistently blocked sales and had to mediate troubles between McDonnell Douglas and Northrop. The Mirage 2000 ended up being what the F-20's potential customers bought after all of the troubles when attempting to place orders for the F-20. It just wasn't worth all the hassle that Congress and McDonnell Douglas put them through, and the program ended up being cancelled around 1986. The Mirage 2000, at the time, looked far more promising with its 2000C-S5 model on the horizon with a brand new RDI radar and engine, as well as compatibility for every missile on the market - even Soviet ones with a rail attachment.
Edit: And by today's standards, the F-20's extremely outdated. It would crumble on any modern battlefield shortly after takeoff. Taiwan has Mirage 2000-5EI's, F-16A Block 20's, and their F-CK-1's. South Korea has their FA-50's, F-16C/V's, F-15E's, F-35's, and KF-21's, and Israel has the F-16I's, F-15I's, and a new F-15EX model titled F-15IA on the horizon.
The F20 came out at about the same time as the F16, and it would have been getting many upgrades during that time, like the F16. One guy said on the internet that when you put bombs on an F20 is when its performance starts to suffer. I was saying that we shouldn't try to bomb with it at all. We should have used this plane in an entirely defensive way. We could use it to throw up a fighter screen when enemies attack from the air. There are a lot of situations in the world where we have an ally directly next to a savage enemy, like North and South Korea, for example. There are a lot of countries that would love to buy this plane. I don't know for certain, but I'm willing to bet that stealth aircraft are devilishly hard to keep ready for combat at a moment's notice all the time.
@@georgepalmer5497 The F-16A blocks post-1981 blow the Tigershark out of the water in every conceivable way.
Best raptor ever...
No matter how expensive the toy, the American military will always be as effective as the American soccer squad!
keep going USA!!!!!!!! Great airplane , kick ass on the advisories !!!!
There are 4 built with a 7" springed suspension lifts, and 38" Toyo Open Country All Terrain Tires, for landing in dirt fields. They come with a stamped tail that says Custom Offsets.
its sort of the hunter killer of all fighters.. you only need a few of them flying around and the games all over...
F22 raptor is Iconic I grew up with it an the upgrade could help sense its older then China an Russian 5th generation but its still better Stealth capabilities then both of them so make sense to upgrade them until the replacement is ready their still the world's best Fighter
Oh I left something out. The F-35 is a great aircraft, ask any pilot flying it who came off another airframe if they like it. You know what they’ll tell you, they wouldn’t go back to their original aircraft. So if it’s so terrible…. Fact is you’ve got a lot of Russian & Chinese Fanboys that say that crap.
I wouldn't want to be in a F35 against an F22, but then I wouldn't want to be Russian/Chinese AD against an F35 or be the target of an F35 armaments either! I also would way rather be in an F22 fighting for air dominance than any other aircraft. Otherwise put me in the F35.
Air Superiority is a very Strong Deterrent. It gets top Priority. Money is not an issue.
Very expensive and very well worth it as America owns the most advance fighter jet ever made and with upgrades and making it better, why argue with that concept. GOD BLESS OUR MILITARY.
They should also restart the production lines as well as the current stock is probably only seeing limited duty. Increasing the utilization will result in losses, so new units will be needed to replace them.
I think moderation of the plane is good idea. Stealth technology is here to stay no matter how much we try to deny it, Congress with their budget committees are sometimes wrong
It's a great idea
The F-106 could super cruise.
Other than the stealth character of the F-22 Raptor, the F-15E is faster and longer radius coverage of 3000 miles than the raptor
let's see: being invisible vs. being fast - the last couple of Red Flags suggests the former is infinitely more important
That pilot ain't WOKE, hes defending the United States of America
One of the finest aircraft designed and made so far by the USA an up grade would bring it up to tactical standard of today, the only thing wrong is they didn’t make enough of them what a shame
Gotta LOVE American Know How 🇺🇸
Yeah, but how many coffee cup holders does it have ?
As someone who has always been bias to the A10 as my favorite. I have always been intrigued by the F-22 as a close second. I thought this was an awesome video.
The F22 is very limited in the amount of ordinance it can carry. The F22 was designed to replace the F15 as the 6th gen air superiority fighter. It wasn't designed to drop bombs on tanks and fly support for the infantry. Give me an A10 for that any day.
At 0:52, the narrator tells us that in 1997, the F-22A Raptor first entered service with the U.S. Army. No, the United States Air Force. In 1947, the U.S. Defence Department separated the USAAF from the U.S. Army, forming the USAF.
It will be interesting for the F22 for this useful upgrade.
I agree with J sounds like a good plan !
Within the first minute, you had two significant errors. The F22 wasn't the "world's first stealth aircraft", the F117 (among other aircraft) was in service years before the F22. Also, the F22 was not in service with the "Army", it was with the USAF.
Another wonderfully incorrect American “documentary”
The f-22 should be called BAD COMPANY
I believe that a winner team much be improved, because is good and we must keep it winning.
The world was truly shocked to it's core. People may never recover from this news.
2060s . Looks like my kids and future grandchildren are going to be paying for it.
I love yf23 too
The narrator of this video said "first stealth aircraft" not "fighter," so that was indeed incorrect.
At the beginning you said that the Raptor entered service with Army. It was the Air Force.
Hard to believe they didn't have a hmcs when the f16 built in the 70s had them.
Korean: I want F22
Mom: We got F22 at home
point at KF21
Several people have already made note, but I thin the narrator meant to say the first stealth fighter. Personally I think instead of making it a bomber aircraft keep it in it's role of stealth fighter. Upgrade where and whenever possible in regards to taking on other aircraft. If Air to air missles become smaller well then see if we an fit more inside of it. As radar's improve upgrade it's radar etc.
As I understand it the F22 was developed as primary stand off dog fighting platform mainly to counter Russia as a replacement for our F16s. During the development the world changed and dog fighting became a thing of the past. We suddenly needed a multi-role fighter to fight the new wars (Iraq & Afghanistan), so the F22 was virtually abandoned in favor of the F35 JSF platform.
I think so too. Actually, the only advantages of the F-22 on the F-35 are its better stealth capabilities and supermaneuverability.
Well with the upgrades, the F-22 will be more than capable as an Air-Ground fighter as well. Especially when you pair it with the F-35 on missions.
NOT the first Stealth. The F-117 and the B-2 Bombers were first, and as long as it remains the baddest Fighter on the Planet...I'm cool with it!!
Well the F-22 is the already the best stealth fighter, if it's getting these upgrades, it most likely will stay that way.
OF COURCE THEY HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE UPGRADED VERSION SO THE PILOT'S CAN USE THEM TO THE FULL CAPACITY AND STAY BETTER TO THE 60'S 🇩🇰❤️LOVE THAT AIRCRAFT 🇩🇰❤️.
🇩🇰❤️🇩🇰 COPENHAGEN ❤️🇩🇰❤️ DENMARK 🇩🇰❤️🇩🇰.
They should have built more!!!! Build more!
this guy dosent know what hes talking about
Its bad ass love it ! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😎
You got me at US Army
Should have taken the f22 airframe and gutted all avionics, electronics, targeting... everything then completely update the whole platform.
This would have made a truly cutting edge plane. It could have easily housed all the f35's bs. But also maintain its fighter characteristics
f 35 is not on par with the raptor. it's good, and can defeat a LOT of targets with similar systems to the 22 and a few extras, but the f 35 was designed to do everything so it does them all ok. had they made the 35 for a singular role, then yes it'd probably stand out as much as the raptor. as it is, it's a cousin who isn't as good. it's a capable plane, but against a raptor, it'd be lunch.
It does have many sensors. Just none of those that require a forward facing window, which would increase its radar signature. It still took ten racks of stimulation gear to test it down at the Hughes Anechoic Chamber in Texas, just like the F-35 did. There were actually only a handful of sensors that did not get included. One is obvious. Looking at the F-35 nose, one can see the optical pod PROTRUDING on it. The F-35 sacrificed a small amount of increased head on radar signature with that. No such animal hanging on the F-22. Oh and it is a truly cutting edge plane, silly.
Awsom platform as a fighter Short strategy engagement
The army operates the F-22?
The F22 is NOT the world's first stealth aircraft! Who editts this, Mr. No One? I often enjoy your content, but huge mistakes like this make us doubt your information.
I feel like some people don't know that the f22 has thrust vectoring muzzle
If it is being anounced that upgrades are being done, it's a guaranteed that the aircraft has had and used them for quite a while now. Plus a lot of stuff we will never know about.
Exactly. The full capabilities of the F-22 will probably remain secret beyond our lifetime
The first stealth aircraft was the Horten Ho 229, all the way back in late WWII by the German forces. Good thing the end of WWII made sure the plane was never put into production.
Still, America does not deserve the credit for having the first stealth aircraft.
The Horten 229 was not a stealth aircraft whatsoever. Horten made claims later that it was stealth, first to the Chinese when he tried to sell the design and again later, but all studies and tests proved that it was not at all a stealth aircraft.
I wonder how much it costs for the upgrades?