appreciate the test, but there is a huge error to this: your scale will never be precise under 1g. and even if it was: 0,2g means anything between 1,50g and 2,49g. to put this in perspective: 0,2 could mean, it's 0,20g on both, or it's 1,50g on one, and 2,49g on the other, which would be a 66% difference. so the error span could be 132% which is insanely high. keep in mind, this is still under the unrealistic assumption that the scale even can do precise measurements for so little masses. if the scale has errors in readings, this would be even higher. so this test, while it seems scientific, is no test at all. you'd have to grind huge amounts of coffee to get a proper result. let's say something around 20g of micro grounds, which would require an amount of 1500g of coffee. times two. so please everyone, take this with a grain of salt
@@beefvalve yes i understand that there is a complete lapse on the scale - thats why i got another scale just for the microfines. But i only use it to measure below 0.1g - and i agree this is not scientific test. This test is just an estimation. This only shows you that by doing the slowfeed test we can change something in the dynamics of the coffee grounds.
This is interesting but I find the K6 to produce too few fines to begin with. But I am using it for espresso, and I prioritize body over clarity. I am not a huge fan of filter coffee but I get company that is often, so it was a good buy, imo. I use it with my Picopress when I travel, for decaf so I don't have to adjust my main grinder and for pour overs for guest. I've considered a J-Ultra from 1Zpersso for as a dedicated single doser for espresso for when I feel like switching things up as I hear it produces more fines and has more body but am unsure if I will actually get one. Cool video, thank you for showing us the difference.
Finally. My most awaited episode. Haha. Excited sa Zp6 video. Been doing the slowfeeding for quite sometime now. I can taste the difference between the two grinding methods but I don’t know if it’s only a placebo effect. Curious what’s gonna be the results like when you do the test master! Great video btw!
Yes, of course there should be a difference in taste, but is it going to be worth it? are you sacrificing richness of the flavor when you do this? So watch out for the next episodes to know bec I will be doing this test and we are going to brew it.
Thanks my friend, surprise results it's really work I was think it's only for electric grinder because it's very fast. Next grinder we want the zp6 please 😅
Cool! I had never heard of slowfeeding before. Are you going to do a blind or triangle taste test at some point? I'd be interested to hear how much of a difference in taste a 50% reduction in fines makes and if it's worth it vs the extra grind time :)
Yes ill be doing the taste test soon. I dont know if i will be able to do a blind test but yes im excited to see too if the juice was worth the squeeze specially if you use it in competitions.
@@darylbuenocoffee Ah, right, you'd have to grind, then put the grinds into some warm and dry place for a while and only then you'd probably be able to separate the fines by shaking in the sifter. But anyway, on a subjective scale, what are your thoughts? I've just stumbled upon one guy on Reddit saying "to reduce fines, RDT + slow feeding is the way to go", and others claiming that it makes grinding smoother/easier, but I don't think I noticed any of the effects.
@@_APV_ doing RDT actually does 2 things for your coffee. 1. It softens the beans - reducing the tendency to shatter, hence lower fines. 2. Fines would actually cling to mids and boulders making visible fines in a way disappear visually (but technically they are still there) but when they cling on to the bigger particles they actually are positioned better when brewing and they somehow avoid being over extracted in a way.
Im not sure but it is actually a rubber footing for just about anything. you might find something in your local hardware store. Where are you located anyway?
@@darylbuenocoffee Nevermind, found it! I'm based in Poland but I found two listings, one in my country and one on Aliexpress with similar rubber footings with 50mm diameter so it should fit as K6 has 52mm.
I tried slow feeding when I saw this video, first time hearing of it, and it improved my coffee brewing a pot thanks you so much
you are very much welcome :) enjoy!
Thanks I’m going to try it.
Great video. I’ve found that the extraction can change by almost 1% when comparing regular vs slow feed.
Thank you! Yes this is true
Solid content! keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
appreciate the test, but there is a huge error to this: your scale will never be precise under 1g. and even if it was: 0,2g means anything between 1,50g and 2,49g. to put this in perspective: 0,2 could mean, it's 0,20g on both, or it's 1,50g on one, and 2,49g on the other, which would be a 66% difference. so the error span could be 132% which is insanely high. keep in mind, this is still under the unrealistic assumption that the scale even can do precise measurements for so little masses. if the scale has errors in readings, this would be even higher. so this test, while it seems scientific, is no test at all. you'd have to grind huge amounts of coffee to get a proper result. let's say something around 20g of micro grounds, which would require an amount of 1500g of coffee. times two.
so please everyone, take this with a grain of salt
@@beefvalve yes i understand that there is a complete lapse on the scale - thats why i got another scale just for the microfines. But i only use it to measure below 0.1g - and i agree this is not scientific test. This test is just an estimation. This only shows you that by doing the slowfeed test we can change something in the dynamics of the coffee grounds.
@@darylbuenocoffee well you wouldnt need a scale for a rough estimation then. 😄
@@beefvalve hahahah! Really? Are you bored?
@@darylbuenocoffee i could ask the same: are you bored maling videos that dont make sense? 😂
@@beefvalve actually im having fun :) im not forcing you to watch them :) but hey thanks for watching! :)
This is interesting but I find the K6 to produce too few fines to begin with. But I am using it for espresso, and I prioritize body over clarity. I am not a huge fan of filter coffee but I get company that is often, so it was a good buy, imo. I use it with my Picopress when I travel, for decaf so I don't have to adjust my main grinder and for pour overs for guest. I've considered a J-Ultra from 1Zpersso for as a dedicated single doser for espresso for when I feel like switching things up as I hear it produces more fines and has more body but am unsure if I will actually get one.
Cool video, thank you for showing us the difference.
Finally. My most awaited episode. Haha. Excited sa Zp6 video. Been doing the slowfeeding for quite sometime now. I can taste the difference between the two grinding methods but I don’t know if it’s only a placebo effect. Curious what’s gonna be the results like when you do the test master! Great video btw!
Yes, of course there should be a difference in taste, but is it going to be worth it? are you sacrificing richness of the flavor when you do this? So watch out for the next episodes to know bec I will be doing this test and we are going to brew it.
Thanks my friend, surprise results it's really work I was think it's only for electric grinder because it's very fast. Next grinder we want the zp6 please 😅
Yes yes, dont worry we will go through all the grinders that i own and i can borrow :)
really cool stuff
@@kovakafa3244 thank you!
Cool! I had never heard of slowfeeding before. Are you going to do a blind or triangle taste test at some point? I'd be interested to hear how much of a difference in taste a 50% reduction in fines makes and if it's worth it vs the extra grind time :)
Yes ill be doing the taste test soon. I dont know if i will be able to do a blind test but yes im excited to see too if the juice was worth the squeeze specially if you use it in competitions.
@@darylbuenocoffee Awesome! I look forward to seeing it.
Have you tested what effect does moisturising beans slightly (RDT) have on the grind distribution?
@@_APV_ yes i have :) but when you do RDT on these tests we will not be able to separate the microfines from other particles.
@@darylbuenocoffee Ah, right, you'd have to grind, then put the grinds into some warm and dry place for a while and only then you'd probably be able to separate the fines by shaking in the sifter.
But anyway, on a subjective scale, what are your thoughts? I've just stumbled upon one guy on Reddit saying "to reduce fines, RDT + slow feeding is the way to go", and others claiming that it makes grinding smoother/easier, but I don't think I noticed any of the effects.
@@_APV_ doing RDT actually does 2 things for your coffee.
1. It softens the beans - reducing the tendency to shatter, hence lower fines.
2. Fines would actually cling to mids and boulders making visible fines in a way disappear visually (but technically they are still there) but when they cling on to the bigger particles they actually are positioned better when brewing and they somehow avoid being over extracted in a way.
Very interesting!
Thank you! Did you try it?
I just tilt off center at least 20-30 degrees to slow feed.
That's great!
Does slowfeeding only use the one side of the grinder ? Making it very uneven when you go back to normal grinding ?
Hmm, i dont know if the coffee can actually undo the burr
hey, where did you buy that black silicone footing? is it available on Aliexpress by any chance?
Im not sure but it is actually a rubber footing for just about anything. you might find something in your local hardware store. Where are you located anyway?
@@darylbuenocoffee Nevermind, found it! I'm based in Poland but I found two listings, one in my country and one on Aliexpress with similar rubber footings with 50mm diameter so it should fit as K6 has 52mm.
@@coldyy21 yes the one that i used is the 50mm as well - it gives a nice tucked fit :)
@@darylbuenocoffee thanks a lot ♥️
@@coldyy21 of course :) no problem :)
Please try mischief m40, sir! 😬
I will borrow a mischief one of these days. I know a friend who owns one :)