High praise for your review, you are really hitting all the points that one could want for this grinder (I’m an owner of the K6). Best review in terms of detail and quality I have seen or read on the K6 (and i have really been down a rabbit hole on this one) 👌
On the strengh of your video I bought the K6 for use with my Moka pot. I am generally pleased with it ecept for the wooden knob that is very wobbly on the handle and I don't know how long it will stay on but I see that on another review you had the wooden knob come off a grinder over twice as much. Keep up the good work.
Great review! This seems to be a very underrated hand grinder. I've been using a K6 for about seven months now, mostly brewing with a Flair Espresso maker and an Aeropress. It has been an excellent grinder with zero issues (I haven't even cleaned it properly yet) and its a big upgrade from my old Breville Smart Grinder. I paid about $150 at the time and it was still worth it, at $99 it's an absolute steal for this quality of grinder. I ended up choosing this over the 1Zpresso line (K-Pro/Plus, J-Max, etc.) as it was about $60-$100 cheaper than most of those grinders, but (according to Lance Hedrick) was still pretty close in terms of flavor profile. I don't regret my choice at all and would definitely recommend this grinder to anyone looking for a great value grinder.
This has to be one of the most complete reviews for any of the hand coffee grinders! I liked the details that you went into, from the teardown to the grind and brew times using different grind settings, and the tasing notes for both brews. I ordered the K6 and it should arrive tomorrow. Cheers!! ☕😁
Yeah, I see this was a year ago. Just updating for anyone else that watches this excellent review...I paused and got this off of Amazon with a $30.00 coupon available. Price with discount was 99.00. I'm a happy camper!
@@coffeenerdaaron To make it a 100% perfect review in my eyes, I'd like to see it used with an electric screwdriver. They encourage it in their manual and made it easy since the hexagonal metal piece is 1/4 inch, so you can just use the 1/4 nut bit. P.S. also a particle analyzer would be cool, but I know that's asking way too much, lol. I found it to produce a bit more fines than I expected when grinding at 80 for french press, for something that is praised for it's clarity, but I guess some fines are inevitable?
This was such a great review man, the teardown was literally the best and easiest to follow that I've ever seen on any of the big name coffee influencers' channels. Perfect mix of subjectivity and objectivity. Fully informative, yet entertaining. So glad you're making videos sir, please keep it up!
I use the the handle knob like a hammer and bang on the body around the rubber part, that clears most of what's retained. I've been so happy with this grinder as my first big investment on this pour over adventure. If I really need to improve clarity I just sift it a bit in a tea strainer, might shake out about a gram of fines depending on the beans. I'm excited about new heights of flavor with a better grinder but this one has been a delightful entry point.
If you gotta sift a whole gram of fines for taste improvement then the grinder gotta be trash or your settings are wrong lol. I wonder how that "fines" benchmark compares to some decent Baratza or Fellow Ode.
I just got this grinder to use with my flair classic. Both are new to me and it's the start of my espresso adventure. It's a great grinder that can defenitly go espresso fine (and a lot further) I've seen some people talking about rust or bad bearings. Mine came with a bad bearing. But kingrinder handled it amazing and sent me a new grinder (body) free of charge. DISCLAIMER: DON'T WRECK YOUR GRINDER IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING: I decided to investigate and you're able to change the inner 2 bearings too. After disassembly you can take off the adjustment ring, by turning all the way up to fine untill it comes off. That gets the top bearing and ring out of the way and gives you acces to the bearing they are pressed in with some retaining compound. Heat them up and give them a tap, use a punch or screwdriver to go through the top to the bottom, and vice versa. Then you can install new ones with some retaining compound again. This normally shouldn't be necessary ever. But it's good to know it's possible. Kingrinder says you can't take it apart witouth specialty tools. That's probably a good recommendation but not totally true
I super appreciate breaking down the unit at the beginning. I do have one of these, and it's been great. Mine came with a straight handle, which I actually prefer. One thing that would have been better is if the click scale was more clear. The 1, 2, 3, 4 sections on the main body scale indicate how many times you went pass 0, and there are 60 clicks for each full rotation as mentioned in the video. The click scale numbers on the rotating part only go up to 50. Anyway, the 1 through 4 scale would have been better showing 60, 120 etc on the main body portion, so you can tell exactly what grind setting you have when adjusting up or down instead of having to zero out in the correct direction and starting over every time you want to change from your last setting. Nit picking? Maybe, but this would have made it more satisfying for sure. This device punches above it price point either way.
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I own a K6 since 9 months. It is already broken. I haven't used it a lot. Only a couple of weeks during holidays. Currently, I can still grind beans but it is impossible to disassemble the grinder to clean it. I have contacted Kingrinder and they just say I don't have warranty because they suspect rust and that I can purchase parts if needed and IF I'm able to disassemble it. Very disappointing.
@@_CazaBobos I wasn't able to disassemble the grinder anymore. The grinding discs were stuck. At the end Amazon had very good service (I purchased at at Kingrinder via Amazon). They took the grinder back and refunded me for 100%. Amazon clearly knows better than Kingrinder what service means.
@@MihailDadun It was always stored inside. In a very dry house. I was not able to disassemble it so I'm not sure it was rust. At the end I was able to return the K6 with full refund. Not because of Kingrinder allowed the return but because Amazon took it back after I complained about Kingrinders bad service (it was purchased via Amazon). So really good service from Amazon!
Really enjoyed your take on this fantastic little grinder. I only use it for espresso shots and it provides more than enough grinding range to fine tune any beans that I have tried. Even pulling ristreto, first thing in the morning, is fun and easy now (compared to the hassle with previous timemore c3 grinder). On the side note, camera angle is great, lighting perfect. Could use a bit more touch on the editing side but, overall, great video. Thumbs up.
This is interesting and helpful to see. I have been using the K6 with a Gaggia Carezza with its pressurized portafilter. With that set up I am finding I have from 33-39 clicks works best from the darker through to lighter roasts, interestingly finer than you did. I am switching to an unpressurized portafilter which can be done on my machine and have been told to go finer when i do. After watching your video I am not so sure! I will start at 35 and go from there but maybe not use my special bag of beans I am about to open, I might waste a few shots getting this right! Up to this point I am very happy with the K6 though, not used it for anything other than espresso so far but after watching your video I might try pour over with it.
K4 user guide actually shows that you should remove the black o-ring if you use the hand crank with the white o-ring. The black o-ring should stay if you intend to grind with a power drill...
Arron, I mentioned that I had this grinder in one of your videos or another, but I don't remember if it was this one. Anyway, thought I'd give an update. My zero point has moved from -4 to -9 in around 60 days of use. I also seem to be getting more fines that I was before as well. The base of the unit is pretty beat up where the catch cup connects. Not that it makes any difference in use. Also, I don't care for the ring around the top of the inside of the unit as it gets gunked up with coffee and is hard to clean. Having said that, it still grinds smooth and quickly. I get good shots from 2-4 different clicks depending on the coffee. It seems to be good for the price I paid for it with coupon, $100. But it does make me wonder how much better something like a 1Zpresso or Kinu is in quality. Oh, I've put right around 2 kilograms of coffee through it so far fwiw. (Mostly Onyx and CCC with an agtron of 72-52, for reference.) Can't wait to see what video you release next. Keep up the good work and thank you. (Edit: It was this video that I mentioned it. The comment right below, how silly of me to miss it. LOL. I need more coffee it seems.)
Thanks for sharing your update! To be honest with the amount of grinders I currently have I haven’t been using this one very much! I do want to revisit some hand grinder content though. I do now have the Turin HG40, it would be nice to get a few more budget hand grinders and do some comparisons.
@@coffeenerdaaron Just another little update. Another two weeks and another 10 clicks added to the zero point. That is now reading -19. This is actually getting quite annoying. As long as I know where the zero point is, it isn't a big deal, but I have to zero it out to find true zero every week or so. I know when it is getting out of whack when my shot times are fairly off (I frequently adjust because I drink two roast levels.) I think something that can be recalibrated, like the J-Max, is in my future. For reference I grind about 600 grams of coffee a week with the K6.
Still at -19 clicks for zero so that hasn't moved. The O-Ring that holds the lid to the handle gave out. The rubber grip is loose but still intact. The coffee quality, when ground, is still great. Better than my ESP, without question. I'd guess it produces less fines. That said, I don't use it as much as I did before getting the ESP. It is less practical for me. So, I cannot comment on the shape it would have been in had I kept grinding at the rate I had been. Personally, if I had to buy it again, I'd spend more on something from 1Zpresso if I were going to use it daily. But that is a loaded statement too as I don't own one to say it is built any better. There are plenty of people who love theirs though. @@kmo475
It was a very nice, really fair and objective review. I am using K2 handgrinder and as you said, as a price it is definitely fantastic grinder. I have a Ceado e37sd grinder but sometimes I grind some coffee from K2 and make an espresso for different taste of conical burrs. After your review i am considering about to upgrade to K6 maybe. Thanks for video…
Just subscribed and placed order for a K6. Thank you for an excellent review. I have a Lido 2 that is quite a bit larger that I use when traveling in our car. I will be doing some flying so I wanted to get a good grinder, a bit smaller, that would work for pour over and Aero press. The fact that this works for espresso is a bonus. I do roast my own coffee and am always intrigued by the flavor profiles of the beans, especially the fruit bombs. Would you mind sharing the name and source of the beans you were using? Thanks for a great review!
Thanks for watching and commenting! If memory serves the coffee I was using was a Natural Ethiopia Chelbesa from Brandywine Coffee Roasters. I too love very fruity and bright coffees, I’m a sucker for a good natural previews Colombia 😜
@@coffeenerdaaron Thanks Aaron, Natural Ethiopians are my all time favorite. I am upgrading my system so I can tweak the profiles out of the beans. Currently running a DB Vivaldi and Mahlkonig and looking at a Decent with DE64. The K6 will be my travel grinder. thanks for the reply, love your channel.
Ok, 1 year review... love this grinder. I use it for both aero press and espresso (with robot). It is super simple to switch between the 2 settings and super simple to dial in. I can't think of a better budget setup than this and the aeropress. If I'm really really tired, the hand grind becomes a chore, but generally it's a nice way to wake up. I'm done grinding by the time the water is heated (oxo pour over kettle - do they still make these?). The only problem I had was when I first used it it stopped grinding. I still don't know why, but I took it apart, found nothing amiss, put it back together and it magically worked. Zero problems since. Great review Aaron. The tear down especially. Wish I had seen this at the time, that little staple that holds it together was a bit confusing.
Happy to have stumbled upon this video and your channel when looking for a new hand grinder. Subscribed! Love your aesthetic and looking forward to future videos. Cheers!
Yeah, i have my k4 more than 2 yrs and love it. But the only thing you need to remove one of the rubber rings from the lid - if you want to use handle, then remove the outer black one, if you want to use electric drill - then remove internal white one.
I have one of these, and it's been my daily driver for about a year and a half now. I love it!... but my shoulder has been giving me trouble lately so I need to upgrade to an electric grinder. I'd like to do that without sacrificing much (if any) quality, but I also don't have much budget (I'd like to stay under $200, but would consider $300, so maybe an Ode 2 on Cyber Monday?) For brewing, I can't afford an espresso machine (and I don't know if I ever will), so I use an Aeropress with James Hoffmann's espresso-like method (it makes strong brews a lot like what Cometeer ships). I grind not quite espresso-fine (60 clicks), and use 18g of coffee to 90ml of water, inverted, with a 90 second immersion then 30 seconds after a swirl and flip. Most days, I make two of these, one for me, one for my partner, as iced lattes. Once a week or so I make a hot latte or cappuccino (with a Maestri House milk frother, which is a _wonderful_ piece of kit if you want to foam milk without a steam wand, and makes a damn fine hot cocoa, too). Very rarely I'll go coarser and do a more typical Aeropress brew at a 10:250 ratio, but mostly I do the "espresso-like" recipe, like 99% of the time or more. As for coffees, I have a Trade subscription and prefer the lighter side of medium, or the darker side of light roasts. My favorite roaster is Sightglass, with their Blueboon and Toketee blends my favorites, and their Hunky Dory decaf just magical, but I also like Familia Peixoto, Cuvee's House Blend, Feast's Power & Glory, and PT's flatlander. Mostly approachable blends with a bit of a twist, but nothing too exotic... usually washed, or maybe the occasional blend with some natural. I'm looking pretty seriously at a Fellow Opus, which seems like it's kind of the equivalent of the K6 but electrified, but also considering an Ode 2, or an Ode with the burr upgrade. Any recommendations? Or anything I'm obviously overlooking?
I think an Opus would serve you well. It’s a great burr and motor for the money! And if you’re doing mostly “espresso like” brews a conical flavor profile is probably what you prefer 😊
@@coffeenerdaaron Thanks! To be fair, I've never had anything from a flat burr... well, I suppose Cometeer (which I did for a few months as I got into specialty coffee to make sure I was into it enough before investing in gear to make my own). There isn't exactly much coffee culture where I live... Anyway, yeah, I think I'll get an Opus. I might wait to see if they go on sale for the holidays. I think my shoulder has another 60 or so grinds in it. xD
@@coffeenerdaaron Hey, I thought you'd be interested to know... I got my new Fellow Opus yesterday, and I adore it! My KinGrinder K6 served me very well, but so far the 'shots' I pull from the Opus are absolutely amazing! So much more depth and nuance, it's like zooming in on what the coffee has to offer, yet also getting a clearer view of the big picture. It took the roast I'm on right now (Airship's Buffalo Blend) from kind of "just a cup of joe" to something much richer and more interesting and yet also somehow leaning into the "just a cuppa" in a really good way. I'm not sure if it's because of what you said, about the flavor profile of a conical burr being my preference (the Kingrinder is conical, but it's kind of built to aim for the clarity of a flat burr), or just because I'm not physically capable of grinding anywhere near as fine as the Opus does with the push of a button (the K6 is absolutely capable of super-fine grinds, but the force and effort required is beyond me at this point), but the coffee is amazing! I had a dessert decaf latte last night (Sightglass "Hunky Dory") that was just _magical,_ silky, buttery mouth-feel (with ice, whole milk, splenda, and a splash of half-and-half). Hunky Dory is legit one of my favorite coffees, full stop, which blew my mind since it's decaf and that usually comes with big sacrifices... but still, I wasn't surprised to get an amazing iced latte out of it with a finer grind. But to take Airship's normally so-so profile and make it this smooth and inviting, too? I'm impressed! Thanks for your advice! You didn't steer me wrong, and while it was a long wait, I got it for $156 on Black Friday, which I'm _very_ pleased with for what I got.
@barefootalien fanatic! Glad to hear you’re having success with your coffee! I’ve not tried that coffee from Sightglass but I’ll have to give it a shot… pun intended! 😝
@@coffeenerdaaron I love everything I've tried from Sightglass. They seem like they have an extremely deft touch with the roast. Of the three blends carried by Trade, Toketee is the darkest, though still quite light by espresso standards. Blueboon is a lovely, approachable light roast blend, super clean with astonishingly present chocolate notes with sweet citrus and a beautiful thread of subtle, sweet florals. Their tasting notes are milk chocolate, mandarin, and honeysuckle, and that totally makes sense, though I don't get the honeysuckle or mandarin quite as much. Hunky Dory's notes are Toffee, Red Grape, and Bergamot, and yeah... those toasty-buttery notes playing with the undertone of fresh fruit are fabulous, and I've been finding I very much appreciate a touch of citrus notes in my coffee. Plus I'm a big fan of Earl Grey tea, (Harney & Sons' Earl Grey Supreme, omg...) so bringing that bergamot in is just... Mmm. I _believe_ it's just a basic solvent process, which surprised me. I was looking to try something more 'progressive' like a supercritical CO2 process, as the last decaf I got, which was Swiss Water Process, was super bland and uninteresting, like it'd had the soul ripped out of it. But I decided since I love Blueboon and Toketee so much, to try their take on decaf, and... wow!
Is there really a point to using RDT with this grinder? I never really get static, and it is in an enclosed cup so idk what the point of doing it is? Is there a benefit?
I’ve noticed it helps reduce the amount of fines and particles left stuck to the bottom of the burrs, I think overall it helps keep things a bit cleaner but to your point not necessary.
Is that a not neutral Vero you are drinking the shot from? If so, which size? Looks to be larger than 3 oz but it is hard to tell in videos. Curious because I drink mostly lungo and short ratio americanos. I was thinking about getting the cortado sized glasses (that is what I drink on the rare occasion that I have a milk drink). PS: I come back to reference this video when I change coffee/machines. I too have a K6 (zero point -4) and I enjoy using it. It is nice to have something to compare my results to. As always, thank you.
Hi Kit! It's actually just a generic Gibraltar cup I bought at a home goods store. It came in a pack of 2. These are 4oz cups I believe. I do have several Not Neutral cups including the Smoked Vero espresso cups and the Emerald Vero Cortado cups. I also have some of their Lino latte cups and mugs. I almost always drink a filter brew from a Lino mug, they are so enjoyable to drink from and I love the handle feel. Thanks for the comment and for watching!!!
I read it was due to potential legal problems from being too similar to the 1zpresso ones. I still just ordered the bent handle from Amazon though, just pick the other model number that doesn't say straight handle
I just received my K6 and started grinding for espresso and found it to be very difficult to grind. I have a flair 58 and I have to grind finer than normal, but I’ve seen other videos of people grinding and it looks fairly easy. Have you experienced a lot of difficulty with grinding for espresso?
The finer you grind the more difficult it gets with a hand grinder, that’s one of the draw backs to them. That’s why I don’t use it much for espresso. I pretty much just use it for pour over or Aeropress when traveling. You could try using a drill!!!
Hi Josh! I have the same problem with the K4, it is very VERY difficult to grind for an espresso, it takes me about 3 minutes and I have to stop to rest my hands and sometimes the grinder gets stuck and It's so hard to begin again. I've seen other videos too and it looks so much easier. Did you get any solution? I don't think I could do this three times per day... :( I was wondering if there might be a problem with my Kingrinder. Thanks
Hey man! I wanted to ask if you could make any direct comparisons between this and more expensive hand grinders. I brew 90% pour over, 10% espresso. Ive been looking at the 1zpresso X-pro and ZP6
Awesome, thanks for watching!!! unfortunately I don't really do Moka Pot so Im not 100% sure on the grind size to recommend. I would just say try to visually compare some grinds to what you normally do in the Moka and then go by your preferences for taste.
I got fed up with Timemore's finicky quality control and frankly, lack of online resources (because most people use other grinders) and grabbed this. Lucky the Chestnut X was a freebie for me so no loss there. I was very worried, based on the design and 'drill mode' option, that it would be like the 1ZPresso J-Max I had and returned after a couple days: You gotta be fucking Hercules to grind beans in that thing on finer settings or lighter roast on coarse settings. I mean, it was a whole circle of Hell. One step forward, two steps back to unjam the thing, literally out of breath by the end some twenty, thirty minutes later... The K6 here gave some resistance and asked me to work my arms (grinding for espresso just to test it) but that 1Z was a whole other level. I can't impress adequately how hellish that thing was. So I'm grateful that the K6 is you know...Practically functional. And it wasn't $400 like the equivalent 1ZPresso probably is... I'm wondering if it'd be doable to swap the K6 burrs for the S2C burrs on the Chestnut.
Thanks for sharing your experiences! I'll be honest I'm not a fan of hand grinders, I know there are some good ones out there but for the money it just doesn't make since in my head. The cost to enjoyment of use scale is pretty skewed! Outside of camping or maybe a long day hike I have no reason to use a hand grinder, nut I know a lot of people love them. For the money I think the K6 is one of the best, but I have no idea about swapping burrs. I imagine if the outside dimensions of the stationary burr are the same, and the inner burr fits on the shaft correctly it would work no problem. Report back if you do it!
Tips for Chemex? Could be personal preference, but I was using a cheap grinder that did not have espresso ability, and the grinds were amazing for it. Now I just got the K6, and I’m stuck. K6 recommends 160 clicks for Chemex, which for me is way to course loses all the flavor. But going 75-90 is way to fine, it’s all mud. I think I’ll eventually find it, but was wondering if you had a sweet spot for Chemex and K6.
I don’t have a sweet spot for the Chemex cause I don’t brew with one anymore. All I can say, like you said, is that it’s personal preference and you just have to experiment until you find what you like. Sorry I don’t have a more concrete answer but there are so many variables that impact the overall taste, and personal preference is a big factor.
She's going to kill me.. But, my b-day is coming up, and idk how long it'll be sitting at this price. Hoo boy, I did it. Wish me luck! Thanks Nerd.. You and Burning Puppet's "Timemore Chestnut C2 & Kingrinder K6 Comparison" made this hard decision worth the risk..
Hey great video! Do you have an Idea how to calibrate it so that it’s fully closed when it shows the number 0. I know that it doesn’t matter but I would like it if it stood at zero 😅
Thanks! And I know this is a common question a lot of us have about this grinder. I don’t know how calibrate it to fix this issue, I don’t think you can but I’ll try to reach out to KINgrinder and see if I can get an answer.
Hello Nice video. I got mine today. My 0 is at -25 which is a bit much but it seems normal on hand grinder as I've read on Reddit. I wanted to know about your 60 clicks for V60. According to recommandation of kingrinder its more 90-120. Is it you preference to do a finer V60 ? Sorry for the newbie question but i am just getting into coffee so all of that is completely new for me.
The manual said to remove the black o-ring when using the white o-ring and attaching the handle to the PC lid. I noticed you had both on, for me removing the lid would always dislodge the white o-ring, when pulling up by the handle. Do you pull up from the lid?
Great review. I have been a pourover guy until I just purchased a Picopresso to dip my toes in the espresso arena. However hearing my Timemore Chestnut C2 is not going to cut it and this may be a good option. Any recommendation of a budget single dose electric that would be equivalent? I prefer medium to darker roasts. Mor chocolaty nutty notes more than citrus or floral. Thanks for any input. New sub.
I do not brew French Press very often and Haven't used this grinder for that brewing method but it depends on a few factors like the coffee your brewing and your taste preferences. I would say start courser than you think you need too, like maybe 120-130 clicks then go finer till its tasting good to you without being over extracted. Since I don't know what coffee youre brewing its hard to say, just experiment till you find what you like.
So that was a 15g:50ml ratio am I getting this right? At a fairly "fine" setting. I thought you do pour overs quite course. If Moka is supposed to be around 70clicks, and you can pour over at 60, espresso at a much lower click. What's the point of the remaining 200 clicks or what not here?
You're going to have a hard time finding someone to recommend the Timemore over the K6. Plus the K6 goes on sale a lot so you'll get a nicer grinder for less $
It just depends on the coffee and brewing method. While 35-45 clicks works well for me for espresso it may not work for you, you’ll just have to experiment till you get results you’re happy with.
Either lightly spray the beans with a fine mister before grinding or wet your finger under the faucet and stir the beans with your wet finger. Search a video for more info.
I've been using the K6 to grind for Espresso from 60-70 clicks depending on the roast and beans, at the beginning it was perfectly smooth but now the rubber starts to move as I grind which is weird. Does anyone experience similar behavior where the rubber starts to move and isn't held in place?
@@Carado5150 If I use less clicks the shot won't go through the portafilter. I'm using the delonghi ecp 3420 with the bottomless portafilter and ims basket.
Hi there, K4 user here and had the same issue with rubber sleeve after somewhat 10kg of beans through. Removed it and wrapped the grinder with the karakal PU grip for squash rackets. It has added a couple of mm's in girth and became more solid in hand which I only welcome...and doesn't seem like it will need a replacement any time soon)) Also, can't not appreciate your setup - myself been modding ec230bk for a year now and absolutely happy with the results for my buck) Cheers!
I have not used the K2 so I can’t give you a definitive answer, however if the quality of the K6 is this good at this price point I imagine the K2 is way better than anything you’re going to get in it’s same price point 😝
Anyone else impressed with the grind time of this unit? I've used faster, but this gets my espresso beans done in good time! Again, this punches above it's price point.
It’s not that you can’t, I just typically haven’t in the past with hand grinders cause they don’t usually have much retention or static build up. There is less static build up with lower rpm, and you can smack them into the palm of your hand to get all the grinds into the dosing cup. I will say though with some of the new research showing the benefits of RDT not only from a retention perspective but also when it comes to Triboelectrification and increased extraction, I would say it’s not a bad idea! I made this video before some of that research was out 😊
It is crazy how almost all the parts look pretty much exactly like the 1zpresso K series. Outside the weird little magnetic clip, it's basically identical. Prooooobably the same factory. At 1/2-1/3 the price… I think I can overlook the lack of magnetic catchcup and the awkward clip. 😅
I have this k6, the amount of times I've hit my knuckles from the terrible o-ring design with a plastic cover and another o-ring on the edges is just wrong. It slips, doesn't fit well even after greasing. I tossed that terrible silicone ring and replaced it with a proper o-ring.
I used Q2 Heptagonal for over a year and loved it. But the limites capacity of 18g and the time It took to grind for espresso made me upgrade to the K6. The external ajustment, the flavour profile and the speed are so much better than Q2
@@Andres-tr5sg that's strange it should not be too hard, just remove the black ring and attach the small white one at center around the metal piece not the plastic
Good video but like everyone else (including Kingrinder) you don't show us how to put coffee beans into this thing .... Do you just prise that plastic lid off and put them in the top .... For the life of me I can't get the plastic lid off mine ....????
I’m not too familiar with Turkish coffee so I don’t know the exact grind size needed but I have stalled my Breville Dual Boiler with the grinder so it can for very fine!
They are basically the same grinder but the K4 has titanium coated burrs which is more ideal for espresso and bringing a little more sweetness out of darker roasts where the K6 is better for various brewing methods and lighter roasted coffees. They have a good comparison on their website… www.kingrinder.com/blog/comp-k4-k6
I bought this grinder a few months ago after watching this video, today I am sending it back to Amazon after realizing the inner bearings are rusted. The brand is not giving me support even being under warranty, so I had no choice..
Any thoughts on the k6 vs zp6 vs kmax for filter coffee? Although the 1zpresso ones are more expensive, this k6 seems to offer more (48mm heptagonal burr with 16 micron external adjustment). Thank you for sharing!
No, if it was retaining 10 grams of coffee that would insane! 😂 maybe they’re listed weight doesn’t include the lid or something, I don’t know, but it was more just a funny moment I left in the video. The weight really isn’t an important issue 😝☕️
I notice you're using the black and white o'ring together. That's not the way it was intended to be used. That is why you claim you have not had a problem with the handle falling out. Be honest in your review. Take out the black one and install the white one and the handle and plastic cover is not secure. The black o'ring is for use when using an electric drill to grind. Unlike other grinders that have a magnetic shaft or a tighter tolerance between handle and shaft this does not and it is very loose.
based on your comments, I will order this grinder and maybe you can help me understand the expresso dial ins. Still in the box but I have a "Flair NEO Flex" .. Comes with Flow-Control Portafilter which they say just uses standard store bought grinds and then there is the bottomless 2-in-1 Portafilter and this one scares me quite a lot and, it is the reason for picking up this grinder. Now my question... any idea what setting on this grinder will allow me to pull a decent shot w/o risking a no flow shot or breakage of the flex itself? It seems that grinding a good shot is not the easiest thing to do regardless of machines, but I would love to know a starting point, if one even exists :) thanks.
Obviously you want a smaller micron adjustment per click for espresso but for the price and being decent, not great, but decent for both I think it makes for a nice cost effective alternative for some people or even a decent travel grinder. Of course next to a nice espresso focused grinder there is no comparison, but I can’t imagine those who are really into espresso and maximizing their shots are looking at a hand grinder at all, let alone a cheaper one.
Broken after 1 year of use. Disassembly is easy when not used. Try to disassemble and assemble back after months in use in order to clean - ABSURD. If you want to keep your sanity, avoid like the plague. Also, rust on the bearings after 1 year. I was really happy when I got it, but now I see that it's just a subpar product that is not built to last and the assembly is definitely made to destroy your nerves. Avoid.
@@qLeila Fair enough, I can blame the rust and gunk on myself but that little thing on top you need to put inside the other little thing while pushing from below - good luck with that. It has nothing to do with rust or gunk, the assembly is absurd and extremely hard. GL to any future owners, I;m happy with my 1zpresso now.
I hope you enjoy my thoughts on the KINgrinder K6! Do you own one or have you used one, if so what are your thoughts?
High praise for your review, you are really hitting all the points that one could want for this grinder (I’m an owner of the K6). Best review in terms of detail and quality I have seen or read on the K6 (and i have really been down a rabbit hole on this one) 👌
Wow! Thank you very much. I’m glad that someone who has experience with it agrees with my review 😊☕️
I love the kingrinder k6 with my la pavoni. I find that at 37 clicks is the best setting for the lever coffee machine
Hello! Trying to dial in an aeropress with medium roast coffee, do you have any suggestions? Thank you!
On the strengh of your video I bought the K6 for use with my Moka pot. I am generally pleased with it ecept for the wooden knob that is very wobbly on the handle and I don't know how long it will stay on but I see that on another review you had the wooden knob come off a grinder over twice as much. Keep up the good work.
Great review! This seems to be a very underrated hand grinder. I've been using a K6 for about seven months now, mostly brewing with a Flair Espresso maker and an Aeropress. It has been an excellent grinder with zero issues (I haven't even cleaned it properly yet) and its a big upgrade from my old Breville Smart Grinder. I paid about $150 at the time and it was still worth it, at $99 it's an absolute steal for this quality of grinder. I ended up choosing this over the 1Zpresso line (K-Pro/Plus, J-Max, etc.) as it was about $60-$100 cheaper than most of those grinders, but (according to Lance Hedrick) was still pretty close in terms of flavor profile. I don't regret my choice at all and would definitely recommend this grinder to anyone looking for a great value grinder.
Thanks for watching and thanks for your comment! It’s always awesome to get others real world experience and perspectives on some of these products.
Hello sir im getting my k6 tomorrow and im excited can you tell me how to use it for single espresso how many ounces please many thanks
Where can I find it 99$?!
This is literally me on my coffee setup. Glad to know I picked right on this grinder.
Hello! How many clicks for aeropress? Thanks!
This has to be one of the most complete reviews for any of the hand coffee grinders! I liked the details that you went into, from the teardown to the grind and brew times using different grind settings, and the tasing notes for both brews. I ordered the K6 and it should arrive tomorrow. Cheers!! ☕😁
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching 😀
Received my K6 last week. Better than expected. Took my Gaggia-game to places it had not been!
Yeah, I see this was a year ago. Just updating for anyone else that watches this excellent review...I paused and got this off of Amazon with a $30.00 coupon available. Price with discount was 99.00.
I'm a happy camper!
It seems like the $30 discount has always been there so it always costs $99. But still good
How's it working still?
Lots of videos on this grinder but none, except yours, actually shows how to take it apart to clean. Thank you!
Thanks! Glad it was helpful for you 😊
@@coffeenerdaaron To make it a 100% perfect review in my eyes, I'd like to see it used with an electric screwdriver. They encourage it in their manual and made it easy since the hexagonal metal piece is 1/4 inch, so you can just use the 1/4 nut bit.
P.S. also a particle analyzer would be cool, but I know that's asking way too much, lol. I found it to produce a bit more fines than I expected when grinding at 80 for french press, for something that is praised for it's clarity, but I guess some fines are inevitable?
This was such a great review man, the teardown was literally the best and easiest to follow that I've ever seen on any of the big name coffee influencers' channels. Perfect mix of subjectivity and objectivity. Fully informative, yet entertaining. So glad you're making videos sir, please keep it up!
Thank you for such a kind comment! I'm glad you're liking my videos, thanks for the support 😃
I use the the handle knob like a hammer and bang on the body around the rubber part, that clears most of what's retained. I've been so happy with this grinder as my first big investment on this pour over adventure. If I really need to improve clarity I just sift it a bit in a tea strainer, might shake out about a gram of fines depending on the beans.
I'm excited about new heights of flavor with a better grinder but this one has been a delightful entry point.
If you gotta sift a whole gram of fines for taste improvement then the grinder gotta be trash or your settings are wrong lol. I wonder how that "fines" benchmark compares to some decent Baratza or Fellow Ode.
I just got this grinder to use with my flair classic. Both are new to me and it's the start of my espresso adventure. It's a great grinder that can defenitly go espresso fine (and a lot further)
I've seen some people talking about rust or bad bearings. Mine came with a bad bearing. But kingrinder handled it amazing and sent me a new grinder (body) free of charge.
DISCLAIMER: DON'T WRECK YOUR GRINDER IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING:
I decided to investigate and you're able to change the inner 2 bearings too. After disassembly you can take off the adjustment ring, by turning all the way up to fine untill it comes off. That gets the top bearing and ring out of the way and gives you acces to the bearing they are pressed in with some retaining compound. Heat them up and give them a tap, use a punch or screwdriver to go through the top to the bottom, and vice versa. Then you can install new ones with some retaining compound again. This normally shouldn't be necessary ever. But it's good to know it's possible. Kingrinder says you can't take it apart witouth specialty tools. That's probably a good recommendation but not totally true
I usually don't comment under videos but this was quality content. I'll throw in a comment for the algorithm. Keep it up :)
Thank you! I appreciate that very much!
I super appreciate breaking down the unit at the beginning. I do have one of these, and it's been great. Mine came with a straight handle, which I actually prefer. One thing that would have been better is if the click scale was more clear. The 1, 2, 3, 4 sections on the main body scale indicate how many times you went pass 0, and there are 60 clicks for each full rotation as mentioned in the video. The click scale numbers on the rotating part only go up to 50. Anyway, the 1 through 4 scale would have been better showing 60, 120 etc on the main body portion, so you can tell exactly what grind setting you have when adjusting up or down instead of having to zero out in the correct direction and starting over every time you want to change from your last setting. Nit picking? Maybe, but this would have made it more satisfying for sure. This device punches above it price point either way.
how can u only get 2.5k sub with high-quality video 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 so much wtf right now
btw this is my first time watching your video and i love it! one of the very very high quality youtuber i found
Thank you very much!!!
Just came across your channel via Kyle Rowsell's 100k sub live stream. Great to see more quality coffee content from new creators - thank you!
Thank you very much!
Awesome video! Top notch entertainment and very informative. Will be ordering this grinder.
My K4 just arrived 2 hours ago, cant wait to try it in the morning! : )
Awesome! Enjoy
I own a K6 since 9 months. It is already broken. I haven't used it a lot. Only a couple of weeks during holidays. Currently, I can still grind beans but it is impossible to disassemble the grinder to clean it. I have contacted Kingrinder and they just say I don't have warranty because they suspect rust and that I can purchase parts if needed and IF I'm able to disassemble it. Very disappointing.
What did you break exactly?
@@_CazaBobos I wasn't able to disassemble the grinder anymore. The grinding discs were stuck.
At the end Amazon had very good service (I purchased at at Kingrinder via Amazon). They took the grinder back and refunded me for 100%. Amazon clearly knows better than Kingrinder what service means.
where did you store it? have you confirmed if rust is the issue?
@@MihailDadun It was always stored inside. In a very dry house.
I was not able to disassemble it so I'm not sure it was rust. At the end I was able to return the K6 with full refund. Not because of Kingrinder allowed the return but because Amazon took it back after I complained about Kingrinders bad service (it was purchased via Amazon). So really good service from Amazon!
Really enjoyed your take on this fantastic little grinder. I only use it for espresso shots and it provides more than enough grinding range to fine tune any beans that I have tried. Even pulling ristreto, first thing in the morning, is fun and easy now (compared to the hassle with previous timemore c3 grinder).
On the side note, camera angle is great, lighting perfect. Could use a bit more touch on the editing side but, overall, great video. Thumbs up.
This is interesting and helpful to see. I have been using the K6 with a Gaggia Carezza with its pressurized portafilter. With that set up I am finding I have from 33-39 clicks works best from the darker through to lighter roasts, interestingly finer than you did. I am switching to an unpressurized portafilter which can be done on my machine and have been told to go finer when i do. After watching your video I am not so sure! I will start at 35 and go from there but maybe not use my special bag of beans I am about to open, I might waste a few shots getting this right! Up to this point I am very happy with the K6 though, not used it for anything other than espresso so far but after watching your video I might try pour over with it.
K4 user guide actually shows that you should remove the black o-ring if you use the hand crank with the white o-ring. The black o-ring should stay if you intend to grind with a power drill...
Yeah I saw that too, but I saw it after I made this video 😜
did different, leave just the black one. don't need the crank to be fixed, too much weight, the grinder can fall.
Arron, I mentioned that I had this grinder in one of your videos or another, but I don't remember if it was this one. Anyway, thought I'd give an update. My zero point has moved from -4 to -9 in around 60 days of use. I also seem to be getting more fines that I was before as well. The base of the unit is pretty beat up where the catch cup connects. Not that it makes any difference in use. Also, I don't care for the ring around the top of the inside of the unit as it gets gunked up with coffee and is hard to clean.
Having said that, it still grinds smooth and quickly. I get good shots from 2-4 different clicks depending on the coffee. It seems to be good for the price I paid for it with coupon, $100. But it does make me wonder how much better something like a 1Zpresso or Kinu is in quality.
Oh, I've put right around 2 kilograms of coffee through it so far fwiw. (Mostly Onyx and CCC with an agtron of 72-52, for reference.)
Can't wait to see what video you release next. Keep up the good work and thank you.
(Edit: It was this video that I mentioned it. The comment right below, how silly of me to miss it. LOL. I need more coffee it seems.)
Thanks for sharing your update! To be honest with the amount of grinders I currently have I haven’t been using this one very much! I do want to revisit some hand grinder content though. I do now have the Turin HG40, it would be nice to get a few more budget hand grinders and do some comparisons.
@@coffeenerdaaron Just another little update. Another two weeks and another 10 clicks added to the zero point. That is now reading -19. This is actually getting quite annoying. As long as I know where the zero point is, it isn't a big deal, but I have to zero it out to find true zero every week or so. I know when it is getting out of whack when my shot times are fairly off (I frequently adjust because I drink two roast levels.) I think something that can be recalibrated, like the J-Max, is in my future.
For reference I grind about 600 grams of coffee a week with the K6.
@@kitcraft9516Just got a K6 and your experience is a bit worrisome. Would appreciate it if you can share any updates about it.
Still at -19 clicks for zero so that hasn't moved. The O-Ring that holds the lid to the handle gave out. The rubber grip is loose but still intact. The coffee quality, when ground, is still great. Better than my ESP, without question. I'd guess it produces less fines.
That said, I don't use it as much as I did before getting the ESP. It is less practical for me. So, I cannot comment on the shape it would have been in had I kept grinding at the rate I had been.
Personally, if I had to buy it again, I'd spend more on something from 1Zpresso if I were going to use it daily. But that is a loaded statement too as I don't own one to say it is built any better.
There are plenty of people who love theirs though. @@kmo475
@@kitcraft9516 that doesn't sound too bad if it doesn't develop more problematic issues long term. Thanks for the reply!
You deserve more followers! What a great review!
Thanks, I appreciate that!
Great review 👍
You made me buy a K6 over a Timemore. Cheers
Thanks! I hope you enjoy it. Timemore does make a good grinder but I was shocked at the value for performance with the K6!
@@coffeenerdaaronwould you suggest this over Timemore? I was eyeing the C3 Pro Max
Me too. K6 or timemore c3s pro. 🤔
It was a very nice, really fair and objective review. I am using K2 handgrinder and as you said, as a price it is definitely fantastic grinder. I have a Ceado e37sd grinder but sometimes I grind some coffee from K2 and make an espresso for different taste of conical burrs. After your review i am considering about to upgrade to K6 maybe. Thanks for video…
Thanks for watching, I’m glad you liked it!!
@coffeenerdaaron By the way i ordered a K6 after your review :)
Just subscribed and placed order for a K6. Thank you for an excellent review. I have a Lido 2 that is quite a bit larger that I use when traveling in our car. I will be doing some flying so I wanted to get a good grinder, a bit smaller, that would work for pour over and Aero press. The fact that this works for espresso is a bonus.
I do roast my own coffee and am always intrigued by the flavor profiles of the beans, especially the fruit bombs. Would you mind sharing the name and source of the beans you were using?
Thanks for a great review!
Thanks for watching and commenting! If memory serves the coffee I was using was a Natural Ethiopia Chelbesa from Brandywine Coffee Roasters. I too love very fruity and bright coffees, I’m a sucker for a good natural previews Colombia 😜
@@coffeenerdaaron Thanks Aaron,
Natural Ethiopians are my all time favorite.
I am upgrading my system so I can tweak the profiles out of the beans. Currently running a DB Vivaldi and Mahlkonig and looking at a Decent with DE64. The K6 will be my travel grinder.
thanks for the reply, love your channel.
Great setup! Thanks 😊
Hi! I have had one of these for a while. After a time the rubber does move, but it´s not a big issue. I like mine.
Thanks for sharing this!
Ok, 1 year review... love this grinder. I use it for both aero press and espresso (with robot). It is super simple to switch between the 2 settings and super simple to dial in. I can't think of a better budget setup than this and the aeropress. If I'm really really tired, the hand grind becomes a chore, but generally it's a nice way to wake up. I'm done grinding by the time the water is heated (oxo pour over kettle - do they still make these?). The only problem I had was when I first used it it stopped grinding. I still don't know why, but I took it apart, found nothing amiss, put it back together and it magically worked. Zero problems since.
Great review Aaron. The tear down especially. Wish I had seen this at the time, that little staple that holds it together was a bit confusing.
Happy to have stumbled upon this video and your channel when looking for a new hand grinder. Subscribed! Love your aesthetic and looking forward to future videos. Cheers!
Thank you very much!!!!
Yeah, i have my k4 more than 2 yrs and love it. But the only thing you need to remove one of the rubber rings from the lid - if you want to use handle, then remove the outer black one, if you want to use electric drill - then remove internal white one.
I have one of these, and it's been my daily driver for about a year and a half now. I love it!... but my shoulder has been giving me trouble lately so I need to upgrade to an electric grinder.
I'd like to do that without sacrificing much (if any) quality, but I also don't have much budget (I'd like to stay under $200, but would consider $300, so maybe an Ode 2 on Cyber Monday?)
For brewing, I can't afford an espresso machine (and I don't know if I ever will), so I use an Aeropress with James Hoffmann's espresso-like method (it makes strong brews a lot like what Cometeer ships). I grind not quite espresso-fine (60 clicks), and use 18g of coffee to 90ml of water, inverted, with a 90 second immersion then 30 seconds after a swirl and flip. Most days, I make two of these, one for me, one for my partner, as iced lattes. Once a week or so I make a hot latte or cappuccino (with a Maestri House milk frother, which is a _wonderful_ piece of kit if you want to foam milk without a steam wand, and makes a damn fine hot cocoa, too). Very rarely I'll go coarser and do a more typical Aeropress brew at a 10:250 ratio, but mostly I do the "espresso-like" recipe, like 99% of the time or more.
As for coffees, I have a Trade subscription and prefer the lighter side of medium, or the darker side of light roasts. My favorite roaster is Sightglass, with their Blueboon and Toketee blends my favorites, and their Hunky Dory decaf just magical, but I also like Familia Peixoto, Cuvee's House Blend, Feast's Power & Glory, and PT's flatlander. Mostly approachable blends with a bit of a twist, but nothing too exotic... usually washed, or maybe the occasional blend with some natural.
I'm looking pretty seriously at a Fellow Opus, which seems like it's kind of the equivalent of the K6 but electrified, but also considering an Ode 2, or an Ode with the burr upgrade.
Any recommendations? Or anything I'm obviously overlooking?
I think an Opus would serve you well. It’s a great burr and motor for the money! And if you’re doing mostly “espresso like” brews a conical flavor profile is probably what you prefer 😊
@@coffeenerdaaron Thanks!
To be fair, I've never had anything from a flat burr... well, I suppose Cometeer (which I did for a few months as I got into specialty coffee to make sure I was into it enough before investing in gear to make my own). There isn't exactly much coffee culture where I live...
Anyway, yeah, I think I'll get an Opus. I might wait to see if they go on sale for the holidays. I think my shoulder has another 60 or so grinds in it. xD
@@coffeenerdaaron Hey, I thought you'd be interested to know... I got my new Fellow Opus yesterday, and I adore it! My KinGrinder K6 served me very well, but so far the 'shots' I pull from the Opus are absolutely amazing! So much more depth and nuance, it's like zooming in on what the coffee has to offer, yet also getting a clearer view of the big picture. It took the roast I'm on right now (Airship's Buffalo Blend) from kind of "just a cup of joe" to something much richer and more interesting and yet also somehow leaning into the "just a cuppa" in a really good way.
I'm not sure if it's because of what you said, about the flavor profile of a conical burr being my preference (the Kingrinder is conical, but it's kind of built to aim for the clarity of a flat burr), or just because I'm not physically capable of grinding anywhere near as fine as the Opus does with the push of a button (the K6 is absolutely capable of super-fine grinds, but the force and effort required is beyond me at this point), but the coffee is amazing!
I had a dessert decaf latte last night (Sightglass "Hunky Dory") that was just _magical,_ silky, buttery mouth-feel (with ice, whole milk, splenda, and a splash of half-and-half). Hunky Dory is legit one of my favorite coffees, full stop, which blew my mind since it's decaf and that usually comes with big sacrifices... but still, I wasn't surprised to get an amazing iced latte out of it with a finer grind. But to take Airship's normally so-so profile and make it this smooth and inviting, too? I'm impressed!
Thanks for your advice! You didn't steer me wrong, and while it was a long wait, I got it for $156 on Black Friday, which I'm _very_ pleased with for what I got.
@barefootalien fanatic! Glad to hear you’re having success with your coffee! I’ve not tried that coffee from Sightglass but I’ll have to give it a shot… pun intended! 😝
@@coffeenerdaaron I love everything I've tried from Sightglass. They seem like they have an extremely deft touch with the roast.
Of the three blends carried by Trade, Toketee is the darkest, though still quite light by espresso standards.
Blueboon is a lovely, approachable light roast blend, super clean with astonishingly present chocolate notes with sweet citrus and a beautiful thread of subtle, sweet florals. Their tasting notes are milk chocolate, mandarin, and honeysuckle, and that totally makes sense, though I don't get the honeysuckle or mandarin quite as much.
Hunky Dory's notes are Toffee, Red Grape, and Bergamot, and yeah... those toasty-buttery notes playing with the undertone of fresh fruit are fabulous, and I've been finding I very much appreciate a touch of citrus notes in my coffee. Plus I'm a big fan of Earl Grey tea, (Harney & Sons' Earl Grey Supreme, omg...) so bringing that bergamot in is just... Mmm.
I _believe_ it's just a basic solvent process, which surprised me. I was looking to try something more 'progressive' like a supercritical CO2 process, as the last decaf I got, which was Swiss Water Process, was super bland and uninteresting, like it'd had the soul ripped out of it. But I decided since I love Blueboon and Toketee so much, to try their take on decaf, and... wow!
I've used this grinder for my Aeropress for over a year and am completely happy with it. I wouldn't want to use it for espresso though.
Just discovered you looking for info about this grinder, already subscribed!
Thank you!!!!! Hopefully you got the info you were searching for?
Great review. Just ordered one for camping this fall. Wonder about getting parts ??
I don’t know about replacement parts as I’ve never looked into it but I imagine they might be available through there website or customer service?
Is there really a point to using RDT with this grinder? I never really get static, and it is in an enclosed cup so idk what the point of doing it is? Is there a benefit?
I’ve noticed it helps reduce the amount of fines and particles left stuck to the bottom of the burrs, I think overall it helps keep things a bit cleaner but to your point not necessary.
@@coffeenerdaaron gotcha. Makes sense. Thanks
For a long grind, such as espresso, you can attach a cordless drill driver in place of the handle.
Is that a not neutral Vero you are drinking the shot from? If so, which size? Looks to be larger than 3 oz but it is hard to tell in videos. Curious because I drink mostly lungo and short ratio americanos. I was thinking about getting the cortado sized glasses (that is what I drink on the rare occasion that I have a milk drink).
PS: I come back to reference this video when I change coffee/machines. I too have a K6 (zero point -4) and I enjoy using it. It is nice to have something to compare my results to.
As always, thank you.
Hi Kit! It's actually just a generic Gibraltar cup I bought at a home goods store. It came in a pack of 2. These are 4oz cups I believe. I do have several Not Neutral cups including the Smoked Vero espresso cups and the Emerald Vero Cortado cups. I also have some of their Lino latte cups and mugs. I almost always drink a filter brew from a Lino mug, they are so enjoyable to drink from and I love the handle feel. Thanks for the comment and for watching!!!
Any idea why they changed the handle? All I’m seeing for sale are straight handles!
@@SashaSteveBlair I have no idea why they changed it, sorry 🤷♂️
I read it was due to potential legal problems from being too similar to the 1zpresso ones. I still just ordered the bent handle from Amazon though, just pick the other model number that doesn't say straight handle
@@jk12324 Interesting, thanks!
Thanks so much for the great review. The offer on Amazon now comes with straight handle. Not sure if it makes any difference in performance.
I just received my K6 and started grinding for espresso and found it to be very difficult to grind. I have a flair 58 and I have to grind finer than normal, but I’ve seen other videos of people grinding and it looks fairly easy. Have you experienced a lot of difficulty with grinding for espresso?
The finer you grind the more difficult it gets with a hand grinder, that’s one of the draw backs to them. That’s why I don’t use it much for espresso. I pretty much just use it for pour over or Aeropress when traveling. You could try using a drill!!!
@@coffeenerdaaron I’m wondering if it gets easier after seasoning?
It may but I don’t think it will get that much easier unfortunately.
@@coffeenerdaaron Maybe as muscles grow 💪💪💪💪💪
Hi Josh! I have the same problem with the K4, it is very VERY difficult to grind for an espresso, it takes me about 3 minutes and I have to stop to rest my hands and sometimes the grinder gets stuck and It's so hard to begin again. I've seen other videos too and it looks so much easier. Did you get any solution? I don't think I could do this three times per day... :( I was wondering if there might be a problem with my Kingrinder. Thanks
Hey man! I wanted to ask if you could make any direct comparisons between this and more expensive hand grinders. I brew 90% pour over, 10% espresso. Ive been looking at the 1zpresso X-pro and ZP6
Awesome video! I just got mine! Thank you for your work! Can you recommend a grind size for moka pot?
Awesome, thanks for watching!!! unfortunately I don't really do Moka Pot so Im not 100% sure on the grind size to recommend. I would just say try to visually compare some grinds to what you normally do in the Moka and then go by your preferences for taste.
did you test the timemore S3? if yes, did you prefer the S3 or K6?
I got fed up with Timemore's finicky quality control and frankly, lack of online resources (because most people use other grinders) and grabbed this. Lucky the Chestnut X was a freebie for me so no loss there.
I was very worried, based on the design and 'drill mode' option, that it would be like the 1ZPresso J-Max I had and returned after a couple days: You gotta be fucking Hercules to grind beans in that thing on finer settings or lighter roast on coarse settings. I mean, it was a whole circle of Hell. One step forward, two steps back to unjam the thing, literally out of breath by the end some twenty, thirty minutes later...
The K6 here gave some resistance and asked me to work my arms (grinding for espresso just to test it) but that 1Z was a whole other level. I can't impress adequately how hellish that thing was. So I'm grateful that the K6 is you know...Practically functional. And it wasn't $400 like the equivalent 1ZPresso probably is...
I'm wondering if it'd be doable to swap the K6 burrs for the S2C burrs on the Chestnut.
Thanks for sharing your experiences! I'll be honest I'm not a fan of hand grinders, I know there are some good ones out there but for the money it just doesn't make since in my head. The cost to enjoyment of use scale is pretty skewed! Outside of camping or maybe a long day hike I have no reason to use a hand grinder, nut I know a lot of people love them. For the money I think the K6 is one of the best, but I have no idea about swapping burrs. I imagine if the outside dimensions of the stationary burr are the same, and the inner burr fits on the shaft correctly it would work no problem. Report back if you do it!
Tips for Chemex? Could be personal preference, but I was using a cheap grinder that did not have espresso ability, and the grinds were amazing for it. Now I just got the K6, and I’m stuck. K6 recommends 160 clicks for Chemex, which for me is way to course loses all the flavor. But going 75-90 is way to fine, it’s all mud. I think I’ll eventually find it, but was wondering if you had a sweet spot for Chemex and K6.
I don’t have a sweet spot for the Chemex cause I don’t brew with one anymore. All I can say, like you said, is that it’s personal preference and you just have to experiment until you find what you like. Sorry I don’t have a more concrete answer but there are so many variables that impact the overall taste, and personal preference is a big factor.
She's going to kill me.. But, my b-day is coming up, and idk how long it'll be sitting at this price. Hoo boy, I did it. Wish me luck! Thanks Nerd.. You and Burning Puppet's "Timemore Chestnut C2 & Kingrinder K6 Comparison" made this hard decision worth the risk..
I hope you enjoy it when you get it! Congrats and thanks for watching my videos 😆☕️🤘
Hey great video! Do you have an Idea how to calibrate it so that it’s fully closed when it shows the number 0. I know that it doesn’t matter but I would like it if it stood at zero 😅
Thanks! And I know this is a common question a lot of us have about this grinder. I don’t know how calibrate it to fix this issue, I don’t think you can but I’ll try to reach out to KINgrinder and see if I can get an answer.
@@coffeenerdaaron Thanks a lot for your efforts
Thank you for watching! 😊
Hello Nice video. I got mine today. My 0 is at -25 which is a bit much but it seems normal on hand grinder as I've read on Reddit. I wanted to know about your 60 clicks for V60. According to recommandation of kingrinder its more 90-120. Is it you preference to do a finer V60 ? Sorry for the newbie question but i am just getting into coffee so all of that is completely new for me.
That seems like such a sensible choice!
What is that container called? The noise it makes is so satisfying
It’s called Atmos and it’s made by Fellow Products. They make several sizes and color variations 😊
The manual said to remove the black o-ring when using the white o-ring and attaching the handle to the PC lid. I noticed you had both on, for me removing the lid would always dislodge the white o-ring, when pulling up by the handle. Do you pull up from the lid?
Great review. I have been a pourover guy until I just purchased a Picopresso to dip my toes in the espresso arena. However hearing my Timemore Chestnut C2 is not going to cut it and this may be a good option. Any recommendation of a budget single dose electric that would be equivalent? I prefer medium to darker roasts. Mor chocolaty nutty notes more than citrus or floral. Thanks for any input. New sub.
Great review! Have you tried attaching a cordless screw driver to it to grind?
I have not done that yet but I want to!
@@coffeenerdaaron let me know if you get hands on one!
@@chasechase24 I have one I just haven’t done it yet! 😆
@@coffeenerdaaron oh I see hahaha i wanna buy one when i use it for making multiple batches. I’m wondering which ones are good to buy
How Many clicks do you recommend for a Coffee un french press.?
I do not brew French Press very often and Haven't used this grinder for that brewing method but it depends on a few factors like the coffee your brewing and your taste preferences. I would say start courser than you think you need too, like maybe 120-130 clicks then go finer till its tasting good to you without being over extracted. Since I don't know what coffee youre brewing its hard to say, just experiment till you find what you like.
Sir are18 grams considered to be double shots ????many thanks
Yes, an 18gm dose would be enough for a double espresso.
Any Aeropress setting recommendation ?
I got this case 6 yesterday and I noticed when you do counter clockwise or I'm sorry clockwise you won't go to exact 0 is that normal
Yes it is, mine does the same thing. I wish they could have made it the where the burrs touch right at 0 but for whatever reason they don’t.
which one you recommend k6 or k ultra ?
is a click clockwise or counter clockwise from 0?
Hi, you should take out the large black o-ring when using K6 with the handle. See the manual.
Thanks for pointing that out!
Hello, any tips to take it out? Mine came super attached to the lid
@@Andres-tr5sg Hello my friend, try a toothpick. If that won't work, then try to put some heat on it with hairdryer. :) Good luck!
@@petrrohacek6039 Thanks mate, the toothpick worked perfectly!
Where’s your espresso glass from
I don’t know the brand but it’s just a small Gibraltar glass. You can find them on Amazon and lots of home stores.
Did you count clicks from 0 mark or from true zero? (Burr lock)
Great review thank you
So that was a 15g:50ml ratio am I getting this right? At a fairly "fine" setting.
I thought you do pour overs quite course. If Moka is supposed to be around 70clicks, and you can pour over at 60, espresso at a much lower click. What's the point of the remaining 200 clicks or what not here?
Thanks for the video ! That was 20 mins or second of grinding? :O
Seconds! 😝☕️🤘
Great review. Thanks!
Thanks!
This one for espresso or the Timemore C3 ESP Pro? Thx
You're going to have a hard time finding someone to recommend the Timemore over the K6. Plus the K6 goes on sale a lot so you'll get a nicer grinder for less $
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Your channel is really good. Lots of information and objective. I have this grinder and your impressions match my experience. Greetings from Brazil.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the kind words! 😊
You mention Light roasted 40 clicks what about medium roast Are that going to be the same as 40 clicks many thanks
It just depends on the coffee and brewing method. While 35-45 clicks works well for me for espresso it may not work for you, you’ll just have to experiment till you get results you’re happy with.
@@coffeenerdaaron you think 45 clicks is that really fine ??I'm just curious
I wouldn’t say it’s really fine but it’s fairly fine and like I said 35-45 clicks is where I’ve had good luck with espresso.
@@coffeenerdaaron I'll try that on my deloghi hopeit worksfor me about distribiution
Many thanks
How does one eliminate or minimize static buildup in the catch cup? RDT?
Either lightly spray the beans with a fine mister before grinding or wet your finger under the faucet and stir the beans with your wet finger. Search a video for more info.
I've been using the K6 to grind for Espresso from 60-70 clicks depending on the roast and beans, at the beginning it was perfectly smooth but now the rubber starts to move as I grind which is weird. Does anyone experience similar behavior where the rubber starts to move and isn't held in place?
I haven’t experienced this with mine but I don’t use it all that often. Have you tried contacting KINGrinder to see if they’ll warranty it?
You removed the black rubber o ring and are only using the white one, correct? The black o ring is for use with a drill.
I also use 40-43 clicks for espresso. 5 clicks makes a big difference for espresso.
@@Carado5150 If I use less clicks the shot won't go through the portafilter. I'm using the delonghi ecp 3420 with the bottomless portafilter and ims basket.
Hi there,
K4 user here and had the same issue with rubber sleeve after somewhat 10kg of beans through. Removed it and wrapped the grinder with the karakal PU grip for squash rackets. It has added a couple of mm's in girth and became more solid in hand which I only welcome...and doesn't seem like it will need a replacement any time soon))
Also, can't not appreciate your setup - myself been modding ec230bk for a year now and absolutely happy with the results for my buck)
Cheers!
how different is k6 from k2? in terms of brew quality
I have not used the K2 so I can’t give you a definitive answer, however if the quality of the K6 is this good at this price point I imagine the K2 is way better than anything you’re going to get in it’s same price point 😝
You made me buy this!!! 🎉
Is suitable for turkish coffee grind?
Anyone else impressed with the grind time of this unit? I've used faster, but this gets my espresso beans done in good time! Again, this punches above it's price point.
You had a note that said no RDT with this grinder? Why not?
It’s not that you can’t, I just typically haven’t in the past with hand grinders cause they don’t usually have much retention or static build up. There is less static build up with lower rpm, and you can smack them into the palm of your hand to get all the grinds into the dosing cup. I will say though with some of the new research showing the benefits of RDT not only from a retention perspective but also when it comes to Triboelectrification and increased extraction, I would say it’s not a bad idea! I made this video before some of that research was out 😊
It is crazy how almost all the parts look pretty much exactly like the 1zpresso K series. Outside the weird little magnetic clip, it's basically identical. Prooooobably the same factory. At 1/2-1/3 the price… I think I can overlook the lack of magnetic catchcup and the awkward clip. 😅
Not sure if this is true. But, wasn't it formed from some folks from 1zpresso? Not sure about validity of this though.
What is difference between between it and K4
received mine today. it has a straight handle and a ball…
I have this k6, the amount of times I've hit my knuckles from the terrible o-ring design with a plastic cover and another o-ring on the edges is just wrong. It slips, doesn't fit well even after greasing. I tossed that terrible silicone ring and replaced it with a proper o-ring.
I haven’t encountered these issues with mine but I guess time will tell!
I think you're mean to remove or change the O ring
Been torn between this and the 1zpresso q2, leaning more towards this now
@user-yi1uu8np8y Got the k6, been loving it for the many months I've had it!
I used Q2 Heptagonal for over a year and loved it. But the limites capacity of 18g and the time It took to grind for espresso made me upgrade to the K6. The external ajustment, the flavour profile and the speed are so much better than Q2
Weird the manual says you have to remove the black ring if you use the white ring 😂
You are correct, it does say that and I missed it!!
What black ring or white ring? On the handle?
Yes @@tikifhe7769
Any tips on how to remove it? It’s super attached to the lid
@@Andres-tr5sg that's strange it should not be too hard, just remove the black ring and attach the small white one at center around the metal piece not the plastic
Good work out too for your arms.. bro !!😊
Good video but like everyone else (including Kingrinder) you don't show us how to put coffee beans into this thing .... Do you just prise that plastic lid off and put them in the top .... For the life of me I can't get the plastic lid off mine ....????
The 3 swerving bearings were adjusted along with the ambifascient lunarwayne shaft such that side fumbling was effectively prevented
@@charleslogan6566 I forgot to calibrated the piston return springs and the turbo encabulator so your results may vary! 😂
@@coffeenerdaaron is this model equipped with hydrocoptic marsal veins? I trust the unit is encased in a malleable logarithmic casing haha
Can it make it fine enough for Turkish coffee?
I’m not too familiar with Turkish coffee so I don’t know the exact grind size needed but I have stalled my Breville Dual Boiler with the grinder so it can for very fine!
What is the difference between the 4 and the 6; aside the price?
They are basically the same grinder but the K4 has titanium coated burrs which is more ideal for espresso and bringing a little more sweetness out of darker roasts where the K6 is better for various brewing methods and lighter roasted coffees. They have a good comparison on their website…
www.kingrinder.com/blog/comp-k4-k6
I bought this grinder a few months ago after watching this video, today I am sending it back to Amazon after realizing the inner bearings are rusted. The brand is not giving me support even being under warranty, so I had no choice..
how can i make it 70 clicks when there is only 60, i have the same grinder as yours
Rotate the adjuster around again to setting 10 than you’re at 70.
Any thoughts on the k6 vs zp6 vs kmax for filter coffee? Although the 1zpresso ones are more expensive, this k6 seems to offer more (48mm heptagonal burr with 16 micron external adjustment). Thank you for sharing!
I've heard great things about both the ZP6, especially the Special model, and the kmax but unfortunately I havent had a chance to use either one yet 😥
@@coffeenerdaaron ok thank you anyway!
@@akshayvij230 thanks for watching!!!
You seem like someone I'd like to drink coffee with lol.
@@johncellona8133 😂 thanks!
... isn't the 10g difference between advertised weight and measured because of grinder retention? or does that not effect hand grinders?
No, if it was retaining 10 grams of coffee that would insane! 😂 maybe they’re listed weight doesn’t include the lid or something, I don’t know, but it was more just a funny moment I left in the video. The weight really isn’t an important issue 😝☕️
I notice you're using the black and white o'ring together. That's not the way it was intended to be used. That is why you claim you have not had a problem with the handle falling out. Be honest in your review. Take out the black one and install the white one and the handle and plastic cover is not secure. The black o'ring is for use when using an electric drill to grind.
Unlike other grinders that have a magnetic shaft or a tighter tolerance between handle and shaft this does not and it is very loose.
@@flyertx50 I’m aware that I had both o-rings installed at the same time and wasn’t supposed to, it was a mistake not dishonesty…
Nice vid. Looks like a great grinder for anybody not wanting to spend much cash but wants to explore all coffee brew methods.
Absolutely, and honestly it does a good enough job I think even more seasoned enthusiast might enjoy using it too, I have!
based on your comments, I will order this grinder and maybe you can help me understand the expresso dial ins. Still in the box but I have a "Flair NEO Flex" .. Comes with Flow-Control Portafilter which they say just uses standard store bought grinds and then there is the bottomless 2-in-1 Portafilter and this one scares me quite a lot and, it is the reason for picking up this grinder. Now my question... any idea what setting on this grinder will allow me to pull a decent shot w/o risking a no flow shot or breakage of the flex itself? It seems that grinding a good shot is not the easiest thing to do regardless of machines, but I would love to know a starting point, if one even exists :) thanks.
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Hey buddy. If you use SI units, use the correct designation. What the heck is "GM"??? Its simple "g".
Where the fuck do you put the beans??
They come built in
Manual expresso grinding is a good morning exercise
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20/11.
allaround grinder... for espresso? with 16 microns?... can't believe (I have to say: I hate filter cafe - if I wanna have a tea, I drink tea...)
Obviously you want a smaller micron adjustment per click for espresso but for the price and being decent, not great, but decent for both I think it makes for a nice cost effective alternative for some people or even a decent travel grinder. Of course next to a nice espresso focused grinder there is no comparison, but I can’t imagine those who are really into espresso and maximizing their shots are looking at a hand grinder at all, let alone a cheaper one.
Broken after 1 year of use. Disassembly is easy when not used. Try to disassemble and assemble back after months in use in order to clean - ABSURD. If you want to keep your sanity, avoid like the plague. Also, rust on the bearings after 1 year. I was really happy when I got it, but now I see that it's just a subpar product that is not built to last and the assembly is definitely made to destroy your nerves. Avoid.
Of course it's gonna be super gunked up if you haven't cleaned it in months. Take care of your appliances and they will last
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@@qLeila Fair enough, I can blame the rust and gunk on myself but that little thing on top you need to put inside the other little thing while pushing from below - good luck with that. It has nothing to do with rust or gunk, the assembly is absurd and extremely hard. GL to any future owners, I;m happy with my 1zpresso now.
Which model 1zpresso did you get? @@Dan-pz5ro
@@Dan-pz5ro the clip literally falls out. I have a strong feeling that you did something very wrong there.