2024 Toyota Sequoia TRD PRO vs Land Cruiser: Shootout!
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- Which is better? The 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser First Edition or the larger 2024 Toyota Sequoia TRD PRO? We compare both and put them to the test!
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What I love about the Sequoia is the powertrain.
What I love about the Land Cruiser is its body size and versatility.
So my favorite is the GX550😄
25 Nissan Armada Pro 4x made in Japan for under $80k by Nissan GTR engineers enters the chat. 💀
Totally agree "If I want a big SUV, I want big storage space".
It's unfortunate how Toyota packaged the batteries in these 2 new SUVs. After looking at these in person I was surprised not only how high the cargo floor is but also the 200lb load limit sticker Toyota states. So you can't sleep, sit or even kneel in the back of you're a larger person. Yikes.
@@James-il3tq or put a dog crate 16:49 the fold down 3rd row in the sequoia is why id go GX 550 overtrail if one can find a moonroof delete and not ton of luxury car operations
@@James-il3tq several videos of people sleeping in them
@@James-il3tq thats only for a single point of weight not for weight spread out TRDJon had this on his channel
25 Armada pro 4x with lockers (like LC300) made in Japan (like GX550), sits 8 people (like LC300 not sold in US) and bigger than Sequioa.
80k not counting taxes...crazy money...
The LC's Full time 4WD is the Deciding Factor
Agreed!
It's unfortunate Toyota doesn't offer auto 4WD (perfect for snow/heavy rain) in their new TNGA-F vehicles. Domestic manufacturers have been offering this for almost 2 decades.
@jeffreysmith4304 Armada Patrol has full time 4wd as well but with 8 seats unlike LC250.
@@vm2003 Except that Wasn't a Choice in the Video
The LC is just fantastic. It’s the perfect size and extremely well thought out.
At a not fantastic price. At all
@@ValFinale my price range is a GX 550 OT so a properly optioned LC IS a bargain. You want cheap then buy something that can’t do half of what a LC can and that’s a huge list.
@@2URLex I don’t want cheap, but if I’m spending 55k on a car it’s not gonna be a Toyota
@@ValFinale you have that right and it’s your money so why tell me? There have been many for that 55k price range years ago and they’ve sold and are still on the road and holding value in 30-40k range. Keep dreaming to buy something new for 55k with capability. Those days are gone.
@@2URLex no, but I can get a 1 year lightly used frontier pro 4x for 35k
Ryan, Assuming these were both intended to be Hybrids from the get go, Toyota certainly did a hamfisted job of locating their batteries. What a pity the Sequoia lost the more sophisticated 4WD system with the redesign.
Its a sturdier system than the Landcruiser. Agreed on the battery location. Not a good design given the compromise
@@YerBoyTroysturdier? No.
Agreed. The battery just gets tossed in. Although, I always give manufacturers a little leeway since CAFE standards keep getting more and more difficult. Gone are the 70’s - 90’s when emission control was relatively light in comparison. By 2030, CAFE will be at 52 mpg for cars and 39 mpg for light trucks. Toyota can’t methodically improve everything with these new standards and time frames, and really no company again. Expect reliability and quality to go down across-the-board.
@@Evan_Land Toyota's Hybrids have been incredibly reliable. Toyota should have placed the Land Cruiser and Sequoia batteries under the second row as they do in the Tundra, Highlander, etc.
I agree, I love the land cruiser but the battery location essentially makes it a no go for me. if I am getting a vehicle like that I want to be able to comfortably lay down in the back and sleep on long road trips but with that giant hump in the middle I wouldn't be able to do that, kind of beats the purpose of an "overlanding" vehicle in my opinion.
I love watching all the dirt coming flying off the skid plate @14:38
We traded Mazda CX90 for Sequoia TRD pro payed off rest. As a family barely having 2nd child in October. Space is amazing, the cargo area is just fine I don’t get y’all’s complaints it has a shelf system that actually does fold flat and gives you additional storage. If you don’t like it buy a bus and if you want a dog crate and 2-3 or more kids GO GET A BUS!!!!. The new armada doesn’t even have a complete flat cargo area due to headrests what then???? V6 turbo outperforms majority of V8 and the drive is beast and beautiful for a SPORT ride. It’s not meant to be luxurious so get off the nuts on that too. And the ride is for the family and wife so no I won’t be taking her mudding but if I did I do agree it could use a 3 inch lift for clearance…… something the armada did amazing work on. Not bashing armada is a beautiful ride just tired of all the sequoia hate. If it’s not for you move on. Second ride is a Silverado and to this day we have only used it for large furniture. Storage has been plenty fine in the Sequoia. Price is for sure steep , we were just fortunate and blessed to buy one. May all your rides drive and last long regardless of it’s brand folks 😊
LC all day every day
Great video on two very cool vehicles. But I wasn’t aware that 111 hp and 118 torque was just slightly more power lol
Perfect video! This is the exact question I have been asking as I think through replacing my aging Land Cruiser 200.
If I had 80k to spend I would go with a Lexus GX 550. Toyota is supposed to be an affordable Lexus. These prices are insane to me.
Availability on the 550 is very low compared to the LC. A lot of the Lexus dealers here are still getting people to pay mark-ups, wild.
The tech is essentially the same....in fact, the toyota has more tricks and upgrades at that price.
@@AlphaOmega333 especially the OT models, which is the one we would be comparing these too... but the OT is so nice
@@BrandonCRFC yes and no.. the Lexus OT has EKDSS which is amazing!! Standard skid plates, off round tech that insane, with center and rear diff lock like the LC, but the OT comes with Toyo off road tires standard and GC c confirmed by Toyota on the GX OT is 9.22, plus 4 year warranty vs 3.
@@williamgalicia6219 I have an unlimited drivetrain and 8/10 year on hybrid motor and battery. Thats hard to be by going with the LC
Some of the coolest reviews on TH-cam keep doing your thing bro your found your niche in the TH-cam and auto media world
I used OnX last weekend at Eastern Sierras and like it
Could I get more details about the wheels you put on your LC? I think they look great!
Toyota 18-inch alloys. They’re an optional TRD wheel for the 2024 Tacoma TRD PRO.
@@drivingsports Thank you!
We always look forward to your great reviews, Ryan!
Love the wheel and tire package you put on the LC. The way it should have come from the factory. Well done.
The TRD Pro not being given a proper approach angle shows they never thought anyone would actually take it off-road. They will now have to chase the Armada Pro 4X for sales.
The other reason the Armada is a clear winner is because Nissan retains a usable 3rd row, while the Toyota ruined both the 3rd row and cargo area with their battery placement.
I agree. Having owned a 2023 Sequoia will shop the 2025 Armada when it becomes available.
@@JoseR-bw2gs isn’t the 2025 Armada a bit of a question mark at the moment? Nissan is calling the 3.5TT V6 “all new” which seems to translate to “unproven” these days no matter who the manufacturer is. I suppose the lack of a hybrid drivetrain at least uncomplicates things a bit.
@@Dogsport1 the 2023 Sequoia was a question mark also. I traded out a few months ago to a 2024 4Runner, but will look at all the 2025 full size SUV options at the end of this year.
@@JoseR-bw2gs oh I agree, that’s the same V6TT in the Sequoia giving Toyota headaches in the Tundra, but for some reason it isn’t getting the same negative press (maybe due to being a low volume seller?). I too picked up a 2024 4Runner just last month. It’s slow and drinks gas like an old V8, but I’m banking on the legendary reliability and capability off road.
@@Dogsport1 in the Sequoia I averaged about 19.5 MPG for the 15 months I had it and the 3 months with the 4Runner about 17 to 18 MPG.
You’re my envy with that First Edition Land Cruiser, awesome Toyota comparative ! All the best from 🇨🇷CR
I've been following your youtube reviews with great interest and I eagerly await each new one!
The packaging of the Sequoia is still shocking. Feels like they didn't know what they wanted it to be. Off road truck, van, tow vehicle, who knows. Kind of the worst of all worlds in terms of packaging.
Good point, considering that Toyota considered killing the Sequoia and its somewhat of a passion project of Toyota’s American team. I had to go back and confirm it, but the US team approached the board to change their mind, and convinced them they could build the SUV along side the Tundra “cheaply”. I think it has its place, but that translates to compromises.
Realistically, it does what 99% of SUVs in the US actually do just fine. It “mall crawls” with the best of them and looks pretty good doing it. I think price will be its biggest issue with most consumers in the full-size market.
@@Dogsport1 This is very much the likely explanation. The Sequoia is a NA only vehicle and it doesn't sell in large numbers like the Tacoma or 4Runner does. It's likely the higher ups wanted to kill off the Sequoia but was convinced by the NA truck team to keep it but was given a very limited budget hence why they didn't have much resources to figure out a better location for the battery and having to reuse a solid axle like the Tundra rather than designing an IRS set up like on the 2nd Gen.
yes like the short wheel base and grille over the tundra but fold down seats take all the cargo space
cant wait for the new pro4x Armada test in the future.
Great video!!! Love this!
max payload....that's cute......roof rack, rtt, steel bumpers, winch, rear kitchen pull out, lights, awning, water and fuel carrier.. later.....by 1500lb that was just a suggestion right?
Always great content, beautifully shot!
There’s a few things to correct on the LC that a lot of people don’t realize. And other Toyotas. MTS is a selling gimmick. It’s not needed if you know how to drive. The important setting on any LC is the Crawl Control. The first time you see this system dig you out of axle deep sand you’ll be amazed. After that the 1958 comes with a “Start in 2nd” button. Anyone who knows how to drive knows this will be as good as MTS almost any time.
Next is the sway bar disconnect. It’s only 1 axle and it’s only 10%. It’s another sales gimmick on the LC and simply gives you a new electronic system to fix. For the number of times that 10% on one axle saves you…. Save 12,000. Want a system that is worth it, get the LX550.
The important part of the LC is the things you don’t see. Steel drive shafts are an example. The LC is 300lbs heavier than a new Forerunner TRD Pro. There is a lot of extra steel in there. That steel drive shaft…. Not on any Tacoma or Forerunner. That’s just one example. And I bet it’s not on the Sequoia in this video either. I carefully looked into the Tacoma and LC before I bought. The LC is just built better. The plastic is solid. Not wiggly and squeaky. It feels like it will not break.
But after a lot of comparisons…. The 1958 LC is the gem. Save 12,000 bucks, get everything you need and not a lot of electronic to fix later.
And that eye monitoring system that police are starting to get warrants to see if your eyes were on the road (distracted) or sleeping…. Isn’t on the 1958. Keep that in mind.
Both are nice..
GX 550 Overtrail for the win.. EKDSS, off road Toyos, skid plates, off road system thats insane.... 4 year basic warranty instead of 3.. no brainer
I'm the same as You. Sequoia is for family and towing and Land Cruiser is for off road. I choose fun in mud and gravel. Great review. Greetings
Personally would pick a 5th gen 4Runner TRD off-road which would give me almost all the features, a timeless looks, and $35,000 of savings. With the cash I could invest in oil stocks to more than make up for the mpg difference, I gain the reliability of the 4.slow and I won’t lose as much money on the resale.
I really want to be excited about these trucks, but I’m a little nervous about powertrain reliability. I suppose as long as you stay within warranty should be ok.
Yeah, the blanket thing would bug me. Wonder if some strips of elastic or velcro could help.
Land Cruiser. Thank you.
So basically if you want the ultimate 5 seater off road suv made in Japan for American market, get the GX550.
If you want 8 seater version, get 25 Armada Pro 4x (which competes with LC300 not sold in America)
Great video, really cool match up. These were the two vehicles I was shopping for and I agree with pretty much everything you said about them. I went with the Land Cruiser. I love the Sequoia's looks and space, but I didn't want to drive something that big daily.
80k? Does it come with a central air and how many bathrooms?
GX550 overtrail for the win
gx is a lexus, with Horrible range on a full tank of gas
@@johnrose7212 if you can’t afford the gas you shouldn’t buy the truck 😎
@@johnrose7212gas is cheap
@@Hitman-zi1fvthey said RANGE not mileage! Put a bigger gas tank in it!
@@Hitman-zi1fv since the land cruiser gets better mileage, I can afford the truck!!!!!
Love the land cruiser with the round headlights!!!
Being that the Landcruiser uses premium, filling up costs slightly less with the regular fuel Sequoia.
Land Cruiser is for sure and for certain more my preference. Informative video🤔
Awesome video!!
But this trd sequoia looks so cool
I just dont understand why the trd pro sequoia has less ground clearance than the sr5 of the previous gen... mall crawling also needs fox shocks for the speed bumps i guess. Thanks for the great video!
He keeps going on and on about the disconnecting sway bar giving the LC more articulation, but it seems to lifting wheels just as often as the Sequoia...
A ramp index would highlight the utility of eKDSS more objectively. The KDSS variants of previous gens always out perform their non-KDSS counterparts. Dan Edmunds has several examples of this on his channel, Tinkerer’s Adventure has some as well.
I’d buy the Land Cruiser for Colorado winters and narrow trails.
There are horror stories about these sequoias and tundras … particularly in Toyota headquarters in Plano !
Nice, I haven’t seen it yet but you should compare that new landcruiser to the outgoing 200 series landcruiser. Ramp tests have shown the 200 series still has the best suspension flex due to KDSS.
This Sequoia is way too low to the ground and the departure is mot good. This car is definitely not for off roading!!
Great job Ryan
It seems like the Lexus GX 550 (and maybe a 4runner in the Sr5 and Limited trim levels) with the third row will be a better buy for off-roaders and overlanders. No wonder why some people complained about the lack of a third row in the Overtrail version (since the other 2 trim levels have them available). as the third row gives the SUVs an almost evenly flat floor.
Best of the Best made my day great again :)
FYI - If I remember correctly, they factor in a 150 lb driver for payload figures @18:25. I could be thinking of just J2807, but I think payload factors that in already, so you only have to factor out the difference in weight for the driver.
Yeah I think you’re thinking of some towing figures, payload is just what the vehicle can accommodate up to its GVWR.
all the new tech on these Toyota's...off road tech..off road camera and what's engaged and the inclonometer...(also how's the tire PSI monitor? the old LC200 and LX570 was on a severe delay and not good for instant air down monitoring) was all implemented on the 2018 Jeep Wrangler JL and 2020 Jeep Gladiator. honestly Jeep did a fantastic job with that stuff. Toyota did like 75% of it and that's not enough
Not having an AWD option in the Sequoia is a big mistake and a dealbreaker
Y?
@@ChrisParaynoit would make more sense for being able to drive in snow or weather like that. Not really good to be driving full time in 4wd on the pavement….so awd or 4 auto would be nice
It does its a 50/50 split I have the tundra trd pro same thing it has awd option
I think the 2025 Toyota 4Runner will be on my first list
I like the incessant beeping from the Land Rover vs. the Sequoia…. Also if the TRD Pro’s Fox shocks are like others, do you have to rebuild them every 30-50k like the aftermarket versions?
the fact that you can't remove 3rd row out of Sequoia seems very silly.
As soon as you said do you have 80k to spend on a suv…..I was gone….lol
Yeah, the professor needs good visibility and offload capability!
The Amber doesn’t actually shine through anything better, it’s just the way the eyes perceive it and it is easier on the eyes. Fun fact.
First!! Headed up to Evans, wish you could tag along again!
I'd take the Land Cruiser.
900-something payload basically means 4x200lbs adults are dangerously close to maxing it out.
Sequoia seats can be removed
just have to use a few tools and make a platform.
PUT A BOXER ON THE LAND CRUISER TRANNY AND YOU HAVE A SUBARU FORESTER SETUP
Thanks you
I'd get the landcruiser.
I'm unsure who the target market is for the TRD Pro trim and its Fox shocks with external reservoirs. Who in their right mind would haul a** offroad in a 6000-lb family hauler (with meager approach, break-over, departure angles), plus family, plus cargo, where the TRD Pro setup will be utilized? A "lesser" 4x4 trim with the TRD Offroad pkg makes more sense if PRACTICAL offroad capability is desired. A Sequoia TRD Pro makes as much sense as a Sienna TRD Pro. It has "soccer dad trying too hard" written all over it (there's your target market I guess).
The way you used the drone to be second camera in the front was 🤌🤌🤌
Land Cruiser for me. Wish their base model gave you a bit more for the $. It’s as cheap on the inside as a base Nissan Frontier which is 30k less. No bueno. But overall I think it’s Toyota’s most attractive model at the moment. Everything else is too aggressive for me.
Biggest problem with lc250 u are restricted on back trunk because of batteries getting damaged from weight
Shit is so overpriced. Good review Ryan !
Personally I like the Land Cruiser I think the interior looks to have a better fit and finish. Most importantly I don't think you could have done the Alpine Lake trip with that Sequoia you probably could have but with major paint damage.
Yeah, it was too big and that wheel base would have caused major issues for some of the obstacles.
The new model to come Toyota Compact Cruiser to replace FJ Cruiser .
What wheel is that on the LC? I know you said it was a Toyota option wheel, but do you have any part # or any other info about it? Thanks!
I haven’t been able to find a part number for it. Even the sales slip from the dealer has part number “wheel”. 😂
Compare new LC to rivian r1s please.
The new 4Runner looks like Toyota asked Subaru to design a 4Runner.
hopefully, some folks make a comparo between the US Fullsize top variant offroad "Sequoia TRD Pro" vs Toyota's Top Notch Triple locker offroader "Land Cruiser 300 series GR SPORT"
We don’t get the 300 here.
I sure hope the build quality and fit and finish is better on the Landcruiser than it is on the current Sequoia, Tundra and Tacoma. I'm shocked at how cheaply cobbled together these new vehicles are.
LC & G550 Lexus👍
Can we please stop calling the Prado a cheaper Land Cruiser! It’s a Prado with a Land Cruiser sticker tag. Otherwise, great video
Large SUVs shouldnt be geared for offroading. Nobody is going to take that down a narrow trail with that low clearance and longer wheelbase. They should just try to make it the most comfortable, spacious, economical SUV possible
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I don't understand why people see 3 mpg improvement as a benefit on LC. If I am burning 23 mpg tbh, I'd rather burn 20 mpg and get the extra power. 8.2 sec is a joke in todays world. Yes, true, it is completely adequate in most cases but in highway driving where you need to take off fast, driving a slow car is a pain. In some cases, it is not even safe!
The mid-range (passing) speed range feels much faster than from a dead start. That electric+turbo hits its stride higher in the RPM range.
What size are the tires on the LC?
265/70/R18s. But they’re HDs so there’s more tread,slightly larger tire.
Btw, have you tried to contact Tesla for a Cybertruck test drive?
I would like to see your review of the Cybertruck and Rivian :)
Tesla doesn’t have a PR department and they don’t provide test vehicles.
Have you been getting the epa estimated 22-25mpg? I’m at over 2k miles in my LC on Orange County highways (more stop and go than most highways) and but still haven’t been above 19.4mpg
With the Nittos, I get roughly 19.8 on highway
Wonder if the new Honda Passport will be more boxy like the Land Cruiser and keep its V6
I think it’s all but a guarantee that the Passport will keep a V6 (since they developed the DOHC version just a couple years ago and only put it in the Pilot so far). Styling will likely follow the Pilot as well though of course with tweaks to potentially make it look a bit more masculine.
I will never own a hybrid or an electric vehicle. Great review though.
Land Cruiser for round town, local, day to day use.
Armada pro4x for family hauling do it all experience.
Sequoia ❤❤for me
What cover do you have in the back of the LC?
It’s a Toyota LC-branded gate cover. Works nice to prevent my tripods chewing up the rear gate.
TRD Pro? Where? You mean that red thing with the low hanging front bumper?!?
This video is ruined by the 20 minute Apple ad
Ryan...so much better than that last ford video.
Can you see what the real torque numbers are on the LC? I think those numbers are exaggerated by Toyota.
Off road? LC easily cause of its size and the full time AWD, The Sequoia with its size isn't really that hardcore offroad unless you mod the shit out of it. Its a luxury family car than can go off road.
5k more for the Sequoia, honestly as a Land Cruiser owner, it's kinda worth it.
not if your wife doesnt like a big old SUV, that she has to drive and park all the time
@@johnrose7212 who said I have a wife?
@@FullsendOffroadYou have a husband then?
@@edgaresquivel2147 No. Who said I'm married?